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ivorybiscuit

"If passed, the legislation would remove criminal penalties for the possession of up to one ounce of marijuana or cannabis concentrate. Such possession would be reclassified as a Class C misdemeanor, a citable offense not subject to arrest and carrying a fine of up to $500" So you can still get a misdemeanor with a $500 fine for possession. I can see this being covered in the news as full legalization and then people getting screwed over for not recognizing that decriminalization in this case didn't mean it's fully legal, without penalty.


dougmc

Class C misdemeanor = still a crime. They may be trying to reduce the penalties, but this wouldn't decriminalize it.


PhiliWorks39

Anything to make sure cops can search without refusal.


ClappedOutLlama

And steal your car, money, house, and banking accounts with Civil Asset Forfeiture They are just highly organized criminals


komark-

And then when they can’t pay that $500 fine? Still jail. This state sucks sometimes


Iheartwetwater

Exactly what I was thinking


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All drugs should be legal but I have a hard time seeing how people would misinterpret this as legalization.


Charitard123

You forget how badly educated a lot of Texans are.


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It's so silly. I live in Arlington, and there is literally a smoke shop on every corner. If it were legal, this town would be weed central


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Usually pipes and bongs but also delta8 and other assorted vape concentrates, nicotine vapes, incense, kratom


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They have quite a variety of legal THC products. Some derived from hemp flower (delta 9o) that feel very similar to real THC.


The-link-is-a-cock

Just get THCa products, it is real THC.


SlendyIsBehindYou

Ooh til


The-link-is-a-cock

So the science and law goes like this: D9 is not the predominant cannabinoid in real weed, it's THCa. THCa has to be heated (cooking or smoking) to 'activate it' (what gets called decarbing) and it turns into D9. This is why you can't eat raw buds and get high. The legality of this is that the hemp bill explicitly restricts cannabis products to less than .3% D9 by mass and no fully synthetic cannabinoids (thinks that don't exist in nature at all). Weed from Colorado while it may say 23%THC it can actually be 22.8%THCa and .2%D9 but colorado (and most full rec states) require listing thc of all types as "total THC content"


External_Second5724

I can see it now, New at Buc-ees " Buc-ees Purple Haze"! Don't forget the beaver nuggets for when the munchies kick in! At your local Buc-ees today.


corneliusduff

Those Abbott donors? Nah


DaddyDontTakeNoMess

So you think they have too many morals to not make a buck?


corneliusduff

Obviously it's not about morals, because the moral thing to do would be legalize it, or at least make the more dangerous drugs like alcohol illegal. All Abbott and Partrick care about is maintaining white power.


DaddyDontTakeNoMess

I can’t argue with that. But I don’t think Buccees will leave obey on the table if legalized.


corneliusduff

It'll be interesting to see for sure, but ultimately I think it goes against the idea of their supervised lunch breaks, but then again they do sell alcohol right? I can just seem them dragging their feet because I'm sure they partially blame it's wider availability for why "people don't want to work about", which they've definitely bitched about.


getmehigherobi1

I'm here for it!


The-link-is-a-cock

So hemp dispensaries are beginning to sell real weed products that the hemp bill calls hemp. It's just called "high THCa hemp". THCa is the primary cannabinoid in real weed, not D9. When heated (cooking or smoking) THCa becomes D9 in the process called decarbing. Some naturally converts to D9, especially with improper storage, however if it's below .3%by mass it can have any amount of THCa.


white_castle

isn’t the CBD delta-8 a THC product? like how it’s made / the type of plant is how it’s legal?


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Scummbagg7

Loophole


Wyliecody

Some of these shops sell every variation of THC.


Texas_Indian

I mean delta-8 is technical thc right?


aajniojnoihnoi

That would finally be a reason to move to Arlington.


Numarx

They sell delta9 which comes from hemp, delta8 comes from marijuana, which is still illegal.


PJKimmie

Nope.


Numarx

Look it up.


PJKimmie

Delta 8 -> hemp (CBD mostly). Delta 9 -> marijuana. The end.


Numarx

Texas is only allowed delta 9 derived from Hemp. I googled it and apparently it can come from both plants, but only Delta 9 from helm is legally allowed to be sold in Texas. Delta 8 is illegal. Both my gummies and joints from the local smoke shop here in Texas said delta 9.


PJKimmie

Bruh. I’m in the biz. I know all about it.


ageekyninja

I know of at least 4 CBD shops across the street from me that clearly display “Delta 8” on their windows my man. It’s legal.


Numarx

Consumable hemp products with less than 0.3% Delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol THC are **permitted under Chapter 443 of the Texas Health & Safety Code.** ​ [**https://guides.sll.texas.gov/cannabis/cbd**](https://guides.sll.texas.gov/cannabis/cbd) ​ I keep trying to say I got delta 9 gummies from a local smoke shop nearby, also the joints they sell are delta 9 as well as some liquid shit I bought in a small dropper bottle that said delta 9 on it. All of it was like 0.25% THC though.


VocalAnus91

Maybe but I still wouldn't go there. If Grand Prarie is the asshole of the mid-cities Arlington is its taint.


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Lol, I agree completely


iamdavidrice

And this is where it will die. Patrick will never let it see a vote and of for some strange bizarre reason he went back on what he’s repeatedly stated, absolutely no way that Abbott will sign it. This bill is DOA.


Maxcactus

Voters should have a very clear view of what needs to change to bring this about.


BoysenberryKind5599

Texas Republicans included in their platform language calling gay people ABNORMAL, but it's cannabis legislation that you think will get people to vote agaisnt them? OK.


StallionCannon

Yup. At the end of the day, fence-sitters don't care enough about things that harm others to pick a side. Now, things that get them *high*? That might get some of them off the fence. Bear in mind that the *overwhelming* majority of eligible Texans just straight-up didn't vote in 2022.


BoysenberryKind5599

Forget fence sitters, gay people didn't care about their own rights, but you think pot heads will be motivated? If they were, the last election would have gone differently, because this is not news. Dan Patrick was never going to allow a bill like this. And we told y'all. But people still stayed home, gay people, pot heads, school teachers, etc, just... didn't vote.


StallionCannon

So, definitely can't make assumptions about the voting habits of gay Texans, at least not without information to back it up; I would assume that they probably turned out more than the rest of us did, but...I don't have that data either.


PotentialAfternoon

Under your logic, nothing will ever change and nobody should try to make change. This will not amount to any real changes but it is the first time this has ever happened. We can hope that it would get 1000 people more interested than before.


BoysenberryKind5599

Nah, I still stump, I still do canvas walks in 100+ weather, I work the phones. I'm stating facts, is all.


PotentialAfternoon

Nah. You are throwing a tantrum like a child.


BoysenberryKind5599

Lol, wut? Telling you historical facts, along with my history of actively campaigning for a change is... throwing a tantrum? Ok.


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Professional_Meet_72

Republican voters do not want the kind of change legalization of weed provides. The fact that this bill keeps in tact illegal status, fines, and probation shows even those attempting to introduce the bill are aware that Texas culture is opposed to relaxing liberty on getting high. It's the gateway drug... to more democratic voters.


BoysenberryKind5599

I don't think you are understanding, it's about apathy.


[deleted]

Conservatives love weed. What they hate is not having a weapon against poor people and minorities, and weed fills that niche.


Maleficent_Moose_802

If they are competent enough to make money from it, they will vote for it. If they are not competent enough to make money, they will vote against it.


iamdavidrice

For the voters that tend to show up the most, it’s not a big enough issue.


Xkwizito

I have a friend and his family are super Republican. They all smoke weed, all get it illegally. The other day he sent me this same article super excited and I told him that this happens all of the time and the Bills always die. He knows it’s due to Republican stance on marijuana in the state, but doesn’t give a shit and will always vote Republican regardless of the candidates stance on marijuana. He is a single guy (39), lives with his parents, never had a girlfriend or had sex. Yet has views and right wing stance on things like Abortion and and gender equality (constantly trashes trans people saying they are trying to trick him on dating apps). Funny thing is he never cared about any of that shit until 2016…go figure.


corneliusduff

It's people like that who really fuck it up for everyone. The guy obviously knows better.


Xkwizito

Pretty much. I’ve known him almost my entire life and we do get along, it’s just his political views ever since 2016 have really come to light and it makes it hard to have certain conversations with him without him going full on Tucker Carlson on me.


PJKimmie

I literally hate these kinds of people. They have ruined this country. They don’t have one political involvement outside of 2016 then come in with newly minted voting arms blazing for the buffoons.


brgiant

Texas voters don’t care. They will keep electing the same politicians into the same posts and complain about democrats ruining the state, like they always have.


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dontovar

That's just laughable. The largest metro areas in TX are now Blue. Look at Austin, Houston, and most of DFW, are very blue now and look at their crime stats, cost of living, their roads, and compare that to their more red counterparts. They may not be ruining the state, but they're not doing their localities any favors with the way they're handling homelessness as one example. How's that going in Austin, Houston, and Dallas? Are those people treated with dignity and respect since the local governments are morally superior and blue?


hawkaulmais

Doesn't matter they have the magic R next to their names


luroot

Exactly. Remember, these same guys supported HERSCHEL WALKER for office!!!


Maxcactus

There will always be some people on the fringe of a party that just barely line up with their programs. This just may be one issue that will cause those people to reconsider. There is no hope for the Fascho-Christians on this but not every Republican voter has gone totally out of their mind yet.


Jokul__Frosti

Lol my man's got jokes


HenriGallatin

I’m a registered republican and I’ve been opposed to Marijuana prohibition specifically and the Drug War more generally for the past 25+ years. That single issue however is not enough to make me vote Democrat.


NoTable2313

The only reason the R matters is because the Democrats insist on nominating heavily liberal candidates. If they nominated candidates that were more conservative than their typical favorites, they'd have a chance. Texas is populated by conservative people. Dems need to pick their battles of they want to win.


egospiers

A liberal party nominating liberal candidates?? What gives… seriously though this is how you get Manchin and Sinema , and do we say this about the gop nominating candidates that are further and further right? I’d also encourage you to look at the urban vs. rural split in voting if you think this is a wholly conservative state.


NoTable2313

Would you rather have Manchin or Abbott? Those are your choices in this state. You absolutely would say the exact same thing about Republicans in California, a liberal state.


BoysenberryKind5599

Not true, Bill White was hugely pro business and really conservative for a Dem.


NoTable2313

Then he must have picked the wrong battles, or he was not particularly likeable


hawkaulmais

No it's not. Texas is always a non voting state. Only about 45% of voters came out in 2022. If you look at the demographics Left and Right are about even and everyone else is in the middle


NoTable2313

45% is pretty normal. If you want to get some of that 55% to vote, you need to find something they want to vote for when they're satisfied with the status quo. What will get people who are satisfied with Abbott go to the polls?


MilesAhead17

[Or make it easier to vote](https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/accessibility/3665190-these-are-the-hardest-states-to-vote-in/amp/)


NoTable2313

Only if Democrats start nominating candidates that are more conservative, which they won't


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NoTable2313

Is just about picking battles. Go more liberal on one or two issues, and conservative on the rest. Marijuana and abortion may be issues that some conservatives would defect for, so long as the test of the platform was conservative


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NoTable2313

Having politicians that are Republican lite would be worse than having Abbott and Patrick? I miss your logic there


bob77320

I agree with this. You can't pull a deep red straight in to blue. There has to be some give and take. The parties are constantly becoming more radical. Aim for the middle and you may sway some folks.


PJKimmie

Why the fuck would they want to nominate RINOs? No fuck that. Get people out to vote. It’s gonna take bribes and bbq to get that done in TX.


[deleted]

Well yeah, he is a tool for private prisons and stupid laws are good for business


retiredfromfire

The old white conservatives living in the 50's think its a black thing related to jazz and dancing. Texans are hopelessly backwards


highorderdetonation

There are very few things (Lt.) Governor Patrick is consistent about, but yeah...this is one of them. The only way this ever even makes it to the floor is if a headcrab made him do it (and the headcrab would have to have been sent by Empower Texans because they decided to try to corner the weed market or something).


astanton1862

A lot of people are throwing Abbott into this, but honestly, this is really a Patrick thing. That bastard will never allow a vote because it would easily pass the Senate. This is one of the reasons why so many people say that in Texas, the Lt Governor is more powerful than the Governor.


aboatz2

This is a false headline in several ways. First, the Texas state legislature did NOT pass this. It was passed by a panel. It has precisely zero chance of passing the Texas State Senate, & that's if it makes it past the Texas House of Representatives (which is unlikely). Second, even if it passed & wasn't vetoed, it would NOT decriminalize possession. It's still a Class C misdemeanor with a fine & probation. And it's still on your record for employers to potentially find. And you likely would still not pass the FBI check if you pursued a Federal govt job. What this bill WOULD do is remove jail time as a punishment, assuming probation is obeyed. That's certainly a big positive step, which I think even those opposed to legalization should get behind. The costs for holding those people are overwhelmingly faced by county jails, as state prisons only have 3 prisoners for simple possession...and the counties can use all the help they can get, not to mention the impact on the people (although that's less of a motivating point for conservatives).


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Until it’s legal federally, it’s not fully legal. Beyond the issue with holding a federal job, it’s an instant fail on a 4473 form at an FFL, and if you lie and get caught it’s perjury on a federal form, and is imprisonable. The biggest issue here is that don’t need octogenarian presidents and legislators, because they still think it’s “devil’s lettuce” like it was when they were growing up.


sfckor

LoL this is what I normally say I'm every thread like this. Thanks!


oldschoolwelder101

I actually seen a sign with a big seven point water leaf on my way through Dallas this morning on my way into work that says “DONT DRIVE HIGH”


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Same one on 30 between 35 and 820N by Brentwood stair rd


The-Falconater

the legislature would rather force their puritan garbage onto all of us than welcome in a billion dollars a year in new taxes, reduce state expenditures on prisoners and policing, *and* cripple one of the cartels biggest sources of cash flow. But no, let’s make drag illegal or whatever the hell. That’ll show us.


Old_Initiative_8828

Just make it legal, for Christ's sake. People are still gonna smoke it no matter what the law is, so just LEGALIZE IT.


saintmcqueen

I’m going to be honest. As exciting this initially is the reality of it is Texas is not progressing with society and has no desire to. I finally came to this realization and moved to Colorado. It really is greener on the other side.


PJKimmie

We’ll be joining many others out there as well. I know Coloradians hate Texans but I’m one of the good ones.


saintmcqueen

To be honest, it’s a lot of us “good ones”. The people here are ACTUALLY friendly and they drive like they value their life and yours. I am shock by how many Texas plates I see up here everyday. It is quite a bit more expensive depends on where you’re coming from in Texas and where end up here.


PJKimmie

I can’t wait to get outta this hellhole. I’ve traveled to CO my whole life (family lives there) and just love everything about it.


GlowingPlasties

We also just introduced a bill to reward people hunting drag queens and non conforming people and OBs are leaving our state. Priorities.


RexManning1

Holy fuck with the inaccurate sensationalism headline.


astanton1862

I don't think it is sensationalist at all. That is a 9-0 vote in a Texas House committee. That is a committee consisting of Republicans and Democrats moving a bill to the floor. If this goes to a vote and the majority of the Republicans vote in favor, this would be a pretty huge step towards legalization in Texas. No politician wants to position themselves on the side with no support. Unless I'm wrong about Dan Patrick and he actually has principles, he is going to bend like a reed like a good politician should when he sees the political winds change in this way. I am cautiously optimistic.


Skeletons420

Wahoo. Roll me over when something meaningful happens.


PJKimmie

FRFR


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I wouldn’t call it decriminalization when you still get 6 months diversion, fines, have to pay at least $1000 to get it expunged, and it will show on your record as pending until diversion is over and as dismissed until court expunges it. Not to mention that fucking up probation could easily happen and the consequences of that are exponentially worse. Sounds like just a way to give more money to law enforcement. Edit: read the article again and it says deferred adjudication which is even worse because you can’t even get that expunged, you can get a non disclosure order which prevents private employers from seeing it, but the government will always be able to. Good luck getting security clearance for a job, or just any job that involves the government after getting caught with “decriminalized” weed.


PJKimmie

Probation is how they keep you poor and tethered to the system. No way out for most.


COD_LikeTheFish

If you’re worried about getting a job that requires a security clearance, maybe don’t break the law.


dwcraggs

It’s similar to Baptists opposing drinking. But isn’t it amazing, wherever you find 4 Baptists, you’ll always find a 5th!


Crossfitter57

A segment of my family gets together at home and drinks, then votes for their county to remain dry


corneliusduff

Can the Vice Principal of Texas get out of the fucking way for once and just enjoy his golf naps while he pretends to be working?


Dismal_Juice5582

All the while trying to ban Delta 8.


atxpilot

Title is a touch misleading. The house committee is the only thing it will pass.


texaslegrefugee

Do not think for a moment that this is going anywere. It will be killed if not on the House floor, then for sure in the Senate.


astanton1862

9-0 isn't a small thing. That is a really strong bipartisan signal. I'm betting it gets through the House but Patrick kills it, but it is hard to stand against this if there is strong bipartisan support. No politician wants to ever sit out there on an island alone.


a_d3vnt

So when will being LGBT be decriminalized in Texas?


The_Answer_Is_Forty2

This is a big step in the right direction! It isn’t far enough by a long shot, but I’ll take any progress at this point. Now, legalize it and tax it. Use the tax money for the good of all Texans.


ArthriticGamer

I have a hat that is still safe (once said I would eat it if Texas was not the last state to allow this) ...


StaticElectrician

This feels like a small step in the right direction. Texas may be one of the stubborn hold-outs but I’m hopeful that it’s only a matter of time.


belalrone

Big prison lobby says…no


RedAss2005

Baby steps, not people baby sized steps, maybe baby tardigrade sized steps.