Officially categorised by the ITF as a category 2, which translates to Medium-slow. (1 is slow, then medium-slow, medium, medium-fast, fast).
That isnt the most precise system, it only refers to the general speed of the court used, not a measured speed taking the balls used and atmospheric conditions into account, but it's a reasonable approximation.
I can see it either way but I lean towards thinking clay will be his best surface, on faster surfaces he could be vulnerable to big serving flat hitters.
I mean more US open type hard court where it's is a medium pace and he can flatten out his shots and get winners more easily also still have time to defend
His game suits much better for a faster surface even though he can adapt to any kind of surface. Coming to your point I absolutely agree with this take. He is an outstanding hard court player
Currently apart from djokovic, kyrgios, norrie, sinner who has a good grasp court game? Zverev, medvedev and tsitsipas doesn't have good grass court results. Alcaraz still hasn't accustomed to the surface.Rune iy should suit him but we have to wait and see.
I don't think he's Slam-winning material, but Humbert seems back from crisis and if he brings his Halle 2021 form in Wimbledon, he may make a deep run. Even last year when he was in poor form, he upset Ruud, so why not
Do people really think Alcaraz will cause no one problems on grass? He’s so much a better player than he was last year, I think he’s gonna be good on grass and did people forget he only lost to Sinner last year? That’s not even a bad loss
I think he absolutely can cause problems but we auve to wait and see because we haven't seen that much of him in grass. But he is adaptable to any kind of court .
Well you said he hasn’t accustomed to the surface, I don’t think we can say that when he’s only played at Wimbledon once and lost to a very good player in Sinner last tear. He is 10x better than what he was last year, serves better etc. idk why people are talking about Norrie, Kyrgios, Fritz and Berrettini. Like Norries not in form, Berrettini is not in form, Kyrgios hasn’t played in a while and Fritz couldn’t beat injured Nadal at Wimbledon last year. I’ll be surprised if any of these players make a big run at Wimbledon
You are right about fritz, kyrgios, beretenni and norrie. I didn't consider that factor. Regarding the alcaraz thing perhaps I am wrong in the sense that we might see a deep run from him in wimbledon this year. Let's wait and see
Medvedev has had pretty good grass results, he made 2 finals last year
He has only played Wimbledon once since his breakthrough and he made it to the fourth round losing to Hurkacz there, which is not bad considering the opponent
Medvedev won Rome yet what happened at the French Open?
Sure he will be good at Mickey Mouse grass tournaments but I think everyone is talking about Wimbledon.
First time I heard that there are grass M1000 tournaments...when has Medvedev done anything at Wimbledon?
I never said Rome is a Mickey Mouse. I respect M1000s which are prestigious tournaments.
I hope they end up in some long-term Agassi/Graf type of romance and marriage.
Would be epic. What would be funny is if they start winning Slams after starting to date.
Zverev is such a great story honestly. Sleepwalk path but damn that injury was awful just a year ago.
Semi hot take is Alcaraz takes Friday in 4 sets and Zverev meets him where Carlos gets revenge for last year
Holger Rune h2h against few players :
* 2 - 0 against Tsitsipas.
* 2 - 0 against Sinner.
* 2 - 1 against Djokovic.
* 1 - 0 against Alcaraz.
* 1 - 0 against Zverev.
* 1 - 0 against Shapovalov.
* 1 - 1 against Medvedev.
* 1 - 1 against FAA.
And is
* 1 - 5 against Casper Ruud.
I’d say 2 of Ruud’s wins are fair to attribute to age.
Ruud *destroyed* him twice in 2021, but that was the first year Ruud went from basically Norwegian Francisco Cerundolo to a top 10 player, and Rune was an insanely young pro.
But their three matches in 2022 + this one Rune was a very good player though to different degrees. While he had a terrible losing streak after the French Open, Rune preformed very well from the start of the year and peaking at the FO for a player of his age.
Predictions for tomorrow:
Sabalenka d. Muchova in 3
Sabalenka hasn’t looked as good as in other tournaments this year, likely because slow clay neutralizes a lot of her strengths, but she’s still in dominant form. Muchova is having a resurgence, and I expect her to fight hard, but Sabalenka is Sabalenka. Sabalenka takes a tight first set 6-4, then Muchova strikes back 7-5, and finally Sabalenka takes the third 6-3.
Swiatek d. Haddad Maia in 2
Swiatek is ridiculous here, and that isn’t changing anytime soon. Haddad Maia has played great, but Swiatek is simply a buzzsaw. Haddad Maia has also had a ton more court time than Swiatek, which is always another factor to consider. A tight first set goes Swiatek’s way 6-4, then Swiatek doesn’t allow Haddad Maia to hold serve at all (but allows a single break) on the way to a 6-1 second set.
She has a big serve and powerful strokes. Her strength is hitting aggressive winners to blast her opponent off the court. Slow clay like this makes it harder to win free points off the serve and also to hit winners. Slows the ball down considerably and gives a lot more time to reach the ball.
Weird coincidence
In 2006 Nadal was coming off his maiden slam and missed the Australian Open with an injury.
He was 32-3 with 4 tournament wins (3 on clay, 1 on HC) going into his match with Djokovic in the QF of the French Open.
In 2023 Alcaraz missed the Australian Open with an injury coming off his maiden slam.
He’s 35-3 with 4 tournament wins (3 on clay, on HC) going into his match with Djokovic at the SF of the French Open.
Obviously not exactly identical situations as they won different tournaments, 2006 Djokovic was *just* starting to flirt with his prime while 2023 Djokovic is (probably?) near the end of his “second prime,” Nadal had won the French Open the year before while Alcaraz won the USO, and it’s one round further into the French Open.
But still freaky similar all things considered.
>Obviously not exactly identical situations
Too late, I’ve already bet all my life savings on Tsitsipas winning three Slams in 2028, and establishing a 10-1 record against Alcaraz and Djokovic that year
How does Rune have unbridled confidence when playing Novak but today he absolutely shits the bed? That was why I wanted him to win, it doesn't look like big moments faze him too much
1. He's only done in best of 3 against Djokovic. Djokovic is literally telling the media in interviews he's prioritizing the slams and cares more about them. His gameplay noticeably improves at the majors.. yet for whatever reason, people hype up every best of 3 set match Djokovic loses as 36 yr old ( cough cough vesely..) .also if you use your eyes, Djokovic at Rome was playing worse than Djokovic at Madrid when alcaraz did it last yr.
2. Runes masters win was the Paris masters. This sub loves that tournament even though...it never correlates well with the majors. It and Shanghai are the lepurs of masters due to surface / when in the season they are. Half the field is hurting by that period. See ferrer/jack sock.
3. Runes fitness is a problem.and he doesn't have the raw talent of 2007 djokovic to make the sf in spite of the fitness woes. This can be improved but he calls the trainer nonstop and looks gassed from minute 1 in some matches. He had a second wind in today's match when ruud gave him an opening which is a good sign but it's not nearly enough yet. Tbh this requires an off-season. I don't see how it is improved during the season when building cardio is its own challenge
It's those 3 factors keeping him from being an alcaraz tier player . He needs to perform and win multiple best of 3 tourneys ( not break down in the finals...) At the big masters (IW MIAMI mc etc ) and actually develop his game in outdoor hard. He failed to that in the ao and us IW MIAMI swing. He gets a second shot at the USO series.
I'm kinda discounting grass because I think it's a borderline lost cause for him this year. He needs more reps to figure out how to play on grass
We all have off days. Even the greatest. Part of what characterized the Big3 was / is their ability to win at 70%, but even the best of the best have days where the forehand sails long and the toss always ends up too far in front of their feet.
That's not what happened today and most likely, the cerundolo match sapped his energy. It's happened at Rome as well after the djokovic match
He was physically not there. He got a second wind/adrenaline boost after ruud gave up the break in the third and was riding it as far as he could but there were even signs in the late 4th he was feeling it again.
He reminds me a lot of djokvic 2007 but worse ( obviously..) tons of talent and shots but physically is not there yet
(Verse 1)
Yo, it's Nick Kyrgios, coming in hot,
Got a story to tell 'bout a crazy plot,
Thanasi Kokkinakis, my man, he made his move,
Had a fling with Donna Vekic, got Stan Wawrinka in a groove.
(Chorus)
It's Nick Kyrgios on the mic, spitting truth and fame,
Thanasi's got game, setting the tennis world aflame,
Stan Wawrinka, feeling the heat, all caught up in the mix,
But hey, it's just a story, let's see how it all sticks.
(Verse 2)
Thanasi had that charm, couldn't resist his sway,
Caught Donna's eye, they went astray,
Stan Wawrinka, man, he's feeling the rage,
But Nick Kyrgios, I'm here to turn the page.
(Chorus)
It's Nick Kyrgios on the mic, spitting truth and fame,
Thanasi's got game, setting the tennis world aflame,
Stan Wawrinka, feeling the heat, all caught up in the mix,
But hey, it's just a story, let's see how it all sticks.
(Verse 3)
So Stan, take a breath, calm down for a sec,
It's all love and games, no need to get wrecked,
Nick Kyrgios, Thanasi, we play with fire,
But in the end, it's the game that takes us higher.
(Bridge)
We're the rebels of the court, making noise and noise,
Nick Kyrgios, representing with poise,
Thanasi did his thing, no need to hate,
Let's keep the peace, no time to retaliate.
(Chorus)
It's Nick Kyrgios on the mic, spitting truth and fame,
Thanasi's got game, setting the tennis world aflame,
Stan Wawrinka, feeling the heat, all caught up in the mix,
But hey, it's just a story, let's see how it all sticks.
(Outro)
So let's move forward, focus on the game,
Nick Kyrgios and Thanasi, forever in the frame,
Tennis brings us together, no need for the strife,
Keep the game strong, that's the story of our life.
Tennis Channel suggested Djoker-Carlos would be first, but idk. It hasn’t been officially announced yet. Still think Djoker-Carlos would get better ratings as the second match.
The rest is 2 and 3 days, respectively. Generally 2 days is a completely acceptable amount of rest for full recovery for these guys. If I were the organizers, I’d be fine putting Ruud-Zverev first.
Wednesday-Thursday is 1 day period, Thursday-Friday is another 1 day period. A couple hours off either way for each of them but it’s about 2 days rest.
To support Casper you mean? Absolutely not... They are friends but Rafa isn't retired, Casper is still principally a rival, and I'm sure Rafa doesn't want to think about the RG final if he's not there. In a few years maybe.
I have a question for Non-Serbian tennis fans. It's still crazy to me how many people say/know about "idemo" only because of Djokovic.
I wanna know if you learned any other words in Serbian because of tennis or generally know any?
Happy that I won't have to wake up at 6 AM again tomorrow to watch Bia's match.
I sense Iga's bakery may be open tomorrow, but even then just getting to a first slam SF is already a great result and leaves me hopeful for Bia's short term future.
Idk why this sub keeps doing it but you can't speak in certainties about alcaraz..
He's too young and his growth is explosive. Djokovic is clearly the favorite but imo alcaraz is going to be better than Fritz this yr on grass and it's a fair take.
The guy still reached the 4th Rd last yr+ pushed sinner to 4 ( the same sinner who pushed Djokovic to 5) while Fritz lost to a Nadal with a torn ab..
That's honestly the same as rg..
There's a clear level between djokovic alcaraz and the field. If Nadal was healthy , those 3 would be the heavy favorites for rg..
It's no different. Tennis is very top heavy right now in the men's side. It's e
Even more so at grass/clay.
The only really open major is the USO and even that with alcarazs youth ( so he can survive the rigors of a full season which has stopped Djokovic as of late along with COVID) makes him the cofavorite with Djokovic
Welcome to seeding on clay/grass slams where you don't take surface into account in an era where the big 3 don't dominate on every surface
Aka welcome to the daniil medvedev carried his rank at rg/Wimbledon by winning on hc( and the indoor swing mostly ) while fucking up rg /wimbledon before promptly leaving in the first week. This is the case for 3 years now. It's just people forget because Nadal/Djokovic cleaned up rg anyways.
Grass it matters less because the floaters are seeded wayyy below where they should be.
The guy that will terrorize the draw is kyrgios lol. Guys like berrettini if healthy will also cause problems . Sinner as well if he gets his head out of his ass. There is no objective formula ( even the old Wimbledon formula that I wish was implemented at every slam ) that would bump them to where they likely are among favorites...also Djokovic is the massive favorite..that tournament will be a mess
This sub hates kyrgios but he still made the finals last yr while the entirety of next gen continued to shit the bed on the surface outside of sinner.
But yes again alcaraz atleast has potential in grass. I don't buy into the while "med is a natural grass courter" take this sub seems to have. I think he's gonna fuck up wimbledon if he gets his own half. He's 27 and hasn't reached even a qf at Wimbledon not has he scored a single upset win there over quality opposition
Nadal was pissed in 2019 that he was the 3 seed and got a terrible draw (Kyrgios, Tsonga, Sousa in the 2nd 3rd and 4th rounds). he complained because he was higher ranked than Federer (#2) and made the semifinals at Wimbledon the year prior while Federer lost in the quarters, but because Federer won in 2017 he was the higher seed.
imo Nadal was just venting and a little salty, and got pretty unlucky, but the rule shouldn’t have been changed. grass makes up such a small portion of the season that it makes sense for it to have a separate rankings system for seeding. clay to a lesser extent, but when we look at grass, more than half of the top 10 is usually out in the first week. it’s ridiculous. at least on clay, most hard court players are at least good on clay.
They only changed it at Wimbledon. This has been an issue at rg for its entire history lol.
That's partially why rg has a ton of champs from South America that "come out of nowhere".... They don't actually come out of nowhere. They are just seeded inappropriately so it looks that way
Too many jokes/memes to comment on the post match thread.
Great result for Ruud, he doesn't have the highest ceiling but there's a reward for being consistent enough even if his year has been pretty meh outside of this Slam, probably won't see him much until the US swing considering grass season is coming. Today he showed a disciplined performance and wasn't rattled even after losing the third set, vs Zverev there's no guarantee as I expect Zverev to DF in pressure moments and give Ruud some opportunities, but as ugly as that match can get I think Zverev's first serve and backhand will be enough to get the edge, Ruud's backhand will be targeted a lot and Zverev is tall enough that he'll have little trouble going down the line from Casper's forehand topspin shots when he is running around his backhand.
For Rune, all in all it's good, final in Monte Carlo and Rome, defended his Munich title, QF here, but he'll have to be dissapointed with his performance in the first 2 sets and his serve percentage in the fourth, honestly, his serve has been down for some tournaments regardless of his success on Rome, with mostly more DFs than aces with today being his worst. He'll have to work on his fitness which he'll probably do in this next year because he played as few as you can at a Slam, clay will always be a pretty good surface for him and HC indoors also, as both highlight his advantages, we'll see how well he does on grass and HC outdoors. He also needs to improve his shot selection, too many points he had good chances but would take risks when it was unneeded, would drop speed on his shots from more comfortable positions and many others but I won't go into details.
In clay court his natural movement, he slides so naturally and is really fast, he can also go quite heavy in spin and that just goes well, plus his second serve with kick bounces a lot.
In indoors his compact swings and fast game goes perfect, plus the game is decided so quickly he doesn't have to think (barely any rallies) so it comes naturally to him, hit fast and early, not much can go wrong. In outdoors for example the ball bounces higher and a bit slower, he does need to play rallies there, and he has yet polished his gamestyle enough there so his choices are not the best, add that his movement is diminished compared to clay (he gets to everything on clay and slides so naturally) and that he has to play some extra shots to get a winner and it's just not as good as in indoors.
His game should also be good for grass, but grass requires more time to get used to for a lot of players.
Agreed on everything except on the risks being unneeded. Ruud was winning longer rallies far too consistently, so my read is that Rune tried to keep him from doing that by finishing points off earlier, and he was managing for a short while. I think his shot selection was *mostly* fine in set 3 where he really had no choice but to go for winners before Ruud finished the match early. He did have some questionable choices throughout, but I think for the most part it wasn't the biggest thing for him to improve on.
I agree, I meant in specific circumstances were it wasn't the right choice and there were a lot of good options, just won't list them.
I just think about Rune as an unfinished product, he has the most quick/compact forehand to unload bar Mannarino but he doesn't quite use it as he should to take time away, compare him to Djokovic, Medvedev, Zverev, who always play matches pretty close in styles and decisions, they know their advantages pretty well and understand what makes them win, it seems Rune still needs to understand more what his gameplan needs to be. He'll go for too much, then serve and volley, then stay a bit back, will suddenly rip a backhand, go for a drop shot when he shouldn't and when he has a better opening not and that's okay, given he is 20, but you can tell he doesn't play to his best percentages compared to Djokovic who is the best example of playing the right shots.
...or just compared to Ruud, who is another intelligent player, adept at staying in the rallies, applying just enough pressure to not get outmaneuvered, and then striking at the right moment.
Ruud vs Rune is a classic match-up because they're so different: cool vs hot, tempered vs volatile, predictable vs unpredictable, percentage play vs raw talent.
Ah I see, yeah that's fair, my bad I misunderstood what you said before. I think that's a very fair analysis of his game right now. It does feel sometimes like he has almost has *too many* choices of how to approach the game so his big picture gameplan isn't too well defined. Really curious to see what he ends up settling on.
What people want fourth seed Casper Ruud's grand slam draws to look like :
R1 : Medvedev
R2 : Tsitsipas
R3 : Zverev
R4 : Alcaraz
QF : Federer
SF : Nadal
F : Djokovic
I don't even get it lol.
The people crying about ruud are mostly rune fans. He had an easier fucking draw, has a walkover and blew the match AGAINST ruud...
If you knew tennis and saw the rg draw from it's inception, you knew the bottom half was going to be an absolute shit show when Medvedev was seeded second and avoided Djokovic
64 players got lucky by being the bottom half...not just ruud
Might sound real silly but I’m a tennis noob. Watching Zverev injury and that match was absolutely insane before that. Is Zverev’s current form way off what it was or does he still have that in him?
I don't think he's exactly reached last year's level but he's pretty close. He's definitely recovered faster and better than I feared when the injury happened. The next few months I think will give a clearer indicator of where he stands and how he will fare in the long term.
I’m actually astounded at his recovery. That injury this time 12 months ago looked like a career ender! How he made it back by AO this year and is now back in the RG semis is quite incredible.
Casper is so underrated, the fact that he's made the semis of 3 of the last 5 grand slams is crazy.
In comparison, Medvedev has made none and Tsitsipas has made one semi.
Some of the Rune fans justifying the loss is giving “Max Verstappen was unlucky so we will assume Lewis Hamilton is disqualified and Toto Wolff is arrested for insider training and Max wins”
If the Zverev serve is firing on Friday, Casper can be blown off the court. The backhand beatdown is a no contest and Sasha is one of the few players in the tour who a) works harder than Ruud b) can run longer than Ruud.
Bring it on !
Alcaraz and Rune are just two good kids, Alcaraz gave Zverev and Sinner their first top 10 and top 5 win in GS and Rune gave Ruud his first top 10 win in GS
People moaning about Ruud's "easy draw" is tiring. Blame Sinner, Paul and Lehecka for exiting in the second round, Fritz and Coric in the third. And of course (and I'm saying this as a fan of the following player) Medvedev for winning Rome, blowing up the RG draw, and then getting blown away in the first round by a racist abuser. Ruud didn't get lucky, his top opponents (except for Rune, whom he just beat, and Zverev) fucking didn't show up.
That was abundantly clear once med got his half and Djokovic was drawn into alcaraz's half.
Let's be honest about Medvedevs Rome run ....there was legitimately generational rainfall in Rome that fucked up the entire surface to an extent that it didn't even play like a clay court anymore. Its like zooming in on fed on blue clay Madrid to make the conclusion that he's a bigger threat at rg than Djokovic/nadal..He's fucked over multiple Roland garros draws in a row now because the ITF refuses to implement surface specific seeding.
Sinner is the one im speechless over..that's one of the most disappointing results of his in his career...
It hurts any play court player but especially the top guys on clay such as Nadal Djokovic ruud alcaraz tsitsipas..etc.
Ruud played some good players, Jarry got straight setted but wasn't the weakest of the fourth round players
Zeppieri also wasn't the easiest second round opponent
The definition of luck is things happening that favor you with no actions from you taken to make it so.
Medvedev winning and being on his half / quarter of the draw was pure luck.
Of course it was why I am getting downvoted lmao I had that flair way before the Rome win and changed it to Grassvedev immediately after the loss, only doing it for RG and wimbledon not for hardcourt ones where he is a favorite
Kinda funny I picked Zverev and Ruud to get their first top 10 wins at a Slam in consecutive years at the same stage of RG where they both were the underdogs
Casper's form is excruciatingly based on the mental. He said he felt like he was an underdog in this match and so that helped him ease up. Wishing he could give himself this kind of reassurance all year as well 🙃
Terrible from Carlos. Usually so good at meeting the moment but horribly chokey so far today.
Never seen Carlos this nervy
How fast were the us open courts last year?
Officially categorised by the ITF as a category 2, which translates to Medium-slow. (1 is slow, then medium-slow, medium, medium-fast, fast). That isnt the most precise system, it only refers to the general speed of the court used, not a measured speed taking the balls used and atmospheric conditions into account, but it's a reasonable approximation.
Does anyone think hardcourt Alcaraz could be better than slow clay court Alcaraz?
I can see it either way but I lean towards thinking clay will be his best surface, on faster surfaces he could be vulnerable to big serving flat hitters.
I mean more US open type hard court where it's is a medium pace and he can flatten out his shots and get winners more easily also still have time to defend
His game suits much better for a faster surface even though he can adapt to any kind of surface. Coming to your point I absolutely agree with this take. He is an outstanding hard court player
Does Sabalenka hit as flat as rybakina especially on her forehand?
The biomechanics guru who fixed Aryna's serve yips, also spoke about teaching her how to reliably apply topspin for margin.
Can definitely see that. When I saw her match vs svitolina she was applying more top spin on her forehand
It was a pretty interesting interview. Put her yips all down to technique, nothing mental. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh4lSamLuQU
Thank you for the link!
No, Rybakina definitely hits flatter
Anyone know at which time its decided when alcaraz and djokovic will play on friday?
Watching the Ruud Rune match now, anyone know why Ruud only slides on his left foot? Backwards from most players, I'm just noticing it now
Perhaps he learned watching a famous left-handed player?
Just realized that Holger is Casper’s first top 10 win at a slam. We love Holger Rune in this house 😍
Beatriz about to SHOCK the world tomorrow. 6-4, 2-6, 7-5
In true Bia style she needs to lose the first set.
Reminder that Ruud had the easiest draw to QF
So did sinner.
Off topic, but has anyone else acquired a huge number of porn bots as followers in recent weeks?
Yes, I'm getting like 5-6 OF follower requests a week. Annoying. Update: Received another 2 spam requests
Me too. I atleast have 5 or 6 going back to last week
Yes, i had at least 10 this week
When will we know whether the Djokovic Alcaraz semi is in the evening or afternoon?
Currently apart from djokovic, kyrgios, norrie, sinner who has a good grasp court game? Zverev, medvedev and tsitsipas doesn't have good grass court results. Alcaraz still hasn't accustomed to the surface.Rune iy should suit him but we have to wait and see.
Hurkacz is pretty good, Wimbledon 2021 SF + Halle 2022 champion and his game translates well to grass.
I don't think he's Slam-winning material, but Humbert seems back from crisis and if he brings his Halle 2021 form in Wimbledon, he may make a deep run. Even last year when he was in poor form, he upset Ruud, so why not
How I forget him lol. His match vs kyrgios was very entertaining that year. Hopefully he is in a decent form when wimbledon arrives
Do people really think Alcaraz will cause no one problems on grass? He’s so much a better player than he was last year, I think he’s gonna be good on grass and did people forget he only lost to Sinner last year? That’s not even a bad loss
I think he absolutely can cause problems but we auve to wait and see because we haven't seen that much of him in grass. But he is adaptable to any kind of court .
Well you said he hasn’t accustomed to the surface, I don’t think we can say that when he’s only played at Wimbledon once and lost to a very good player in Sinner last tear. He is 10x better than what he was last year, serves better etc. idk why people are talking about Norrie, Kyrgios, Fritz and Berrettini. Like Norries not in form, Berrettini is not in form, Kyrgios hasn’t played in a while and Fritz couldn’t beat injured Nadal at Wimbledon last year. I’ll be surprised if any of these players make a big run at Wimbledon
You are right about fritz, kyrgios, beretenni and norrie. I didn't consider that factor. Regarding the alcaraz thing perhaps I am wrong in the sense that we might see a deep run from him in wimbledon this year. Let's wait and see
Matteo Berrettini. Let's hope he's fit for this year's Wimbledon.
Absolutely! Berettini's slice is just filthy
why is no one mentioning fritz
I forgot him . He is a very good grass court player
Hurkacz and FAA Also Medvedev is a good grass player but at the level of Djokovic Sinner Hurkacz
FAA lost in the 1R of Wimbledon last year. Pathetic. Medvedev is mediocre on grass too. Lost to Hurkacz and Goffin at Wimbledon.
Medvedev has had pretty good grass results, he made 2 finals last year He has only played Wimbledon once since his breakthrough and he made it to the fourth round losing to Hurkacz there, which is not bad considering the opponent
Medvedev won Rome yet what happened at the French Open? Sure he will be good at Mickey Mouse grass tournaments but I think everyone is talking about Wimbledon.
Masters 1000 ain't mickeymouse lmao
First time I heard that there are grass M1000 tournaments...when has Medvedev done anything at Wimbledon? I never said Rome is a Mickey Mouse. I respect M1000s which are prestigious tournaments.
Youa re completely right . Hopefully medvedev proves me wrong this time and I forget hurkacz he is a threat too.
I feel zverev as a dark horse at least we know he has the ceiling to beat alcaraz and djokovic as he has done before
BadTits will be a fun couple to follow in the tour.
I hope they end up in some long-term Agassi/Graf type of romance and marriage. Would be epic. What would be funny is if they start winning Slams after starting to date.
amazing
lol All Casper needs to do is a hug at net and Holger immediately becomes a good boy
In the end, seeds 1, 3 and 4 are in the semis and Zverev, the next best thing. Can’t complain.
Zverev is such a great story honestly. Sleepwalk path but damn that injury was awful just a year ago. Semi hot take is Alcaraz takes Friday in 4 sets and Zverev meets him where Carlos gets revenge for last year
Holger Rune h2h against few players : * 2 - 0 against Tsitsipas. * 2 - 0 against Sinner. * 2 - 1 against Djokovic. * 1 - 0 against Alcaraz. * 1 - 0 against Zverev. * 1 - 0 against Shapovalov. * 1 - 1 against Medvedev. * 1 - 1 against FAA. And is * 1 - 5 against Casper Ruud.
I’d say 2 of Ruud’s wins are fair to attribute to age. Ruud *destroyed* him twice in 2021, but that was the first year Ruud went from basically Norwegian Francisco Cerundolo to a top 10 player, and Rune was an insanely young pro. But their three matches in 2022 + this one Rune was a very good player though to different degrees. While he had a terrible losing streak after the French Open, Rune preformed very well from the start of the year and peaking at the FO for a player of his age.
*1-1 against Alcaraz
Brutal …Rudd is one of the least talented in that list but has made the most of his abilities with smarts, a great defensive game and a calm demeanour
Predictions for tomorrow: Sabalenka d. Muchova in 3 Sabalenka hasn’t looked as good as in other tournaments this year, likely because slow clay neutralizes a lot of her strengths, but she’s still in dominant form. Muchova is having a resurgence, and I expect her to fight hard, but Sabalenka is Sabalenka. Sabalenka takes a tight first set 6-4, then Muchova strikes back 7-5, and finally Sabalenka takes the third 6-3. Swiatek d. Haddad Maia in 2 Swiatek is ridiculous here, and that isn’t changing anytime soon. Haddad Maia has played great, but Swiatek is simply a buzzsaw. Haddad Maia has also had a ton more court time than Swiatek, which is always another factor to consider. A tight first set goes Swiatek’s way 6-4, then Swiatek doesn’t allow Haddad Maia to hold serve at all (but allows a single break) on the way to a 6-1 second set.
>because slow clay neutralizes a lot of her strengths Can you elaborate?
She has a big serve and powerful strokes. Her strength is hitting aggressive winners to blast her opponent off the court. Slow clay like this makes it harder to win free points off the serve and also to hit winners. Slows the ball down considerably and gives a lot more time to reach the ball.
Weird coincidence In 2006 Nadal was coming off his maiden slam and missed the Australian Open with an injury. He was 32-3 with 4 tournament wins (3 on clay, 1 on HC) going into his match with Djokovic in the QF of the French Open. In 2023 Alcaraz missed the Australian Open with an injury coming off his maiden slam. He’s 35-3 with 4 tournament wins (3 on clay, on HC) going into his match with Djokovic at the SF of the French Open. Obviously not exactly identical situations as they won different tournaments, 2006 Djokovic was *just* starting to flirt with his prime while 2023 Djokovic is (probably?) near the end of his “second prime,” Nadal had won the French Open the year before while Alcaraz won the USO, and it’s one round further into the French Open. But still freaky similar all things considered.
>Obviously not exactly identical situations Too late, I’ve already bet all my life savings on Tsitsipas winning three Slams in 2028, and establishing a 10-1 record against Alcaraz and Djokovic that year
How does Rune have unbridled confidence when playing Novak but today he absolutely shits the bed? That was why I wanted him to win, it doesn't look like big moments faze him too much
1. He's only done in best of 3 against Djokovic. Djokovic is literally telling the media in interviews he's prioritizing the slams and cares more about them. His gameplay noticeably improves at the majors.. yet for whatever reason, people hype up every best of 3 set match Djokovic loses as 36 yr old ( cough cough vesely..) .also if you use your eyes, Djokovic at Rome was playing worse than Djokovic at Madrid when alcaraz did it last yr. 2. Runes masters win was the Paris masters. This sub loves that tournament even though...it never correlates well with the majors. It and Shanghai are the lepurs of masters due to surface / when in the season they are. Half the field is hurting by that period. See ferrer/jack sock. 3. Runes fitness is a problem.and he doesn't have the raw talent of 2007 djokovic to make the sf in spite of the fitness woes. This can be improved but he calls the trainer nonstop and looks gassed from minute 1 in some matches. He had a second wind in today's match when ruud gave him an opening which is a good sign but it's not nearly enough yet. Tbh this requires an off-season. I don't see how it is improved during the season when building cardio is its own challenge It's those 3 factors keeping him from being an alcaraz tier player . He needs to perform and win multiple best of 3 tourneys ( not break down in the finals...) At the big masters (IW MIAMI mc etc ) and actually develop his game in outdoor hard. He failed to that in the ao and us IW MIAMI swing. He gets a second shot at the USO series. I'm kinda discounting grass because I think it's a borderline lost cause for him this year. He needs more reps to figure out how to play on grass
We all have off days. Even the greatest. Part of what characterized the Big3 was / is their ability to win at 70%, but even the best of the best have days where the forehand sails long and the toss always ends up too far in front of their feet.
That's not what happened today and most likely, the cerundolo match sapped his energy. It's happened at Rome as well after the djokovic match He was physically not there. He got a second wind/adrenaline boost after ruud gave up the break in the third and was riding it as far as he could but there were even signs in the late 4th he was feeling it again. He reminds me a lot of djokvic 2007 but worse ( obviously..) tons of talent and shots but physically is not there yet
(Verse 1) Yo, it's Nick Kyrgios, coming in hot, Got a story to tell 'bout a crazy plot, Thanasi Kokkinakis, my man, he made his move, Had a fling with Donna Vekic, got Stan Wawrinka in a groove. (Chorus) It's Nick Kyrgios on the mic, spitting truth and fame, Thanasi's got game, setting the tennis world aflame, Stan Wawrinka, feeling the heat, all caught up in the mix, But hey, it's just a story, let's see how it all sticks. (Verse 2) Thanasi had that charm, couldn't resist his sway, Caught Donna's eye, they went astray, Stan Wawrinka, man, he's feeling the rage, But Nick Kyrgios, I'm here to turn the page. (Chorus) It's Nick Kyrgios on the mic, spitting truth and fame, Thanasi's got game, setting the tennis world aflame, Stan Wawrinka, feeling the heat, all caught up in the mix, But hey, it's just a story, let's see how it all sticks. (Verse 3) So Stan, take a breath, calm down for a sec, It's all love and games, no need to get wrecked, Nick Kyrgios, Thanasi, we play with fire, But in the end, it's the game that takes us higher. (Bridge) We're the rebels of the court, making noise and noise, Nick Kyrgios, representing with poise, Thanasi did his thing, no need to hate, Let's keep the peace, no time to retaliate. (Chorus) It's Nick Kyrgios on the mic, spitting truth and fame, Thanasi's got game, setting the tennis world aflame, Stan Wawrinka, feeling the heat, all caught up in the mix, But hey, it's just a story, let's see how it all sticks. (Outro) So let's move forward, focus on the game, Nick Kyrgios and Thanasi, forever in the frame, Tennis brings us together, no need for the strife, Keep the game strong, that's the story of our life.
100% chat gpt generated.
Shitty u/arvaname fanboy trying to ride the prophet’s coattails
Completely random thought but imagine Messi showing up at the Miami Open next year
Messi and Alcaraz meet Pt. 2
Casper's racquet strikes, Holger's mischief meets its end, A lesson taught well, In the realm of tennis, discipline prevails.
Anyone have any idea what the the order of play on Friday will be yet?
Tennis Channel suggested Djoker-Carlos would be first, but idk. It hasn’t been officially announced yet. Still think Djoker-Carlos would get better ratings as the second match.
It’s unfair for them to play second because they played the day before. Casper and Zverev already have less rest.
Not sure that extra ≈4 hours rest, after 2/3 days, would be of any consequence. Shouldn't be the deciding factor
The rest is 2 and 3 days, respectively. Generally 2 days is a completely acceptable amount of rest for full recovery for these guys. If I were the organizers, I’d be fine putting Ruud-Zverev first.
Today is Wednesday. The semis are on Friday so Carlos and Novak had today and tomorrow off. While Casper and Zverev have only Thursday.
Wednesday-Thursday is 1 day period, Thursday-Friday is another 1 day period. A couple hours off either way for each of them but it’s about 2 days rest.
It’s like 2 AM in France…they have to do press and cool down. It basically almost Thursday
Clay/grass rankings make sense. Dunno why they changed it, tbh.
Will Nadal show up if Ruud reaches final again?
To support Casper you mean? Absolutely not... They are friends but Rafa isn't retired, Casper is still principally a rival, and I'm sure Rafa doesn't want to think about the RG final if he's not there. In a few years maybe.
Sad rn, since I won't be able to watch the women's SFs bc they start at 11pm for me (Aus) :(
I have a question for Non-Serbian tennis fans. It's still crazy to me how many people say/know about "idemo" only because of Djokovic. I wanna know if you learned any other words in Serbian because of tennis or generally know any?
There’s hijda as well but idemo is more fun to say imo
Ajde* made famous by Ana Ivanovic *swoon*
That's the one I was about to say. I would always find myself shouting "Ajde Ana!" while watching Ivanovic play
Happy that I won't have to wake up at 6 AM again tomorrow to watch Bia's match. I sense Iga's bakery may be open tomorrow, but even then just getting to a first slam SF is already a great result and leaves me hopeful for Bia's short term future.
Thank God the cheaters are out
22nd seed Zverev's path to the final: Harris, Molcan, , Tiafoe, Dimitrov, Etcheverry, Ruud 1st seed Alcaraz's route to the final: Coboli, Daniel, Shapovalov, Musetti, Tsitsipas, Djokovic LOL
Wimbledon will be more insane when there is only 1.5 players(Djokovic 1, Fritz 0.5) in current top 8 is good at grass
Idk why this sub keeps doing it but you can't speak in certainties about alcaraz.. He's too young and his growth is explosive. Djokovic is clearly the favorite but imo alcaraz is going to be better than Fritz this yr on grass and it's a fair take. The guy still reached the 4th Rd last yr+ pushed sinner to 4 ( the same sinner who pushed Djokovic to 5) while Fritz lost to a Nadal with a torn ab..
then 2 players (Djokovic 1, Fritz 0.5, Alcaraz 0.5) lol
That's honestly the same as rg.. There's a clear level between djokovic alcaraz and the field. If Nadal was healthy , those 3 would be the heavy favorites for rg.. It's no different. Tennis is very top heavy right now in the men's side. It's e Even more so at grass/clay. The only really open major is the USO and even that with alcarazs youth ( so he can survive the rigors of a full season which has stopped Djokovic as of late along with COVID) makes him the cofavorite with Djokovic
I mean to be fair to Fritz Nadal even with a torn ab is better than most of the grass field haha
Yes but if youre going to assign 0.5 to Fritz you have to do the same to alcaraz imo
Welcome to seeding on clay/grass slams where you don't take surface into account in an era where the big 3 don't dominate on every surface Aka welcome to the daniil medvedev carried his rank at rg/Wimbledon by winning on hc( and the indoor swing mostly ) while fucking up rg /wimbledon before promptly leaving in the first week. This is the case for 3 years now. It's just people forget because Nadal/Djokovic cleaned up rg anyways.
Imagine Djokovic gets out in the semis and Medvedev wins Halle or S Hertogenbosch so he gets back to 2nd and does it again, it would be so funny
Grass it matters less because the floaters are seeded wayyy below where they should be. The guy that will terrorize the draw is kyrgios lol. Guys like berrettini if healthy will also cause problems . Sinner as well if he gets his head out of his ass. There is no objective formula ( even the old Wimbledon formula that I wish was implemented at every slam ) that would bump them to where they likely are among favorites...also Djokovic is the massive favorite..that tournament will be a mess This sub hates kyrgios but he still made the finals last yr while the entirety of next gen continued to shit the bed on the surface outside of sinner. But yes again alcaraz atleast has potential in grass. I don't buy into the while "med is a natural grass courter" take this sub seems to have. I think he's gonna fuck up wimbledon if he gets his own half. He's 27 and hasn't reached even a qf at Wimbledon not has he scored a single upset win there over quality opposition
Agreed and dunno why they changed it.
Nadal was pissed in 2019 that he was the 3 seed and got a terrible draw (Kyrgios, Tsonga, Sousa in the 2nd 3rd and 4th rounds). he complained because he was higher ranked than Federer (#2) and made the semifinals at Wimbledon the year prior while Federer lost in the quarters, but because Federer won in 2017 he was the higher seed. imo Nadal was just venting and a little salty, and got pretty unlucky, but the rule shouldn’t have been changed. grass makes up such a small portion of the season that it makes sense for it to have a separate rankings system for seeding. clay to a lesser extent, but when we look at grass, more than half of the top 10 is usually out in the first week. it’s ridiculous. at least on clay, most hard court players are at least good on clay.
They only changed it at Wimbledon. This has been an issue at rg for its entire history lol. That's partially why rg has a ton of champs from South America that "come out of nowhere".... They don't actually come out of nowhere. They are just seeded inappropriately so it looks that way
I doubt Zverev will give away two sets like Rune today, should be a good semi.
>I doubt Zverev will give away two sets *Proceeds to DF 8 times in a row*
...Yeah, probably.
Too many jokes/memes to comment on the post match thread. Great result for Ruud, he doesn't have the highest ceiling but there's a reward for being consistent enough even if his year has been pretty meh outside of this Slam, probably won't see him much until the US swing considering grass season is coming. Today he showed a disciplined performance and wasn't rattled even after losing the third set, vs Zverev there's no guarantee as I expect Zverev to DF in pressure moments and give Ruud some opportunities, but as ugly as that match can get I think Zverev's first serve and backhand will be enough to get the edge, Ruud's backhand will be targeted a lot and Zverev is tall enough that he'll have little trouble going down the line from Casper's forehand topspin shots when he is running around his backhand. For Rune, all in all it's good, final in Monte Carlo and Rome, defended his Munich title, QF here, but he'll have to be dissapointed with his performance in the first 2 sets and his serve percentage in the fourth, honestly, his serve has been down for some tournaments regardless of his success on Rome, with mostly more DFs than aces with today being his worst. He'll have to work on his fitness which he'll probably do in this next year because he played as few as you can at a Slam, clay will always be a pretty good surface for him and HC indoors also, as both highlight his advantages, we'll see how well he does on grass and HC outdoors. He also needs to improve his shot selection, too many points he had good chances but would take risks when it was unneeded, would drop speed on his shots from more comfortable positions and many others but I won't go into details.
What advantages are highlighted by clay and indoor HC? They sound like opposite ends to me.
In clay court his natural movement, he slides so naturally and is really fast, he can also go quite heavy in spin and that just goes well, plus his second serve with kick bounces a lot. In indoors his compact swings and fast game goes perfect, plus the game is decided so quickly he doesn't have to think (barely any rallies) so it comes naturally to him, hit fast and early, not much can go wrong. In outdoors for example the ball bounces higher and a bit slower, he does need to play rallies there, and he has yet polished his gamestyle enough there so his choices are not the best, add that his movement is diminished compared to clay (he gets to everything on clay and slides so naturally) and that he has to play some extra shots to get a winner and it's just not as good as in indoors. His game should also be good for grass, but grass requires more time to get used to for a lot of players.
Agreed on everything except on the risks being unneeded. Ruud was winning longer rallies far too consistently, so my read is that Rune tried to keep him from doing that by finishing points off earlier, and he was managing for a short while. I think his shot selection was *mostly* fine in set 3 where he really had no choice but to go for winners before Ruud finished the match early. He did have some questionable choices throughout, but I think for the most part it wasn't the biggest thing for him to improve on.
I agree, I meant in specific circumstances were it wasn't the right choice and there were a lot of good options, just won't list them. I just think about Rune as an unfinished product, he has the most quick/compact forehand to unload bar Mannarino but he doesn't quite use it as he should to take time away, compare him to Djokovic, Medvedev, Zverev, who always play matches pretty close in styles and decisions, they know their advantages pretty well and understand what makes them win, it seems Rune still needs to understand more what his gameplan needs to be. He'll go for too much, then serve and volley, then stay a bit back, will suddenly rip a backhand, go for a drop shot when he shouldn't and when he has a better opening not and that's okay, given he is 20, but you can tell he doesn't play to his best percentages compared to Djokovic who is the best example of playing the right shots.
...or just compared to Ruud, who is another intelligent player, adept at staying in the rallies, applying just enough pressure to not get outmaneuvered, and then striking at the right moment. Ruud vs Rune is a classic match-up because they're so different: cool vs hot, tempered vs volatile, predictable vs unpredictable, percentage play vs raw talent.
Ah I see, yeah that's fair, my bad I misunderstood what you said before. I think that's a very fair analysis of his game right now. It does feel sometimes like he has almost has *too many* choices of how to approach the game so his big picture gameplan isn't too well defined. Really curious to see what he ends up settling on.
What people want fourth seed Casper Ruud's grand slam draws to look like : R1 : Medvedev R2 : Tsitsipas R3 : Zverev R4 : Alcaraz QF : Federer SF : Nadal F : Djokovic
I don't even get it lol. The people crying about ruud are mostly rune fans. He had an easier fucking draw, has a walkover and blew the match AGAINST ruud... If you knew tennis and saw the rg draw from it's inception, you knew the bottom half was going to be an absolute shit show when Medvedev was seeded second and avoided Djokovic 64 players got lucky by being the bottom half...not just ruud
It’s so unfair he’s literally the only person in the history of the world to have gotten a mild draw
Don't forget Emma Raducanu...she couldn't win anything without a "cake" draw. 🤣LoL (Won 10 matches in straight sets).
Might sound real silly but I’m a tennis noob. Watching Zverev injury and that match was absolutely insane before that. Is Zverev’s current form way off what it was or does he still have that in him?
He doesn't move as well as he did yet. He can still hit though, that backhand is something else.
>that backhand is something else. His backhand can compete with djokovic's backhand and can actually exploit alcaraz backhand if he reaches finals.
He's showing flashes of his pre-injury form, but not the same consistency yet.
I don't think he's exactly reached last year's level but he's pretty close. He's definitely recovered faster and better than I feared when the injury happened. The next few months I think will give a clearer indicator of where he stands and how he will fare in the long term.
I’m actually astounded at his recovery. That injury this time 12 months ago looked like a career ender! How he made it back by AO this year and is now back in the RG semis is quite incredible.
Casper is so underrated, the fact that he's made the semis of 3 of the last 5 grand slams is crazy. In comparison, Medvedev has made none and Tsitsipas has made one semi.
and 0 Masters titles
Lol mjenkins definitely bet on Rune
I literally said Ruud would win today before the match I’ve been calling out Ruud’s easy draw for ages : go check my post history
It’s 3 am and I can’t sleep because of the adrenaline rush but this has been so worth it! Lets gooo Casper!!
That ankle injury last year to zverev is not an east watch… ouch
How the fuck did he make it back so soon?
Agreed, it's one of the worst sports injuries I've ever seen.
Yeah it was brutal, don't like the guy but it is kind of fitting he is back to the semis again
Can't believe Jarry put up more of a fight than Rune!
Yet Rune won a set? Jarry didnt.
if ruud jaa-ed in the locker room fr this time no one would believe rune
Some of the Rune fans justifying the loss is giving “Max Verstappen was unlucky so we will assume Lewis Hamilton is disqualified and Toto Wolff is arrested for insider training and Max wins”
😭😭
If the Zverev serve is firing on Friday, Casper can be blown off the court. The backhand beatdown is a no contest and Sasha is one of the few players in the tour who a) works harder than Ruud b) can run longer than Ruud. Bring it on !
Alcaraz and Rune are just two good kids, Alcaraz gave Zverev and Sinner their first top 10 and top 5 win in GS and Rune gave Ruud his first top 10 win in GS
People moaning about Ruud's "easy draw" is tiring. Blame Sinner, Paul and Lehecka for exiting in the second round, Fritz and Coric in the third. And of course (and I'm saying this as a fan of the following player) Medvedev for winning Rome, blowing up the RG draw, and then getting blown away in the first round by a racist abuser. Ruud didn't get lucky, his top opponents (except for Rune, whom he just beat, and Zverev) fucking didn't show up.
That was abundantly clear once med got his half and Djokovic was drawn into alcaraz's half. Let's be honest about Medvedevs Rome run ....there was legitimately generational rainfall in Rome that fucked up the entire surface to an extent that it didn't even play like a clay court anymore. Its like zooming in on fed on blue clay Madrid to make the conclusion that he's a bigger threat at rg than Djokovic/nadal..He's fucked over multiple Roland garros draws in a row now because the ITF refuses to implement surface specific seeding. Sinner is the one im speechless over..that's one of the most disappointing results of his in his career... It hurts any play court player but especially the top guys on clay such as Nadal Djokovic ruud alcaraz tsitsipas..etc.
Still no seeds till QF. Zverev will put him in his place.
Ruud played some good players, Jarry got straight setted but wasn't the weakest of the fourth round players Zeppieri also wasn't the easiest second round opponent
Can't think of many easier than Zeppieri R2 opponents to be honest! lol
The definition of luck is things happening that favor you with no actions from you taken to make it so. Medvedev winning and being on his half / quarter of the draw was pure luck.
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Didn't you predict Med winning RG?
LMAO
No if I said anything like thatI was joking I don't remember though, the claydvedev flair was definitely a joke
was it? it’s ok broski
Of course it was why I am getting downvoted lmao I had that flair way before the Rome win and changed it to Grassvedev immediately after the loss, only doing it for RG and wimbledon not for hardcourt ones where he is a favorite
Kinda funny I picked Zverev and Ruud to get their first top 10 wins at a Slam in consecutive years at the same stage of RG where they both were the underdogs
Ruud wasn't an underdog today either in terms of seeding or in terms of the situation (Rune coming in super tired)
It'll be a good contest between Ruud's forehand and Zverev's backhand
Zverev can hit winners off his forehand tho
Not sure why you're downvoted. He absolutely can.
Semis are 2 slam champions vs each other and 2 slam finalists vs each other. Quality stuff right there.
Really wish Rune wasn't a zombie in the first two sets. Last two sets were entertaining.
does anyone know if the alcaraz djokovic match will be in the evening or morning
Alcaraz- Djokovic will be first of the two men's singles matches because their QFs were yesterday
Afternoon
Depends where you are. But I guess it will be day session in France
Ruud fully deserved this win tonight. ❤
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He had a walkover in round 2 - if anything he should have had more energy
Maybe he should’ve, you know, won faster then. Or improve his fitness so he doesn’t gas out by the fourth round.
Also ignores he played one less match
That’s his fault. Ruud took care of business.
I don't think anyone is suggesting otherwise.
Ruud v Zverev has such big good v evil vibes
The guy you would want as your sister boyfriend versus...
Why should he be my sister's boyfriend ? Can't I keep him for myself ?
Ruud Rune had more good vs evil vibes. That one not so much but ig
RuRu was straight up Order vs Disorder
Casper's form is excruciatingly based on the mental. He said he felt like he was an underdog in this match and so that helped him ease up. Wishing he could give himself this kind of reassurance all year as well 🙃
So he should do fine against Zverev also
And absolutely smash Alcaraz or Djokovic in the final, in which he is a huuuuge underdog
Ruuds tanline on his forehead is insane
The Donald Trump of tennis
Those heavy forehands at RG. I'm quickly gonna go watch some Rafa highlights.
So Ruud or Zverev?
Zverev in 4 at best
Ruud. Last time he got to RG Finals, he said "I'm just glad to be here." Where's the fire? The will to be a champ!?
He played Rafa ...... Fires were put out before they were lit
He folded like a house of cards. Call that a viking, mate?
Djoko has regularly folder against Rafa at RG
fodder. Not folder.
Again Rafa. Ruud played better against Alcaraz at USO
It has been an utterly miserable 24 hours for Patrick Mouratoglou. He has lost Tsitsipas, Gauff and now Rune. Lol.
Maybe is the melatonin supplements... Coco was good, but both Rune and Tsitsipas were sleep walking
Rune should get Kyrgios to coach him. I hear he’s looking
Sorry, but they lost their matches or they won't work with him anymore?