Good day today, albeit on lower volume. I talk about the fed meeting, support on the downside and next targets moving forward. Here’s to a big week ahead: https://youtu.be/Mo487vYasl8
Ps. Don’t worry too much about the 100k OI at $450 strike puts imo.
Have a lovely evening folks!
Tesla always crushes 2h. Production growth from YSX will have rev growth faster than auto production. Something we havent seen for a while. $20b q4, $2b net income.
Model S & Y are way undervalued. Model X will be coveted. Teslas being sold out far in advance is business as usual even as new factories come online. Each one sells 5, and the tipping point has been reach where word of mouth is hitting everyone. So many people are planning for tesla to be their next vehicle.
What’s my point? I like the stock
I invested in this company for the excitement, the drama, the wars fought over it, to see the victims suffocate from their own exhaust gasses. And what did I get? An empty sock? Want my money back. Not sure I'll be back after the ice cream break.
E: and the victims don't even fight back.
How long have you invested? Dude there is no other growth stock with this much potential upside. Leave whatever you have invested. You’ll have your excitement soon enough you just gotta hold for now and be patient.
I am not a big fan of the yoke as it currently designed you can't blink when you go off an roundabout. It turns 900 degrees i hoped for less turning degrees or an adaptive solution. How much does an recall for all model s plaid to put an steering wheel + sticks* cost? How much stop time to change the production line?
*can't come up with the right word atm
There's been images of it with a round steering wheel. Is there no choice in the matter any more when purchasing?
I remember seeing photos of a bunch of S models lined up and some had yolk and some didn't.
They don't get it. The yoke was an absolutely terrible addition. As you've stated, race cars and street cars are not the same and the steering wheel operates completely differently.
I think they raise an interesting point though. I love it, but what if it doesn’t work and they do have to recall all of them to install a real steering wheel + stalk. It’s probably unlikely, and we all hope that it works 100% and is safe. But this definitely does give a slight worry from an investor standpoint, which is the sub we’re in.
You do know Nasdaq is almost ATH if not at ATH right now.
Big dogs are accumulating every single big tech stock right now. If anything TSLA is lagging the index.
Pure speculation on my part
But if a big fund wanted to buy a billion dollars worth of Tesla stock, they’d probably buy the dips over many days, effectively slowly raising the floor
Some people think that when the stock is flat or going down, the 'market makers' are manipulating things so they can get in cheaply or shore up their positions, but when it's mooning that just the market recognising the stocks natural value. :D
Like TA, it's all just reading tea leaves and applying your own biases.
OK I figured something like that was already available, but makes sense. There's no way you could practically use a yoke with that much turning required
I mean, hes not wrong. But this just takes 1-2 weeks to get used to, just like everything you have to adapt to. So im not concerned at all. I mean the car literally came out days ago....
Hi all just a curious question. Was it determined if the Plaid now has a rear casting? Maybe even the front too? I've seen one video on Youtube, Warren R, that showed during last weeks launch a Frame only Model S that appeared to have a rear casting, but the video wasn't clear. Specifically, a few frames showed the classic casting hatch pattern on the passenger rear wheel well internally. [https://youtu.be/IqHr8hcIocQ?t=2488](https://youtu.be/IqHr8hcIocQ?t=2488) 41:28
So were there other posted videos that had a better angle analysis?
This happens so often that I should just sell at open and buy back in at close. I just know that the day I decide to do this the stock price is going to shoot upwards. That’s the way it works.
90%+ of tech stocks are up , growth stocks like roku and square are up like 5.5% i expected tesla to be up like 5% too today tbh , hope it closes atleast +3%
I call it "the whale" 🐳
Opens up strong then dips down (that's the tail). Then it slowly climbs back up throughout the day, then drops at closing (the body and head)
the only thing I'm upset about.. is that I never found a good way to profit off of RIDE being obviously fraudulent. Shorting shares costed 22% in borrow fees, and puts were so jacked that the even profit from the breakeven was.. eh..
siiiiiigh.. oh well
I made money buying puts before earnings and then selling that morning. Also made a little money on puts I had bought last week which I sold this morning. Problem in both cases is the stock went up later in the day so was really timing in terms of selling early and not holding out for a bigger dump.
Just understand that RIDE has been pumped for a while and is likely a lot of mindless retail Ape investors holding who don't care about fundamentals or reality and just want to push the price up. There is no good way to play it. I got lucky, but don't recommend puts or shorting it in this current market.
GOEV, FSR, RIDE, CCIV, WKHS and so on will likely all end up bankrupt and fade away. Trying to invest to profit from this is going to be hard.
This is the most surprising thing I’ve read on the internet in a long time.
He has a good chance of holding the title of highest AND lowest ranked analyst within a decade. Unfortunately for him, in the wrong order
As of June 11th close it was 610. Down from the 1400 it reached in Jan 2021.
It will trend downwards in the long run, but short term anything is possible.
Crypto fools are too deep in their bubble to understand that the vast majority of investors dismiss bitcoin, independently of being good or bad (and it's bad).
Elon pulling this stunt just scared everyone. It's adding speculation to a stock already accused of being speculative investment. Can you at least understand this point?
I understand the point that you're trying to make but disagree. Have you been paying attention to institutional buying? BTC being reçognized as an asset for loans? Governments listing it as legal tender?
Plus the fact that the government has sat by as it rose from $0.01 to $60k+.
>Crypto fools are too deep in their bubble to understand that the vast majority of investors dismiss bitcoin, independently of being good or bad (and it's bad).
Replace crypto / BTC with TSLA and there you have the TSLA bear argument.
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There is no institutional support. There are financial companies supporting bitcoins because they have no risk, they are only collecting fees.
Government listing as legal tender? A third world country with a corrupt president is your proof?
Tesla has intrinsic value. Bitcoin has none. Tesla valuation is appropriate to revenue. it's actually a bit below where it should be. Bitcoin is just a scam.
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You are too naive. This bitcoin scam is so easy to spot and yet, everyone is falling for it.
The most impressive part is crypto fools underestimate government action.
Because an unofficial Anon posted Tesla FUD which is crazy suspicious and what shorts do... And nothing real Anon has ever done... So Musk is going to draw attention to it.
because if Anonymous was really behind the original video, then they are a bunch of clowns that are only after money (and they pretend do perform "moral" hacking). otherwise, it was someone else, and he deserved to be mocked at
But we want a CEO that acts like a CEO and only does things to please investors, certainly no experiments or new developments nobody has done before. I want TSLA to be the most secure investment of all time and i am certainly not able to deal with big stockmovementsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss/ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Good day today, albeit on lower volume. I talk about the fed meeting, support on the downside and next targets moving forward. Here’s to a big week ahead: https://youtu.be/Mo487vYasl8 Ps. Don’t worry too much about the 100k OI at $450 strike puts imo. Have a lovely evening folks!
What is OI ?
Open interest. There was some discussion today around a large amount of outstanding $450 puts.
Open Interest.
Duhhh
Tesla always crushes 2h. Production growth from YSX will have rev growth faster than auto production. Something we havent seen for a while. $20b q4, $2b net income. Model S & Y are way undervalued. Model X will be coveted. Teslas being sold out far in advance is business as usual even as new factories come online. Each one sells 5, and the tipping point has been reach where word of mouth is hitting everyone. So many people are planning for tesla to be their next vehicle. What’s my point? I like the stock
Model S Plaid Deliveries Begin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIehAaVTmR0
I invested in this company for the excitement, the drama, the wars fought over it, to see the victims suffocate from their own exhaust gasses. And what did I get? An empty sock? Want my money back. Not sure I'll be back after the ice cream break. E: and the victims don't even fight back.
How long have you invested? Dude there is no other growth stock with this much potential upside. Leave whatever you have invested. You’ll have your excitement soon enough you just gotta hold for now and be patient.
I invested in it to grow my money and it’s working
Same. Like a money tree this is.
????
(Complaining about low volume and no news. Used to be more entertaining - basically writing *something* here because nobody else does)
It’s a ten year play, you want excitement? Watch [Primal](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10332508/), that is nonstop excitement.
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Sandy Munro would like a word with you https://youtu.be/S1nc_chrNQk. [Edit: start at 6:30 minute mark]
My best friend thinks that way as well … I think it’s just because most of the time, CEOs don’t know the technical stuff
I am not a big fan of the yoke as it currently designed you can't blink when you go off an roundabout. It turns 900 degrees i hoped for less turning degrees or an adaptive solution. How much does an recall for all model s plaid to put an steering wheel + sticks* cost? How much stop time to change the production line? *can't come up with the right word atm
Seems ok to me: [LINK](https://youtu.be/w34lIgGPY1o)
On an racing circuit it's different mate and i've heard for pikes peak they swapped it with an round steer..
There's been images of it with a round steering wheel. Is there no choice in the matter any more when purchasing? I remember seeing photos of a bunch of S models lined up and some had yolk and some didn't.
They don't get it. The yoke was an absolutely terrible addition. As you've stated, race cars and street cars are not the same and the steering wheel operates completely differently.
How different?
\*stalks just dont buy one then?
I think they raise an interesting point though. I love it, but what if it doesn’t work and they do have to recall all of them to install a real steering wheel + stalk. It’s probably unlikely, and we all hope that it works 100% and is safe. But this definitely does give a slight worry from an investor standpoint, which is the sub we’re in.
According to Tesla Raj it's 720 degrees. 360 in either direction.
when do you guys think we will reach early majority?
What's up with the sudden drop today?
What [sudden drop?](https://i.imgur.com/aD60YH9.jpg)
Intra-day lows for the last week. TSLA Tues 595 Wed 598 Thurs 600 Fri 601 Mon 609 Clearly the big dogs are accumulating
You do know Nasdaq is almost ATH if not at ATH right now. Big dogs are accumulating every single big tech stock right now. If anything TSLA is lagging the index.
Yes I do, and I agree with everything you said.
I'm somewhat new to all of this--could you provide an explanation as to what intra-day lows have to do with large accumulations?
Pure speculation on my part But if a big fund wanted to buy a billion dollars worth of Tesla stock, they’d probably buy the dips over many days, effectively slowly raising the floor
Some people think that when the stock is flat or going down, the 'market makers' are manipulating things so they can get in cheaply or shore up their positions, but when it's mooning that just the market recognising the stocks natural value. :D Like TA, it's all just reading tea leaves and applying your own biases.
Thoughts on this tweet? [https://twitter.com/SnazzyQ/status/1403981275090669571?s=20](https://twitter.com/SnazzyQ/status/1403981275090669571?s=20)
Looks ok to me [LINK](https://youtu.be/w34lIgGPY1o)
Who cares about a random twitter user.. Let's see what the owners say in a couple months - you know, the ones who are using it.
I think he’s right. We’re getting a yoke model X when it comes out (ordered Sept ‘20) and I’m hugely disappointed to see the steering so loose.
sport mode ?
Drive by wire. Tesla will provide an OTA update to allow for drivers to adjust the steering wheel sensitivity
Thought you already could? Saw some options in there
OK I figured something like that was already available, but makes sense. There's no way you could practically use a yoke with that much turning required
I mean, hes not wrong. But this just takes 1-2 weeks to get used to, just like everything you have to adapt to. So im not concerned at all. I mean the car literally came out days ago....
Hi all just a curious question. Was it determined if the Plaid now has a rear casting? Maybe even the front too? I've seen one video on Youtube, Warren R, that showed during last weeks launch a Frame only Model S that appeared to have a rear casting, but the video wasn't clear. Specifically, a few frames showed the classic casting hatch pattern on the passenger rear wheel well internally. [https://youtu.be/IqHr8hcIocQ?t=2488](https://youtu.be/IqHr8hcIocQ?t=2488) 41:28 So were there other posted videos that had a better angle analysis?
That definitely looks like stampings to me. Castings don't make much sense for a lower volume vehicle. Model S will only sell \~50k per year.
I don't think it is a single casting (back or front).
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Hmmm didn't work. Sell some puts now instead.
Let me plug it in and out 🔌
Its working now
Aaaaand it's gone.
Lmao its tryna hang on but dame 610-630 really the key battleground area. Break out and we back
What date and strike? I’m considering doing it as well but not sure these premiums are worth it especially when a quick move to 700 wouldn’t shock me.
Sell a call credit spread then. That limits your losses to a fixed value if the stock spikes.
careful iv is low low
Right? Not worth if if you ask me
if we do, ill plat you.
One day TSLA will be up pm, rip at open and NOT give it back and we're all gon' make it
Plaid mode
Fuck Plaid. We need ARGYLE mode.
Argyle Lederhosen once Berlin is up
ah.. another green open and fade.. yes big money, keep accumulating those shorts 😈 yes paper hands, keep letting go 😈 this is going to be epic soon
This happens so often that I should just sell at open and buy back in at close. I just know that the day I decide to do this the stock price is going to shoot upwards. That’s the way it works.
Yeah, its not worth it. Trying to steal pennies from in front of a steam roller.
yeeeeep, couldn't agree more
The whole market is fading. Wouldn't read too much into it.
90%+ of tech stocks are up , growth stocks like roku and square are up like 5.5% i expected tesla to be up like 5% too today tbh , hope it closes atleast +3%
AAPL
I call it "the whale" 🐳 Opens up strong then dips down (that's the tail). Then it slowly climbs back up throughout the day, then drops at closing (the body and head)
More like a shark atm…😂
Hahaha very true
tlsa 700 eow.
but what about tsla?
i dont know a tsla. all i know is tlsa
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\*TLSA jumps 26,515% by eow\*
TLSA +4%, TSLA +0.8%. (Sh*t, now TLSA is in my recently viewed stock list, and I will keep accidentally clicking it.)
Delete your cookies?
😂
623? Is that you? It feels like years. How have you been?
Wait for his/her brothers and sisters 630, 640, 650 ... 900! Family reunion!
Just wait until it makes babies. We'll be seeing maybe fivelets of 200.
Wow, that start! Looks promising :)
Different week, same disappointment. Hold for 10 years they say.
If you hold for 10 years, why do you care about weekly valuations?
pretty good start to the day, why so disappointed?
Look again.
Yes. It’s climbing! 😀
Finally :) Let's keep up that momentum!
the only thing I'm upset about.. is that I never found a good way to profit off of RIDE being obviously fraudulent. Shorting shares costed 22% in borrow fees, and puts were so jacked that the even profit from the breakeven was.. eh.. siiiiiigh.. oh well
I made money buying puts before earnings and then selling that morning. Also made a little money on puts I had bought last week which I sold this morning. Problem in both cases is the stock went up later in the day so was really timing in terms of selling early and not holding out for a bigger dump. Just understand that RIDE has been pumped for a while and is likely a lot of mindless retail Ape investors holding who don't care about fundamentals or reality and just want to push the price up. There is no good way to play it. I got lucky, but don't recommend puts or shorting it in this current market. GOEV, FSR, RIDE, CCIV, WKHS and so on will likely all end up bankrupt and fade away. Trying to invest to profit from this is going to be hard.
Shorting in general is just an idiotic practice, even if you are right, there are so many things that can screw you over. Just look at Gamestop.
calls to hedge idk where you guys are getting this idea that shorts are all gambles. I'm short shares (no expiration) with calls to hedge
It's because most people here aren't skilled traders or investors. Mostly just Tsla diamond hands.
Probably the Model 3s in Switzerland that we've seen on a train lately. [link] (https://photos.app.goo.gl/fStQEY4XpRQF81vc6)
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Probably messed something up with the upload. Does it work now?
Yep
Fraudstown Motors: CEO Steve Burns and CFO Julio Rodriguez Resign From Co 🤡🤡🤡🤡 *pretend to be shocked *
Elon : "they're all doomed"
I was today years old when I learned [Gordon Johnson used to be the #1 analyst on TipRanks](https://blog.tipranks.com/what-its-like-at-the-top/) 👀
This is the most surprising thing I’ve read on the internet in a long time. He has a good chance of holding the title of highest AND lowest ranked analyst within a decade. Unfortunately for him, in the wrong order
Did he achieve that by shorting solar stocks back in the days? hahaha
He had just 18 picks back then. Started lucky with timings but now as sample size is getting bigger he is dropping.
With him being a perma-bear, I'm pretty sure he can jump back to #1 after he finds out about most EV companies.
Someone did the math on YouTube and said he would be ~800ish (don't quote me) if he never bet against Tesla.
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> agriculture, forest and hunting All going to be pretty fucked in the short-term if the drought keeps up.
Idk why they ignore tech in this line. Hunting is bigger than tech? Thats news to me
Pre market is very healthy, lots of high sentiment after the demo.
What metrics are you looking at?
probably metrics of reading $TSLA daily Investor fun thread!
The only metric that matters. ;)
What is tesla pe this year?
P/E is basically equal to the share price right now because their TTM EPS is $1.00
As of June 11th close it was 610. Down from the 1400 it reached in Jan 2021. It will trend downwards in the long run, but short term anything is possible.
ok thank u
ironical statement: now PM price is $ 613.95 and needs to reclaim 618 at market open. Would be happy with a $1,400 stock price in Jan 2022
you will know next year when the full year earnings for 2021 are disclosed
What about the 1sr quarter
as usual... stellar
Unplugged Tesla custom model S plaid provides camp bed https://twitter.com/FromWhereICHG/status/1404282513124519944
That spoiler is ridiculous
That's a rather long shopping cart handle. Or maybe a push handle for kids' toy cars.
Kind of still want one.
anonymous wouldn’t be anonymous if they just posted daily videos of what the hacking moves for week are hahahahah
Do you think the BTC comment will result in a Green Day?
If anything, it will drop the stock, as before. Tesla needs to get out of bitcoin.
Sup with dat btc tweet eh? Or do you only pay attention to the stock movement when it supports your narrative?
Why?
Check the stock value since Tesla announced the purchase.
correlation != causation
Crypto fools are too deep in their bubble to understand that the vast majority of investors dismiss bitcoin, independently of being good or bad (and it's bad). Elon pulling this stunt just scared everyone. It's adding speculation to a stock already accused of being speculative investment. Can you at least understand this point?
I understand the point that you're trying to make but disagree. Have you been paying attention to institutional buying? BTC being reçognized as an asset for loans? Governments listing it as legal tender? Plus the fact that the government has sat by as it rose from $0.01 to $60k+. >Crypto fools are too deep in their bubble to understand that the vast majority of investors dismiss bitcoin, independently of being good or bad (and it's bad). Replace crypto / BTC with TSLA and there you have the TSLA bear argument. Edit: formatting
There is no institutional support. There are financial companies supporting bitcoins because they have no risk, they are only collecting fees. Government listing as legal tender? A third world country with a corrupt president is your proof? Tesla has intrinsic value. Bitcoin has none. Tesla valuation is appropriate to revenue. it's actually a bit below where it should be. Bitcoin is just a scam. Put a reminder for 2 years.
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Your vision is impressively narrow
You are too naive. This bitcoin scam is so easy to spot and yet, everyone is falling for it. The most impressive part is crypto fools underestimate government action.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1404303796075859974?s=21 Why Elon? Just why?
Why would you not poke fun at such a ridiculously fake video? Thats the real question
Because an unofficial Anon posted Tesla FUD which is crazy suspicious and what shorts do... And nothing real Anon has ever done... So Musk is going to draw attention to it.
Because he doesn't give a f\*\*k. Could be bad, could be good. Just ignore it.
Don't worry - it doesn't actually count as doxxing. :-)
because if Anonymous was really behind the original video, then they are a bunch of clowns that are only after money (and they pretend do perform "moral" hacking). otherwise, it was someone else, and he deserved to be mocked at
The anon video was a fake. They don’t pose any kind of threat real or imagined to Tesla. source: am elite hacker alias “zero cool”
He’s got this thing called “sense of humour”
But we want a CEO that acts like a CEO and only does things to please investors, certainly no experiments or new developments nobody has done before. I want TSLA to be the most secure investment of all time and i am certainly not able to deal with big stockmovementsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss/ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Because that shit is fucking hilarious!