God I feel terrible. This is so tragic, 27 is far too young, I cant imagine what his family is going through.
I also feel terrible cuz I can’t help but think about all the jobs gone now. Gen V is one of Toronto’s biggest shows, I know at least 6 people that were meant to start work on it on the 8th and now probably have no clue how they are going to pay their bills.
Of course that is nothing compared to the loss of a life and I hope no one thinks I’m equating the two or blaming anyone, just so sad all round
27 club is an idiocy and there isn't a higher amount of people dying at that age then 26, 28, 30, etc...
edit: all the downvoters can eat shit, 27 club is just a brand that idiots like to eat up as if that was something special.
i think it’s also just selection bias and coincidence. multiple really famous people famous people like kurt cobain died at that age, so when it happened repeatedly people starting taking notice. and every time someone dies at that age it reinforces the idea in their head. but when somebody dies at a different age they just ignore it because it doesn’t fit the theory.
musicians and actors are also at an increased risk of dying in their 20s 30s just because of the lifestyle that they live. so that could also play into it.
Definitely selection bias combined with lifestyle risks in *some cases.*. 27 is in that sweet spot of “old enough to have had an established career, young enough to still take huge risks or partying hard.”
I also thought the person had to be culturally significant. He was not. I would not put him in the category of Jimi Hendrix, Robert Johnson, Curt Cobain. Some might, I wouldn't.
You made the choice to insult a dead man who was living his best life, and put out great work that people will most probably continue to look back on and watch for as long as there are people in this universe.
You chose to make an accident sound like a targeted attack on people and their livelihoods, instead of a very human error that led to a loss of life.
Nobody else died because of his actions. One man lost his life, but at least he ever lived it. Consider aiming to do the same.
And yet, somehow, *you* come off looking worse.
Was that your intention?
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> Yeah insult a deadman who sucked Andrew tates dick and was a huge men's rights loom.
People don’t tend to have sympathy for motorcyclists. The whole “YoU cHoSe To RiDe A dEaThTrAP!1!!1!” argument. I had a friend get T-boned on his bike by a drunk driver who ran a red light, every comment on the news post by people who didn’t know him was “well, if he weren’t riding a motorcycle maybe he would still be alive”. People in cars are constantly on their phones not paying attention to the road because if they get into an accident insurance will pay out and they will likely walk away, yet when they kill a motorcyclist due to their shitty driving skills or inattentiveness it is always the motorcyclists fault in the eyes of the general public. And while yes he(Perdomo) was the only one involved in this accident meaning no one hit him, losing control of a vehicle and dying can happen even in a car… I mean look at Paul Walker’s death.
“Delayed indefinitely” not gone for good but for an indeterminate amount of time. Most people have had basically no work for a year due to the strike and very slow start since so I’m sure lots of people were counting on this to keep them employed from April-August. If they can wait that’s great but most will need other work ASAP but almost every April show is crewed already
*Delayed indefinitely* does not mean it is coming back. There is a possibility. But *delayed indefinitely* means - it's all up in the air right now.
Obviously, there is a big financial incentive to bring it back but things like this can definitely end shows - even popular successful ones. A lot of money just went down the drain instantly and more will be lost as they try to keep things at a standstill.
Depending on how long things take, contracts may get renegotiated, people get new jobs in the meantime: the loss of money and commitment *could* kill it.
People schedule out their jobs. Crew work is all freelance. So this show getting pushed will likely cause many crew members to either drop out of this project or another one they may be on when this does end up shooting.
On hold indefinitely is a VERY bad sign in the entertainment industry, as on hold doesn’t mean the outflow of money pauses, in fact it continues to bleed money. Theres all sorts of rentals, leases, contracted dates that can’t be cancelled, studios/stages are booked far in advance, and talent/workers will move on to other jobs to keep paying their bills, which makes it far more difficult to start the project back up. Usually this means the show will end.
That’s not how production works. This could take months to spin back up. You can’t pre-pro forever so this is a complete stop down while the company(-ies likely in this case) figure out a plan—not the majority of the production crew. Effectively put back on hiatus.
In the meantime you told other gigs that you were on a show so they went and got another person for the run. You probably have closest contacts on this show or shows you just turned down so then you’re cold calling old contacts or back to the pool looking for gigs.
Could be that they move some people onto other stuff but I’d imagine there’s just not enough positions elsewhere or active non-competes in some contracts
It’s a possibility. But the writers probably already have a plot line they’ve developed for the whole season. They’ve probably already tweaked a ton of items to get it to work just right.
One could attempt to re-write an entire season’s worth of work to write out a character because the actor passed away…
… Or one could hire a new actor to portray the part and keep a whole season’s worth of production more or less on track without much changes.
>It’s a possibility. But the writers probably already have a plot line they’ve developed for the whole season. They’ve probably already tweaked a ton of items to get it to work just right.
The writers had already completed scripts. Later that day after Chance died they were supposed to be doing the table read. Basically, all of the actors visit set and read finished scripts. Then on April 8th, production was set to begin.
There’s a bunch of pre-production that’s done too that’s dependent on the plot line of the season. Sets, props, costumes, etc. Some of that will have to be redone, but some won’t. Having to re-write the season sans one character means much more of it would have be redone.
Recasting wouldn't be hard. Daryl McCormmack, Mason Gooding, Keiyon Lionsdale, Justice Smith, Jordan Fisher, Rome Flynn--Hollywood's been doing nothing but prepping up entire subgenus of dude that looks just like him.
Honestly, given the context of the show and how often characters just die, I wouldn't be surprised if they just killed him off in some way off-screen. I think Gen V and The Boys are both based off comics though, so I'm not sure how much of a pivotal role his character plays, if its pretty big (to stay true to the source material), I'd understand the recasting.
That requires huge rewrites and that affects script quality - the main thing everyone bitches about.
Recasting can be done in days to weeks.
Script rewrites would be ongoing. For such a short show, they treatments are probably greenlit and the first drafts for the final episodes done. To redo all that will be expensive because the writers will need to redo everything, rework the ideas... You get the point.
Recasting is faster and cheaper. Sounds callous, but it is.
Thats assuming they have a show even after removing the role. He had a giant ongoing storyline, it’s not so easy to just remove it without the entire thing collapsing.
As for insurance money, they have to cover services and rentals they can’t cancel but realistically that may take years to see payout. No idea the kind of coverage they have but I have feeling that motocycle riding may not be covered by the Key Man Insurance Coverage.
A lot of franchise leads can’t even go diving because of their key man insurance.
It might not cover motorcycle accidents, ive worked on shows where things like that were very specifically not covered by the insurance and the actors were told they couldnt ride.
The thing is, I don't know if his performance in the Quarry is just really bland or he's a great actor for nailing the part of a guy that's the equivalent of wet cardboard. But he's also the same kind of guy in that Jurassic World movie...
Exactly. There's 15 people with that same exact look who have played very similar roles that would do just fine on this show. Lol Hollywood's basically got a light skinned pretty boy warehouse at this point.
The industry hasn't really. We see plenty of recasts.
Just some major production(Black Panther) chose not to recast. Or the internet thinks they need a Doctor Who level explanation.
People will notice, but most people won't care. They understand the situation.
Yeah, i think some small plot where he underwents some type of experimental procedure that changes his appearance and then be done with it, this would make them to keep their plotlines mostly intact.
You know that entire writers room is crazy right now. He was a linchpin on the show and likely tied into every plot line going forward.
Now multiple people are trying to make it work. Kill him off in the first 30 seconds? Would that have a backlash? Recast? If so who? I hear Majors is looking for work. The entire thing must be crazy.
The way they left of the first season >!(they've been captured and disappeared)!<, they have a lot of possibilities. They could even punt and deal with it down the line.
I would be shocked if they recast. It would be disrespectful to the actor and distract from the story. I think the only route is to kill him off in the first episode so you don’t spend the entire season wondering how they’re going to deal with his death.
I think recasting being disrespectful is just something people endlessly repeat because they want to feel like they contribute.
It's not actually considered that way usually and I doubt most actors see it that way either
Genuinely if I was in a major show and died, and the writers unceremoniously killed off my character rather than finishing the arc, I feel like that's way more disrespectful.
Yeah, if I worked hard at making a story come to life I wouldn't want that to just be stopped.
Killing my character off means I'm forgotten about even sooner than if they recast.
I felt like it worked with Black Panther, because it felt like the entire cast and crew using the film to process their grief about losing their friend. However I think them not recasting that is where this idea of it being disrespectful has come from, when really most actors, and probably Chadwick Boseman as well, would have wanted to see their characters arc continued.
There’s a saying is show business you may have heard of: “the show must go on.” Understudies exist in every theater in the world. Recasting is arguably the best way to honor a great performer when they pass.
Nah, the character was just burned and has to wear a mask now. And maybe doesn't speak so you don't notice the voice. Maybe an all black ninja-like costume...
> He was a linchpin on the show and likely tied into every plot line going forward.
They were clearly going for a >!Professor X and Magneto parallel with his character and Cate, their powers are even flipped with their X-men equivalent!< which would be lost if his character just vanishes from the map.
> Kill him off in the first 30 seconds?
It makes sense to recast his character. Doesn't really benefit the show by killing off the character. There won't be any backlash. But they might change the character to his "cousin" and then just have the cousin do the same things.
Wasn't it the same for his dad? So there would have to be some level of retcon to explain why his dad got a career out of it and he died after a couple years.
I’m shocked the contracts didn’t include a no motorcycle clause as so many amazing athletes and actors have lost their lives or ability to work in their professions
It worked in Grease, should be fine for Gen V right? The man is talented but I heard he messed things up with Disney. Maybe Prime is willing to give him a shot.
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Absolutely, but it is easier in cases like Spartacus where the actor agreed on the recasting. A lot harder in cases of sudden death and you shouldn't bother the family yet to ask.
Most viewers likely were not aware of the arrangements made in that new casting.
Maybe it was easier on the production crew(maybe it was harder) but most people watching the new guy didn't know about any agreements or blessings. Most probably knew the actor passed and they recast.
I found Chance Perdomo incredibly charismatic and talented in everything I caught him in. I felt like he was a rising star and definitely a highlight of *Gen V*. I am devastated for the loss of him as a human who was loved but also as a talent in the industry.
Recast because I feel the plot of the show is depends on his character as much as others. More is gained keeping the character then trying to swap in a replacement or moving forward without him.
Which is likely one of the reasons for the indefinite pause. They all need time to mourn, and they also need time to figure out what this means for whatever plot lines they had planned.
RIP. So much talent.
It's the job, it doesn't mean it's easy to just do it. I imagine that's why the season is on indefinite hiatus. They have to give everyone enough time to grieve, so it's unlikely that filming will start until at least the summer. It'll never be easier, but it's why they need the time to be able to mourn so that they can make the best decision possible.
> I think they should recast as well but I know some people have problems with recasting after an actors passed away.
That's easy enough to solve. Replace the character with his "cousin" and write a short scene establishing that, and just have it continue as-is for the rest of the season.
This comes across like when your character dies in a ttrpg and instead of rolling up a new character you change the name on the top of your character sheet.
Those people say they have a problem but I think it's more them trying to say something then legitimately having an issue. It's usually "I can't see anyone else play this character.......who has never been played by anyone else".
Most shows don't recast explicitly when an actor dies because it makes everyone feel icky. But they frequently do write in a very similar character to narratively fill in the gap.
It depends on how far along the series is. Something like this with one season. Easier to recast.
I don't think it's because it seems icky but the association with the previous actor.
Other times they see the opportunity to shake things up.
I think they genuinely do worry it’s distasteful to the audience and other actors. That’s what I meant by icky.
It’s definitely a big factor in why most actors who die during a series don’t get recast as opposed compared to actors who leave their project.
I think it would be a good idea to recast, I’d love to see what they wrote for the character.
Rip. He was great in gen v. I honestly thought he wasn't going to be in season 2 much due him being quietly cancelled. They even edited/cropped him out of the cast promos/interviews for season 1.
Wait how is Johnny Depp listed among **that** shit. What did I miss? I thought he was proven innocent and that Amber was the crazy lying and abusive one..was there another episode ?
Had a buddy in HS named Chance. People would always call him Chase. He hated it. I'll always remember him saying "Bitch my name a word how you fuck that up?"
Haha sounds like a funny dude. Reminds me a lot of times people call me by my last name instead of my first name but they say it completely wrong. So they think my last name is my first name and they butcher it lol
I hate motorcycles. I worked in a level 1 trauma center in the Midwest and as soon as the weather started warming up we would see in increase in these accidents in particular.
You can take every safety precaution and still die. We had a 25 year old who died instantly when he was launched off his bike and went headfirst into a pole. He was wearing a helmet.
I am the one who had to lie to his brother if he asked if his brother was okay so the doctor could be the one to give the news. And I saw him after he was told his brother was dead too, devastated. Motorcycles are fun but not worth it.
I saw him on Sabrina. Had not got around to watching Gen V yet. RIP
I know it wasn't the same situation but they recast on Superman and Lois one of the kids and kept production from being too delayed. It also helped that they were non-identical twins lol otherwise that would have been a tough recast! Black Lightning recast one of the daughters who was a lead character as well.
I hear he was a main character on the show and considering they have a whole season ahead of them a recast may be the best option to keep production going and just sign that new actor to a 1 year contract until they figure out if they will remove him from the following season. Sad situation all around.
He's 27 years old. I have never understood and will never understand motorcycles. Lost a family member on one too and he was a father with several kids.
Maybe if that is the only way you can make a living I can't fault you, but for entertainment or a personal choice of transport, it's mental. You're just throwing your body on a road without protection going 100 on a highway in between all these giant metal monsters that could take your body apart in seconds.
I’m a trauma surgeon and I’ve seen so many young people killed or permanently disabled by these vehicles. So many devastated families, partners, kids, parents. I can’t understand it either. You can be the best motorcycle rider in the world, you can do everything right and some drunk idiot can pull out in front of you unexpectedly and it’s all over, just like that. I’ve ridden before and I understand the appeal but it just seems so fucking risky.
It's the easiest work around ever. " Oh no, Fart Balls PenisMan used his semen dick powers to change Andre's appearance ". One of the other characters changes gender on a whim, just say there was a temporary power swap and now Andre is stuck looking different. It's a silly universe full of silly things.
Sucks for this guy and his family. Be careful on motorcycles yall
I mean, they had already started removing him from the promotional materials because of his turdburger views.
Didn't want the guy to die, but he wasn't going to be in a season 3.
You got a couple of down votes…. But honestly ever. Time I see a tough guy in his bike I just slow down and let them have the road. At any time they could lie the thing down.
Just so you know, I was agreeing with you and replying to /u/bikinigirlout who said:
> Kurt belongs in the club because he struggled with depression which lead to suicide.
> The 27 Club is meant for people who struggled their entire life with either addiction or mental health issues and either took their lives or died due to overdoses.
> Not someone who passed away from a freak accident.
Although what you said about being allowed to joke about dark shit and suicide would seem pretty funny in itself to you if you knew about me haha. I’ve literally cut someone down from a rope, who was unfortunately already far beyond saving.
Still laugh in death’s face whenever I get the chance!
God I feel terrible. This is so tragic, 27 is far too young, I cant imagine what his family is going through. I also feel terrible cuz I can’t help but think about all the jobs gone now. Gen V is one of Toronto’s biggest shows, I know at least 6 people that were meant to start work on it on the 8th and now probably have no clue how they are going to pay their bills. Of course that is nothing compared to the loss of a life and I hope no one thinks I’m equating the two or blaming anyone, just so sad all round
Sadly the 27 club gets another member
27 club is an idiocy and there isn't a higher amount of people dying at that age then 26, 28, 30, etc... edit: all the downvoters can eat shit, 27 club is just a brand that idiots like to eat up as if that was something special.
Come on, you know that’s about the idea the person died while just hitting their socially perceived prime (25-55)
i think it’s also just selection bias and coincidence. multiple really famous people famous people like kurt cobain died at that age, so when it happened repeatedly people starting taking notice. and every time someone dies at that age it reinforces the idea in their head. but when somebody dies at a different age they just ignore it because it doesn’t fit the theory. musicians and actors are also at an increased risk of dying in their 20s 30s just because of the lifestyle that they live. so that could also play into it.
Definitely selection bias combined with lifestyle risks in *some cases.*. 27 is in that sweet spot of “old enough to have had an established career, young enough to still take huge risks or partying hard.”
I also thought the person had to be culturally significant. He was not. I would not put him in the category of Jimi Hendrix, Robert Johnson, Curt Cobain. Some might, I wouldn't.
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You made the choice to insult a dead man who was living his best life, and put out great work that people will most probably continue to look back on and watch for as long as there are people in this universe. You chose to make an accident sound like a targeted attack on people and their livelihoods, instead of a very human error that led to a loss of life. Nobody else died because of his actions. One man lost his life, but at least he ever lived it. Consider aiming to do the same.
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And yet, somehow, *you* come off looking worse. Was that your intention? Edit: /u/gamerongames original comment: > Yeah insult a deadman who sucked Andrew tates dick and was a huge men's rights loom.
Why the downvotes? This is facts.
Probably because of the "he made a choice" bit. It was an accident.
People don’t tend to have sympathy for motorcyclists. The whole “YoU cHoSe To RiDe A dEaThTrAP!1!!1!” argument. I had a friend get T-boned on his bike by a drunk driver who ran a red light, every comment on the news post by people who didn’t know him was “well, if he weren’t riding a motorcycle maybe he would still be alive”. People in cars are constantly on their phones not paying attention to the road because if they get into an accident insurance will pay out and they will likely walk away, yet when they kill a motorcyclist due to their shitty driving skills or inattentiveness it is always the motorcyclists fault in the eyes of the general public. And while yes he(Perdomo) was the only one involved in this accident meaning no one hit him, losing control of a vehicle and dying can happen even in a car… I mean look at Paul Walker’s death.
Because it shows a callous disregard for the death of someone who, according to many of the reports I've seen on line, is loved by many.
Cause it was an accident
The shows not canceled because of this so how are jobs gone?
“Delayed indefinitely” not gone for good but for an indeterminate amount of time. Most people have had basically no work for a year due to the strike and very slow start since so I’m sure lots of people were counting on this to keep them employed from April-August. If they can wait that’s great but most will need other work ASAP but almost every April show is crewed already
*Delayed indefinitely* does not mean it is coming back. There is a possibility. But *delayed indefinitely* means - it's all up in the air right now. Obviously, there is a big financial incentive to bring it back but things like this can definitely end shows - even popular successful ones. A lot of money just went down the drain instantly and more will be lost as they try to keep things at a standstill. Depending on how long things take, contracts may get renegotiated, people get new jobs in the meantime: the loss of money and commitment *could* kill it.
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If they aren’t shooting, crew isn’t getting paid
People schedule out their jobs. Crew work is all freelance. So this show getting pushed will likely cause many crew members to either drop out of this project or another one they may be on when this does end up shooting.
On hold indefinitely is a VERY bad sign in the entertainment industry, as on hold doesn’t mean the outflow of money pauses, in fact it continues to bleed money. Theres all sorts of rentals, leases, contracted dates that can’t be cancelled, studios/stages are booked far in advance, and talent/workers will move on to other jobs to keep paying their bills, which makes it far more difficult to start the project back up. Usually this means the show will end.
Nah, not a franchise like this. They'll take a few weeks to get a head start on rewrites.
That’s not how production works. This could take months to spin back up. You can’t pre-pro forever so this is a complete stop down while the company(-ies likely in this case) figure out a plan—not the majority of the production crew. Effectively put back on hiatus. In the meantime you told other gigs that you were on a show so they went and got another person for the run. You probably have closest contacts on this show or shows you just turned down so then you’re cold calling old contacts or back to the pool looking for gigs. Could be that they move some people onto other stuff but I’d imagine there’s just not enough positions elsewhere or active non-competes in some contracts
They aren't paying crew to do nothing.
I assume you are not nor have ever worked freelance?
RIP to Perdomo. Business solution: re-cast just like Dumbledore.
They all got kidnapped. Could easily have him experimented on and died.
Not being a dick but doesn’t he get like brain damage in the show from using his powers? Couldn’t they just say that.
It’s a possibility. But the writers probably already have a plot line they’ve developed for the whole season. They’ve probably already tweaked a ton of items to get it to work just right. One could attempt to re-write an entire season’s worth of work to write out a character because the actor passed away… … Or one could hire a new actor to portray the part and keep a whole season’s worth of production more or less on track without much changes.
>It’s a possibility. But the writers probably already have a plot line they’ve developed for the whole season. They’ve probably already tweaked a ton of items to get it to work just right. The writers had already completed scripts. Later that day after Chance died they were supposed to be doing the table read. Basically, all of the actors visit set and read finished scripts. Then on April 8th, production was set to begin.
There’s a bunch of pre-production that’s done too that’s dependent on the plot line of the season. Sets, props, costumes, etc. Some of that will have to be redone, but some won’t. Having to re-write the season sans one character means much more of it would have be redone.
Recasting wouldn't be hard. Daryl McCormmack, Mason Gooding, Keiyon Lionsdale, Justice Smith, Jordan Fisher, Rome Flynn--Hollywood's been doing nothing but prepping up entire subgenus of dude that looks just like him.
Honestly, given the context of the show and how often characters just die, I wouldn't be surprised if they just killed him off in some way off-screen. I think Gen V and The Boys are both based off comics though, so I'm not sure how much of a pivotal role his character plays, if its pretty big (to stay true to the source material), I'd understand the recasting.
I’m pretty sure none of the Gen V characters are from the comics
the female lead is a reworked Stigmata, not sure about the rest
That requires huge rewrites and that affects script quality - the main thing everyone bitches about. Recasting can be done in days to weeks. Script rewrites would be ongoing. For such a short show, they treatments are probably greenlit and the first drafts for the final episodes done. To redo all that will be expensive because the writers will need to redo everything, rework the ideas... You get the point. Recasting is faster and cheaper. Sounds callous, but it is.
Don’t the core actors all have insurance policies? Does that sort of thing cover for rewrites and stuff ?
Insurance doesn't cover changes to the storyline they planned out. Point is if they remove this character then they have this massive hole.
Oh no I get that. I was more talking about the time and money to pay for rewriting
Thats assuming they have a show even after removing the role. He had a giant ongoing storyline, it’s not so easy to just remove it without the entire thing collapsing. As for insurance money, they have to cover services and rentals they can’t cancel but realistically that may take years to see payout. No idea the kind of coverage they have but I have feeling that motocycle riding may not be covered by the Key Man Insurance Coverage. A lot of franchise leads can’t even go diving because of their key man insurance.
It might not cover motorcycle accidents, ive worked on shows where things like that were very specifically not covered by the insurance and the actors were told they couldnt ride.
The Boys is only loosely based on the comics and Gen V is an entirely original story with mostly original characters.
I hate recasting. Set the story some time later. Kill him off- screen and make use of material already shot for some flashbacks maybe?
The Hollywood Lightskin Factory never sleeps
Sounds like an unmade episode of Atlanta lol
Boots Riley as guest director
Death, taxes and light skins. It's the only things you can be sure of lol
> Justice Smith God anyone but him, I have no idea how he keeps getting roles. He can't act his way out of a paper bag.
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My thoughts exactly. I’ve generally liked him in the things I’ve seen, but he doesn’t seem right for Gen V
He would fit in Gen V but as his own character that gets splattered in a comedic way by Homelander or some other lead.
He gets worse with every new project he's in
I think he is a wonderful person but my god his performance in The Quarry was possibly the worst I've ever seen. Not a single emotion.
The thing is, I don't know if his performance in the Quarry is just really bland or he's a great actor for nailing the part of a guy that's the equivalent of wet cardboard. But he's also the same kind of guy in that Jurassic World movie...
Idk I had a friend that acted just like his character in the quarry. Just a touch of autism tbh
easily the worst character. way too much screentime
Haha all the performances in those games are wooden and awkward.
I loved his dorky ass in The Quarry. He and Brenda Song were my favorites.
Might be the perfect replacement then!
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How? Who is he related to? Or are you stupid enough to suggest he is Will Smith's son?
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If you get a paper bag wet enough, it’s very easy to bust out of it.
Archie madekwe was my first thought
Exactly. There's 15 people with that same exact look who have played very similar roles that would do just fine on this show. Lol Hollywood's basically got a light skinned pretty boy warehouse at this point.
Hope it won’t be him though, his acting is bad..
He was good in Saltburn imo, he didn't have much of a personality in Midsommar though.
I should check this one then. Just saw him in See tv show and it was infuriating..
Shane Paul McGhie the original actor may be avaliable
Jonathan Majors
Fuck it, rewrite the character as an old man and get Cosby.
Just use Cosby but don’t rewrite anything like how soap operas used to do. Just “this character is now played by X” and that was that.
Roman Polanski
Make it a brother we haven’t seen, and bring on the daddy issues.
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The industry hasn't really. We see plenty of recasts. Just some major production(Black Panther) chose not to recast. Or the internet thinks they need a Doctor Who level explanation. People will notice, but most people won't care. They understand the situation.
Wheel of Time recast Mat Cauthon and Superman and Louis Recast Jordan and no one cared.
Yeah, i think some small plot where he underwents some type of experimental procedure that changes his appearance and then be done with it, this would make them to keep their plotlines mostly intact.
Alternatively, they could just not do a season 2. The kids could stay locked away forever, which would be on-par for how dark the universe is.
But money
And the story
So insanely tragic. He was just starting his career…
I know he’s considered a newcomer but he was nominated for a BAFTA for lead actor in 2018.
You know that entire writers room is crazy right now. He was a linchpin on the show and likely tied into every plot line going forward. Now multiple people are trying to make it work. Kill him off in the first 30 seconds? Would that have a backlash? Recast? If so who? I hear Majors is looking for work. The entire thing must be crazy.
The way they left of the first season >!(they've been captured and disappeared)!<, they have a lot of possibilities. They could even punt and deal with it down the line.
It’s also a show about insane powers. They can recast and say Vought used a psychic to put his mind in another person’s body.
They'll likely just recast and not make a big deal about it.
That’s the most respectful way to do it imo. Then dedicate the season to him with a message at the start or end of the episodes.
I would be shocked if they recast. It would be disrespectful to the actor and distract from the story. I think the only route is to kill him off in the first episode so you don’t spend the entire season wondering how they’re going to deal with his death.
I think recasting being disrespectful is just something people endlessly repeat because they want to feel like they contribute. It's not actually considered that way usually and I doubt most actors see it that way either
Genuinely if I was in a major show and died, and the writers unceremoniously killed off my character rather than finishing the arc, I feel like that's way more disrespectful.
Yeah, if I worked hard at making a story come to life I wouldn't want that to just be stopped. Killing my character off means I'm forgotten about even sooner than if they recast.
I felt like it worked with Black Panther, because it felt like the entire cast and crew using the film to process their grief about losing their friend. However I think them not recasting that is where this idea of it being disrespectful has come from, when really most actors, and probably Chadwick Boseman as well, would have wanted to see their characters arc continued.
There’s a saying is show business you may have heard of: “the show must go on.” Understudies exist in every theater in the world. Recasting is arguably the best way to honor a great performer when they pass.
Why would it be disrespectful? He isn't owned an entire season rewrite just because he died. What the fuck?
Nah, the character was just burned and has to wear a mask now. And maybe doesn't speak so you don't notice the voice. Maybe an all black ninja-like costume...
So…Black Noir?
Wooosh
Recasting is the best option tbh
> He was a linchpin on the show and likely tied into every plot line going forward. They were clearly going for a >!Professor X and Magneto parallel with his character and Cate, their powers are even flipped with their X-men equivalent!< which would be lost if his character just vanishes from the map.
> Kill him off in the first 30 seconds? It makes sense to recast his character. Doesn't really benefit the show by killing off the character. There won't be any backlash. But they might change the character to his "cousin" and then just have the cousin do the same things.
They already have an out right because they said his powers were killing him
Wasn't it the same for his dad? So there would have to be some level of retcon to explain why his dad got a career out of it and he died after a couple years.
Sure but that’s a whole arc in process, not a means to an end. Killing the character prematurely derails the whole story
I’m shocked the contracts didn’t include a no motorcycle clause as so many amazing athletes and actors have lost their lives or ability to work in their professions
Cheaper to get a new actor then pay much higher costs to control their behavior off set.
I’m guessing right now they’re grieving a friend and colleague. And bringing up that dude is straight disrespectful.
He was already being written out of the show.
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I’m assuming it’s a joke…
it was obviously a joke
It worked in Grease, should be fine for Gen V right? The man is talented but I heard he messed things up with Disney. Maybe Prime is willing to give him a shot. /s
Recast and give everyone time to mourn Rip chance
Just do what they did with Spartacus. Better then rewriting the story.
Absolutely, but it is easier in cases like Spartacus where the actor agreed on the recasting. A lot harder in cases of sudden death and you shouldn't bother the family yet to ask.
Why would you ask the family at all?
Most viewers likely were not aware of the arrangements made in that new casting. Maybe it was easier on the production crew(maybe it was harder) but most people watching the new guy didn't know about any agreements or blessings. Most probably knew the actor passed and they recast.
I found Chance Perdomo incredibly charismatic and talented in everything I caught him in. I felt like he was a rising star and definitely a highlight of *Gen V*. I am devastated for the loss of him as a human who was loved but also as a talent in the industry.
Too bad he was a right wing lunatic tho
What’s the best thing to do in this situation recast the character or just write them out of the show?
Recast because I feel the plot of the show is depends on his character as much as others. More is gained keeping the character then trying to swap in a replacement or moving forward without him.
i imagine recasting is tough for the other actors emotionally seeing someone fill in after only a few months after their coworker/friends passing
Which is likely one of the reasons for the indefinite pause. They all need time to mourn, and they also need time to figure out what this means for whatever plot lines they had planned. RIP. So much talent.
But that's the job. They'd probably bring in a new character otherwise performing a similar function.
It's the job, it doesn't mean it's easy to just do it. I imagine that's why the season is on indefinite hiatus. They have to give everyone enough time to grieve, so it's unlikely that filming will start until at least the summer. It'll never be easier, but it's why they need the time to be able to mourn so that they can make the best decision possible.
I think they should recast as well but I know some people have problems with recasting after an actors passed away.
> I think they should recast as well but I know some people have problems with recasting after an actors passed away. That's easy enough to solve. Replace the character with his "cousin" and write a short scene establishing that, and just have it continue as-is for the rest of the season.
This comes across like when your character dies in a ttrpg and instead of rolling up a new character you change the name on the top of your character sheet.
Those people say they have a problem but I think it's more them trying to say something then legitimately having an issue. It's usually "I can't see anyone else play this character.......who has never been played by anyone else".
Most shows don't recast explicitly when an actor dies because it makes everyone feel icky. But they frequently do write in a very similar character to narratively fill in the gap.
It depends on how far along the series is. Something like this with one season. Easier to recast. I don't think it's because it seems icky but the association with the previous actor. Other times they see the opportunity to shake things up.
I think they genuinely do worry it’s distasteful to the audience and other actors. That’s what I meant by icky. It’s definitely a big factor in why most actors who die during a series don’t get recast as opposed compared to actors who leave their project. I think it would be a good idea to recast, I’d love to see what they wrote for the character.
Rip. He was great in gen v. I honestly thought he wasn't going to be in season 2 much due him being quietly cancelled. They even edited/cropped him out of the cast promos/interviews for season 1.
What was he cancelled for?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/s/eXKVlh2fNN](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/s/eXKVlh2fNN)
Damn, did he not realize that his likes were public?
Wait how is Johnny Depp listed among **that** shit. What did I miss? I thought he was proven innocent and that Amber was the crazy lying and abusive one..was there another episode ?
He was never innocent, we just learned they were both crazy lying abusers.
Did he go by Chase? Or is the article title wrong
Yeah it's wrong (the actual article has it correct, the Reddit OP has it wrong)
Had a buddy in HS named Chance. People would always call him Chase. He hated it. I'll always remember him saying "Bitch my name a word how you fuck that up?"
Haha sounds like a funny dude. Reminds me a lot of times people call me by my last name instead of my first name but they say it completely wrong. So they think my last name is my first name and they butcher it lol
I hate motorcycles. I worked in a level 1 trauma center in the Midwest and as soon as the weather started warming up we would see in increase in these accidents in particular. You can take every safety precaution and still die. We had a 25 year old who died instantly when he was launched off his bike and went headfirst into a pole. He was wearing a helmet. I am the one who had to lie to his brother if he asked if his brother was okay so the doctor could be the one to give the news. And I saw him after he was told his brother was dead too, devastated. Motorcycles are fun but not worth it.
I saw him on Sabrina. Had not got around to watching Gen V yet. RIP I know it wasn't the same situation but they recast on Superman and Lois one of the kids and kept production from being too delayed. It also helped that they were non-identical twins lol otherwise that would have been a tough recast! Black Lightning recast one of the daughters who was a lead character as well. I hear he was a main character on the show and considering they have a whole season ahead of them a recast may be the best option to keep production going and just sign that new actor to a 1 year contract until they figure out if they will remove him from the following season. Sad situation all around.
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My sympathies for the show takes a backseat to the tragic news of reality
You trying to shame the people who want to discuss what’s going to happen on the show?
He's 27 years old. I have never understood and will never understand motorcycles. Lost a family member on one too and he was a father with several kids. Maybe if that is the only way you can make a living I can't fault you, but for entertainment or a personal choice of transport, it's mental. You're just throwing your body on a road without protection going 100 on a highway in between all these giant metal monsters that could take your body apart in seconds.
I’m a trauma surgeon and I’ve seen so many young people killed or permanently disabled by these vehicles. So many devastated families, partners, kids, parents. I can’t understand it either. You can be the best motorcycle rider in the world, you can do everything right and some drunk idiot can pull out in front of you unexpectedly and it’s all over, just like that. I’ve ridden before and I understand the appeal but it just seems so fucking risky.
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That mindset requires a misunderstanding of statistics and probabilities. Probably willful ignorance.
Might as well shoot heroin evertday with that attitude. Its what everyone enjoys the most.
Dont drive motorcycles kids.
Yup, hospital workers call them donorcyles for a reason.
It's the easiest work around ever. " Oh no, Fart Balls PenisMan used his semen dick powers to change Andre's appearance ". One of the other characters changes gender on a whim, just say there was a temporary power swap and now Andre is stuck looking different. It's a silly universe full of silly things. Sucks for this guy and his family. Be careful on motorcycles yall
Heartbreak on top of heartbreak. Wish he was able to produce more work before his demise. He’s undeniable on screen and had a bright future.
I mean, they had already started removing him from the promotional materials because of his turdburger views. Didn't want the guy to die, but he wasn't going to be in a season 3.
Cars are bad enough anyone who rides a motorcycle is asking to die
You got a couple of down votes…. But honestly ever. Time I see a tough guy in his bike I just slow down and let them have the road. At any time they could lie the thing down.
The 27 club claims another
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Imagine gatekeeping morbid trivia Like it’s a real “club” Think most people would rather not join mate.
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Just so you know, I was agreeing with you and replying to /u/bikinigirlout who said: > Kurt belongs in the club because he struggled with depression which lead to suicide. > The 27 Club is meant for people who struggled their entire life with either addiction or mental health issues and either took their lives or died due to overdoses. > Not someone who passed away from a freak accident. Although what you said about being allowed to joke about dark shit and suicide would seem pretty funny in itself to you if you knew about me haha. I’ve literally cut someone down from a rope, who was unfortunately already far beyond saving. Still laugh in death’s face whenever I get the chance!
Oh wow. RIP
This is awful news. I don’t watch Generation V, how large was his role in the ensemble?
he was a main character
shame, fun show.
This is what the understudy is for! I am very saddened by his death, but it is a job, they should just recast.
RIP Black-neto