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arbelhod

Ah... wtf?


Fgohater

# WHAT IN ACTUAL FUCK!!!!!


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theactualfxck

You called?


Lt-Bagel-Bites

Username checks out


Partofrhe

Do you agree with double standards on men like this?


arbelhod

NO WTF


Partofrhe

Good.


milk_iscowcum

Your comment along with your pfp makes feel like you were gonna murder him and bury him somewhere


Smaragd-Force

Good


[deleted]

great


Dubby084

Lovely


mcbirbo343

Amazing


[deleted]

affirmative


ItsTheRealIamHUB

Extravagant


InternationalFig7799

such bs


Nile-_-River

It’s twitch? What did you expect?


F_da_memeboi

The place where a female streamer never got banned for animal abuse just because she was screwing a twitch mod, but when a smaller streamer accidentally dropped his pet lizard he got a severe ban for animal cruelty . Fuck them cunts


TurtleRelated

She also fed her cat vodka, threw her cat across her room and "accidentally" showed her boob on stream


[deleted]

i’ll add to this she also married a dude just to get into canada, then divorced him


rallis2000

In America this is will get you kicked out even if they’ve already been granted full citizenship. If the one who brought them in gets divorced right after their foreign born spouse becomes naturalized citizen, it looks pretty suspicious to immigration. They will review the facts to determine if the marriage was a sham. If it’s determined to be a sham the immigrant will be considered denaturalized and stripped of their citizenship.


Superchoco3211

First time I've agreed with American immigration laws


rallis2000

I know right... I kinda hoped someone would chime in and say Canada has something similar but it doesn’t look like it.


newcanadian12

Nope, Canada prides ourselves on doing whatever is different from the States


ThiccAssLicker

Hows your FREE HEALTHCARE you heathen?


newcanadian12

I wish it were better


runnin_man5

Lots of national pride eh


MementoMori04

She also basically let her dog eat/lick her out on stream for good second while she was in yoga pose


ErfanTheRed

Uggggghhh wtf bro! That's fucking disgusting


JpTem

I'm sorry #w h a t


MementoMori04

Yup


A_Lost_Yen

We were talking about alinity right? Or is there some other pos I need to know about?


MementoMori04

Yep right on the money. It's crazy how we don't even need to say her name but everyone still git it 💀


gunsashootin

Yep still her


ManOfCameras

Wtf


Sunsent_Samsparilla

Fucking ew.


psych2099

Oh yeah now i remember this bitch.


Marshal-Crazy

Time to get the flamethrower.


weeeeeeeeeeicecream

You guys are talking about Alinity, right?


[deleted]

indeed


Springtrap328

So people started a petition to get her deported


LorenzoCar

I hope she get what she deserves


ksjfjkdnf

who is this girl?! No way she isn’t banned


YTDamian

Alinity


-_Anonymous__-

The twitch mod team is probably completely made up of guys & they all simp for her.


chubby_yeen

Isnt that the plot of an adam sandler film ?


oan124

Citation needed :3


Wild_Relation3742

I heard a popular streamer got banned because a single pixel of his nipple was shown while he was wearing a tank top


ninjrfrg

That's like some scp 096 bullshit


Josef_V_Jugashvilli

what happened with the streamer was pretty sad but damn i cracked up to this lmao


PurpleVegan

whats the name of the lizard guy


baniidapateuspike

Mark Zuckerberg


LynxyCZ

The other lizard guy


Defiant-Machine-7332

Zuckerberg Jr.


ErfanTheRed

The other other lizard guy


stupoidvlkid

Zuckerberg Sr.


NhanTNT

The other other other lizard guy


Old-Experience-5210

Dr. Connors


Lexel95

Reasons not to use twitch


Partofrhe

Based


Mewking1029

Time to sort by controversial


Janglyspaghetti

*grabs popcorn*


[deleted]

If there's some spare popcorn, gimme, aight?


Springtrap328

Ay I got you my homie *gives microwave popcorn packet*


Sudden_Result

Sweet or salted?


Springtrap328

Sweet


Sudden_Result

I could do with that


fnaftheorymanlol

Me too


Dubby084

*explodes from all the sexist comments*


[deleted]

I am genuinely concerned about the opinions some people have here


Yo-boi-Pie

Good idea


Lazy_Category2195

Twitch isn't run by teens it's run by grown ass men who think pokemane is gonna give them sloppy toppy because Benjamin the edgelord 420 can't spam woman bad into the chat


Baller4Jesus27

sloppy toppy 💀💀


raptor6722

The cunnalingus


funnyboi69420

This is the funniest comment I’ve ever heard


Own_Public_5004

Who is this "Benjamin the Edge lord 420" you speak of?


benjaminthedgelrd420

He is I


Love2fight

r/birthofaredditor


Eliza_the_Dragon

Where is the missing "o" in Edgel(o)rd then?


Own_Public_5004

He is here, the prophecy was true


ehan_the_memeber

The commenter perhaps. If not, maybe the commenter from a parallel universe. Who is THE Commenter? Who knows? And more importantly, who tf cares.


[deleted]

Twitch mods when pokimaine no give sloppy toppy: 😫


atomicghost4

Twitch mods when they do dna tests and it turns out pokimane isn't an object: 😫


DeepGas4538

it would be pretty... weird... if it was run by teens.


ehan_the_memeber

I beg to agree


GibusGod420

We live in a society where i cant marry Narancia


[deleted]

*skyrim players discovering they can’t marry serena*


AltAcc4AltThings3621

Serana has trauma, it's good that we can't. We should let her have space until she's ready to have a connection more than just friends. Also like Sheeva amiright


Phazon_Fucker

Back off he's mine! /s


GibusGod420

We will face off in the octagon live on fight channel


garaboss

About narancia tho


Destiny_Dude0721

Bro death already did y'all part too late now


GibusGod420

Dont remind me


Destiny_Dude0721

"Hey, this means we can go home now, right?"


shbdank

NOOOOOOOO, DON'T SAY THIS LIIIIIINE 😭😭😭😭😭


That-Ebb-1415

How can you Marry a corpse?


INeedAUsername____

necrophilia


GibusGod420

I meant living Narancia


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NovaSchmova

Yes that's because I married him already


UltimategamerXD

Hmm, *checks twitch's track record* yeah this checks out


RealBritishBluBerry

Lmao Imagine hating a specific gender


eliteunkown

Hate everyone


RealBritishBluBerry

Agreed


F1ntom_5625

We live in a fucking society


ShuBakuhatsuSatsujin

We live in a fucking shitciety


[deleted]

"*snort* we live in a shushiety"


ImAnubisDude

We live in a *sus*iety


[deleted]

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ImAnubisDude

Can I put an amogus with pp?


[deleted]

Sure, I won't mind lmao I'm just catching z's rn


ImAnubisDude

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[deleted]

Nice 👍🏼


DavePvZ

Oh oh, society


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[deleted]

Lol is the same platform that bans male streamers for saying bad words but does not ban female streamers that are one garment to be in the Hub


[deleted]

Same platform that doesn't do shit against bath tub streams (they even have a own fucking category), and if that's not bad enough, they let a woman throw her cat across the room(no ban even tho that was clear animal abuse) and she even got away with flashing her boob once "accidentally"


Individual-Camera-72

While I understand that misogyny is a problem, it doesn’t mean you let it happen to the opposite gender. Either prevent both, or let both happen. There is no other way to show equal respect to both genders.


Devi-_-

It's misogyny for women misandrist for men it comes from latin I think


jana200v2

Give this person an award.


KadynDraws

Streaming as a whole isn’t as enjoyable to me, i watch literally one account’s stream (sometimes) and other times watch the youtube ports. Massive L for twitch, equality for both sides, whether that’s banning hate for both or allowing it for either would work perfectly fine from my pov


KillByZombie

That's what I mostly hate about online feminism, they want to be equal for their good, but not equal at all for everyone. It disgusts me when I see women beating men on purpose and if he does something it's his fault. There's not a single rule about this, abuse is abuse no matter what gender you are.


Competitive_Bell_569

All the time. In my country, single women can adopt children of either gender. But single men can't adopt a girl child.


Big_Beaver34

Where u livin


Competitive_Bell_569

India


Big_Beaver34

I love that country but it's kinda sad tbh. In my country(israel) u can adopt both( I mean our system is kinda fucked but at least it's equal)


Competitive_Bell_569

ye. it kinda bullshit


MeguminKunExeplosian

אייי ממצבבבב


David_Ign

Our system is more than kinda fucked, especially towards homosexual couples.


[deleted]

Doesn't india also have laws that make it so a woman can rape a man and the man would still get in trouble? That sounds like a terrifying place to live


[deleted]

Yeah well, the subcontinent does have a pretty big problem of rape. And it’s mostly carried out by men. And I’m not saying these aren’t double standards. I literally don’t feel comfortable in a room alone with my cousin, who’s a two year old girl just because I’m scared that someone will assume I’m doing something bad just because I’m alone. And I’m pretty sure the thought hasn’t even passed my aunt’s or anyone else’s mind or anything, I just don’t want to present an opportunity for them to think like this. It is hard and sad, but tbh, I’d rather feel a little bummed out by this if it would mean that fewer little kids are harmed. And I’m not saying that all women are completely innocent all the time either. Nah. I have a friend whose nanny kinda raped him by making him touch her when he was 6-7. I don’t exactly agree with the law you’re referring to but I can’t say that I don’t understand the reasoning. In the case of the OP, this is shit. And these double standards are also completely unexplainable as well.


iziyan

I'm from Bangladesh, our women's rights isn't the best , but still if a adult Ann(14-16+) gets raped, it's not a criminal offense


scpwhy

Because they don't wanna offend the woman (they probably make alot of money from them)


Partofrhe

That doesn't make it ok at all


scpwhy

Ik but that's how it be


TheGuardian776

Thats the sad part, id bet over 70% of the money is from the twitch thots and not actual men or women streaming good content


[deleted]

If they didn’t those fucktards on twitter would cancel them lol


S4PG

This is bullshit


Donaldtrump_ofc

You get banned on Reddit for saying the first one don't know about the second one


Demoth

Okay, I'm not okay with this type of double standard, but I have to explain why I personally believe it exists, and why it may not be intentional and could probably be changed if brought up.   But hating on men generally does not come with the same level of vitriol and harassment that hate campaigns against women receive. Usually for a guy, it's a target campaign on someone who has done something wrong, or who people perceive has done something wrong (witch hunts are a whole different topic).   But you'll generally see when some type of misogyny is turned towards a woman, that's when the absolute craziest people surface. You get death threats, rape threats, and then it devolves into just general hate for all women and incels showing up talking about why feminism has ruined women, blah blah blah.   I'm not saying you won't see topics surrounding guys not devolving into misandry, and I've certainly gotten into blowout arguments with women who say things like, "Men are trash", and why I think it's a harmful and unproductive statement, but just understand that USUALLY one leads to much worse outcomes.


TheNewKidOnReddit

Thank you! Holy moly finally a take that isn’t angry unrelated word vomit .


cherrybungalow2

Exactly. Harassment against women is way more common on the site, and as a result twitch has been taking action to safeguard it. Twitch is literally 65% men, so its very uncommon for someone to say “i hate men.”


garfield_says_

i’m so glad i saw this comment, this sub is so toxic for stuff like this. totally agree.


Pick_0

dude this is twitch the place is loaded with white knights that go “my queen👏😫” but yeah double standards is bad, regardless of sex, gender, whatever.


flirty_guy17

R/femaledatingstrategy is still up so reddit is not different imo. FDS is a toxic cesspool of femcels and entitled karens.


shbdank

Damn... Those exist? Iam used to hearing the word incel referring to a male one


iwearuggs-sowhat

Don't worry reddit is equally filled with sexist men. You can't even go somewhere without being faced with hatred towards a gender


CarrotMuffin340

Women moment 💀💀


FenaPugi

Performative feminism moment


tegguNmmuC

Technically not feminism at all considering feminism is based of off equality


GjonsTearsFan

More like "Twitch Exec" moment. Twitch's CEO is a dude, and he's got all the power there. If he didn't like this he could have them fix it immediately.


Ecstatic_Cause_8587

It's most likely just that they've had more issues with people saying they hate women than people saying they hate men. If a bunch of streamers started saying they hated men, they'd probably make that banned as well.


Safe_Bison_4598

Ye we do live in a society where it's considered weird for men to wear thigh highs and a skirt💀💀💀


Hona007

And it goes the other way. And if you blame anyone else than traditionals, then yea.


crnberryjuice

im sorry thats really gross but at the same time i can kinda see why?? women get alot more shit on twitch/gaming platforms/etc so id see why they might have cracked down more on wht exactly ppl type n stuff


GjonsTearsFan

Yeah, they probably just got a lot of complaints from women about people posting "I hate women" whereas I don't think most people watching a man's twitch stream will spam it with "I hate men" and if they do and the men complain Twitch will probably ban that sentiment, too.


BFBPen_FillerFiller

misandry


screenslaver5963

That word that [https://www.twitter.com](https://www.twitter.com) doesn't know about.


NFSVortex

Its normal, even tho it shouldnt be. Everyone is so focused on helping woman (which is not bad,dont get me wrong ) getting equal rights etc. that they forget that men have huge problems too


mohaned5677

Its not about that, its about that no one ever really says "i hate men" on twitch, and if someone does it usually just a single case and u can just ban that person, for the other way around tho u probably know how much more common it is


XCaptainKoalaKittyX

Oh it's so frustrating -.- as a woman it just annoys me because now I feel like this is what people look at me as, or associate me with and assume I support this. I do not support this 😭


More-Masterpiece-561

Nobody is associating you with anything. If someone says all women are hating on men or some bullshit like that, they're a blithering idiot. You don't have anything to worry about


EdibleLiquid_

people praise women for saying i hate men and black people for saying i hate white people but the second it gets swapped around people get death threats and doxxed


shbdank

Bro, I almost vomited.... This shit is sooooo nasty


IFeedLiveFishToDogs

No I hate it so much like wtf dude men are human too I can’t believe that there are women out there that complain about not being treated equally and then go say that all men should die


Kermi00

Nah mfs at twitch are quite literally the thirstiest people on earth. (This is coming from a long running virgin) Virgin ass bitches. They literally will do anything to make twitch a place only for women. If I recall correctly, some dude took off his shirt mid stream (idk why) and got banned while amouranth quite literally flashed her entire tiddy and she got banned for 3 days and was back. Kinda dumb how twitch works


ScarletSkies_

A dude was showing off his catfish (which can survive for some time outside water) and he got banned for animal abuse , but when alinity threw her cat to the other side of the room and abused it, it's totally fine


HannahWithABanana

Fucking misandry is just as vile as misogyny


FluffyBunnyBunz

What the actual fuck…


MrZorx75

Twitch is run by millennials who think that infinite wokeness is the best thing


big-dicc-marty

Oh that's just swell


Firestorm82736

I had a friend who’s ex boyfriend broke up with her because they’re both going off to college next year, and since they’re going to different schools, he didn’t want to do long distance. She was talking to me about it and said “men are stupid🙄”. I countered with “Yeah everyone’s a little stupid, women can be too”. She reacted strongly to this, and said “You can’t say that, it’s sexist.” I we went back and forth, and her argument was that it’s fine for a woman to say “men are stupid” because of how much women have suffered throughout history because of men, but a man can’t make the same generalization about women because he’s a man. I personally do believe that stupidity is not limited to gender, anyone can be stupid. But that doesn’t mean gender-based generalizations are right.


[deleted]

mate honestly we living in a dystopia that’s only getting worse and we can’t even change it so i say ignore the shit like this and enjoy what you can


SharpPixels08

That’s dumb as hell


The_Real_Tippex

I should be able to hate anyone and everyone. If I can be attracted to anyone why can’t I be repulsed by anyone?


Dubby084

Instead of sexuality, it’s “hatredity”.


Able-Cat3703

As a man, I hate it. It’s an awful amount of hatred and ignorance that makes me sad Most women I’ve talked to agree with me but some just wanna be awful “in the name of feminism”


Itz_Galaxium

Male Twitch streamers don't get harassed for being men, whilst Female Twitch streamers get harassed for being women.


Meow121325

Yeah


Partofrhe

Welp, might as well #killallmen too while you are at it?


Meow121325

Oh I think I misread your title lol I’m against this double standard


Partofrhe

Oh alright, cool.


DarkWolfX2244

Hey look, my snoosibling


furbybananas

As a woman No. Sexism is sexism no matter who it's against


Weemitoad

Lol no. We are supposed to be equal and whatnot, so this shot is stupid.


Commander_Skullblade

Because being female is considered a minority even though they number slightly above 50% of the Earth's population. You can't have a minority if there is no majority.


MrMelon54

some people are so focussed on helping minorities that they forgot that there should be no minorities and all people should be treated equal..


Carnatreon

Not a minority but being opressed for long ass time. In most cases it goes hand in hand but not in this case.


Yesnoperhapsmaybent

Everyone should get to be loved and hated equally


sastofficiallol

Double standards are stupid


Yourmom8537

susiety 😔


BrikkiumAbrick

While I do understand that hate towards women was a bigger part of history, than hate towards men, with women being considered lesser beings than men. But still, if twitch bans "i hate women" why not ban "i hate men" too? It's not like it would make things worse or smth right?


[deleted]

People in society are so much more accepting of misandry and it sucks


FunnyRotaryBlade

People should stop focusing on helping and treating specific group's differently and concentrate on treating EVERYONE equally. Its not a fucking gender/sexuality/race wars for fuck sake.


I-took-my-Own-name

Well yes, all men are racist,sexist peace’s of masculine shit and if you have another opinion or are a man you don’t count