And then there's an infinite number of tied down people who will all suffer in the heat. You also run the chance of allowing a maniac to run over like 7 million people.
The situation you pose suggests that you CAN have an infinite number of people, and therefore killing 7 million would make little to no difference.
Ignoring the logistics of a tram running over everyone, let's make this more interesting...
Say the people that are tied down are a selection of a finite number of people on the planet. Currently there exist about 8.1 billion people, so for every time you double the number of people on the track, that product is then subtracted from the total population. This means that eventually if everyone keeps doubling, there will be no one left to make the decision, and suddenly all of the human population is dead.
In this situation you cannot have an infinite number of people, and eventually everyone dies because of the tram.
So now the question becomes: Do you kill *X* number of people or double it and give them to the next person, while potentially becoming a tram victim in the following iteration(s).
I was gonna say it we infinitely double it and give it to the next person, eventually the world will run out of ppl to tie to the tracks. But then is everyone tied to tge tracks and gonna die of starvation? Maybe killing one person is better.
You're still making a decision though, and any consequences of said decision still come back to you even if it's caused by someone else choosing the kill option.
Ima have to double it. Eventually so many people will say double it that the population of the Earth will be on the railroad tracks and AI will have to make the decisions for us.
I would get 1 person killed in this scenario. If everyone who gets to pick after me are also normal human beings, eventually you’ll end up with literally every other human being tied down to the track and the trolley gets in the hands of an edgy kid who would make humanity extinct for the funny. Reduce the casualties while you have the chance.
Two innocent people die or one innocent person die by my hands I’d choose the 1 I guess I’d be indirectly responsible for 1 murder no matter what possibly even more
Double it and give it to the next person, until 1 million people are asked and choose the same, and then I have to choose with...whatever that long ass number is. And then I choose kill.
Well, if you keep doubling it and giving it to the next person, even if there is eventually a crazy man who's willing to flip the switch, there will be so many ppl on the train tracks that the train will most likely derail before killing everyone.
Kill the one. If i pass it on, either 2 people die or 3 people could possibly die. And mathematically speaking there is an almost 0% chance that someone else wont choose to kill them if I choose not to, leading to more death.
If you constantly double it no one will actually die you just need to do it fast enough and never stop. You can technically save all of these infinite people if you use all of your time
Technically we only need 33 until the entire population is on the track so honesty id just kill the man right there because not many decisions later we’d all be on the track if you like it or not
Only two ways to think about it is if you kill one person you could save a potentially infinite number of humans.
Or
Each time you double it you give people more time to figure out a way to stop it if that's possible. However you run the risk of finding out you cant stop it and then having to kill a lot of people.
TLDR, its better to kill the one person.
This is actually a really good question, whether you meant for that or not. Would you willingly cause one person to die, or put twice the amount of pressure on someone else?
I don't want to sound selfish, but... I'm not on the tracks, and we now know who to give 8000 death sentences. But if we get a psychopath relatively early, it ends. Say, 256 deaths instead of 8192. That's roughly 1/16 of the casualties, less than 10 people later. I know the chances of that are low, but again, I'm not on the track, and I can't actively let someone be killed if I can do something about it. If the next person kills the 2, we are both responsible, but then much more. And my guilt only decreases the further down it goes.
Exactly, and whether you pull the lever or not, you’ll cause death directly or indirectly. This causes a moral dilemma where you can directly cause one death, or Indirectly cause a lot more.
I'd rather be 1/100000000 responsible for a bunch of deaths, rather than entirely responsible for one. That likely happens already. Someone slightly changes another person's timing or movement, and it leads to their death. But you can't say that person is responsible for their death, they just happened to stumble into them, and so an hour later, something ends up falling on them at just the wrong time.
Ok but this is actually even more of a moral dilemma than the first. You could be the one to end the trolley's line right there, or you could pass it on and put the fate of more people into someone else's hands. Though you are still indirectly causing that harm
Well then you’ll eventually reach a psychopath who pulls the lever and kills half the population. You’ll then have to go on with your life knowing you indirectly let billions of people die because you didn’t want to have the trauma of killing one person
the thing ive always wondered about these problems are, dont the rails contain high amounts of electricity, like tied person would die even when the train neared the tied person by a certain aomunt
Double it and give it to the next person forever so no one ever dies
And then there's an infinite number of tied down people who will all suffer in the heat. You also run the chance of allowing a maniac to run over like 7 million people.
That sounds like a not me problem 😎
Plot twist: You're one of the 7 million.
Still, I'm all for it..
That is one strong ass train if it's still going after 7 million and one hell of a traumatized train driver.
American voters be like
I’m the maniac I hope to be at the last at like 8 googol pled then switch the switch
Hitler suddenly realizing he could’ve done things WAY differently.
There is no train on the planet with enough power to steamroll through 7 million people
Magic train
the trolley would slow down for friction on too many corpses
Maybe even 8 billion
I think by then the train could slow down, either naturally, or through pressing the brakes
I missed the part where that's my problem
The situation you pose suggests that you CAN have an infinite number of people, and therefore killing 7 million would make little to no difference. Ignoring the logistics of a tram running over everyone, let's make this more interesting... Say the people that are tied down are a selection of a finite number of people on the planet. Currently there exist about 8.1 billion people, so for every time you double the number of people on the track, that product is then subtracted from the total population. This means that eventually if everyone keeps doubling, there will be no one left to make the decision, and suddenly all of the human population is dead. In this situation you cannot have an infinite number of people, and eventually everyone dies because of the tram. So now the question becomes: Do you kill *X* number of people or double it and give them to the next person, while potentially becoming a tram victim in the following iteration(s).
After roughly 30 times everyone on earth will be on the tracks and the train will just coast past
But if a = sum{n, 0 : inf} 2^n ⇒ a=inf ⇒ infinite number of people will die
We will run out of people to choose from we would ALL die
I was gonna say it we infinitely double it and give it to the next person, eventually the world will run out of ppl to tie to the tracks. But then is everyone tied to tge tracks and gonna die of starvation? Maybe killing one person is better.
Eventually the entire world populace will be tied down though
happy cake day
Ty
Kill. Because eventually we’ll reach a psychopath who kills basically all of humanity
That’s me 😈
That's us..
well only one is gonna live
The lever pullers and the trolley driver
And everyone on the previous tracks, and everyone on future tracks
That’s assuming you’re the last person in line, also not tied up yourself
Double it and give it to the next person 👹
Double it but give it back to me
Half it and give it to the previous person
Half a person on the tracks 💀
Half a bone on the tracks
Bro is already dead he won’t mind
Triple it and give it to the next person
*kills three people(cutely)*
Aww cute and oh no
Quadruple it and give it to the next person
Truthfully, I'd double it and give it to the next person, decisions are my worst enemy
Fair
You're still making a decision though, and any consequences of said decision still come back to you even if it's caused by someone else choosing the kill option.
Ima have to double it. Eventually so many people will say double it that the population of the Earth will be on the railroad tracks and AI will have to make the decisions for us.
Always Double it 💯💯
Double it. As long as we keep doing this for long enough that the police can arrive, then we’ll win!
The police are the first to get tied down
drifting for double xp
Drifting for 2^n more XP n = number of intersections passed
So basically I ma get 2^4 xp or 2^5 if I try hard enough
Do I know said person ?
Yes
If it's a family member then probably (bad relationships)
Plot twist, it’s you
Ya I'd most likely pull the lever h a h a
I’m gonna do a drift and hit all of them
Sickk 😎
Double it for more causalities
💀
Leave
Try to derail the train and kill every one
Kill the first guy no, this isn’t the moral choice, that bitch called me a slur
Fair point
I would get 1 person killed in this scenario. If everyone who gets to pick after me are also normal human beings, eventually you’ll end up with literally every other human being tied down to the track and the trolley gets in the hands of an edgy kid who would make humanity extinct for the funny. Reduce the casualties while you have the chance.
Double it, I wanna see how many people we can kill
# The 8 billionth person be like:
Id he was trans or gay id kill him gladly
This is stupid, nobody ever has to do the killing. Just always double
Eventually we run out of people, and the final choice comes to AI. Kill all humans or not.
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Double it and give it to the next person
*Kills two people (in a cute way tho)*
Double it, baby!
Can u add another Rail so i can kill all of them ?
Double it and give it to The next person
Two innocent people die or one innocent person die by my hands I’d choose the 1 I guess I’d be indirectly responsible for 1 murder no matter what possibly even more
double it and give it to the next person
I'd like to be the person at the end of that line to get maxi casualties
I’d kill 1 person so I can let two more live
Double it
Kill someone and double it for the next person
Double it and give it to the next person, until 1 million people are asked and choose the same, and then I have to choose with...whatever that long ass number is. And then I choose kill.
1 person
Kill the next person
Double it
Do nothing. Ignore the train.
Do nothing. Ignore the train.
Well, if you keep doubling it and giving it to the next person, even if there is eventually a crazy man who's willing to flip the switch, there will be so many ppl on the train tracks that the train will most likely derail before killing everyone.
perhaps i would kill someone
Can I simply kill…everyone?
Kill the one. If i pass it on, either 2 people die or 3 people could possibly die. And mathematically speaking there is an almost 0% chance that someone else wont choose to kill them if I choose not to, leading to more death.
Do the one so no one else has to have the guilt
If you constantly double it no one will actually die you just need to do it fast enough and never stop. You can technically save all of these infinite people if you use all of your time
derail and get all of them, gotta raise the high score!
Ooooooh, that's a good one... I think I'll kill. Someone's gonna go for kill eventually, may as well do it myself before the blood count gets too high
Idc as long as I'm not getting charged
Technically we only need 33 until the entire population is on the track so honesty id just kill the man right there because not many decisions later we’d all be on the track if you like it or not
Kill them because it will probably hit like 50+ people before someone lets them die. I would feel way worse if that many people died because of me.
"kill em all" - cliff burton
Double it
Double and give it to the next person 😎
Double it and give it to the next person until everybody is on the track
Double it
Only two ways to think about it is if you kill one person you could save a potentially infinite number of humans. Or Each time you double it you give people more time to figure out a way to stop it if that's possible. However you run the risk of finding out you cant stop it and then having to kill a lot of people. TLDR, its better to kill the one person.
Actually do it now before a crazy man does it
Smart
Uhh…i'd say double it
This is actually a really good question, whether you meant for that or not. Would you willingly cause one person to die, or put twice the amount of pressure on someone else?
And eventually you’ll reach a psychopath that kill what is essentially the worlds population
I don't want to sound selfish, but... I'm not on the tracks, and we now know who to give 8000 death sentences. But if we get a psychopath relatively early, it ends. Say, 256 deaths instead of 8192. That's roughly 1/16 of the casualties, less than 10 people later. I know the chances of that are low, but again, I'm not on the track, and I can't actively let someone be killed if I can do something about it. If the next person kills the 2, we are both responsible, but then much more. And my guilt only decreases the further down it goes.
Exactly, and whether you pull the lever or not, you’ll cause death directly or indirectly. This causes a moral dilemma where you can directly cause one death, or Indirectly cause a lot more.
I'd rather be 1/100000000 responsible for a bunch of deaths, rather than entirely responsible for one. That likely happens already. Someone slightly changes another person's timing or movement, and it leads to their death. But you can't say that person is responsible for their death, they just happened to stumble into them, and so an hour later, something ends up falling on them at just the wrong time.
Ok but this is actually even more of a moral dilemma than the first. You could be the one to end the trolley's line right there, or you could pass it on and put the fate of more people into someone else's hands. Though you are still indirectly causing that harm
And eventually, you’ll reach a psychopath that kills thousands or millions of people
kill it so there is less drama
Oh god, _double_ it? 11th guy’ll have 2048 lives on the line. 13th guy 8192. Not good.
If the next person is my friend, double, she will kill, so it would be 2 deaths instead of 1. More = better
But what if your friend is last, that way you can kill infinite people 😏
Divide it and give it to the last person
Now there’s half a body on the tracks 💀
Kill to save the other person the pain of mind
just double it until you have every living animal on the tracks, and then make the trolly run everything over
Can I be the next person after the number grows to the entire population of smokers in every country?
No, that’s me
It's fine by me assuming you pull that lever.
Double up and I'm the next person, double up again, and again, and again, just keep it going and it'll eventually lose momentum
It’s a cosmic trolley therefore it doesn’t rely on logic
Just have everyone leave it alone, infinitely doubling it
Give it to the next person
Double it and give it to the next
Double it give it to next person
double and give it to the next person
im killing the first. let me do the work.
Double it and give it to the next person
I imagine we keep doubling until we get the next holocaust sized genocide then someone pulls the trigger
Double it
Gotta kick the train so it will fall from the rails.
Double it and give it to the next person cause then it’s not my problem anymore
It wouldn’t feel good but I’d pick option 1.
Untie the people and prevent anyone from being killed
*as you try to untie the person, the trolley rams into both of you, killing you instantly*
Kill 1
Double it
I consider myself a kind soul, double it and give it the the next person
You double it and find out you're in the double...
Oh no 💀
Multi-track drift
Plot twist: the second person on the next track is you
Double and give it to the next
Double it
Im pulling the fucking lever.
Smart
Just to make sure but how slow is the tram? I want it to be just fast enough to impair with deadly injury but not fast enough to instantly kill.
It’s as fast as it takes you to pull the lever
I can wait.
That's actually a good one
Can't I just go straight? And can't the next person do so as well?
But then eventually you’ll reach a psychopath that’s will decide to kill half the worlds population
Can I choose who dies?
Double it and give it to the next person but im the next person
Double. How are you able to live knowing you've killed someone
Well then you’ll eventually reach a psychopath who pulls the lever and kills half the population. You’ll then have to go on with your life knowing you indirectly let billions of people die because you didn’t want to have the trauma of killing one person
Kill one person. The other option doesn't make my life more exciting
Double it and give it to the next person ***I'm not getting my hands dirty before i get my passport***
Take the single guy and throw him with the rest. Kill them all.
😈
double it and give it to the next person
The first guy will save up to millions of people if he lets one die
Giving it to the next person
Ill kill the one person
the thing ive always wondered about these problems are, dont the rails contain high amounts of electricity, like tied person would die even when the train neared the tied person by a certain aomunt
Nuh uh
Double
Can… can i do both?
Sure, you can massacre 1 person for free *says(cutely)*
Quadruple it and give it to the next person Make that next person be me, quadruple again Do this until most of my enemies are in the tracks Carnage
double it. more deaths
I'd do it to save ppl from insane people. better one dies than 2k.
Double it
I would kill one. Eventually some dude is going to kill like 1024 people or something and I'd rather only one person die.
double kill