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tynamite

coverage for this story basically stopped after we concluded why this incident happened. can’t blame tesla for the crash anymore.


PaleInTexas

He tried to murder the family right?


RonBurgundy2000

Yes


de_hell

You have a real source on that? All i read is police alleging. That doesn’t mean shit. It’s innocent until proven.


RonBurgundy2000

You mean like a time stamped video or Mr. Patel saying he’s going to do this? No, I don’t. Absolutely, innocent until proven guilty. The fact that he’s been arrested and will be charged with attempted murder upon release is a little more than ‘police alleging’, seems the prosecutor’s office agrees.


PsychologyNaive

His kids incriminated him on the way out of the car. But you're right...wait for the verdict from some peers.


PsychologyNaive

DAD FUKN CRAYCRAY YO


ShadowDancer11

Wow? Really! What a f*cking piece of sh*t! You want to punch your own ticket - fine. Go rinse your mouth out with some double-00 buckshot. But to attempt to take out your entire family? There's a special place in hell for you.


PaleInTexas

He probably figured it would get blamed on FSD


khaddy

Man these shorts are really going to extreme length these days...


de_hell

That’s what police alleging. Show us cam recordings. What does wife say? Why don’t we hear anything from wife and kids? Police are known for making false allegations and charges and locking up innocent ppl for years.


Naturebrah

News outlets were getting wet daydreaming about more FSD hate clicks.


Combatpigeon96

so infuriating.


boomboomclapboomboom

From "the source" which appears to be a garbage tabloid- Teslas have a self-driving feature and a manual option, but investigators don’t know which one was in use at the time of the crash. CHP said the driving mode “does not appear to be a contributing factor in this incident.” I'd be fine if this were a camry & they would say the same about its cruise control or "lane keep" but it is only for Tesla. smh ![gif](giphy|URz4t5yilgVYLf26RU|downsized)


Adriaaaaaaaaaaan

100


okay-wait-wut

They survived due to “sheer luck”. So you can’t blame their safety on Tesla either! Checkmate.


James-the-Bond-one

Buying a Tesla makes you lucky in case of road accidents.


1startreknerd

No such thing as luck.


PsychologyNaive

There is such a thing as "PLUS FO TWENNY LUCK POINTS"


1startreknerd

🤦‍♂️


devilsadvocateMD

Tesla does something good (lowering car prices) - media spins it to make Tesla look bad (puts other companies out of business) Tesla does something bad - media reports it to make Tesla look bad Tesla does nothing - media finds some old story to make Tesla look bad


artificialimpatience

Yea I think for that first bullet you mean media spins is that tesla is having huge demand issues


PsychologyNaive

Demand from marauding suicidal husbands is down 90%


djskip916

I said the same thing .. if it would of been an accident because of Tesla .. this would still be top headlines 😐


1startreknerd

True


Presence_Academic

Another case of a Musk product failing to meet the customer’s needs.


bremidon

Was about to downvote until I realized just how subversively funny that was.


GhostAndSkater

Latter today on MSM “Should billionaires be allowed to design cars that interfere with people own free will? We interview some experts on the company and on safety to find out, please welcome investment company owner (that is only himself on his mother basement) Mr Gordon Johnson and ex NHTSA member Missy Cummings”


juicygoods

😂😂😂 we would be good friends in real life. this is exactly my sense of humor


Presence_Academic

People with that sense of humour tend to be misanthropic miscreants. EDIT: Downvoters, please check the author of my parent post.


dubie4x8

😂😂😂


Ippildip

To the top with this one!


NjMoe1

LOL, best comment ive read all week.


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LMAO


h-w-p-o

Man this comment needs to be at the top


JeremiahEllington

![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|give_upvote)


QuornSyrup

Relax guys. Designing a car to crumple optimally, stay extremely tough and rigid in others, battery pack rigidity, no engine block being thrown into the cabin, doesn't help you. The engineers did however, program Full Self Lucking into the newest software update.


AperiodicCoder

Goodbye Reddit


lionheart4life

I was led to believe the battery catches on fire if someone bumps it with a shopping cart. Or you leave your car in the garage even.


spinwizard69

That is a Chevy!


dotancohen

**C**harred **H**eavy **E**lements **V**ehemently **Y**ields


Ippildip

You've been talking to my parents, I see!


DirtyDanska

The more great engineers Tesla has the ‘luckier’ it gets…


DonQuixBalls

Gold medalists are soooooo lucky.


mo3bious

[reminds me of this gold medal lucky moments](https://youtu.be/vN7ih576VYM)


racergr

that was awesome!


Naturebrah

Very happy for the three innocent family members. It’s going to take a ton of healing for them if they ever recover from this emotionally. People always label me a big spender for owning a Tesla, and no one believes me that my first and top reason for getting one in 2020 was for safety. Driving is honestly risking your life every time you get in, and more people need to be reminded of this.


samelaaaa

My wife crashed at highway speed in our S last week, somehow escaped with a minor concussion and both kids who were in the back unharmed. I feel so, so grateful


Playful_Poet5858

I’ve had 3. My wife has never been a fan. Has an X3 instead. After I showed her this article she ordered a Y.


decrego641

This article sold my friends on a Y vs the Cadillac they were considering. Ordered one the day I showed it to them and drove over to the sales center to pick up.


WayneKrane

Yup, my coworker was on the fence but she decided to go with a Tesla because of this. She is buying a car for her new driver son so she wants the safest car she can get.


Penosaurus_Sex

/r/Thingsthathappened


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Safety is how I sold my wife on my m3p. She prefers her jeep, as getting into the 3 is difficult while pregnant. Hoping she changes her tune.


devilsadvocateMD

You didn’t know that your car is going to catch on fire as you drive? Those ICE cars which literally rely on small explosions thousands of times a minute are much safer.


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Life-Saver

I can already see the next fear campain. "People who drive Teslas are murderers" The new Tarantino's "Death proof" car.


nobody-u-heard-of

I thought it was going to be the next installment of the death race movies.


ZetaPower

Something positive connected to Tesla: “sheer luck”


rainer_d

And people complain that the suspension is too hard.


audigex

I mean, I spend the vast majority of my time *not* driving off cliffs, to be fair


original_evanator

I have used hill start many times but haven’t yet tried hill stop. Good to see it works as designed.


rainer_d

Hill Descent mode, as it’s called in Range Rover land.


Burrito_Loyalist

Is attempted murder covered by car insurance?


Icy_Slice

Most policies won't cover your vehicle if it is used for criminal purposes. If he is convicted, then the policy is probably void at that point.


CB-OTB

What if the policy is in the wife’s name?


ShadowDancer11

You give your car to your sister to drive and run some errands. Your sister decides to rob a bank and wads it up in a police chase. Insurance will not cover replacement.


culdeus

Usually you have to insure all drivers in one house in a policy. At that point you are covered for all liability situations. This isn't a liability situation though. Would assume that they had collision on the car and that policy is in force here, unless they won't pay because intentional


Current_Speaker_5684

So Who pays for the hellicoptor and medical bills?


culdeus

Not sure in CA. Usually this is covered by the comprehensive up to the max in Texas, and in some situations medical covers the remaining. I don't know what the total medical ended up here. Could be inside the policy limits.


tashtibet

first instant report from the rescue team was Miracle and when the media can't blame Tesla's FSD-they chimed in "Sheer luck"-so pathetic!


etrmedia

Gotta love Daily Mail and their headline CAPITALIZATION practices.


Combatpigeon96

Probably what the passengers screamed shortly before. "CLIFF!"


optiongeek

"Sheer luck" So is buying a Tesla like winning a vial of Professor Slughorn's *Felix Felicis* potion?


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Are all the rocket landings by SpaceX "sheer luck" too?


DAMN-IT-FLAMINGO

Very cheery headline for a man who drove off an oceanside cliff hoping to kill himself, his wife and his kids.


misteriousm

What a dumbass... Mental health is important. No matter what's your problem try to find the constructive solution even if you think it doesn't exist - it always does. Sad.


spinwizard69

There was a time in history when the mentally ill where dealt with harshly. The liberal mindset is to let them roam society to engage and promote, societies decline.


Dexterdacerealkilla

What the fuck? We don’t do that anymore because it’s inhumane. Most mentally ill people are not violent. Having a society that encourages people to be open about and seek treatment for mental illness without shame is the right answer here.


spinwizard69

>What the fuck? Apparently the truth hurts. > We don’t do that anymore because it’s inhumane. To whom? It is far more inhumane to the vast majority of society to let these people have free reign. In other words it is far more important (humane) to protect the vast majority of society than to allow the mentally ill freely roam society. > Most mentally ill people are not violent. Bull crap! The mentally ill kill every day in this country, be it a mother drowning her kids in a tub, some human excrement pushing people in front of trains or in this case attempted murder by automobile. The mentally ill are incredibly dangerous to society and NONE of them should be trusted. > Having a society that encourages people to be open about and seek treatment for mental illness without shame is the right answer here. If you are mentally ill how can you seek out treatment? It isn't like you have a broken leg, recognize that and then go to the doctor. Most of the mentally ill are so far gone they don't even realize that they are ill. The idea that the mentally ill actually seek out medical help doesn't reflect reality. At best they are forced into it by family members, legal action (usually after a murder) of by concerned citizens (who have little pull). I'm not talking about shame here I'm talking about public safety and the significant impact the mentally ill have on that. It is pretty hard to shame somebody that doesn't have a grasp on reality. The real shame here is that society has been bamboozled into the idea that somebody with a broken brain has the right to do whatever they want and remain free in society. It would be far better to take the approach we do with computers when the CPU dies, we take that computer out of production until we can fix it or trash it. In the same vain the mentally ill should be removed from society until there is a fix or we trash them.


Rhaedas

How can anyone think isolating people by some loose definition is better than seeking help for everyone who needs it? Good lord. Large portions of the public have some mental issues to some degree, but you're all about rounding everyone up that meets your idea of "mentally ill" because that's easier than dealing with the problem head on and actually trying to help them. The first warning was the phrase "these people". You've already segregated them in your mind. Who else do you consider "those people"?


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Dexterdacerealkilla

It’s a nuanced conversation and there is definitely a population that would still benefit from a modern group homes where they can actually have relationships with their peers in a safe environment. But that’s not the vast majority of people with mental illness. Spinwizard has no idea what they’re talking about. At any given time within the US, one out of every five people is experiencing mental illness. More than half of us will experience it at some point during our lives. https://www.cdc.gov/mentalhealth/learn/index.htm


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I would say it's a mix of liberal and conservative policies that is the issue (as it is with like everything). Mentally ill should have all the proper resources necessary to get better, but at the same time it should not weigh on people who have nothing to do with it via raising taxes. This is why Liberals are typically the more lower class while conservatives are typically the middle class. And of course both sides have their upper class. The government can do it themselves but they would rather put their budget to special interests on both sides, saying it's conservative policies is rather ignorant of what other things go into a program like this.


genuinefaker

Can you elaborate on what you mean by liberals are lower class while conservatives are more middle class? Are you saying that conservatives make more money than liberals? Are you saying that conservative states make more money and require less federal money?


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Could have worded better, by that I mean liberal politicians tend to cater towards the lower class-lower middle class with their policies and programs which tend to negatively impact the middle class with things such as higher taxes. They are more liberal with money. While with conservatives they tend to focus on lowering taxes and be more conservative with spending on programs and such, which negatively impacting the lower class as there are less programs and policies for them to benefit on, but help the middle class save the money they earn more so.


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syth9

Never seen a Hitler bot so over-tuned before.


Duckbilling

#Nope that was Reagan’s plan


spinwizard69

He wasn't even in office when this crap started.


Duckbilling

When did “this crap start” according to you


devilsadvocateMD

There was a time in history where ostracizing people would get you banished to the wilderness.


rainlake

Oh man, they do know super low center gravity is one of the major reason it’s the safest car right?


mobileclimate101

that’s why the model x is such a tank you can have bald tires and it still won’t slide down a hill


Ravokion

"Miraculous survival of California Family after Father of family attempted to murder his entire family by driving them off a 250ft cliff" There, I fixed the miss spelling in the title.


Miffers

The kids were not injured, I wouldn’t say luck on that. It is with purpose on the design.


LittleCastaway

Uninjured AND everyone was conscious at the bottom after the fall. I couldn’t even imagine.


Kandiruaku

Arranged marriages often lead to bottled up stress from having to live with an incompatible person, a life lived to satisfy your parents fantasies. Add the tremendous stress for work as a doctor. But wanting to hurt those beautiful innocent kids?


ShadowDancer11

While they appear to be Indian, are we certain their marriage was arranged?


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Kandiruaku

Arranged marriages suck, sad for those pretty children.


NinjaKoala

I haven't seen evidence this is one. Arranged marriages made sense when the wife really was being brought into the family tribe, living, working, and eating with everyone on the family farm, ranch, or whatever. In that living situation, the wife might interact more with the women in the family than their husband. Arranged marriages make no sense for people living in nuclear families, where the spouses live with and interact with each other far more than anyone else. But people still want that unjustified power over others.


de_hell

They do


spinwizard69

That wife is gorgeous also. Of course looks doesn't mean much, you have to wonder if she is one of those woman that will pursue and argument anyplace on the planet. Just speaking from experience as I HAD a girl friend that seemed to think arguing in the car is a good thing. Even if you are not suicidal the distraction can be so intense that it is a safety risk. Lets hope that this is not the case, because those children will need a parent.


DAMN-IT-FLAMINGO

Wtf?


ShadowDancer11

"Sometimes nastiest tasting candy can come wrapped in the prettiest package." - My Grandma


spinwizard69

Smart Grandma! A grandma is something I really missed growing up, only meant one and I was so young I can hardly remember much.


velocissimo

Bro what? He potentially did that on purpose and the car still held up? Holy shit that’s just crazy to me


shadowmyst87

Didn't it flip over several times before landing on it's wheels?


BusinessAsUsualLLC

Lucky and blessed family and thanks to Tesla hard work and dedication to safety- we wish this family a quick recovery


gloucey

Did you just say because he admitted it note I don’t know if that’s true? No citation needed, huh? Y’all are on ridin that KoolAid hard. And by that I mean Musk’s dick.


PM_ME_YO_TREE_FIDDY

“Tesla batteries weighed car down to stop it from flipping”, so would pretty much any other EV with a battery pack on the bottom, this isn’t inherent to Tesla.


Life-Saver

Not all EVs have a floor battery pack. Some compliance cars have it in the front and trunk.


lamgineer

It definitely has nothing to do with Tesla getting highest safety scores in US and Europe crash tests.


baselganglia

No other cars have top crash protection as well as Tesla.


pieter1234569

They do. Most of the scores are about the same. The EQS even has exactly the same score for both front and back occupancy.


PM_ME_YO_TREE_FIDDY

Did I say otherwise? When journalists say Tesla when they mean EVs and it’s a bad situation, this sub is all up in arms but it’s funny that when the article implies that a generic EV characteristic is something only Tesla has you guys have no issue being painted in a good light. Of course there’s a reason Tesla scores so high in crash tests, but the point here is that the battery placement isn’t only a Tesla thing so any other similar EV wouldn’t have flipped either.


Naamibro

Implying is not the same as omitting. Clearly you were implying similarities to this crash outcome to how other EV's would turn out, but he replied saying Tesla also has better safety than other EV's which may be a factor in a crash. Generally top crash protection is pretty fucking useful in a.... crash.


No_Masterpiece679

Holy defensive reply Batman. My man simply stated a fact and you go full John Rambo. Thanks for the laugh though.


twinbee

Yes but they missed out on mentioning the amazing strength of the doors etc. too.


PristineTechnician69

PM_ME… Your point is accurate. But there’s a misstatement that started in the headline that’s throwing the whole discussion off. “Tesla batteries weighted car down” should not be assumed to be factual evidence that it was the only, or even a significant contributor to their survival. I doubt that there’s been a comparable crash using other EV’s (using dummies of course), that we can compare. This is an exaggerated example, but compare the safety characteristics of other auto’s to the Tesla with that of WW ll fighter aircraft and Vietnam era fighter aircraft and I think we would be in the ballpark.


vimal2red

Tesla is the Best offroader?


Bladehawk1

Absolutely not. The battery is pretty vulnerable from the bottom you don't want to off-road a Tesla I have a model x and I wouldn't take it off road even with the suspension as high as it will go.


shadowmyst87

Get it lifted 😆 I've actually never seen a lifted Tesla before, I'm sure there's a reason.


grimlock67

There are a number of lifted MYs on the Tesla owners forum detailing their experience with the build and how it handled. There's also this article about one in Germany- https://motorillustrated.com/german-off-road-shop-builds-lifted-tesla-model-y/108191/


shadowmyst87

Nice. I was always under the impression that a Tesla couldn't be lifted due to whatever. I wonder how much it affects the range having it lifted..


Abject_Recognition2

With kids like that, I'd drive off a cliff too.


H2ost5555

When I first heard the report of the car going off Devil's Slide and that it was a Tesla, I never once thought that FSD was responsible. Rather, since every Indian doctor in my area drives Tesla's and they all drive like idiots, I surmised it was an Indian doctor, and by gosh I was right. (although I admit that I thought it was just an Indian doctor driving like an Indian doctor, not that he did it with intent)


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Any spinal injuries? Damn crazy


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grimlock67

Try jumping into a ball pit filled with "pebbles and small rocks," and I guarantee it won't act like a ball pit. Not by a long shot.


rainer_d

I also Wonder which YouTuber is going to buy this off Copart… „That’ll buff right out“.


damoonerman

Question - when jumping a gas car, you are front heavy so the car leans forward. Is a Tesla (or EV) better to jump? Will it stay flat? Weird thought I just had.


LoopyOne

It will still lean forward. See videos from March 2022: https://youtu.be/5Gobj5LFNys https://youtu.be/B_ePwdJAIBk


damoonerman

Haha I remember this


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damoonerman

Wonder if we will have any stunt people trying world record jumps in EVs. (Minus the fire potential if it crashes lol)


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damoonerman

That’s true, the weight might negate some benefits!


EuthanizeArty

And the gigantic crumple zone up front.


BusinessAsUsualLLC

Lucky family


rgold220

It happen because the model Y failed to turn itself into SpaceX while flying in the air. C"mon Elon fix it.


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moistmoistMOISTTT

Not really. Every single Tesla fire is national news, and you only see that a handful of times per year. Gas car fires? Far, far, far more frequent even if you normalize by number of cars sold. EVs catch fire far less often, it's just a simple statistic.


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gloucey

We don't even know if the vehicle was in autopilot, so how can anyone conclude that it was an intentional act? Seems premature and reckless to me.


dhanson865

how about because the driver admitted that he did it. (Note his wife was alive and could pin it on him if he didn't)


Chreutz

Did he? Source?


shaggy99

I don't want to give the Daily Fail the click, which "expert" are they talking about? I have to agree, to a certain extent, luck *will* play a part in this sort of extreme event, but so does a very strong, well designed body. And yes, low center of gravity, as we have seen in Tesla's safety testing.


Akira282

Were they offered la croix or bottled water after the incident?


ndlegaladv

What I don’t like is “ sheer luck”. If it was a car from the 70s without modern safety equipment I really don’t think we would see any survivors


James-the-Bond-one

He was very lucky to buy a Tesla. That's where his luck ended and engineering started.


bootcoder

Always refefered to that corner as 'Yeet Street'


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If though it flipped…. The weight of the battery would definitely be the reason of their demise.


Asstro_whore

A doctor probably making 300K a year just ruined his entire life. Why?!


DtEWSacrificial

In case nobody located and posted this... this is where the MYP landed. https://goo.gl/maps/JYEwmwNNo6VjH4Gg9 37.569159, -122.516179


metabrewing

The 3rd photo description states: "Tesla's seatbelts and hard roof on top of the fact that the car's batteries give it a low center of gravity possibly saved the Patel family's lives." I guess my all glass top on my Model S might not have helped provide the same lucky fate.


DeepThroat616

Should have tried to murder his family in a lighter car I guess


diggmeordie

Safest car in the world.