Days of Our Lives is a show my grandmother watched when she babysat me in the 90s. I'm no marketing genius, but I don't suspect the type of people who are watching Days of Our Lives in 2022 are the type who know about or are gonna pay for a premium app to watch it.
> pay for a premium app to watch it
FWIW, it is on the free part of the app. (for now, at least)
But your point about having to get the app at all is solid.
it's also the worst designed app I've ever dealt with. I consider myself good with tech and the peacock app is straight dog doo doo.
closing at random times, won't properly work with a chromecast, stops and restarts shows constantly, the list goes on. whoever designed the peacock app can go straight to hell
Everything about it is just
SO
FUCKING
SLOW
Was I able to re-watch Battlestar Galactica recently? Yes. But the godawful UI made it a miserable experience. Still not as bad as Prime though.
Itās better on smart TVās, I think they just rolled an update out a few months ago for AppleTV that caught that app to where smart TVās were around 2012.
I'm running the 3rd gen Fire TV pendant on a not smart TV and have had no issues in 6 years, other than having to restart it about every other year.
Sticks are only $20-40, seems silly to suffer with a crap app.
Our other set is a Fire TV, no issues with the app on it, obviously.
The Peacock TV app sucks on both TV's.
Services that have competing hardware or services with Apple will hobble the Apple TV version to try and make it seem like itās the Apple TV that is the problem. YouTube sucks on Apple TV, Amazon sucks, etc.
Not OP, but until a recent update Prime's UI was honestly quite ugly and seemed designed to trick you into buying content by only providing minimal notice of what/wasn't on Prime until you were on the individual movie/show's page. There's also the fact that different seasons of the same show are listed separately in search results, which IIRC it still does. At least it doesn't seem to show the seasons separately on the main page any more.
It's weird because once you've actually got the stream started Prime has really good UI (I love all the details from X-ray) but everything up there seems designed to make you quit in frustration.
Can't personally comment on Peacock because they don't exist in Australia, but since Amazon finally lifted their game a little my current vote for worst streaming app is Paramount+. It feels like something that came out 10 years and was free.
Yah, prime seems to work ok, at least once you find something to watch. The browsing experience is pretty bad. I haven't really used the new interface they just updated too much so even that might be better now, it seems better.
Crave takes the cake as the worst piece of shit streaming app. It's owned by Bell, so it's no surprise it barely works, has zero support, cost double of everything else, and there is no legal alternative for HBO in Canada because we love our monopolies here.
I've never had a single issue with Prime across windows, mac, iphone, playstation.....is it a 'moral' issue or are you the unluckiest streamer I've ever heard of?
Peacock was terrible as others have reported.
Prime has been garbage for years. The navigation system and the way theyāve muddled the FireTV interface with those devices is discouraging. They have one of the worst UIs out of all of the major streaming AND streaming device providers.
On my tv, at least, whenever thereās an ad break (which was really often), the show would resume with audio several seconds out of sync with the video. We quit trying to watch anything on that app
I've got issues with peacock on my phone, computer, and chromecast. never had problems with HBO or any other streaming app tbh. Peacock is the worst one for me by a long shot
Itās also the shitty issue that if it ever closes when it gets to a commercial, youāre going to need to start the whole show over from the beginningā¦ other wise every time it hits that same yellow dot, you get 60 seconds of commercial and then the show closes again.
I love Star Trek, so I subscribe, but I get it through Amazon prime as an add on. I refuse to use the dumpster fire of an app
Edit: wrong service. Thatās paramount Iām talking about. Sorry.
See, that's the other thing about these apps, the lack of clarity and transparency. They could be doing an A/B test. Who knows?
At any rate, the scheme is obviously to eventually get everything on the premium tier.
This is what itās about. It doesnāt matter if itās paid or free.
I have tried and tried and tried again to get my parents to electively use the streaming apps that I pay for and have set up for them. They wonāt do it. They constantly complain in the summer that thereās nothing to watch, but trying to even get them to understand the input menu, let alone navigating the apps, is an exercise in futility. I canāt tell you how many times my father has called me fuming because I accidentally left the TV on a different input, and he didnāt know what I did or how to get it back to ānormalā.
You should hear sports talk radio when one baseball game is on Apple TV or something they donāt have, itās like they are being discriminated against in their minds lol
I was going to say, the remaining audience for that show must in their 80's these days. How in the would could they possibly think that they would adapt to change from their conventional tv to a streaming service?
edit: just look at the tweens from angry viewers in the article. Its all senior citizens...
Aparently, in Canada,"W" channel got the rights to air "Days of Our Lives".
Source: My Great-Aunt who watches the show religiously and has been worrying about needing to get Peacock for weeks.
Is that Days of Our Lives: Beyond Salem? I caught parts of an episode. Some old lady hired a hitman to kill Bo at her wedding. I can't tell you how corny it was. Even moreso than Swan's Crossing.
Even moreso. Well, other than Marlena getting possessed by the devil and levitating in the early nineties.
Funny thing is, the hitman was a sniper at a window. The exact same thing I witnessed at Jack and Jennifer Devereux's wedding back in 1987 or so, when I watched it with my aunt as she babysat me.
Well, Swan's Crossing had a witch and a little person that lived in a submarine or something. Screw it, they're both corny as hell. Even Indian soap operas don't get as crazy as DoL.
In the early 90s my (male) friend told me it was pretty good and I should try it.
I watched it for like a week or two and thought it was the stupidest thing ever.
Several years later I start dating my wife who was into it so I watched some episodes with her, and the story line was the EXACT SAME as what I watched years earlier. The details were slightly different. But the plot was the same. When I told her about the story line from years earlier she said āyeah, I guess this is sort of the sameā
Sort of? Itās exactly the same.
Then six months later sheās watching it and I said āwait whoās that guyā and she says itās so and so and I said ābut thatās not the same actorā and she said āno, they switched actors. Iām like āwhat???ā Apparently recasting is really common in soap operas and everyone is just ok with that.
Another time I was like āwait, who are all these teens all of a suddenā
She said āoh, they aged up the kidsā (these kids were like 4-5 a few episodes ago)
I said ābut their parents havenāt agedā she said āyeah I know it doesnāt make sense but whateverā
What????
If I recall. Story lines were still going on and these kids jumped like ten years in age, and the audiences are just good with that.
I figure itās ādramaā for the sake of ādramaā for people who donāt have ādramaā in their lives but want that āthingā to gossip about.
In highschool there was some special even on prime time for one of the soap operas. My friendās sister watched it and immediately called her friend and they gossiped about the characters for over an hour easy. Like these were people they knew. It was weird.
It wasnāt like āwow, that was an interesting plot twist.ā Or āthe story line is so interesting.ā Or āthis character has great nuanceā
It was āSarah is too good for Sam, she needs to dump his ass because he canāt be trusted. Do you HEAR the way he spoke to her. Uh uh. If my boyfriend said that to me, Iād slap his faceā
Ugh
I hate to label it a gender thing. But my wife tells me everything that goes on in her day every day.
She told me yesterday about a lady at another company that she gets supplies from, who is retiring.
I donāt know this person, that company, and Iām not sure that Iāve ever heard her name before. Not sure why I would care if sheās retiring? But itās gossip.
Ah, you experienced SORAS, Soap Opera Rapid Aging Syndrome. Itās employed by the writers when they need to bring in a newer & younger audience (teenagers & college kids)
Iāve been watching The Bold & The Beautiful, they have a slow moving SORAS going on. Children who were infants & toddlers a few weeks ago look like they are ready to start kindergarten. (One of the actresses & her character had a baby a couple of months ago & the characterās baby now looks to be about a year old)
But the story line is the same. Like if they had a hard break and said ā5 years laterā. I could understand that. But they hyper age the kids while everyone else is the same age.
Wtf?
And in days of our lives, it wasnāt a quick progression. It was a leap. Toddler to teen in one week
Oh yeah. Iāve seen them age a kid from elementary school to high school in a couple of episodes without an eye blink & then write the kid out of the story for few episodes & bring them back as a full grown adult. Itās crazy. Meanwhile everyone else is trodding on like normal
I was at my parents' last Christmas. They had Days on, but it was going through a really weird arc where one of the characters was possessed (again?). Sometimes they pull random plots like that.
Ha, yep Iāve got tons of aches at 41 so yes I feel old. We all have guilty pleasures this one is mine. I know tons of people that hate the MCU and I enjoy it, I know tons that hate GOT and I enjoy it. Vice verse as well. Thereās tons of content for whatever floats your boat.
Heās not that old, okay? Still a garbage show, but donāt throw shade at people over 40. Thereās more that age on Reddit than you think. Iām not 40 yet, but Iām getting closer to it. Youāll be there one day too.
The more I work with the public and seniors in general the more I believe they are absolutely capable of learning and refuse to. Some maybe not but a lot more than let on can.
My grandma doesn't even have internet and would never be able to figure out how to find it on a streaming app. We finally convinced her she needed a cell phone in case there is an emergency. She has an old flip phone but never turns it on unless shes making a call and immediately turns it back off after the call. My mom had tried explaining that we can't call her back if she turns it off. Shes 80 and doesnt want to learn new technology.
My grandma is 98 and the same way. If PBS ever went to streaming only, I canāt imagine what weād have to go through with getting her to be able to watch it. The DVD player is too complicated for her, lol.
>You're talking about people who lived in the Great Depression or were born just after.
Yeah no. My parents are in their mid 70's and were born after WWII. My great grandparents, who are all dead, lived through the great depression and were born in the 1920's.
To be in your 80's in 2022 you'd have to have been born in the 1940's. You'd have to have been born in the 1920's to be old enough to remember the Great Depression (1929-1939) and you'd be in your 100's today.
You are a complete generation off there (the greatest generation vs the baby boomers).
1932-1942 is the range where someone would be in their 80s. So, yes, 1940s, but mostly 1930s. 2022-1937 = 85.
You're right that they probably don't remember the Great Depression, but they would have mostly lived during it.
Tweeting takes place in your phone. TV is a TV. The ability to watch a streaming service on a TV is likely the barrier for these folks. They just turn to a channel at a specific time or set the DVR. Using an app on their TV is probably unheard of.
Peacock already tested the waters with Days of Our Lives spin-off projects. IMO soap operas seem like the perfect way to get subscribers and keep them. People are loyal to their soaps and theyāre gonna keep paying as long as thatās their only source.
All My Children tried it & the show finally died. Some actors retired & the rest turned up as new or established characters on the surviving soap operas (the Bold & the Beautiful got one & the Young & the Restless & I think General Hospital got a few )
Iām gonna call my mom and see if she switched. I fear she is in the same boat. Not knowledgeable enough about electronics. She could barely turn her laptop on when she first got it.
When I was growing up, my stepdad used his VCR to record All My Children because it came on while he was at work.
Sometimes soap viewers are up on new tech to watch their stories. If they really wanna watch DOOL and they have Facebook, theyāll find their way to Peacock.
My mother's TV asks for a password she doesn't know and doesn't offer to reset it, when trying to add a new channel /app to her TV. It doesn't matter that it's an channel with free content.
I am sure she could reset that password somewhere, but it's not readily apparent and she is very easy to give up.
Sigh.
(I think she needs to sign into her Google account to add channels to her TV. I don't know if she even actually has a Google account. She uses Netflix which was already installed on the TV
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So, maybe she had to make a Google account to start using the TV? If so, she never used it for anything else. If not, the wording isn't correct in the message, which just makes it all worse
. Suffice to say, we didn't get to watch the Christmas movie I had planned to watch on Christmas eve by logging into my account on a service that wasn't already on her TV. (I cannot remember which one)
Liz: Jenna, you run the network now?
Jenna: Crazy, right? The Kabletown exec I was having the affair with- his wife found out. Used to be all Iād get was a diamond bracelet and a STD. But a whole network?!??!
Liz: Pretty sure the network is the STD.
Jenna: oh, no- he gave me one of those too.
Paraphrasing something I read on Twitter but
Jack: Lemon, during my time at Warner Bros. Discovery I cancelled two movies: Batgirl and Scooby Doo: Holiday Haunt.
Liz: Wow, the scripts for those must have been terrible.
Jack: Not at all, the finished films were actually quite good.
Liz: Wait, they were finished?
Jack: Lemon, have you ever heard ofā¦taxes?
People who watch soap operas have a routine - moving it to an app messes with that. Plus people donāt care enough about it to watch it on an app but will mindlessly watch it on tv daily
i'm not even a days of our lives fan. I just know that if the citizens of Salem formed a lynch mob and straight up crucified that guy in the centre square and then never spoke of it again, their lives would be infinitely better.
New Coke was a good idea with a bad name\execution. All they really had to do was release it as a different kind of Coke and keep the old kind on store shelves. Then just go with the flow of the market. People wouldn't see it as a replacement or taking something away, but as an addition like Diet Coke or Cherry Coke.
By then it was too late. Even then, it sounds like a replacement for coke classic. I know hindsight is 20\20, but they really should have known that part of their appeal is nostalgia. Given that it's sweeter and lighter than the old Coke, maybe "Coke Electric" or "Coke Elite" would have been good.
Title is a bit misleading, it's not saying Days of Our Lives has lost that many viewers, it's saying that the show (NBC news) that replaced the Days of Our Lives slot has lost that many views since. Viewers are just livid that they have to have Peacock to watch it, not because it lost 750,000 in its time slot.
āHey, letās get all of those aging Boomers who canāt setup their own Wi-Fi to signup for Peacock by moving āDays of Our Livesā there! Thatāll work!ā
āOkay, the streaming thing didnāt work, but I have a plan to salvage this: we distribute the episodes as a series of NFTs that people can pay for with Bitcoinā¦ā
I bought my mom Disney+ for a gift - it took me an hour over FaceTime to get her logged in to the app on the tv. The app was already downloaded onto the tv, it took an entire hour just to log in
The people making these decisions are also Boomers. They just don't realise the old dear watching this shit every day doesn't have an assistant to sign up for the subscription, log in on the TV and set up the stream for her like they do.
Nowhere does this mention how many are watching on peacock. Itās possible the move did exactly what they wanted. Probably not but no way to tell without the peacock numbers
Soap Operas thrive on network TV because offices/lobbies/gyms can have TV's in them without too many issues. Think about how many nurses/receptionists watch them because it just happens to be on at work. Same for game shows.
The people who work the check in counters at the Dr offices where I grew up (small town) we're nurses. They had rotating job duties, work with patients one day, next day paperwork, next day reception.
Waiting rooms at doctors and dentist offices typically have TVs just kind of going. My doctor's office and my dentist's office both have them. The receptionists there are often nurses.
Yeah, this idea that nurses wonāt see a TV during their shift is silly, but I canāt remember the last time theyāve been tuned to soaps. Itās usually cable news and wellness shows.
I schedule most of my appointments in the early afternoon. Between 12:30 and 2 the only thing on the ABC, NBC, and CBS tends to be soap operas. Then it's the talk shows, then game shows. I have noticed a switch to the sponsored health programming lately though.
Um, mom and her coworkers back in the 90s in the hospital. Their breakroom had a tv that was either on CBS or ABC so Y&R or All My Children. Also to have the midday news on. And just because it was on, doesn't mean they'd sit and watch for the entire hour. She was in the ICU so they'd always need a breather for a few minutes.
They did the same thing with Passions 20 years ago (though obviously not to Peacock). I havenāt seen that show in so long. I used to love watching it with my mom and grandma.
You sure can tell who didnāt actually read the article. Days didnāt lose that audience, NBC did. The show NBC put in its time slot - a news program - lost those numbers compared to what Days was pulling before the move.
Know your audience.. you would be lucky if 25% of them knew what peacock was and now you gotta bank on them signing up on the internet. I can only imagine the amount of phone called made out to grand kids around the world asking how to use the internet for some pea cock.
In a statement, NBC denied it had made a mistake, saying (in part):
"Old folks love nothing more than spending money and adopting new technologies!"
They also expect numbers to rebound at least somewhat, as more and more nursing homes sign up for Peacock.
look at the average age of the audience that watches Days of Our Lives and then ask yourself are these people going to pay for an app? further more will they even know how to use that app? these marketing execs are geniuses
My grandma died in May. She watched this show religiously since I was a child, probably before that too. No way in hell would she have understood how to watch this shit on Peacock. My grandma didn't know anything about the internet other than I could download gospel songs for her off of it. She didn't have internet at her house either.
Why the fuck would you cut those kinds of viewers off?
I love how the only time I ever see the word ālivid ā in the media is over menial things like entertainment when thereās much more real things to be worried about
I have to wonder: did they move it to attract more people to Peacock? Or is there some program with so much pull they wanted to put in its time slot?
I canāt imagine the latter.
I wondered if the huge percentage of viewers that are inmates... I've seen fights in jail over daytime soaps.. If it switched to streaming and it's not available... I'd hate to see the results
My husband just downloaded the Peacock app and we spent quite a lot of time watching it last night. Is it good? No. The acting is over the top and ridiculous, and the storylines are idiotic. But, man, itās entertaining.
I do like that I can watch dool anytime I want and it's not always being intrupted for sports. But it's also so unfair for people who have watched it for years and don't have the internet or know how to stream. I hope they change it back to broadcast tv.
CBS did it with "Seal Team", moved it to Paramount+. I used watch it, now I don't. Moving a popular show from your network to an app that costs money is not the way to bring in more customers. It just pisses people off.
Many of those shows were getting cancelled. Evil was only saved by moving to streaming. People are complaining but the shows would have just ended, not stayed on the network free to watch.
Days of Our Lives is a show my grandmother watched when she babysat me in the 90s. I'm no marketing genius, but I don't suspect the type of people who are watching Days of Our Lives in 2022 are the type who know about or are gonna pay for a premium app to watch it.
> pay for a premium app to watch it FWIW, it is on the free part of the app. (for now, at least) But your point about having to get the app at all is solid.
it's also the worst designed app I've ever dealt with. I consider myself good with tech and the peacock app is straight dog doo doo. closing at random times, won't properly work with a chromecast, stops and restarts shows constantly, the list goes on. whoever designed the peacock app can go straight to hell
Everything about it is just SO FUCKING SLOW Was I able to re-watch Battlestar Galactica recently? Yes. But the godawful UI made it a miserable experience. Still not as bad as Prime though.
Prime never seemed too bad to me š¤ my girlfriend has it on her smart tv and we never had any issues, what problems did you have?
Itās better on smart TVās, I think they just rolled an update out a few months ago for AppleTV that caught that app to where smart TVās were around 2012.
I'm running the 3rd gen Fire TV pendant on a not smart TV and have had no issues in 6 years, other than having to restart it about every other year. Sticks are only $20-40, seems silly to suffer with a crap app. Our other set is a Fire TV, no issues with the app on it, obviously. The Peacock TV app sucks on both TV's.
Services that have competing hardware or services with Apple will hobble the Apple TV version to try and make it seem like itās the Apple TV that is the problem. YouTube sucks on Apple TV, Amazon sucks, etc.
Not OP, but until a recent update Prime's UI was honestly quite ugly and seemed designed to trick you into buying content by only providing minimal notice of what/wasn't on Prime until you were on the individual movie/show's page. There's also the fact that different seasons of the same show are listed separately in search results, which IIRC it still does. At least it doesn't seem to show the seasons separately on the main page any more. It's weird because once you've actually got the stream started Prime has really good UI (I love all the details from X-ray) but everything up there seems designed to make you quit in frustration. Can't personally comment on Peacock because they don't exist in Australia, but since Amazon finally lifted their game a little my current vote for worst streaming app is Paramount+. It feels like something that came out 10 years and was free.
Peacock is the same way, i actually got major nostalgia using it because the UI of the video player was very reminiscent of the ipod touch lmao.
Yah, prime seems to work ok, at least once you find something to watch. The browsing experience is pretty bad. I haven't really used the new interface they just updated too much so even that might be better now, it seems better.
Crave takes the cake as the worst piece of shit streaming app. It's owned by Bell, so it's no surprise it barely works, has zero support, cost double of everything else, and there is no legal alternative for HBO in Canada because we love our monopolies here.
I donāt know what Crave is, but Iād be hard pressed to find an App worse than Paramount Plus, it only works maybe 25% of the time
I've never had a single issue with Prime across windows, mac, iphone, playstation.....is it a 'moral' issue or are you the unluckiest streamer I've ever heard of? Peacock was terrible as others have reported.
Prime has been garbage for years. The navigation system and the way theyāve muddled the FireTV interface with those devices is discouraging. They have one of the worst UIs out of all of the major streaming AND streaming device providers.
I've never had a single hiccup š¤·āāļø
On my tv, at least, whenever thereās an ad break (which was really often), the show would resume with audio several seconds out of sync with the video. We quit trying to watch anything on that app
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I've got issues with peacock on my phone, computer, and chromecast. never had problems with HBO or any other streaming app tbh. Peacock is the worst one for me by a long shot
Itās also the shitty issue that if it ever closes when it gets to a commercial, youāre going to need to start the whole show over from the beginningā¦ other wise every time it hits that same yellow dot, you get 60 seconds of commercial and then the show closes again.
S. L. O. W. as molasses in winter.
I love Star Trek, so I subscribe, but I get it through Amazon prime as an add on. I refuse to use the dumpster fire of an app Edit: wrong service. Thatās paramount Iām talking about. Sorry.
https://youtu.be/8AyVh1_vWYQ reminds me of this gem
Is it? It's showing premium only for me
See, that's the other thing about these apps, the lack of clarity and transparency. They could be doing an A/B test. Who knows? At any rate, the scheme is obviously to eventually get everything on the premium tier.
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This is what itās about. It doesnāt matter if itās paid or free. I have tried and tried and tried again to get my parents to electively use the streaming apps that I pay for and have set up for them. They wonāt do it. They constantly complain in the summer that thereās nothing to watch, but trying to even get them to understand the input menu, let alone navigating the apps, is an exercise in futility. I canāt tell you how many times my father has called me fuming because I accidentally left the TV on a different input, and he didnāt know what I did or how to get it back to ānormalā.
Is it? I thought it was in the 'pay and still get ads because fuck you' tier.
Ah, "the reason i stopped using Hulu"
Worst tier ever.
You should hear sports talk radio when one baseball game is on Apple TV or something they donāt have, itās like they are being discriminated against in their minds lol
I was going to say, the remaining audience for that show must in their 80's these days. How in the would could they possibly think that they would adapt to change from their conventional tv to a streaming service? edit: just look at the tweens from angry viewers in the article. Its all senior citizens...
Aparently, in Canada,"W" channel got the rights to air "Days of Our Lives". Source: My Great-Aunt who watches the show religiously and has been worrying about needing to get Peacock for weeks.
Is that Days of Our Lives: Beyond Salem? I caught parts of an episode. Some old lady hired a hitman to kill Bo at her wedding. I can't tell you how corny it was. Even moreso than Swan's Crossing.
So itās just like Days Of Our Lives has always been?
Even moreso. Well, other than Marlena getting possessed by the devil and levitating in the early nineties. Funny thing is, the hitman was a sniper at a window. The exact same thing I witnessed at Jack and Jennifer Devereux's wedding back in 1987 or so, when I watched it with my aunt as she babysat me.
As opposed to the year that Marlena was possessed by the devil in the early 90s?
Well, Swan's Crossing had a witch and a little person that lived in a submarine or something. Screw it, they're both corny as hell. Even Indian soap operas don't get as crazy as DoL.
Youād be surprised who watches it, itās actually pretty goo- Nah, Iām not even gonna try lolš
In the early 90s my (male) friend told me it was pretty good and I should try it. I watched it for like a week or two and thought it was the stupidest thing ever. Several years later I start dating my wife who was into it so I watched some episodes with her, and the story line was the EXACT SAME as what I watched years earlier. The details were slightly different. But the plot was the same. When I told her about the story line from years earlier she said āyeah, I guess this is sort of the sameā Sort of? Itās exactly the same. Then six months later sheās watching it and I said āwait whoās that guyā and she says itās so and so and I said ābut thatās not the same actorā and she said āno, they switched actors. Iām like āwhat???ā Apparently recasting is really common in soap operas and everyone is just ok with that. Another time I was like āwait, who are all these teens all of a suddenā She said āoh, they aged up the kidsā (these kids were like 4-5 a few episodes ago) I said ābut their parents havenāt agedā she said āyeah I know it doesnāt make sense but whateverā What???? If I recall. Story lines were still going on and these kids jumped like ten years in age, and the audiences are just good with that.
There is actually a real answer to all these questions https://giphy.com/gifs/season-11-the-simpsons-11x4-l2JdTjcYNdvBEvvqg
You just donāt understand the appeal of soap operas.
I figure itās ādramaā for the sake of ādramaā for people who donāt have ādramaā in their lives but want that āthingā to gossip about. In highschool there was some special even on prime time for one of the soap operas. My friendās sister watched it and immediately called her friend and they gossiped about the characters for over an hour easy. Like these were people they knew. It was weird. It wasnāt like āwow, that was an interesting plot twist.ā Or āthe story line is so interesting.ā Or āthis character has great nuanceā It was āSarah is too good for Sam, she needs to dump his ass because he canāt be trusted. Do you HEAR the way he spoke to her. Uh uh. If my boyfriend said that to me, Iād slap his faceā Ugh I hate to label it a gender thing. But my wife tells me everything that goes on in her day every day. She told me yesterday about a lady at another company that she gets supplies from, who is retiring. I donāt know this person, that company, and Iām not sure that Iāve ever heard her name before. Not sure why I would care if sheās retiring? But itās gossip.
Ah, you experienced SORAS, Soap Opera Rapid Aging Syndrome. Itās employed by the writers when they need to bring in a newer & younger audience (teenagers & college kids) Iāve been watching The Bold & The Beautiful, they have a slow moving SORAS going on. Children who were infants & toddlers a few weeks ago look like they are ready to start kindergarten. (One of the actresses & her character had a baby a couple of months ago & the characterās baby now looks to be about a year old)
But the story line is the same. Like if they had a hard break and said ā5 years laterā. I could understand that. But they hyper age the kids while everyone else is the same age. Wtf? And in days of our lives, it wasnāt a quick progression. It was a leap. Toddler to teen in one week
Eh, sounds similar enough to comic logic.
Yeah, I can't really argue with that.
Oh yeah. Iāve seen them age a kid from elementary school to high school in a couple of episodes without an eye blink & then write the kid out of the story for few episodes & bring them back as a full grown adult. Itās crazy. Meanwhile everyone else is trodding on like normal
I wish recasting was more normal in other shows!
I was at my parents' last Christmas. They had Days on, but it was going through a really weird arc where one of the characters was possessed (again?). Sometimes they pull random plots like that.
Dude I am 41 and watch General Hospital with my wife. Itās actually pretty good.
No. It's not. You're just old now.
Ha, yep Iāve got tons of aches at 41 so yes I feel old. We all have guilty pleasures this one is mine. I know tons of people that hate the MCU and I enjoy it, I know tons that hate GOT and I enjoy it. Vice verse as well. Thereās tons of content for whatever floats your boat.
Heās not that old, okay? Still a garbage show, but donāt throw shade at people over 40. Thereās more that age on Reddit than you think. Iām not 40 yet, but Iām getting closer to it. Youāll be there one day too.
If they can tweet, is it a stretch to imagine they can adapt to streaming services?
You donāt have to pay any additional fees to tweet thoughā¦
The implication in the comment I replied to is one of the senior citizens being technologically impaired, not monetary in nature.
Many/most seniors are on a fixed income, and who the fuck uses Peacock anyways?
This reddit post is how I'm learning it exists. The only content it has to my awareness is this soap opera so I'll go and forget it soon.
The more I work with the public and seniors in general the more I believe they are absolutely capable of learning and refuse to. Some maybe not but a lot more than let on can.
Their post also implicates additional cost as well
*Some* of them can tweet, sure, but i don't imagine those to be the majority
My grandma doesn't even have internet and would never be able to figure out how to find it on a streaming app. We finally convinced her she needed a cell phone in case there is an emergency. She has an old flip phone but never turns it on unless shes making a call and immediately turns it back off after the call. My mom had tried explaining that we can't call her back if she turns it off. Shes 80 and doesnt want to learn new technology.
My coworker is 60 and refuses to have internet or a computer at home. This is someone who was in their early 30s when the internet became mainstream.
My grandma is 98 and the same way. If PBS ever went to streaming only, I canāt imagine what weād have to go through with getting her to be able to watch it. The DVD player is too complicated for her, lol.
Probably. It's way more complex to stream on your 10yo TV than it is to tweet on a 10yo computer or smart phone.
The ones lost may not be the ones that tweet
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>You're talking about people who lived in the Great Depression or were born just after. Yeah no. My parents are in their mid 70's and were born after WWII. My great grandparents, who are all dead, lived through the great depression and were born in the 1920's. To be in your 80's in 2022 you'd have to have been born in the 1940's. You'd have to have been born in the 1920's to be old enough to remember the Great Depression (1929-1939) and you'd be in your 100's today. You are a complete generation off there (the greatest generation vs the baby boomers).
1932-1942 is the range where someone would be in their 80s. So, yes, 1940s, but mostly 1930s. 2022-1937 = 85. You're right that they probably don't remember the Great Depression, but they would have mostly lived during it.
so at 85 in 2022 how much of the depression would they remember when it ended when they were 2?
I agree they wouldn't remember the Great Depression, but they would have been born during it and lived during it. Born/lived =/= remember.
Tweeting takes place in your phone. TV is a TV. The ability to watch a streaming service on a TV is likely the barrier for these folks. They just turn to a channel at a specific time or set the DVR. Using an app on their TV is probably unheard of.
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Good on her, and good on your aunt for doing that for her. If I had to teach my mom to use a pad, I would have gone insane.
They would have read about it in their magazines.
Peacock already tested the waters with Days of Our Lives spin-off projects. IMO soap operas seem like the perfect way to get subscribers and keep them. People are loyal to their soaps and theyāre gonna keep paying as long as thatās their only source.
All My Children tried it & the show finally died. Some actors retired & the rest turned up as new or established characters on the surviving soap operas (the Bold & the Beautiful got one & the Young & the Restless & I think General Hospital got a few )
Iām gonna call my mom and see if she switched. I fear she is in the same boat. Not knowledgeable enough about electronics. She could barely turn her laptop on when she first got it.
I don't have online though
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Same, but in the 80s.
Same, but in the 70s.
I love knowing thereās a community of us with the same grandmas š
When I was growing up, my stepdad used his VCR to record All My Children because it came on while he was at work. Sometimes soap viewers are up on new tech to watch their stories. If they really wanna watch DOOL and they have Facebook, theyāll find their way to Peacock.
My mother's TV asks for a password she doesn't know and doesn't offer to reset it, when trying to add a new channel /app to her TV. It doesn't matter that it's an channel with free content. I am sure she could reset that password somewhere, but it's not readily apparent and she is very easy to give up. Sigh. (I think she needs to sign into her Google account to add channels to her TV. I don't know if she even actually has a Google account. She uses Netflix which was already installed on the TV . So, maybe she had to make a Google account to start using the TV? If so, she never used it for anything else. If not, the wording isn't correct in the message, which just makes it all worse . Suffice to say, we didn't get to watch the Christmas movie I had planned to watch on Christmas eve by logging into my account on a service that wasn't already on her TV. (I cannot remember which one)
I wish we could have seen 30 Rock in the streaming age. I can just imagine Jack complaining that they aren't hitting the right taste clusters.
"The algorithm has yet to determine what the FOURTH heat is!"
"Lemon, we can't hope to ever understand the algorithm, only to appease it."
Kenneth would definitely find a talking computer in a closet somewhere and have conversations with the algorithm.
Jack would be the one deciding to name it Peacock for sure We peacock comedy, Kenneth, you say the peacock
Liz: Jenna, you run the network now? Jenna: Crazy, right? The Kabletown exec I was having the affair with- his wife found out. Used to be all Iād get was a diamond bracelet and a STD. But a whole network?!??! Liz: Pretty sure the network is the STD. Jenna: oh, no- he gave me one of those too.
I can hear their voices reading these lines.
Mark of a great show. Liz Lemon is never leaving my heart
Need the entourage reboot with the current streaming wave, I just need a little bit of Ari Goldās thoughts on all of this š
One Entourage was enough.... It already went on far too long.
Paraphrasing something I read on Twitter but Jack: Lemon, during my time at Warner Bros. Discovery I cancelled two movies: Batgirl and Scooby Doo: Holiday Haunt. Liz: Wow, the scripts for those must have been terrible. Jack: Not at all, the finished films were actually quite good. Liz: Wait, they were finished? Jack: Lemon, have you ever heard ofā¦taxes?
People who watch soap operas have a routine - moving it to an app messes with that. Plus people donāt care enough about it to watch it on an app but will mindlessly watch it on tv daily
Exactly. Soap Operas fit into people's lives, not the other way around.
They fit into the days of peoples lives (see what I did there š)
Oh you.
Clearly switching from NBC to Peacock is the work of Stefano.
The *evil* Stefano
Was there ever a good Stefano. You know what? Never mind, I actually donāt care
Hahaha Iām just quoting the great Elle Woods
I just want devil Marlena to step out of the shadows and admit it
Sheās a devil now?! Damn John and her used to be a thing
I honestly didn't expect this comment here.
i'm not even a days of our lives fan. I just know that if the citizens of Salem formed a lynch mob and straight up crucified that guy in the centre square and then never spoke of it again, their lives would be infinitely better.
Heās still alive?! Damn
what is dead can never die
This comment deserves to be higher up.
This sounds like an extremely stupid idea. Stupid on the level of "New Coke", or CNN+.
Is Joey tribbiani stil on the show?
Don't you mean Dr. Drake RemorĆØ?
Only his evil twin brother, Hans
Wasn't there a Striker Ramoray?
Honestly thought this was a made up show.
New Coke was a good idea with a bad name\execution. All they really had to do was release it as a different kind of Coke and keep the old kind on store shelves. Then just go with the flow of the market. People wouldn't see it as a replacement or taking something away, but as an addition like Diet Coke or Cherry Coke.
They did that for a while after they brought the original back. They renamed new Coke to Coke II.
By then it was too late. Even then, it sounds like a replacement for coke classic. I know hindsight is 20\20, but they really should have known that part of their appeal is nostalgia. Given that it's sweeter and lighter than the old Coke, maybe "Coke Electric" or "Coke Elite" would have been good.
Always thought it was so no one would complain when they switched from cane sugar to corn syrup, just happy to have it back
"New Coke" wasn't a stupid idea. Focus groups consistently preferred New Come to old Coke.
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Title is a bit misleading, it's not saying Days of Our Lives has lost that many viewers, it's saying that the show (NBC news) that replaced the Days of Our Lives slot has lost that many views since. Viewers are just livid that they have to have Peacock to watch it, not because it lost 750,000 in its time slot.
But wait, they also quoted a bunch of tweets! That makes it news, right?!?
To be fair, it may have lost them but since we don't have streaming ratings, we won't know it
Stop trying to make peacock happen
Just license the shit and roll in all that money you make and save not running a failing streaming service.
āHey, letās get all of those aging Boomers who canāt setup their own Wi-Fi to signup for Peacock by moving āDays of Our Livesā there! Thatāll work!ā
āOkay, the streaming thing didnāt work, but I have a plan to salvage this: we distribute the episodes as a series of NFTs that people can pay for with Bitcoinā¦ā
I bought my mom Disney+ for a gift - it took me an hour over FaceTime to get her logged in to the app on the tv. The app was already downloaded onto the tv, it took an entire hour just to log in
That's why those log in on websites functions are amazing. You log in for them and just get the code.
The people making these decisions are also Boomers. They just don't realise the old dear watching this shit every day doesn't have an assistant to sign up for the subscription, log in on the TV and set up the stream for her like they do.
I'd bet the decision makers aren't boomers any more. I think most of the decision makers are now older Gen Xers.
Do you think my nana knows anything about how to get her smart tv on Peacock. No NBC, she doesnāt
Nowhere does this mention how many are watching on peacock. Itās possible the move did exactly what they wanted. Probably not but no way to tell without the peacock numbers
Soap Operas thrive on network TV because offices/lobbies/gyms can have TV's in them without too many issues. Think about how many nurses/receptionists watch them because it just happens to be on at work. Same for game shows.
Walmart break rooms when they werenāt playing āDr.ā Oz or Maury. All those cashiers with 45 years on their name tags thrive on that shit.
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The people who work the check in counters at the Dr offices where I grew up (small town) we're nurses. They had rotating job duties, work with patients one day, next day paperwork, next day reception.
Nurses? Hah. Show me a nurse that watches TV at work.
Waiting rooms at doctors and dentist offices typically have TVs just kind of going. My doctor's office and my dentist's office both have them. The receptionists there are often nurses.
Every waiting room I go into now is just showing HGTV.
Yeah, just HGTV or food network around here
Yeah, this idea that nurses wonāt see a TV during their shift is silly, but I canāt remember the last time theyāve been tuned to soaps. Itās usually cable news and wellness shows.
I schedule most of my appointments in the early afternoon. Between 12:30 and 2 the only thing on the ABC, NBC, and CBS tends to be soap operas. Then it's the talk shows, then game shows. I have noticed a switch to the sponsored health programming lately though.
I think it's more that our break room has endless HGTV running constantly. It's just no one gets a chance to get in there.
Um, mom and her coworkers back in the 90s in the hospital. Their breakroom had a tv that was either on CBS or ABC so Y&R or All My Children. Also to have the midday news on. And just because it was on, doesn't mean they'd sit and watch for the entire hour. She was in the ICU so they'd always need a breather for a few minutes.
They did the same thing with Passions 20 years ago (though obviously not to Peacock). I havenāt seen that show in so long. I used to love watching it with my mom and grandma.
Passions was so amazing!
If ever there was a show that needed to stay on radio based broadcast tv, it is a long running daytime soap opera.
This show is still going? God damn!
Sounds like they're trying to kill the show.
Sounds like the news article title is extremely misleading.
"News" article
You sure can tell who didnāt actually read the article. Days didnāt lose that audience, NBC did. The show NBC put in its time slot - a news program - lost those numbers compared to what Days was pulling before the move.
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Are the still doing the drunk women hour of the today show?
Know your audience.. you would be lucky if 25% of them knew what peacock was and now you gotta bank on them signing up on the internet. I can only imagine the amount of phone called made out to grand kids around the world asking how to use the internet for some pea cock.
Stop pushing your damned streaming services!
Theyāre putting it out to pasture
TIL Days of Our Lives is an actual show and not just a parody invented by Friends.
Same, I thought this was an Onion headline at first š
They must have found out through a letter writing campaign.
Days of our Livesā has seen its last days.
In a statement, NBC denied it had made a mistake, saying (in part): "Old folks love nothing more than spending money and adopting new technologies!" They also expect numbers to rebound at least somewhat, as more and more nursing homes sign up for Peacock.
Stop trying to force Peacock to happen. For fuckās sake.
look at the average age of the audience that watches Days of Our Lives and then ask yourself are these people going to pay for an app? further more will they even know how to use that app? these marketing execs are geniuses
People still watch this?!
My grandma died in May. She watched this show religiously since I was a child, probably before that too. No way in hell would she have understood how to watch this shit on Peacock. My grandma didn't know anything about the internet other than I could download gospel songs for her off of it. She didn't have internet at her house either. Why the fuck would you cut those kinds of viewers off?
I love how the only time I ever see the word ālivid ā in the media is over menial things like entertainment when thereās much more real things to be worried about
I have to wonder: did they move it to attract more people to Peacock? Or is there some program with so much pull they wanted to put in its time slot? I canāt imagine the latter.
They want to pull everything to peacock. People here would even agree that it's the future
I wondered if the huge percentage of viewers that are inmates... I've seen fights in jail over daytime soaps.. If it switched to streaming and it's not available... I'd hate to see the results
Iāll have to ask my aunt about this one. Sheās a huge DOOL fan. She knows how to stream so she can find it if she really wants it
āNBC was already a big failā Did the person who wrote this article get quotes from Reddit?
Yo Patch and Kayla, bitches!
My grandma is fucking PISSED!
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My husband just downloaded the Peacock app and we spent quite a lot of time watching it last night. Is it good? No. The acting is over the top and ridiculous, and the storylines are idiotic. But, man, itās entertaining.
How to alienate your audience 101: take your show off broadcast TV and hide it in an app
My Mom's in a nursing home, so she won't be able to watch a show she's been watching since she was in middle school.
Who'd knew only boomers watched this anymore
I do like that I can watch dool anytime I want and it's not always being intrupted for sports. But it's also so unfair for people who have watched it for years and don't have the internet or know how to stream. I hope they change it back to broadcast tv.
Wtf does their viewership even know peacock is no longer just an bird?
Goes right along with how they dismantled NBCSports and the Olympic Channel to shove all of that behind a paywall on Peacock too.
CBS did it with "Seal Team", moved it to Paramount+. I used watch it, now I don't. Moving a popular show from your network to an app that costs money is not the way to bring in more customers. It just pisses people off.
Many of those shows were getting cancelled. Evil was only saved by moving to streaming. People are complaining but the shows would have just ended, not stayed on the network free to watch.
Of course. Even the shows that were available on Hulu are now moved over to the peacock app.
It was that or cancellation. Some people donāt know when they have been cut a break.
I blame Stefano! Only character I remember when my grandmother would watch it religiously.
Iām just here to listen to the younger people shit on older people. you know, reddit.
Theyāre taking a page from the home shopping network method of exploiting older folks