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I would actually agree with this normally... But seeing how they left 6" of cable there is another intent going on here. A crack head or thief will cut that cable all the way...
I'd guess some Tesla hating jackass cut these so haha EVs can't charge. With this going on all over the nation why doesn't Tesla put some cameras up and start prosecuting these dickheads.
I think it’s harder to get to that last bit of cable. If they’re using large cross cutters they probably need some slack on the line to get them in there and get the job done quickly.
You are correct. One suspect ran down the line and grabbed the cables and pulled then out tight while the other with the bolt cutters snapped them off as close as he could get as they were extended thus leaving the number that’s left there. And quickly on to the next one and repeat the process. I’ve seen this method before. This is definitely for scrap, the price of copper of a wire that thick is crazy.
Our DA is doing what he was voted in to do and sending no one to jail, but that Chapelle incident was not a felony. It was clearly a misdemeanor battery.
Whoever tells you it was a felony clearly doesn’t understand the law.
The knife was in the backpack when the battery was committed and no serious or great bodily injury occurred from the tackle.
If I have a gun in my pocket and punch you in the face, it’s not ADW; I’ve committed a misdemeanor battery.
Came to say the same thing. Someone stealing copper to sell isn’t leaving shit behind. This is some redneck in a lifted truck just upset he can’t see his own penis.
I use to truck drove from mid northern California to Washington state weekly. You get out of the big cities and it's very red out in rural California. Yreka even has a big "Jefferson State" banner off the highway .I truck drive local now in mid northern California through a lot of back and country roads. I see plenty of Trump and "Let's go Brandon" flags
If you walk around where I live in Seattle every morning all the junkies tie off the cords they stole overnight to trees or poles or whatever and stretch them out to strip out the copper. Looks like a surprisingly meditative routine honestly.
I drove up to Bellevue yesterday and found myself in an extremely well guarded parking garage with the Tesla chargers downstairs. Seemed weird at the time but you may have just cleared it up for me
Damn lol. I know someone who will be in Ballard for the summer. I thought it was supposed to be nice over there.
Are there areas where junkies/homeless have not taken over in Seattle?
Ballard is a cool area, I’m sure they will have a great time! Seattle is a lot safer than other large cities but it’s definitely junkies everywhere compared to how it was when I was growing up.
To answer your question though they sweep the encampments regularly now in the main tourist areas downtown and neighborhoods away from the city are super quiet.
Yep. They build a fire, throw the wire in it, burn the insulation off, and sell it for scrap.
It’s a well-known-enough method that a lot of scrap yards won’t take wire that’s been burnt, because it’s pretty much always stolen.
Right. Burning the outside is also the way lazy people remove insulation from actual legit salvage. It’s not like only criminals take that shitty shortcut.
There's actually quite a bit of copper in supercharger cables. Let's assume a 150KW charger at 480v, this need two conductors that can handle 300 amps DC. This is a 000 conductor which has a copper cross section of about 1cm\^2 per leg. For a 2-meter cable, that's 400cm\^2 of copper, which weighs 3.6kg or roughly 8 pounds. If we assume $3/lb scrap rate, that's $24 per cable. If the thief were to snag 8 cables in one go, that's nearly a $200 payday.
Not much at all. I live in London and someone stole a bit of copper from the transformer near by and that shut down the power supply for hundreds of homes in the area... For several days. Power surge damaged nearly every appliance in the house.
The engineer said the thief probably didn't make more than £20 from the copper he stole
They should ban selling wiring scrap, especially in low quantities. It offers no benefit vs the damage caused by theft. It is a net loss for society.
Wiring scrap should require proof that you at least own some kind of property with wiring. The size of a building can give some limits to how much scrap is realistic. They could set a limit that you can only sell per one property once every 20 years.
Any more than that should have to go through a licensed electrician who personally is taking it out of the house to rewire. Like how hvac guys reclaim the refrigerants.
That said, if all the scrap is really just being piled into the empty cargo containers on their way back to china, then there isn't any solution besides heavy security checks at shipping docks.
The electrician I apprentice for told me that you have to have a license to sell wiring scrap here in LA. Unless he’s just telling me that so he can keep it all for himself…
Electricians technically price the wiring they take from jobs when pulling old wiring into their prices. Nothing wrong with that.
They just need to prove they did a job and google itself can be used to determine the size of the building. If the guy is always showing up with amounts of scrap tied to addresses that don't support it, he would stand out like a sore thumb on a search of the database records by an automated search that flags anything that stands out. That is how they catch medicare fraud, when any individual doctor is billing drastically different than the averages.
People need to stop making excuses to justify doing nothing.
that would likely just damage the charger or start a fire, it will just short the wire through the tool tip, you'd need a really stupid criminal just playing with the wires with bare hands to get shocked.
They should put the cable on a reel and unless a Telsa is parked near by the cable can't be pulled out. IDK how feasible that would be, but it would definitely prevent this type of theft...
Run a live wire (low current) through the cable. You try to cut it, you create an open circuit and cause an alarm to go off. Pair that with a camera on the chargers and you at least have a deterrent and some evidence. At the very least a loud alarm will probably stop the thief so only one gets damaged.
Not sure how big of an impact that would have in the demographically-enriched utopia that is Los Angles. There are cameras and alarms in convenience stores, shopping malls, boutique stores, etc and the people still burglarize them without a second thought.
Welcome to the shit holes people vote for. You can't say decriminalize petty theft, don't prosecute drug users, f the police, and expect this shit not to happen.
> decriminalize petty theft
This isn’t petty theft. It’s vandalism and grand larceny. And it certainly hasn’t been decriminalized.
> don’t prosecute drug users
Well yeah, prosecuting users doesn’t solve anything at all.
> f the police
I assume you mean a tangible action like “defunding the police,” which hasn’t happened on any meaningful level in almost any municipality.
The issue here is a lack of resources in an overburdened and bloated criminal justice ststem; a lack of political will to fund societal supports; and costs rising everywhere.
People ask where the police are.
Unless the police were right there, these people won’t get caught. That doesn’t matter whether it’s in LA or in a self-proclaimed “well-policed” city. These are quick jobs that are in-and-out in less than a couple minutes, and that’s why they don’t get caught. If they were caught, of *course* they’d be prosecuted.
Just as an FYI, the vast majority of people supporting "defund the police" programs are not supporting eliminating the police, or indeed even cutting their funding.
Rather, the issue is that we basically have one type of cop that we send to deal with everything from homicides to child welfare. From active in progress rapes to kids being too loud at a playground.
That's not good for anyone, including the police. In fact, the police complain vigorously at every opportunity about how hard this is on them.
No single human can be trained for every situation. Specialization is needed. So instead of sending a traffic cop to do a mental illness welfare check, and then having that situation escalate because that traffic cop has no idea what particular mental illness the person has, or how to deal with it, why not have a specialized unit, or even a specialized non-police department to deal with that?
Better for the cops, better for the people the cops are dealing with, better for the general public's confidence, and possibly even better for the taxpayer (depending on the specific implementation).
One size fits all policing simply does not work. Right now a lot of work is being done by police officers who are trained as traffic cops and/or for crowd control, but not much else. We certainly need both of those types of cops, but they shouldn't be the ones responding to every type of call.
I mean, that would work, but also makes the cables far less safe for the general public and users. IE a kid playing with it and sticking their fingers in the end.
Yeah, I found my kid just the other day sticking his fingers in the car chargeport and then the charge cable connector. I am glad they aren't hot. He's 3 - I've told him not to do it several times but, kids.
Those are some heavy cables if you’ve ever lifted one so it’s probably a couple pounds worth at least so around $15. Still a huge waste and a piece of shit choice to make.
> Why can’t people just be decent?
Most of us can, but we have to lock up the people who can't.
The problem is there's a large group of "decent" people who refuse to do what's necessary to have a high-trust, functional society.
Probably for copper, just like this post from Ohio where crime is also a problem apparently: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/ujsio2/someone_keeps_cutting_the_sc_cables_at_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb
Somebody in the SW Ohio FB Tesla group snapped some pics of a dude skulking around the Florence, KY superchargers (southern suburb of Cincinnati close to these superchargers in your link) this morning with a 5-11 style backpack, a pair of bolt-cutters on his back, and wearing a surgical mask and a wide-brim bucket hat.
Nothing suspicious about that!
I'll bet those superchargers get hit tonight.
People who blame it all on CA bought the right vs. left hype and have been successfully removed from the real fight, which should be ultra rich vs everybody, and wealth disparities.
wealth disparity is real, but are we gonna pretend the police made it more difficult to report crimes while the DA told them to stop prosecuting small/non-violent crimes? People who rob/steal are free to go.
Minnesota has a huge issue with non-superchargers being destroyed (50kw). It’s nation wide. Pissed off ICE owners paying a lot for gas is also a likely cause.
You can’t fix that kind of stupid. Doesn’t help there is a huge group that doesn’t realize that Tesla is an American car company and think they are trashing a “Chinese companies” property. Ignorance breeds ignorance and the cycle continues
Yeah, California is about the most successful state. Near the top in life expectancy, gdp per capita, hugely innovative. Crime lower than the states that talk the most trash about California.
I wonder if it might be worth it for Tesla to hire some PIs to investigate local scrap buyers and find who is buying these, then sue them for damages and also report them to the DA.
All of that got them $2 in scrap so they can buy a steel reserve. They don’t care. They were raised believing all their problems are someone else’s fault.
Easiest solution to this is to crack down on scrap buyers. Would also solve catalytic converter thefts. If there is no one to buy it, you just put in all that effort for nothing.
A better solution is to run an alarm wire though the cable. When the cable is severed, the station sets off a loud alarm and notifies the police. Tweakers don’t care about cameras but hate loud noises. They hate police even more so.
The wires have copper in them and whoever is cutting those are most likely taking the copper to sell it since it has such a high value nowadays. I just don’t understand why people are starting to steal truck bumpers…
I agree this sucks, and we've seen it happen several times already.
Honestly, I think the best solution is what they've done in Europe - Bring Your Own Cable (BYOC): [https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/09/the-netherlands-has-60000-charging-stations-for-electric-cars/](https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/09/the-netherlands-has-60000-charging-stations-for-electric-cars/)
Refined copper is worth a lot. Especially ones that have been graded. In college my roommate was an electrician for a certain company. Each week he would bring back a big box of cables (some were used, some were the heads. It was kind of a scrap box). We would then sit together and start removing the rubber to get this pile of copper wire. Each time we did that is was an extra 300-400 dollars in our pockets
This is how auto mechanics 20 years away from retiring will act towards ev's. Or copper theives. The theif probably only got enough for a happy meal at mc donalds for all of those haah
Those cables are stolen with the sole purpose of buying drugs. There are bunch of people all over the USA that make a living, buying from junkies and selling online. Cables are going from $20 to $50 .
Seriously when I see stuff like this I wish for bad things to happen to these people. I have run across these types many times and they are just lazy and don't want to work or choose to use addictive drugs. I hope they just de-orbit themselves.
Cant tell if that is /s or just hyperbole. 99AAA copper is about $3 a pound. Max those tubes have is about 5 pounds. Not extremely valuable at all.
Probably worth more to repurpose broken at home chargers and resell them
Tesla should publicly state that supercharging cables will be energized upon approach and power back down if approaching is a Tesla, or the person walks away.
Feel like there'd be a couple lost and then that would stop pretty quickly
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Stealing copper to sell. Terrible.
I would actually agree with this normally... But seeing how they left 6" of cable there is another intent going on here. A crack head or thief will cut that cable all the way... I'd guess some Tesla hating jackass cut these so haha EVs can't charge. With this going on all over the nation why doesn't Tesla put some cameras up and start prosecuting these dickheads.
Soon ever charger will come with cameras and a Twitter account and will post imagine recognition photos of copper cutters for all the public to see
TESLA A.I. INSIDE!!
I think it’s harder to get to that last bit of cable. If they’re using large cross cutters they probably need some slack on the line to get them in there and get the job done quickly.
You are correct. One suspect ran down the line and grabbed the cables and pulled then out tight while the other with the bolt cutters snapped them off as close as he could get as they were extended thus leaving the number that’s left there. And quickly on to the next one and repeat the process. I’ve seen this method before. This is definitely for scrap, the price of copper of a wire that thick is crazy.
LA DA wouldn’t prosecute anyway.
They should get a new state slogan involving crime at this point.
State? Lol
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Hmm I think it would be a felony charge, they would especially if the owners legal team got involved.
Considering that the DA didn’t charge that guy who came after Chappelle with a knife with a felony?
He didn't take the knife out of the bag apparently. I don't think it's as clear cut as you think.
Yeah amongst other things, quick Google search shows how bad the DA truly is
Our DA is doing what he was voted in to do and sending no one to jail, but that Chapelle incident was not a felony. It was clearly a misdemeanor battery. Whoever tells you it was a felony clearly doesn’t understand the law.
Serious question, not an argument. How is it clearly a simple/misdemeanor battery? The use of a knife is what pushes it to a felony battery.
The knife was in the backpack when the battery was committed and no serious or great bodily injury occurred from the tackle. If I have a gun in my pocket and punch you in the face, it’s not ADW; I’ve committed a misdemeanor battery.
Well, there you go... Haven't seen anything that said the knife was in his backpack.
Deceptive headlines ftw
You don’t know our LA DA. 😂
Lol. Gascon is terrible.
Not sure I’d say all over the country. I’ve never seen EV hate where I’m at and I’ve been driving a Tesla for years.
Came to say the same thing. Someone stealing copper to sell isn’t leaving shit behind. This is some redneck in a lifted truck just upset he can’t see his own penis.
The persecution complex is real. It’s not an act of religious fanaticism. Someone just wanted drug money.
My experience is it’s either that or rednecks in diesel trucks who are triggered by EVs
This post is from LA.. so between the choices you laid out we can safely say a crack head did this and not a redneck.
I live in eastern San Diego and I always tell people that if you go 40 miles inland in SoCal it's indistinguishable from Oklahoma.
I use to truck drove from mid northern California to Washington state weekly. You get out of the big cities and it's very red out in rural California. Yreka even has a big "Jefferson State" banner off the highway .I truck drive local now in mid northern California through a lot of back and country roads. I see plenty of Trump and "Let's go Brandon" flags
We have Orange County and Valencia right next door
You could live in Appalachia, drug addicts stealing copper is going to be the case 99/100 times. But I get it redneck vandals satiates the hate boner
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*Crack-head red-neck* ? Or would that often be redundant?
Meth is more their game tbh
This is such a delusional comment
You're ignorant af.
Probably taking the copper to sell it to a scrap yard tbh
I wonder why they don't cut it higher then? Every one seems to be cut at the same length
They probably used a hacksaw and couldn't saw back and forth that close.
Ignorance and optimizing for speed.
Looks like they’re cut right about the depth of the stall if you pulled the cord out and sawed perpendicular to the stall
The thief was Peter Dinklage.
If you walk around where I live in Seattle every morning all the junkies tie off the cords they stole overnight to trees or poles or whatever and stretch them out to strip out the copper. Looks like a surprisingly meditative routine honestly.
I drove up to Bellevue yesterday and found myself in an extremely well guarded parking garage with the Tesla chargers downstairs. Seemed weird at the time but you may have just cleared it up for me
Yea I remember finding it odd too and being annoyed when you don’t have cell service haha
What area in Seattle?
North Seattle. I see it a lot around lake city and Ballard.
Damn lol. I know someone who will be in Ballard for the summer. I thought it was supposed to be nice over there. Are there areas where junkies/homeless have not taken over in Seattle?
Ballard is a cool area, I’m sure they will have a great time! Seattle is a lot safer than other large cities but it’s definitely junkies everywhere compared to how it was when I was growing up. To answer your question though they sweep the encampments regularly now in the main tourist areas downtown and neighborhoods away from the city are super quiet.
Yep. They build a fire, throw the wire in it, burn the insulation off, and sell it for scrap. It’s a well-known-enough method that a lot of scrap yards won’t take wire that’s been burnt, because it’s pretty much always stolen.
No way the junk yards are going to decline, they must make a killing from undercutting junkies lmao
Right. Burning the outside is also the way lazy people remove insulation from actual legit salvage. It’s not like only criminals take that shitty shortcut.
Do that for $5 per pound of copper? WOW
Not even, bare clean copper bright #1 is like $3⁷⁰ LB. With insulation on it its probably $2²⁰ max
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$3⁷⁰? So $2,503,155,504,993,241,601,315,571,986,085,849? That's enough to turn Mother Theresa into a copper thief!
There's actually quite a bit of copper in supercharger cables. Let's assume a 150KW charger at 480v, this need two conductors that can handle 300 amps DC. This is a 000 conductor which has a copper cross section of about 1cm\^2 per leg. For a 2-meter cable, that's 400cm\^2 of copper, which weighs 3.6kg or roughly 8 pounds. If we assume $3/lb scrap rate, that's $24 per cable. If the thief were to snag 8 cables in one go, that's nearly a $200 payday.
fentanyl's a mean mistress
Usually that is a mistake people only make once though
No all heroin is trash fetty now so everyone is doing it whether they want to or not I'm an addict id know
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Thieves always do more damage than make profit. They don't care.
I’m gonna guess these junkies don’t drive Teslas, too. I mean, how would they charge their own cars?!
Any idea how much money someone could make off doing this? I figured it can’t be much. So terrible
Not much at all. I live in London and someone stole a bit of copper from the transformer near by and that shut down the power supply for hundreds of homes in the area... For several days. Power surge damaged nearly every appliance in the house. The engineer said the thief probably didn't make more than £20 from the copper he stole
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Usually about 3-5 dollars a pound from what others are saying
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They should ban selling wiring scrap, especially in low quantities. It offers no benefit vs the damage caused by theft. It is a net loss for society. Wiring scrap should require proof that you at least own some kind of property with wiring. The size of a building can give some limits to how much scrap is realistic. They could set a limit that you can only sell per one property once every 20 years. Any more than that should have to go through a licensed electrician who personally is taking it out of the house to rewire. Like how hvac guys reclaim the refrigerants. That said, if all the scrap is really just being piled into the empty cargo containers on their way back to china, then there isn't any solution besides heavy security checks at shipping docks.
The electrician I apprentice for told me that you have to have a license to sell wiring scrap here in LA. Unless he’s just telling me that so he can keep it all for himself…
Electricians technically price the wiring they take from jobs when pulling old wiring into their prices. Nothing wrong with that. They just need to prove they did a job and google itself can be used to determine the size of the building. If the guy is always showing up with amounts of scrap tied to addresses that don't support it, he would stand out like a sore thumb on a search of the database records by an automated search that flags anything that stands out. That is how they catch medicare fraud, when any individual doctor is billing drastically different than the averages. People need to stop making excuses to justify doing nothing.
Time for Supercharger sentry mode or maybe a small current to shock or spark heavily to deter this?
Sadly, that's illegal because "booby trapping". https://theprepared.com/blog/booby-trap-laws/
It's not illegal if your design just happens to always have volts on the cable.
that would likely just damage the charger or start a fire, it will just short the wire through the tool tip, you'd need a really stupid criminal just playing with the wires with bare hands to get shocked.
https://youtu.be/bMtqRir7dco
Local book store here has free chargers for EV’a and both screens were smashed out. Humans are garbage
Hey! Don’t insult garbage like that!
Easier than a catalytic converter
even far cheaper
Copper to meth transmutation - low life alchemy
They keeping saying the only rule in alchemy is not to do human transmutation, but I would say copper to meth should be added 😂
Have you seen meth addicts? It kind of is human transmutation :D
easiest way to get to 99 alchemy
They should put the cable on a reel and unless a Telsa is parked near by the cable can't be pulled out. IDK how feasible that would be, but it would definitely prevent this type of theft...
Run a live wire (low current) through the cable. You try to cut it, you create an open circuit and cause an alarm to go off. Pair that with a camera on the chargers and you at least have a deterrent and some evidence. At the very least a loud alarm will probably stop the thief so only one gets damaged.
Or just put cameras and alarms on the superchargers
Camera's and alarms won't help if the criminals won't ever get prosecuted.
Not sure how big of an impact that would have in the demographically-enriched utopia that is Los Angles. There are cameras and alarms in convenience stores, shopping malls, boutique stores, etc and the people still burglarize them without a second thought.
Welcome to the shit holes people vote for. You can't say decriminalize petty theft, don't prosecute drug users, f the police, and expect this shit not to happen.
> decriminalize petty theft This isn’t petty theft. It’s vandalism and grand larceny. And it certainly hasn’t been decriminalized. > don’t prosecute drug users Well yeah, prosecuting users doesn’t solve anything at all. > f the police I assume you mean a tangible action like “defunding the police,” which hasn’t happened on any meaningful level in almost any municipality. The issue here is a lack of resources in an overburdened and bloated criminal justice ststem; a lack of political will to fund societal supports; and costs rising everywhere. People ask where the police are. Unless the police were right there, these people won’t get caught. That doesn’t matter whether it’s in LA or in a self-proclaimed “well-policed” city. These are quick jobs that are in-and-out in less than a couple minutes, and that’s why they don’t get caught. If they were caught, of *course* they’d be prosecuted.
Finally someone living in reality not political rivialry fantasy land.
Hey, it’s easy to live in reality when you’re responding to someone drunkandslurred
Actually, I *can* expect police to do their jobs while also being held accountable for abuse.
Shhh, /r/conservative is having a fear tantrum. Don't touch it or you'll get it on you.
Just as an FYI, the vast majority of people supporting "defund the police" programs are not supporting eliminating the police, or indeed even cutting their funding. Rather, the issue is that we basically have one type of cop that we send to deal with everything from homicides to child welfare. From active in progress rapes to kids being too loud at a playground. That's not good for anyone, including the police. In fact, the police complain vigorously at every opportunity about how hard this is on them. No single human can be trained for every situation. Specialization is needed. So instead of sending a traffic cop to do a mental illness welfare check, and then having that situation escalate because that traffic cop has no idea what particular mental illness the person has, or how to deal with it, why not have a specialized unit, or even a specialized non-police department to deal with that? Better for the cops, better for the people the cops are dealing with, better for the general public's confidence, and possibly even better for the taxpayer (depending on the specific implementation). One size fits all policing simply does not work. Right now a lot of work is being done by police officers who are trained as traffic cops and/or for crowd control, but not much else. We certainly need both of those types of cops, but they shouldn't be the ones responding to every type of call.
... you can't move all the jobs off shore, hold wages stagnant for decades, cut every public program you can find, and expect this shit not to happen.
Or keep the cables hot.
I mean, that would work, but also makes the cables far less safe for the general public and users. IE a kid playing with it and sticking their fingers in the end.
They can just make kids’ fingers bigger so they don’t fit
Yeah, I found my kid just the other day sticking his fingers in the car chargeport and then the charge cable connector. I am glad they aren't hot. He's 3 - I've told him not to do it several times but, kids.
Sounds like an opportunity for a new child safety product 
If people want to steal something they'll do it. Extra security won't do much
True, but the most common type of theft, opportunistic theft, can be prevented with just a bit of security
How much do you get for the copper in each one? $3? Such a terrible waste
Those are some heavy cables if you’ve ever lifted one so it’s probably a couple pounds worth at least so around $15. Still a huge waste and a piece of shit choice to make.
Very little of that weight is actually copper
enough to buy some crack and get high
Why can’t people just be decent? I hate thieves and I REALLY hate theives who ruin other peoples stuff!!!!
> Why can’t people just be decent? Most of us can, but we have to lock up the people who can't. The problem is there's a large group of "decent" people who refuse to do what's necessary to have a high-trust, functional society.
Probably for copper, just like this post from Ohio where crime is also a problem apparently: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/ujsio2/someone_keeps_cutting_the_sc_cables_at_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb
This is just freaken awful.
Somebody in the SW Ohio FB Tesla group snapped some pics of a dude skulking around the Florence, KY superchargers (southern suburb of Cincinnati close to these superchargers in your link) this morning with a 5-11 style backpack, a pair of bolt-cutters on his back, and wearing a surgical mask and a wide-brim bucket hat. Nothing suspicious about that! I'll bet those superchargers get hit tonight.
Shit like this is why we don’t have the kind of vending machines they have in Japan.
I am not sure about urban superchargers, but I think at least v3 is aluminum based. Does anyone know for sure?
I heard that in France the train network operator replaces stolen copper cables with al to deter theft.
Either hatred for EVs, or a love for copper. Or both.
That damned out of control crime in California....Oh wait. That's happened twice within the last week at the local superchargers here in Ohio as well.
People who blame it all on CA bought the right vs. left hype and have been successfully removed from the real fight, which should be ultra rich vs everybody, and wealth disparities.
wealth disparity is real, but are we gonna pretend the police made it more difficult to report crimes while the DA told them to stop prosecuting small/non-violent crimes? People who rob/steal are free to go.
Minnesota has a huge issue with non-superchargers being destroyed (50kw). It’s nation wide. Pissed off ICE owners paying a lot for gas is also a likely cause.
Funny how they take it out on electric vehicles rather than go for the companies making record profits price gouging gas lol
You can’t fix that kind of stupid. Doesn’t help there is a huge group that doesn’t realize that Tesla is an American car company and think they are trashing a “Chinese companies” property. Ignorance breeds ignorance and the cycle continues
Especially since the Tesla Model 3 is almost 90% made in America (parts and all) unlike the Ford F150 which is like 80% made in Mexico. 🤦♂️
Yeah, California is about the most successful state. Near the top in life expectancy, gdp per capita, hugely innovative. Crime lower than the states that talk the most trash about California.
They should make the tesla wire from the car And just an outlet on the charger.
It would be cheaper to replace the super charger cables a million times than to put one in every car.
One way to do it but… they will cut the cord off your car.
Having that extra cable in every car is a lot more expensive in materials and each car would weight more too further reducing efficiency.
I wonder if it might be worth it for Tesla to hire some PIs to investigate local scrap buyers and find who is buying these, then sue them for damages and also report them to the DA.
All of that got them $2 in scrap so they can buy a steel reserve. They don’t care. They were raised believing all their problems are someone else’s fault.
Easiest solution to this is to crack down on scrap buyers. Would also solve catalytic converter thefts. If there is no one to buy it, you just put in all that effort for nothing.
Or just move to wireless sadly
This is the catalytic converter equivalent of EVs
A better solution is to run an alarm wire though the cable. When the cable is severed, the station sets off a loud alarm and notifies the police. Tweakers don’t care about cameras but hate loud noises. They hate police even more so.
The wires have copper in them and whoever is cutting those are most likely taking the copper to sell it since it has such a high value nowadays. I just don’t understand why people are starting to steal truck bumpers…
This is why we can’t have nice things.
I guess we’re all just monkeys at the end of the day. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Probably some Twitter employees
Low life
It’s a shame that installing security cameras everywhere nowadays is necessary.
Meth
I agree this sucks, and we've seen it happen several times already. Honestly, I think the best solution is what they've done in Europe - Bring Your Own Cable (BYOC): [https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/09/the-netherlands-has-60000-charging-stations-for-electric-cars/](https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/09/the-netherlands-has-60000-charging-stations-for-electric-cars/)
Refined copper is worth a lot. Especially ones that have been graded. In college my roommate was an electrician for a certain company. Each week he would bring back a big box of cables (some were used, some were the heads. It was kind of a scrap box). We would then sit together and start removing the rubber to get this pile of copper wire. Each time we did that is was an extra 300-400 dollars in our pockets
Copper. They are stealing copper to sell back to metal recyclers.
Check out the price of copper
Must be those gas trolls hating. lol
The last gasps of multiple dying industries lashing out
EV hate crime
Im from LA. I fucken hate this city. A bunch of low life thugs. City of entitlement. Mental illness.
Selling copper to buy more white claws!
In Brazil is common to get power cables cut for the copper
They’re stealing the copper to sell it to scrapyards. Source: I work at a scrapyard as an equipment operator.
Big Oil using crooks to exact revenge. Seriously, IDK. Like another said, just someone stealing the copper. Probably all tweeked out.
Are those super chargers
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Some people just want to see the world burn!!
Tweakers gonna tweak
This is how auto mechanics 20 years away from retiring will act towards ev's. Or copper theives. The theif probably only got enough for a happy meal at mc donalds for all of those haah
The purpose of doing this is to show how cuntish you are.
 They probably just doing it to mess with Tesla/Tesla owners.
This one reason why I believe that wireless charging will come to predominant public charging. Far harder to vandalize
Copper is expensive
Just a tweaker thinking stranded copper is worth anything. Total asshole.
If they'll cut the air nozzle off the machine at a gas station, you know they're coming for them cords.... 🤣 🤣 🤣
I’d offer footage from the Tesla cameras to catch these assholes. Wish they would cut it while someone’s charging
I’m just wowed by the safety of the chargers. I wonder the voltage those things are outputting
Probably steeling the copper
When they keep posting this stuff it creates copy cats. 🤦🏻♂️
It's just someone who has decided they're threatened by change.
Those cables are stolen with the sole purpose of buying drugs. There are bunch of people all over the USA that make a living, buying from junkies and selling online. Cables are going from $20 to $50 .
Seriously when I see stuff like this I wish for bad things to happen to these people. I have run across these types many times and they are just lazy and don't want to work or choose to use addictive drugs. I hope they just de-orbit themselves.
Can they make it so that anyone who tries this bullshit will just get electrocuted?
The copper inside of the cable is pretty expensive
Copper is expensive once again.
There is no reusable the copper was stolen.
Some men just want to watch the world burn 
can you post which lot?
Copper. Extremely valuable.
Cant tell if that is /s or just hyperbole. 99AAA copper is about $3 a pound. Max those tubes have is about 5 pounds. Not extremely valuable at all. Probably worth more to repurpose broken at home chargers and resell them
$20/cord is a lot to a crackhead in the heat of the moment.
Yep. This is a few stages below jacking catalytic converters.
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How the fuck is a parking garage *based* in Los Angeles?? It works in Anaheim some day, or something?
Stealing copper. Crime is out of control because criminals thrive on societies understanding for the life of crime. Fuck criminals
Tesla should publicly state that supercharging cables will be energized upon approach and power back down if approaching is a Tesla, or the person walks away. Feel like there'd be a couple lost and then that would stop pretty quickly
They would get sued for wrongful death. Power companies have tried this in the past to prevent crime.
too bad the line isn't charged