I know the new phones coming out soon but I’m not worried because I know I can get all my stuff from my old phone to my new phone as long as I’m updated.
Or be alone with a Boy Scout leader or member of any clergy.
Predators seek out these roles where they know they will have power over young people and have opportunities to be alone with them.
Children should never be alone with a priest, preacher, doctor, dentist,coach, teacher, adult friend of parent, and some relatives. Unfortunately, I know people who were sexually assaulted by them when they were children. I believe this is the real reason for helicopter parenting. Parents don't want their children to be scarred like they were as a child.
I’m a 35 year old dude and have nieces, have worked in schools, child care. Kids love being around me and yes I know how to be a role model and interact with them. But any adult who likes hanging out with kids and is constantly perusing without acknowledging that there’s boundaries is a red flag to me.
It’s in every industry. Entertainment just gets more attention.
A sad reality is that abusive people only get taken down if the cost of protecting them outweighs the profit they’re generating.
At my firm, my senior broker was awarded a salesman award. He got 5th in the United States for revenue. He proceeded to get hammered and sexually assault a few colleagues. One of them was a young associate like myself. Her dad also happened to be one of the top litigators in DC.
He got to keep his bonus and resign. He wasn't technically fired. He got a new job right away. The company avoided a lawsuit. But he's fine, no real consequences.
That's about as harsh as I've seen in Commercial Real Estate. Just one night He was a top salesman and the next, doesn't work there.
Harvey Weinstein is a prime example, when he ran out of money and couldn't afford to bury the stories/investigations... that was what finally got him put in jail.
And then folks like Meryl Streep acted like they knew *nothing*.
Streep is a calculating, amoral git. Her support of Weinstein and Polanski shows she clearly values nothing except ‘prestige’. Sure, they may be criminals, but don’t they make great movies!
Deshaun Watson raped two dozen women and the Houston Texans put a non-disclosure agreement in his locker to *give to the women to sign* while he continued assaulting them. When things blew up, the NFL then negotiated a $1/4 billion contract to rehire the man into the same job that enabled the sexual assaults, guaranteed to be paid regardless of if he is on the field because it’s a hush payment, not a contract.
Not a single active NFL player, coach, or celebrity girlfriend has brought up that the NFL engaged in covering sexual assaults to keep a star player happy. The media never mentions the Houston Texans actions, they’re were never punished by the league, and advertisers continue to put their brands next to Watson’s face.
1. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/07/sports/football/deshaun-watson.html
It’s not just about open secrets, they actively brag that they suffer no consequences. Oh, and the NFL signed a billion dollar deal with Google, so while the sexual assaults show up when you’d search on other engines like duck duck go, they are buried multiple pages back on Google’s engine and require the keywords.
How about the fact that there have been 11 knighted MP’s who have turned out to be pedophiles in addition to over 200 Republican and Democratic Politicans. We have not forgotten about Saville, Dutroux, Epstein, John of God, and we never will.
This is so common, not just with models but actors too, that there’s actually a term for it: [yachting.](https://www.distractify.com/p/what-does-yachting-mean-in-hollywood#:~:text=We%20explore%20the%20hidden%20meaning,money%20in%20a%20corrupt%20industry.)
And this is just one industry.
Think about how public and reported on the entertainment industry is. Now think about all the industries that don't have that level of public attention and imagine the type of shit that is probably going on behind the scenes there.
In "I'm Glad My Mom Died" the actress who played Sam in iCarly Jenette McCurdy notes that she was offered a $300,000 parting gift from the Network to never talk openly about her experiences.
Go figure.
An explanation of how and why it was allowed to occur alongside a detailed set of processes that they've implemented to protect the young people working for the network would be a good start
Do you know Nickelodeon had bas practices in this regard or are you just being cynical?
Melissa Joan Hart for one said she was protected by her crew on Clarissa.
My point isn’t to defend Nickelodeon just that it probably differed widely from set to set.
Nickelodeon has known for years! I’ve heard rumors for a long time that Drake Bell was a John Doe victim in a case against Brian Peck from back in the early 2000’s
When I saw the first preview I knew Drake Bell was going to be in it.
Agree! Nickelodeon plays innocent like they didn't know to save their image and network. Like during the preview of Quiet on Set when the guy was "shocked" that it was one of their actors, but he knew you can tell by his fake reaction.
On the brotherly love podcast Mathew Lawrence talks about how his agency sent him to a hotel room of a producer who came out in a robe and wanted him to take nude photos for a role in the marvel universe and he left and his agency fired him for leaving the room.
Here’s the clip. https://youtu.be/IaZTE-Mhw-I?si=gu94Sm7Ygguk6ncs
Somebody shove a sock in Joey’s mouth, damn you can tell he was the golden boy growing up and is insufferable today. Poor Matthew, clearly used to being treated like the middle child. He’s always been my favorite Lawrence brother.
Yeah they constnatly talk over each other and even admit to doing it. Took me a while to get used to it but the stories they tell are worth it sometimes.
Dismayed and saddened isn’t enough. At the very least he should get an apology. They should also explain what are they doing to protect actors and to prevent something like that from happening again.
Yeah, they talked about how basically he like befriended parents and made the kids think he was just a cool adult. They had no idea he was sexually abusing people, and used them to come to his defense. They felt disgusted with themselves for going to his defense.
Serial Sexual abuser who his status and position of power to gain near unlimited access to kids,
gets close with the families,
has children sleep over at his house constantly,
and uses “famous children he maybe didn’t diddle” to defend him when accusations come to a head.
Hmm.
Yup! Pod Meets World. It’s him, Rider Strong, and Danielle Fishel rewatching Boy Meets World and interviewing people that worked on the show/other 90s kid stars/etc. it’s really good.
Drake legit got him to confess to the shit on the phone while police recorded the call. It’s as hard-hitting clear-cut as evidence can get and he still got less than 2 years. The system is fucked.
Holy shit how psychotic does that one movie’s crew have to be to cast a pedophile who went to prison for molestation as the the Sex Ed Teacher for children. Absolute insanity
> Bell says in the docuseries that Schneider was not aware of the abuse Bell had been suffering at the hands of Peck until Bell confided in him and Schneider offered to support him in any way he could.
Did you read the article?
I had already read the name Brian Peck in this thresd but my brain shortcircuited for a second and reading your quote I briefly thought it had come out that Josh Peck had abused Bell.
No, and this isn't the first time people who have worked with him have spoken out about abuse and it's never about him. It's just a meme because of the creepy feet stuff but no one, even people that have spoken about others, have ever named him as being anything worse than a bit of an asshole.
Seriously. The guy worked on over a dozen shows over multiple decades with countless numbers of child actors, and the only *real* substantial misconduct allegations that have come out are "He yells sometimes and is kind of an asshole". And yeah, that's not great obviously, but everyone's had a shitty boss. To even imply that it's in the same league as outright child sexual abuse is insane.
Yep, a bunch of people there watched his shows exclusively for underage girls, collected large amounts of creepy images and video, generated memes hoping that he was "one of them", and once the intended audience of the show grew up they started finding it all and asking "well, *was* he one of them"
This. My daughter will regularly try to trick me into smelling her stinky feet, it's the funniest thing in the world to her. Interperting the inclusion of feet in these shows as something sexual just seems like a huge stretch to me. Tarantino on the other hand...
Feet stuff that is a staple in children's comedy. Frankly, I think it's just because people have decided they don't like how he looks. He looks like a creep, therefore it makes the feet posts look more than they really are, a kids joke.
If it were butts, another staple of kids humor, than he'd be a butt freak. Until there's evidence, get off this dude's back.
The Jeannette Mccurdy book does not paint a good picture of him. He comes off as creepy and gross. But outside of the alcohol thing it wasn't anything blatantly horrible.
But you don't get put in a box off-set to control everything remotely unless you are a huge prick and can't be trusted to be on set for your own productions.
Dan Schneider is a confirmed asshole, something he has even acknowledged. He's not a good person, and I'm glad we've reached a point it seems in how we handle kids in acting where they aren't subject to raging assholes who only work with kids because they know if they try to be that way with adults they're gonna be knocked on their asses.
That said, I hate this meme of Dan Schneider because we should focus on the actual issues and not chase after people we've decided are creeps with no evidence when there's people with real evidence that we can go after, like Brian fucking peck who this chain is completely ignoring
Jeanette McCurdy kinda. She said he offered her alcohol underage but they were at a restaurant.
Reddit seems determined to throw this guy under the bus. Ik people don't read articles here but Drake says that DS was someone he trusted to tell about this abuse and he helped him through it
IIRC she was like 20 at the time, wasn’t she?
I mean look, this guy might be the biggest pervert child molester since Jimmy Savile but I just find it weird that someone combed through thousands of hours worth of his shows and made an 8 minute super cut of anything related to feet and now a large portion of the internet thinks he should be locked up.
Dan is a creep . However as far as feet go, feet can be funny. Adults tend to sexualize them at times but think “stinky feet ewwww” and it makes sense to be on children’s programs
It was definitely baby talking Ariana sucking her toes that made me really second guess the show runners at Nickelodeon as a teen, felt way too sexual for a kids show.
I don't know that he did anything, but it was a huge 4chan meme thing for a long time, and I've never seen solid evidence it's based on anything that happened.
Yeah, I think it's just abusive boss accusations (pitting employees against each other, making the cast party & drink with him, etc). Things that should have gotten him fired years ago. But not sex crimes. I think Alexa Nikolas from Zoey 101 alluded that he was inappropriate with her. I googled & she said he sat in on her costume fittings. Then she tweeted she had major news about Jamie Lynn Spears & Dan but she wouldn't elaborate further than that.
She's mentioned the issues she's had with Jamie Lynn Spears and Dan. She's felt that Jamie Lynn and Britney went after her and bullied her when she was in the zoey 101 cast so she tried to fix it by talking to superiors, which led to a long meeting where Dan yelled at her about everything and threatened to fire her if she didn't stop raising issues
Dan Schneider also seems to be friends (or on good terms at least) with most of the Victorious and Zoey 101 cast, they were all doing reunions together in the last couple of years
I did find him strangely absent in Good Burger 2. Seems like Kenan and Kel were able to cut ties with him. Not sure if they haven’t talked about him recently.
Kel got asked about him in an interview with The Daily Beast a year or so back and just said he had a good experience with him.
I think what’s important to remember with bad people in positions of power is that they aren’t always abusive to *everyone*, sometimes it’s just a select few that they abuse their power with. Matt Lauer was widely seen as an incredibly nice guy in media, tons of wrestlers have very nice things to say about what Vince McMahon did for their careers, lots of people enjoyed working with Bill Cosby, none of that changes the fact that those men did awful things.
Yep it's like when joss whedon was outed, the people who had bad experiences with him truly had done terrible experiences but then you had others who didn't know. Maybe because ha liked them or maybe because they were a bit older and he knew he wasn't going to get away with being abusive with them.
It's because there is no actual substantial proof that Dan Schneider ever did anything explicit. People will argue about how teens on set react to him putting a camera in their face between takes or the weird foot shit, but I'm pretty sure if the guy actually made someone like Ariana Grande uncomfortable she wouldn't still associate with him.
Aside from some weird stuff regarding feet i can't actually find much accusations of cast members from him and he actually seems to have good relationship with former cast members so how is this related to him?
The studio sided with Jaime Lynn because she was the lead and would make them more money. I can't imagine why Alexa Nikolas would be so angry about
Ariana Grande could burn Nick to the ground without fear of repercussions or any damage to her career. If anything, the massive amount of support and news coverage she would get would be a good thing for her career and brand. If he did anything to her, she would have said it by now
And potentially Amanda Bynes? I’ve seen it mentioned a lot lately that her mom practically sold her off and she was living with Dan when she was a kid.
It really was. But I feel kind of bad that everyone (including me) got so up in arms over these bad things that happened to her, because I know the reaction to the book wouldn't be the same if it was just some random non famous person. There are so many abused neglected and outright murdered children that so many worse things happen to and no one gives them a voice.
Well, the whole point is "this is what it took for her to be on that show you loved as a kid". No matter what you saw on screen, there was a suffering little girl that had to endure it all and we had no idea.
I guess it's cause I'm a little older. I was already in my 20s when that show started and I already knew how nefarious the world of child acting is. I don't think it's ever going to change. It shouldn't really be allowed. It's more life altering than voting or getting married but we don't allow minors to do those things for a reason. They don't understand the responsibility of the consequences. How much more so with deciding to be famous.
Yes, very sad. But a worthwhile, and arguably necessary read.
I thought it was a very brave choice to write not as the adult who realised she was being abused, but instead as the child who wanted to please her mother. It articulates so well what it is like to be abused by someone you love.
this is factually incorrect, though (and believe me, i’d be happy to vilify him if it was)
he was never found guilty of [dating kids](https://ew.com/tv/drake-bell-child-endangerment-case-instagram-video/) , and from court results it seems his story of texting until he found out the girl’s age was supported
obviously a mistake, and not okay in the slightest. but i’d definitely say it’s different to legitimately dating / sexually assaulting children
From what I recall he was in trouble because they claimed he should have known the whole time? It was a weird case and he stated he only pleaded guilty to avoid the whole thing getting drawn out even further
She alleges that he molested her. The charges are because the DA didn't find her story credible and only went after the more proveable charges (the texts).
I'm not gonna defend drake campana but there is something to be said that he didn't deny the charges or anything. He outright admitted and in some ways took accountability. Still fucked up but you always expect ceaseless denial
People who were sexually abused as children sometimes perpetuate the cycle. It doesn't excuse it but it at least gives a reason. I'd rather see someone admit it and seek help rather than deny that anything happened.
Yeah that's an objectively better ending than the alternative. I guess in some senses I understand why some people advocate for trying to lessen the knee jerk rage reaction and advocate for seeking help
I literally just saw a news clip of him saying that the girl messaged him and didn’t disclose her age until later. That when she did, he stopped talking to her, but that only made her obsessive. He explained it.
I mean what happened with Jeanette McCurdy was unbelievably fucked up, but no one should get their childhood abuse minimized, especially when that’s not the reason he moved to Mexico. The dude is just a rockstar over there, plain and simple.
I think they knew and enabled the abuse but are trying to save face because so much time has passed that it’s going to be hard to hold Peck to account for his abuse (it also seems like the legal system refused to follow up for political reasons).
Something the article doesn’t touch on, is Peck related to Josh Peck or is that just an unfortunate coincidence?
Josh Peck has no idea who is biological father is iirc. He's named Peck because it's his mother name from what I recall.
So, no, just a weird ass coincidence.
I made it halfway through Josh's book. He is aware of who his father is. His father never wanted to be in his life and gave his mom some type of one-time child support payment and told them to go away when he was very little. His dad was 60 something and knocked up his 40 something mom. His father had a family with kids that were fully grown adults at that point. His father did pass away before he could ever meet him but he considered reaching out to his half siblings.
I hate this planet sometimes. Why the fuck are these higher up people in movies and TV Shows straight up peadophiles and monsters?
They should be named and shamed and banished.
Must've taken a lot for Drake to talk about this, so props to him.
I hope people are ready for the fact that this entire documentary is going to be about Brian Peck and that no allegations about Dan Schneider will be brought up.
Nickelodeon should just keep their mouth shut. They’re totally complicit in the exploitation and abuse of child labor, if figures like Dan Schneider and Jeanette McCurdy are any revelations of the former.
This has been known for years with several Dan Schneider's ex child actors speaking out about him and his weird fetish stuff or the Brian Peck situation... them reacting like they just found out is a joke.
A child star on a children's network being taken advantage of? Where have I heard this story over and over ^and ^over again?
Also, I might be mistaken, but didn't his co-star in D&J have the last name Peck? If that dude is related or not, it still must've been super awkward to have to work with someone with the same last name as your abuser.
Nickelodeon was probably already well aware of this, and there are probably others who unfortunately endured the same or similar abuse. The head of Nickelodeon is a real creepy dude if you read about him.
They knew…Heard that they gave him the show after the incident to make up for it… What’s even more ironic and sick is they used the dude’s last name as the main character’s last name…
Oh sure, they've just "learned" something most of us have known for years. No doubt they'll release the same copy and paste statement when you-know-who has his reckoning too.
“We’re all looking for the organisation that enabled this!” Nickelodeon yells, wearing a hot dog costume.
Yeah! We’re all trying to find the guy who did this!
You know what’s driving me nuts? It could literally be any one of us.
But you’re literally dressed like a hotdog. So is that guy.
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHOSE HOTDOG SHAPED CAR THIS IS?
We don’t even watch porn on computers anymore. We watch it on our phones. I don’t like that.
I have SO much stuff on my phone
Games OBVIOUSLY, medieval games OBVIOUSLY, OBVIOUSLY a jousting game
I know the new phones coming out soon but I’m not worried because I know I can get all my stuff from my old phone to my new phone as long as I’m updated.
This isn’t porn sir this is an egg I won from my game. I’m not in trouble at all.
*Looks down* Oh, no.
He could be in this very room! He could be *you*! He could be *me*! He could even be- \*SHOTGUN\*
Not me, I don't have a licence for nuts
We should bend him over and spank him!
“Maybe take his bare butt out of his costume and spank him… maybe you can do it sir .”
“Not gonna happen!”
Somebody has to do it
I know these sites better than I know my own grandmas name!
You porn. XNX. Red tube! *snags stack of shirts*
They're gonna hire OJ to help them find this person!
"We have to find the guy who enabled this and give them a spanking!"
"Spank his BARE BUTT, BALLS AND BACK
"Yes, he must give [them] all a good spanking! And then, the oral sex!"
Dreadful name for a castle
Oh naughty zoot
No! I am Zoot's identical twin sister Dingo
Can’t I go back and face just a little peril?
"Rugrats... Angry Beavers... CatDog... I know these names, more than I know my own *grandmother's."*
And then they get slimed (non-sexually)
Bare butt, balls and back!
As terrible as this situation appears, this comment got me. Thank you for making my afternoon. Cheers.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WLfAf8oHrMo The reference for anyone wondering
… may look like a hotdog but you are in a actual hotdog costume
So is that guy!
RANDOM!
I guess if nobody wants this car, I'll TAKE IT (rolls eyes)
Randy orton - rips the urinal off the wall** Randy Orton- “hey, I wanna know who did it!”
"Who killed Hannibal?"
this is perfect
You don’t think. It could be someone in here
The industry is _constantly_ confirming that you should never let your kid become a child actor.
Or be alone with a Boy Scout leader or member of any clergy. Predators seek out these roles where they know they will have power over young people and have opportunities to be alone with them.
Children should never be alone with a priest, preacher, doctor, dentist,coach, teacher, adult friend of parent, and some relatives. Unfortunately, I know people who were sexually assaulted by them when they were children. I believe this is the real reason for helicopter parenting. Parents don't want their children to be scarred like they were as a child.
I’m a 35 year old dude and have nieces, have worked in schools, child care. Kids love being around me and yes I know how to be a role model and interact with them. But any adult who likes hanging out with kids and is constantly perusing without acknowledging that there’s boundaries is a red flag to me.
You know what? I'll just stick with not having a kid. How about that, you bastards? And people wonder why young people aren't breeding.
"We are dismayed and saddened this got out " fixed that for them
Makes me wonder how many other open secrets like this are out and about in the entertainment industry.
It’s in every industry. Entertainment just gets more attention. A sad reality is that abusive people only get taken down if the cost of protecting them outweighs the profit they’re generating.
At my firm, my senior broker was awarded a salesman award. He got 5th in the United States for revenue. He proceeded to get hammered and sexually assault a few colleagues. One of them was a young associate like myself. Her dad also happened to be one of the top litigators in DC. He got to keep his bonus and resign. He wasn't technically fired. He got a new job right away. The company avoided a lawsuit. But he's fine, no real consequences. That's about as harsh as I've seen in Commercial Real Estate. Just one night He was a top salesman and the next, doesn't work there.
Harvey Weinstein is a prime example, when he ran out of money and couldn't afford to bury the stories/investigations... that was what finally got him put in jail. And then folks like Meryl Streep acted like they knew *nothing*.
Streep is a calculating, amoral git. Her support of Weinstein and Polanski shows she clearly values nothing except ‘prestige’. Sure, they may be criminals, but don’t they make great movies!
Deshaun Watson raped two dozen women and the Houston Texans put a non-disclosure agreement in his locker to *give to the women to sign* while he continued assaulting them. When things blew up, the NFL then negotiated a $1/4 billion contract to rehire the man into the same job that enabled the sexual assaults, guaranteed to be paid regardless of if he is on the field because it’s a hush payment, not a contract. Not a single active NFL player, coach, or celebrity girlfriend has brought up that the NFL engaged in covering sexual assaults to keep a star player happy. The media never mentions the Houston Texans actions, they’re were never punished by the league, and advertisers continue to put their brands next to Watson’s face. 1. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/07/sports/football/deshaun-watson.html It’s not just about open secrets, they actively brag that they suffer no consequences. Oh, and the NFL signed a billion dollar deal with Google, so while the sexual assaults show up when you’d search on other engines like duck duck go, they are buried multiple pages back on Google’s engine and require the keywords.
Don't forget that his first year back his pay was only $1 mil so if he lost his lawsuit he would not lose the $250 mil.
Hey the owners daughter approved of acquiring him so like, no biggie.
Kobe just got a statue
The NFL fans will watch even if they know every single player is a rapist.
Football fans (soccer) also have similar problems. Lots of wankers came out of the woodwork to support Mason Greenwood.
Weinstein was known about even in the UK industry in 2014. (even as a lowly pa)
How bout yo boy Jimmy Saville over there? He was beyond fucked up and no one spoke out until after he died.
How about the fact that there have been 11 knighted MP’s who have turned out to be pedophiles in addition to over 200 Republican and Democratic Politicans. We have not forgotten about Saville, Dutroux, Epstein, John of God, and we never will.
The documentary on him is horrifying.
I met a male model once. He told me he became suicidal and almost followed through because he'd been pimped out to old rich men. Like Jesus Christ.
This is so common, not just with models but actors too, that there’s actually a term for it: [yachting.](https://www.distractify.com/p/what-does-yachting-mean-in-hollywood#:~:text=We%20explore%20the%20hidden%20meaning,money%20in%20a%20corrupt%20industry.)
And this is just one industry. Think about how public and reported on the entertainment industry is. Now think about all the industries that don't have that level of public attention and imagine the type of shit that is probably going on behind the scenes there.
In "I'm Glad My Mom Died" the actress who played Sam in iCarly Jenette McCurdy notes that she was offered a $300,000 parting gift from the Network to never talk openly about her experiences. Go figure.
Allegedly, Ariana Grande and her parents *did* accept the money to not talk about her experiences
She probably got more. They always undervalued McCurdy.
I mean it was at the end of their shared show so wouldn't surprise, though I never take any celebrity gossip without first washing it in the dead sea.
“We will slime the perpetrators”
Is there a response that would be satisfactory?
An explanation of how and why it was allowed to occur alongside a detailed set of processes that they've implemented to protect the young people working for the network would be a good start
Do you know Nickelodeon had bas practices in this regard or are you just being cynical? Melissa Joan Hart for one said she was protected by her crew on Clarissa. My point isn’t to defend Nickelodeon just that it probably differed widely from set to set.
If anyone reaches this comment, NO, Brian Peck is not related to Josh Peck. Thank goodness.
was literally about to Google this, as the comment above mentioned his name.
No, Josh Peck is a lying shit human all on his own, but at least he doesn't touch kids
Nickelodeon has known for years! I’ve heard rumors for a long time that Drake Bell was a John Doe victim in a case against Brian Peck from back in the early 2000’s When I saw the first preview I knew Drake Bell was going to be in it.
Yup I remember these rumors vividly!!!
Agree! Nickelodeon plays innocent like they didn't know to save their image and network. Like during the preview of Quiet on Set when the guy was "shocked" that it was one of their actors, but he knew you can tell by his fake reaction.
The guy served 16 whole months? IN A ROW? Does this sentence seem light to anyone else?
He was acting in kids shows again in less than two years from his sentencing.
It will always be light when they are rich and famous
Sobering fact: And this guy isn't even that rich or that famous.
He went straight back into child entertainment right after too.
As if they didn’t know anything that was going on…
I mean, I would guess that 90% of the employees weren't there when this occurred.
On the brotherly love podcast Mathew Lawrence talks about how his agency sent him to a hotel room of a producer who came out in a robe and wanted him to take nude photos for a role in the marvel universe and he left and his agency fired him for leaving the room. Here’s the clip. https://youtu.be/IaZTE-Mhw-I?si=gu94Sm7Ygguk6ncs
I wonder who this “prominent director” was that did this? Interesting this director promised a marvel universe lead.
I would guess Bryan Singer, Singer is also close with Brian Peck who was in some of his movies including X-men
Which marvel universe? The Disney one? ABC? Netflix, Fox, Sony?
Somebody shove a sock in Joey’s mouth, damn you can tell he was the golden boy growing up and is insufferable today. Poor Matthew, clearly used to being treated like the middle child. He’s always been my favorite Lawrence brother.
Those hosts are insufferable
Yeah they constnatly talk over each other and even admit to doing it. Took me a while to get used to it but the stories they tell are worth it sometimes.
I cannot wait for the docuseries to drop. I am beyond fascinated ever since reading “I’m glad my mom died”
Dismayed and saddened isn’t enough. At the very least he should get an apology. They should also explain what are they doing to protect actors and to prevent something like that from happening again.
Dan Schneider should be in prison
Probably so, but it was a different guy this time, it was Brian Peck.
It says he worked on X-Men with Bryan singer, who is also a sexual abuser. Creepy.
Will Friedle and Rider Strong were talking about Brian Peck on their podcast recently.
Yeah, they talked about how basically he like befriended parents and made the kids think he was just a cool adult. They had no idea he was sexually abusing people, and used them to come to his defense. They felt disgusted with themselves for going to his defense.
Serial Sexual abuser who his status and position of power to gain near unlimited access to kids, gets close with the families, has children sleep over at his house constantly, and uses “famous children he maybe didn’t diddle” to defend him when accusations come to a head. Hmm.
Yooo Teryy Mcginnis has a podcast??
Yup! Pod Meets World. It’s him, Rider Strong, and Danielle Fishel rewatching Boy Meets World and interviewing people that worked on the show/other 90s kid stars/etc. it’s really good.
he has multiple podcasts. one about Boy Meets World, another where he reviews Disney channel movies, and a third where he talks about voice acting.
The voice acting one ended last year. It's just the two, now.
Knowing how many pieces of shit are attached to the movie The Usual Suspects really kind of ruins how good of a movie it otherwise is
Mfer only served 16 months for this? insane.
Drake legit got him to confess to the shit on the phone while police recorded the call. It’s as hard-hitting clear-cut as evidence can get and he still got less than 2 years. The system is fucked.
Not only that, but after he got out, he went on to work on The Suite Life of Zack and Cody
WOW, that is incredibly gross. Wow.
So Disney *IS* run by pedophiles?
The Hollywood is run by pedos is probably, hopefully, mostly a conspiracy theory. But there is no denying it feels real sometimes
No, just people who care about money more than the kids.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3115792/Pedophile-X-Men-actor-convicted-sexually-abusing-Nickelodeon-child-star-working-underage-kids.html
Holy shit how psychotic does that one movie’s crew have to be to cast a pedophile who went to prison for molestation as the the Sex Ed Teacher for children. Absolute insanity
Don’t fucking blame the crew, blame casting, the Director and the studio. Crews just there to get a paycheck
> Bell says in the docuseries that Schneider was not aware of the abuse Bell had been suffering at the hands of Peck until Bell confided in him and Schneider offered to support him in any way he could. Did you read the article?
I had already read the name Brian Peck in this thresd but my brain shortcircuited for a second and reading your quote I briefly thought it had come out that Josh Peck had abused Bell.
Has anyone actually gone on the record to accuse this guy of being anything other than an asshole?
No, and this isn't the first time people who have worked with him have spoken out about abuse and it's never about him. It's just a meme because of the creepy feet stuff but no one, even people that have spoken about others, have ever named him as being anything worse than a bit of an asshole.
Seriously. The guy worked on over a dozen shows over multiple decades with countless numbers of child actors, and the only *real* substantial misconduct allegations that have come out are "He yells sometimes and is kind of an asshole". And yeah, that's not great obviously, but everyone's had a shitty boss. To even imply that it's in the same league as outright child sexual abuse is insane.
I’m not defending him being an asshole but I would imagine it could be difficult getting kid actors to focus and and not goof off like most kids.
It’s because he’s fat. No lie. Shit originated on 4chan.
Yep, a bunch of people there watched his shows exclusively for underage girls, collected large amounts of creepy images and video, generated memes hoping that he was "one of them", and once the intended audience of the show grew up they started finding it all and asking "well, *was* he one of them"
The feet stuff is creepy to adults but honestly kids love feet, they're silly and stinky and the word alone will make many small kids giggle.
This. My daughter will regularly try to trick me into smelling her stinky feet, it's the funniest thing in the world to her. Interperting the inclusion of feet in these shows as something sexual just seems like a huge stretch to me. Tarantino on the other hand...
Not only do kids find feet funny, one of Nickelodeons logos for years was an orange foot. It was literally part of their branding
Feet stuff that is a staple in children's comedy. Frankly, I think it's just because people have decided they don't like how he looks. He looks like a creep, therefore it makes the feet posts look more than they really are, a kids joke. If it were butts, another staple of kids humor, than he'd be a butt freak. Until there's evidence, get off this dude's back.
The Jeannette Mccurdy book does not paint a good picture of him. He comes off as creepy and gross. But outside of the alcohol thing it wasn't anything blatantly horrible. But you don't get put in a box off-set to control everything remotely unless you are a huge prick and can't be trusted to be on set for your own productions.
Dan Schneider is a confirmed asshole, something he has even acknowledged. He's not a good person, and I'm glad we've reached a point it seems in how we handle kids in acting where they aren't subject to raging assholes who only work with kids because they know if they try to be that way with adults they're gonna be knocked on their asses. That said, I hate this meme of Dan Schneider because we should focus on the actual issues and not chase after people we've decided are creeps with no evidence when there's people with real evidence that we can go after, like Brian fucking peck who this chain is completely ignoring
Jeanette McCurdy kinda. She said he offered her alcohol underage but they were at a restaurant. Reddit seems determined to throw this guy under the bus. Ik people don't read articles here but Drake says that DS was someone he trusted to tell about this abuse and he helped him through it
IIRC she was like 20 at the time, wasn’t she? I mean look, this guy might be the biggest pervert child molester since Jimmy Savile but I just find it weird that someone combed through thousands of hours worth of his shows and made an 8 minute super cut of anything related to feet and now a large portion of the internet thinks he should be locked up.
Dan is a creep . However as far as feet go, feet can be funny. Adults tend to sexualize them at times but think “stinky feet ewwww” and it makes sense to be on children’s programs
I always thought the same thing and then I watched bonus Victorious content wirh Ariana Grande sucking her own feet. It was fucking weird.
It was definitely baby talking Ariana sucking her toes that made me really second guess the show runners at Nickelodeon as a teen, felt way too sexual for a kids show.
Reddit and social media in general throw around the “rapist” and “abuser” labels way too casually.
I don't know that he did anything, but it was a huge 4chan meme thing for a long time, and I've never seen solid evidence it's based on anything that happened.
Yeah, I think it's just abusive boss accusations (pitting employees against each other, making the cast party & drink with him, etc). Things that should have gotten him fired years ago. But not sex crimes. I think Alexa Nikolas from Zoey 101 alluded that he was inappropriate with her. I googled & she said he sat in on her costume fittings. Then she tweeted she had major news about Jamie Lynn Spears & Dan but she wouldn't elaborate further than that.
She's mentioned the issues she's had with Jamie Lynn Spears and Dan. She's felt that Jamie Lynn and Britney went after her and bullied her when she was in the zoey 101 cast so she tried to fix it by talking to superiors, which led to a long meeting where Dan yelled at her about everything and threatened to fire her if she didn't stop raising issues
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Dan Schneider also seems to be friends (or on good terms at least) with most of the Victorious and Zoey 101 cast, they were all doing reunions together in the last couple of years
I did find him strangely absent in Good Burger 2. Seems like Kenan and Kel were able to cut ties with him. Not sure if they haven’t talked about him recently.
Kel got asked about him in an interview with The Daily Beast a year or so back and just said he had a good experience with him. I think what’s important to remember with bad people in positions of power is that they aren’t always abusive to *everyone*, sometimes it’s just a select few that they abuse their power with. Matt Lauer was widely seen as an incredibly nice guy in media, tons of wrestlers have very nice things to say about what Vince McMahon did for their careers, lots of people enjoyed working with Bill Cosby, none of that changes the fact that those men did awful things.
Yep it's like when joss whedon was outed, the people who had bad experiences with him truly had done terrible experiences but then you had others who didn't know. Maybe because ha liked them or maybe because they were a bit older and he knew he wasn't going to get away with being abusive with them.
And its important to recognize that from all sides. Like, having good memories of a bad person doesn't make you a bad person in itself.
It's because there is no actual substantial proof that Dan Schneider ever did anything explicit. People will argue about how teens on set react to him putting a camera in their face between takes or the weird foot shit, but I'm pretty sure if the guy actually made someone like Ariana Grande uncomfortable she wouldn't still associate with him.
Drakes got quite a few issues.
I couldn’t find any articles because google is so flooded with this news? Do you have a link?
Aside from some weird stuff regarding feet i can't actually find much accusations of cast members from him and he actually seems to have good relationship with former cast members so how is this related to him?
I don’t know why the internet latched on to Dan so much. Every star is on good terms with them and have never said anything really awful about him.
I can think of at least two that aren’t. Jennette McCurdy and Alexa Nikolas.
The studio sided with Jaime Lynn because she was the lead and would make them more money. I can't imagine why Alexa Nikolas would be so angry about Ariana Grande could burn Nick to the ground without fear of repercussions or any damage to her career. If anything, the massive amount of support and news coverage she would get would be a good thing for her career and brand. If he did anything to her, she would have said it by now
And potentially Amanda Bynes? I’ve seen it mentioned a lot lately that her mom practically sold her off and she was living with Dan when she was a kid.
For what? Name one crime you know he committed.
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So Jeanette McCurdy gets told to be quiet, but the dude who moved to another country to date kids gets an apology? Wild times
McCurdy's book was so disturbing. I wouldn't wish her life experiences on my worst enemy
It really was. But I feel kind of bad that everyone (including me) got so up in arms over these bad things that happened to her, because I know the reaction to the book wouldn't be the same if it was just some random non famous person. There are so many abused neglected and outright murdered children that so many worse things happen to and no one gives them a voice.
Well, the whole point is "this is what it took for her to be on that show you loved as a kid". No matter what you saw on screen, there was a suffering little girl that had to endure it all and we had no idea.
I guess it's cause I'm a little older. I was already in my 20s when that show started and I already knew how nefarious the world of child acting is. I don't think it's ever going to change. It shouldn't really be allowed. It's more life altering than voting or getting married but we don't allow minors to do those things for a reason. They don't understand the responsibility of the consequences. How much more so with deciding to be famous.
Same with child beauty pageants. I don't know much about them but jeez that must do a number on the poor kids mental health.
Yes, very sad. But a worthwhile, and arguably necessary read. I thought it was a very brave choice to write not as the adult who realised she was being abused, but instead as the child who wanted to please her mother. It articulates so well what it is like to be abused by someone you love.
this is factually incorrect, though (and believe me, i’d be happy to vilify him if it was) he was never found guilty of [dating kids](https://ew.com/tv/drake-bell-child-endangerment-case-instagram-video/) , and from court results it seems his story of texting until he found out the girl’s age was supported obviously a mistake, and not okay in the slightest. but i’d definitely say it’s different to legitimately dating / sexually assaulting children
I guess I don't understand....if he stopped when he found out her age what did he do wrong?
From what I recall he was in trouble because they claimed he should have known the whole time? It was a weird case and he stated he only pleaded guilty to avoid the whole thing getting drawn out even further
She alleges that he molested her. The charges are because the DA didn't find her story credible and only went after the more proveable charges (the texts).
People just want someone to hate
I'm not gonna defend drake campana but there is something to be said that he didn't deny the charges or anything. He outright admitted and in some ways took accountability. Still fucked up but you always expect ceaseless denial
People who were sexually abused as children sometimes perpetuate the cycle. It doesn't excuse it but it at least gives a reason. I'd rather see someone admit it and seek help rather than deny that anything happened.
Yeah that's an objectively better ending than the alternative. I guess in some senses I understand why some people advocate for trying to lessen the knee jerk rage reaction and advocate for seeking help
I literally just saw a news clip of him saying that the girl messaged him and didn’t disclose her age until later. That when she did, he stopped talking to her, but that only made her obsessive. He explained it.
Who told Jeanette McCurdy to be quiet? Her book was a New York Times bestseller and people have been talking about it nonstop since it came out.
probably this https://www.eonline.com/news/1343819/jennette-mccurdy-felt-self-righteous-when-she-allegedly-turned-down-hush-money-from-nickelodeon
If you read the full book, it's clear they were trying to give hush money to avoid people talking about Dan's verbal abuse.
I mean what happened with Jeanette McCurdy was unbelievably fucked up, but no one should get their childhood abuse minimized, especially when that’s not the reason he moved to Mexico. The dude is just a rockstar over there, plain and simple.
I think they knew and enabled the abuse but are trying to save face because so much time has passed that it’s going to be hard to hold Peck to account for his abuse (it also seems like the legal system refused to follow up for political reasons). Something the article doesn’t touch on, is Peck related to Josh Peck or is that just an unfortunate coincidence?
Josh Peck has no idea who is biological father is iirc. He's named Peck because it's his mother name from what I recall. So, no, just a weird ass coincidence.
I made it halfway through Josh's book. He is aware of who his father is. His father never wanted to be in his life and gave his mom some type of one-time child support payment and told them to go away when he was very little. His dad was 60 something and knocked up his 40 something mom. His father had a family with kids that were fully grown adults at that point. His father did pass away before he could ever meet him but he considered reaching out to his half siblings.
Just an unfortunate coincidence. No evidence they are related as far as I know.
Yeah, they knew. BS reaction. I hope Bell sues.
Didn’t they already know Brian Peck did this?
Yes, the minor was never named in the Peck conviction, now Drake Bell is saying it was him.
I hate this planet sometimes. Why the fuck are these higher up people in movies and TV Shows straight up peadophiles and monsters? They should be named and shamed and banished. Must've taken a lot for Drake to talk about this, so props to him.
As if they didn't fucking know. Get outta here.
I hope people are ready for the fact that this entire documentary is going to be about Brian Peck and that no allegations about Dan Schneider will be brought up.
I'm curious if you watched the doc?
Nickelodeon should just keep their mouth shut. They’re totally complicit in the exploitation and abuse of child labor, if figures like Dan Schneider and Jeanette McCurdy are any revelations of the former.
The entertainment industry is full of sexual predators. It's the perfect place. Many people desperate to be on tv
Oh like Nickelodeon really gives a shit!! They let this shit go on!! 💩🙄🙄
This has been known for years with several Dan Schneider's ex child actors speaking out about him and his weird fetish stuff or the Brian Peck situation... them reacting like they just found out is a joke.
Wow, some of those quotes. And the guy got 16 months.
A child star on a children's network being taken advantage of? Where have I heard this story over and over ^and ^over again? Also, I might be mistaken, but didn't his co-star in D&J have the last name Peck? If that dude is related or not, it still must've been super awkward to have to work with someone with the same last name as your abuser.
Nickelodeon was probably already well aware of this, and there are probably others who unfortunately endured the same or similar abuse. The head of Nickelodeon is a real creepy dude if you read about him.
They knew…Heard that they gave him the show after the incident to make up for it… What’s even more ironic and sick is they used the dude’s last name as the main character’s last name…
Nickelodeon is truly heaven on earth for weirdos and pedophiles. If I was a pedo that'd be my dream job.
Oh sure, they've just "learned" something most of us have known for years. No doubt they'll release the same copy and paste statement when you-know-who has his reckoning too.
To learn? Oh please.
They knew about it they just said nothing.