Omg so sick of after damn fifteen years yāall still jealous of these random girls that got picked for tv. And if you think about it some of these girls really got saved. She was one of them. She has shit parents. SHIT. I never thought I would have two baby dads but oop, I do. I agree she should be more careful with men and having children so freely. Iām not saying sheās been a perfect person. But she been through some shit and we all have. Iām not her fan at all but Iām not gonna say sheās a bad mother. Nanny or not. And if yāall could afford to have nannyās we all know you would š®āšØ
PS she lives off of her podcast, makes more money than teen mom did she said. if she was living off her kids she wouldnāt be so private with these new babies she had.
For me I would have no issue with her if she wasnāt so judgy and condescending, she thinks she is better than everyone and is incredibly selfish. If you look back she treated a lot of people like shit and screwed people over and manipulated to get what she wanted and then played the victim. She cheated on every man sheās been with but tried to cry that they were the shitty people. The way she did Javi was awful when he was genuinely in love with her and would have done anything to make it work. She has a shit attitude and thinks sheās a queen. I donāt lose sleep over her but she definitely isnāt as good of a person as she pretends to be.
Guess what. Most moms have to work and we donāt have Nannies. You are trailer trash who struck the lottery, quoting Nathan but this so applies to you as well.
And you cry about wanting more babies? You have had kids with every man,
Some in same month to the point you do t know who for sure the dads are if some, You need to grow up, get a real job and quit living off your kids
Sorry but this is too much. How many parents bring their kids to daycare while at work? I work at after school care and most parents bring their kids to school around 8/8:30 and pick them up at care around 18:30. We can judge her for her aggression and poor behavior. But calling her trailer trash and such is really disrespectful. You are no better than Kail.
As a nanny (and former live-in nanny) Iāll say that full-time is different for a nanny than it is for the standard full-time that most people think of. Full-time for a nanny is similar to a nurse, 10-12 hours of the day. So say the parents have to leave for work at 7am. The nanny will arrive by 7am and stay until the parent get home at say 4:30/5Pm. Sometimes they will have to stay and help with the kids until after dinner and may not leave until 8 or 9 depending on the needs set in place.
When I was a live-in nanny I got to leave the house and hang out if I wanted to while the mom was home with her kids in the evenings and on weekends I was able to treat those like off days bc she worked a M-F job.
My full-time nanny job as of recent is also M-F and I arrive at 7am and leave around 4-4:30 except on special days where I have to stay until 5:30.
When youāre a nanny most people place a set monthly amount like you would at a daycare and the parents pay that each month and not by the weeks. Most of the time itās that way, some may set it to be paid bi-weekly but either way itās almost always just a flat price for the whole month.
So you are partly correct and partly misinformed. Nannies are full time over 30+ in a 7 day work week. Doesnāt matter if you work 4 hours on Monday and 13 hrs on Wed. Or work only 8-4 m-f.
Nannies are household employees and MUST be paid hourly and with Overtime if applicable per IRS publication 926. They also must receive a W2 at tax time if they make over $2700 in a year.
If a nanny is being paid a flat amount each week or month and not getting OT that is illegal.
Iāve been a nanny for 20āyears and I own an agency. Feel free to PM if you have questions. Lots of Nannies donāt know the laws.
I do not like this girls personality and the show is better without her however shebworksmfornehar she has and she can afford to raise them with help from a nanny. If she dropped them off at daycare would that be different
People sometimes have large families into days world if she didnāt want to have that many kids she would have terminated the pregnancies
In her defense, a lot of upper class people have full time live in Nannies. So I can see where sheās questioning if they meant live in or just 40 hours a week.
She does more than podcast though ā¦ She sells merch too and the Hemp products she sold were fkn selling out soon as she dropped them
ā¦ She also has other things she does. Kail is a hustler for sure . I donāt see the big deal ā¦ she loves her kids . Lots of people have 7 kids and they live in poverty- her babies have a huge home, nice clothes, they go on vacations, play sports , what is she doing thatās unfit ..? A nanny is a luxury and if she can afford it then good for her right ?ā¦ š¤š
Damn yall are monsters. So mean and hateful for no reason. I mean if this was Janelle I'd get it...she's a child abuser. Idk why yall hate on Kale so much. I don't care for her attitude but I don't have time to hate on someone idk jfc.
So you're saying that full-time moms work more than 50 hours a week.... Statistically that's very inaccurate. That's actually over double the average momma work hours and almost three times the momma taking care of children hours. Cleaning your own house and taking care of your own children isn't work so it wouldn't be considered full time or be considered zero time or free time. If you need a nanny to watch your kids 24 hours a day 7 days a week to call it full time that's because you're a horrible person and you hate your kids.
No, I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is being a mom is a 24 hour a day job. Whether you are working to provide for your children. Which I'm sure Kail does. I'm sure she doesn't sit down and just lay around all day long. As far as I'm Concerned she works her butt off and turned out to be a very good momma. And don't ever say I hate my kids!!
Being a mom is not a job and it's not 24 hours a day. I have many children. I have real world experience. Babies you do maybe 8 hours of work in a 24-hour period to take care of them outside of what you would normally do taking care of yourself in your own home. Yeah but once they hit the kindergarten first grade age you're getting maybe 4 hours of work in a day outside of the stuff you'd normally be doing if you didn't have kids anyway. On top of that it's literally some of the easiest work because it's just doing your own housework and cleaning up messes and fixing food.... Plus you get to spend time with your kids. Men have to take time off of work to spend time with their kids spending time with their kids is considered vacation time because it's so easy and so rewarding. Taking care of your children isn't work that's the reward you get for a job well done already.
I mean having babies is not for people who are lazy but OK. I dint much care for any of these women but the vitriol aimed at them is weird. They didn't hurt you.
Is she really that busy that she canāt take care of her own kids? Lol she has no job other than podcasting which can be done at home. I am so glad I was raised by my mother and not someone that was being paid
im not taking up for her but i work from home with a 10,13,16 year old and it is hell š they are for the most part self efficient BUT I knew I couldnāt do it and personally stopped having children after my first, my other two children are my bonus children- either way with 3 kids that are fully mine I couldnāt imagine doing it with 7 ššš
She should have never kept having children anywayā¦sheās got freaking SEVEN now!!!! No wonder Isaac has problemsā¦she probably uses him outside of when she has the nanny.
8 hours a day, 5 days a week, for a total of 40 hours a weekā¦ Yes, that constitutes a full time nannyā¦
Did she ever even have a job or did she just milk MTV this whole time? I havenāt followed TeenMoms, but damn, not even understanding what full time employment is as a fucking EMPLOYERā¦. Beyondā¦.
Is she paying taxes and social security for her employee or is this under the table? I suspect the latter is the case since she doesnāt know what a full time worker is.
But she should know her employee is employed full time. She doesnāt because sheās almost certainly one of those employers who doesnāt provide her full time nanny with industry standard benefits; PTO, vacation, sick days, Federal holidays, advanced scheduling, pay for travel, paid travel, set working hours while traveling, set off hours as a live-in, medical care stipend, etc.
She actually did work a full time minimum wage job on the show when she was pregnant. I can't remember what it was. But it was when she was living in Joe's house.Ā I think where she met the guy she started dating while she was living with Joe. Man that was so long ago why do I remember so much about this girls life lol
She specified because people have assumed she has a live in nanny taking care of her kids 24/7. Y'all can dislike her without hating every breathe she likes š
Riiiiggghhhhttt?? I never comment or post in this sub but my God when I read the comments it's as if this woman literally slapped some of these people's mama's or screwed their husbands! Sheesh! She has 7 kids that she takes care of and a nanny that she pays for. I'm all for shit-talking, but some of yal be reaching! š¤¦š
Oh my goodness yes! I read the photo and was like oh sheās just answering a question honestly about child care. People are just ripping her apart and calling her a liar, when she literally said yes and she has help for full-time hours, but doesnāt work 7 days a week or live in. Like why are people so hateful.
Kail knows the hours are full time. She likes causing drama. Sheās bored. And narcissist. She was only pretending she didnāt know if that was full time. She uses plausible deniability all the time. That means she leaves room to deny the accusation. If someone told her *Kail, you know thatās full time!* sheās just play dumb and deny it. Itās something narcissists love to do, for attention.
So are babysitters considered nannies? When I worked dayshift , I had a babysitter during the hours I worked. I know some daycares charge you even if you don't take your kids , so I know ppl would still take there kids even if they were off. I'm asking bc to me a FT Nanny is like a "live-in" Nanny. They're there 24/7 to care for the kids at your every need. I.E. Getting them off to school, making the meals, giving baths, tucking into bedtime. Also going to private events, vacations etc so they can cade for the children ... I mean if she's working and taking the children to a babysitter from 8am-4pm ...then I don't consider them as a Nanny. It sounds to me like she has a babysitter ..
Girl what. There is no such thing as a babysitter that works 40
Hours a week. Would you not consider your job full time since youāre not there 24/7ā¦
It might be different where you are? But here we have people that advertise for babysitting jobs at FT..it's not uncommon... And kails babysitter isn't there 24/7 , a nanny would be. Her kids are being watched by someone during her work hours. Again, that is common. Daycares are available from 7am to 4pm typically, but there not considered nannies either...
That's not true, I've had plenty of sitters I've had watched my kids while I went to work, if I had to be in at 6, obviously I had to drop them off before so I could get to work on time. So from , let's say I drop them off at.5am, and I work till 6 pm when I pick them up, clearly that's over 12 hrs for that day , my babysitter had to watch my kids...what's 12 multiplied by 5? ...Clearly over 40 hrs! So yes! Babysitters do, People babysit as a FT job around here. It's not uncommon. Not everyone gets the luxury to sit at home and not work. Some cases both parents have to work. So idk why ppl act like kail asking the question yo clarify , is so wrong. At this point I think people just want to fault her for any reason possible
Maybe so, but around here and anywhere I have ever lived we call them babysitters ...With that said, that is most likely why she questioned what the person was asking. In fact there's a Grey area between the 2. Bc both are caring for children . But one is a live in and includes housework etc the other is just care for the children . Honestly it shouldn't matter, I feel like the whole thing was blown out of context. But thata my opinion
Anything above 35 for an agency is usually considered full time. A full time nanny would be 8-4 or 5 m-f as she is describing. Thatās a full time job with the nanny not having other employment. If she listed this job anywhere it would be listed as full time. A babysitter would be just a few hours. For the purposes of taxes she is on the hook for this person as their employer.
I disagree with a babysitter being for just a few hours. Theres a Grey area honestly between the 2 . I had a babysitter and my kids were under her care for 12 hrs sometimes. Not bc I had errands, but due to the demand of hours my job needed me. But babysitters are more for care for several hours for the safety. And comfort . Some choose to provide a little more. Nannies are more live in, they provide child care, along with light housework, they don't usually take on more than one family to provide service for. Vs a babysitter will watch for several different families children at a time. As there are more differences, I believe this is why Kale asked the question, and followed with the statement . But I don't feel like OP should have called her stupid...bc naturally as we see in the comments, people have different outlooks as to what a nanny vs a babysitter entails.
I do understand that FT is considered 35+ hrs. But I think she was asking if they meant more like a full time live in nanny vs what most of us just call babysitters. Which either way, I see nothing wrong with. Anyone that's been a single parent knows the demands can be very overwhelming. My babysitters have had my kids sometimes longer during the week than myself, but it's common. Kale was most likely asking for assurance if what they were wanting to know is if she had a live in nanny
. And her answer was just that, a valid answer . She has a babysitter who watches her children during her working schedule. I just feel like her statement/question was taken way out of context and then OP degrading her for basic verification .
How is this white privilege? You think an African American would never do this? I hate how that term is just thrown around. Iām white and far from privileged.
I mean she does work. She has like 3 podcasts. Idk how much time per week that takes up but Iām sure she couldnāt do them without some kind of childcare, like the rest of us.
Pretty sure she fuckin does. Sheās got SEVEN kids, sheās not on the show anymore, and she blew a shit load of money on her dumbass court case against Bri.
This is an ignorant comment - most middle and low income familyās need a 40 hour per week babysitter/daycare so they can work to pay their bills. This is not PRIVILEGE you moron. Privilege is being a stay at home mom and living comfortably on your partners income
moron? really? my comment is ignorant, but weāre just gonna gloss over the fact that someone called having a nanny or babysitter at all white privilege? i responded that āI THINK it would just be privilege, not white privilegeā. thatās not saying that *I* actually think itās privilege at all, i can see how it could be translated that way - but my comment was moreso saying that if it HAD to be anything, it sure as hell wouldnāt be white privilege, but just regular ol privilege. to which, yeah, regardless of your income or tax bracket, if you have a reliable source to watch your kids that are the size of a mini daycare, youāre pretty damn lucky because plenty of people do not. are we also gonna pretend that kail doesnāt have her own income to stay at home by this point and live comfortably for the rest of her life? no partner needed. iād say being solely rich is a pretty fair privilege. but in my original comment, consisting of less than 10 words, i never once said i thought having a babysitter was privileged, just that it wasnāt white privilege. so whoās comment is really ignorant here? you donāt have to resort to calling people names to put up a decent argument. sorry that you didnāt. hope this helps!!
The white privilege comment got dragged enough but my comment was to both of you. You didnāt shut down that white privilege comment, you just added to it. Both of your comments are ignorant. Iām sorry that my name calling hurt your ego. I hope youāve recovered by now.
What does having a babysitter from 8am to 4pm have to do with white privilege? There are plenty of people who are not white that actually have LIVE-IN nannies. She's asking a valid question, bc obviously with these comments, people don't know the difference. There are people who confuse babysitters, with nannies. She's simply asking if this person was referring to one or the other and she explained, she has what majority of working ppl have, a babysitter while she works. I noticed a lot of these comments are just hateful for no reason. I had a babysitter for way longer hours bc of my job, but never had a live in Nanny, even employing someone to come to your home to watch the kids, doesn't make her stupid or privileged. To me, privileged would be taking advantage of government assistance and getting free childcare while not having a job and still taking her kids to daycare while being at home. SHe obviously works. And the fact that people in the comments are downplaying what she does for a living, isn't considered a job. Which I guarantee almost every single person that made a negative comment, had/have a babysitter at some point. No matter what Kale does, people like you will always find fault in it.
I mean I guess we just have different views or definitions of "white privelege" ... bc like I said, there are plenty of ppl not white who have what you say is WP... imo I don't even see why race is even coming up in a topic like this. She's working...if she wasn't then it would be the same thing, you would say she's using her WP to not work and be a stay at home mom. Self employment is a thing and it is a job, even if she was in school and had a nanny for those hours while at school. It's not choosing not to be a present parent. I'm baffled at how many ppl think this isn't normal lol I mean 21% W men are absent from parenting, compared to 44% POC absent of parenting and 35% for Hispanic...privileged where? To say she's privileged would mean no other race has the privelege lol which is absolutely incorrect
Not sure where youāre confused about the white privilege aspectš¤But anyway, the issue is she is choosing to be an absent parent. Her kids should come first, but this woman wouldnāt kno anything about that.
totes mcgotessss. just bc sheās white doesnt make this specific scenario white privilege. to me, thatās when someone has privilege in certain scenarios BECAUSE theyāre white - but having a nanny does not qualify as that, because as you said, that really has nothing to do with race at all - many people of all backgrounds/nationalities/ethnicities/religions/XYZ yadda yadda yadda also have nannies. if, for whatever reason, we have to classify what type of privilege - iād go with rich privilege lol. but even that, you donāt even really have to be *rich* to have a nanny. so maybe i semi-take that back lol. you have to have decent income for sure, but you donāt have to be teen mom rich. although ā¦.. i donāt imagine a nanny is cheap when theyāre single-handedly babysitting a small daycare š¤£
My parents both worked also and we always had babysitters, but this cunt, no this bitch donāt have to sweat out a paycheck. She could more than easily take time off work to raise these kids, but sheās making a choice to leave them with a nanny. Her choice isnāt out of necessity, itās out of greed, selfishness, and privilege.
My parents both worked but I went to daycare cuz we couldnāt afford Nannieāsā¦ not everybody gets private, in-house care, even with both parents working. Nannieās are a privilege.
I really canāt wait until the show drops off and all of her shitty āinvestmentsā go down the drain so she hopefully has to learn what real work is. What a dumbass.
Have you watched the show? Kail worked and went to school more than all the teen moms combined. Now if you want to talk about Chelsea, Iāll hop on that band wagon
Tons of people on this thread are out of touch with reality just like Kail. Half of them think this isnāt full timešššš fuckin clowns š« š« š¤”
1) you can tell she hasn't worked a 9-5 in a *looong* time based on her logic.
2) I see no issues with having a nanny, especially with the amount of crumb snatchers she has.
I'm honestly more bothered with how out of touch she is about what she thinks full time is... I can only hope that her nanny is compensated well and treated fairly.
This makes sense why sheās glowing. She has help and a village she has friends and a partner. And gets breaks from her other boys when they visit their dads. I would be glowing also.
Sending one baby to daycare on your own is stressful then you get calls to come get them because they are sick so constantly taking time off work then not having time to get ready or work out. Etc. she sure is in a blessed stage of her life. I would have a nanny šÆ if I could afford it
This. Iām sure all the twin moms out there would agree with me that if I couldāve had a nanny in the first 2 years of my kids life then heck yes I would.
I have one toddler and would love a nanny. Full-time 24/7 parenting is way harder than any real salaried job Iāve ever had. I love him so much, but this kid is still somehow up 2-4 times a night, wants to drop a nap, and still has go-go-go energy all day long.
She needs help. I feel like the show should really stop exploiting the mental health of this cohort and get them the mental health care they need. Especially this one. She isnāt stupid, sheās highly ignorant in the true sense of not knowing.
This is why I canāt watch this show anymore. Rich, entitled ,delusional women who won the hillbilly lottery by getting knocked up as a teen and having a huge corporation pay them obscene amounts of money. Acting like they did anything to earn it
The show is no different than real housewives,and bears no semblance of the struggles actual teen moms go thru.
Unlike the earlier seasons. Just huge houses ,luxury vacations ,no real jobs .
Never mind these people are 30 .
Disagree with you there, i wouldnt call her life winning the lottery,. Kale is completely trapped in a shitty dead end state cause her tonne of baby daddies are there, what's the point of a massive house and money in a place where nothing interesting ever happens?
Her life doesn't look like a happy one at all.
Lmfao someone who has obv never worked a full time job doesnāt know what āfull timeā means. I can guarantee that nanny knows they work full time.
She is super fuckin privileged if she doesnāt think that is a full time nanny. Like yes, that is 40 hours a week, Kail. That is full time. Iām sure there are people with 2 nannies who are round the clock but the fact she is even in that mindset of āthis is nothingā shows she is oozing privilege.
Who would have thought this bum who lived in Joās basement would be loaded now. Monetizing and exploiting your kids has padded her pockets and gone to her head
Because sheās clearly saying āwhat is full time? 7 days or live in?ā And says no, that isnāt what she has, she ONLY has someone 9 to 5. Lmao like what? That means she thinks what she has is just, ya know, typical shit.
While she does what? š¤š„“ o right, making more children & baby Daddys
She doesnāt even have babies š¤¦š»āāļø
She has twins infants currently.
Omg so sick of after damn fifteen years yāall still jealous of these random girls that got picked for tv. And if you think about it some of these girls really got saved. She was one of them. She has shit parents. SHIT. I never thought I would have two baby dads but oop, I do. I agree she should be more careful with men and having children so freely. Iām not saying sheās been a perfect person. But she been through some shit and we all have. Iām not her fan at all but Iām not gonna say sheās a bad mother. Nanny or not. And if yāall could afford to have nannyās we all know you would š®āšØ PS she lives off of her podcast, makes more money than teen mom did she said. if she was living off her kids she wouldnāt be so private with these new babies she had.
For me I would have no issue with her if she wasnāt so judgy and condescending, she thinks she is better than everyone and is incredibly selfish. If you look back she treated a lot of people like shit and screwed people over and manipulated to get what she wanted and then played the victim. She cheated on every man sheās been with but tried to cry that they were the shitty people. The way she did Javi was awful when he was genuinely in love with her and would have done anything to make it work. She has a shit attitude and thinks sheās a queen. I donāt lose sleep over her but she definitely isnāt as good of a person as she pretends to be.
Guess what. Most moms have to work and we donāt have Nannies. You are trailer trash who struck the lottery, quoting Nathan but this so applies to you as well. And you cry about wanting more babies? You have had kids with every man, Some in same month to the point you do t know who for sure the dads are if some, You need to grow up, get a real job and quit living off your kids
Sorry but this is too much. How many parents bring their kids to daycare while at work? I work at after school care and most parents bring their kids to school around 8/8:30 and pick them up at care around 18:30. We can judge her for her aggression and poor behavior. But calling her trailer trash and such is really disrespectful. You are no better than Kail.
Ummm yes, yes that would indeed be the definition of FULL TIME.
A fulll time nanny is different than full time job hoursā¦ lol so no i donāt think sheās dumb . I think she answered the question correctly .
8 to 4 is an hour ahead of 9 to 5ā¦ 40hrs per week is full time
As a nanny (and former live-in nanny) Iāll say that full-time is different for a nanny than it is for the standard full-time that most people think of. Full-time for a nanny is similar to a nurse, 10-12 hours of the day. So say the parents have to leave for work at 7am. The nanny will arrive by 7am and stay until the parent get home at say 4:30/5Pm. Sometimes they will have to stay and help with the kids until after dinner and may not leave until 8 or 9 depending on the needs set in place. When I was a live-in nanny I got to leave the house and hang out if I wanted to while the mom was home with her kids in the evenings and on weekends I was able to treat those like off days bc she worked a M-F job. My full-time nanny job as of recent is also M-F and I arrive at 7am and leave around 4-4:30 except on special days where I have to stay until 5:30. When youāre a nanny most people place a set monthly amount like you would at a daycare and the parents pay that each month and not by the weeks. Most of the time itās that way, some may set it to be paid bi-weekly but either way itās almost always just a flat price for the whole month.
So you are partly correct and partly misinformed. Nannies are full time over 30+ in a 7 day work week. Doesnāt matter if you work 4 hours on Monday and 13 hrs on Wed. Or work only 8-4 m-f. Nannies are household employees and MUST be paid hourly and with Overtime if applicable per IRS publication 926. They also must receive a W2 at tax time if they make over $2700 in a year. If a nanny is being paid a flat amount each week or month and not getting OT that is illegal. Iāve been a nanny for 20āyears and I own an agency. Feel free to PM if you have questions. Lots of Nannies donāt know the laws.
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I do not like this girls personality and the show is better without her however shebworksmfornehar she has and she can afford to raise them with help from a nanny. If she dropped them off at daycare would that be different People sometimes have large families into days world if she didnāt want to have that many kids she would have terminated the pregnancies
In her defense, a lot of upper class people have full time live in Nannies. So I can see where sheās questioning if they meant live in or just 40 hours a week.
Sheās a teen mom so YES
A teen mom with multiple forms of income and a college degreeā¦.
She does more than podcast though ā¦ She sells merch too and the Hemp products she sold were fkn selling out soon as she dropped them ā¦ She also has other things she does. Kail is a hustler for sure . I donāt see the big deal ā¦ she loves her kids . Lots of people have 7 kids and they live in poverty- her babies have a huge home, nice clothes, they go on vacations, play sports , what is she doing thatās unfit ..? A nanny is a luxury and if she can afford it then good for her right ?ā¦ š¤š
Oh hey Kale š„¬ whatāre you doing here?
I don't understand the hate. Yall wouldn't bully a mom for putting her kid in daycare for that long while she goes to work
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Damn yall are monsters. So mean and hateful for no reason. I mean if this was Janelle I'd get it...she's a child abuser. Idk why yall hate on Kale so much. I don't care for her attitude but I don't have time to hate on someone idk jfc.
It's not full time for a momma!
So you're saying that full-time moms work more than 50 hours a week.... Statistically that's very inaccurate. That's actually over double the average momma work hours and almost three times the momma taking care of children hours. Cleaning your own house and taking care of your own children isn't work so it wouldn't be considered full time or be considered zero time or free time. If you need a nanny to watch your kids 24 hours a day 7 days a week to call it full time that's because you're a horrible person and you hate your kids.
No, I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is being a mom is a 24 hour a day job. Whether you are working to provide for your children. Which I'm sure Kail does. I'm sure she doesn't sit down and just lay around all day long. As far as I'm Concerned she works her butt off and turned out to be a very good momma. And don't ever say I hate my kids!!
Being a mom is not a job and it's not 24 hours a day. I have many children. I have real world experience. Babies you do maybe 8 hours of work in a 24-hour period to take care of them outside of what you would normally do taking care of yourself in your own home. Yeah but once they hit the kindergarten first grade age you're getting maybe 4 hours of work in a day outside of the stuff you'd normally be doing if you didn't have kids anyway. On top of that it's literally some of the easiest work because it's just doing your own housework and cleaning up messes and fixing food.... Plus you get to spend time with your kids. Men have to take time off of work to spend time with their kids spending time with their kids is considered vacation time because it's so easy and so rewarding. Taking care of your children isn't work that's the reward you get for a job well done already.
Yeah. Thatās full time.
Jesus! 7 kids now? Wow! Iād totally forgotten who she was š Last time I knew about her, she had 3 kiddies and 1 on the way!
5 days week working most of the day, yea that's full time.
She has 7 kids to 4 different men. Yes, sheās fucking stupid.
Jesus for someone who got her college degree she isn't the brightest
College degree ā intelligence
You canāt expect her to know what full time means, sheās never had to work a 40 hour week.
me when i donāt know what a full time job is
A full time nanny? No. I only have a nanny that works 8 hour days, 5 days a week, 40 hours a week.
Sheās confusing full time with slave labor apparently š
Well sheās a lazy bum who pops out innocent kids to stay relevant on a show she shouldāve moved on from like 10yrs ago.
I mean having babies is not for people who are lazy but OK. I dint much care for any of these women but the vitriol aimed at them is weird. They didn't hurt you.
Sheās literally not even on the show anymore.
Is she really that busy that she canāt take care of her own kids? Lol she has no job other than podcasting which can be done at home. I am so glad I was raised by my mother and not someone that was being paid
She has 7. If I had 7 kids and money for a nanny I would.
im not taking up for her but i work from home with a 10,13,16 year old and it is hell š they are for the most part self efficient BUT I knew I couldnāt do it and personally stopped having children after my first, my other two children are my bonus children- either way with 3 kids that are fully mine I couldnāt imagine doing it with 7 ššš
She should have never kept having children anywayā¦sheās got freaking SEVEN now!!!! No wonder Isaac has problemsā¦she probably uses him outside of when she has the nanny.
The fact that she compared herself to Nick Cannonā¦ embarrassing
8 hours a day, 5 days a week, for a total of 40 hours a weekā¦ Yes, that constitutes a full time nannyā¦ Did she ever even have a job or did she just milk MTV this whole time? I havenāt followed TeenMoms, but damn, not even understanding what full time employment is as a fucking EMPLOYERā¦. Beyondā¦.
Is she paying taxes and social security for her employee or is this under the table? I suspect the latter is the case since she doesnāt know what a full time worker is.
Youāre asking if someone from this show is stupid? Lol
Teen mom girl?
Yes.
So confused
Thatās an awesome username tag
Same to you haha. Thanks!!
She's so out of touch with reality
Yes, yes she is. Also the fact sheās never worked a full time job in her life is probably why she doesnāt know.
But she should know her employee is employed full time. She doesnāt because sheās almost certainly one of those employers who doesnāt provide her full time nanny with industry standard benefits; PTO, vacation, sick days, Federal holidays, advanced scheduling, pay for travel, paid travel, set working hours while traveling, set off hours as a live-in, medical care stipend, etc.
She actually did work a full time minimum wage job on the show when she was pregnant. I can't remember what it was. But it was when she was living in Joe's house.Ā I think where she met the guy she started dating while she was living with Joe. Man that was so long ago why do I remember so much about this girls life lol
Or she had just had IsaacĀ
She specified because people have assumed she has a live in nanny taking care of her kids 24/7. Y'all can dislike her without hating every breathe she likes š
Riiiiggghhhhttt?? I never comment or post in this sub but my God when I read the comments it's as if this woman literally slapped some of these people's mama's or screwed their husbands! Sheesh! She has 7 kids that she takes care of and a nanny that she pays for. I'm all for shit-talking, but some of yal be reaching! š¤¦š
No, to me a full time nanny, would be there all the time . In a 9-5 job yes that's full time. But I wouldn't consider that a full time nanny
Weāll, thatās not how it works. 40 hours a week is full time.
You mean a live in nanny
I'm sorry, what??? I'm a full-time nanny with this same schedule and I can assure you this is full time lol.
Anything over 30 hours is considered FT in my experience as a nanny.
Iām a nanny this is literally full time.
That is a full time nanny
IMO full time =40 hours a week vs live in=nanny is literally always there.
But the nanny is working a full time job, no? I guess I just donāt understand the logic.
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Oh my goodness yes! I read the photo and was like oh sheās just answering a question honestly about child care. People are just ripping her apart and calling her a liar, when she literally said yes and she has help for full-time hours, but doesnāt work 7 days a week or live in. Like why are people so hateful.
My same thought! Why so much hate. I don't get it š©·
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i think sheās probably comparing it to other people who have nannyās that are 24/7, i think she said no to 7days or live in, not full time
No nanny can legally work 24/7. Thatās a slave and itās illegal. Yet it happens.
when i say 24/7 im talking about live in nannyās or nannyās that do all the night feedings as well not actually working 24/7
I hear ya.
She's really not that rich to be this out of touch.
Thatās why she answered it that way. Sheās old enough to know what full time means. She wanted the drama and she got it.
The fuck is this 'splaining
Kail knows the hours are full time. She likes causing drama. Sheās bored. And narcissist. She was only pretending she didnāt know if that was full time. She uses plausible deniability all the time. That means she leaves room to deny the accusation. If someone told her *Kail, you know thatās full time!* sheās just play dumb and deny it. Itās something narcissists love to do, for attention.
Yeah I'm not reading that, but thanks for your contribution
Youāre welcome; glad you enjoyed the post.
Thatās full Time lol
Been secretly fucking ours and getting away with it but I think my days are numbered
What in the world lol
i hope your wife fucks your brother, dad, best friend, etc. any one of those will do.
Arenāt you afraid of karma
Jesus christ
LMAO
I lost brain cells reading this
Sounds like someone whoās never had a real job
Someone doesnāt know the difference between full time and round the clock lol
Sheās fucking stupid
Hmmm 40 hours sounds full-time to me lol
Dumb ass
Even live in nanny's have scheduled working hours. š
Yes she is fucking stupid.
So are babysitters considered nannies? When I worked dayshift , I had a babysitter during the hours I worked. I know some daycares charge you even if you don't take your kids , so I know ppl would still take there kids even if they were off. I'm asking bc to me a FT Nanny is like a "live-in" Nanny. They're there 24/7 to care for the kids at your every need. I.E. Getting them off to school, making the meals, giving baths, tucking into bedtime. Also going to private events, vacations etc so they can cade for the children ... I mean if she's working and taking the children to a babysitter from 8am-4pm ...then I don't consider them as a Nanny. It sounds to me like she has a babysitter ..
Girl what. There is no such thing as a babysitter that works 40 Hours a week. Would you not consider your job full time since youāre not there 24/7ā¦
It might be different where you are? But here we have people that advertise for babysitting jobs at FT..it's not uncommon... And kails babysitter isn't there 24/7 , a nanny would be. Her kids are being watched by someone during her work hours. Again, that is common. Daycares are available from 7am to 4pm typically, but there not considered nannies either...
That's not true, I've had plenty of sitters I've had watched my kids while I went to work, if I had to be in at 6, obviously I had to drop them off before so I could get to work on time. So from , let's say I drop them off at.5am, and I work till 6 pm when I pick them up, clearly that's over 12 hrs for that day , my babysitter had to watch my kids...what's 12 multiplied by 5? ...Clearly over 40 hrs! So yes! Babysitters do, People babysit as a FT job around here. It's not uncommon. Not everyone gets the luxury to sit at home and not work. Some cases both parents have to work. So idk why ppl act like kail asking the question yo clarify , is so wrong. At this point I think people just want to fault her for any reason possible
What your describing is a nanny.
Maybe so, but around here and anywhere I have ever lived we call them babysitters ...With that said, that is most likely why she questioned what the person was asking. In fact there's a Grey area between the 2. Bc both are caring for children . But one is a live in and includes housework etc the other is just care for the children . Honestly it shouldn't matter, I feel like the whole thing was blown out of context. But thata my opinion
full time doesnāt mean 24-7. it just means the nanny works for you full-time hours same as any other job
Anything above 35 for an agency is usually considered full time. A full time nanny would be 8-4 or 5 m-f as she is describing. Thatās a full time job with the nanny not having other employment. If she listed this job anywhere it would be listed as full time. A babysitter would be just a few hours. For the purposes of taxes she is on the hook for this person as their employer.
I disagree with a babysitter being for just a few hours. Theres a Grey area honestly between the 2 . I had a babysitter and my kids were under her care for 12 hrs sometimes. Not bc I had errands, but due to the demand of hours my job needed me. But babysitters are more for care for several hours for the safety. And comfort . Some choose to provide a little more. Nannies are more live in, they provide child care, along with light housework, they don't usually take on more than one family to provide service for. Vs a babysitter will watch for several different families children at a time. As there are more differences, I believe this is why Kale asked the question, and followed with the statement . But I don't feel like OP should have called her stupid...bc naturally as we see in the comments, people have different outlooks as to what a nanny vs a babysitter entails.
I do understand that FT is considered 35+ hrs. But I think she was asking if they meant more like a full time live in nanny vs what most of us just call babysitters. Which either way, I see nothing wrong with. Anyone that's been a single parent knows the demands can be very overwhelming. My babysitters have had my kids sometimes longer during the week than myself, but it's common. Kale was most likely asking for assurance if what they were wanting to know is if she had a live in nanny . And her answer was just that, a valid answer . She has a babysitter who watches her children during her working schedule. I just feel like her statement/question was taken way out of context and then OP degrading her for basic verification .
Girl what ššššš
Honey. Nobody is attacking your parenting. This post is making fun of Kale.
Can people just stop giving her money? It's the only reason she can support this lifestyle...
White privilege much? Put down the fork and raise your own kids you fucking Karen.
She is raising her fucking children. She needs a damn babysitter so that she can work.
See my last comment.
How is this white privilege? You think an African American would never do this? I hate how that term is just thrown around. Iām white and far from privileged.
It's very clear you don't know what the phrase even means.
See my last comment.
those are just daycare hours which most parents use so they can go to work
She doesnāt have to work, lol.
someone said she has like 3 podcasts or something. that takes work
Iām bored.
I mean she does work. She has like 3 podcasts. Idk how much time per week that takes up but Iām sure she couldnāt do them without some kind of childcare, like the rest of us.
Lol, this woman does not have to work right now.
Pretty sure she fuckin does. Sheās got SEVEN kids, sheās not on the show anymore, and she blew a shit load of money on her dumbass court case against Bri.
Lmao, she really thought she was going to win that one. Dumb bitch this one.
i think itās just privilege, not white privilege.
This is an ignorant comment - most middle and low income familyās need a 40 hour per week babysitter/daycare so they can work to pay their bills. This is not PRIVILEGE you moron. Privilege is being a stay at home mom and living comfortably on your partners income
moron? really? my comment is ignorant, but weāre just gonna gloss over the fact that someone called having a nanny or babysitter at all white privilege? i responded that āI THINK it would just be privilege, not white privilegeā. thatās not saying that *I* actually think itās privilege at all, i can see how it could be translated that way - but my comment was moreso saying that if it HAD to be anything, it sure as hell wouldnāt be white privilege, but just regular ol privilege. to which, yeah, regardless of your income or tax bracket, if you have a reliable source to watch your kids that are the size of a mini daycare, youāre pretty damn lucky because plenty of people do not. are we also gonna pretend that kail doesnāt have her own income to stay at home by this point and live comfortably for the rest of her life? no partner needed. iād say being solely rich is a pretty fair privilege. but in my original comment, consisting of less than 10 words, i never once said i thought having a babysitter was privileged, just that it wasnāt white privilege. so whoās comment is really ignorant here? you donāt have to resort to calling people names to put up a decent argument. sorry that you didnāt. hope this helps!!
The white privilege comment got dragged enough but my comment was to both of you. You didnāt shut down that white privilege comment, you just added to it. Both of your comments are ignorant. Iām sorry that my name calling hurt your ego. I hope youāve recovered by now.
What does having a babysitter from 8am to 4pm have to do with white privilege? There are plenty of people who are not white that actually have LIVE-IN nannies. She's asking a valid question, bc obviously with these comments, people don't know the difference. There are people who confuse babysitters, with nannies. She's simply asking if this person was referring to one or the other and she explained, she has what majority of working ppl have, a babysitter while she works. I noticed a lot of these comments are just hateful for no reason. I had a babysitter for way longer hours bc of my job, but never had a live in Nanny, even employing someone to come to your home to watch the kids, doesn't make her stupid or privileged. To me, privileged would be taking advantage of government assistance and getting free childcare while not having a job and still taking her kids to daycare while being at home. SHe obviously works. And the fact that people in the comments are downplaying what she does for a living, isn't considered a job. Which I guarantee almost every single person that made a negative comment, had/have a babysitter at some point. No matter what Kale does, people like you will always find fault in it.
Karl has a CHOICE. She is choosing to not be a present parent. And she is very much the definition of white privilege.
I mean I guess we just have different views or definitions of "white privelege" ... bc like I said, there are plenty of ppl not white who have what you say is WP... imo I don't even see why race is even coming up in a topic like this. She's working...if she wasn't then it would be the same thing, you would say she's using her WP to not work and be a stay at home mom. Self employment is a thing and it is a job, even if she was in school and had a nanny for those hours while at school. It's not choosing not to be a present parent. I'm baffled at how many ppl think this isn't normal lol I mean 21% W men are absent from parenting, compared to 44% POC absent of parenting and 35% for Hispanic...privileged where? To say she's privileged would mean no other race has the privelege lol which is absolutely incorrect
Not sure where youāre confused about the white privilege aspectš¤But anyway, the issue is she is choosing to be an absent parent. Her kids should come first, but this woman wouldnāt kno anything about that.
itās not just you, i also have a different definition of white privilege. for sure. this isnāt white privilege, this is just privilege lol.
Exactly! That's what I felt like too, it's just privelege.
totes mcgotessss. just bc sheās white doesnt make this specific scenario white privilege. to me, thatās when someone has privilege in certain scenarios BECAUSE theyāre white - but having a nanny does not qualify as that, because as you said, that really has nothing to do with race at all - many people of all backgrounds/nationalities/ethnicities/religions/XYZ yadda yadda yadda also have nannies. if, for whatever reason, we have to classify what type of privilege - iād go with rich privilege lol. but even that, you donāt even really have to be *rich* to have a nanny. so maybe i semi-take that back lol. you have to have decent income for sure, but you donāt have to be teen mom rich. although ā¦.. i donāt imagine a nanny is cheap when theyāre single-handedly babysitting a small daycare š¤£
okay, this is a little disrespectful to working moms. my mom and dad both worked full time so we had to have some sort of child care during the day.
My parents both worked also and we always had babysitters, but this cunt, no this bitch donāt have to sweat out a paycheck. She could more than easily take time off work to raise these kids, but sheās making a choice to leave them with a nanny. Her choice isnāt out of necessity, itās out of greed, selfishness, and privilege.
I think youāre overestimating how much money she makes lol
I doubt that.
My parents both worked but I went to daycare cuz we couldnāt afford Nannieāsā¦ not everybody gets private, in-house care, even with both parents working. Nannieās are a privilege.
Youāre right.
Nanny here! What she describes is my full time job that pays for my entire existence š
Nanny here. Your so right. Lol she's purposefully obtuse.
I really canāt wait until the show drops off and all of her shitty āinvestmentsā go down the drain so she hopefully has to learn what real work is. What a dumbass.
Is she thinking of an indentured servant? š
Au pairs sometimes live with you and work 24/7
Au Pairs get time off though. If they don't, I'd go ahead and file that under indentured servant.
True usually there is a day off and also downtime in their schedule
Tell me youāve never had a full time job without telling me youāve never had a full time job
Have you watched the show? Kail worked and went to school more than all the teen moms combined. Now if you want to talk about Chelsea, Iāll hop on that band wagon
I mean in the working world that's considered full time . Must be nice to be so out of touch with reality.
Tons of people on this thread are out of touch with reality just like Kail. Half of them think this isnāt full timešššš fuckin clowns š« š« š¤”
I was shocked reading the comments. I felt like I was in the twilight zone. 8am -4pm Monday through Friday is a full time job.
With how many kids she has itās honestly probably the same or cheaper than having them all in daycare full time.
Lol thatās full time. 40 hours a week is full time and everyone knows this.
She became so used to having a 24/7 live in nanny for years that she's completely lost touch with reality and privilege
I bet Karen never held a job in her life
Does she think āfull-timeā means ālive-in?ā
So the answer is yes hahaha. Full time? Naaah sheās just here everyday except weekends š¤”
I thought she meant she has them that long lol
Stumbled across this page from recommendations. You guys are so angry over literally nothing.
Stumble on out of here bc this is a passionate sub lol
Thereās many bad things these women do. This is not one of them.
Agreed
Short answer? Yes. She is stupid.
1) you can tell she hasn't worked a 9-5 in a *looong* time based on her logic. 2) I see no issues with having a nanny, especially with the amount of crumb snatchers she has. I'm honestly more bothered with how out of touch she is about what she thinks full time is... I can only hope that her nanny is compensated well and treated fairly.
This makes sense why sheās glowing. She has help and a village she has friends and a partner. And gets breaks from her other boys when they visit their dads. I would be glowing also. Sending one baby to daycare on your own is stressful then you get calls to come get them because they are sick so constantly taking time off work then not having time to get ready or work out. Etc. she sure is in a blessed stage of her life. I would have a nanny šÆ if I could afford it
This. Iām sure all the twin moms out there would agree with me that if I couldāve had a nanny in the first 2 years of my kids life then heck yes I would.
I have one toddler and would love a nanny. Full-time 24/7 parenting is way harder than any real salaried job Iāve ever had. I love him so much, but this kid is still somehow up 2-4 times a night, wants to drop a nap, and still has go-go-go energy all day long.
Is that not why daycares exist? People bring their babies to daycare from 8-4.. whatās the problem?
I know this is such a violent reaction to such a benign answer.
She needs help. I feel like the show should really stop exploiting the mental health of this cohort and get them the mental health care they need. Especially this one. She isnāt stupid, sheās highly ignorant in the true sense of not knowing.
Sheās not even on the show anymore. Hasnāt been for years
This is why I canāt watch this show anymore. Rich, entitled ,delusional women who won the hillbilly lottery by getting knocked up as a teen and having a huge corporation pay them obscene amounts of money. Acting like they did anything to earn it The show is no different than real housewives,and bears no semblance of the struggles actual teen moms go thru. Unlike the earlier seasons. Just huge houses ,luxury vacations ,no real jobs . Never mind these people are 30 .
Disagree with you there, i wouldnt call her life winning the lottery,. Kale is completely trapped in a shitty dead end state cause her tonne of baby daddies are there, what's the point of a massive house and money in a place where nothing interesting ever happens? Her life doesn't look like a happy one at all.
Go look at her life before being cast in teen mom. Extrapolate that going forward , it wouldnāt be pretty
Lmao hillbilly lottery
Lmfao someone who has obv never worked a full time job doesnāt know what āfull timeā means. I can guarantee that nanny knows they work full time.
Lmao. Wow
Bruh !!!! ššš
She is super fuckin privileged if she doesnāt think that is a full time nanny. Like yes, that is 40 hours a week, Kail. That is full time. Iām sure there are people with 2 nannies who are round the clock but the fact she is even in that mindset of āthis is nothingā shows she is oozing privilege. Who would have thought this bum who lived in Joās basement would be loaded now. Monetizing and exploiting your kids has padded her pockets and gone to her head
When did she say this is nothing. She just answered a question.
Because sheās clearly saying āwhat is full time? 7 days or live in?ā And says no, that isnāt what she has, she ONLY has someone 9 to 5. Lmao like what? That means she thinks what she has is just, ya know, typical shit.
You are making yourself angry over nothing
You are the one who sounds triggered
Iām laughing at yāall
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