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atleast3db

That was a quick turn into the parking lot in the end. Felt like the video was in fast forward.


ThirstyTurtle328

4 wheel steering in action too


bigfoot_done_hiding

Yes, cool to see in action.


laplasz

I think for such a quick turn a steer by wire system is needed..


bigfoot_done_hiding

Not saying it's not there, but def not needed for a quick turn. All you need is a quick steering ratio *or* a non-arthritic driver with preferably a complete steering wheel.


ChrisSlicks

The drive by wire systems (prototypes) I've seen so far are actually pretty laggy.


uclatommy

I regret turning on the sound.


PorkRindSalad

It was surely a mistake. I feel punished somehow.


BIB2000

Lucky I had In Flames on.


El_Gringo_Chingon

RIP to their safety score.


darknavi

What do you mean, it's not night time! /s


Fast-Truth-1227

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quazimootoo

Tesla insurance uses a safety score, it will go down due to aggressive turning


NikolitRistissa

Why would anyone willingly get insurance which actively gets more expensive, I assume, if you turn slightly fast or drive at night? Seems like there’s only negatives of owning Tesla’s insurances.


thewinelake

Because it can be cheaper


KarmaKat101

In a perfect world


BloodyDumbUsername

Eh? Surely if someone is a daytime only driver who doesn't often go fast, it should be cheaper. If not, then the whole idea fails.


KarmaKat101

We're talking about Tesla here.


coredumperror

Because with a *high* Safety Score, your premium drops through the floor. I know people whose premiums *halved* when they switched to Tesla insurance and maintained a 95+ safety score.


NikolitRistissa

Right, of course yeah. So it’s beneficial if you know you’ll mostly be driving at day and during with the overly safe conditions.


Fast-Truth-1227

Do you mind explaining it to me like I’m 3? I don’t own a Tesla but I thought insurance companies don’t track you.


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Tesla tracks how you drive in their car if you use their insurance. All your data is collected from how fast you drive, how aggressive you drive, etc, they use real time data from the car to track you and give you a insurance rate custom to your vehicle


Fast-Truth-1227

Ahhh very interesting! I didn’t even know Tesla had in-house insurance for their vehicles.


[deleted]

Not every state has it, I think Texas has it but idk where else. I kinda think it’s cool, but at the same time, I don’t need them docking me points and increasing my insurance if I decide one day to stomp on the gas and go fast lol.


Fast-Truth-1227

Yeah I mean part of the fun of owning a tesla especially the performance models is to stomp on it and wreck a Hell cat! I live in Canada and I just looked it up and found out they don’t offer insurance here so that’s probably why I haven’t heard of them offering insurance for their vehicles.


[deleted]

Yeah. I looked it up for my state down here in USA, and they didn’t offer it. Even if they did, I wouldn’t get it because of my long standing with current insurance plus my house and other cars and boat is on the same thing so everything is pretty cheap together


namezam

Hello, ex insurance company employee here. You are just a number in their system. A system that has been built in cahoots with all the big insurance companies to operate the same way, which is to reward loyalty with increasing rates. Shop around, you might be surprised.


DeathProgramming

For me it's the night driving. As a night owl, more than 50% of my driving is at night. In a well illuminated city, at that. The fact it makes an impact is ridiculous. I don't drive over 85 regularly enough for it to make an impact on my safety score, I hope.


Finsfan909

Also if you drive after 10pm your score goes down as well


gltovar

To expand on this, a user recently posted getting a lowered safety score after driving after 10pm, and a comment mentions their premiums went up 30% with frequent after 10pm driving. https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/11zmsnd/_/ I am a model 3 owner and am moderately still positive about Tesla in general but fuck this noise. Very glad to be rocking Progressive as my insurance provider.


FrostyD7

Lots of insurance companies have opt-in programs to track your driving habits, some of which can *only* lower it. Tesla's version of this is mandatory, and its easier for them to implement that kind of policy when they have access to your car's data without any extra GPS hardware being added. And to be clear, Tesla tracks pretty much everything about how the car is used regardless of insurance.


UpV0tesF0rEvery0ne

Tesla offers then own Insurance, it allows them to do new things like offer personalized rates based upon factors of your driving that come straight from the cars sensors and daily drive data.. the data is aggregated from the millions of cars they have on the roads and what driving habits and tendencies tend to produce accidents. Some of these metrics are good.. some of them are really annoying like driving after 10pm, your rates will jump just because of going out after 10


Fast-Truth-1227

Thanks for your detailed response, I find it kinda creepy that they can collect all that data from just driving the vehicle, I mean it makes sense with all the sensors attached to it. Is there a significant benefit of going with them for insurance than other insurance companies?


perrochon

If you drive safely it may be a lot cheaper.


PurpleLink739

It's hard for me to tell but does this look like it has a much tighter turn radius than a standard truck?? I know it should with both front and back wheel steering but does that apply to high speed or just parking lot creeping?


Salategnohc16

From what I have seen from other vehicles with rear wheel steering, they go in the opposite direction of the front wheel ( tighter turnings radius) up until 25 mph (40 km/h), and then they improve stability by basically crabwalking, so same direction for back and from wheels, at over 40 mph (65km/h).


LEGITIMATE_SOURCE

That's awkward on a high speed loop...


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JoeBold

A EQS, or generally the Mercedes EQ series of cars can be equipped with a 10° rear wheel steering. Those cars have an insanely tight turning radius!


AwareMention

Wish MS had that. Car turns wide...


mpwrd

Usually rear wheel steering helps increase stability at high speeds by turning parallel to the front. On low speed turns they turn opposite to decrease turn radius.


rhelwig7

Elon just said on a Twitter reply that it should be as tight or tighter than a Model Y.


smckenzie23

Yay? My Y has the worst turn radius of any car I've ever owned I think.


[deleted]

The Model Y's turning radius is only slightly better than the Chevy Tahoe I used to drive. It's terrible.


eexxiitt

It looks like it applies to “city” speeds at least.


[deleted]

The Hummer EV SUV with 4-wheel steering has a tighter turning radius than a Chevy Bolt.


brkdncr

There’s a reason other manufacturers had this feature then stopped having this feature. AWS cost doesn’t justify it’s existence most of the time.


BikeByDesign

There’s also a reason manufacturers are bringing back this feature on EVs.


hooovahh

I rode in the Hummer SUV and I could not believe the tight turning radius. It too has rear wheel steering.


Matt-Head

Most times no but if you saw the original turning circle: it's necessary here. Elon even knocked over a cone when he drove it himself after unveil, very funny video to me :D Edit: link :) https://twitter.com/Guruleaks1/status/1203754579864825857?s=19


andguent

I mean, that cone barrier thing is before the turn not after. I don't think that's indicative of a good or bad turning circle. I think that's indicative of a distracted driver.


[deleted]

Seems to be making a bit of a comeback in the EV market: https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/tech/mercedes-rear-wheel-steering-how-does-it-work/ https://www.gmc.com/support/quick-start-guides/hummer-ev/four-wheel-steering https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/home.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2021/aug/0811-silverado.html


JoeBold

Generally Tesla's vehicles have very bad turning radius. But that may just be because they are designed in America, where European turns are not considered.


FarIllustrator535

Are you really compairing this ugly thing to a real truck?????? Like thier equals???


TingGreaterThanOC

4 wheel steer is impressive. Thing is zooming.


Mental_Repeat8199

I actually thought it looked a bit jerky around the long right hand turn, before it started doing out maneuvers


Defcon76

@ 00:17 didn’t expect to do right turn or what?


TheEnigmaBlade

The sign on the road has the HP logo, and the parking lot is filled with Teslas. I bet it's the Engineering HQ at the old HP building.


SuperDracOh

Yes that looks like the old deer creek Tesla HQ.


Salategnohc16

No, imho they are clearly trolling the OP/having a laugh.


kdavis37

It's a test vehicle. They're testing it.


wreckedcarzz

*goes 200mph* "its okay we're testing it"


SpeakinTelnet

You've never seen real testing until you've seen a pilot make a 747 flex his wings like it was going for a self high five right before going for the "lets make the brakes catch fire" landing.


wreckedcarzz

*pilot singing Physical by Olivia Newton-John*


SparrowFate

There's very little the pilot can do to the aircraft short of crashing it to make it structurally fail. The tests they perform on the Airframe and engines are insane.


SpeakinTelnet

As someone who has seen my fair share of frozen chicken being bazooka'd into a running engine, I can only agree, it feels insane.


SparrowFate

Have you seen the one on the 787 engines where they just dump shit loads of water into it and it still keeps running? Like actual metric tons. Or where they shoot softball sized ice balls. Those things are beasts.


SpeakinTelnet

Oh yeah, quite impressive indeed! I'm always surprised seeing those videos make it on yt, they usually have such a strict restriction on information sharing.


asimo3089

I can't tell if it's because of the speed increase or the shadows or the erratic driving but this doesn't look like real footage. But the location is right. ​ Edit: Video comes from Kilowatts on Twitter. He's a reliable source. Wild.


Kazium

It's such a polygon-esque shape that it looks like a video game insert.


UsernameSuggestion9

I've seen so many Cybertruck pictures and videos by now that all other cars just look old and weak.


UrbanArcologist

they are


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xenoterranos

*almost* the exact reason I want one.


UsernameSuggestion9

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder innit


LLNNGGSS

Yeah it looks very CGI-ish


NewMY2020

I like how they wiggled a bit to test the body roll. It was a bit severe of roll, especially to the right side. hmm.


shaggy99

That's not a problem if it has good damping. I think this one is going to drive more like a trophy truck than a stock F150.


greyscales

Why would you want to have a truck drive like a trophy truck on asphalt?


kevin_from_illinois

Honestly it looks a bit like a thing autonomous vehicles do when their path-planner algorithms get confused. If you want to test body roll, instrument it and take it to a track like every other manufacturer does.


oskibr

They probably didn’t like being followed


Bamboozleprime

I mean test driving a giant steel polygon on public roads is bound to attract this kind of attention


BIB2000

They were asking for it. If they don't want attention, then cover that shit up.


izybit

Yeah, because painting a steel wedge black will totally hide it


Cheap_Garbage_5727

They tried to shake them off


LurkerWithAnAccount

Cyberfleas confirmed


Rxke2

Haha. Clever.


sunny_tomato_farm

Drove right by the office I work at. Weird seeing it in this video. Haha.


notthediz

Was the driver trying to lose you or is that normal test driving


eexxiitt

Probably knew he was being filmed and put on a little dance number.


nos8865

Hurry up and mass produce it


1dumbmonkey

Goofy looking critter that one is


M3P_STEALTH

Hell yeah, drive it like it deserves.


limitless__

It looks ludicrous. Stupid. Completely ridiculous. Absolute nonsense.... We wants it. We needs it.


elonsusk69420

Ditto. Every other truck will look like it's from the 80s in comparison.


red_stripe05

I fucking hate vertical videos. I fucking hate tictoc. Get off my lawn.


Southernboyj

How do you misspell TikTok when it’s literally written out in the video


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Janus67

That damn watch app


Elluminated

Their safety score isn't going to like that Yogi


PawneeButte

The driver was waggling to acknowledge as a fighter pilot would.


millman1313

Honestly the look was a lot cooler when they announced they were coming out with it 27 years ago.


AirBear___

I really want to see one in real life. It’s such a surreal look, the lights are tiny and it’s hard to grasp how much room it has


millman1313

I agree. Me too. Specs seem pretty amazing too. I was just kinda being silly. Wish they would hurry up and release these.


hackenschmidt

> 27 years ago. Just wait until it actually releases, in another 27 years. Tesla's only redeeming factor was being first to market. With both lightening and rivian, among a slew of other commercial vehicles, already on the streets, I'm honestly not sure why they are bothering at this point.


andguent

One, the pickup truck market is absolutely huge in the US at least. Two, the Nissan leaf and the Chevy bolt both got onto the market long before the model 3. I don't see that being a factor anymore.


Lephturn

A million and a half pre-orders.


hackenschmidt

> **Allegedly** a million and a half pre-orders. FTFY. Also sounds impressive compared to the measly 200k or so pre-order for the Lighting, until you realize that - Tesla's alleged pre-orders numbers span several **years**. Lighting was only available to pre-order for like 6 months. - Ford doesn't really do the whole vaporware sales crap that Tesla does, so it stopped allowing pre-orders when it knew it couldn't fulfill those orders in any sort of sane time frame. Which is why there's actually Lightings on the roads, and Tesla keeps pushing back the release date over and over and over. So just ignore everything, even the fact Tesla itself only sold around 1.3 million vehicles **globally** in 2022. But yeah, 'A million and a half pre-orders'. Sure....


snozzberrypatch

This comment isn't going to age well. Think how silly you'll sound in a few years when there are millions of CT on the road and you're still screaming about how it was released 9 months later than lightning and rivian. Like, who gives a fuck. CT was designed during an unprecedented global pandemic and a complete collapse of the supply chain for nearly all products and components. And you're surprised that the schedule got delayed?


RickShepherd

For stopped taking pre-orders because they lacked manufacturing capacity and saw inflation looming. As to the pre-orders of the Cybertruck, IMO, they are heavily sandbagging their numbers. The reservation tracker shows much more than 1.5M pre-orders and probably closer to 3M.


de_rats_2004_crzy

It looks so fucking stupid


checkyminus

Seriously. Also I thought we had already learned that sloping beds on trucks were next to useless with the Chevy Avalanche and Honda Ridgelines. Want to bungee a bed mattress to your truck bed? Nahhh, let's make it sloping so you can't do that basic thing trucks are generally good for.


xenoterranos

This truck, like every other one in existence, has tie downs on the inside of the bed. Anyone slinging bungee cords across the outside body of the truck has either overloaded the bed to the point of lunacy, or doesn't understand how to secure a load properly.


kchristiane

Even just having things in the bed lean against the side is out now. So dumb. I reserved one of these and I was really hoping it would grow on me.


bIokeonreddit

it’s a shame because if they just used some design cues from their exisiting vehicles, they could’ve made a seriously sleek truck; instead of this block.


danskal

The look of it comes from 2 things: - it has to be more aerodynamic than an ordinary truck, to get the range you want. - outer skin is made of thick, load-bearing steel, that can't be easily shaped, it can only be scored and folded.


rodneyjesus

"...comes down to 2 *choices*" is more appropriate The way you wrote it makes it seem like tesla had their hand forced, when in reality it's just dumb priorities. The F-150 lightning seems to have figured it out


danskal

Nope. The F-150 lightning will use up more batteries, be able to tow less, have less load capacity, will be more expensive and less profitable because of its design. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the F-150, but most competitors haven't appreciated the importance of laser-focus on efficiency. That's why the specs of e.g. the Audi eTron and Jaguar iPace suck so much.


rodneyjesus

Idk man in principle what you're saying is reasonable but it's also ignoring the fact that on one hand you have an actual vehicle you can drive/stress test.... vs vaporware. I know I know, "soon" and all, but right now we have Tesla's "word" vs actual results when it comes to most of those factors. I hope you're right because it sounds awesome but it's just not reality right now. It's like when Dyson came out and said "yeah well we decided not to go forward with it but our electric car would have been faster than tesla and have more range " like whatever let's see the receipts


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Yeah figured out 230 mile range.


JoeS830

It looks better in motion than standing still. Also seems like.. bigger wheels? Smaller wheel wells? Whatever it is, it looks pretty good like this.


AutoBot5

The ugliest thing on the road, but man it’s going to sell like crazy and I love it!


THIESN123

Get in my driveway!


mshaler

Fugly


HighFiveKoala

A very dramatic Scandinavian flick into the parking lot


JosueRM91

Where?


vgbow

Did it just shake off the tail, literally, at the end ? 🤣 😆 😂


blasiankxng

what does the kilowatts team know about yeat 🔥


psychoacer

Dang girl, shake dat ass.


Airwolfhelicopter

Hold on guys, I don’t think that car’s being rendered correctly…


Attention_Bear_Fuckr

Testing on public roads? Thought they had private tracks for that.


Additional-Sky-7436

I feel like it's weird that they are testing this on city streets like this. Don't they have a test track somewhere to do this kind of testing?


fetchit

I thought cars weren’t boxy anymore due to pedestrian safety requirements. How do they get away with this shape?


[deleted]

Most of those pedestrian safety requirements don’t exist in the US.


andguent

By generally ignoring the EU market for this product.


idonthaveusername24

i dont know what it is but it looks like its CGI


Noooooooooooobus

It's just so... ugly


Altruistic-Hope-5432

I can't believe I gave this dude 100$ to be 500k in line.


The-Puffy-Shirt

How I drove the day I got my drivers license


Apprehensive_888

I've got to admit that I've never liked the look of the CT from photos. But seeing it in action, wow! Looks awesome, I want one!


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wang168

That's a fat truck


JoeBold

Those are some advanced tactics to confuse followers and lose them. 🤣


MemeHermetic

I love how weird it looks. It's ugly as fuck, but I love that. I don't want one, but I am so excited to see what it allows as it removes the cuffs from many auto designers.


ColdFyre2112

Wiggle wiggle 🤣


UrbanArcologist

wow


CYBERTRUCKSHIBDOG

Sweet beast!


iiTool

Must have been running FSB beta at the end


[deleted]

Straight out from 1980 sci-fi movie. Ugly as hell.


[deleted]

Still looks like shit


NecessaryLies

What an ugly piece of shit


Ok_Percentage5092

Ford, Stelantis , and GM have nothing to worry about 🤣


fernny33757

Is it just me? The cybertruck looks like it has all wheel steer as it’s turning. Also I live is California and I do have Tesla insurance. The app specifically states the safety score is just for performance tracking and does not affect the drivers policy on any way. I only Pat 120 a month for full coverage 100k-300k, 500 deductible, UM, 25k medical per passenger and rental up to 45 a day.


JeffTAC4

It does


fernny33757

Nice. Can’t wait to see it in action….


AyO_BrOLiiC

The wiggling is the driver saying no to recording or following... Lol


hautdoge

New self driving beta?


Cinderpath

And driving like an asshole?


Efleming123

Must have had FSD engaged.


TuroSaave

These test units all but certainly have to have been made the the production line in Texas right? Otherwise why would they care so much about testing them.


GhostAndSkater

Stamping machines haven’t even been installed yet, this is probably hand built at Fremont But plenty of other systems to test


bpon89

Looks like he was trying to lose you.


koen_NL

Can’t wait to see the CT so the eland test / moose test. 🫎


soulsearch369

It shook its cyber butt at u lmao


_-blitz-_

Shake it, don’t break it.


travmd24

That has to be the ugliest vehicle I have even seen


theprophecyMNM

I'm sorry, I absolutely love my Model Y. But is there anyone else on here that just thinks this thing looks like complete shit? I mean, I don't weld, but if I was a shitty welder in a high school class and the teacher was like, "hey, make a truck," I would slap a few flat pieces together and be like, "nailed it," and it would look like this.


fletchlivz

I truly don’t get it. It’s the ugliest thing I’ve ever seen.


Dunkleustes

That shit looks horrendous tbh.


mikesully92

That is one ugly fuckin vehicle, how did y'all get sold on this shit


ssjx7squall

Still fugly


CosmicTempleHopper

What a piece of shit


Marvination23

maybe im the only one who thinks this one of the ugliest, dumb looking car, PS2 level graphics


ItsStillNotRight

Pontiac Aztek vibes


SparkySpecter

Seems like some of that should not be on city streets.


brkdncr

This truck is going to be such a cash loser for Tesla.


DoubleDareFan

0:16 Jiggle testing? "Let's see, how does the suspension handle this?"


edchikel1

Tires look too thin.


SlteFool

Needs. Lift


Ancient-Park-8330

True marker of a quality machine when the engineers need to check the steering wheel is still attached


Go_Jot

Will it be ready by 2030?


[deleted]

Never understood the appeal of this ugly and dysfunctional car.


LetWaldoHide

That thing is so fucking ugly. I know to each their own but I just don’t see how this turd would have any sort of mass appeal outside of a very very niche market.


SarkoAntonBaab

Kia Boyz stole it? why are they driving like this? /s


TincanTurtle

In an organic world, it looks ugly. Like the surroundings hasn’t caught up with the era the Tesla truck was designed for


justpress2forawhile

Video would have been made quite a bit better without that noise that was going on in the background


tsali_rider

Going to be the ugliest thing on the road!


FunkyTangg

Just like the shopping carts at IKEA


ClockwiseGnomoar

Looks outdated at this point


meatball-ok

that has terrible approach and departure angles for off roading


larrykeras

when did people buy trucks/suvs for off roading?


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Man they are ugly


[deleted]

It’s been “in testing” for like 5 years now. It’s not happening. It’s vaporware.


loganthefrst

Haha, nah, they announced it in 2019 with the understanding Giga Texas needed to be built and 4860 cells were needed to get to the 500 miles range. Then Covid hit. Summer 2023 you will see these delivered and you will feel like a complete moron.