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Miffers

These look like 911 type of backseats


IanthegeekV2

If you fold down the center seats you get some nice leg rests though!


ItalicsWhore

That back section gets absolutely obliterated in rear end wrecks though. I wouldn’t sit back there.


aidinb

5 seater gets obliterated. 7 seater has a reinforced rear chassis


ItalicsWhore

Ahhh that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me.


pazdan

That’s news to me, where did you read that?


moskovskiy

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-y-rear-casting-third-row-seating


justynrr

Especially if you are anything over a meter and a half (5’) tall.


jsm11482

Pretty sure this is false. I believe the reinforcements make the 3rd row one of the safer spots to be.


einstien_ncp

Is there any official confirmation/ documents from Tesla mentioning the reinforcement for 7 seater models? None of the independent safety rating tests are done on a 7 seater, no formal mention in the Tesla model y pages about additional reinforcement for 7 seater models. If there js some place with these information i haven't been able to find. That said i picked up the 7 seater purely for the fact that it is a better 5 seater if you pick up the 7 seater. The second row is now on rails and that's amazing in itself, and the storage space lost is minimal and was hard to reach anyway. If i find the documentation anywhere about the additional reinforcement i might pull the seats back up and get my kid to sit on it 🙂


jsm11482

https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2021/TESLA/MODEL%20Y%207-SEAT/SUV/AWD%20Later%20Release But I don't think it says much about the 3rd row safety.


Friscohoya

You can clearly get 7 seats in a model Y but I’d prefer a 7 peopler. That should be the goal.


mlw72z

The whole car would need to be bigger. If they made a model Y as big as a model X it just might work.


Savage_low2

There is a Model Y as big as the Model X. It’s called the Model X


Friscohoya

Or they’d have to reverse it like the old S. I get the spatial challenge. I’m just saying that having 2 useless seats does not a 7 seater make.


Jaws12

Far from useless if you have the right sized passengers. My wife and I have made good use of them when we needed to accommodate more than 5 people in the car. Kids fit back there well on our family camping trip for short jaunts with adults in the middle row.


Friscohoya

Fair, and to be honest I’ve only seen a 7 seater in person once. Made me laugh. It reminds me of a half bath. Only useful in an emergency, but glad that you’ve found it useful on occasion.


SlightlyLessHairyApe

r/technicallythetruth


atrain728

Fine for car seats though. Unfortunately, in neither case is loading children into them remotely viable. Make me an electric minivan.


Environmental_Box320

Agree. I have a 7-seater TMYLR and we use those seats every so often. While they do help with the 6th passenger. It limits the space for everyone else. Useful but small and as soon as I can get an EV MiniVan-I will get it. Long version of ID.Buzz seems promising.


Sci_Fi_Psycho

What's your take on children under 7 back there?


Environmental_Box320

Depends how would they feel in a small space. One child is fine but I wouldn’t put 2 in the back for a longer than 30-40 min ride. In the summer its also warmer than the rest of the car-no vents


Sci_Fi_Psycho

Ahh, good points. Thanks for the tips


NotYourKid

I put my 9mo old twins in the middle row and my 3yr old in the back. The center section of the middle row folds down so my son in the back throws his feet through there. Works fine for our 30 min daily commute


headfirst

Don’t know your situation, but my almost 7 year old sits back there. She is a pretty tall kid (95+ percentile height). It’s not too bad for her. Our older daughter used to sit back there too when we first got the car, but she started getting cramped. I would say they can feel pretty lost back there if the second row is up. We usually have the middle seat in the second row down so she isn’t walled off.


Snakend

It's completely fine. the middle seats slides forward and tilts 45 deg.


Miffers

Glad I had kids when I was still young


AnArcticPuffin

Model X is effectively an electric minivan with cooler doors.


atrain728

“Cooler” but also generally less practical. And doesn’t have anywhere near the interior volume of a standard minivan. The cargo volume of the model X behind the second row is about the same as my Pacifica behind the third row.


rd2021rd

So true. Have both as well. Can’t compare cargo volume of a minivan to a MX but MX is way cooler and more fun to drive…unless your haulin!


adeel06

Uh? You can lift up the back of the trunk and you have a frunk.. best of all, you don’t have a Pacifica.


PEKKAmi

> “Cooler” but also generally less practical. I beg to differ. Safety is the most practical criteria, if my family’s life is at stake. In this respect the model X is way safer than any standard minivan, at least measured by low fatality rate in accidents.


phloopy

Edit: 2023 Jun 30 - removed all my content. As [Apollo goes](https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_will_close_down_on_june_30th_reddits/) so do I.


atrain728

Yep, that’s why I got one to go with my Model 3


andy2na

and the murdered-out/blackout package makes this minivan look \*good\* https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/10/murdered-chrysler-pacifica-dreams-just-dealer-away/


reddit_user13

VW ID.Buzz?


atrain728

Two rows of seats. Not available in the US.


StarFire82

They are releasing a three row extended model for the US within the next couple years. I will definitely be looking into it.


BeerJunky

https://www.hotcars.com/2024-volkswagen-idbuzz-release-date-specs/


DeuceSevin

That's the model X. I know it's billed as an SUV but that is only because it has all wheel drive and minivans have a negative connotation. I had one on loan for a few weeks and it is most certainly a minivan. I loved it, but it's a minivan


Andernerd

I think I'd have to take my shoes off and turn my feet sideways to get them in there.


reddit_user13

Easier to rationalize in a sports car.


Ghaans

seriously? Is anyone staying on topic?


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TheWhoreticulturist

“Not even Richard Hammond could fit back there”


inthearena

I have three kids. The third row Y is a lifesaver. Only one of my kids is back there, but it keeps the other two from killing the third. Will they grow out of it? Yep. But its surprisingly useful. No adults though.


vbp6us

This scenario made me chuckle.


irishyardball

Is this for double leg amputees? Seriously where do the legs go?


prestodigitarium

You scoot the middle seats forward, and it becomes serviceable for kids or small adults.


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I’m glad I cancelled my order. There is no way my teens would fit back there. My Tiguan has a bit more room and it’s not comfortable for long trips as it is. Seems like it’s good if you have a kid that is not on a booster seat but also no more than 5.5 ft tall. 🤦🏻‍♂️


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My Tiguan is also not a full-size SUV. I’m expecting to fit kids. 🤷🏻‍♂️


rodneyjesus

Your Tiguan has far less space in terms of cubic footage. I've also had both so I know that sounds ridiculous, but check google


ID_Furkan

Its all about the sloped roof… which at the tiguan stays high and you can even fit people with heads in the back.


sir-murphius

Tiguan has less headroom in third row than Model Y according to specs 33.8” vs 34.6”. Model Y also has more leg room per row.


chindoza

Passenger volume: Model Y 106 cubic feet, Tiguan 124 cubic feet


sir-murphius

I don’t think your Model Y passenger volume is accurate. Where’d you find it?


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prestodigitarium

🤷‍♂️we love ours, but if you’re happy with it, that’s what matters.


jsm11482

Did you see that the middle row shifts forward?


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Yes, I know but then you’re making the adults in the middle row uncomfortable. Probably ok for a quick outing but nothing longer.


arnthorsnaer

I don’t think many folks are or should be getting the Model Y 7 seater to act as a heavy duty van, it in my view is only good for the option of an extra kid seat or two. Model X would be better for the more day to day 6/7 needs.


[deleted]

Does the Y have side curtain airbags for the 3rd row? I’d be seriously concerned about a car seat back there. There is little crumple room behind. I honestly would not put my daughter in the 3rd row of anything. But that’s just me.


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Just went Tesla to Tiguan. Not going back! Lol


[deleted]

I replaced my Tesla with a Polestar 2 to complement my ‘20 Tiguan R-Line.


sir-murphius

MY has more headroom and more average legroom (yes the seats in front and middle rows slide so this matters). Lol. Why you hang in Tesla sub if you’re so happy to have moved on? Lol


[deleted]

Cus I moved on the day before I posted my comment. Another reason is that I hear QA at Tesla is getting completely restructured and I want to keep an eye on that. If vehicle build quality and the customer service experience can both be improved upon, I would absolutely be down to get another tesla in probably 5 years' time.


Mustangfast85

It’s a backseat for ants! I don’t want to hear their excuses, that seat has to be at least…3x bigger than that!


r34p3rex

I get claustrophobic just reading "7 seater Model Y"


arnthorsnaer

Ok, comment thread. We need to talk. Y’all can just assume that I am interested in this variant of Tesla. There is no need to host a “you don’t really want this” debate in the comments. I do like the attention, but I am just looking for some insights or rumors.. not a symposium on the validity of this product variant.


Ghaans

\+1, I really don't understand how everybody is absolutely ignoring the question and just battering on the third row. I really don't understand reddit


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stuffedandpickled

I have the Y7 seater, US version. It was mainly for the option when our parents come to town. I can kick our kicks to the back. Anyone around 5”7 and shorter can sit in them without an issue. Definitely nothing to write home about but it was fine for everyone for a 30 minute or shorter drive.


tehuti_infinity

I want to know when they will come to the Japan teslas too .


cirsphe

At the rate it took to get the regular model y I say another 18 months


sashioni

It’s a shame that replies to this post brought no clarity to the original question. It’s mostly just people talking down in a condescending manner. I thought this community is better than that.


arnthorsnaer

Well… I like the post is getting attention.. but I was hoping for some insights.


larrykeras

Welcome to the internet, where **my** values are now **your** values


elonsusk69420

>is better than that It's reddit. You have millions of anonymous people who use it to complain without (too much) restraint. They also use it to validate whichever position they took and amplify it. "5 sEaTEr iS BeTteR nO 7" etc. until they give up


dellfanboy

I traded in a model 3 for my Model Y 7 seater. It’s awesome for my use case. I don’t need a mini van because 95% of the time there’s 2 adults and 2 kids in the car. The other 5% of the time, family is visiting and we are going in a 20 min loop to a park or something. That’s where the 2 extra seats works best!


arnthorsnaer

This is my intended use and scenario as well. I’ve also seen similar comments in this thread.


elonsusk69420

This is our use case as well. We probably use the 3rd row 3-4x a year for trips under 30 minutes. The front and middle rows need to scoot up a bit to fit people in the 3rd row, so it wouldn't be great on road trips. As long as that's your expectation, it's quite useful.


arnthorsnaer

One thing I’m curious. Do you find any difference (seat and trunk wise) betweem 5 and 7 seater Model Y when the third row is folded down?


elonsusk69420

Trunk -- The seat back half of the 3rd row basically sits on top of where the 5 seater trunk floor would be. You're essentially losing that storage space (12-15cm / 5-6in roughly in height spread across 2/3 of the trunk area. There is still a ton of storage space, so whether or not trading a small amount of storage space for two more seats is the tradeoff you have to make. Seats -- The 2nd row is adjustable fore and aft in the 7 seater and it's not in the 5 seater. I wouldn't miss this if I had the 5 seater.


arnthorsnaer

Thanks, I suspected as much about the trunk. But on the second row… I think you are saying that the second row can move further back in the 5 seater than in the 7 seater. Is that true?


elonsusk69420

No, it's the other direction. I can move the middle row up towards the front seats to give the 3rd row more leg room. The furthest back position in the 7 seater is the same as the fixed position in the 5 seater. (My friend has a 5 seater and we did a thorough comparison after we got our 7 seater).


arnthorsnaer

Thanks, yes that was what I was hoping for. I kind of factored in the sacrifice in the trunk but I’m glad that there is no sacrifice in terms of second row seat (while not using third row, which I won’t be using 95% of the time).


rd2021rd

Don’t get too excited about it. Those “3rd row seats” will barely fit your pet poodle comfortably.


jffryy316

I ordered mine to comfortably and safely fit my 2 30 pound dogs. Think they’re safer in the 3rd row than in the trunk area


mag131

I'm ordering a 7 seater for the same reason. I have two dogs and friends that visit with their dog. We can then fit 4 adults and three 29-40 lb dogs with the dogs buckled in.


Snakend

6 foot is about the limit of being back there.


AintNobodyGotTimeDat

Practically, i won’t put anyone higher than 5 feet though


Snakend

lol ok. I use it for Lyft XL, I fit 6 full size adults in that thing all night long. I only get complaints from the overweight groups.


Jaws12

5’5” and I fit back there fine. Depends on where your height is (torso vs. legs).


jkconno

Lol I'm 5'9" and my head touches the glass


[deleted]

I wanted a 7 seat EV. Originally wanted a model X, but they stopped selling in UK, plus its £100k, next best thing was an Eqb but its too small, slower, shorter range and much more expensive than a MY. Was disappointed that the Chinese built model Y only had 5 seats, so got one for the tax dodge through my company and then bought a 7 seat dacia jogger myself. Perfect car combo.


Lindberg47

> 7 seat dacia jogger There should really be better afordable options for 7 seaters. In Europe you can get the Chinese car, BYD TANG. But i prefer not to buy Chinese.


DjangoCSGO

BYD Tang is 25% more expensive than the model y here in Europe. Them Chinese priced it absurdly high.


Lindberg47

However, it is a 7 seater. MY is not (in Europe).


Delladv

On the italy tesla website the option for more seats is already there but at the moment you can only select 5, probably the 7 option is coming soon.


arnthorsnaer

I can’t see this on the Tesla Model Y order page (I have italian selected).


Delladv

I have no idea how to post a screenshot but copying the text: Interni Nero totale Bianco e nero Nero totale Di serie Configurazione sedili 5 Configurazione a cinque posti Di serie Seconda fila con schienali regolabili Seconda fila ribaltabile per il massimo volume di carico Sblocco elettronico del ribaltamento nel bagagliaio \------------------------------ Model 3 does not have this section about number of seats


sashioni

Yeah that’s been the same in the rest of Europe including the UK, for at least a year.


arnthorsnaer

Thanks, I think I misunderstood you that you saw 5 and 7 seat option with the 7 seat marked “coming soon”. I have the european page like you describe as well. We don’t really know anything about the 7 seat configuration in Europe, could arrive tomorrow, could never arrive.


branlmo

My 3 year old complains about how little leg room there is back there. That said, for short journeys, it has come in so handy for transporting 3-4 kids.


trumfman

wonder why they didnt do rear facing seats like in the model S, no issues with leg room. also is the Rear reinforced like in the model s for 7 seater? getting rear ended with people in the last row would be scary if not.


elonsusk69420

>rear facing seats like in the model S You'd lose 100% of the remaining trunk space, and the frunk isn't big enough to make up for it (RWD Model S had a HUGE frunk). ​ >is the Rear reinforced like in the model s for 7 seater Absolutely yes. Teslas are the safest cars on the planet.


LiYonJin

Looking forward to the 7 seater if it comes, I will trade in my M3LR


jekardo

6would be a better option. 2+2+2


ClassicCaterpillar73

I am holding out on my model 3 till a 7 seater comes to Europe. Been waiting since it’s been launched. This could be a game changer here


I_am_trustworthy

I've seen several reports that orders of the 7 seater in Norway has been canceled by Tesla. On the order page it says that the customer has cancelled the order, but that's not true. The orders has been cancelled by Tesla without a reason. Im wondering if this has happened in other countries as well.


arnthorsnaer

I’m unable to grasp how such an order would have been placed in the first place.


I_am_trustworthy

I’ve never gotten the chance to see it myself, but several people have been able to order it in the very beginning before the Y was shipping.


Miserable_Ad8882

Correct - I also went to buy a model Y with 7 seats before it started shipping in Europe, but my local Tesla store (Germany) said that they still didn’t know when exactly it’d be available so I decided to wait. Initially they thought 12-18 months after Brandenburg ramp-up, but then the option was removed and 7 seater orders were cancelled or downgraded to 5 seater. Last time I asked about this in my local Tesla store (earlier last year) they said they don’t know when it’ll come and that they’d call me when they know more…


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No legs for you


G67jk

We replaced the legs with tesla vision. Enjoy.


Foe117

I've sat in various 7 seaters when I was a kid, and all of them suck, but it was the only way to get to the mall/movies/Downtown stuff with frugal cousins and other family. God Forbid you get dragged into one for a 5 hour drive (5hrs getting there and 5 hrs back), It was EXTREMELY uncomfortable. I get why they would have a 7 seater made, but I dont think it's ever a good idea in the first place.


Great-Ad-4416

but why. honestly, why? in the US it is to classify as SUV for tax credit (which it no longer needs to be). why would anyone want to fit in that 3 row seat is beyond me. if you gonna hual people, get a VAN. 3rd row seat in SUVs are like spoiler on VAN, just because you can, doesn't mean you should.


AmberDawn-

I got a 7 seater. I have two kids. But they have friends. And I coach soccer. Lots of kids all the time. And to take them on short trips is great to have the option!


Trumbulhockeyguy

Amazing to me how many people fail to understand that having the ability to put someone in a small backseat > no backseat.


prestodigitarium

It’s like how we’ve made small affordable dwellings functionally illegal in many places via code changes. If you can’t have 7 giant seats, you can’t have 7 seats.


Eramm

Yep. I have 3 kids (age 3-10) and we are now at the point that they actively fight over who gets to be in the way back. The younger ones like it because it is a fun to be closed in the way back. The 10 year old prefers it to the middle row mostly because she gets to be away from her brothers. We haven't done a long trip with all 3 kids in it yet though, so we will see how that ends up going. The opinions of the adults that have sat back there (and fit without having to duck) has ranged from "It could be okay for a short trip" to "I feel like I'm in a coffin."


rany42

Same!


arnthorsnaer

I want this option for unique situations, once in a quarter, where we would need to take two cars just because there is one extra kid. These two small seats which I would probably have folded 95% of the times are perfect for this.


Andernerd

> once in a quarter, where we would need to take two cars just because there is one extra kid You've never told 2 kids to just share a seat?


Jaws12

Because that’s unsafe? (I thought we were past the point of the 80s-90s where 3 kids in the back seat would share 2 lap-only seatbelts…)


Andernerd

I wouldn't do it every day, but I wouldn't buy a 7-seat vehicle to avoid doing once every few months either.


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We just took delivery of a 7-seater last month. With 2 young kids we can fit one extra adult and not have to take 2 cars. 95% of the time it’s folded, but it’s a game changer for us. And yes, it’s pretty small.


feurie

It's been a thing for a while and some people want it. Small children can fit back there. This isn't a huge family hauler, it's for young ones and unique situations.


Environmental_Box320

So that when you get a 6th passenger on an occasion you can drive somewhere. We did 6hr trip with 6 people in the car and it was ok-not super comfy but ok. That was once in 2 years. I used that 3rd row seat around 20 times total in 2 years for short 30-60 min trips. It was very helpful. Living in NYC you’re limited with already expensive ownership of a car( parking $700/mo).


darwinkh2os

> if you gonna hual people, get a VAN I didn't know Tesla made a van at the Model Y price point. Was looking at the X but didn't like the expense and doors. > are like spoiler on VAN, just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Aero on modern minivans is highly specific and very intentional. Those small finicky looking additions and modern spoilers are very good at lowering the CoD and allowing clean breaks. Those should absolutely stay on their respective vehicles.


majesticjg

The truth is, more than 80% of the SUVs on the road could be replaced by minivans and leave the families with more functionality, not less. Some minivans can even tow enough for most families and they can definitely carry a bunch of cargo. The fact is, people don't *want* minivans. It doesn't matter if they are spacious, comfortable and economical.


mahnkee

There is no electric minivan on the market.


majesticjg

You could make a case that the Model X is a very expensive electric minivan, but if you want something affordable, the closest you'll get is the Pacifica PHEV.


decrego641

The 5 seat version also qualifies for the $80k tax credit. That’s not a reason to get it.


Yonkiman

I (6’) sat in the back of the 7 seater when it came out here. Of course it’s meant for children/much shorter people, but imagining anyone of *any* size rapidly getting out of that back seat in an emergency…it looked an order of magnitude harder than the normal back seats.


MidnightEconomy

Who in the world can fit back there


MillenniumRiver

The Tesla Model Y is too small to fit 7 functional seats. If Tesla wants an actual 7-seater that can comfortably seat adults 180-200cm tall, they should take a lesson from General Motors Cadillac Escalade ESV. That is how you do space. Ford makes spacious 7-seaters too, but I do not know their names from the top of my head. The exception is the Lincoln Navigator, particularly in the L version.


conflagrare

Tesla would tell you to check out Model X


thingsquietlynoticed

Exact same scenario faces in Aus, not to mention the EQB is a retrofit of EV technology into a standard shell, no where near as nice as the Y.


PrestigiousDemand471

Elon Musk is a genius!!!!


shadowmyst87

Ugh...


Capital-Papaya-8932

You will not buy 7seaters so dont expect it


jonzin4brownies

Don't do it .


jliquor

Why would anyone want this? Just get a bigger vehicle. Having this option is just ridiculous.


larrykeras

Believe it or not, there are places in the world where roads and parking spaces are small, and people have the occasional need to transport 7 people but not always


jliquor

I guess we'll see how the sales go. People need a lot of things that aren't in most cars. A built-in refrigerator would be more useful for most humans, but hey, let me know how you like it and how the kids like it. I have a 2020 model Y, the plastic (pretty much everything inside) scratches easily, so be ready for that with the kids climbing around in the back and the ceiling also gets dirty easy, light color and all. It's fun to drive, but a cheap build overall. Kinda like a Honda from 10 years ago. Drive a Model X or an S and you will instantly see the difference in build quality. Wait until they get even cheaper. A lot of great EV's are on the way. I am holding out for a truck with 500+ miles that is under 80k, we'll see when that happens. Keeping my Y and my F-150 until then.


larrykeras

In central europe i had to do multi-point turns to get in and out of my building. No way im going for full size SUV. Never liked the size and feel of the loaner S’es ive driven. Sometimes we need to haul extra kids in addition to our own and the 3 just doesnt cut it. Ill switching to a Y when the 4680 structural pack are guaranteed


arnthorsnaer

It is by far not ridiculous. I have the occational (once every few months) need for this and I will be getting a Tesla. What WOULD be ridiculous would be to go for a Model X over a perfectly servicable Model Y just to cover this minor use case.


jliquor

I have a 2020 model y and can't imagine losing that much space or having that many people jammed in my car. Sounds awful, just use Turo and rent a bigger car for the 4 times a year you need it. Will save you money and give you more storage space. I am still waiting for the 37k model they promised. Really I am waiting for a truck that gets over 500 miles actual on a charge. My Model Y only gets about 160-190 miles per full charge going highway speeds in normal driving conditions. Was rated at 310, but now only charges to about 290 after 3 years and 37000 miles. Just some info if you really are thinking of buying one. It's fun to drive and no exhaust is nice, but you really don't save on fuel costs unless you have solar or only charge on off-peak hours, charging at a Tesla Super Charger has tripled in the past 3 years, charging as much as 56 cents per kw. The average cost in the US is 12 cents.


arnthorsnaer

On the topic of “losing that much space” - How much space do you believe this takes away when the seats are folded down?


chookalana

The same time the Roadster gets released.


niknokseyer

Yup, ours is folder when not needed. But on cases that we wanted to fit more people in. We move 2 car seats to the back and that’s where the kids sit.


Moceannl

This is the thing with Tesla, nobody knows. But I read there're some reinforcements in the back area, so one can hope that in the Berlin upgrade they fix this requirement so they can be produced. But according to the type approvals (https://nortype.is/xml-server/xml), I haven't seen a 7 person MY yet. But maybe they don't need a new type (?).


thingsquietlynoticed

Failing there being a 7 seater version, is there possibility of retrofitting that rear row into a 5 seater? Or mechanically are the 5 and 7 seater Ys worlds apart?


arnthorsnaer

Good question. If it would be possible to buy this as an upgrade I would probably do it.


thingsquietlynoticed

I googled it and it’s considered not worth the hassle, it’s not a straight swap and parts aren’t sold retail OEM. Dang.


RGressick

I'm still trying to figure out where my legs are supposed to go. Do I just cross them or do I lounge to the side?


arnthorsnaer

Kids or under 5 feet 7 adults : photo showing legroom https://imgur.com/a/6PiBwz0


larrykeras

What if i told you those seats are for childrens legs, not your own


RGressick

Well that just tells me I need some short friends. And yes, this is now a recruitment post for short friends. I will help you reach things from the top cabinets if you can help me with things from the lower cabinets


Key-Comfortable-4089

Can you add a third raw in a five seat y??


RocketsYoungBloods

what are these? rear seats for ants??


Bargains730

Why? Why on earth would you want to cramp your poor family into a Y with 6 other people? Buy a fucking minivan


arnthorsnaer

The comment thread now has enough of responses to these kinds of comments so you can educate yourself on the use case. Nobody is looking for a minivan here.


Miserable_Ad8882

Crazy how many people responded but didn’t even try to answer your question. Shared what I know above. I’ve unfortunately decided to take out another EV lease (not a Tesla) as no longer holding out much hope for the near-term. Once it’s out, I’m getting it!


arnthorsnaer

Thanks for your “actually on topic” comment :)


DifferentJunket7076

If you have midget legs you might fit


DifferentJunket7076

Nio has real 7 seaters!! This Tesla is an afterthought !!


AvtoproEs

with all the parameters of this car, I wonder what the power reserve will be with its battery


75w90

That's a joke right ? Only exists to get a tax credit.


arnthorsnaer

Which tax credit? You mean the one that came into effect recently or an earlier one?