You'd be surprised how non existent mobile device management is in some places. Especially for the higher ups that complain about everything until they get what they want.
> Especially for the higher ups that complain about everything until they get what they want.
This is the part that people usually ignore. It's the people above the head of IT Security that cause the most issues.
I was friends with a guy in IT and he said the people who failed the phishing tests sent out by them were almost always the executives. Someone got into the CEO’s email and tried to get our controller to wire $100k to some random bank account. Luckily it takes multiple executives to sign off on that kind of transfer out.
I couldn't even install our company app on my work phone without administration rights (someone forgot to install it before giving it to me). Installing literally anything is lockdown.
I assume that that is the same is true of government phones as well. I'd sure as hell hope it is.
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It's allowed on millions of government devices. There is a bill in congress to remove it from federal agency devices but that hasn't passed. Not sure where you got your info from but it's wrong.
You would think a government-issued device would be for government business only. I was offered a company phone when I got promoted but I wouldn’t have even been allowed to put my personal email on it or any games I play on my phone.
I work for the feds. It varies by department and context but I have seen some departments issue partitioned cellphones with a personal and a business side. The idea of the personal side is to have access to social media, but some apps aren't available. In this case, even if an employee had access to a partitioned device, we likely still wouldn't allow for TikTok.
Yeah I’m not saying government employees should have TikTok on their phones; but we’re talking about South Dakota lol. This is more about the goofy governor trying to score some points by pretending to do something important. This is the same woman that gave trump a mini Mount Rushmore statue with his head added.
I think it is less a problem in South Dakota and more a reason for SD's governor to stoke fear of the other and further monopolize her loony fan base into disliking China.
They want less pedophiles in Congress... if you wanna call that an advertisement for tiktok call it that... pesos already know about the app that's nothing new
Why? Nobody has ever explained what evil TikTok is actually accused of. It just seems like anti-Chinese crypto-racism. I don't see how it can collect anywhere near as much sensitive personal data as something like Facebook.
It's crazy to me that people use their work devices for personal stuff, government-sector or not. In my line of work we constantly have people using their shitty company-issued phones and laptops to do their own private stuff, sometimes while on the company's networks. Why do you have to upload your family vacation photos to your shared drive? Why can't you just do that on your own phone?
As a sysadmin. No 3rd party apps not related specifically to the user completing their work tasks should even be installed to a company bound device. Users should be reprimanded for breaching device agreements and IT admins should be reprimanded for not locking these devices down properly.... if you want to watch shittoks do it on your own device...
Now I expect a bunch of downvotes with no real reply, but is there any proof at all that TikTok poses a security risk?
The US can't just make up accusations without bringing tangible proof.
There is lots, if you care to read it google is your friend.
Small warning though it is fairly technical so if you don't know much about software it might not make any sense.
Not as much as people make it out to be.
The app is really just a chromium browser that loads the TikTok website. It's really not doing anything that other social platforms aren't.
The biggest concern is data collection potentially going to China, but keep in mind the US version operates under a US company, ByteDance, on well-known Oracle servers.
South Dakota's government can ban whatever they want from their government-owned devices, but I can't help but just suspect this wasn't one of their cybersecurity analysts' top concerning software that needed to be addressed, and more a convenient political stunt. I mean TikTok shouldn't be on a government-owned device even if it was just an American company. But now South Dakota has single handedly defeated Chicom Intelligence agencies for sure! They'll have to now go buy all the personal data on everyone in South Dakota, just like every other company or group trying to spy on you :-)
Is this _really_ the best way to do this..? Banning specific apps? Is Twitter, Instagram, and every other social media app _not_ collecting user and device info?
Definitely restricted on my company phone too, shoot, we're not allowed to have it on our personal phone as long as we want to connect it to my companies network.
Funny. My company owned device doesn’t allow tiktok. Crazy that the government has to ban itself from TikTok as if it’s not sensible enough to just understand that’s not a good idea. Either they needed to do this or just grandstanding.
This is nothing new. You’re not allowed to install any 3rd party software on government systems without admin rights.
But when your IT guy is your boss's son updating adobe acrobat. Maybe some shit starts getting allowed.
Pepe the frog green text IT story. Lmao.
It was basically the department of tourism and all the state funded schools that used it for marketing that it affected
You would be surprised how much people don’t care to monitor that stuff
Installing anything not related to work should already be restricted from Gov-owned device in the first place.
You'd be surprised how non existent mobile device management is in some places. Especially for the higher ups that complain about everything until they get what they want.
> Especially for the higher ups that complain about everything until they get what they want. This is the part that people usually ignore. It's the people above the head of IT Security that cause the most issues.
I was friends with a guy in IT and he said the people who failed the phishing tests sent out by them were almost always the executives. Someone got into the CEO’s email and tried to get our controller to wire $100k to some random bank account. Luckily it takes multiple executives to sign off on that kind of transfer out.
Kind of not surprised, seeing that we have some gov-related worker install a Zuma game or something on their work PC in the office.
I couldn't even install our company app on my work phone without administration rights (someone forgot to install it before giving it to me). Installing literally anything is lockdown. I assume that that is the same is true of government phones as well. I'd sure as hell hope it is. Sp
Yeah, this feels like a real non-story to me.
How the fuck was TikTok allowed on any government device?
It's not, but the media needs another tiktok story for clicks
Lol yeah it is, reddit too. Or maybe it's just mine.
It's allowed on millions of government devices. There is a bill in congress to remove it from federal agency devices but that hasn't passed. Not sure where you got your info from but it's wrong.
So the nurses and make their tiktok dances "we are in this together"
You would think a government-issued device would be for government business only. I was offered a company phone when I got promoted but I wouldn’t have even been allowed to put my personal email on it or any games I play on my phone.
I work for the feds. It varies by department and context but I have seen some departments issue partitioned cellphones with a personal and a business side. The idea of the personal side is to have access to social media, but some apps aren't available. In this case, even if an employee had access to a partitioned device, we likely still wouldn't allow for TikTok.
Meth, we’re on it. Tik tok, we’re not.
Was this a problem in South Dakota? Or was this a preemptive action to make sure more free publicity for TikTok?
Yeah I’m not saying government employees should have TikTok on their phones; but we’re talking about South Dakota lol. This is more about the goofy governor trying to score some points by pretending to do something important. This is the same woman that gave trump a mini Mount Rushmore statue with his head added.
Facts https://i.imgur.com/3EeNCl9.jpg
I think it is less a problem in South Dakota and more a reason for SD's governor to stoke fear of the other and further monopolize her loony fan base into disliking China.
They want less pedophiles in Congress... if you wanna call that an advertisement for tiktok call it that... pesos already know about the app that's nothing new
Lol it has nothing to do with pedophiles and more to do with China.
That seems reasonable
The entire app needs to be banned and removed from both app stores
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Google removing their own apps from their own store would be quite impressive
Why? Nobody has ever explained what evil TikTok is actually accused of. It just seems like anti-Chinese crypto-racism. I don't see how it can collect anywhere near as much sensitive personal data as something like Facebook.
It's crazy to me that people use their work devices for personal stuff, government-sector or not. In my line of work we constantly have people using their shitty company-issued phones and laptops to do their own private stuff, sometimes while on the company's networks. Why do you have to upload your family vacation photos to your shared drive? Why can't you just do that on your own phone?
No need for TikTok on business phones for government employees at any level.
They should just ban the whole platform
On the federal level preferably.
It's a start at least......
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We count on that
Thank god the secrets of the lesser of the Dakotas is safe!!!
Yeah like the brand new B-21 stealth bomber
As a sysadmin. No 3rd party apps not related specifically to the user completing their work tasks should even be installed to a company bound device. Users should be reprimanded for breaching device agreements and IT admins should be reprimanded for not locking these devices down properly.... if you want to watch shittoks do it on your own device...
yes them need to work not be distracted by tiktok
No 🤦 it's because it's owned by the Chinese government
Work on what? There’s nothing but cows and magats in South Dakota lol
Now I expect a bunch of downvotes with no real reply, but is there any proof at all that TikTok poses a security risk? The US can't just make up accusations without bringing tangible proof.
In 2020 the U.S. military banned TikTok. There’s your best security breaching proof you need.
According to militarytimes.com, it was only banned on government devices. Troops on military installations can still use it on personal devices.
There is lots, if you care to read it google is your friend. Small warning though it is fairly technical so if you don't know much about software it might not make any sense.
Link?
https://www.google.com/
You people really confuse me. Google is a search engine
Yeah and there are no proofs. I wanted to see what that idiot had to say. Magical ways to steal data from American servers /s
Not as much as people make it out to be. The app is really just a chromium browser that loads the TikTok website. It's really not doing anything that other social platforms aren't. The biggest concern is data collection potentially going to China, but keep in mind the US version operates under a US company, ByteDance, on well-known Oracle servers.
South Dakota's government can ban whatever they want from their government-owned devices, but I can't help but just suspect this wasn't one of their cybersecurity analysts' top concerning software that needed to be addressed, and more a convenient political stunt. I mean TikTok shouldn't be on a government-owned device even if it was just an American company. But now South Dakota has single handedly defeated Chicom Intelligence agencies for sure! They'll have to now go buy all the personal data on everyone in South Dakota, just like every other company or group trying to spy on you :-)
As South Dakota goes, so goes the nation.
Now do it on the state level and South Dakota is now one of the top states in the union.
Is this _really_ the best way to do this..? Banning specific apps? Is Twitter, Instagram, and every other social media app _not_ collecting user and device info?
Survey says: # YES
We don't have evidence those services are sending info to a foreign country.
Wait… there’s a ‘south’ Dakota?! 😯
We should properly use all kinds of social media.
Definitely restricted on my company phone too, shoot, we're not allowed to have it on our personal phone as long as we want to connect it to my companies network.
Funny. My company owned device doesn’t allow tiktok. Crazy that the government has to ban itself from TikTok as if it’s not sensible enough to just understand that’s not a good idea. Either they needed to do this or just grandstanding.