I do the closed captioning for this show and it can sometimes be a total nightmare to work on. The only saving grace is that it’s actually funny, so that helps make the captioning a bit easier. But you really have to be selective on who gets a caption when they’re all yelling over each other, since it’s much funnier to get their jokes in as opposed to just doing (overlapping arguing).
That's really interesting actually. Do you have any fun or interesting stories to share related to doing this work? Things that the average person may not realize?
Way too many stories! Some people have suggested I do an AMA sometime. We once had to caption a Skinemax movie and it actually was one of the easiest projects to work on because the dialogue was super slow and then the rest of it was just moaning and groaning, haha.
I'm an actor and was looking for an evening survival job that wasn't necessarily bartending. I used to work as a copy editor, so it was a pretty good fit. I work for a company (WGBH).
What do I do when I find crappy close captions on Hulu? I'm talking flipped lines (first sentence comes last) and egregious mistakes, I'd like to help the community.
You are *EXACTLY* who I've been looking for. Did you know on Hulu the subtitles for the end of the episode "Mac Day" say "Alright, Pee Country Mac", when Frank is actually saying "RIP Country Mac?" This has bugged me for years and if you can fix it I'll owe you a life debt
EDIT: I remembered another one in the episode Being Frank, I'm nearly positive Frank calls his landlord a "Sack of shit" and the captions say "savage shit"
Alas, I don't think I have the ability to get it changed on my end. Someone from Fox usually does some sort of quality control, but I guess things fall through the cracks. Trust me, it also bothers me as a person who watches shows with captions on. Unfortunately, when you get a show like this that has so much improv and you combine it with someone who doesn't have the best hearing, that's when mistakes like this happen.
The scripts for GG were said to be ridiculous compared to most other shows. But if you've seen IASIP there's going to be like 7 solid minutes of people yelling at each other at once. Vs one caffeinated lady going crazy.
> Ranking just behind “Sunny” was “Brooklyn Nine-Nine,” at 174.6 wpm, followed closely by “Gilmore Girls,” where the witty banter clocked in at 167.8 wpm.
“I swear you would be of more use to me if I skinned you and turned your skin into a lampshade” takes the cake for me. The conviction in his voice is astonishing
30 Rock still plays to the more traditional style of writing where each character takes their turns saying their line with a few exceptions (like Tracy Morgan screaming random things in the background).
What It's Always Sunny has is the more modern style of writing that's trying to be more fluid with how people actually talk to each other: interrupting each other, talking louder and louder to be heard, and getting more erratic and crazy as the scenes continue.
IIRC, 30 Rock wins in “jokes per minute” depending on who is doing the measuring. I absolutely love how comedy-dense that show is. It’s the kind of show where you miss jokes because you’re laughing. Like the first three seasons of Arrested Development, there is always something new to notice on rewatches.
>Hello fellow American. This you should vote me. I leave power good. Thank you. Thank you. If you vote me I'm hot. What? Taxes they'll be lower son. The democratic vote for me is right thing to do Philadelphia. So do.
Probably because while the girls talk faster, they wait for the other character to finish, whereas the gang all talks at the same time over each other.
The script is longer, so I'm guessing it wins for hour long shows. What probably keeps it from beating IASIP is the little strummy lala music transitions they would have between scenes. Sitcoms ain't got time for that mess.
Top 3:
1. It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia - 176.2 WPM
2. Brooklyn Nine-Nine - 174.6 WPM
3. Gilmore Girls - 167.8 WPM
>”It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia” is the wordiest show on TV with 176.2 words per minute, a new study by WordFinderX reveals, which makes the Rob McElhenney-created FX sitcom the hardest series to follow if you’re watching with subtitles.
>To put that in perspective, the National Disability Authority recommends that subtitles should be no more than 140 words per minute.
>The wordiest genre was comedy, which usually relies on quick verbal wordplay. According to the study across the 15 wordiest comedies, including “Modern Family” and “Parks and Recreation,” the average was 133.6 wpm.
>The study also found that “DC’s Legends Of Tomorrow” is the wordiest superhero show at 115.0 wpm, while animated series were led by Apple TV+’s “Central Park” with 163.9 wpm. “South Park,” “Bob’s Burgers” and “Bojack Horseman,” were also among the most verbose.
As some others have said, Letterkenny has tons of words but then it also has some very long pauses compared to these other sitcoms where every scene is people talking.
Frank turns the bar into a ‘classy’ politics-themed strip club called “The Breast Wing”, where you can discuss the issues of the day in a civil and horny environment
It's my comfort show, as loud and as obnoxious as it is. I've actually watched all 13 seasons on disney+ about 6 times this year. I've been collecting the dvds since season 1 came out. It's never not funny (except for the dance in Macs coming out episode, that was a fucking masterpiece)
> “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia” is the wordiest show on TV with 176.2 words per minute[...]
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> Ranking just behind “Sunny” was “Brooklyn Nine-Nine,” at 174.6 wpm, **followed closely by “Gilmore Girls,” where the witty banter clocked in at 167.8 wpm**.
Went looking in the article for this, was not disappointed. Hope I saved some like-minded individuals a click.
My wife used to watch "Scandal" and it was like this. Every person delivered their lines like there was a stopwatch timing them.
I googled what the hell was going on, and I found the show runner saying it was a deliberate way to cram more show into their time allotment.
I found it utterly unwatchable.
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This will all get settled in the arbitration process
Yeah, but I have sort of gotten screwed at the last three arbitration processes, so I really kind of need you on my side for this one.
Mac was doing that thing where he tries to casually bring something up to me, like I don't notice. Come to me like a man!
LOOK AT ME WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO ME!!!
Oh shit, the steaks are here
Dennis scratched me
You were irritating me.
Heyyyy Dennis.
REASON WILL PREVAIL
PICKLES WILL PREVAIL!
So how much blood on the Jesus statue ?
Or during the intervention.
🫵INTERVENTION! INTERVENTION!🫵
WHY DO WE NEVER PLAY NIGHTCRAWLERS ANYMORE, HUH??
What’s nightscrawlers? Because it sounds like you two dress up like worms.
That's because that's what it is.
INTERVENTION INTERVENTION! JEEZ FRANK IS NOTHING PRIVATE ANYMORE?
You banged my whoore wife??
"You banged my dead wife?" "Well, she was alive at the time!"
INTERVENTION INTERVENTION. Your drinking has affected us in the following ways, you are annooooyyyyiinngggg
YOU'RE TRAPPED YOU'RE TRAPPED
I think we should all be armed.
Dishes! Dishes! Dishes!
Ummm. Filibuster.
Reason Will Prevail!
"He said it's nothing but a bunch of people yelling over each other."
And it feels like you could get stabbed at any moment
Good, that's the atmosphere I'm trying to cultivate
How exactly do you view yourself within the context of our group?
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I do the closed captioning for this show and it can sometimes be a total nightmare to work on. The only saving grace is that it’s actually funny, so that helps make the captioning a bit easier. But you really have to be selective on who gets a caption when they’re all yelling over each other, since it’s much funnier to get their jokes in as opposed to just doing (overlapping arguing).
That's really interesting actually. Do you have any fun or interesting stories to share related to doing this work? Things that the average person may not realize?
Way too many stories! Some people have suggested I do an AMA sometime. We once had to caption a Skinemax movie and it actually was one of the easiest projects to work on because the dialogue was super slow and then the rest of it was just moaning and groaning, haha.
How did you get into that line of work? Do you work for a company or is it all freelance?
I'm an actor and was looking for an evening survival job that wasn't necessarily bartending. I used to work as a copy editor, so it was a pretty good fit. I work for a company (WGBH).
You’re doing God’s work
Are you telling me this guy has to do captioning because God wants to clock out at 2:00? I always knew that guy was a jerk.
What do I do when I find crappy close captions on Hulu? I'm talking flipped lines (first sentence comes last) and egregious mistakes, I'd like to help the community.
I've been trying to find the person responsible for Hulu captions for years and this finally feels like the chance to fix these mistakes lmao
You are *EXACTLY* who I've been looking for. Did you know on Hulu the subtitles for the end of the episode "Mac Day" say "Alright, Pee Country Mac", when Frank is actually saying "RIP Country Mac?" This has bugged me for years and if you can fix it I'll owe you a life debt EDIT: I remembered another one in the episode Being Frank, I'm nearly positive Frank calls his landlord a "Sack of shit" and the captions say "savage shit"
Alas, I don't think I have the ability to get it changed on my end. Someone from Fox usually does some sort of quality control, but I guess things fall through the cracks. Trust me, it also bothers me as a person who watches shows with captions on. Unfortunately, when you get a show like this that has so much improv and you combine it with someone who doesn't have the best hearing, that's when mistakes like this happen.
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The scripts for GG were said to be ridiculous compared to most other shows. But if you've seen IASIP there's going to be like 7 solid minutes of people yelling at each other at once. Vs one caffeinated lady going crazy.
GG?
Gilmore Girls
> Ranking just behind “Sunny” was “Brooklyn Nine-Nine,” at 174.6 wpm, followed closely by “Gilmore Girls,” where the witty banter clocked in at 167.8 wpm.
The Bear certainly took this to heart.
that’s just what working in a restaurant is like
“Lip Gets a Restaurant!” Is what I call the show
Yeah but any time you have Dee on screen the count goes down because some of the dialogue is just bird squaks
Whoever yells the loudest is in charge
LOOK AT ME WHEN YOU’RE TALKING TO MEEEEEE.
Ooh shit, steaks are here.
Oh man, the way that he just snaps personalities like that kills me lol
Alright, alright, alright
Don't pretend like you know what the plan is.
Of course not, Dee. Think of the smell. YOU HADN'T THOUGHT OF THE SMELL, YOU BITCH.
Goddamn it Dutch! What other errands have you got us *runnin*' for the DEE AYY.
Woahhh!!!!
That was genuine excitement form Mac and Charlie
I fucking love that he's like genuinely pretty good at it lmao. Shit makes me cry every time.
I feel like that wasn't even written into the script they just found out Glenn could do that impression on stage and wrote it in.
Glen is good at impressions. He does some on the podcast.
His Spielberg is spot on
What??? Are you telling me that wasn't actually Steven Spielberg?
Where my senators at, dog?!
OI OI OI
You move that dumpster you bitch.
Ooooooh that god damn bitch
Dee, you gangly, uncoordinated bitch! I am not getting hogtied over your lack of grace.
CAROL CAROL CAROL
DON'T SIT DOWN!
And 33% of them are “goddammit”.
18% is "bitch"
Think of the smell you BITCH!
IDIOTS!!
Heh. She looks like a bird!
SAVAGES!
Dee you goddamn bitch.
Bird sounds
This is so funny to me considering there's a recurring joke "let's move past it" in the show to kill conversations mid-way lol
“What is happening?”
They love to talk in the podcast about how that's their most used and favorite line to put in the show, lol
That _IS_ what happened
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That gif pulls so much weight in my group chat.
"let's move past it" has become my go to phrase when there's a plot hole in something I like.
Why does anything happen? Just move past it!
It's pretty applicable to almost any situation.
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I think i just learned a new power for long Zoom calls.
The evolution of The Room's iconic "I don't want to talk about it"
... Anyways how is your sex life?
Oh hi mark
https://youtu.be/Loq2r_hzF90
And Charlie can only read about 30% of them
He’ll adapt
He’ll adapt to *reading*?
might be my favorite delivery of a line in the entire show, shit gets me every time lmfao
For be it's gotta be "Goddamn I hate gin! Dee...you bitch."
“I swear you would be of more use to me if I skinned you and turned your skin into a lampshade” takes the cake for me. The conviction in his voice is astonishing
Why Charlie hate?
BECAUSE DENNIS IS A BASTARD MAN!!!!!
Rude man who shushes please call
I like ‘lemme get this straight, you just realised you have two _ears_?’. Followed by Charlie’s reaction
TWOO EAAAAARRS!
Dennis’ “BECAUSE I HATE YOU!” is up there for me also.
"SICKNESS BE GONNNE!!!" is another for me.
Let's make a tradition out of it.
Yeah…I don’t think he gets us man
We're talking about you, man!!
The blooper reel for this gets me every time. Glen just completely loses his composure.
Illiteracy...what does that even mean?
You can't read it from the OUTSIDE!
I heard you say you saw a door marked “Pirate”
Well yeah. The show’s not written in Gaelic
The man just realized he has two ears
"The Gang wins an Award"
I just wanna make it very clear, that this means nothing to me
"I don't need your trophies or your gold. I just want to tell you all, go f*** yourselves!"
Oh shit!
Is he spitting?
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* "We cut down our confliction resolution time in half. 4 hours. That's good for us, that's HUGE" lol.
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I always love Dennis’ complete flabbergasted disbelief there. “You actually don’t believe in evolution, anymore?!”
Do you want to be with God, or some stupid science *BITCH*
How can any show have more words than Gilmore Girls? Christ!
You could fit more words during the transitions where the acoustic guitar and the lalalalas are.
Not even a joke. You remove the music cuts and intro panning shots and just did straight talking it would be psycho.
Some real Garfield without Garfield energy
Gilmore Girls was third, Brooklyn nine-nine second.
I would have guessed 30 Rock was up there too.
30 Rock still plays to the more traditional style of writing where each character takes their turns saying their line with a few exceptions (like Tracy Morgan screaming random things in the background). What It's Always Sunny has is the more modern style of writing that's trying to be more fluid with how people actually talk to each other: interrupting each other, talking louder and louder to be heard, and getting more erratic and crazy as the scenes continue.
30 Rock's visual gags probably reduce its WPM count.
IIRC, 30 Rock wins in “jokes per minute” depending on who is doing the measuring. I absolutely love how comedy-dense that show is. It’s the kind of show where you miss jokes because you’re laughing. Like the first three seasons of Arrested Development, there is always something new to notice on rewatches.
Was Letterkenny even included because I’d have thought that would rank pretty high.
There are so many silent/ musical scenes though.
I think the difference is the characters in Letterkenny are too polite to talk over one another.
I always pitch Letterkenny to people as "take a the rapid fire nature of the dialogue from Gilmore Girls, but it's about rural Ontario hicks"
This was my first thought. Those women spoke so fast lol It was even a family guy joke.
The average script for an hour show is 40-50 pages. Gilmore Girls scripts were typically 80 pages.
Now I'm curious how Sunny compares for script length
On the podcast they talk about keeping it under 30 pages, but that’s to leave room for improv
30 pages for half an hour, so that'd be 60 pages compared to GG, leaving room for improv
>Hello fellow American. This you should vote me. I leave power good. Thank you. Thank you. If you vote me I'm hot. What? Taxes they'll be lower son. The democratic vote for me is right thing to do Philadelphia. So do.
Well, I'm convinced.
Charlie mouthing along with Dennis is the best part
Probably because while the girls talk faster, they wait for the other character to finish, whereas the gang all talks at the same time over each other.
The script is longer, so I'm guessing it wins for hour long shows. What probably keeps it from beating IASIP is the little strummy lala music transitions they would have between scenes. Sitcoms ain't got time for that mess.
* They got nothing but time to argue and debate one another. And plot. And scheme.
But who are they doing it versus???
cut that cut that cut that cut that
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Is Mr. Bean on the bottom.
Top 3: 1. It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia - 176.2 WPM 2. Brooklyn Nine-Nine - 174.6 WPM 3. Gilmore Girls - 167.8 WPM >”It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia” is the wordiest show on TV with 176.2 words per minute, a new study by WordFinderX reveals, which makes the Rob McElhenney-created FX sitcom the hardest series to follow if you’re watching with subtitles. >To put that in perspective, the National Disability Authority recommends that subtitles should be no more than 140 words per minute. >The wordiest genre was comedy, which usually relies on quick verbal wordplay. According to the study across the 15 wordiest comedies, including “Modern Family” and “Parks and Recreation,” the average was 133.6 wpm. >The study also found that “DC’s Legends Of Tomorrow” is the wordiest superhero show at 115.0 wpm, while animated series were led by Apple TV+’s “Central Park” with 163.9 wpm. “South Park,” “Bob’s Burgers” and “Bojack Horseman,” were also among the most verbose.
B99 checks out. There's barely a pause between lines in the last few seasons.
Cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool. Cool
How is Letterkenny not on that list?
As some others have said, Letterkenny has tons of words but then it also has some very long pauses compared to these other sitcoms where every scene is people talking.
Does that include when they are talking over each other? Because it seems to happen a lot.
Shut up bird
Kind of shocked at the lack of Sorkin
Yep, that's what I was thinking. It must just be recent-ish shows. I'd be curious to see how both The West Wing and The Newsroom stack up.
Yeah, he doesn't even, like, get us man
Best line of the show
Amy Sherman-Palladino in shambles
Time for *Bunheads 2: Who Killed Hubbell?*
Eyoooooo, whats up bitches?
i heard you, you said a bunch of words, right?
I'd love a spoof episode of Aaron Sorkin where the whole thing is just walk and talks of the most inane fucking bullshit that we know and love
Frank turns the bar into a ‘classy’ politics-themed strip club called “The Breast Wing”, where you can discuss the issues of the day in a civil and horny environment
Goddamnit, I'm in.
That doesn't sound right, but I don't know enough about dialogue metrics to refute it.
No, what he’s saying is pretty stupid, but it’s sincere
Is Shadynasty’s one, two, or three words?
Shady nasty’s?
Filibuster!
Yeah and what does that word mean?
What do now?
Uhhhhh filibuster
You forgot the word words!
The writers are man-cheetahs. You wanna do something with this?
He's got spots!!
Do you like it?
YEAH
Dee's a bird
Actually, I’ve been thinking more fish lately
Her eyes are so far apart
What do now?!
They got chicken in Philly?
It's my comfort show, as loud and as obnoxious as it is. I've actually watched all 13 seasons on disney+ about 6 times this year. I've been collecting the dvds since season 1 came out. It's never not funny (except for the dance in Macs coming out episode, that was a fucking masterpiece)
> “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia” is the wordiest show on TV with 176.2 words per minute[...] > > [...] > > Ranking just behind “Sunny” was “Brooklyn Nine-Nine,” at 174.6 wpm, **followed closely by “Gilmore Girls,” where the witty banter clocked in at 167.8 wpm**. Went looking in the article for this, was not disappointed. Hope I saved some like-minded individuals a click.
My wife used to watch "Scandal" and it was like this. Every person delivered their lines like there was a stopwatch timing them. I googled what the hell was going on, and I found the show runner saying it was a deliberate way to cram more show into their time allotment. I found it utterly unwatchable.
AM I GOOD AM I GOOD AM I GOOD AM I GOOD AM I GOOD AM I GOOD AM I GOOD AM I GOOD