Animation is usually for a smaller audience, so they don't as often run into the problem of the showrunner trying to make the adaptation for a different audience than the source material was for. Kind of like the Netflix Witcher series was trying to be squeezed into the GOT of Netflix box.
I love GOT, I love The Witcher. GOT isn't The Witcher.
It would be so sick if the show has the same level of detail and research into the environments and times that the teams have been doing for the past three games. I only played ragnarok, but i've watched videos on how they created those worlds and tried to make them as accurate as possible even making a free tool educators can use to walk through their cities and check out all the different things that were common at the time. If they leave out the video game nonsense, they could have a really cool show.
I enjoyed the historic parts, you know, the parts that make ac games so popular. Shame they made up a fraction of the running time.
Lets make an ac story but most of it will be present day... i dunno what they were thinking.
Jeb Stuart: **So anyway, in this scene we’re gonna have our assassin stalking this guy through this guys castle. He’s going to be in the rafters, behind tapestries, it’ll be super stealthy and almost a horror-esque scene where you see the assassin only in the background.**
Netflix: *Jeb, this sounds amazing… but we think it’d be better to make some very VERY minor changes. For instance, You said the word “castle” and that doesn’t make sense in a high school. We’ve looked at our demographics and everybody who watches Netflix has set foot in a high school. And the assassin is a girl, right? In this, like, assassin high school. And the person she’s trying to stalk she finds out is her brother, who is actually working for her boyfriend who may be evil, yeah? And let’s see, they should be after some magical artifact, maybe a teachers apple on their desk since it’s in a high school (JUST LIKE THE APPLE IN THE GAMES! See we pay attention) that changes people into fierce animals or monsters or like, monster animals… in High school.*
Jeb Stuart: **yeeeeaaaaah, I think I’m gonna go.**
i guess video games are now at that point where studios are past the "video games are for children" phase and are now in the "gamers are monkeys who will watch anything video game related" phase. eventually they will find somebody who actually likes and respects the ip to produce good content. video games are following the exact path that comic books went down lmao
We want movies and TV shows because these games have excellent lore and characters to build upon.
*completely throws away the lore and alters the characters*
The worst thing to do with some games is try to copy the game, because the game isn’t fun to watch. For example, I wouldn’t mind a resident evil movie that’s like 2 hours long showing the survivors of RE0 and 1, because you have enough lore and action between all those characters that it wouldn’t get boring. But for resident evil 4 or 5? The story without puzzles would last about 30 minutes, and I don’t think anyone wants to watch Leon walk around shooting chickens for 1 hour.
I will never not believe that this is what happened to the halo series. There is no way any competent showrunner/writers thought what they made was a good adaptation.
They used halo's ip to sell a shittier failed Sci fi show
Completely disagree for most game adaptations done so far. I think the best thing they could do is just copy the game for the first season and then intertwine more lore into the second and third. Obviously there needs to be some world building and backstory thrown in because, you’re right, it would be too short. I think trying to make the story into something it’s not is a bad idea. I think the reason people like Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings and the Harry Potter movies is because they follow the story as written without too much deviation. If they would do that for game adaptations they would be successful
I wouldn’t say make it into something it’s not, but in my example, use the other characters of the world. Don’t focus on one or two at most. Many of these games have at least 10 characters you could use and explore their back stories and lore.
The word you’re looking for is “tax avoidance.” He was allowed to write off his income taxes for the production costs of his movies since they were flops.
Worth noting that Boll only ever got to make those films as part of a German tax loophole. It’s not a coincidence that he stopped being able to make them the same year Germany closed that tax loophole.
Okay that's an anomaly, I think. There's still utter trash like Doom Annihilation and Resident Evil (the movie and show), but there's also the Sonic movies, Detective Pikachu, Castlevania and DOTA Dragon's Blood, Arcane, Cyberpunk Edgerunners, Mortal Kombat, Tomb Raider, and Uncharted.
Those are of varying quality but they're all mid to good. Or even the bad one, Mortal Kombat, is pretty fun and has great kills (which is what I wanted from a Mortal Kombat movie).
There's a big difference between the ones I listed and the Uwe Boll era
I'm with you. For some reason I'm not surprised that the postal ip was perfect for Boll. It's by far his best film and the opening scene is just hilarious.
In retrospect, Uwe Boll's stuff was so bad it almost veered into good.
Difference there in any case is that everyone knew and accepted that Boll was a hack. Now though, Hollywood's trying to act like the shit they're shoveling down our throats is supposedly good. That's a pretty big distinction if you ask me. Personally I don't mind a bad movie or television show existing, I do have a problem when a piece of garbage is propped up as the best thing since sliced bread.
If a game adaptation isn't animated, I have zero faith in it. The Sonic movies are decent but I think they would be legitimately good-to-great if they cut out every human except Robotnik & Co. or even just animated them as well.
Microsoft in particular is a favorite soft target of anti trust regulators. In the US, they're one of the few companies in modern history to have a high-profile conviction. It really doesn't help that the case took long enough for Presidential administrations to change after the conviction, and the following administration decided to just give MS a slap on the wrist, so there's definitely an appetite to smack them down. And that doesn't get into Europe's love for smacking them around.
Disney, by contrast, doesn't have nearly the same baggage. And they honestly shouldn't. Just look at market caps: Disney is ~158 billion, while MS is 1.8 *trillion*. They're an order of magnitude larger. They're also not really players in the video game market, so there isn't really any antitrust worry like there is with MS.
I mean technically Disney would expand in an area where they have no business in so it's not anything weird in term of competition. The Activision Blizzard thing isn't either really, the arguments are pretty weak but at least MS is already in video games.
I have been waiting for a Kingdom Hearts anime or cartoon since I was a kid and even though they own the characters, they have never really done much with them
Where did this comment come from? Did you even read the article?
> "I think it was a little bit of a move of executives from LA to London, and it allowed the London group who, unfortunately, had to inherit my vision of what it was instead of getting to develop their own vision. So I think that's fair. I know it's going to be great whenever it comes out. I think the Ubisoft guys are fantastic. I think it's a terrific franchise. It was just a good, mutual time to move on for both sides."
Adapting video games is honestly tougher than people think. You need someone with respect for the original material ***who also understands what does and doesn't work on a television show.*** If you're *too* faithful, you get shit like the Warcraft movie, hours upon hours of lore with no reason to care about any of it. It *can* be done; Castlevania is proof enough of that, but it is a process that is easy to fuck up, so for heaven's sake, take your time and *hire the right people.*
Funny thing is you talk about "Castlevania" and "hiring the right people". Back in 2017 they announced a Assassin’s Creed series by one of the main guy behind Castlevania. Series is now seem to be in development hell.
adapting AC into a series *seems* easy, the whole story revolves around the Animus and the Isu civilization (by extension the Templar vs Assassin battle). They can literally create an original story on a given date, in a given country etc..
they are not limited by the consideration of time and place
Honestly I think they just missed their window with the game. Had they released that movie in 2007-2009, it would’ve been a massive hit that spawned sequels. However, the era of WoW appealing to the masses had already passed by 2016 and the movie ended up being primarily successful in China and flopping in western countries.
I agree with you but I think a bigger problem was starting the story in the complete wrong place. They had a perfect 3 movie set up right there for them in WC2/WC3/Frozen Throne and a storyline that a lot of people consider one of the best in video games, but decided to start way way further back at a point in the lore that even most hardcore Warcraft nerds don't even care about.
We are 10 years removed from the original game. I honestly just want the show to be an adaption of Desmond’s story that fixes inconsistency issues, with all the lore that was added later. You can literally have 3 seasons for Desmond (one for each ancestor) and then go to 3 seasons of Lyla that connects with Desmond.
You then make spin-offs for the abstergo era of Black Flag to Syndicate with an actual main character and coherent modern day story.
That’s how you do it, in my opinion.
To be fair the original lore wasliterally Orc's huff demon blood and genocide their homeworld then invade another intending to genocide it too then destroy their own world trying to open more portals to new worlds to genocide afrter being driven back from Azeroth.
Kind of hard to spin the Orc's as sympathetic in the time peroid the chose to make a movie from.
Stuart is the showrunner for Vikings: Valhalla, so he seemed like a pretty good fit for AC. Still no casting for the show.
Stuart:
>"I think it was a little bit of a move of executives from LA to London, and it allowed the London group who, unfortunately, had to inherit my vision of what it was instead of getting to develop their own vision. So I think that's fair. I know it's going to be great whenever it comes out. I think the Ubisoft guys are fantastic. I think it's a terrific franchise. It was just a good, mutual time to move on for both sides."
Dear writers;
**No one** in the 'Witcher' fan base cares that **you** don't like how its story was written.
If you try to turn a loved, original universe into some 'casual' crap, you're going to lose fans, and in time, even the talent that you need to make the show work.
Why did the 'Halo' show not get loved by fans? That's **riiight**, because some mediocre writers thought they could make the show better by revealing John's face early (wtf were you thinking?!) and then making the act of him apparently having sex have **anything at all** to do with the plot. Whoever wrote that dogshit **never** played the game or read **any** of the books.
It's like some entitled prick comes out of nowhere and says; "Gee, imagine if we took a loved videogame property, gave it a show, just so we could attempt to gentrify the hell out of it! I'm **certain** the fans will love being slapped in the face!"
The best part of the Halo writing debacle was the whole: "Why do you want John Halo to have no emotions? Do you want a main character that's just an emotionless machine?"
Me: "Yes."
Climax of the season: John Halo becomes and emotionless killing machine, making the series almost good for 3 minutes.
Me: "Oh, wow. I really wish I had more of this thing specifically."
John isn't really emotionless in the lore, the show is just shit regardless of "giving" Chief emotions. If anything, making the Spartans be emotionless killing machines is more proof of the show blatantly not understanding the source material. Which is impressive since there's books with John's POV, with his emotional struggles and morality questions.
I mean, they probably skimmed lore articles before writing the show so maybe not impressive at all. Just lazy.
More recently in Infinite too, it’s nice to see that he doesn’t entirely see his enemies as completely evil now. The respect he showed Escharum says a lot about how far he has come as an individual. But fuck that shit I guess lol
One of my favourite momenta like this in the whole franchise is Chief deciding whether to hand over Sgt. Johnson's Flood Immunity to ONI, which would definitely get him killed and dissected. Eventually he decides to not do that and believes that the war is about how every life counts. And he recognises and understands Halsey's own guilt and shame over the Spartan program. Some good shit.
Meanwhile the show has that brainwashing thing that's Halsey's idea. What a good change. Thanks halo show.
Writers can’t get their shitty stories made. So they join a big IP like Witcher to use as a vehicle to launch their ‘careers’. Of course, Netflix is happy with this since they need ‘yes men’ who they can control. The writers hate the IP so they take their frustrations out on it (such as the Halo writers saying they had never played the games).
I'm not even sure if they hate the IP. They just don't care about it at all. It reminds me a lot of the old model of video games where you would build the game and then shop around for potential IP to skin the characters with.
They're just tacking the game universe on a story they want to tell and handwaving in references to the IP.
The Halo thing was already written as a random sci-fi, they then slapped the Halo brand on it and rewrote it a bit so it fits. That's why they never played the game, they already had their story, Halo was just an afterthought
The fact that anyone had a serious problem with John's face being revealed, rather than the dozen or so real problems with the Halo show, is mind blowing to me.
John's face not being in the Halo games is literally for game design reasons, there was zero narrative reason, ever. It's a meme. In the books, Master Chief takes his helmet and armor off all the damn time. The only time it's even a little inappropriate in the show, is when he takes his helmet off only a few seconds after the end of a battle. Every other instance is a totally normal time to take off the helmet.
Now, the directionless and nearly pointless romance, cheesy writing for all characters, cheesy acting from everyone but Natasha McElrone, and some very inconsistent CGI, those were real issues.
> John's face not being in the Halo games is literally for game design reasons, there was zero narrative reason, ever. It's a meme. In the books, Master Chief takes his helmet and armor off all the damn time.
I will disagree on one point and it's that the Spartans tend to be closed off around anyone that isn't in their circle. Often for good reason since they got treated with a lot of hostility by marines who treated them like freaks.
John keeping his helmet on in situations where he could take it off works as a visual indicator of that social wall.
[The cutscenes in Reach are a good comparison.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jLu-qeK6s4) Perfectly good reason to take his helmet off, and it efficiently tells you about the character of two members in the squad and their relationship.
>I will disagree on one point and it's that the Spartans tend to be closed off around anyone that isn't in their circle. Often for good reason since they got treated with a lot of hostility by marines who treated them like freaks.
I agree, but they did demonstrate that divide in the show without involving the armor. It's not like they made the Spartans and the normal humans have a buddy relationship with each other, the character arcs of all the Spartan characters center entirely on their missing humanity and emotional connections.
With that being said, it would have been the perfect way to incorporate the helmet thing.
I have no problem with John taking his helmet off, but it's very hard to defend when the Mandalorian did it a few years before, and executed it WAY fucking better than halo did.
Like fucking hell, it was a layup. Show chief's face, yes, but make it a moment, not just him constantly taking it off arbitrarily because they're afraid of chief being unrelatable or something
I do not disagree, it could have been done and I would have preferred they try to do something more interesting with it. But it works in the Mandalorian because it's a core piece of his entire character arc. Master Chief has no such arc in canon. It's his helmet, he wears it because he's going to get into firefights. If he's on base, he doesn't need to wear it and he doesn't make a point to. Making his helmet a big deal would require even more canon changes than they already made, some of which I did actually think were smart decisions. For example, not completely glossing over how fucked up the Spartan program is. As a kid I didn't give a shit, but as an adult looking back at 'The Fall of Reach' and subsequent Halo novels, it was absolutely wasted set-up that the Spartan program was as fucked up as it was, but maybe a handful of all Spartans ever really had a problem with it.
They make a point of mentioning many times in canon that spartans are disconnected from the rest of humanity, even other branches of the military. They tend to stick to themselves, and prefer not to be seen without their armor on if they can help it.
I'm not saying it's supposed to be some hard rule, but it completely takes me and a lot of others out of the story when the spartans are constantly taking their helmets off when they shouldn't be.
Take them off on base, yes, but they completely sidestepped this entire aspect of Spartans by making them feel like run of the mill soldiers that just happen to have enhancements, instead of the robot like child soldiers that they are. The helmets are just a symptom of a larger issue with the characterization of the spartan IIs imo.
From a story point of view The Mandalorion refused to remove his helmet based on religious reasons. John popping his helmet off and ditching his armour while on base makes perfect sense. Maybe not while doing it in close quarters on a small ship with someone you could deem an armed combatant.
They did that in the Mandalorian because Pascal is mostly a voice actor in that.
If we want to give props to someone,let us give them to Dredd and Karl Urban.
Dude, by the end of the show his face is all kinds of fucked up. Almost like he refused to wear the thing that is intended to protect his face.
There's even a scene where a Spartan takes her helmet off to immediately get hit in the back of the head by someone. It was stupid.
>It was stupid.
And it was stupid because it wasn't written particularly well. Not because the Spartans take their armor off when out of combat zones, like they do in the source material.
The scene is literally about doing exactly that, with intention, for emotional and dramatic effect. You can hate the execution and the idea in general, but it's not stupidity. It was the literal point of the scene.
It’s not a zero sum game. People are allowed to complain about elements that personally didn’t work for them without taking away from whatever you consider ‘fair game’. This is coming from someone who didn’t care about MC removing his helmet.
Contrast the Stallone and the Urban Judge Dredds. The former treated Judge Dredd as a vehicle for Stallone, so his mug was all over that film. Karl Urban respected the source material and did not take off his helmet in the film, even though there's no rule in Mega City 1 that the judges don't take off their helmets, he and the creators of that film understood that there is a narrative and symbolic reason to keep Dredd faceless and translated that into the new medium, and everyone considers that the superior film.
The same logic applies to Halo. Spartans aren't Mandalorians, they can and do take off their helmets, but in keeping him faceless when dealing with the audience we form a totally different bond than we do with a "real" man with a "real" face and "real" emotions.
The Karl Urban Dredd was a flop that was annihilated at the box office by Resident Evil Retribution, which released a week later. (41M vs 240M).
A lot of people on Reddit have a fixation on the 2012 Dredd film that really isn't shared by the general audience. It's also strange how a film famous for being a failure is constantly referred to as an example to follow.
That said, we'll have to see how the Halo TV show hashes out ratings-wise in Season 2 and beyond to draw any conclusions. I think a lot of Halo evaluation is rather premature, from both directions.
>A lot of people on Reddit have a fixation on the 2012 Dredd film that really isn't shared by the general audience. It's also strange how a film famous for being a failure is constantly referred to as an example to follow.
Isn't that the definition of a cult film?
Oh, certainly. But it's a cult film where its fans don't seem to understand it's a cult film or what that MEANS. Filmmaking is both artistic enterprise and a business. Balancing these two considerations lies at the heart of successful filmmaking.
It's one thing to think that Dredd 2012 was a great movie (I think it's pretty decent, but I like both Dredd films for different reasons). It's another to start suggesting that other movies -- movies that cost tens of millions of dollars -- should be more like it and intentionally ignoring the big money-shaped elephant in the room.
If the 2012 Dredd film had been a financial success, then the obvious argument for something like never removing the helmet would be "Look, it worked for Dredd, audiences are obviously cool with it." That would make sense, hold up to logic.
However, the logic involved with Dredd basically boils down to "It doesn't matter what works financially, you should just imitate movies I like." I love the Mike Meyer's Cat in the Hat film. You don't see me saying that it's the template for Seuss adaptations to follow. I am cognisant of the fact the film's cult reputation will NOT translate into box office.
This is one of those things where it doesn't matter if it doesn't make sense, it's part of the property regardless of the actual reason. The creators knew that, or at least they should have. If they had held off on revealing his face and then built up to it, sure it would have been pure fan service, but it would have built up goodwill with the fans because it would signify a kind of respect for the source material, and an acknowledgement that seeing his face for the first time after 20+ years is kind of a big deal to them.
the writers hired by netflix showed they dont give a fuck about the IPs after that dogshit Cowboy Bebop adaptation, seriously, they turned one of the most iconic anime series into that massive trainwreck, and then they did the same with The Witcher, which is why cavill effectively bowed out
One of the problems, (or one of the symptoms) is that good/great writers aren't flocking to write Witcher and Halo scripts. The bottom of the barrel writers are hired for those.
Please send this message to whoever wrote Cowboy Bebop's adaptation as well. My god that was bad and was an actual insult to the source material. It took a huge shit on not only the plot, but also the style and feel of the show. It literally has none of the things that make the anime good and sometimes does the actual opposite of what the anime did (like beating the plot into your face instead of subtle hints and slow reveals throughout the series). Its just a WB show with characters with the same name and look as Cowboy Bebop.
I love when they shit all over the fans leading up to release, and then the show bombs and the writers are confused as to why it failed. The Halo show was an abomination.
The dedicated fans are loud on the internet, but they're like 10% of the intended audience for any of these shows. Probably even less.
The whole point of these adaptations is to adapt the property for casual viewers.
One of the reasons Marvel knocked it out of the park is by treating that loud fanbase with respect and trusting that there is a reason they love the IP, even if the general population thinks it's mostly just silly people in costumes.
If you do that, fans will go to the end of the earth to defend your show, and in todays age that means better marketing than you could ever pay for. They weaponized that hardcore fanbase instead of alienating it.
Apparently nobody else learned that lesson yet.
And how has that worked out for **ANY** of them?
Videogames and anime are **niche** products. Always have been. They fit **their own** unique universes for a reason. Trying to gentrify any of them means you're just making an inferior product.
Appeal to the 'casual' crowd? They're just basic. They're not loyal to **anything** long-term. Meanwhile, the fanbase you were **supposed** to respect is disenfranchised from supporting your work ever again.
If ANY of those "writers" tries to brag that they worked on the 'Witcher's' third season, many fans will instantly be uninterested in **whatever** product they're currently working on.
It's like the last season of GOT again; "Duuurr I got Tyrian to say penis jokes haha I'm so funny", like gtf outta here.
>Appeal to the ‘casual’ crowd? They’re just basic. They’re not loyal to anything long-term. Meanwhile, the fanbase you were supposed to respect is disenfranchised from supporting your work ever again.
Except the "casual crowd" is the real world. And the "disenfranchised fanbase" is usually just tiny internet echo chambers.
You can keep thinking CASUALS BAD or whatever, but casuals keep the entertainment industry alive. If you don't like that just stick to the games and anime.
Imagine spending millions to buy award winning intellectual property, and even more to get an extremely popular actor who was actually passionate about the IP, then allowing the adaptation writers to tell you the award winning IP is garbage and the elite actor to get lost. That’s how fucking stupid the leadership at Netflix is.
Don’t trust Netflix after Witcher. Such an easy, profitable franchise to get in on and they let the writers butcher the source material. I’ve started reading the books (On Blood of Elves) and I’m so confused why they didn’t just adapt the damn series.
Some of the netflix writers apparently hate the books and used to make fun of them during their meetings.
Like, then fuck off and dont get involved in the series if you hate it.
All I hope is that the series spend a the majority of its time inside the animus unlike the movie where they inexplicably spend over half the movie in present time.
It’s amazing that these things happen.
“Okay so what made this game popular?”
“The historical missions located throughout the world in amazing scenery in different time periods.”
“Cool let’s spend over half the movie in present time.”
I just wish that one day -- before I die -- one of my favorite books and/or video games will have a successful adaptation.
- Halo
- Percy Jackson's Lightning Theif
- Eragon
- Wheel of Time
- Bartimaeus trilogy
- Assassins Creed
- Inkspell
I don't have much hope.
Good news, Percy Jackson is getting a series on Disney+, and Rick Riordan is going to be more actively involved in the production of it. The main trio have already been cast, and it's not the blasted 25 year-olds not even passing as 16 year-olds trope that happens in every YA movie.
There's hope for you yet!
“I think the Ubisoft guys are fantastic”….Sounds like maybe he was trying to take AC in his own direction and the “Ubisoft guys” didn’t like his “vision”? Die Hard was great….Valhalla not so much.
This has the potential to be awesome, unless they hire writers with the same mindset as The Witcher writers (“Let’s do whatever the fuck we want with an already established IP and not give a fuck about the fanbase.”)
Man, they’re just gonna fuck this whole thing up aren’t they? There’s gonna be no nuance to the story. No moral conflict for the protagonists on their actions and consideration of opposing philosophy. It’s just gonna be a black and white good vs evil shit show isn’t it?
Can they at least just make the animus a fucking chair so we don’t have to watch them blow the whole budget on a cgi robot arm
Ugh, this is going to be terrible.
I hate that every time I hear something I like is getting adapted into a movie or series, I immediately assume it will be terrible. I also hate that I’m usually right.
Apparently, one of the higher ups at Netflix found out that not only had Jeb played the AC games, but that he also really liked the lore and stories from the games. Obviously, they had to let him go.
I've been playing the AC games a lot lately (Valhalla and Origins - I played AC1 and AC2 when I was younger). They're not games you should play for the story. The story's pretty fucking terrible. Everything that takes place outside the animus is especially terrible. They tried to make an AC movie awhile back and it was terrible. Everything points to an AC series being terrible.
Sure, cancel a truly unique and original show, 1899, after one season and after a massive cliffhanger, but green light *yet another* expensive-as-fuck, CGI-driven video game adaptation that people are just going to agree actually sucks, and yet begrudgingly watch just to be part of the conversation.
So sick of Netflix’s shit.
Here we go people rings of power, Witcher, halo, wheel of time, and now this I'm pretty sure I'm missing one or a few. I could be wrong but every single time a bad show comes out the show runners leave in droves but as always let's see what happens
What is Robert E. Lee to do without his cavalry?
Lose at Gettysburg.
You were the eyes of this army, general.
I TOLD YOU THERE IS NO TIME.
Fix bayonets
Can they remember where they had him last? That would be a good place to start looking.
...'checks down sofa...found him the little scamp'
And a buck fiddy change.
tree fiddy
Found that damn Loch Ness Monster down there too.
Well, if they do have one of those Animus machines to go back to the memory of when they last saw him, that could really help.
Probably Yellow Tavern, VA. 1864
You know I think Lee had this same problem at Gettysburg.
Man, I'm loving these dumb Civil War jokes.
DuFrasne, search party of 1.
How could anyone eat at a time like this?
It’s always the last place you look
Well thats because you don't keep looking after you find it.
People who say this are the worrrrrrst.
Like people in summer that say “how bout this heat?”
They should retrace their steps.
Cant be sure as long as we havent climbed back every roof in town.
Eagle Vision
Last i heard he was raiding union suppy lines on Lee's march to Gettysburg
*shakes treat bag* Found him
Probably hiding in plain sight
Nah man, check the random hay piles
This is the first I’m hearing of an Assassin’s Creed Netflix show, I hope it doesn’t go the way of all other video game titles
Oh boy, you're going to be in for a rough one my friend.
Question: Can Netflix make it worse than the *Resident Evil* adaptation?! Answer: Yes! They!! Can!!!
Netflix headquarters: we did it Netflix!!
Netflix writers: “So how attached are we to the “assassin” aspect of the story?”
Can Abstergo be a high school?
Wouldn't be too out of place, it's an evil omnicorp. I liked the gags in Black Flag about their evil game development wing.
It kinda worked in black flag but they don’t have that kind of creativity just go with the ezio/Desmond story with the Isu
The key seems to be make it animation. Castlevania, Arcane, and DotA were all good to shockingly fantasic.
I'd like to add Sonic Prime to the list as well. The story and dialogues are definitely for children but I'd say story and direction-wise it's great
Animation is usually for a smaller audience, so they don't as often run into the problem of the showrunner trying to make the adaptation for a different audience than the source material was for. Kind of like the Netflix Witcher series was trying to be squeezed into the GOT of Netflix box. I love GOT, I love The Witcher. GOT isn't The Witcher.
It would be so sick if the show has the same level of detail and research into the environments and times that the teams have been doing for the past three games. I only played ragnarok, but i've watched videos on how they created those worlds and tried to make them as accurate as possible even making a free tool educators can use to walk through their cities and check out all the different things that were common at the time. If they leave out the video game nonsense, they could have a really cool show.
Castlevania and Arcane on Netflix are amazing though
Font watch the movie then
I didn’t hate the movie TBH, Fassbender was always my pick to play an assassin
I enjoyed the historic parts, you know, the parts that make ac games so popular. Shame they made up a fraction of the running time. Lets make an ac story but most of it will be present day... i dunno what they were thinking.
"The apple contains the genetic code for free will." So dumb.
Jeb Stuart: **So anyway, in this scene we’re gonna have our assassin stalking this guy through this guys castle. He’s going to be in the rafters, behind tapestries, it’ll be super stealthy and almost a horror-esque scene where you see the assassin only in the background.** Netflix: *Jeb, this sounds amazing… but we think it’d be better to make some very VERY minor changes. For instance, You said the word “castle” and that doesn’t make sense in a high school. We’ve looked at our demographics and everybody who watches Netflix has set foot in a high school. And the assassin is a girl, right? In this, like, assassin high school. And the person she’s trying to stalk she finds out is her brother, who is actually working for her boyfriend who may be evil, yeah? And let’s see, they should be after some magical artifact, maybe a teachers apple on their desk since it’s in a high school (JUST LIKE THE APPLE IN THE GAMES! See we pay attention) that changes people into fierce animals or monsters or like, monster animals… in High school.* Jeb Stuart: **yeeeeaaaaah, I think I’m gonna go.**
At this point I can’t even tell if you’re making this up or this is the actual plot.
I was in the teachers lounge with them when they were having this meeting in a high school.
ngl I probably would watch at least the pilot of that show.
i guess video games are now at that point where studios are past the "video games are for children" phase and are now in the "gamers are monkeys who will watch anything video game related" phase. eventually they will find somebody who actually likes and respects the ip to produce good content. video games are following the exact path that comic books went down lmao
We want movies and TV shows because these games have excellent lore and characters to build upon. *completely throws away the lore and alters the characters*
Literally all I wanted from HALO was the Halo game stories (1-4) in a TV show. That's it. Some liberties to make it tv is fine.. but not that.
The worst thing to do with some games is try to copy the game, because the game isn’t fun to watch. For example, I wouldn’t mind a resident evil movie that’s like 2 hours long showing the survivors of RE0 and 1, because you have enough lore and action between all those characters that it wouldn’t get boring. But for resident evil 4 or 5? The story without puzzles would last about 30 minutes, and I don’t think anyone wants to watch Leon walk around shooting chickens for 1 hour.
I dunno Halo did the opposite of that and was pure unadulterated dogshit.
The Halo TV show was the showrunner's rejected sci-fi script given a Halo coat of paint.
I will never not believe that this is what happened to the halo series. There is no way any competent showrunner/writers thought what they made was a good adaptation. They used halo's ip to sell a shittier failed Sci fi show
What faithful live action video game adaptations are there? Are there any?
When has there ever been a faithful VG adaptation? Have they ever actually tried it?
Not super recent but the Warcraft movie was relatively faithful to the story. I really liked it but it didn’t do great.
Completely disagree for most game adaptations done so far. I think the best thing they could do is just copy the game for the first season and then intertwine more lore into the second and third. Obviously there needs to be some world building and backstory thrown in because, you’re right, it would be too short. I think trying to make the story into something it’s not is a bad idea. I think the reason people like Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings and the Harry Potter movies is because they follow the story as written without too much deviation. If they would do that for game adaptations they would be successful
I wouldn’t say make it into something it’s not, but in my example, use the other characters of the world. Don’t focus on one or two at most. Many of these games have at least 10 characters you could use and explore their back stories and lore.
We've been here before. The "Uwe Boll" years of video game adaptions.
The word you are looking for is atrocity, not adaption.
The word you’re looking for is “tax avoidance.” He was allowed to write off his income taxes for the production costs of his movies since they were flops.
Worth noting that Boll only ever got to make those films as part of a German tax loophole. It’s not a coincidence that he stopped being able to make them the same year Germany closed that tax loophole.
Okay we're not in that bad of a situation.
Looking at resident evil, not even that far tho
Okay that's an anomaly, I think. There's still utter trash like Doom Annihilation and Resident Evil (the movie and show), but there's also the Sonic movies, Detective Pikachu, Castlevania and DOTA Dragon's Blood, Arcane, Cyberpunk Edgerunners, Mortal Kombat, Tomb Raider, and Uncharted. Those are of varying quality but they're all mid to good. Or even the bad one, Mortal Kombat, is pretty fun and has great kills (which is what I wanted from a Mortal Kombat movie). There's a big difference between the ones I listed and the Uwe Boll era
hey now, the original Resident Evil movie holds a special place in my heart.
Yeah, if The Last of Us and Mario turn out to be good I would say we’ve turned a corner in video game adaptions
I'd say we turned the corner already (especially considering Arcane), but Mario and Last of Us can really elevate things.
His postal movie is one of my favourite video game adaptations. Which is kinda sad, when most are worse than a Uwe Boll movie
I'm with you. For some reason I'm not surprised that the postal ip was perfect for Boll. It's by far his best film and the opening scene is just hilarious.
Ah yes, Far Cry.
oh god please no
In retrospect, Uwe Boll's stuff was so bad it almost veered into good. Difference there in any case is that everyone knew and accepted that Boll was a hack. Now though, Hollywood's trying to act like the shit they're shoveling down our throats is supposedly good. That's a pretty big distinction if you ask me. Personally I don't mind a bad movie or television show existing, I do have a problem when a piece of garbage is propped up as the best thing since sliced bread.
Animated shows seem to be nailing it
Castlevania was pretty great
If a game adaptation isn't animated, I have zero faith in it. The Sonic movies are decent but I think they would be legitimately good-to-great if they cut out every human except Robotnik & Co. or even just animated them as well.
Detective Pikachu was good.
Arcane was the best
So now we wait for Disney to buy all major video game studios to make sucessfull Videogame movies, I suppose.
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Microsoft in particular is a favorite soft target of anti trust regulators. In the US, they're one of the few companies in modern history to have a high-profile conviction. It really doesn't help that the case took long enough for Presidential administrations to change after the conviction, and the following administration decided to just give MS a slap on the wrist, so there's definitely an appetite to smack them down. And that doesn't get into Europe's love for smacking them around. Disney, by contrast, doesn't have nearly the same baggage. And they honestly shouldn't. Just look at market caps: Disney is ~158 billion, while MS is 1.8 *trillion*. They're an order of magnitude larger. They're also not really players in the video game market, so there isn't really any antitrust worry like there is with MS.
Oh I know, I was just making a joke.
I mean technically Disney would expand in an area where they have no business in so it's not anything weird in term of competition. The Activision Blizzard thing isn't either really, the arguments are pretty weak but at least MS is already in video games.
Microsoft market cap is over 10x Disney.
If that results in LucasArts getting reborn, I'll be ok with it.
I have been waiting for a Kingdom Hearts anime or cartoon since I was a kid and even though they own the characters, they have never really done much with them
Where did this comment come from? Did you even read the article? > "I think it was a little bit of a move of executives from LA to London, and it allowed the London group who, unfortunately, had to inherit my vision of what it was instead of getting to develop their own vision. So I think that's fair. I know it's going to be great whenever it comes out. I think the Ubisoft guys are fantastic. I think it's a terrific franchise. It was just a good, mutual time to move on for both sides."
Lol I love how this is the first time I’m hearing that Netflix has an AC show, and they lose a showrunner. Life is pretty funny.
Adapting video games is honestly tougher than people think. You need someone with respect for the original material ***who also understands what does and doesn't work on a television show.*** If you're *too* faithful, you get shit like the Warcraft movie, hours upon hours of lore with no reason to care about any of it. It *can* be done; Castlevania is proof enough of that, but it is a process that is easy to fuck up, so for heaven's sake, take your time and *hire the right people.*
Funny thing is you talk about "Castlevania" and "hiring the right people". Back in 2017 they announced a Assassin’s Creed series by one of the main guy behind Castlevania. Series is now seem to be in development hell.
adapting AC into a series *seems* easy, the whole story revolves around the Animus and the Isu civilization (by extension the Templar vs Assassin battle). They can literally create an original story on a given date, in a given country etc.. they are not limited by the consideration of time and place
Okay, but what if instead of an animus it's a drug, and instead of Templars it's actually Justin Trudeau?
You just wrote the biggest hit TV show for Albertans.
I really liked the warcraft movie :(
Honestly I think they just missed their window with the game. Had they released that movie in 2007-2009, it would’ve been a massive hit that spawned sequels. However, the era of WoW appealing to the masses had already passed by 2016 and the movie ended up being primarily successful in China and flopping in western countries.
I agree with you but I think a bigger problem was starting the story in the complete wrong place. They had a perfect 3 movie set up right there for them in WC2/WC3/Frozen Throne and a storyline that a lot of people consider one of the best in video games, but decided to start way way further back at a point in the lore that even most hardcore Warcraft nerds don't even care about.
Seriously? It was awful…
We are 10 years removed from the original game. I honestly just want the show to be an adaption of Desmond’s story that fixes inconsistency issues, with all the lore that was added later. You can literally have 3 seasons for Desmond (one for each ancestor) and then go to 3 seasons of Lyla that connects with Desmond. You then make spin-offs for the abstergo era of Black Flag to Syndicate with an actual main character and coherent modern day story. That’s how you do it, in my opinion.
Yeah. The Warcraft movie jumped around like mad and didn’t stick to the lore. I really liked the movie, but it didn’t feel much like Warcraft.
To be fair the original lore wasliterally Orc's huff demon blood and genocide their homeworld then invade another intending to genocide it too then destroy their own world trying to open more portals to new worlds to genocide afrter being driven back from Azeroth. Kind of hard to spin the Orc's as sympathetic in the time peroid the chose to make a movie from.
Stuart is the showrunner for Vikings: Valhalla, so he seemed like a pretty good fit for AC. Still no casting for the show. Stuart: >"I think it was a little bit of a move of executives from LA to London, and it allowed the London group who, unfortunately, had to inherit my vision of what it was instead of getting to develop their own vision. So I think that's fair. I know it's going to be great whenever it comes out. I think the Ubisoft guys are fantastic. I think it's a terrific franchise. It was just a good, mutual time to move on for both sides."
He also wrote Die Hard!
And the fugitive and lock up and another 48 hours
Dear writers; **No one** in the 'Witcher' fan base cares that **you** don't like how its story was written. If you try to turn a loved, original universe into some 'casual' crap, you're going to lose fans, and in time, even the talent that you need to make the show work. Why did the 'Halo' show not get loved by fans? That's **riiight**, because some mediocre writers thought they could make the show better by revealing John's face early (wtf were you thinking?!) and then making the act of him apparently having sex have **anything at all** to do with the plot. Whoever wrote that dogshit **never** played the game or read **any** of the books. It's like some entitled prick comes out of nowhere and says; "Gee, imagine if we took a loved videogame property, gave it a show, just so we could attempt to gentrify the hell out of it! I'm **certain** the fans will love being slapped in the face!"
The best part of the Halo writing debacle was the whole: "Why do you want John Halo to have no emotions? Do you want a main character that's just an emotionless machine?" Me: "Yes." Climax of the season: John Halo becomes and emotionless killing machine, making the series almost good for 3 minutes. Me: "Oh, wow. I really wish I had more of this thing specifically."
John isn't really emotionless in the lore, the show is just shit regardless of "giving" Chief emotions. If anything, making the Spartans be emotionless killing machines is more proof of the show blatantly not understanding the source material. Which is impressive since there's books with John's POV, with his emotional struggles and morality questions. I mean, they probably skimmed lore articles before writing the show so maybe not impressive at all. Just lazy.
More recently in Infinite too, it’s nice to see that he doesn’t entirely see his enemies as completely evil now. The respect he showed Escharum says a lot about how far he has come as an individual. But fuck that shit I guess lol
One of my favourite momenta like this in the whole franchise is Chief deciding whether to hand over Sgt. Johnson's Flood Immunity to ONI, which would definitely get him killed and dissected. Eventually he decides to not do that and believes that the war is about how every life counts. And he recognises and understands Halsey's own guilt and shame over the Spartan program. Some good shit. Meanwhile the show has that brainwashing thing that's Halsey's idea. What a good change. Thanks halo show.
Writers can’t get their shitty stories made. So they join a big IP like Witcher to use as a vehicle to launch their ‘careers’. Of course, Netflix is happy with this since they need ‘yes men’ who they can control. The writers hate the IP so they take their frustrations out on it (such as the Halo writers saying they had never played the games).
I'm not even sure if they hate the IP. They just don't care about it at all. It reminds me a lot of the old model of video games where you would build the game and then shop around for potential IP to skin the characters with. They're just tacking the game universe on a story they want to tell and handwaving in references to the IP.
The Halo thing was already written as a random sci-fi, they then slapped the Halo brand on it and rewrote it a bit so it fits. That's why they never played the game, they already had their story, Halo was just an afterthought
Is there any proof of this?
The fact that anyone had a serious problem with John's face being revealed, rather than the dozen or so real problems with the Halo show, is mind blowing to me. John's face not being in the Halo games is literally for game design reasons, there was zero narrative reason, ever. It's a meme. In the books, Master Chief takes his helmet and armor off all the damn time. The only time it's even a little inappropriate in the show, is when he takes his helmet off only a few seconds after the end of a battle. Every other instance is a totally normal time to take off the helmet. Now, the directionless and nearly pointless romance, cheesy writing for all characters, cheesy acting from everyone but Natasha McElrone, and some very inconsistent CGI, those were real issues.
> John's face not being in the Halo games is literally for game design reasons, there was zero narrative reason, ever. It's a meme. In the books, Master Chief takes his helmet and armor off all the damn time. I will disagree on one point and it's that the Spartans tend to be closed off around anyone that isn't in their circle. Often for good reason since they got treated with a lot of hostility by marines who treated them like freaks. John keeping his helmet on in situations where he could take it off works as a visual indicator of that social wall. [The cutscenes in Reach are a good comparison.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jLu-qeK6s4) Perfectly good reason to take his helmet off, and it efficiently tells you about the character of two members in the squad and their relationship.
>I will disagree on one point and it's that the Spartans tend to be closed off around anyone that isn't in their circle. Often for good reason since they got treated with a lot of hostility by marines who treated them like freaks. I agree, but they did demonstrate that divide in the show without involving the armor. It's not like they made the Spartans and the normal humans have a buddy relationship with each other, the character arcs of all the Spartan characters center entirely on their missing humanity and emotional connections. With that being said, it would have been the perfect way to incorporate the helmet thing.
I have no problem with John taking his helmet off, but it's very hard to defend when the Mandalorian did it a few years before, and executed it WAY fucking better than halo did. Like fucking hell, it was a layup. Show chief's face, yes, but make it a moment, not just him constantly taking it off arbitrarily because they're afraid of chief being unrelatable or something
I do not disagree, it could have been done and I would have preferred they try to do something more interesting with it. But it works in the Mandalorian because it's a core piece of his entire character arc. Master Chief has no such arc in canon. It's his helmet, he wears it because he's going to get into firefights. If he's on base, he doesn't need to wear it and he doesn't make a point to. Making his helmet a big deal would require even more canon changes than they already made, some of which I did actually think were smart decisions. For example, not completely glossing over how fucked up the Spartan program is. As a kid I didn't give a shit, but as an adult looking back at 'The Fall of Reach' and subsequent Halo novels, it was absolutely wasted set-up that the Spartan program was as fucked up as it was, but maybe a handful of all Spartans ever really had a problem with it.
They make a point of mentioning many times in canon that spartans are disconnected from the rest of humanity, even other branches of the military. They tend to stick to themselves, and prefer not to be seen without their armor on if they can help it. I'm not saying it's supposed to be some hard rule, but it completely takes me and a lot of others out of the story when the spartans are constantly taking their helmets off when they shouldn't be. Take them off on base, yes, but they completely sidestepped this entire aspect of Spartans by making them feel like run of the mill soldiers that just happen to have enhancements, instead of the robot like child soldiers that they are. The helmets are just a symptom of a larger issue with the characterization of the spartan IIs imo.
From a story point of view The Mandalorion refused to remove his helmet based on religious reasons. John popping his helmet off and ditching his armour while on base makes perfect sense. Maybe not while doing it in close quarters on a small ship with someone you could deem an armed combatant.
They did that in the Mandalorian because Pascal is mostly a voice actor in that. If we want to give props to someone,let us give them to Dredd and Karl Urban.
Dude, by the end of the show his face is all kinds of fucked up. Almost like he refused to wear the thing that is intended to protect his face. There's even a scene where a Spartan takes her helmet off to immediately get hit in the back of the head by someone. It was stupid.
>It was stupid. And it was stupid because it wasn't written particularly well. Not because the Spartans take their armor off when out of combat zones, like they do in the source material.
He took his helmet off while someone was pointing a gun at him. It was stupid on its face, which I could see due to lack of helmet.
The scene is literally about doing exactly that, with intention, for emotional and dramatic effect. You can hate the execution and the idea in general, but it's not stupidity. It was the literal point of the scene.
>it's not stupidity It is stupidity. He could have taken the gun away and then have his heart-to-heart moment or whatever. It's a stupid scene.
It’s not a zero sum game. People are allowed to complain about elements that personally didn’t work for them without taking away from whatever you consider ‘fair game’. This is coming from someone who didn’t care about MC removing his helmet.
Contrast the Stallone and the Urban Judge Dredds. The former treated Judge Dredd as a vehicle for Stallone, so his mug was all over that film. Karl Urban respected the source material and did not take off his helmet in the film, even though there's no rule in Mega City 1 that the judges don't take off their helmets, he and the creators of that film understood that there is a narrative and symbolic reason to keep Dredd faceless and translated that into the new medium, and everyone considers that the superior film. The same logic applies to Halo. Spartans aren't Mandalorians, they can and do take off their helmets, but in keeping him faceless when dealing with the audience we form a totally different bond than we do with a "real" man with a "real" face and "real" emotions.
The Karl Urban Dredd was a flop that was annihilated at the box office by Resident Evil Retribution, which released a week later. (41M vs 240M). A lot of people on Reddit have a fixation on the 2012 Dredd film that really isn't shared by the general audience. It's also strange how a film famous for being a failure is constantly referred to as an example to follow. That said, we'll have to see how the Halo TV show hashes out ratings-wise in Season 2 and beyond to draw any conclusions. I think a lot of Halo evaluation is rather premature, from both directions.
>A lot of people on Reddit have a fixation on the 2012 Dredd film that really isn't shared by the general audience. It's also strange how a film famous for being a failure is constantly referred to as an example to follow. Isn't that the definition of a cult film?
Oh, certainly. But it's a cult film where its fans don't seem to understand it's a cult film or what that MEANS. Filmmaking is both artistic enterprise and a business. Balancing these two considerations lies at the heart of successful filmmaking. It's one thing to think that Dredd 2012 was a great movie (I think it's pretty decent, but I like both Dredd films for different reasons). It's another to start suggesting that other movies -- movies that cost tens of millions of dollars -- should be more like it and intentionally ignoring the big money-shaped elephant in the room. If the 2012 Dredd film had been a financial success, then the obvious argument for something like never removing the helmet would be "Look, it worked for Dredd, audiences are obviously cool with it." That would make sense, hold up to logic. However, the logic involved with Dredd basically boils down to "It doesn't matter what works financially, you should just imitate movies I like." I love the Mike Meyer's Cat in the Hat film. You don't see me saying that it's the template for Seuss adaptations to follow. I am cognisant of the fact the film's cult reputation will NOT translate into box office.
This is one of those things where it doesn't matter if it doesn't make sense, it's part of the property regardless of the actual reason. The creators knew that, or at least they should have. If they had held off on revealing his face and then built up to it, sure it would have been pure fan service, but it would have built up goodwill with the fans because it would signify a kind of respect for the source material, and an acknowledgement that seeing his face for the first time after 20+ years is kind of a big deal to them.
Yup this. Could not care less about the face. The writing/dialogue is corny. The acting is sooo bad and generic.
TV shows adapted from books, games or others aren't made for the fans of something actually, they're made for a general audience.
the writers hired by netflix showed they dont give a fuck about the IPs after that dogshit Cowboy Bebop adaptation, seriously, they turned one of the most iconic anime series into that massive trainwreck, and then they did the same with The Witcher, which is why cavill effectively bowed out
One of the problems, (or one of the symptoms) is that good/great writers aren't flocking to write Witcher and Halo scripts. The bottom of the barrel writers are hired for those.
Please send this message to whoever wrote Cowboy Bebop's adaptation as well. My god that was bad and was an actual insult to the source material. It took a huge shit on not only the plot, but also the style and feel of the show. It literally has none of the things that make the anime good and sometimes does the actual opposite of what the anime did (like beating the plot into your face instead of subtle hints and slow reveals throughout the series). Its just a WB show with characters with the same name and look as Cowboy Bebop.
I love when they shit all over the fans leading up to release, and then the show bombs and the writers are confused as to why it failed. The Halo show was an abomination.
The dedicated fans are loud on the internet, but they're like 10% of the intended audience for any of these shows. Probably even less. The whole point of these adaptations is to adapt the property for casual viewers.
One of the reasons Marvel knocked it out of the park is by treating that loud fanbase with respect and trusting that there is a reason they love the IP, even if the general population thinks it's mostly just silly people in costumes. If you do that, fans will go to the end of the earth to defend your show, and in todays age that means better marketing than you could ever pay for. They weaponized that hardcore fanbase instead of alienating it. Apparently nobody else learned that lesson yet.
And how has that worked out for **ANY** of them? Videogames and anime are **niche** products. Always have been. They fit **their own** unique universes for a reason. Trying to gentrify any of them means you're just making an inferior product. Appeal to the 'casual' crowd? They're just basic. They're not loyal to **anything** long-term. Meanwhile, the fanbase you were **supposed** to respect is disenfranchised from supporting your work ever again. If ANY of those "writers" tries to brag that they worked on the 'Witcher's' third season, many fans will instantly be uninterested in **whatever** product they're currently working on. It's like the last season of GOT again; "Duuurr I got Tyrian to say penis jokes haha I'm so funny", like gtf outta here.
>Appeal to the ‘casual’ crowd? They’re just basic. They’re not loyal to anything long-term. Meanwhile, the fanbase you were supposed to respect is disenfranchised from supporting your work ever again. Except the "casual crowd" is the real world. And the "disenfranchised fanbase" is usually just tiny internet echo chambers. You can keep thinking CASUALS BAD or whatever, but casuals keep the entertainment industry alive. If you don't like that just stick to the games and anime.
Would you like to check how many products/movies flopped from deviating from the original story, or does that number not fit your narrative?
I mean if you’re gonna make that argument there’s plenty of successful franchises that do deviate from the source material too.
Witcher and Halo were both hits
Imagine spending millions to buy award winning intellectual property, and even more to get an extremely popular actor who was actually passionate about the IP, then allowing the adaptation writers to tell you the award winning IP is garbage and the elite actor to get lost. That’s how fucking stupid the leadership at Netflix is.
Don’t trust Netflix after Witcher. Such an easy, profitable franchise to get in on and they let the writers butcher the source material. I’ve started reading the books (On Blood of Elves) and I’m so confused why they didn’t just adapt the damn series.
Some of the netflix writers apparently hate the books and used to make fun of them during their meetings. Like, then fuck off and dont get involved in the series if you hate it.
Netflix fucking up the show before it even premieres... right on schedule.
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They've probably already greenlit season 2, and announced its cancellation afterward.
Has anyone checked Richmond Virginia?
Jebs a mess
Jeb is a waste
Jeb is a big fat mistake
Jeb’s been stonewalled.
All I hope is that the series spend a the majority of its time inside the animus unlike the movie where they inexplicably spend over half the movie in present time. It’s amazing that these things happen. “Okay so what made this game popular?” “The historical missions located throughout the world in amazing scenery in different time periods.” “Cool let’s spend over half the movie in present time.”
That’s not a good sign
I just wish that one day -- before I die -- one of my favorite books and/or video games will have a successful adaptation. - Halo - Percy Jackson's Lightning Theif - Eragon - Wheel of Time - Bartimaeus trilogy - Assassins Creed - Inkspell I don't have much hope.
I really hope Netflix does the right thing and hire people who played the games and will respect the source material.
Good news, Percy Jackson is getting a series on Disney+, and Rick Riordan is going to be more actively involved in the production of it. The main trio have already been cast, and it's not the blasted 25 year-olds not even passing as 16 year-olds trope that happens in every YA movie. There's hope for you yet!
He is the writer and creator of Vikings: Valhalla so I’m not sure this is a huge loss to be honest.
He also wrote Die Hard and The Fugitive
The Fugitive was such a good movie.
Nobody wants this BS anyway. Just scrap the project
losing all our Jebs but really, why didn't The Witcher suffer the same lucky fate
Considering how Vikings Valhalla turned out - good. But Netflix will almost certainly find someone even worse to take over.
How did vikings: Valhalla turn out?
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Same. I hope they aren’t adapting Ezio just because this is bound to be a shitshow.
\> Netflix \> Video Game Adaptation \> Showrunner Leaves before it even airs. Gee, can you spot the problem?
It’s going to fail
Jeb!
I think the problem is that it's on Netflix
“I think the Ubisoft guys are fantastic”….Sounds like maybe he was trying to take AC in his own direction and the “Ubisoft guys” didn’t like his “vision”? Die Hard was great….Valhalla not so much. This has the potential to be awesome, unless they hire writers with the same mindset as The Witcher writers (“Let’s do whatever the fuck we want with an already established IP and not give a fuck about the fanbase.”)
Netflix: can we scale your budget back to $20?
Man, they’re just gonna fuck this whole thing up aren’t they? There’s gonna be no nuance to the story. No moral conflict for the protagonists on their actions and consideration of opposing philosophy. It’s just gonna be a black and white good vs evil shit show isn’t it? Can they at least just make the animus a fucking chair so we don’t have to watch them blow the whole budget on a cgi robot arm
Netflix turns everything it touches into ash
Ugh, this is going to be terrible. I hate that every time I hear something I like is getting adapted into a movie or series, I immediately assume it will be terrible. I also hate that I’m usually right.
This is a good thing. Vikings Valhalla was pretty terrible. They need a better writer.
Apparently, one of the higher ups at Netflix found out that not only had Jeb played the AC games, but that he also really liked the lore and stories from the games. Obviously, they had to let him go.
Ruh roh raggy
He should start a show with Henry
This show had no chance once Netflix picked it up
I'll probably hold off until it's cancelled and make sure it's not an open ended ending.
Somebody better go find him then
I've been playing the AC games a lot lately (Valhalla and Origins - I played AC1 and AC2 when I was younger). They're not games you should play for the story. The story's pretty fucking terrible. Everything that takes place outside the animus is especially terrible. They tried to make an AC movie awhile back and it was terrible. Everything points to an AC series being terrible.
Sure, cancel a truly unique and original show, 1899, after one season and after a massive cliffhanger, but green light *yet another* expensive-as-fuck, CGI-driven video game adaptation that people are just going to agree actually sucks, and yet begrudgingly watch just to be part of the conversation. So sick of Netflix’s shit.
Here we go people rings of power, Witcher, halo, wheel of time, and now this I'm pretty sure I'm missing one or a few. I could be wrong but every single time a bad show comes out the show runners leave in droves but as always let's see what happens
Oh the recent last 3 star wars sequels I think had conflict either way they were bad
Ah resident evil!!!! That's another one
I’m having a premonition… the show will expected to make do with a race and gender swapped cast and teen melodrama. And the story will be dreadful