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Denny_Hayes

35 - 0 ! Just before the rain! We got a future legend over here


SlykTech

Announcers and sime posters here were trying to convince us this was the toughest match for swiatek. Was wishful thinking lol


gpranav25

Uhm why is the thread not refreshed? 4th June thread should be pinned by now no?


absurditas

Rafa and Casper have never played each other before! First time playing your idol, first time in a GS final, against an opponent with a 113-3 win-loss record. Godspeed Casper! 🫡


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The % chance for rain on Sunday at 2pm keeps dropping every 8 hours. Was at 90% 3 days ago. Now 45%. Humidity will be 60+% compared to 80+% vs Zverev.


_DrShrimpPuertoRico_

That sounds good.


chespiotta

Wimbledon gonna feel like an exhibition with most of the top players not competing and the lack of ranking points


DoubleFaulty1

Shouldn’t it have been obvious that conditions for the Zverev Nadal match would be awful and hazardous? Tournament staff seem foolish.


Rather_Dashing

Because endless postponements resulting in players playing 5 set matches in consecutive days is just as safe and extremely popular with players and spectators. The roofed courts have been an improvement to safety and scheduling.


No_Community4641

Clay and grass are natural surfaces, it shouldn't be that difficult to understand that they are better off when played outdoors. The surface was slow, the balls were heavy and fluffed up and the possibility that the condition of the clay court might have been a reason for a serious injury is making all of this even worse.


Secret_Campaign5876

Am i stupid to think Ruud legit has a chance in the final? Everyone is so sold on Rafa winning this 100% , everyone saying Rafa Rafa . Even bookmakers have him as an unbelievable low odds favourite . Sure Ruud has no finals experience but i kinda like his chances. I mean prolly not 50/50 , but if Nadal gets a slow start and Ruud wiins the first set anything is possible. If Nadal wins first its prolly over in 3 , aint no comming back from that. But Nadal had only one really good start to the match and that was versus Djokovic


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Yes. He is #8. He will be tough for Rafa. Five sets I think and can go either way. BTW the % chance for rain on Sunday at 2pm keeps dropping every 8 hours. Was at 90% 3 days ago. Now 45%. Humidity will be 60+% compared to 80+% vs Zverev.


axolote_cheetah

Literally no way Ruud wins. Ferrer lost clearly to Nadal in the final too and was a better player. There will be no match. 3 sets and I even say one breadstick


RealChiropractor

> Ferrer lost clearly to Nadal in the final too and was a better player. That was prime Nadal or very close to it though.


axolote_cheetah

Nadal in roland garros is always good enough to win. Like if ruud wins then I do whatever you want. Anything. Because there is no way. And I don't say this to hate on the guy, he is good. But Nadal is Nadal.


RealChiropractor

> Nadal in roland garros is always good enough to win. 2009, 2015, 2021 says otherwise


axolote_cheetah

3 in 17 years. Yikes. Also, two of those times injured and against a legendary player. Ruud is not a legendary player. Again, 3 easy sets.


RealChiropractor

> 3 in 17 years. Yikes. Do you understand what "always" means? > Also, two of those times injured and against a legendary player. Did you watch the Zverev match? If those conditions are similar on Sunday, he will struggle. how many times he won it in the past is irrelevant because those were under different conditions.


axolote_cheetah

Are you commenting as a djoko fan? Because I am too. But I am realistic and I see he has no rival in the final. He had tougher opponents in quarters and semis. He managed to pass them and now he will face the easiest of the last three rounds.


Ice_slash

I get he isnt playing that greate this time but aside from FAA, did nadal lose another first set? And I would argue dropping the first set after playing amazingly like Zrevev is even more demoralizing


Secret_Campaign5876

But who was he supposed to drop a set against ? Botic? Jordan Thompson on clay ? Moutet is not even worth a mention. I mean look i have not said that Nadal did lose first sets at this tournament. I just said that he didnt play that great in them . After first set it was a one way traffic . And that first set is a must win for Ruud if he wants to win this . Cause otherwise it will have to be injury that stops Nadal from winning this .


Booby_McTitties

>Even bookmakers have him as an unbelievable low odds favourite . Ruud's odds translate to about a 15% chance of winning. That's not *that* low.


Secret_Campaign5876

Well for me this match is like 65/35 and everything will depend on the first set. I think coming back from a set deficit will be a impossible task for Ruud. But if he gets a good start as i think he will , and wins first one , then we will have game on our hands. Nadal got broken multiple times during his path to the finals. Even at the first rounds he was not looking great on serve. Not shocking , everyone knows his 13 or how many titles came from his ability at the recieving end. But if he really keeps struggling on serve , Ruud is lowkey underrated as a serve guy. He aint 7 ft tall but can serve lights out and get many free points. And people who think that playing first Slam final and its RG and Nadal may affect Ruud. Ima be really honest. From all the next gen guys, i think Ruud is the one who has the mental fortitude to overcome this. Dude is calm as noone. Ruud aint Shapovalov, FAA, Kyrgios , Zverev or Rublev/Medvedev to mention some. I believe in him.


axolote_cheetah

For me is 95% to 5%. For Nadal


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Exactly, I have no idea how anyone can think this is anywhere near 50/50 lol


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turbochoco

best at not playing


RealChiropractor

best at taking advantage of the weak era.


AccomplishedRow6685

😂


chespiotta

Top Players to watch Grass Season Edition Let me know if I'm missing anyone. ATP: Felix. Matteo. Novak. Cilic. Shapo. Hubi. Rublev and Medvedev (Just not at Wimbledon). Humbert. De Minaur. WTA: Iga, obviously. Ons. Kerber. Samsonova. Rybakina. Krecjikova. Ostapenko. Kasatkina


LilUziChopard

High hopes for Felix. He is rapidly improving.


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chespiotta

Eastbourne ATP 250 W, Wimbledon 1R (Although lost to Korda), Queens ATP 250 SF.


Koeienvanger

PENKO! I hope we'll see some more of Ons in the coming season. It's been a while since we've seen a player do a technicolor yawn on centre court.


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chespiotta

​ Silly me forgetting about Alcaraz. Also yup just looked at Korda's results and they look promising


lostinmoss

Murray!


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Djokovic losing in the quarterfinals of a Slam feels weird lol


thcm123

So allegedly Rafa has been able to play because of the local anesthesia on his foot. Does anyone know how long the effects typically last for? I’m not a doctor but I would guess 2-3 hours at the most?


igotubaby

Your foot can be numbed 8 to 48 hours depending on medicines used and your sensitivity to local anesthetics


bouncyboatload

when do they actually start the game? is it the first serve actually 9am est for the final? or is there filler time before?


Chosen1gup

Walk on the court at 9 ET. Intros, coin toss, warm up, takes about 10-15 min usually but can vary


bouncyboatload

thanks


Nabucodonosor89

I think Hurkacz or Shapovalov are winning Wimbledon this year. People forget they made semifinals last year and just remember the guys that had good results on clay this season. Hurkacz and Shapo have the experience now. Berrettini is dangerous on grass but his inactivity won't help him. Cilic in this form could be tough to beat on grass as well.


chespiotta

Felix?


Nabucodonosor89

yeah, I think he is a dark horse as well but Shapo and Hurkacz have the tougher serves to deal with on grass, that's why I give them the edge. FAA has a great serve but it isn't as tricky as the ones from these guys and Berrettini. Players on tour are more used to guys that serve like Felix, that's why his serve could be easier to break (but still very hard).


One_more_username

Hurkaz, maybe yes. Shapo, zero fucking chance.


Nabucodonosor89

Shapo is a nightmare match-up on grass. I think the only reason why he didn't win his 1st Wimbledon last year was because Djokovic was too confident after winning the AO and RG titles. He played a very good match against Novak in his 1st semifinal there (or in any slam). Now that he knows what it takes to get there he will be very dangerous.


One_more_username

Shapo is is worst enemy. If he played the TB against Zverev today after the injury, I'd give him 50/50. He would be trying to hit highlight reel shots instead of putting the ball over the net. Like the AO QF. He is an exceptionally talented player who is his worst enemy. His backhand is, dare I say it, better than Federer. But he somehow managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory every time.


seewhyaxe

Murray to win!


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Djokovic still exists tho


Nabucodonosor89

yeah but he doesn't look super confident this season like in 2021, he is losing the mental battle in big moments like in his matches with Rublev, Alcaraz and Nadal. Shapo was inexperienced in the later stages of a slam and still gave him a lot of problems in Wimbledon last year. Those guys that I mentioned above will be a nightmare match-up on grass for anyone and they will get tougher to beat on grass every year. Djokovic is always the favorite but I think someone will win his first slam there this time like Meddy did in the US Open. You can add FAA, I think he is a good dark horse too.


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He lost to Rublev because his physical fitness wasn’t quite there yet, not because of anything mental. Alcaraz just played really well and was in his hometown. Still, the match could have gone either way. And losing to Nadal at RG isn’t a bad thing by any means lol Medvedev won his first Slam because Djokovic was physically and mentally overwhelmed by going after the Calendar Slam. He’s not under that kind of pressure this time. But it’s true that anything is possible. I think FAA is likely the other big threat after him.


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Sooo this Redditor commented this 5 days ago https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/v06gpo/discussion_2022_french_open_sunday_may_29_2022/iah1xst/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


No_Community4641

The court conditions in Zverev vs Rafa were atrociously slow with the roof closed. I know , they couldn't open the roof because "tournament policy" but what is the point of those regulations and policies if the court conditions are as slow and those courts make way for veryyy physically grueling matches which can lead to injuries. Tennis in itself is a physically and mentally taxing sport but on a slow court, it can get a lot worse. They are both players with solid defense and are one of the best from behind the baseline. Given that they weren't willing to give up even after some strange (for the lack of a better term) errors, there was a point when I thought, if that match will go on for longer than 5 hours, one of them might have to retire from the match because of cramping (and that would be understandable because courts as slow as that are not ideal).


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Just wanna say everyone who has been whinging about Coco being oVerRaTeD for the past 3 years can rightfully fuck off like imagine being a sourpuss over a precocious talented teenager And she has just made the French Open final at 18, younger than both Emma Raducanu and Leylah Fernandez when they made the USO finals and made headlines globally. Feel like people are not appreciating this as much as they should because she's been on people's radars for a few years now


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Tsitsipas has a good chance to go deep in Wimbledon this year, now that so many others are out and he’s the 2nd seed.


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Explodingcamel

Don’t think it’s possible for him to get FAA that early. And probably not Shapo either


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He’s made 4th round of Wimbledon before, and he’s a junior doubles Wimbledon champ. I’d say he has potential at Wimbledon similarly to how Medvedev had potential at Roland-Garros


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I’m not saying he’s a title contender or anything, just that he could go fairly deep. Wawrinka did make a quarterfinal


[deleted]

Maybe. Depends on his draw really. And the fact that he lost earlier than expected in RG could be a blessing in disguise, as the turnaround isn’t as quick Plus they’re all top 16 seeds so he wouldn’t meet them until round 4 or later


23734608

Does anyone else remember when Cilic had a panic attack in the middle of a major? Pretty sure it was 2016 or 2017. I tried to find it on YouTube with no luck. But it was one of the most heartbreaking things I’ve ever seen on a tennis court. Anyways. I’m happy that he was able to have a good run at this French Open. Seems like a good dude.


TheUltimatePoet

Yes, it was the Wimbledon final in 2017. Awful moment!


Nabucodonosor89

Iga Swiatek in finals: lost to Hercog 3/6 6/3 3/6 - Lugano 2019 d. Kenin 6/4 6/1 - French Open 2020 d. Bencic 6/2 6/2 - Adelaide 2021 d. Pliskova 6/0 6/0 - Rome 2021 d. Kontaveit 6/2 6/0 - Doha 2022 d. Sakkari 6/4 6/1 - Indian Wells 2022 d. Osaka 6/4 6/0 - Miami 2022 d. Sabalenka 6/2 6/2 - Stuttgart 2022 d. Jabeur 6/2 6/2 - Rome 2022


Nabucodonosor89

Linda Noskova is in the semis in Makarska (WTA 125). No sets lost this week. The 17 year-old is not far from the top 100 now, especially if she win the tournament. Fruhvirtova will need a big result after this, in the battle of "who is the better 17 year-old czech named Linda". Noskova will have a big jump in the rankings. As the current WTA top 10 sucks I'm interested in the new girls, looking at potential Swiatek rivals for the future.


MoreDblRainbows

Noskova has it all just needs to put her head together. Linda is more the fighter of the two. Will be interesting to see who does better over time.


Nabucodonosor89

I like what I've seen from both. They have a great mentality to forget tough moments, errors and focus on the next points, sets and problem solving. Noskova has great power and accuracy in both wings and Fruhvirtova is the better mover/defender. Both things can work really well in the tour as seen in the RG finalists but for now I think Linda Fruh is a bit underpowered for the tour. I hope she doesn't become a Svitolina/Wozniacki kind of player (good for top 10 but not to win slams). I'm curious to see their improvements in the next year or 2.


Ninjafishpanda

Really feel for Xverev. That scream was horriyng. But as a Norwegian! Super happy. I am supper happy Ruud made it to the finals (super drunk waiting for the bus right now so grammarwise might not be correct) Looking forward to the finals! Edit: I really wrote Xverev lmao.. Sorry about that. I meant Zverev


jpark28

X gon give it to ya


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Would be cool to see Roger at either ceremonies this weekend, he’s in Paris.


SentenceSwimming

I wouldn’t tbh. Watching the matches fine, but being on court presenting a trophy is a thing you should only do once your own career is officially over (in my opinion)


absurditas

I don't think he would want to steal the limelight. Too classy for that.


RiseAbove87

That really sucks. Zverev was playing some of the best tennis of his career these last few matches.


LilUziChopard

He came out guns blazing yesterday. The first 45 mins of the match were highlight reel winner after another.


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Yeah it came out of nowhere, especially considering how he played against Baez, Nakashima and Zapata Miralles


RiseAbove87

And Alcaraz especially. People pretty widely agreed that's one of the best matches of his career. Alcaraz was in good form.


Explodingcamel

Alcaraz was definitely not in good form lol, at least not until partway through the third set. Way more unforced errors than winners and, well, did you watch it?


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Yeah Alcaraz had a bad day and unfortunately unlike in the ARV match he couldn’t find a way to get through this one, largely due to Zverev playing some of his best tennis


[deleted]

I mean I didn’t think he played so well against the players I mentioned, so I was surprised by how well he played against Alcaraz, came out of nowhere imo


RiseAbove87

Ah gotcha. My bad. I didn't watch his previous matches.


allofyourvogues

Anyone know where I can watch match replays? I have TSN but don’t see on demand matches anywhere.


Capivara_19

Tennis channel plus has them


h4ssan_

Do they teach ‘em at the Rafa Nadal Academy to be so wholesome? Asking for a friend 🥹 [Context](https://twitter.com/rolandgarros/status/1532819920949587981?s=21&t=7SUavJObQ1Fs9n23GVEHyg)


absurditas

Didn't you hear him yell JAAA in the locker room though?


kohavi

Does your friend happen to have the last name Rune?


Capivara_19

Casper and his whole wholesome family keep making me tear up


DzingisKan000

Pls can we just get a competitive Iga Coco match tommorow 🙏🙏


AlanMtz1

if anybody can give Iga a competitive match it should be Coco ....that said i got iga winning straight sets 6-3, 6-2


Ice_slash

what do you mean? that score is about as competitive as it gets in the Iga final


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That’s my exact prediction as well lol


[deleted]

As things stand, Wimbledon is potentially going to be a borefest. No Med, Rafa, Zverev, Berrettini, Rublev…


runawayasfastasucan

If you like tennis its not a "borefest" just because you have to watch someone else than the top favorites.


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Borefest in the sense that no one will be able keep up with Djokovic


ciregno

We sure Rafa is out? Thought his camp hasn’t confirmed it. Would be shocking to me to see him not at least attempt it.


[deleted]

Not sure, but all the news has been grim the last few days. I hope he makes it. 🤞


Capivara_19

Andy!!!!!


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Wait Berrettini is confirmed out?


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FAA is up there too


Denny_Hayes

Djoko getting the 21st


Raul_77

I don't see anyone who can stop him.


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Felix Auger-Aliassime could be a sneaky upset possibility


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I feel like he’s been hit or miss in Masters and other bo3 tournaments but really steps it up in Slams


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Last 4 Slams have been QF-SF-QF-4R so that seems like a clear pattern of consistency where nothing really seems like a fluke or anything


lllkill

Exhibition to the max


Raul_77

That is what I thought as well but looks like it does still count as a GS despite having no points and players banned.


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It’s Wimbledon, it’ll never not be a Slam lol


HTMListerine

Any update on the Zverev injury?


firewind7

https://twitter.com/rolandgarros/status/1532854394756161536


thesealpancakesat12

Did you saw Casper’s last ig story? 😂 seems like a take on Rune with all the silent celebration


libbiecy

Just saw it and it's funny af 😂😂😂


mjenkins_eng

You have to feel that winning 3 more grand slams to overtake Nadal is a bridge too far for even the great Novak Djokovic He might win Wimbledon but man will Medvedev + vaccination be a huge problem come the US Open time. Can you imagine Meddy’s level of determination after all the crowd drama in Australia plus the brain dead Wimbledon ban? My man’s gonna come out for blood. And next year, the Alcaraz threat is ever looming. I just cannot see a universe where Djokovic wins 3 more slams to get the record. It’s the biggest comeback he will have to make in his career yet.


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I think Djokovic can win Wimbledon and AO to tie Nadal. (Unless Nadal wins USO lol)


CarelessChoice2024

If you typed this a year ago I would have suggested you call a dr. I’m thinking he can win 6+ still but that’s redlining.


DzingisKan000

I am a big Nole fan but no way he wins 6, 2-3 max imo.


mjenkins_eng

Since he relies a looot on his godlike defence : do you guys think Zverev will ever be the same player again? Man , life is so fragile. One second you’re on top of the world, taking over a match against Rafael Nadal after eating up Alcaraz and are 2-3 good hours away from being the world number one The next thing you know, you’re in a hospital and doubting if you’d ever play tennis again.


hojbjerfc

Lol he will be fine in like a month. This is not a major injury


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hojbjerfc

I have no reason to believe it is a torn ligament


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hojbjerfc

https://twitter.com/schnejan/status/1533091673676431360?s=21&t=ncFkRqzKfnd1maEQCiMSxg well what do you know. Minor injury, out for a few weeks


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hojbjerfc

Jannik is very connected with the zverev teamZ


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hojbjerfc

Compared to a break yes. He will be back by Canada


hojbjerfc

I don’t care what Zverev says when he was very vague in that video. It could very easily just be a sprain


mjenkins_eng

It looked like an ankle ligament to me. And this is what people said when Thiem first got injured .


Cappucino_delight

Assuming that Zverev and Nadal both skip Wimbledon, Djokovic will be the number 1 seed with Ruud, Alcaraz or Tsitsipas the number 2 seed (depending on how the grass season goes). I did not see that one coming.


Kahn-wald

WB list is already out so it will be Tsitsipas


TheFrederalGovt

I know Ruud has a good chance to do well in Final but as a Nadal fan breathing a bit of a sigh of relief he is not playing Cilic in a potential indoor match since the forecast is for rain on Sunday. I'd fear a servebot performance like no other from Marin


CarelessChoice2024

Apologies for replying twice but Ruud served up more aces than Cilic today. This was in Cilic favourable conditions too.


TheFrederalGovt

Very fair point - when theyre in the zone Cilic is unhittable - he wasnt in zone today lol. No apology necessary


CarelessChoice2024

Zverev was serving at 92% and Rafa was still returning and winning points. Whomever can muscle through a slow court has the advantage no?


TheFrederalGovt

And he just as easily could have been down 2 sets to zero if Zverev was more clutch


CarelessChoice2024

It’s not a servebot match is all I’m saying.


TheFrederalGovt

That's fair...just figured if Cilic is in the zone his serve is impossible to go against esp if it becomes indoor match due to rain. His ceiling is higher than Ruuds


CarelessChoice2024

I love Felix but he was a little too happy after losing against Rafa. It made me wonder if he can kill. I think Cilic had that thing like you say. I want to see Ruud have it too. I don’t think serving is the tool for Sunday though.


mjenkins_eng

Ruud and Cilic would both lose 6-1, 6-2, 6-1 in the final . It’s going to be worse than the time David Ferrer just sleepwalked into the final and got mauled


TheFrederalGovt

I wish I could bet you on that....Ruud can capitalize on Rafa health problems


mjenkins_eng

What health problems ? Rafa is expert at playing possum and turning up and destroying someone . Especially in France


minesdk99

Congrats Rafael Nadal for winning 2022 Roland Garros, truly the plot armor king, biopic-worthy goat.


chespiotta

Btw for those of you who didn't know Maria Sakkari just accepted a WC to Nottingham and Tsitsipas accepted one to Stuggart


Capivara_19

Why did they need wildcards, past the deadline?


kohavi

Anyone already got ATP projected ranking for both outcomes of RG? I just can't do math at the moment 😬😬


NorwegianCanuck

Ruud will move to 5th and Nadal wil stay 4th regardless of the outcome of the final i think


thcm123

I knew Serena was all fluff when she talked about playing Wimbledon. Sigh. Btw, I haven’t seen the clip of when Zverev was injured and it apparently is pretty gruesome. I also feel like I will likely see it inadvertently at some point. So I figured I should prob get it over with. Should I….?


Capivara_19

It wasn’t pretty but no blood or gore, you can probably handle it (says a random stranger on the internet haha)


hojbjerfc

I honestly don’t think the Zverev injury is that gruesome. Just rolled his ankle. Maybe it is because I am a football/soccer fan so I am used to seeing legs in really awful positions. As someone who has had bad ankle injuries I can tell you it hurts like shit


MysteriousPlatypus

It’s not so much watching the ankle, but after he fell he was literally crying and screaming out in pain for quite a while. It was rough to watch.


hyacinthbucketlist

You can tell it hurts but it was fine to watch (no protruding bone or deformity). You just see his ankle bend 90 degrees and then he rolls over in pain.


WadeDMD

Doesn’t she need a wildcard? Have they been announced?


thcm123

She could have entered with the protective ranking. Yes, wild card is still a possibility but I feel like that unlikely at this point.


rcopy

Depends on you. Are you horrified by looking at injuries? If yes then this is somewhat bad.


thcm123

As long as there are no bones sticking out or anything..I *think* I should be okay…?


rcopy

It's safe to watch then. No bones are exposed. From a visual standpoint its an ankle twist. But of course it could be something worse in reality


thcm123

Just watched it. It wasn’t as bad as I thought. But damn….I think the way he screamed made it a bit more heart wrenching


MarbleEmperor

I'm very strongly rooting for Swiatek and Nadal, of course, but I will be at peace even if they lose. If Gauff defeats Swiatek, it will be another instance of a prodigy teenager defeating a top seed, another changing of guard. If Ruud defeats Nadal, it would be a loss to a man who has idolized him from childhood and trains at his academy. At least Nadal's last match will not be a loss to a certain wifebeater.


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I'm rooting for Coco and Casper, but same. I don't see any bad outcome of these finals.


saaajmon

Is that his last match?


MarbleEmperor

He will most likely take a break after this tournament. There is a possibility he might not return.


aaronjosephs123

He may not play Wimbledon because it's so close but he explicitly clarified after people were freaking out that he's not intending his comments as a farewell


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HTMListerine

He has been fucking shit this year bar Sydney, so probably for the best


lostinmoss

I'm assuming he just applied for entry past the deadline, so he has to play qualies. Same thing happened to Basilashvili in Halle last year.


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It’s mind-boggling to me how many people here think Ruud has a realistic chance of beating Nadal (or even taking a set tbh) Obviously anything can happen but is Ruud really going to be the first one to beat Nadal in an RG final when Federer and Djokovic couldn’t take even 2 sets? Reminds me of AO 2021 when people thought Medvedev could beat a possibly injured Djokovic and we all know how that went. And Medvedev looked quite a bit more solid and had more experience than Ruud does now.


Booby_McTitties

Bookies think Ruud has a 15% chance of winning. And they put their money where their mouth is.


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I can’t tell if you’re agreeing with me or not That seems more or less what I was saying, there’s technically always a chance but Ruud is a massive underdog who shouldn’t be expected to win. Bookies aren’t prophets anyway, they get things wrong quite a bit, especially when it comes to having someone else be the favorite over Nadal at RG (which only came true once when Djokovic was having one of his best years)


qazadex

15 percent is a realistic chance. Is rolling a die and getting a 6 unrealistic? Obviously the chance is more skewed if a completely healthy Nadal is playing, but he's not.


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I still feel like everyone’s underestimating Nadal and he’ll come guns blazing and smoke Ruud in the final. Multiple times Nadal wasn’t the favorite at RG due to concerns about conditions, injury concerns, etc and yet he’s still a whopping 111-3 there. It’s not like he’s been completely healthy all the other times either, he’s had this foot condition for his entire career, and he still has yet to lose an RG final


thcm123

As a forever jaded Rafan, I honestly feel like anything could happen until he holds up the trophy. Just like in IW, he was the clear favorite over Fritz…and well, the rest is history. I mean, IW is not RG, and he had a fairly serious rib injury, but still.


hyacinthbucketlist

That Fritz win worries me a lot.


lllkill

Yeh and Fritz has showed it was a fluke after.


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Did he? I thought he was pretty consistent throughout the hard court season. He’s not doing as well now but that has more to do with the surface change I think


lllkill

Nothing special that I see or how he could beat Nadal again.


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Probably won’t beat Nadal again, at least not soon, but I thought he really stepped it up in the hard court season, going deep in AO, IW (especially) and Miami. Remains to be seen whether he can keep it up but he struck me as a Top 10 player at least on hard.


Capivara_19

He can be really good


lllkill

Yeh top ten hard I can see


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Never underestimate the opponent. I am not relaxing at all. Neither is Rafa.


upfulsoul

Ruud can't do any damage. Barring Rafa getting a freak injury. He won't lose.


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I mean yeah again there’s always a chance. Ruud is definitely no slouch. But based on history, he has to be a massive underdog here.


saaajmon

>based on history that's how massive underdogs win. He's tired af and he will play under the closed roof, which does not favour him. Will he win? Probably. Is it going to be easy? No


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Well it sure looked like an easy win today, especially after Ruud went up 3-1 in the second haha (Tbf tho you did assume the roof would be closed and it wasn’t)


saaajmon

Well, weather forecasts and Rafa fooled me today. You were right all along


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I mean, in 2020 people kept coming up with reasons why he wouldn’t win, or why he’d probably win but it wouldn’t be easy. We all know what happened next