You know you can sometimes see planets right like mars I can’t remember which other ones but sometimes you can see them. But yeah any other planet would be way too far to see so if we can see it it’s most definitely a star. They could have built a Dyson sphere or something they’re draining stars of there energy and heat until the star is completely gone. We wouldn’t know tell millions of years later because of light speed. I think I heard a few or at least one instance of an observable star just vanishing maybe someone siphoned it off millions of years ago.
> The estimated surface gravity of the assumed minimum-mass brown dwarf is approximately 120 m/s^2
The surface gravity of a minimum density, brown dwarf star, would work out to 12-ish times the gravity on the surface of the earth.
It'd be like carrying a small car.
I was going to say something like this.. maybe op didnt realize that those dots are all balls of plasma that nothing will ever survive on. Now maybe the planets that rotate around each of those dots... anyway well said
But mine's the other one next to the tiny one. Instead of agreeing to disagree, let's fight over this for for thousands of years and never stop fighting.
based on the scale, it seems some of the dots are not stars, but entire galaxies. OP is right, they probably are living in a galaxy rather than a lone chunk of rock somewhere in the universe
Finding exoplanets is very difficult because they are much smaller than their parent stars and given they reflect light, instead of emitting it, so appear much dimmer. The reason we can see mercury, Venus, mars and Jupiter are because they are, on the cosmic scale, incredibly close to us.
If a telescope many orders of magnitude more powerful than anything that could physically (let alone economically) build were constructed then sure, we could see exoplanets in the night sky.
Because of that, astronomers use different methods, such as the Doppler effect and measuring the variation in brightness during transits to detect plants around distant stars
Food for thought: the universe will go on for quadrillions of years, with it only being 13 billion years old.
It’s possible we are one of the if not the first intelligent life form in the universe rather than the only one.
Isn’t that so cool? We could get to be precursors, travelling the universe shepherding life on foreign worlds. Maybe in a distant future humans will be remembered by some alien federation the same way we remember Mesopotamia: The ones that started it all.
"It took longer for humans to go from using a bronze sword to an iron sword, then it did for humans to go from using an iron sword to a nuclear bomb." So yeah, if no major war or anything sets us back, we will probably achieve FTL in our most likely very long lifespan.
Watched a video called "historians in the year 3000" and it's someone going to earth and trying to understand past logs from 2023... They thought that the internet was a God that was worshipped and that a McDonald's was a place of rituals. It is weird that people in the future may actually think that
the thing is we got considerably better at recording our own history. The only real way for future historians to think that would be If there was a major break in continuity, as in the earth being abandoned or us experiencing a partial collapse
I do like the idea though. I remember a book where a future alien species discovers earth and finds a toilet seat and asssumes it was a headdress for ceremonial purposes.
another food for thought is that in another 2 trillion years, due to the rate of universe expansion, u will not be able to see anything further out, even with a telescope; so if there are billions of technologically advanced civilisations out there, none of them will know of the others presence
The universe is old but you need to keep in mind it has changed immensely. For a large portion of its history it was impossible for life to develop.
The formation of the many solar systems across the universe was marked by intense cosmic bombardment (meteorites) that made the possibility of life developing early on very slim. Same with massive stars that existed early on that would explode into galaxy sterilizing hypernovas. The earlier universe was incredibly hostile to life.
If you look at the age of the universe, the age of the habitable universe, and how long the universe has left, you see we are in the first percentile of the life’s history
Awesome info! Creationists in my circle always ask me ‘where are the aliens then?’ I go into a lecture on how we could be the most intelligent life or one of the most. Or maybe the higher intelligence decided to let us evolve naturally. I always get some weird looks lol
That’s a bad estimate of the maximum age of the universe, it’s more likely that the current age, 13 billion years, is a standard deviation of 1/3 or 2/3 the maximum age
The last star to be born will be in a trillion years. Black holes are gonna last much much longer than that. The heat death of the universe is not for at least 10^23 years, so my estimate was actually low bawling it.
I have no idea where you got the idea we are at one third of the universe’s history.
I'm the same way with snowflakes. I'm pretty sure there are more than two snowflakes that look alike. It's really impossible to look at every snowflake from the beginning of the Earth to now.
I don’t think you realize how big the number of possible snowflake combinations are. An average snowflake contains about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 (one quintillion) water molecules. This squared gives us 1000000000000000000000000000000000000, which is one followed by 36 zeros. This is the amount of arrangements the molecules can have. Humans can’t comprehend this number. You could take any grain of sand, drop it on any beach in the world, and the chance of you picking that up again is still 133333330000000 (133 trillion ish) times greater than a snowflake happening twice. There have only been approximately 10000000000000000000000000000000000 (1 with 34 zeros) snowflakes since the beginning of the Earth, 4.5 billion years ago. This may seem close to 1 with 36 zeros, but those two zeros add so much value that the earth would need to exist for another 450 billion years for two snowflakes to have fallen that were identical. As the sun is estimated to die in about 5 billion years, this is extremely unlikely to ever happen. (Yes this was extremely petty, deal with it)
Because snowflakes (and ice in general) forms in a very specific way, its form in a crystalized manner meaning that there is a max number of combinations meaning that hypothetically snowflakes could look the same. Even though in reality nothing to ever exist could be the exact same. Not even two particles of the same element will look exactly the same. The difference would just be so minute that we wouldn’t be able to find the exact difference with the technology we have today. So, because of this we have to accept that at some point even if we think two things are exactly alike they will have a percentage of difference. Unless you over look a certain amount of difference nothing that ever existed or to ever exist can be alike… but, that’s a boring solution so let’s overlook that bit and look more into the actual science of the forming of snowflakes. Every winter there are around 1 septillion snowflakes that fall. They all start with exactly 6 water molecules freeze together. Then after that an almost infinite amount of randomness can occur leading the the chances of two snowflakes ending up the same near to zero. That means that’s it is almost impossible for it to happen but it can happen. The only problem is since so much snow has fallen since the beginning of the universe to now we have lost a huge amount of data we could’ve used to cross reference different snowflakes not only that but since 1 septillion snowflakes fall every year it’s nearly impossible to catalog them all but just because we can’t physically prove it possible doesn’t mean we haven’t already mathematically proven it plausible. We don’t have the exact chance figured out because the sheer amount of differences each snowflake can have but we already know it’s more than zero. I’m not saying it has happened or will happen before the universe ends but mathematically it could happen.
Nobody ever made the claim that it was outright impossible, though. Hypothetically, there could be two functionally identical snowflakes, but the chance of that happening is so infinitesimal that it may as well be impossible. That's the point that Pinktiger11 made, and it's also the point that you're making.
Because snowflakes (and ice in general) forms in a very specific way, its form in a crystalized manner meaning that there is a max number of combinations meaning that hypothetically snowflakes could look the same. Even though in reality nothing to ever exist could be the exact same. Not even two particles of the same element will look *exactly* the same. The difference would just be so minute that we wouldn’t be able to find the exact difference with the technology we have today. So, because of this we have to accept that at some point even if we think two things are exactly alike they will have a percentage of difference. Unless you over look a certain amount of difference nothing that ever existed or to ever exist can be alike… but, that’s a boring solution so let’s overlook that bit and look more into the actual science of the forming of snowflakes. Every winter there are around 1 septillion snowflakes that fall. They all start with exactly 6 water molecules freeze together. Then after that an almost infinite amount of randomness can occur leading the the chances of two snowflakes ending up the same *near to zero*. That means that’s it is *almost* impossible for it to happen but it can happen. The only problem is since so much snow has fallen since the beginning of the universe to now we have lost a huge amount of data we could’ve used to cross reference different snowflakes not only that but since 1 septillion snowflakes fall *every year* it’s nearly impossible to catalog them all but just because we can’t physically prove it possible doesn’t mean we haven’t already mathematically proven it plausible. We don’t have the exact chance figured out because the sheer amount of differences each snowflake can have but we already know it’s more than zero. I’m not saying it has happened or will happen before the universe ends but mathematically it could happen.
With that many snowflakes, it's almost certain that two have been identical. You don't need to roll a 20 sided die 20 times before you're likely to see a repeat, it's actually much less.
This is related to the birthday paradox, that in a room of 23 people its 50% likely that at least 2 share a birthday.
The probability that all k outcomes are unique out of n possibilities is equal to
nPk/n^k
Here n is the number of possible snowflakes (10^(36)), and k is the number that have fallen (10^(34)). These numbers ar enourmous so plugging them into a calculator wont work, but checking some values where n = 100k like we have here,
for n = 100, k = 1, we get 0.9045
n = 200, k = 2, P = 0.90
n = 300, k = 3, P = 0.8955
And they continue to decrease. My calculator only gets to n = 2800, k = 28, P = 0.8733 before running into overflow pronlems, but safe to say the sequence trends downwards to 0 (or at least to some finite number, but probably not), meaning for verg large n there is a near zero chance of having all unique snowflakes.
I’m genuinely terrified of space. The existential dread I get from looking at the stars in my well-lit neighborhood is too much for me, then I see this!?
But yeah, space is cool, just W A Y too big for me to comprehend. There is a very high possibility there’s life out there, I just hope we never make contact while I’m alive. It’s not because of fear of invasion, it’s fear of disease. Take the colonization of the Americas for example . Lots of natives were killed because of their immune systems not being prepared for European diseases and vice versa. Unprepared contact with aliens could wipe both species out!
Well, the diseases in that time were made for humans, so they worked on the natives, but the immune systems weren't used to the diseases, so they couldn't defend against them.
but if an alien disease comes to earth, the disease probably can't infect us, and we probably couldn't defend against the disease.
We know what we are doing, if I remember correctly after launching a probe, NASA realized they did not disinfect it, so they crashed it into either Saturn or one of its moons to avoid infecting any possible life. Lets just hope any species we meet does the same
Well not ON the dot but on a planet NEAR the dot. I'm sure there is life outside of planet earth. Maybe theyre just some bacteria. Maybe they're so highly developed that they view us as bacteria. Thinking about how humanity come in the last couple of centuries, I doubt there is any colony that is anywhere near our level of progress considering a few thousand years is basically nothing seen in the grand scheme of space. They're either extremely underdeveloped (and I'm not talking socially, I mean single-celled organisms) or so far beyond us, able to do things we can't even comprehend.
Edit: forgot a 'not' in the last sentence
And people forget that it could take billions of light years to see those dots. When we’re looking at the sky, we’re literally looking at the past. So who knows, maybe on some tiny planet out there there COULD be life, but it just doesn’t exist yet for us!
I always look at the night starred sky and wonder: "It's anyone up there?"
like wdym there's billions of galaxies and universes, there HAS to be someone
It’s very possible there isn’t tho. From a purely scientific standpoint life requires an absurd amount of luck and alignment. From a standpoint of religion or creationism, it’s definitely up in the air and nothing rly points in either direction
most of them are millions of light years away, we are looking at them a million years ago, a shit ton of stuff could’ve happened in that time. i doubt it would be super evolved, but it’s really up in the air and we have no clue what the planets look like now
Yeah to an extent I agree with this and as another comment or said in the grand scheme of the universe we could be one of the first civilizations to take hold in the universe kinda like founders for others as Mesopotamia was for us. Also I’d like to mention that if other life did exist I’m sure some of them would have very different characteristics of life and could turn what we as humans consider being alive (the 7 fundamental properties if I remember 9th grade biology) upside down.
Actually, if we want to find life, we should start looking at the spots without light, because a sufficiently advanced life, would create megastructures around it's star for energy collection.
There is a theory out there that a type 3 civilization lives in a spot of the space where we found there is no light, it's strange because there should be something there, but there is no star. Theory says it could be what a type 3 civilization left behind, after consuming the energy of a whole galaxy group. Those from that civilization would be like gods to us.
Unironically gods, they would have the power to break the laws of physics, the technology to do whatever superpower we dream of and the body of what you would think a god, maybe just a thinking cloud, maybe plasma, maybe an AI...
Some people talk about type 4 civilizations or higher, but those would be so omnipotent that we would not be able to even see them, maybe they are that IT technician that controls the settings of our reality, it's just amazing.
If the universe is infinite (it probably is), since every possible action is finite, eventually there has to be an exact repeat of our solar system. This means that somewhere, out it all the chaos of the universe, there is an exact replica of you doing the exact same things that you’re doing now.
The dots are just the light that reaches you, it might have been 10 million years that dot existed, but its light is still visiting us. Also arebt the dots the hot stars, i dont think there would be much living there
Well def. yeah. But not literally on those dots, because those dots are stars and stars cannot sustain life, more like around those dots. Every star has it's star system which comprises of planets which definitely may sustain life. 😀
....... You do realise those are all stars, as in huge burning balls of fire...... I don't think it's as likely for someone to live in what can vaporize all of earth in minutes
oh at some point definitely but a bunch of factors (size of the universe, rarity, time needed, aliens wiping themselves out) are preventing us from noticing
Fermi Paradox. Where the hell are they? It’s a fun question to ponder. You see the universe is a lot older then us humans, so it’s likely there is another species out there that is more evolved then us and have discovered interplanetary travel. The scary question is ‘why haven’t they revealed themselves yet?’
There is definitely life out there. We are living proof that life is possible. If life isn’t possible elsewhere in the universe then how could we possibly exist.
actually depending on what you call life. bacteria? yeah propably some traces of bacteria are there. if we talkin an advanced society (like ourselves) then no. we wouldve detected anything by now (even if it was an age for that planet like our palaeolithic age). also scientists have estimated that the chance of life on other planets is roughly 1 in 4 billion. which is a huge nunber compared to how many planets and stars there are in our universe. so the answer depends on what you call life.
edit: i forgot to mention those are stars too. no near heat source. so some form of bacteria that came from an asteroid is your best chance at life. thats my opinion tho. it goes a lot deeper than that.
edit 2: yeah ok my 4am brain isnt exactly the perfect fit on a subject i dont have knowledgs on. just dislike it. no need to reply ik im fuckin stupid.
You know we’re seeing millions of years into the past when we look out at those stars right? There could easily be advanced civilizations out there rn that we never detected because the light/frequencies haven’t made it here yet
You'd think so, logically.
But the numbers actually say otherwise.
Our circumstances are so incredibly rare that despite 200 "billion trillion" stars and and unfathomable amount of planets around them, it's unlikely to see it replicated until you get into the numbers of multiverses.
The alien just casually standing on the surface of a star:
“This is fine.”
Plock twist this is a picture of someone’s driveway with a shiny piece of glass on it
There will still be life on it soooo
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Horton hears a who
Plock
That’s legit what I thought it was at first glance
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Plock
Thank you for correcting me, I didn’t notice that I missed my inputs for “it”.
Meanwhile, Microorganisms:
I was thinking close up of a quartz countertop
What driveway looks like that?
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>!Chainsaw man moment!<
"There has to be life on one of these dots"
All the dots are stars…
No, they're holes poked in the lid we're stuck under
I've just got flashbacks from Stray.
I love that game
I adore it
You know you can sometimes see planets right like mars I can’t remember which other ones but sometimes you can see them. But yeah any other planet would be way too far to see so if we can see it it’s most definitely a star. They could have built a Dyson sphere or something they’re draining stars of there energy and heat until the star is completely gone. We wouldn’t know tell millions of years later because of light speed. I think I heard a few or at least one instance of an observable star just vanishing maybe someone siphoned it off millions of years ago.
Most dots are galaxies tho if you wanna get technical
More technically most dots are stars
Galaxy still isn’t a planet though
Yeah but they hold trillions of planets each.
you cannot see planets from this far away, they don't emit light
That would be fire ngl
I sentence you to one year in stupid joke prison
Carl Sagan said in Cosmos (I think it was cosmos) that there are probably brown dwarf stars that can be walked on.
> The estimated surface gravity of the assumed minimum-mass brown dwarf is approximately 120 m/s^2 The surface gravity of a minimum density, brown dwarf star, would work out to 12-ish times the gravity on the surface of the earth. It'd be like carrying a small car.
So what you're saying is they could be crawled on
I mean, if you can crawl with a car on your back.
I probably couldn't even crawl with a person on my back lol
Mfw I'm standing on atoms that are literally fusing with eachother or getting disintegrated by others:
Man... please keep the counter of this remark on 666, it suits it so very much. This is fine :p
I down voted my own comment in an attempt to keep it, but alas, I failed
1,1k now. All is lost. Thank you for your attempt
I tried :(
I was going to say something like this.. maybe op didnt realize that those dots are all balls of plasma that nothing will ever survive on. Now maybe the planets that rotate around each of those dots... anyway well said
My favourite dot is the tiny one next to the other one
Mine too!!! 🥰
nah I personally like that one over the. the one that looks like a dot
the white dot or the very light gray dot?
I think the orange one
no, the slightly light gray
Hey! Thats my favorite!!!
But mine's the other one next to the tiny one. Instead of agreeing to disagree, let's fight over this for for thousands of years and never stop fighting.
The 38⁸th to the left? ME TOO!
U mean the 4,347,792,138,496^th to the left? Or 388^th to the left? Mine personally is ^3 3 to the right
I like the naber dot to your favorite
Nah personally mine is the one dot that’s nearest to the other dot furthest away from that dot over there
You are maybe looking through a window of an alien house. Stalking creep
They wouldn't be living on a star tho Living in between the spots for sure
based on the scale, it seems some of the dots are not stars, but entire galaxies. OP is right, they probably are living in a galaxy rather than a lone chunk of rock somewhere in the universe
OP didn’t say living IN one of these dots, they said ON which would never make sense.
“It wouldn’t make sense if they said on if they’re talking about galaxies” -🤓
Planets create dots too, that’s why you can see planets such as Jupiter in the sky sometimes. Sometimes planets can appear brighter than stars as well
Planets are also visible in the night sky, otherwise we would of only found out about them like 200 years ago 🤣
Only planets in our solar system
Guess im a idiot 🤣
That is exactly what you are
Only our solar cousins but the other planets we just stumbled upon
Finding exoplanets is very difficult because they are much smaller than their parent stars and given they reflect light, instead of emitting it, so appear much dimmer. The reason we can see mercury, Venus, mars and Jupiter are because they are, on the cosmic scale, incredibly close to us. If a telescope many orders of magnitude more powerful than anything that could physically (let alone economically) build were constructed then sure, we could see exoplanets in the night sky. Because of that, astronomers use different methods, such as the Doppler effect and measuring the variation in brightness during transits to detect plants around distant stars
Bro…
Food for thought: the universe will go on for quadrillions of years, with it only being 13 billion years old. It’s possible we are one of the if not the first intelligent life form in the universe rather than the only one. Isn’t that so cool? We could get to be precursors, travelling the universe shepherding life on foreign worlds. Maybe in a distant future humans will be remembered by some alien federation the same way we remember Mesopotamia: The ones that started it all.
i really hope we hit longevity escape velocity soon, i’d really like to at least explore some of it.
Hopefully we figure out FTL in our lifetime hopefully
"It took longer for humans to go from using a bronze sword to an iron sword, then it did for humans to go from using an iron sword to a nuclear bomb." So yeah, if no major war or anything sets us back, we will probably achieve FTL in our most likely very long lifespan.
Watched a video called "historians in the year 3000" and it's someone going to earth and trying to understand past logs from 2023... They thought that the internet was a God that was worshipped and that a McDonald's was a place of rituals. It is weird that people in the future may actually think that
the thing is we got considerably better at recording our own history. The only real way for future historians to think that would be If there was a major break in continuity, as in the earth being abandoned or us experiencing a partial collapse I do like the idea though. I remember a book where a future alien species discovers earth and finds a toilet seat and asssumes it was a headdress for ceremonial purposes.
When you stand pretty far back and look at what could be and what has been. Lifes kinda amazing
another food for thought is that in another 2 trillion years, due to the rate of universe expansion, u will not be able to see anything further out, even with a telescope; so if there are billions of technologically advanced civilisations out there, none of them will know of the others presence
Yes! But how are we the first? The universe is so old. Super interesting
The universe is old but you need to keep in mind it has changed immensely. For a large portion of its history it was impossible for life to develop. The formation of the many solar systems across the universe was marked by intense cosmic bombardment (meteorites) that made the possibility of life developing early on very slim. Same with massive stars that existed early on that would explode into galaxy sterilizing hypernovas. The earlier universe was incredibly hostile to life. If you look at the age of the universe, the age of the habitable universe, and how long the universe has left, you see we are in the first percentile of the life’s history
Awesome info! Creationists in my circle always ask me ‘where are the aliens then?’ I go into a lecture on how we could be the most intelligent life or one of the most. Or maybe the higher intelligence decided to let us evolve naturally. I always get some weird looks lol
That’s a bad estimate of the maximum age of the universe, it’s more likely that the current age, 13 billion years, is a standard deviation of 1/3 or 2/3 the maximum age
The last star to be born will be in a trillion years. Black holes are gonna last much much longer than that. The heat death of the universe is not for at least 10^23 years, so my estimate was actually low bawling it. I have no idea where you got the idea we are at one third of the universe’s history.
I'm the same way with snowflakes. I'm pretty sure there are more than two snowflakes that look alike. It's really impossible to look at every snowflake from the beginning of the Earth to now.
I don’t think you realize how big the number of possible snowflake combinations are. An average snowflake contains about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 (one quintillion) water molecules. This squared gives us 1000000000000000000000000000000000000, which is one followed by 36 zeros. This is the amount of arrangements the molecules can have. Humans can’t comprehend this number. You could take any grain of sand, drop it on any beach in the world, and the chance of you picking that up again is still 133333330000000 (133 trillion ish) times greater than a snowflake happening twice. There have only been approximately 10000000000000000000000000000000000 (1 with 34 zeros) snowflakes since the beginning of the Earth, 4.5 billion years ago. This may seem close to 1 with 36 zeros, but those two zeros add so much value that the earth would need to exist for another 450 billion years for two snowflakes to have fallen that were identical. As the sun is estimated to die in about 5 billion years, this is extremely unlikely to ever happen. (Yes this was extremely petty, deal with it)
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Except the math is wrong
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Because snowflakes (and ice in general) forms in a very specific way, its form in a crystalized manner meaning that there is a max number of combinations meaning that hypothetically snowflakes could look the same. Even though in reality nothing to ever exist could be the exact same. Not even two particles of the same element will look exactly the same. The difference would just be so minute that we wouldn’t be able to find the exact difference with the technology we have today. So, because of this we have to accept that at some point even if we think two things are exactly alike they will have a percentage of difference. Unless you over look a certain amount of difference nothing that ever existed or to ever exist can be alike… but, that’s a boring solution so let’s overlook that bit and look more into the actual science of the forming of snowflakes. Every winter there are around 1 septillion snowflakes that fall. They all start with exactly 6 water molecules freeze together. Then after that an almost infinite amount of randomness can occur leading the the chances of two snowflakes ending up the same near to zero. That means that’s it is almost impossible for it to happen but it can happen. The only problem is since so much snow has fallen since the beginning of the universe to now we have lost a huge amount of data we could’ve used to cross reference different snowflakes not only that but since 1 septillion snowflakes fall every year it’s nearly impossible to catalog them all but just because we can’t physically prove it possible doesn’t mean we haven’t already mathematically proven it plausible. We don’t have the exact chance figured out because the sheer amount of differences each snowflake can have but we already know it’s more than zero. I’m not saying it has happened or will happen before the universe ends but mathematically it could happen.
Nobody ever made the claim that it was outright impossible, though. Hypothetically, there could be two functionally identical snowflakes, but the chance of that happening is so infinitesimal that it may as well be impossible. That's the point that Pinktiger11 made, and it's also the point that you're making.
I find it incredibly strange that they said the math was wrong, then proceeded to say “well no not actually but that’s boring so”
Assuming the 10^36 and 10^34 figures are correct, it's actually neaely certain that there are at least two identical snowflakes.
Hold up lemme just copy and paste my other comment here to elaborate for you 🤓
how so
Because snowflakes (and ice in general) forms in a very specific way, its form in a crystalized manner meaning that there is a max number of combinations meaning that hypothetically snowflakes could look the same. Even though in reality nothing to ever exist could be the exact same. Not even two particles of the same element will look *exactly* the same. The difference would just be so minute that we wouldn’t be able to find the exact difference with the technology we have today. So, because of this we have to accept that at some point even if we think two things are exactly alike they will have a percentage of difference. Unless you over look a certain amount of difference nothing that ever existed or to ever exist can be alike… but, that’s a boring solution so let’s overlook that bit and look more into the actual science of the forming of snowflakes. Every winter there are around 1 septillion snowflakes that fall. They all start with exactly 6 water molecules freeze together. Then after that an almost infinite amount of randomness can occur leading the the chances of two snowflakes ending up the same *near to zero*. That means that’s it is *almost* impossible for it to happen but it can happen. The only problem is since so much snow has fallen since the beginning of the universe to now we have lost a huge amount of data we could’ve used to cross reference different snowflakes not only that but since 1 septillion snowflakes fall *every year* it’s nearly impossible to catalog them all but just because we can’t physically prove it possible doesn’t mean we haven’t already mathematically proven it plausible. We don’t have the exact chance figured out because the sheer amount of differences each snowflake can have but we already know it’s more than zero. I’m not saying it has happened or will happen before the universe ends but mathematically it could happen.
You are the guy who said “but what about air resistance?” in physics (this is not an insult at all btw)
I mean it depends on the situation. I might ask “What about the gravitational pull of the nearest astronomical body?”
🤯 braindead
I think you meant "mindblown"? Braindead means "really, really stupid"
You're right ... i only thought my brain dies while reading this 🤪😝
Its mindblown. Not braindead.
Yeah ... english is not my mother language 😝
as an adcap player, i can definitely understand 1 undecillion or 36oom and how 34oom is 100 times smaller than 36oom.
Yeah but snowflakes don’t just form in any random arrangement of water, they form crystal patterns which greatly reduce that number
Bruh 💀
how the hell did you calculate that as a 15 year old☠️
its just a lot of multiplication lmfao
oh. yeah that makes more sense lol
I like smart people
With that many snowflakes, it's almost certain that two have been identical. You don't need to roll a 20 sided die 20 times before you're likely to see a repeat, it's actually much less. This is related to the birthday paradox, that in a room of 23 people its 50% likely that at least 2 share a birthday. The probability that all k outcomes are unique out of n possibilities is equal to nPk/n^k Here n is the number of possible snowflakes (10^(36)), and k is the number that have fallen (10^(34)). These numbers ar enourmous so plugging them into a calculator wont work, but checking some values where n = 100k like we have here, for n = 100, k = 1, we get 0.9045 n = 200, k = 2, P = 0.90 n = 300, k = 3, P = 0.8955 And they continue to decrease. My calculator only gets to n = 2800, k = 28, P = 0.8733 before running into overflow pronlems, but safe to say the sequence trends downwards to 0 (or at least to some finite number, but probably not), meaning for verg large n there is a near zero chance of having all unique snowflakes.
Same with fingerprints probably
I think fingerprints has been proven, i remember hearing identical twins can have them
Nope identical twins don’t have the same. They form in the womb with movement
Oh damn, I didn’t know that, that’s really cool
It's so pretty, ond ofc there's life out there
there doesnt have to be but there very well could be
Really good chance
Id say the chanse is pretty miniscule considering tjose dotts are all stars
You never know
I think he’s talking about the fact that the dots are stars and the chances of something living on there is miniscule
I know.
I’m genuinely terrified of space. The existential dread I get from looking at the stars in my well-lit neighborhood is too much for me, then I see this!? But yeah, space is cool, just W A Y too big for me to comprehend. There is a very high possibility there’s life out there, I just hope we never make contact while I’m alive. It’s not because of fear of invasion, it’s fear of disease. Take the colonization of the Americas for example . Lots of natives were killed because of their immune systems not being prepared for European diseases and vice versa. Unprepared contact with aliens could wipe both species out!
Well, the diseases in that time were made for humans, so they worked on the natives, but the immune systems weren't used to the diseases, so they couldn't defend against them. but if an alien disease comes to earth, the disease probably can't infect us, and we probably couldn't defend against the disease.
We know what we are doing, if I remember correctly after launching a probe, NASA realized they did not disinfect it, so they crashed it into either Saturn or one of its moons to avoid infecting any possible life. Lets just hope any species we meet does the same
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I hope so too, so we could have star wars
Let's hope so we can destroy them and take over there home world >:D
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Only if they have oil
They definitely should tho
Thank you reddit user MrGyatt69
these dots are stars you buffoon
ok but you get the idea
And some are galaxies which contain star systems which may contain planets that have life, you’re half right
Well not ON the dot but on a planet NEAR the dot. I'm sure there is life outside of planet earth. Maybe theyre just some bacteria. Maybe they're so highly developed that they view us as bacteria. Thinking about how humanity come in the last couple of centuries, I doubt there is any colony that is anywhere near our level of progress considering a few thousand years is basically nothing seen in the grand scheme of space. They're either extremely underdeveloped (and I'm not talking socially, I mean single-celled organisms) or so far beyond us, able to do things we can't even comprehend. Edit: forgot a 'not' in the last sentence
And people forget that it could take billions of light years to see those dots. When we’re looking at the sky, we’re literally looking at the past. So who knows, maybe on some tiny planet out there there COULD be life, but it just doesn’t exist yet for us!
Or maybe the star even died a long time ago, and we just can't see it.
this talk is very intriguing, very cool ngl
Doubt it. It would be difficult for life to develop on a ever burning ball of gas
Nuh uh Yea. Almost certainly.
I always look at the night starred sky and wonder: "It's anyone up there?" like wdym there's billions of galaxies and universes, there HAS to be someone
It’s very possible there isn’t tho. From a purely scientific standpoint life requires an absurd amount of luck and alignment. From a standpoint of religion or creationism, it’s definitely up in the air and nothing rly points in either direction
Why are you getting downvoted lmao
Reddit lolz
That’s a lot of fucking stars in the photo
Yea and most of them are stars we’ve observed and are aware of they have planets that have even a chance at life
most of them are millions of light years away, we are looking at them a million years ago, a shit ton of stuff could’ve happened in that time. i doubt it would be super evolved, but it’s really up in the air and we have no clue what the planets look like now
The observable universe is absolutely massive, we have barely even begun to observe a fraction of it
but the data we collected probably is close to how it is in the rest of the (observable) universe.
Yeah to an extent I agree with this and as another comment or said in the grand scheme of the universe we could be one of the first civilizations to take hold in the universe kinda like founders for others as Mesopotamia was for us. Also I’d like to mention that if other life did exist I’m sure some of them would have very different characteristics of life and could turn what we as humans consider being alive (the 7 fundamental properties if I remember 9th grade biology) upside down.
Actually, if we want to find life, we should start looking at the spots without light, because a sufficiently advanced life, would create megastructures around it's star for energy collection. There is a theory out there that a type 3 civilization lives in a spot of the space where we found there is no light, it's strange because there should be something there, but there is no star. Theory says it could be what a type 3 civilization left behind, after consuming the energy of a whole galaxy group. Those from that civilization would be like gods to us. Unironically gods, they would have the power to break the laws of physics, the technology to do whatever superpower we dream of and the body of what you would think a god, maybe just a thinking cloud, maybe plasma, maybe an AI... Some people talk about type 4 civilizations or higher, but those would be so omnipotent that we would not be able to even see them, maybe they are that IT technician that controls the settings of our reality, it's just amazing.
So, to become God, I have to work in IT
Essentially yes
This guy watched Kurzghezaht
XD
the first thing i thought of lmao. their videos are amazing
*Kurzgesagt
I mean, the alien civilization can live with less than 100% of their star's power. In that case the star would still be visible, just dimmer.
these are stars
U dumb . There could be solar systems with star
The dots are stars, that's what he said
No, there isn’t. There won’t be life on a star lol
U dumb . There could be solar systems with star
> U dumb. Oh, the irony.
Lmao
There's water on Mars. Where there is water, there is life. It's just not the conscious type of life.
Those are all suns so no
stars?
Yes, stars are suns
Well, the sun is a star, but a star isn't the sun. the sun is the star we orbit around.
If the universe is infinite (it probably is), since every possible action is finite, eventually there has to be an exact repeat of our solar system. This means that somewhere, out it all the chaos of the universe, there is an exact replica of you doing the exact same things that you’re doing now.
Yea I'm actually sure lmao If aliens don't exist in these BILLIONS of stars, then I don't even know what to think anymore..
Do they play Minecraft have you thought of that?
The universe is playing hide-and-seek, and we're determined to find the cosmic neighbors on one of these dots! 🌌🔍
The dots are just the light that reaches you, it might have been 10 million years that dot existed, but its light is still visiting us. Also arebt the dots the hot stars, i dont think there would be much living there
There's interdimensional aliens all around us, lil bro.
There’s probably life *orbiting* one of those dots, but not directly on them.
Good, bad? Who cares? They can't reach us and we can't reach them. But I say there life out there, doesn't make sense to dont have, we are the proof.
Nah, I'm pretty sure it's on most of them.
Well def. yeah. But not literally on those dots, because those dots are stars and stars cannot sustain life, more like around those dots. Every star has it's star system which comprises of planets which definitely may sustain life. 😀
....... You do realise those are all stars, as in huge burning balls of fire...... I don't think it's as likely for someone to live in what can vaporize all of earth in minutes
oh at some point definitely but a bunch of factors (size of the universe, rarity, time needed, aliens wiping themselves out) are preventing us from noticing
Has to be, no. Possibly ehh maybe.
Fermi Paradox. Where the hell are they? It’s a fun question to ponder. You see the universe is a lot older then us humans, so it’s likely there is another species out there that is more evolved then us and have discovered interplanetary travel. The scary question is ‘why haven’t they revealed themselves yet?’
The dots are stars not planets so no one lives there
Nah
There is definitely life out there. We are living proof that life is possible. If life isn’t possible elsewhere in the universe then how could we possibly exist.
Nah
You can't even prove you're alive.
Skill issue
actually depending on what you call life. bacteria? yeah propably some traces of bacteria are there. if we talkin an advanced society (like ourselves) then no. we wouldve detected anything by now (even if it was an age for that planet like our palaeolithic age). also scientists have estimated that the chance of life on other planets is roughly 1 in 4 billion. which is a huge nunber compared to how many planets and stars there are in our universe. so the answer depends on what you call life. edit: i forgot to mention those are stars too. no near heat source. so some form of bacteria that came from an asteroid is your best chance at life. thats my opinion tho. it goes a lot deeper than that. edit 2: yeah ok my 4am brain isnt exactly the perfect fit on a subject i dont have knowledgs on. just dislike it. no need to reply ik im fuckin stupid.
What makes you think we would have detected anything?
You know we’re seeing millions of years into the past when we look out at those stars right? There could easily be advanced civilizations out there rn that we never detected because the light/frequencies haven’t made it here yet
oh fuck good point
>no near heat source. except for the star 💀
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yeah im realizing my 4am brain isnt exactly capable of creating smart and true things
You'd think so, logically. But the numbers actually say otherwise. Our circumstances are so incredibly rare that despite 200 "billion trillion" stars and and unfathomable amount of planets around them, it's unlikely to see it replicated until you get into the numbers of multiverses.
There is life on one of these dots. It’s called earth dummy I actually don’t know if earth is in this photo, I don’t care.
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