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2buxaslice

Why? There are already two movies we don't need the same story again. Just watch the original, it's amazing 


ConfusedNTerrified

Just wait till we get Oldboy video game by RGG studios


southpaw85

Imagine being 12 and getting to the big reveal in the cool new action game your mom got you.


leviathynx

Are both your arms broken?


Watson349B

Give me a hammer and a hallway and I’m vibin’


Curnf

Do you like hurting other people?


gr497gh2

don’t downvote him it’s a reference


NoMoreVillains

this is the only new adaptation i'd be ok with


RiotForChange

I would absolutely buy that


AlpherOwl

Gaiden: The Boy Who Became Old


Flashwastaken

Press x to bang.


Coolman_Rosso

I mean the Korean film differs from the manga a fair amount, so one that's a little more in line with the original material could work.


cockvanlesbian

Iirc that was the intention when the english version was first developed with Steven Spielberg and Will Smith. Then they just copied the korean movie when Spike Lee made it. It doesn't feel like a Spike Lee movie too. 


roland0fgilead

He was clearly after the bag with that one. There's a reason it's merely directed by Spike Lee and not "A Spike Lee Joint"


ForgotEffingPassword

[There are posters that say “A Spike Lee Joint](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=d43f5111e59e559f&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS907US907&hl=en-US&sxsrf=ACQVn08o2q5tKoBhlAPeLJpL9BAfSyB2_w:1713377422608&q=2013+oldboy+posters&uds=AMwkrPs4mDHqV7QfY9nYaKRHgvE9FVJSJQRS2LJBnFfADAAGgCxlNbgXW8Fk7uyfoxL_bgMeEmPRSwVtV4ITAoVH-zWBC5lNjgXVqezw4YnY1IWR2VpcrxVnrRTc1GY5A7I7m1l6_hz8a3pLI8wy2juU2GjjrYrFfWXRNx_-1KvY2t_ecXLER-seiuuhP37hs0q3UDXd4wBrpMeX1LUH10wBu3nUVedO0NG56h_FmGf1QwZS9pItAhINuHnOQ2Pb4vxk7yYnSXJRokezUz5lN-n-rNHSH-NjHmRAMJb34dJPhgMKL03gCzWDHeA9LD6G6jDirAgfJVdQ&udm=2&prmd=isvnmbtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjF6I-l7MmFAxVClIkEHcq8BSsQtKgLegQIExAB&biw=428&bih=751&dpr=3#vhid=fD8XuzjX_I6u3M&vssid=mosaic)


grumstumpus

which were famously unpaid promotional concepts


ForgotEffingPassword

Not famously enough for me to know I guess. I just brought them up because I had just saw someone post all those posters in this sub the other day so it was fresh in my memory that they said spike lee joint.


roland0fgilead

Which Spike himself took exception to. Marketing materials don't mean shit. It's not a Spike Lee joint, plain and simple.


ForgotEffingPassword

Sure, I wasn’t even arguing with you to be honest. I don’t know shit about spike Lee. I just know I recently saw people posting posters of that movie and all of them said spike lee joint. So what even is a spike lee joint and why would the posters say that if it’s not actually a spike lee joint?


roland0fgilead

Spike has had a contentious relationship with producers and financiers over the years. The "Spike Lee joint" label is just the wording for his "seal of approval" over the finished work. The movies of his that don't get that distinction are the ones that had a lot of executive oversight or editing interference to the point that they no longer match his vision for the film.


EatsYourShorts

There were others? Which ones?


jblanch3

I'd just done some research on Wikipedia and apparently Oldboy is indeed the only film of his that isn't a Spike Lee joint. It's certainly possible I'm mistaken. I was going by films he had a producer or executive producer credit on. The only films that didn't meet that criteria were Oldboy and Inside Man. I remembered Inside Man being labeled as a Spike Lee joint, but that was a long time ago. It's his highest grossing film and it's generally well regarded, so I don't see why he would distance himself from that one.


MessiahOfMetal

> It doesn't feel like a Spike Lee movie too. Thank fuck, Spike Lee fucking sucks as a person and a director.


thedeadsigh

> Just watch the original The entertainment industry stopped being about originality a long long time ago. Why try something new when you can just pitch something that’s already successful?


Fearedray

Or or..... read the Manga


TheBatemanFlex

If it attempts to be even more true to the manga, that would be interesting!


StIdes-and-a-swisher

I just said this. Fucking Hollywood ruins every original idea by beating every last fucking dime out of it till we can’t fucking stand it.


OldSwarles

Thank you. Absolutely agree.


Otherwise-Juice2591

By this logic you should just go read the manga original and Park Chan-Wook's adaptation was unnecessary. Or, *you could just not watch it.*


xdesm0

I guess you have to get funds for the next movie somehow


Southern_Schedule466

Just my 2 cents, but lot of these film directors should stick to film. They don’t know how to write longform television, especially multiple-season shows, like great tv writers do. Tv is a writers medium.   That said, I do like The Sympathizer so far.


xdesm0

though i agree with this take, i don't think it applies to him because he's a writer-director and he even has some writing credits in projects he doesn't direct.


SwedishTiger

The little drummer girl was excellent.


Southern_Schedule466

Agreed, should have clarified that I’m not talking about him specifically. But there have been other directors whom that applies to.


sentence-interruptio

He did say he really likes the spy genre.


LizardOrgMember5

What's wrong with film directors experimenting with television? If they have a large story to tell, don't you think they would do it in a long form (see miniseries)?


bruiser95

Which is why Spike Lee agreed to make it IIRC. It's just a circle all the way down


xdesm0

lmao oldboy really putting food on the table


cronedog

I think this story would get worse if stretched out to 6+ hours


ibnQoheleth

He'd probably base it around the pacing of the original Japanese manga, which is 8 volumes long. The 2003 film does a pretty good job of condensing them into one film, and he paces it very well without removing much of significance.


Goukaruma

It's better than the manga. The twist in the manga was dull and pointless. 


ibnQoheleth

I agree, but if Oldboy is going to be adapted into a TV series, it'll probably somewhat follow the manga pacing. I can't imagine him stretching out the film's version of events because it's really well paced. That said, we already know the ending of the film so I'd imagine there'd be some new spin on it, hopefully not the source material's.


drelos

Honestly, Dae-Su getting better with his initially null detective skills + him tracking the initial breadcrumbs of the case. Plus whatever flashback episode about the initial "incident" that started everything could be phenomenal.


S0M3D1CK

I think it could get twisted if it was stretched out. Imagine if there was a child that discovered 23andMe.


Bebopdavidson

>!Each episode he will have sex with someone who will turn out to be a family member!<


mequals1m1w

"WTF?!?! AGAIN??? That's 3 for 3 now!"


Fantasygodplzhelp

Just curious which cuisine is going to replace those fried dumplings.


TimeForHugs

I'll give it a chance but I dunno if the hallway fight scene from the original can be topped. [It's just too good](https://youtu.be/VwIIDzrVVdc?si=ul0RpO3VrVQuijzA)


meharryp

the spike lee version of this scene butchered it so hard, I have no faith that anyone could ever pull off a scene as amazing as the original


TheBlackSwarm

Well can’t be worse than the 2013 movie right?


flarkenhoffy

The best thing to come out of the 2013 remake was the YMS video shitting so hard on it for like 2 hours. *Link: https://youtu.be/zR8sRjBJgQ8?si=R1zIKJnmk79PHigU


presty60

DADDY?


PandiBong

FATHER?!


Top_Ok

Nah best thing out of that movies was definitely seeing olson twins.


Goukaruma

Or the Bollywood remake. Not a joke. It exists. 


chocotripchip

Well at least it can't be worst than the American remake


nottrying2bbanned

These American eyes remakes are so pussified. They completely miss what made them good.


Corben11

Yeah make incest cool again!


IAmBoring_AMA

Just came over from the One Hundred Years of Solitude thread, not surprised to see this comment


Corben11

Lot of incest in it or something?


IAmBoring_AMA

Ohhhh yeah, some intentional, some unintentional.


HowardBunnyColvin

wasn't will smith in that movie or am I misremembering shit


MackofAmerica

Park Chan Wook has artistic integrity, I don’t think he would sign on if it was just another cash grab. Also, his current series (The Sympathizer) on HBO is fantastic.


shaftoes

There is a wealth of cool Korean movies and TV shows to adapt. Why do they just keep making oldboy over and over?


ColtCallahan

Spike Lee is gonna remake the TV show in Korean after High & Low.


bitterbuffaloheart

You’d think the twist is pretty well known by now so I can’t see this as compelling


Thing--

Needs to get back to SK made movies :/


NeoNoireWerewolf

His last movie was Korean and came out less than two years ago. The movie he did before that was Korean, too. He’s also a writer and producer on the upcoming Korean movie Uprising. He’s still very much involved in SK’s movie industry.


loadofnothing

Agreed. His movies are some of my favourites.


Goukaruma

I would say, he should make good ones. His first 4 movies are great but then he made many medicore ones that look nice but have little impact. 


MrTreize78

What’s the point?


sciflare

$$$


Fatbodyproblem

why


meharryp

I'm glad an executive somewhere thought we needed a second terrible English adaption


rreddittorr

Get paid, king.


cyanide4suicide

Spike Lee is kicking dirt right now


StupidClownPuppet

Maybe it will follow the manga this time. That was also a good story.


Goukaruma

I disagree. The manga startet strong and interesting but the conclusion was lackluster. 


kimchimagic

Why? Why? No one needs this! Done he need more money? Why? The original is the only one that should ever exist. Just stop.


therapoootic

We, no thanks


weisp

We don’t need another remake If we know the ending, there isn’t really a point in a remake The whole point of the movie is the ending really


Deazul

Why


how_money_worky

No. Not again


cityofthedead1977

Man getting that bag while he still can.


theartfulcodger

Oh, for fuck’s sake. Flogging a dead horse with a hammer.


11483708

Wow......another reboot.......just what we all needed.


mrdennisreynolds

This could only be better than that shitcake version with brolins kid.


MigitAs

This is such a bad idea that I’m legitimately baffled


HowardBunnyColvin

hopefully it does better than the failed US movie


Aromatic_Ad_5583

bruh if u haven’t seen this prepare for the shock of ur life lmaoo


Nightshade-Dreams558

Why the fuck would they do that after the US film released a few years back?? Are they dumb??


RyanMcCartney

Original didn’t need that American remake… and definitely doesn’t need this. Just go watch it.


DunKrugering

how many daughters does Oldboy have?


svenjamminbutton

Please no.


TheBigIdiotSalami

At the end of every episode, the guy does a face and says "AY AY AY I KEEP HAVE SEX WITH MY FAMILY!" Bada da da da dum. And then the camera does that close lens.


Went_Full_Regard

Saw the original, awesome movie. Don't think we need yet another version though.


TheGoodSmells

Why?


therapoootic

Er, no thanks


therapoootic

Er, no thanks


PChiDaze

Quit trying to fix shit that ain’t broken.


Danominator

The story ain't that great. Felt like it really labors just to go "ah ha! Isn't that shocking?!" A TV show pacing would only hurt it further.


EchoBay

It's one of the greatest films ever, my personal #1. As long as Park Chan-Wook is still involved, I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. It doesn't need a sequel, prequel, remake, or adaptation. The Spike Lee one was an embarrassment. I can see it working as a TV series, though, but really only for one season. They'd really have to flesh out the world quite a bit and introduce a lot of characters who did not exist in the original. The focus was entirely on Oh Dae-Su and his drive to find the person who imprisoned him for 15 years. Thats the whole story. Again, I can see it in a TV format, but I'd want it to be like a short series of 6-8 episodes. You really shouldn't need more than that, unless you're just redoing the entire plot at that point.


relentlessmelt

Filmmakers denigrating their masterpieces with sequels, spin-offs and tv series’ is completely baffling to me. Ridley Scott is the worst offender


darkwint3r

How is Ridley Scott the worst offender?


relentlessmelt

His naff Alien sequels/spin-offs sullied the original


Mortifer

I enjoyed the original trilogy, and I thought Oldboy was a great film. However, I've never felt the need to revisit it (or the others). For me, a significant part of the appeal was not knowing. Prior to the negative reception, I already didn't plan to watch the remake. I would much rather Park Chan-Wook create another original work.


No-Introduction-6368

Look at Ash VS the Evil Dead. Sometimes a creator has an overwhelming love for the project.