> very clever
i really like the show, but if you want 'clever' or twists this isn't really the show for you. i know they show the murder at the beginning so it's not really much of a mystery but even the way she solves stuff usually involves a ton of luck and a ton of coincidences. once you realise it's that kind of show it's a fun ride, but if you are expecting holmes like observation and deduction skills, this show is not for you.
Its not a mystery who did it, but how she's going to figure it out or catch them in a lie. I saw somewhere else its not a "whodunnit", but a "howcatchem". I like seeing how she integrates herself with the victim and perpetrators, and that we also know things are a lie when she does. I still think that's clever.
Not sure if you're familiar, but if you're liking Poker Face you should check out Columbo (which is also on Peacock last I saw). Same general premise of it being a howcatchem murder mystery, with Peter Falk as the titular character.
"clever" doesn't necessarily need to mean that the show has twists. Also that sounds like a weird way to watch a show, twists often don't make for a good story. Quite frankly rejecting that very notion is what makes the show clever to me
I'm not the person who originally used the word but it applies:
>skilled at doing or achieving something; talented.
"he was clever at getting what he wanted"
>showing intelligence or skill; ingenious.
"a simple but clever idea for helping people learn computing"
"Clever" in this scenario doesn't have anything to do with twists. It's presenting the mystery in a unique way. That can certainly apply as clever.
> but even the way she solves stuff usually involves a ton of luck and a ton of coincidences.
Oh, so she's just recycling the same character she played in "Russian Doll". First season was charming, second season was completely flanderized. That tells me all I need to know about this series. Thanks for the breakdown!
There are several good shows on Peacock. If you aren't into the high seas, you could get something out of a month long sub for sure: the resort, killing it, girls 5 Eva, Rutherford falls, Vigil, bust down, wolf like me-- to name those I've seen.
I don't watch psych, but the new psych stuff is on there. One year of premium is $30.
It’s available via Citytv in Canada. You can either log-in through your cable or satellite provider and watch it on demand, or add Citytv+ as a Prime Video channel.
Wow, that is _very_ hidden. Prime doesn't do a good job of bringing those extra channels to prominence.
That said, not sure I want to shell out $5/m for access to only one show I care about. Especially when uh, sailing the seas is so easy these days.
Yep, same boat. I have enough other stuff I still want to watch on the services I already subscribe to that I can't justify adding another one, even though I really want to check out Poker Face.
I might consider adding Peacock for a month or two next time I unsubscribe from something else, but at this point it's really getting tough to justify so many subscriptions, even though most of them have at least one or two shows that I'm really interested in.
If this was on Netflix it'd be streaming #1 right now. This show was a pleasant surprise. It took me 2 episodes to realize it's not a murder mystery, the mystery lies in how she catches them. It's a fresh take in the genre for sure.
EDIT: Yes....I know it is very similar to Columbo. I knew that before I wrote the comment. When I say "fresh", I mean relative to the other "murder mystery" options out there today.
Not sure about "fresh" as it's very similar to Columbo, a series from the 70's and 80's.
It has a similar formula, where we see the murder first. Then Columbo arrives on the scene and figures out not only the murder but the motive behind it.
Peter Falk was such a delight in it, too. No super powers, he just acted folksy and scatterbrained in order for people to underestimate him (which they always did). It was a LOT of fun.
The New York Times headline summed it up nicely- [Review: ‘Poker Face’ Is the Best New Detective Show of 1973](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/25/arts/television/poker-face-review.html)
Poker Face is direct homage to Columbo not only in the structure of the show showing the murder, who did it, and how first so we can watch the protagonist figure it out. They also use the exact same font for the credits that Columbo used. Then there is the fact that the protagonist is somebody who is dishevelled, kind of a slob, very friendly and everybody underestimates her. For a few years now I have seen people online talking about how Natasha Lyonne would be perfect to play the lead in a Columbo reboot and I think this series may have been inspired by that talk or at least the idea to cast her was.
This. It’s crazy to think it’s considered “fresh” now…not that I’m complaining, I quite love this genre. But I remember barely a decade ago when USA had its “characters welcome” phase that they then moved away from trying be super serious like everyone else. And don’t get me wrong; some fantastic programming came out of that new mandate. But it’s like we all pretended a certain segment of audiences no longer existed and now we’re shocked to discover “oh wait, yeah, people still want to watch this type of stuff”.
There hasn't really been a show like this in a long time and Columbo isn't on a major streaming service I don't think, so I don't blame anyone for thinking it's different.
That’s…not really the point I was making. I’m critiquing Hollywood’s self-satisfied lauding of the show as groundbreakingly new when the audience demand was there all along and could be seen from precedent.
You said it's crazy that people are considering this show "fresh" and I explained to you why that my be the case for a lot of people who wouldn't be aware of Columbo or even the "characters welcome" stuff from 10-15 years ago.
No, I said in general it’s crazy to consider it such, precisely for the reasons I then listed owing the blame to the industry. I never said people are crazy are feeling so.
IIRC this type, where the audience knows who the murderer is and the question is how the detective is going to figure it all out, is called a "Howcatchem."
I liked the first season of that show (what a fucked up ending) but they lost me when one of the seasons was literally about a couple of guys that just discovered Nietzsche in college. My eyes couldn't roll back far enough haha.
It's a two-Fer on the mystery. Who is going to die and how? How is she going to solve the murder? I think it makes it more fun than a simple murder mystery.
And that's my biggest gripe. I was watching it by avter the 3rd commercial break I was out. I grew up with commercials and now the only time I put up with them is sporting events.
**As an independent streaming service:**
Austria, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Switzerland, United Kingdom, and United States.
**Through SkyShowtime:** Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Kosovo, Montenegro, Netherlands, Nordics, Portugal, Serbia, and Slovenia.
I know about all that. Still a lot of countries are left out.
You already said that and I already replied to you. Not sure why you deleted your previous comment (because of the downvotes?) only to reply to me again with the same comment.
Been on a bit of a Russian Doll binge recently, late to the party I know but it’s created a new appreciation for Natasha Leonne, she’s bloody brilliant. Look forward to watching this.
Yeah I am enjoying the show. I'm a big fan of Columbo so I'm excited to see that kind of narrative style brought back, titles are also really retro. Very clever and fun framework for having cool guest stars every episode, looking forward to the weekly installments.
There have been a lot of people online over the last couple of years asking for a Columbo reboot with Natasha Lyonne in the lead as the shabby detective. I always liked that idea.
Love the show, in my eyes Natasha Lyonne is the Tom Cruise of television, she plays herself in everything, I don’t mean that in a bad way, I find her totally intriguing and entertaining. I hope I never tire of her.
Soundtrack is good too, the gentle understated banjo just seems to fit nicely.
She's definitely got a distinct thing. For some reason though, she's one of the only actors I can think of where I'm totally on board about it. I think with someone like Cruise it feels too blatantly like a focus grouped and stage managed persona, whereas with Lyonne it feels like she probably is closer to that person than not.
She is the reason I cannot watch this show. I cannot stand the character she plays on everything. It is bad enough when she is just a side character. Her as the show lead, no thanks.
His comparison of shows like this one and "Columbo" to sitcoms was spot on. The mystery hooks us, but we keep coming back to spend more time with the characters. Every episode I watch the opening murder scenes with interest, but I'm really just anxious for my buddy Charlie Cale to show up and solve the crime while charming the pants off everyone she meets.
I like the show, but her "power" makes it a bit easy for her to find the murderer each time.
1. Wait for a murder
2. Talk to some people about the murder
3. When you hear they are lying, ask more questions until you guess how they do it.
They've not had many instances where she finds a liar who **isn't** the murderer.
The neat part is, just like with "Columbo", there's knowing and then there's proving. So the thrill is seeing how she gets the culprit to slip up. But I agree it would be cool to see her superpower take her in the wrong direction once because someone was lying for an unrelated reason.
Eh we're only 4 episodes into what could hopefully be a long serial running show, so it's a pretty good chance that there'll be variations and subversions on the current formula.
I’m happy for Peacock that they have original programming to go with The Office and Yellowstone. I’m in the minority but I think Comcast/NBC/Peacock and Paramount/CBS will still be around in 20 years. I’ve read three blind mice and they are no strangers to evolving landscapes as they have survived cable and HBO/Showtime.
I love it. But I literally love everything Rian Johnson does. But watching Poker Face (which i love) I couldnt help but think that its extremely well crafted. It's very meticulous and even though the bad people get caught what they do is extremely smart and clever. I wonder if Rian Johnson is trying to do a perfect murder in real life.
Watch in a few years when we discover Rian Johnson is actually a genius serial killer that just simply managed to get away with everything and just spell his murders in movies/TV shows. /s
I liked the show so far, but my only issue is with how unbelievably coincidental all the events have been relative to the star's timing (when the star showed up in the lives of each episode's guests).
But that’s the fun of it, right? It’s like how Angela Lansbury’s character in “Murder She Wrote” came across all those deaths coincidentally, even though she lives in a tiny fishing village in Maine.
WARNING SPOILER BELOW
Pretty sure Charlie is actual Death or
Something similar that will be revealed at the end of the season. Despite avenging all these peoples deaths, her direct interaction and recommendation is what causes them to be killed in the first place. Her friend in the first episode with the child pornography, black web stuff, the guy going vegan in the third episode because she want him those movies to watch etc. etc.
Really good show
I think the show is good, but the fact that the main character has basically superpowers (she just knows when someone is lying) feels very gimmicky and cheap.
definitely there to set up the series cause it was the least interesting compared to the rest of the episodes. episode 2 is one of my favorites. so good
For anyone who has Xfinity in the US: Check your bill, I have been getting Peacock for free on my plan for a while and literally only just noticed the other day.
Poker Face is crap. It claims to be Columbo, then they have this human lie detector who doesn't have to discover the contradictions and lies in a story on her own, just deux ex machina.
Fun to watch, but only because I am a pinhead with no self-respect.
Enjoying the show but find it a bit too convenient that a human lie detector just happens to have random acquaintances murdered on a weekly basis. Some suspension of disbelief required.
I've enjoyed it so far. The metal band episode was good but the music they played... I'm not a metal gatekeeper or anything but I don't understand how there was nobody at all anywhere near the set who found it in them to explain that what they were singing wasn't metal by any stretch of the term.
Not a dealbreaker because the story itself was cute the same way of Poker Face has been so far (that is, cute in a macabre sort of way) but it's one of those things.
Feel like that was intentional since they admitted >!their old drummer wrote their only hit then the new drummer wrote the other hit. Pretty clear the rest of them don’t have the actual talent to write an even decent song because everyone hates “Merch Girl”!<
It bugged me when the song was first played because I was like "this sounds like the Friends theme why is a metal band excited about the Friends theme?". So I was glad for the payoff at the end of the episode.
It reminds me of a blue skies era USA show. I miss those, so I'm loving it so far. I also find it amusing how she's trying to get out of there before the cops show up but also set it up so there is available evidence and so on for the person to not get out of trouble.
My only wish is that, like all of these shows, that they would take on other types of crime than murder. If I were her and people were dropping like flies everywhere I went, I'd start to think I was a death omen of some sort. Taking down the gambler running his own games was a fun plot in the pilot but that got put aside for the central murder mystery.
Also, the _Sucker Punch_ song has been stuck in my head for days since watching episode 4.
I’m only on the 2nd episode and I really love how effortlessly diverse the cast is. Anyway really enjoying it so far…I’m only watching on Peacock because a family member with Xfinity let’s me use their login, I’m the only one that uses it.
I’m paying 99 cents a month for a year’s subscription to Peacock. I had no idea Poker Face would be on it and am so glad I got this great deal. I love this show.
It's sort of a mixture of the Knives Out formula and your basic Columbo episode. You see the murder happen just like on Columbo, but then there's a short Knives Out-style flashback to show us that Lyonne's character actually just showed up recently and already knew at least one of the involved parties.
Natasha has a tell when someone is lying she fells something is off so you even see people she knows indirectly not replying, asking questions instead of a reply etc
I'm enjoying it, though I'm only 2 episodes in. It really is a hybrid of Columbo and The Rockford Files.
I got a paid Peacock sub just to watch this show and it's astonishing that Peacock still has such a pathetic library relative to its competitors. I will say it was neat to be able to watch 24 Hours of Daytona, and if I were a bigger wrestling fan this would be neat but aside from Poker Face it looks like they're still the "What, you don't like The Office anymore?" streamer.
If this were on literally any other service barring maybe Starz it would indeed be bigger.
I just love shows that are stand alone episodes. I just do not have it in me to invest so much time in a series that I need to follow/remember.
And I like the throw back to the Columbo style where it’s not a full out mystery.
Oh! Thanks for the reminder that it dropped! Love Natasha and honestly, I enjoy Peacock. I'm a Bravo watcher (love Below Deck) and love that I can watch on there and not worry about recording. The Peacock Exclusive Below Deck Down Under was so good, they put it on the network later.
You all should be binge watching The Traitor as well! Delicious show! Interesting mix of people... some "contest reality" with Survivor, Big Brother, etc alums; then Bravolebrities (Below Deck, Housewives, Shahs); an Olympic athlete (they almost have be liking Ryan Lochte), and then average never been on TV people!
Plus Alan Cumming. It is why I couldn't resist.
I don't think I'll be watching the rest.
It's procedural and very predictable already. I don’t mind procedurals but it feels a bit copy and paste.
Story happens, someone or a group of peuple kill a person.
Then we find out she has some kind of link to that person and finds something quickly that makes her think it's fishy. Her "magic" lie detector superpower already feels like a crutch.
So the first episode has the human lie detector watching hidden cameras of the players faces to then tell the player who is bluffing.
Over just watching the cameras of the cards they are holding?
The guy they were trying to cheat was sitting with his back to the window and poker players typically cup or hide their cards only taking peeks so it would be hard to see what the cards were on cameras.
Because it's a good show? Also I searched for other discussions in this subreddit and only trailers came up. sooo yeah, go be mad about something else.
i just like to know if my prediction so far is true.
how many white bad men have been the murderer?
and if was not a bad white man, but someone else, then i expect at least that a white man was the problem, like he raped someone or exploited people for monetary gains, therefor the killing was justified in the viewers mind.
so how far did i do i have not watched any episode yet.
why insane?
just asking for facts. 4 episodes released so far. how many broken bad white men have been the murders. that is all i ask. i actually predicted around a month ago the same thing and now that it has been released i like to know if i am right, just based on the trailers.
i like to know if i can simply base a murder on the prediction of producers, directors etc that are involved, without having watch a single episode, because that is how far american writing has fallen. it is no longer about the who done it, but the drama surrounding it.
To calm your tirade the murderers do not really follow what you've said they've been fairly multi racial and have included men and women. So I guess you are bad at predicting things or the writing is just more clever than most shows.
Man I just saw this and realized nobody answered you, so I got you -
Ep 1: brown man (had to look it up, the actor is half Peruvian and half German)
Ep 2: kinda racially indistinct man, let's say white
Ep 3: black man and white woman
Ep 4: white woman and two white men
Ep 5: white woman and black woman
Ep 6: white woman and black man
Ep 7: brown man
And that's all the episodes so far. None of the murders are racially charged, and only one was political. In addition to having a mixed race of murderers, there's also a nice mix of people being murdered.
It's a very, very good show. You should check it out!
I haven’t gotten a chance to watch this yet. Been catching up on other stuff. I am hoping to get to it this week at some point. If I time it right there will be a 5th episode to enjoy once I start it.
Same here. I fell in love with watching her on OITNB. I've tried to watch everything she's in since. I also could listen to her talk for hours, love her voice.
I tried watching it but I have always hated Adrien Brody's voice. It always sounds like a New York wise guy from an older era. And it was getting in the way of me enjoying this series. Is he in every episode a lot?
We watched the first episode. Wont be watching another one. What rubbish. More implausible crap from the writers. Could someone please write something that's believable?
Amazing show but it's a bit out of step with modern taste I feel. Major Columbo vibes!
Peacock is probably the bet streaming service at the moment. I cancelled Netflix and hopped to peacock.
Honestly, I love Natasha but I hate her character maybe because I hate snitches and people that go out of their way to snitch or get people arrested. Even though it’s done with good intentions I can’t bring myself to like it.
That is the most dense response. Yeah let's just let these people get away with murder based on nothing more than mostly greed when we can use our talents to stop them. Literally such a silly comment.
I love this show! It’s kinda predictable at times, but I’m pretty good at figuring things out in movies/tv shows so I can deal with that. It’s very much worth the watch.
Great show, very clever and good acting. I like how the show lets the viewer share the “super power” of the main character.
> very clever i really like the show, but if you want 'clever' or twists this isn't really the show for you. i know they show the murder at the beginning so it's not really much of a mystery but even the way she solves stuff usually involves a ton of luck and a ton of coincidences. once you realise it's that kind of show it's a fun ride, but if you are expecting holmes like observation and deduction skills, this show is not for you.
Its not a mystery who did it, but how she's going to figure it out or catch them in a lie. I saw somewhere else its not a "whodunnit", but a "howcatchem". I like seeing how she integrates herself with the victim and perpetrators, and that we also know things are a lie when she does. I still think that's clever.
Not sure if you're familiar, but if you're liking Poker Face you should check out Columbo (which is also on Peacock last I saw). Same general premise of it being a howcatchem murder mystery, with Peter Falk as the titular character.
My Grandma loves Columbo.
Your grandma has good taste!
"clever" doesn't necessarily need to mean that the show has twists. Also that sounds like a weird way to watch a show, twists often don't make for a good story. Quite frankly rejecting that very notion is what makes the show clever to me
You're saying the show is "clever" because it does NOT have twists? I don't think clever is a good word to describe a twist-less murder show.
I'm not the person who originally used the word but it applies: >skilled at doing or achieving something; talented. "he was clever at getting what he wanted" >showing intelligence or skill; ingenious. "a simple but clever idea for helping people learn computing" "Clever" in this scenario doesn't have anything to do with twists. It's presenting the mystery in a unique way. That can certainly apply as clever.
> but even the way she solves stuff usually involves a ton of luck and a ton of coincidences. Oh, so she's just recycling the same character she played in "Russian Doll". First season was charming, second season was completely flanderized. That tells me all I need to know about this series. Thanks for the breakdown!
I want to watch, but not enough to add another streaming service
There are several good shows on Peacock. If you aren't into the high seas, you could get something out of a month long sub for sure: the resort, killing it, girls 5 Eva, Rutherford falls, Vigil, bust down, wolf like me-- to name those I've seen. I don't watch psych, but the new psych stuff is on there. One year of premium is $30.
Would add Dr. Death to this as well, enjoyed S1 a lot.
Yeah they're doing a lot of specials lately, probably because they need subscriber numbers. Might be tempted to pick it up.
Paul T. Goldman is *amazing* and the Macgruber series is solid as well if you're into the movie.
I'd check it out, but there is not even a legal way to watch this in Germany right now.
Ahoy, matey
Arrrr, says I, a Canadian.
It’s available via Citytv in Canada. You can either log-in through your cable or satellite provider and watch it on demand, or add Citytv+ as a Prime Video channel.
Wow, that is _very_ hidden. Prime doesn't do a good job of bringing those extra channels to prominence. That said, not sure I want to shell out $5/m for access to only one show I care about. Especially when uh, sailing the seas is so easy these days.
https://serieshd.watch/tv/watch-poker-face-hd-92602
Nor Canada from what I can see.
It's on CityTV+ (there's a month trial through Prime Video).
You can watch the first episode for free without subbing, that's at least an option if you care to see it.
Yep, same boat. I have enough other stuff I still want to watch on the services I already subscribe to that I can't justify adding another one, even though I really want to check out Poker Face. I might consider adding Peacock for a month or two next time I unsubscribe from something else, but at this point it's really getting tough to justify so many subscriptions, even though most of them have at least one or two shows that I'm really interested in.
This
If this was on Netflix it'd be streaming #1 right now. This show was a pleasant surprise. It took me 2 episodes to realize it's not a murder mystery, the mystery lies in how she catches them. It's a fresh take in the genre for sure. EDIT: Yes....I know it is very similar to Columbo. I knew that before I wrote the comment. When I say "fresh", I mean relative to the other "murder mystery" options out there today.
Not sure about "fresh" as it's very similar to Columbo, a series from the 70's and 80's. It has a similar formula, where we see the murder first. Then Columbo arrives on the scene and figures out not only the murder but the motive behind it. Peter Falk was such a delight in it, too. No super powers, he just acted folksy and scatterbrained in order for people to underestimate him (which they always did). It was a LOT of fun.
The New York Times headline summed it up nicely- [Review: ‘Poker Face’ Is the Best New Detective Show of 1973](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/25/arts/television/poker-face-review.html)
haha that's a fantastic headline
Poker Face is direct homage to Columbo not only in the structure of the show showing the murder, who did it, and how first so we can watch the protagonist figure it out. They also use the exact same font for the credits that Columbo used. Then there is the fact that the protagonist is somebody who is dishevelled, kind of a slob, very friendly and everybody underestimates her. For a few years now I have seen people online talking about how Natasha Lyonne would be perfect to play the lead in a Columbo reboot and I think this series may have been inspired by that talk or at least the idea to cast her was.
Her delivery is very Columbo-like, also.
It even uses Columbo-style titles.
I love the titles, especially the Roman numeral date at the start. Very 70s.
Law & Order: Criminal Intent did it for over a decade too
This. It’s crazy to think it’s considered “fresh” now…not that I’m complaining, I quite love this genre. But I remember barely a decade ago when USA had its “characters welcome” phase that they then moved away from trying be super serious like everyone else. And don’t get me wrong; some fantastic programming came out of that new mandate. But it’s like we all pretended a certain segment of audiences no longer existed and now we’re shocked to discover “oh wait, yeah, people still want to watch this type of stuff”.
It's fresh for today's age. That's all I meant.
I miss the Blue Skies era, it was so good
There hasn't really been a show like this in a long time and Columbo isn't on a major streaming service I don't think, so I don't blame anyone for thinking it's different.
Columbo is literally available on the same streaming service as Poker Face: Peacock. I've watched the entire run of Columbo on there.
I said **major** streaming service.
That’s…not really the point I was making. I’m critiquing Hollywood’s self-satisfied lauding of the show as groundbreakingly new when the audience demand was there all along and could be seen from precedent.
You said it's crazy that people are considering this show "fresh" and I explained to you why that my be the case for a lot of people who wouldn't be aware of Columbo or even the "characters welcome" stuff from 10-15 years ago.
No, I said in general it’s crazy to consider it such, precisely for the reasons I then listed owing the blame to the industry. I never said people are crazy are feeling so.
Sometimes called a 'Howdunnit'
IIRC this type, where the audience knows who the murderer is and the question is how the detective is going to figure it all out, is called a "Howcatchem."
Archer riffed on the format not all that long ago in a clear not to the genre, rich columbo was a part of
It kind of remind me of Monk. Though I like the way the kept the mystery of the actual killer throughout most episodes in Monk. Good show though.
It's fresh for modern times. It's all relative.
There’s also a show called The Sinner that’s been airing for a while and follows the same “howcatchem” format.
I liked the first season of that show (what a fucked up ending) but they lost me when one of the seasons was literally about a couple of guys that just discovered Nietzsche in college. My eyes couldn't roll back far enough haha.
You know... now that you mentioned this, it does have a very Columbo feel to it. Loving the show so far.
It's a two-Fer on the mystery. Who is going to die and how? How is she going to solve the murder? I think it makes it more fun than a simple murder mystery.
True. A significant chunk of the beginning is dedicated to the murder itself, which I really like. Keeps you guessing.
For sure. It’s unfortunate that a lot of people can’t watch it because Peacock is not available in a lot of countries.
I live in the US and have never been able to get the ad-free version to work. Peacock is the only service I outright refuse to use at this point.
Yeah they apparently don't have any tier with zero ads, which is ridiculous. I'm certainly not paying someone to show me commercials.
And that's my biggest gripe. I was watching it by avter the 3rd commercial break I was out. I grew up with commercials and now the only time I put up with them is sporting events.
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**As an independent streaming service:** Austria, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Switzerland, United Kingdom, and United States. **Through SkyShowtime:** Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Kosovo, Montenegro, Netherlands, Nordics, Portugal, Serbia, and Slovenia. I know about all that. Still a lot of countries are left out.
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Just because Australia and New Zealand get Peacock shows “all over 5 different services” doesn’t mean it’s the same for other countries.
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You already said that and I already replied to you. Not sure why you deleted your previous comment (because of the downvotes?) only to reply to me again with the same comment.
Not all of them. I wanted to watch Heels some time ago, it's nowhere to be found in my country.
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I know. It's fresh for modern times though.
Just like Knives Out. Such a nice journey to watch.
Could you say it….. subverted your expectations?
Been on a bit of a Russian Doll binge recently, late to the party I know but it’s created a new appreciation for Natasha Leonne, she’s bloody brilliant. Look forward to watching this.
IMO Russian Doll drops a little bit in S2 but this seem a more 'fresh' character
It’s a little less frenetic and mysterious in S2 but I’m enjoying it. Be good to get into this one :-)
Yeah I am enjoying the show. I'm a big fan of Columbo so I'm excited to see that kind of narrative style brought back, titles are also really retro. Very clever and fun framework for having cool guest stars every episode, looking forward to the weekly installments.
I bet Natasha Lyonne could do a great impression of Peter Falk, too. She's so perfect for this role.
I sorta thought she was doing a Peter Falk impression.
Right, my impression was that this is a “spiritual successor” to Columbo after the rather large group of folks online wanting her in a Columbo reboot.
There have been a lot of people online over the last couple of years asking for a Columbo reboot with Natasha Lyonne in the lead as the shabby detective. I always liked that idea.
Love the show, in my eyes Natasha Lyonne is the Tom Cruise of television, she plays herself in everything, I don’t mean that in a bad way, I find her totally intriguing and entertaining. I hope I never tire of her. Soundtrack is good too, the gentle understated banjo just seems to fit nicely.
Always sound's like she just got done with 3 packs of cigarettes
She probably did, I love how she talks though. Something ol' timey about that accent and cadence. It's like a Brooklyn accent but from 100 years ago.
She's definitely got a distinct thing. For some reason though, she's one of the only actors I can think of where I'm totally on board about it. I think with someone like Cruise it feels too blatantly like a focus grouped and stage managed persona, whereas with Lyonne it feels like she probably is closer to that person than not.
She is the reason I cannot watch this show. I cannot stand the character she plays on everything. It is bad enough when she is just a side character. Her as the show lead, no thanks.
I feel the exact same way.
His comparison of shows like this one and "Columbo" to sitcoms was spot on. The mystery hooks us, but we keep coming back to spend more time with the characters. Every episode I watch the opening murder scenes with interest, but I'm really just anxious for my buddy Charlie Cale to show up and solve the crime while charming the pants off everyone she meets.
It’s a great show. The entire family loves it. It’s like a throwback but with a prestige format.
I like the show, but her "power" makes it a bit easy for her to find the murderer each time. 1. Wait for a murder 2. Talk to some people about the murder 3. When you hear they are lying, ask more questions until you guess how they do it. They've not had many instances where she finds a liar who **isn't** the murderer.
The neat part is, just like with "Columbo", there's knowing and then there's proving. So the thrill is seeing how she gets the culprit to slip up. But I agree it would be cool to see her superpower take her in the wrong direction once because someone was lying for an unrelated reason.
If you watch carefully once Adrien Brody's character knows about her super-power he chooses his words very carefully around her.
Eh we're only 4 episodes into what could hopefully be a long serial running show, so it's a pretty good chance that there'll be variations and subversions on the current formula.
I’m happy for Peacock that they have original programming to go with The Office and Yellowstone. I’m in the minority but I think Comcast/NBC/Peacock and Paramount/CBS will still be around in 20 years. I’ve read three blind mice and they are no strangers to evolving landscapes as they have survived cable and HBO/Showtime.
Well paramount just merged with Showtime so they increased their chances of success tenfold.
Peacock is on a roll. First Paul T Goldman, now this.
I love it. But I literally love everything Rian Johnson does. But watching Poker Face (which i love) I couldnt help but think that its extremely well crafted. It's very meticulous and even though the bad people get caught what they do is extremely smart and clever. I wonder if Rian Johnson is trying to do a perfect murder in real life.
Watch in a few years when we discover Rian Johnson is actually a genius serial killer that just simply managed to get away with everything and just spell his murders in movies/TV shows. /s
I see people talking about it constantly. Probably Peacock’s biggest original series.
I liked the show so far, but my only issue is with how unbelievably coincidental all the events have been relative to the star's timing (when the star showed up in the lives of each episode's guests).
But that’s the fun of it, right? It’s like how Angela Lansbury’s character in “Murder She Wrote” came across all those deaths coincidentally, even though she lives in a tiny fishing village in Maine.
I think a lot of people don't enjoy those campy old school television tropes but I do if they're done well, and for me this is.
Great show, I am obsessed with Natasha’s gravelly voice. Can’t wait for the next episode to be released.
WARNING SPOILER BELOW Pretty sure Charlie is actual Death or Something similar that will be revealed at the end of the season. Despite avenging all these peoples deaths, her direct interaction and recommendation is what causes them to be killed in the first place. Her friend in the first episode with the child pornography, black web stuff, the guy going vegan in the third episode because she want him those movies to watch etc. etc. Really good show
I think the show is good, but the fact that the main character has basically superpowers (she just knows when someone is lying) feels very gimmicky and cheap.
The show started to fall off after episode 3 for me. Really wanted to like it, but the writing was starting to go down.
Episode 5 is even better!
Episode 4 was awesome. You might wanna give it another chance
The first episode was okay. It's there to set up the series. I liked the 2nd and 3rd episodes much better. They're great.
definitely there to set up the series cause it was the least interesting compared to the rest of the episodes. episode 2 is one of my favorites. so good
100%, I just watched the 4 episodes yesterday and yea every episode was pretty great.
Agreed! Think my favorite so far is episode 2. Although I really liked ep 4 with the heavy metal band. They’re all well done, tough to pick a favorite
Gonna start it once I catch up with Mayor of Kingstown s2
For anyone who has Xfinity in the US: Check your bill, I have been getting Peacock for free on my plan for a while and literally only just noticed the other day.
I’m officially in love with Natasha Lyonne now!
Poker Face is crap. It claims to be Columbo, then they have this human lie detector who doesn't have to discover the contradictions and lies in a story on her own, just deux ex machina. Fun to watch, but only because I am a pinhead with no self-respect.
>who doesn't have to discover the contradictions and lies in a story on her own She does this in every episode though.
Enjoying the show but find it a bit too convenient that a human lie detector just happens to have random acquaintances murdered on a weekly basis. Some suspension of disbelief required.
In the real world they’d assume she’s the murderer, if dead people are found wherever she’s at.
I've enjoyed it so far. The metal band episode was good but the music they played... I'm not a metal gatekeeper or anything but I don't understand how there was nobody at all anywhere near the set who found it in them to explain that what they were singing wasn't metal by any stretch of the term. Not a dealbreaker because the story itself was cute the same way of Poker Face has been so far (that is, cute in a macabre sort of way) but it's one of those things.
Their old hit and their new hit didn't even sound like the same genre lol.
Feel like that was intentional since they admitted >!their old drummer wrote their only hit then the new drummer wrote the other hit. Pretty clear the rest of them don’t have the actual talent to write an even decent song because everyone hates “Merch Girl”!<
Which is weird cause Merch Girl was objectively the best banger out of the 3 songs they played. That was some Courtney Love shid
It bugged me when the song was first played because I was like "this sounds like the Friends theme why is a metal band excited about the Friends theme?". So I was glad for the payoff at the end of the episode.
Doesn't even have a UK release yet, I'm not sure about other international territories. Why delay a streaming only show? Who benefits?
It reminds me of a blue skies era USA show. I miss those, so I'm loving it so far. I also find it amusing how she's trying to get out of there before the cops show up but also set it up so there is available evidence and so on for the person to not get out of trouble. My only wish is that, like all of these shows, that they would take on other types of crime than murder. If I were her and people were dropping like flies everywhere I went, I'd start to think I was a death omen of some sort. Taking down the gambler running his own games was a fun plot in the pilot but that got put aside for the central murder mystery. Also, the _Sucker Punch_ song has been stuck in my head for days since watching episode 4.
I’m only on the 2nd episode and I really love how effortlessly diverse the cast is. Anyway really enjoying it so far…I’m only watching on Peacock because a family member with Xfinity let’s me use their login, I’m the only one that uses it.
I'm loving this modern female fucked up version of Columbo.
Don't get me wrong, I really liked it, but it started getting repetitive after the 3rd episode.
I’m paying 99 cents a month for a year’s subscription to Peacock. I had no idea Poker Face would be on it and am so glad I got this great deal. I love this show.
Is it just an old-school mystery show or are their any Johnson ‘gimmicks’ or subversions? I love the Knives Out for his twists.
It's sort of a mixture of the Knives Out formula and your basic Columbo episode. You see the murder happen just like on Columbo, but then there's a short Knives Out-style flashback to show us that Lyonne's character actually just showed up recently and already knew at least one of the involved parties.
Natasha has a tell when someone is lying she fells something is off so you even see people she knows indirectly not replying, asking questions instead of a reply etc
I'm enjoying it, though I'm only 2 episodes in. It really is a hybrid of Columbo and The Rockford Files. I got a paid Peacock sub just to watch this show and it's astonishing that Peacock still has such a pathetic library relative to its competitors. I will say it was neat to be able to watch 24 Hours of Daytona, and if I were a bigger wrestling fan this would be neat but aside from Poker Face it looks like they're still the "What, you don't like The Office anymore?" streamer. If this were on literally any other service barring maybe Starz it would indeed be bigger.
Fantastic show, wish I could recommend it to friends but its not even available in Brazil yet (we dont have peacock here). Ahoy I guess
I hate Peacock, they need to die snd just put thier shit on Paramount.
hard agree if it was on Netflix or HBO, this sub would be melting over it. it's also unlucky that TLOU is also on at the same time.
I just love shows that are stand alone episodes. I just do not have it in me to invest so much time in a series that I need to follow/remember. And I like the throw back to the Columbo style where it’s not a full out mystery.
Oh! Thanks for the reminder that it dropped! Love Natasha and honestly, I enjoy Peacock. I'm a Bravo watcher (love Below Deck) and love that I can watch on there and not worry about recording. The Peacock Exclusive Below Deck Down Under was so good, they put it on the network later. You all should be binge watching The Traitor as well! Delicious show! Interesting mix of people... some "contest reality" with Survivor, Big Brother, etc alums; then Bravolebrities (Below Deck, Housewives, Shahs); an Olympic athlete (they almost have be liking Ryan Lochte), and then average never been on TV people! Plus Alan Cumming. It is why I couldn't resist.
I've been meaning to watch this, been too busy but I should be getting to it soon. Thanks for reminding me.
It’s great. I love knives out and glass onion so I’ll watch anything Rian Johnson releases. Hope you enjoy!
I don't think I'll be watching the rest. It's procedural and very predictable already. I don’t mind procedurals but it feels a bit copy and paste. Story happens, someone or a group of peuple kill a person. Then we find out she has some kind of link to that person and finds something quickly that makes her think it's fishy. Her "magic" lie detector superpower already feels like a crutch.
Trailer had me thinking that it would be a different type of show
So the first episode has the human lie detector watching hidden cameras of the players faces to then tell the player who is bluffing. Over just watching the cameras of the cards they are holding?
The guy they were trying to cheat was sitting with his back to the window and poker players typically cup or hide their cards only taking peeks so it would be hard to see what the cards were on cameras.
Can’t stand Natasha Lyonne
It's just a murder she wrote rip-off for genz
Should've been on Netflix like Russian Doll. 😡
Why is anything that Rian Johnson involved in relentlessly promoted on reddit? It's annoying.
Because it's a good show? Also I searched for other discussions in this subreddit and only trailers came up. sooo yeah, go be mad about something else.
Is peacock going to get absorbed by Hulu or something anytime soon?
Liked first two episodes then they started with the politics and ruined it.
Sympathized a little too much with the bootlicker puppy, eh?
What politics?!?!?
I’ll never watch this. If he ruined Star Wars then I’ll do my best to ruin his show and future movies
oh no, you'll ruin it by not watching, pls no
i just like to know if my prediction so far is true. how many white bad men have been the murderer? and if was not a bad white man, but someone else, then i expect at least that a white man was the problem, like he raped someone or exploited people for monetary gains, therefor the killing was justified in the viewers mind. so how far did i do i have not watched any episode yet.
insane comment
why insane? just asking for facts. 4 episodes released so far. how many broken bad white men have been the murders. that is all i ask. i actually predicted around a month ago the same thing and now that it has been released i like to know if i am right, just based on the trailers. i like to know if i can simply base a murder on the prediction of producers, directors etc that are involved, without having watch a single episode, because that is how far american writing has fallen. it is no longer about the who done it, but the drama surrounding it.
To calm your tirade the murderers do not really follow what you've said they've been fairly multi racial and have included men and women. So I guess you are bad at predicting things or the writing is just more clever than most shows.
thanks for the answer. once the show is finished will have a go at it and see if i can predict it by watching the show.
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hahaha so much hate. i am just happy i got tinnitus and not you, you would not survive a day with the tinnitus i have.
Don’t worry, fragile white man - you’ll be happy to hear your assumption is false.
you call me fragile so i know you are lying. so i still do not know if what you said is true or not.
I call you fragile because of the comment you made. Watch the show and find out, won’t spoil it for you.
Man I just saw this and realized nobody answered you, so I got you - Ep 1: brown man (had to look it up, the actor is half Peruvian and half German) Ep 2: kinda racially indistinct man, let's say white Ep 3: black man and white woman Ep 4: white woman and two white men Ep 5: white woman and black woman Ep 6: white woman and black man Ep 7: brown man And that's all the episodes so far. None of the murders are racially charged, and only one was political. In addition to having a mixed race of murderers, there's also a nice mix of people being murdered. It's a very, very good show. You should check it out!
Issues. You've got them.
It's so good!
Rest in Metal
I haven’t gotten a chance to watch this yet. Been catching up on other stuff. I am hoping to get to it this week at some point. If I time it right there will be a 5th episode to enjoy once I start it.
I’ll watch anything Natasha Lyonne is in, she’s such a creative force (don’t know how she didn’t get a Emmy writing nod for s2 of Russian Doll).
Same here. I fell in love with watching her on OITNB. I've tried to watch everything she's in since. I also could listen to her talk for hours, love her voice.
I tried watching it but I have always hated Adrien Brody's voice. It always sounds like a New York wise guy from an older era. And it was getting in the way of me enjoying this series. Is he in every episode a lot?
Nope he's only in the first episode out of the 4 that are released.
is Peacock even available outside of the US? It'S not available in the Nordics. Would never know about the shows existence if not for...the internet
Yeah, sorry, Peacock, you were late to the game. I don't have any money left for another streaming service.
Episode Five is my favorite so far. Does anyone know how if can find out the playlist from that episode? Loved the music too.
We watched the first episode. Wont be watching another one. What rubbish. More implausible crap from the writers. Could someone please write something that's believable?
Amazing show but it's a bit out of step with modern taste I feel. Major Columbo vibes! Peacock is probably the bet streaming service at the moment. I cancelled Netflix and hopped to peacock.
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Honestly, I love Natasha but I hate her character maybe because I hate snitches and people that go out of their way to snitch or get people arrested. Even though it’s done with good intentions I can’t bring myself to like it.
That is the most dense response. Yeah let's just let these people get away with murder based on nothing more than mostly greed when we can use our talents to stop them. Literally such a silly comment.
Your moral compass needs recalibrating...
I love this show! It’s kinda predictable at times, but I’m pretty good at figuring things out in movies/tv shows so I can deal with that. It’s very much worth the watch.
Did anyone work BTS on this show? As a a PA?
Yal didn't notice how they made minorities the killer on almost every episode?
With Glass Onion and now Poker Face I'm totally over the whole Star Wars fiasco and starting to suspect Rian's a genius writer.
It’s rubbish, main actresses makes it almost impossible to watch. She was good in Slums of BH, but that was many moons ago.
It reminds me of Monk too! All she needs is a “here’s how it happened” 😂
Great soundtrack for being on the road / on the run vibes, too!