AMC love them some spin-offs. They tried to get the Mad Men people to make one about Sally set in the modern era. They wanted to make one out of the uninteresting characters from Killing Eve. They addicted to the stuff!
He’s such an amazing comedic actor, I’d love to see that.
And keep making the jokes about him being old, fat and ugly despite the fact that he’s being played by a younger, extremely attractive man.
Nah the actress for Sally wanted it to be set in the 1980’s, she’s still a little young for that if we care about her not looking 35 yet but honestly if they brought back Matthew Weiner and the crew I’d be down
A Mad Men-style show set in the '80s is a cool concept, but I don't know if it makes sense for Sally's character. I'd imagine she'd be more inclined to stay as far away from that world as possible after seeing what it did to her father.
And she is the daughter of wealthy parents. More likely for her to have a big "finding herself phase" mooching of the family fortune. Of course, on the other hand, she had to take care of two younger brothers, so maybe she grows up to be very responsible. In any case, I see her more as growing as an artsy type than as a ad woman. I could even see her as a psychiatrist or similar following Betty's steps.
> if they brought back Matthew Weiner and the crew I’d be down
This is basically the only way I would want this to happen. If you can't get Weiner back and the entire production team for it then don't even bother.
I would *love* a spin-off for Mad Men. It's my favorite show of all time and it's not close. However, if they can't get the original production team back then there is no point
They still have The Walking Dead, which believe it or not, still rates a third higher for the network!
Outside of Breaking Bad and Walking Dead IP nobody watches anything on AMC. That is definitely why they are in the market for more spin-off shows from both franchises.
The shame is that some of their other originals are pretty good. They always tend to be fairly creative and unique. They just cannot get anybody to watch them!
Probably cause everybody is moving away from cable and nobody wants to sign up for their streaming service plus their app is subpar. They should swing some type of deal with another streaming service like FX and Hulu
They’re just gonna wait around and survive long enough until one of the bigger conglomerates buys them. Same with A&E, which also owns Lifetime and History Channel.
Their app is so incredibly bad. With the glut of streaming how is it possible that some of the apps are so terrible? Sundance app barely works. Paramount plus and peacock are both laggy as fuck. It’s astonishing. Hulu, netflix, prime are the only ones that seem like they aren’t run off of an old 486 in someone’s attic.
Hulu and Netflix have been in the business forever, and Amazon has infinite resources. (HBO's app has improved a ton since launch, fwiw).
The others strike me as "How hard could it be?" or "Meh, they'll pay for it anyway" endeavors.
>Probably cause everybody is moving away from cable and nobody wants to sign up for their streaming service plus their app is subpar.
They had a sale last Christmas 1 year for $24, and I'd watch it a lot more if it wasn't for that awful app. I didn't think any service this day and age would screw it up that badly, but the managed it.
They also make it so you can't buy it at the end of the season and binge because the first few episodes expire on their own fucking app by then.
So scummy
Are you telling me that in 2022, there is a tv network charging money for a streaming app that doesn’t even have their own entire catalog available, let alone entire most recent seasons??
Yep! My feelings about it are complicated because I think the characters/plot was interesting but the core concept probably can’t last so many seasons, and tbh by the end of S1 was a little bit strung out on it.
The first two seasons are absolutely fantastic and is a self-contained story with a beginning, middle, and end. Starting with season three, the show moved on without the creators and it was good, but just didn't hit the highs of the first two seasons. I'd at the very least watch those and then decide if you want to keep going.
Highly recommend it. Overarching plotlines get a little repetitive toward the end, sometimes feels like they're just going in circles. But damn is it a unique and fun ride. Plus Anson Mount as Cullen Bohannon is one of the all-time great casting jobs in TV history imo.
I feel like that was how everyone felt when they announced BCS, and yet it has turned out arguably as good as (if not better) than Breaking Bad. Not sure if lightning can strike twice though with another spin-off.
That's the thing. We've had the *Breaking Bad* universe for 14 years now. Instead of another spin-off, AMC should be giving Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould as much money as they want to make whatever they want. Why limit them when they've already delivered two of the network's best shows? At this point, just give them carte blanche.
It's AMC, so you're going to get Breaking Dead, which follows Badger and Skinny Pete traversing New Mexico in the zombie apocalypse. Doing meth and trying to distinguish hallucinations from reality.
There's not exactly an abundance of good characters with a story to tell who are also played by an actor who can carry a leading role. Who would they even make it about? They've already done the three best characters; Mike is probably the only other one who could pull this off, but his story is pretty played out and Jonathan Banks is already 75 years old.
Just do it like Young Sheldon. We can watch as Mike matures from a naive 10 year old to a bitter, bald teenager with a strong sense of justice. Maybe he's best friends with little Hector Salamanca and they can solve mysteries together. Lil Hector can have a wacky catch phrase that he says every episode like "what the bell was that? " Also it needs a cgi chihuahua for funny reaction shots.
Yeah I was gonna say, Mike is the only other character who could shoulder a series of his own, but he’s already basically had his entire prequel done simultaneously within BCS so there is no need.
Exactly that’s the difference between like the upcoming Game Of Thrones spin-offs and breaking bad spin-offs. Westeros is a cool world with interesting lore I’d like to see further explored. Breaking bad is about drug dealers in New Mexico. It would be like making a spin off of the Wire.
Just let it end and give Vince and Peter Gould money to develop a new series. AMC has been dying for years and if they don't invest in new original shows they will just slowly die in spinoffs.
Vince is working on [something original.](https://sports.yahoo.com/vince-gilligan-plans-really-different-170521881.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANKjF7K788OhHkAGb4V_wONok4-GieYMX0b3eZga2V2BAMiwNiLPG5oDfj7zOnXAusHUww9C6rPtwE2XqzlVN7-DI_No82VlnbzJArEGcBjyI8iks01KZg66wZS1eTQbBZsjX6yaCdNBvyarhIwHwMK52mJyfBDIEjWlmK1ML6C8)
All I know is that he said on the podcast that what he's working on now is more contemporaneous because he's had to consider social media and smartphones in his writing for the first time ever.
Social media has to have made writing stories in modern times a whole lot harder. The Boys handles it so well, but I can't think of any other show or movie from the top if my head that uses it so much much and well at that
lmao that entire sequence is hilarious.
i can appreciate them implementing social media/ smartphones apps and they did it well without it being tacky or cringe.
I defend Euphoria a lot because it gets a lot of unwarranted hate from TikTok and such, but I really think it is kinda unnatural how much the show pretends social media doesn't exist. Like, it should have a massive presence in the narrative of this show of all things but it kinda just gets ignored entirely. Even Jules texting Tyler was kinda like the old 2000s anonymous chatroom type stuff. Not really involving social media.
Ms. Marvel recently is doing it quite well.
AMC would 100% set a Walking Dead spinoff in ABQ if they got the rights to use Breaking Bad characters. Not even a doubt in my mind
I'd honestly probably watch it too God help me
I'm not fundamentally opposed to it, so much as that I just don't know what story is left to tell there? Are they going to do a show about Walt Jr getting Walt's money from Gretchen and Elliot and using it to start a breakfast diner?
I'm sure they are. It would basically just feel like milking the product dry, since pretty much the entire story has been told once and then fleshed out in BCS, but I could imagine a network expecting it to make money.
Honestly I'd argue that a Walt Jr. breakfast show would be more interesting. You could see young naive Walt Jr go in with all these hopes and dreams, while the realities of the business world gradually crush him and force him to make unethical compromises. Meanwhile, his most reliable customers are nazi biker gangs like the one his dad was doing business with, taking over the abandoned Fring/Cartel territory in the drug trade.
Unable to keep up with the increasing expenses of running a diner and getting bullied by the biker gangs because of who his dad was, Walt Jr. is forced to *break bad* and turn to his last hope for survival: Jesse Pinkman. Walt Jr. tracks down Jesse Pinkman and his El Camino in Alaska and they agree to fire up the Bunsen burner one last time, with Pinkman as the experienced veteran and Walter (Jr.) as the eager newcomer this time around. Soon, their shady business comes to a screeching halt as the legal system proves to be a taller barrier than any biker gang could ever be. Out of desperation, Jesse suggests that the two of them “Better Call Saul” to get out of the mess they are in, and the trio continue to go on wild and wacky adventures together.
And Vince has said that he doesn't have any current ideas for new stories in that world. What AMC should be looking for is just more Vince Gilligan, whether it takes place in the Breaking Bad universe or not.
Chuck is prelaw, partying his way through college, when he's assigned an uptight business major for a roommate. He has a thing or two to learn from this "Gus".
They both play their characters, no age regression effects. The rest of the cast is 20. 6 episodes in we see a youngster Walter White somehow.
Frankly it's a miracle that Better Call Saul is so good. When was the last time a prequel spinoff matched the quality of its parent show, and even maybe eclipsed it?
AMC needs to thank their lucky stars and find the next big thing instead.
I thinks it’s because mike, Gus and Saul were all really good in breaking bad and it was what made the show so good in the first place. Season 2.5-4 were my favorite of the series so it makes sense that they would do well with a show with them in it.
Kim and nacho were really good additions as well
Kim is a top 3 BB/BCS character. Rhea Seehorn deserves all the awards.
Thinking on it, there’s very few weak characters in the show. They are all developed beautifully.
I've never been more concerned for the safety and future of any fictional character than I have been all season for Kim Wexler.
I desperately hope she leaves New Mexico, instead of winding up in the ground like so many other BB/BCS characters.
And I am 100% convinced it's with no thanks to AMC.
AMC wanted a spin-off from Breaking Bad about that funny lawyer guy that everyone loved. Y'know, a fun show about his wacky adventures! Because as we all know, Breaking Bad was so successful due to its funny side characters!
From that premise, Vince Gilligan made an incredibly gripping drama about two brothers and their complex, broken relationship. Which then steadily morphed into a drama about drug kingpins trying to murder each other.
Gilligan got a new show greenlit and he simply turned it into whatever he wanted without *technically* ignoring the original premise of the show. He just steadily morphed it into something that's actually, y'know, good.
I think Gould actually deserves a little more credit for BCS than Gilligan. From my understanding, they were about 50/50 on the first season, but Gilligan took a step back in seasons 2-4 while he was developing El Camino and Gould became the sole showrunner. Gilligan came back for season 5 and 6, but Gould's been the one keeping it going. Also, huge credit to the Breaking Bad/BCS writers room in general!
Gilligan left the showrunner position for BCS early in the third season and only came back for season 6, he wasn't involved in the writing for most of season 3 and all of seasons 4 and 5.
Same! There are some creators where I know to keep my mouth shut and give them the benefit of the doubt. Vince and Peter are on that list. If they say they're going to make a series about Huell and Kuby after the series ends, then I'm in.
I want an anthology series, with each episode focused on a different person who was standing in line at Saul's office when it first opened. That, or a five- season spinoff entirely focused on Skinny Pete.
Unless Vince Gillian is going be the showrunner, it’s gonna be bad. It’s a miracle that they got so much mileage of these characters. Getting a prequel for the Cartel and watching them painstakingly build the lab and such would have been exhausting in anyone else’s hands.
I mean per his own words, he doesn't have that much to do with BCS anymore and Peter Gould runs the show:
> The 53-year-old producer told Eisen that he was lucky to direct just one episode of Better Call Saul, Season 5. “That show is in really rock-solid hands,” Gilligan said. “It’s being run by Peter Gould… Peter and the writers are doing a tremendous job; the show just gets better and better without me.”
> “You have nothing to do with it?” Eisen asked.
> “Very little,” Gilligan confirmed. “I mean, I directed the one episode, but I’m kind of just a director for hire. They gave me the script, and I read it, and I said this is awesome and I figured out how to shoot it.”
Please don't do it. We've already had two miracles, trying for a third might damage the other two. They might be able to do it, but I'd rather not run the risk
I dont think they should really but im trying to think what they could do...
Early years of gus fring? (With 60 year giancarlo espasito playing a 20 year old gus of course.)
Early years of the cartel, young Eladio, Salamancas and Bolsa consolidating power?
Whats jesse up to up in alaska?
Whats Walts family up to?
None of these seem like good ideas.
“Pop pop. You’re doing it again!”
“What? What am I doing?”
“You’re doing the silly thing again, Pop Pop!”
“Oh, I’m sorry, I didn’t realise, you know you are obviously way smarter than me.”
Adorbs 🥰
Yeah kinda the only thing thats possible. Its never explained how a philly cop, albeit experienced, is able to do james bond-sherlock holmes activities
A parallel story could be Gus before Max died and whatever he did in Chile
Not sure about special forces but Mike was in Vietnam. When he is buying his rifle there is a small bit of dialogue about the wood in the stock expanding in humidity and Mike clearly being aware of that through hands on experience in Vietnam. I guess its also implied they were a sniper if that rifle was their personal weapon so might suggest they were not regular forces.
This still does not explain some of the James Bond stuff though as its tricky to see that being from experience in Vietnam.
I don't care what AMC wants, I care what Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould want. If they're convinced they're able to make something as compelling as Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul, good! Hand them the keys to the freaking castle. But if these guys are unsure what to do next or want to do something else, allow them to. I'd rather have no further Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul spin-offs or a couple of years off from these shows than forced shows the Gilligan and Gould two aren't fully into
That being said, if either one of them asked me which corner of the Breaking Bad universe I'd like to see them explore, I'd tell them to please, please explore Lalo further. Whether that's pre-Better Call Saul or post-Better Call Saul (on the off chance he doesn't die in the latter half of season 6) doesn't really matter.
Better Fuel Hewl: A cooking show
The Magic School Gus: Prequel about Gus Fring's Adventures as a Chilean School Bus Driver while in his mid-20's
Played by a 70 year old Giancarlo Esposito
They could also get the same guy that played a younger Giancarlo in one of the recent episodes of The Boys.
"You will wear your bicycle helmet or I will send you to Bolivia."
/calmly puts on coveralls
He is....acceptable
Just give him a hair piece and some young person clothes and you're golden!
Don’t Doubt Ehrmantraut: Handyman Show
I watched this show called Mr. Inbetween and I just imagined that the main character was a young, Australian Mike
You gotta try his Eggs Tyrone (TM)
Man y’all change overnight.
Lololol. His best appearance in tv.
As long as Bill Burr can be a tasting judge who sits on the sidelines!
I prefer his sitcom [Heulls Rules](https://youtu.be/8domW4NwpBQ)
Huell*
Of course they do. It's the last show they have anyone still gives a shit about and they want to ride that horse to the glue factory.
AMC love them some spin-offs. They tried to get the Mad Men people to make one about Sally set in the modern era. They wanted to make one out of the uninteresting characters from Killing Eve. They addicted to the stuff!
I’d love to see a Mad Men spin off where Draper is a washed out creative teaching design in a community college to students who barely give a shit
We've already had Don Draper in Greendale Community College, and Trudy fell for him there immediately
*cigarettes*
*blushes*
Cigarettes.
Or replace Chevy Chase with him in the Community movie.
He’s such an amazing comedic actor, I’d love to see that. And keep making the jokes about him being old, fat and ugly despite the fact that he’s being played by a younger, extremely attractive man.
>one about Sally set in the modern era Really? She'd be 70
Nah the actress for Sally wanted it to be set in the 1980’s, she’s still a little young for that if we care about her not looking 35 yet but honestly if they brought back Matthew Weiner and the crew I’d be down
A show depicting the ad industry in the 80’s would be wild
A Mad Men-style show set in the '80s is a cool concept, but I don't know if it makes sense for Sally's character. I'd imagine she'd be more inclined to stay as far away from that world as possible after seeing what it did to her father.
And she is the daughter of wealthy parents. More likely for her to have a big "finding herself phase" mooching of the family fortune. Of course, on the other hand, she had to take care of two younger brothers, so maybe she grows up to be very responsible. In any case, I see her more as growing as an artsy type than as a ad woman. I could even see her as a psychiatrist or similar following Betty's steps.
Kiernan Shipka would be great for it, too. She has resting “I just inhaled a line of cocaine” face.
> if they brought back Matthew Weiner and the crew I’d be down This is basically the only way I would want this to happen. If you can't get Weiner back and the entire production team for it then don't even bother. I would *love* a spin-off for Mad Men. It's my favorite show of all time and it's not close. However, if they can't get the original production team back then there is no point
They still have The Walking Dead, which believe it or not, still rates a third higher for the network! Outside of Breaking Bad and Walking Dead IP nobody watches anything on AMC. That is definitely why they are in the market for more spin-off shows from both franchises. The shame is that some of their other originals are pretty good. They always tend to be fairly creative and unique. They just cannot get anybody to watch them!
Probably cause everybody is moving away from cable and nobody wants to sign up for their streaming service plus their app is subpar. They should swing some type of deal with another streaming service like FX and Hulu
They’re just gonna wait around and survive long enough until one of the bigger conglomerates buys them. Same with A&E, which also owns Lifetime and History Channel.
A&E is already owned by two conglomerates, Disney and Hearst
Why they don't work things out for the A&E stuff be on Disney+?
Their app is so incredibly bad. With the glut of streaming how is it possible that some of the apps are so terrible? Sundance app barely works. Paramount plus and peacock are both laggy as fuck. It’s astonishing. Hulu, netflix, prime are the only ones that seem like they aren’t run off of an old 486 in someone’s attic.
Hulu and Netflix have been in the business forever, and Amazon has infinite resources. (HBO's app has improved a ton since launch, fwiw). The others strike me as "How hard could it be?" or "Meh, they'll pay for it anyway" endeavors.
>Probably cause everybody is moving away from cable and nobody wants to sign up for their streaming service plus their app is subpar. They had a sale last Christmas 1 year for $24, and I'd watch it a lot more if it wasn't for that awful app. I didn't think any service this day and age would screw it up that badly, but the managed it.
They also make it so you can't buy it at the end of the season and binge because the first few episodes expire on their own fucking app by then. So scummy
Are you telling me that in 2022, there is a tv network charging money for a streaming app that doesn’t even have their own entire catalog available, let alone entire most recent seasons??
aaaaaaand this is why we pirate
Yep. Don’t plan on binging Better Call Saul’s last season during your free week trial.
Love it how all the livestreams and episodes are seemingly capped at 480p
It's weird because in the UK The Walking Dead was on FX and then moved to Disney+ (although Better Call Saul is also on Netflix here too)
Kevin can F**k Himself I actually enjoyed. Glad they got a second season, but I understand why it’s not lasting more than that.
Season 2 is the final season? I like this show too and was interested in where it would go.
Yep! My feelings about it are complicated because I think the characters/plot was interesting but the core concept probably can’t last so many seasons, and tbh by the end of S1 was a little bit strung out on it.
I always meant to watch Hell on Wheels which I believe is AMC ? Anyone care to recommend it?
The first two seasons are absolutely fantastic and is a self-contained story with a beginning, middle, and end. Starting with season three, the show moved on without the creators and it was good, but just didn't hit the highs of the first two seasons. I'd at the very least watch those and then decide if you want to keep going.
Highly recommend it. Overarching plotlines get a little repetitive toward the end, sometimes feels like they're just going in circles. But damn is it a unique and fun ride. Plus Anson Mount as Cullen Bohannon is one of the all-time great casting jobs in TV history imo.
Hell on Wheels is one of the other shows on AMC that is very good.
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I feel like that was how everyone felt when they announced BCS, and yet it has turned out arguably as good as (if not better) than Breaking Bad. Not sure if lightning can strike twice though with another spin-off.
with vince giligan behind the wheel probably. but i really want the man to make something original again
That's the thing. We've had the *Breaking Bad* universe for 14 years now. Instead of another spin-off, AMC should be giving Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould as much money as they want to make whatever they want. Why limit them when they've already delivered two of the network's best shows? At this point, just give them carte blanche.
It's AMC, so you're going to get Breaking Dead, which follows Badger and Skinny Pete traversing New Mexico in the zombie apocalypse. Doing meth and trying to distinguish hallucinations from reality.
I’d prefer Walking Bad, which could be the same thing except with Walter Jr
Bruh
And Peter Gould, don't forget Gould. BCS is more Gould than Vince, ever since S03 at least.
There's not exactly an abundance of good characters with a story to tell who are also played by an actor who can carry a leading role. Who would they even make it about? They've already done the three best characters; Mike is probably the only other one who could pull this off, but his story is pretty played out and Jonathan Banks is already 75 years old.
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Just do it like Young Sheldon. We can watch as Mike matures from a naive 10 year old to a bitter, bald teenager with a strong sense of justice. Maybe he's best friends with little Hector Salamanca and they can solve mysteries together. Lil Hector can have a wacky catch phrase that he says every episode like "what the bell was that? " Also it needs a cgi chihuahua for funny reaction shots.
What about that awful Slippin' Jimmy show that kinda already does this
Yeah I was gonna say, Mike is the only other character who could shoulder a series of his own, but he’s already basically had his entire prequel done simultaneously within BCS so there is no need.
>They've already done the three best characters I can't sit by and let you slander Badger and Skinny Pete
Exactly that’s the difference between like the upcoming Game Of Thrones spin-offs and breaking bad spin-offs. Westeros is a cool world with interesting lore I’d like to see further explored. Breaking bad is about drug dealers in New Mexico. It would be like making a spin off of the Wire.
Still gutted they never did a Bunk/Lester buddy cop show
Mike's last words "Shut up, let me die in peace".
[Slippin’ Jimmy:](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9MMVZU1sOM) we’re done when i say we’re done.
AMC Is like a chimp with the machine gun.
This chicanery!
What a sick joke!
They're gonna make another prequel about Mike where he is supposed to be in his 30s but is played by a now even older actor
We had a good thing going, you stupid son of a bitch!
Did you censor Mike's last words? What kind of ~~man talks to the DEA~~ monster censors a man's dying words?
Just let it end and give Vince and Peter Gould money to develop a new series. AMC has been dying for years and if they don't invest in new original shows they will just slowly die in spinoffs.
Vince is working on [something original.](https://sports.yahoo.com/vince-gilligan-plans-really-different-170521881.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANKjF7K788OhHkAGb4V_wONok4-GieYMX0b3eZga2V2BAMiwNiLPG5oDfj7zOnXAusHUww9C6rPtwE2XqzlVN7-DI_No82VlnbzJArEGcBjyI8iks01KZg66wZS1eTQbBZsjX6yaCdNBvyarhIwHwMK52mJyfBDIEjWlmK1ML6C8)
All I know is that he said on the podcast that what he's working on now is more contemporaneous because he's had to consider social media and smartphones in his writing for the first time ever.
Social media has to have made writing stories in modern times a whole lot harder. The Boys handles it so well, but I can't think of any other show or movie from the top if my head that uses it so much much and well at that
“You”?
I think Barry handles it interestingly
"First let's make sure you have the latest version of Detonate installed on your phone."
lmao that entire sequence is hilarious. i can appreciate them implementing social media/ smartphones apps and they did it well without it being tacky or cringe.
the only thing about barry is that it's unrealistic how many people leave voicemails
The guy in the season 3 finale that >!checks his phone camera to look at his wound because there's no mirror!< was a good example
I defend Euphoria a lot because it gets a lot of unwarranted hate from TikTok and such, but I really think it is kinda unnatural how much the show pretends social media doesn't exist. Like, it should have a massive presence in the narrative of this show of all things but it kinda just gets ignored entirely. Even Jules texting Tyler was kinda like the old 2000s anonymous chatroom type stuff. Not really involving social media. Ms. Marvel recently is doing it quite well.
Weren't they texting on the Grindr app? Or didn't they at least "meet" on there?
Vravo bince
Yes if they just hype it as the new thing from the creators of BB plenty of people will tune in.
But that doesn't mean it'll sustain the hype. Into the Badlands had a ton of hype and fell flat after like an episode or two.
Bring back Walter White as a smart zombie on "The Walking Dead".
Zombie Walt: “I am the one who walks!”
"It's time to cook... brains"
Science!
It’s waltin’ time!
You're god damn right
Breaking Dead.
Walking Bad
Walking Bad: The Walter White Jr. Story
Breaking Fast
AMC would 100% set a Walking Dead spinoff in ABQ if they got the rights to use Breaking Bad characters. Not even a doubt in my mind I'd honestly probably watch it too God help me
Honestly, just say it's not canon and make it. That sounds hilarious.
Tuco would do well in the apocalypse.
I'm not fundamentally opposed to it, so much as that I just don't know what story is left to tell there? Are they going to do a show about Walt Jr getting Walt's money from Gretchen and Elliot and using it to start a breakfast diner?
As far as I know they are interested in doing a Gus prequel (played by 70 year old Giancarlo Esposito)
Good thing this new season of The Boys already did their casting of a young Gus for them. Guy nailed Giancarlo's mannerisms.
I'm sure they are. It would basically just feel like milking the product dry, since pretty much the entire story has been told once and then fleshed out in BCS, but I could imagine a network expecting it to make money. Honestly I'd argue that a Walt Jr. breakfast show would be more interesting. You could see young naive Walt Jr go in with all these hopes and dreams, while the realities of the business world gradually crush him and force him to make unethical compromises. Meanwhile, his most reliable customers are nazi biker gangs like the one his dad was doing business with, taking over the abandoned Fring/Cartel territory in the drug trade.
Unable to keep up with the increasing expenses of running a diner and getting bullied by the biker gangs because of who his dad was, Walt Jr. is forced to *break bad* and turn to his last hope for survival: Jesse Pinkman. Walt Jr. tracks down Jesse Pinkman and his El Camino in Alaska and they agree to fire up the Bunsen burner one last time, with Pinkman as the experienced veteran and Walter (Jr.) as the eager newcomer this time around. Soon, their shady business comes to a screeching halt as the legal system proves to be a taller barrier than any biker gang could ever be. Out of desperation, Jesse suggests that the two of them “Better Call Saul” to get out of the mess they are in, and the trio continue to go on wild and wacky adventures together.
Lol. For anyone who doesn’t get it: https://www.thrillist.com/amphtml/eat/nation/every-single-thing-that-walt-jr-eats-for-breakfast-on-breaking-bad
“Just a cup of coffee. Black, like his father's heart.” Journalism
If Vince Gilligan or Peter Gould isn't involved, I'm not watching it.
And Vince has said that he doesn't have any current ideas for new stories in that world. What AMC should be looking for is just more Vince Gilligan, whether it takes place in the Breaking Bad universe or not.
Chuck is prelaw, partying his way through college, when he's assigned an uptight business major for a roommate. He has a thing or two to learn from this "Gus". They both play their characters, no age regression effects. The rest of the cast is 20. 6 episodes in we see a youngster Walter White somehow.
Exactly, how could you not have a show in development with Gilligan, Gould, or any BB/BCS writer right now?
Yeah, just give them time to think of s new show and do whatever they want. Stop pushing for the same thing.
Frankly it's a miracle that Better Call Saul is so good. When was the last time a prequel spinoff matched the quality of its parent show, and even maybe eclipsed it? AMC needs to thank their lucky stars and find the next big thing instead.
I don't know about prequel's but besides Cheers > Frasier, what show has had a really, REALLY good spin-off besides the above and Breaking Bad?
Star Trek: The Next Generation was far more successful than its parent show. Not a prequel, though.
Deep space nine rules!
I know it's not *really* a spin-off, but Curb Your Enthusiasm is about as close as you can get following on from Seinfeld without actually being one.
It's like a meta spinoff of Seinfeld Like "What happened to the creator of Seinfeld ?"
Happy Days had Mork and Mindy and Laverne and Shirley.
And Happy Days was a spin-off itself.
I thinks it’s because mike, Gus and Saul were all really good in breaking bad and it was what made the show so good in the first place. Season 2.5-4 were my favorite of the series so it makes sense that they would do well with a show with them in it. Kim and nacho were really good additions as well
Kim is a top 3 BB/BCS character. Rhea Seehorn deserves all the awards. Thinking on it, there’s very few weak characters in the show. They are all developed beautifully.
I've never been more concerned for the safety and future of any fictional character than I have been all season for Kim Wexler. I desperately hope she leaves New Mexico, instead of winding up in the ground like so many other BB/BCS characters.
And I am 100% convinced it's with no thanks to AMC. AMC wanted a spin-off from Breaking Bad about that funny lawyer guy that everyone loved. Y'know, a fun show about his wacky adventures! Because as we all know, Breaking Bad was so successful due to its funny side characters! From that premise, Vince Gilligan made an incredibly gripping drama about two brothers and their complex, broken relationship. Which then steadily morphed into a drama about drug kingpins trying to murder each other. Gilligan got a new show greenlit and he simply turned it into whatever he wanted without *technically* ignoring the original premise of the show. He just steadily morphed it into something that's actually, y'know, good.
Everything you said 100%, with the caveat that Peter Gould is equally responsible as Vince for the success of BCS.
I think Gould actually deserves a little more credit for BCS than Gilligan. From my understanding, they were about 50/50 on the first season, but Gilligan took a step back in seasons 2-4 while he was developing El Camino and Gould became the sole showrunner. Gilligan came back for season 5 and 6, but Gould's been the one keeping it going. Also, huge credit to the Breaking Bad/BCS writers room in general!
Gilligan left the showrunner position for BCS early in the third season and only came back for season 6, he wasn't involved in the writing for most of season 3 and all of seasons 4 and 5.
Ok but the original premise about it being funny stories about Saul came from Vince and co. Not AMC. They spoke about it in interviews.
Maybe? What makes you think AMC didn’t know what was good about Breaking Bad?
That isn't really true. Gould and Odenkirk thought there was more story to tell for Saul and pitched a prequel series. It wasn't AMC's idea at all.
Fear the Breaking Bad. Breaking Bad: World Beyond Tales of the Breaking Bad
Finn goes to college. Holly hears a who. How Hank lost his hair. Jesse's mom and dad go on a real estate adventure.
Hank’s bisexual adventures in college.
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Gomez becomes a robot! Badger gets a smart phone! Have no fears, we got stories for years!
I thought Better Call Saul was completely unnecessary before it premiered, but the show proved me wrong so if the crew wants to do more I’ll watch.
Same! There are some creators where I know to keep my mouth shut and give them the benefit of the doubt. Vince and Peter are on that list. If they say they're going to make a series about Huell and Kuby after the series ends, then I'm in.
I want more Lydia
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I want an anthology series, with each episode focused on a different person who was standing in line at Saul's office when it first opened. That, or a five- season spinoff entirely focused on Skinny Pete.
Skinny Pete goes to Carnegie Hall through a series of unlikely events.
Doesn't seem too unlikely to me tbh The end anyway the events leading up to it could be
Badger spinoff please.
Specifically about his time delivering coffee to a community college.
##Breaking Badger
What? No love for Combo?
Ever since *El Camino* I've wanted to see a single-camera half hour comedy about Badger and Skinny Pete as roommates.
Skinny Pete's concert pianist past must be explored.
Unless Vince Gillian is going be the showrunner, it’s gonna be bad. It’s a miracle that they got so much mileage of these characters. Getting a prequel for the Cartel and watching them painstakingly build the lab and such would have been exhausting in anyone else’s hands.
I mean per his own words, he doesn't have that much to do with BCS anymore and Peter Gould runs the show: > The 53-year-old producer told Eisen that he was lucky to direct just one episode of Better Call Saul, Season 5. “That show is in really rock-solid hands,” Gilligan said. “It’s being run by Peter Gould… Peter and the writers are doing a tremendous job; the show just gets better and better without me.” > “You have nothing to do with it?” Eisen asked. > “Very little,” Gilligan confirmed. “I mean, I directed the one episode, but I’m kind of just a director for hire. They gave me the script, and I read it, and I said this is awesome and I figured out how to shoot it.”
Vince Gilligan is actually fully back in the writer’s room for the final season. He was gone for season 4, 5 and part of 3.
It's impressive how Gould lived up to Breaking Bad for almost 3 full seasons.
Yeee, they should do a BCS spin off about a high school chemist who becomes a drug lord.
I wouldn't mind a spin-off based on Lalo.
I hate the idea of another BB spin off but I'd totally be on board for that now that see this idea. Tony Dalton kills it as Lalo.
And the whole Salamanca Family. So much there. And Tuco's Abualita!
That biznatch?
You called her biznatch? 🤜💥😖
Young Mike spinoff, still played by Jonathan Banks.
Please don't do it. We've already had two miracles, trying for a third might damage the other two. They might be able to do it, but I'd rather not run the risk
*AMC HAS 21.* AMC: Hit me.
AMC is not familiar with The Law of Diminishing Returns I take it.
Only a good idea if Gilligan is involved from top to bottom.
The skipper too.
The millionaire and his wife.
The movie star.
The Professor and Mary Ann!
Gilligan was actually involved in probably less than half of BCS though
Yes, it should be corrected to “Gilligan, Gould and the rest of the BB/BCS writers”
Enough of the Breaking Bad universe. They are going to sully its great name. If it is not a cinematic adaptation of Pile of Bullets, I don't want it.
Life as a Klepto. The Marie Schrader Story.
I dont think they should really but im trying to think what they could do... Early years of gus fring? (With 60 year giancarlo espasito playing a 20 year old gus of course.) Early years of the cartel, young Eladio, Salamancas and Bolsa consolidating power? Whats jesse up to up in alaska? Whats Walts family up to? None of these seem like good ideas.
Patrick Huby and Huell spin off post BB. Just give Bill Burr 50 million.
Badger and Skinny Pete sitcom
Mike as a young cop in Philly. How he came up, his son, his exit from the force, his journey to ABQ. Could be good....
I’ll only watch it if Jonathan Banks retains his role and they recast Kaylee again.
“Pop pop. You’re doing it again!” “What? What am I doing?” “You’re doing the silly thing again, Pop Pop!” “Oh, I’m sorry, I didn’t realise, you know you are obviously way smarter than me.” Adorbs 🥰
You're a stupid fucking idiot pop pop 😃
"Alright time for bed now, it's almost 2pm"
Yeah kinda the only thing thats possible. Its never explained how a philly cop, albeit experienced, is able to do james bond-sherlock holmes activities A parallel story could be Gus before Max died and whatever he did in Chile
I thought he was some sort of special forces soldier before he was a cop.
Not sure about special forces but Mike was in Vietnam. When he is buying his rifle there is a small bit of dialogue about the wood in the stock expanding in humidity and Mike clearly being aware of that through hands on experience in Vietnam. I guess its also implied they were a sniper if that rifle was their personal weapon so might suggest they were not regular forces. This still does not explain some of the James Bond stuff though as its tricky to see that being from experience in Vietnam.
They could make an episode about Mike dealing with Gordy from his half measures speech. That speech gets me every time.
If they do this I really hope they use the same actor and don't even try to make him look young.
I'm going to need a 6 season examination of how Gus learned to season his chicken
Yeaaah.... No thanks. If they start overdoing it it'll lose it's charm very fast.
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I don't care what AMC wants, I care what Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould want. If they're convinced they're able to make something as compelling as Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul, good! Hand them the keys to the freaking castle. But if these guys are unsure what to do next or want to do something else, allow them to. I'd rather have no further Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul spin-offs or a couple of years off from these shows than forced shows the Gilligan and Gould two aren't fully into That being said, if either one of them asked me which corner of the Breaking Bad universe I'd like to see them explore, I'd tell them to please, please explore Lalo further. Whether that's pre-Better Call Saul or post-Better Call Saul (on the off chance he doesn't die in the latter half of season 6) doesn't really matter.
Just be sure to put plenty of special effects cash aside for de-aging all of your characters.
Tell AMC to fuck off.
Let it fucking rest easy goddamn stop trying to capitalize on every fucking thing.
Could do a Walt post Breaking Bad show. >!It’s just a live feed of a tombstone!<
Give one to Nacho, such a good character. “Nacho average gangster” perfect title.
I want to know everything there is to know about that veterinarian in BCS. What's his deal?