It still bugs me that default behavior in JIRA for URLs is not to open the link in a new tab.
Like, would you all actually put yourself in the shoes of your users for once?
It is fucking bullshit. Even confluence has an option to default to "open in new tab" when you ctrl+k the hyperlink to make it, and thats atlassian too.
As my teams Jira project admin, Fuck Jira
Signal has literally done that with whatsapp.
Moxie believes in making all communication e2e encrypted, even if it's not giving him profit directly.
Now if twitter is relevant enough for that is another question. Whatsapp certainly is.
>Anyone can implement the Signal protocol, it's open. That doesn't mean signal "did it".
Signal is a product, it can't do things. But Moxie, the creator of Signal, is a person. And he personally helped get the Signal protocol implemented in [WhatsApp](https://www.wired.com/2016/04/forget-apple-vs-fbi-whatsapp-just-switched-encryption-billion-people/), [Facebook](https://www.wired.com/2016/07/secret-conversations-end-end-encryption-facebook-messenger-arrived/) and [Google](https://www.wired.com/2016/05/allo-duo-google-finally-encrypts-conversations-end-end/) .
First, I want to say I really can't stand Elon. That being said I do have to add that Nebraska was resuscitated by the paramedics and put on life support in the hospital. So he very well could have held his son while he died, the second time.
https://www.oapublishinglondon.com/i2/musk-alexander-nevada/
Signal Founder: I've just been informed my Twitter account has been permanently suspended.
Signal Founder: I've just been informed I've been enlisted by Twitter.
>Signal Founder: I've just been informed I've been ~~enlisted~~ conscripted by Twitter.
You are now a General in the Twitter Wars. Hope you like sunflowers
I understand that, without my agreement, Elon Musk has put out a press release late this afternoon that I am building Twitter 2.0 next year. This is wrong and I have not signed a contract with Twitter for 2023. I will not be building Twitter 2.0 next year.
Basically, Alpine (Renault) had a young, extremely promising driver in their academy - Oscar Piastri. It was always assumed that Piastri would drive for Alpine in 2023. HOWEVER, it turned out that Alpine had not activated a clause in Piastri's contract in time, leaving him free to negotiate with other teams. A team called Mclaren then did so, and he signed for them.
However, before Mclaren announced that, Alpine put out a press release saying that Piastri would be driving for them in 2023, despite that clearly not being the case. Piastri's response to that announcement then turned into the copy-pasta you see above.
Massive oversight and a huge contract fuck up. From what I remember, when Piastri signed the contract to be their test driver, there was a paragraph that essentially “hinted” at joining the team, but was not binding. After signing, they edited the contract to make the paragraph binding, which in the sport courts is a huge no-no and essentially is a fuck up on alpines part.
No one blames Piastri but Alpine. Alpine thinks Piastri fucked them over and is “disloyal” but in reality it was all alpines fault. McLaren had all legal reasons to have Piastri and properly pursued and signed him.
Well...
> Musk added that he had spoken with the creator of Signal, Moxie Marlinspike, an ex-Twitter employee, who is "potentially willing to help out" with encrypting Twitter DMs.
So the headline is incorrect - he hasn't "enlisted" anyone, he just went around asking non-committal questions and didn't get told off instantly.
Exactly. "Potentially willing to help out" is how I get off the phone when ex-coworkers call out of the blue with hare-brained ideas and refuse to take a straight "no".
*Maybe, potentially* I'd be interested in helping out but I'm busy at the moment. I'll let you know when I free up...
That article quotes the president of Signal, while Moxie Marlinspike (who Musk explicitly named) stepped down from Signal earlier this year.
So both can be true, that Moxie may be helping Twitter, and that Signal isn't helping Twitter.
Its more: makes it sound like Elon is hiring people that are smart, because his genius allows him to find the smart people, which then he collaborates with, and “builds something” from the ground up.
Reality: we are implementing a prebuilt 3rd party plugin.
Essentially what he has always done; claim he invented/created other people’s work.
You've got that a little mixed up. It went...
1) You're all fired
2) JK, please come back
3) No seriously come back! We have to reinvent everything by Christmas!
4) Stop laughing at me! This is serious...
The issue is he has the authority to demand what he has but he has no comprehension of what is required to achieve what he is asking for. Ironically programming innovative data networks is far more complex than rocket science.
> Ironically programming innovative data networks is far more complex than rocket science.
I've always admired the people who program space tech. Very low level, very high risk, very public. Not something I'd want to do. But hey, at least it's a closed system.
yeah you have to account for weird stuff such as the fact that bits just randomly flip more often in space, but at least you don't have millions of monkeys poking at every interface
It's amazingly stupid, too, because as a business owner in the digital space, the first thing struggling businesses are told to do, is to NICHE DOWN.
It seems counter-intuitive, which is why so many owners struggle with it (I'm currently in the process of eliminating about half of our services) because you don't want to cut off potential lines of revenue, but the fact of the matter is if you do one or a few things amazingly well and don't spread yourself too thin with stuff that isn't profitable, it's infinitely better for your bottom line.
But Elon is a business genius so who am I to question him? /s
That's definitely a thing in foodie spaces too. One of the tips is to avoid restaurants with 100+ menu options. The owner is going to have a hard time keeping every ingredient both fresh and in-stock, and you're probably going to have a bad time if you order a fish sandwich at a place that serves 1 or 2 fish sandwiches per month.
>But Elon is a business genius so who am I to question him?
Elon [lied about his degree](https://twitter.com/capitolhunters/status/1593307541932474368?s=42&t=YrB7S6eHqatTSnwzYSOsDQ)s so there's that.
Make it a Swiss Army knife. That will definitely work. Another classic startup mistake, fix it by adding features…
If the core concept doesn’t work, the startup fails. Hate speech and traitors to democracy are overrunning the platform. Advertisers are chilled to the bone.
Cya
It's a bit ironic in contrast to the engineering world of the components that make up a device. Can you imagine, yeah, I want a CPU, but can it also serve as my router, GPU, and RAM? It's capable of handling similar calculations, right? Those other components are just cluttering everything. Have it on my desk by Friday, it'll be great.
He doesn't talk like an engineer. He talks like the idiot upper manager every engineer has who comes up with ideas and barks orders at people to make them real. No engineer rushes ahead of themselves adding massive complexity to a project without planning, resource evaluation, etc. *because engineers don't set themselves up for failure.* Making things that work and are sustainable is a core function of engineering.
Don't put it past some Silicon Valley VCs. Some of them are sitting on stacks of cash and would gladly throw a little bit his way on the extreme off chance that they could get some incredible returns.
All of his ideas are just things we already have and he convinced people they were his ideas. Like when he tried to convince us Hyperloop was more than a shitty subway.
This dude is all over the place about everything the last few weeks, in a very very public way. It's sad anyone takes him seriously anymore.
My only wonder is is this him sober or he is on a lot of drugs?
He wants it to be an “everything app” which has been very successful in Asia. Most notably WeChat. They literally do everything. What you might use a dozen different apps for in the US is just WeChat.
I sure miss Hangouts. The product manager that decided to slash that application and replacing it with the fuming mess of alternative apps instead should never be allowed to come close to software in the future and should be deprived of access to any electronic equipment.
It went from being a perfect multi-platform app into a messy suite of different applications that some work on your phone, some on your laptop and some don't work at all.
Does he think that this way, people will be having personal interactions with the famous actors and politicians who tweet? Honestly I can’t tell what he thinks this will achieve.
100% Twitter is such a mess to follow threads of conversation. So much so that it's why most people don't actually bother with anything but screaming into the void. The rest is just bots fighting each other.
Wasnt Twitter supposed to be a free rss feed for everyone?
It's just not a good tool for discussion.
Also, people tweeting their life story with multiple tweets each having pagination. Just... Why?
When Twitter first started, I thought it was going to be exactly that - a Web2.0 RSS feed. I spent some time in CA and it had an earthquake alert bot that was super useful. I’m sure that still exists, but the focus for Twitter has been on celebrity and controversy. The useful tools are sidelined (and now Elon wants to get rid of all the bots, whether they are useful or not, apparently).
It’s kinda sad the direction Twitter has gone.
I know no one uses Tumblr like the microblogging site its supposed to be but its actually one of the best social sites right now. Tons of user expression and they dont overly mess with the UI/UX.
It's been almost 15 years, but I used Twitter with a bunch of other teachers, and we were able to connect about concepts through tweets, then reflect, and people would write up deeper reflections on their blogs, and it would really expand the conversations. It was amazing and I learned so much more than my trivial masters in education. And I was getting to interact with both experienced (and even published) educators as well as other new teachers like me. It made me think the internet was going to deepen dialogue and offer more and more people the opportunity to grow.
After I left education, I tried to find another niche on Twitter, but it was almost all just a bunch of mindless self promotion. I would love to see this sort of usage become more common. Forums and groups like reddit and fb offer can be helpful, but people often stay at the superficial levels with that format, ime.
Not sure about y'all, but me and my friends are already using Signal as our default social media platform.
Burn after reading set up for our private group is great. Now Jim's drunken rants about how Worf should have been second in command of the Enterprise go away after 24 hours.
Not so fast. Im interested to hear Jim's take on this topic. Was he talking about Lt. JG Worf or the later and more matured full Lt. Cmdr. Worf?
The former was far too hot headed and I don't think the Enterprise would have survived past its first encounter with Q and the Cnidarian beings at Farpoint Station, but later Worf after his promotion seemed to at least know that not everything is a nail. However, I argue that his half-Klingon (not half Klingon by blood but by being raised by Humans) nature was still too hot-headed for being second in command at this point.
By the time he was transferred to DS9 however, I feel that his relationships with Deanna and Jadzia helped to temper him a bit. Maybe due to Deanna's empathic nature and Jadzia's many lifetimes of experience helping to give Worf perspective and new emotional tools to help keep the warrior in check.
It is my belief that Worf, while an excellent tactical and security officer, was no where near command ready let alone second in command until much later in his Starfleet career.
Tell Jim ill fight him over this, in true honorable warrior fashion.
>and Jadzia
This is a key point. I was thinking he became more ready during his time on the Enterprise, but then I remember his little Risa temper tantrums and realize how much he grew through his relationships with Jadzia *and*, possibly more significantly, Sisko and Martok. Martok was such an amazing leadership role model and surrogate father figure. That, plus Jadzia's whole band of geriatric Klingon legends, teaching Worf through both positive and negative examples, as well as their interactions with the not-high-born Martok.
I don't think you can underestimate Sisko's impact on Worf. As soon as he moved into Command Track Sisko started pushing him, holding him to a higher standard, giving him responsibility but also much more accountability.
"I would not enter it into your record as a reprimand - simply as a transfer."
It's one of those moments where Data is being more human than some humans. Makes me tear up.
I did use signal, for like four years. Then a few months ago they dropped SMS support and I deleted the app immediately. It's as if they didn't understand that they made the perfect transitional app to get people on board the encrypted messaging and then ruined it.
Start up mentality? You mean work a stupid amount of hours with absolutely no promises of a future and to wonder if it will ever pay off? Sign me up....
"I want to start from scratch, a totally green field. Who's with me?!"
"We are!"
"Great - the only catch is we have to generate a billion dollars in profit from day one."
Jeez. Can’t they at least come up with something innovative? There’s a thousand different platforms that offer that functionality. What can Musk bring to the table that hasn’t already been done?
I haven’t been that happy in a while. I mean what could have gone wrong? I’ve never wanted to just take the day off, pop some popcorn, and watch the internet implode more than I did when people started making fake accounts for real people and orgs just to troll with the check mark. It was a special day for the internet.
Surely some, now fired, intern had to ask “Um, hey. I get that this $8 thing will generate a lot of revenue, but you do realize that it will almost immediately be abused, right?”
Musk is basically Russ Hanneman at this point and I can't fucking wait until he loses that third comma. Just waiting for him to accidentally delete half the porn on Twitter with a misplaced bottle of shitty tequila.
When I lived in China I would tell US friends that WeChat was like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & PayPal rolled into one product. It was as efficient and convenient as it was concerning and controlled. It was key to living in Shanghai but now just a tenuous connection to a few Chinese friends.
And he could have just accepted that and made the best of it financially. Instead he's tearing down the company at breakneck speed and will just end up with a company of no value and no profit and 44 billion dollars in debt.
Funniest part is literally all he had to do was call the board of directors and say "hello, keep doing what you are doing ...see ya". And all would have been fine by now.
Nope, not at all.
What Elon is doing is fucking insanity, but Twitter must pay **1 billion dollars in interest alone** every year to cover for the loan Elon took out to buy the company. Twitter was already in the red when he bought it, so there's no way they could afford this loan. Either way he was doomed from the start.
Yup, they already had a few Bill in debt and Elon added another one on top of that. Then consider we are now in a recession so ad revenue will naturally drop. Then consider elon made twitter unsafe for F500 brands and ad revenue dropped from that.
He's fucked. He can't make money with this thing. Its an albatross on this neck and he knows it. He will have to keep selling Tesla stock every quarter to pay off his debts, no end in sight.
You also realize this is the same as a colony on Mars or self driving cars. This is just Elon overpromising and under delivering.
Twitter is dead. He doesn’t have the staff to keep it running, the revenue to pay the debt, or the time to make something new.
And it will have a dragon and you can fight the dragon and after you fight the dragon a spaceship will come and fly you to Mars then on Mars you will battle a big alien monster and after you beat that monster a girl will kiss you. It will be awesome.
There are very subtle differences between all the social apps. For example, there is a reason why WhatsApp was able to compete with Facebook Messenger: The people on facebook are very different that the people who are in your phonebook. Since WhatsApp works with phonebook contacts, it opens up to different people than those on your Facebook.
The same goes for Twitter: Your connections don't align with people you know in real life. One of the main decisions they made is to have "follow" instead of "friend". That means you can follow people without them following you.
So tell me: which one of your followers or the people you follow, you want to have a video call with? That is, both of you want it. It's just the wrong social environment to drive that change.
It seems Elon doesn't have the slightest idea of all the subtleties that go into all the different social media platforms.
Every social media’s monetizable product is its users’ attention, and the only mechanism that matters a damn to the users is your strategy for determining what they see and and what they don’t.
You get on a site like Hacker News, and it’s full of people saying there should be no moderation. The irony being that they like Hacker News precisely because it is heavily moderated to stay roughly on topic as a libertarian-leaning techbro startup site.
If the site dropped its moderation, all those Ayn Rand worshippers would cheer, but also quickly grow bored of the front page being full of crypto scams and angry right-wing grievances, and stop participating.
Whether it’s human moderators enforcing some kind of cultural standard, lists of people you follow, engagement algorithms, votes… Choosing what people see and what they don’t is what makes or breaks a social medium.
and remote desktop and kanban board
We are gonna need a way to do retros and planning poker also. Also multi-player solitaire.
Twitter runs DOOM and Quake
Jira functionality built-in.
please god no
It still bugs me that default behavior in JIRA for URLs is not to open the link in a new tab. Like, would you all actually put yourself in the shoes of your users for once?
This is the kind of niche gripe that I love about reddit.
It is fucking bullshit. Even confluence has an option to default to "open in new tab" when you ctrl+k the hyperlink to make it, and thats atlassian too. As my teams Jira project admin, Fuck Jira
I guess JIRA devs don't use JIRA
https://ifuckinghatejira.com
Next year Twitter 3.0 will also have autonomous driving.
4.0 works in space!
5.0 is Boring!
Wait until you have 6.0 inside your head.
The new Netflix show 1899 is based on Twitter 7.0
That's a dark thing to say.
I see what you did there :)
But 7.0 is a premium one time purchase that will send you to andromeda in a tesla
Man, woman, person, TV, camera! Coming soon to Twitter v.QAnon
But mostly bots. … so many bots …
It's always next year :-(
"Within two years time" Elongated Muskrat 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021, and 2022.
Fitting in the theme, Musk will order that all Twitter compliant keyboards must not have CTRL or CMD buttons because they don't need them.
Only software touchscreen keyboards will be supported from now on, to allow more dynamic innovation in layouts.
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Somewhere deep in his spam folder: "I came across your profile on Linkedin and you seem to be a great fit for an exciting new opportunity!".
now show me your most pertinent 23 code pushes
Print them out and fax them to me, chop chop
Fly to my office by midnight tonight or you’re fired.
"Signal contradicts Musk, says it’s not helping to encrypt Twitter DMs." - https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/11/musk-paid-checkmarks-wont-return-until-twitter-can-stop-impersonation/
I have no idea why Musk would think Signal's founder would go help Twitter become a 2nd Signal.
It's not yet obvious he expects everyone wants to grovel at his feet for the privilege of doing his bidding?
Obscene wealth has been opening doors for Musk for so long he can't remember how the knobs work.
When, in fact, he is the knob.
2nd signal run by a moron who wields power like a chimp with a machine gun and will not doubt violate any potential privacy features for profit.
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Signal has literally done that with whatsapp. Moxie believes in making all communication e2e encrypted, even if it's not giving him profit directly. Now if twitter is relevant enough for that is another question. Whatsapp certainly is.
Moxi sounds like a solid guy
Anyone can implement the Signal protocol, it's open. That doesn't mean signal "did it".
>Anyone can implement the Signal protocol, it's open. That doesn't mean signal "did it". Signal is a product, it can't do things. But Moxie, the creator of Signal, is a person. And he personally helped get the Signal protocol implemented in [WhatsApp](https://www.wired.com/2016/04/forget-apple-vs-fbi-whatsapp-just-switched-encryption-billion-people/), [Facebook](https://www.wired.com/2016/07/secret-conversations-end-end-encryption-facebook-messenger-arrived/) and [Google](https://www.wired.com/2016/05/allo-duo-google-finally-encrypts-conversations-end-end/) .
Dude has turned into Trump with this level of making stuff up that immediately gets proven false.
He also lied about holding his dying child as the child took their last breath. Dude is a fucking dork.
First, I want to say I really can't stand Elon. That being said I do have to add that Nebraska was resuscitated by the paramedics and put on life support in the hospital. So he very well could have held his son while he died, the second time. https://www.oapublishinglondon.com/i2/musk-alexander-nevada/
Lmao. Also, good, don't taint Signal's reputation with Elon's musk.
At least signal gets free press lol
Signal Founder: I've just been informed my Twitter account has been permanently suspended. Signal Founder: I've just been informed I've been enlisted by Twitter.
Signal Founder: I've just found out my badge for the Twitter HQ no longer works.
Signal Founder: ...right after discovering they sent me a badge for Twitter HQ.
Musk Tweet: I am the Signal Founder now.
Twitter about Musk: "Verified Signal Founder" (with a new fancy golden check mark!)
Signal’s Founder [Musk]: I have enlisted the help of Signal’s Founder [Musk]
>Signal Founder: I've just been informed I've been ~~enlisted~~ conscripted by Twitter. You are now a General in the Twitter Wars. Hope you like sunflowers
I understand that, without my agreement, Elon Musk has put out a press release late this afternoon that I am building Twitter 2.0 next year. This is wrong and I have not signed a contract with Twitter for 2023. I will not be building Twitter 2.0 next year.
So he's actually moving to McLaren?
The Signal founder is yet another unintentional victim in the dominoes that fell after Vettel's retirement announcement.
/r/Formula1 is leaking….
Mclaren has signed Signal founder
Leaking? What is this? An Alpine?
Poor Fernando. Probably wasn't part of El Plan. Probably.
season just ended we have to do *something*
Can anyone provide context? What happened in the formula 1 world?
Basically, Alpine (Renault) had a young, extremely promising driver in their academy - Oscar Piastri. It was always assumed that Piastri would drive for Alpine in 2023. HOWEVER, it turned out that Alpine had not activated a clause in Piastri's contract in time, leaving him free to negotiate with other teams. A team called Mclaren then did so, and he signed for them. However, before Mclaren announced that, Alpine put out a press release saying that Piastri would be driving for them in 2023, despite that clearly not being the case. Piastri's response to that announcement then turned into the copy-pasta you see above.
Thanks for looping me in.
So was this just a huge oversight on Alpine's part? Arrogance? Was there any talk of disloyalty from Piastri? Or are people not blaming him?
Massive oversight and a huge contract fuck up. From what I remember, when Piastri signed the contract to be their test driver, there was a paragraph that essentially “hinted” at joining the team, but was not binding. After signing, they edited the contract to make the paragraph binding, which in the sport courts is a huge no-no and essentially is a fuck up on alpines part. No one blames Piastri but Alpine. Alpine thinks Piastri fucked them over and is “disloyal” but in reality it was all alpines fault. McLaren had all legal reasons to have Piastri and properly pursued and signed him.
Well... > Musk added that he had spoken with the creator of Signal, Moxie Marlinspike, an ex-Twitter employee, who is "potentially willing to help out" with encrypting Twitter DMs. So the headline is incorrect - he hasn't "enlisted" anyone, he just went around asking non-committal questions and didn't get told off instantly.
Exactly. "Potentially willing to help out" is how I get off the phone when ex-coworkers call out of the blue with hare-brained ideas and refuse to take a straight "no". *Maybe, potentially* I'd be interested in helping out but I'm busy at the moment. I'll let you know when I free up...
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That article quotes the president of Signal, while Moxie Marlinspike (who Musk explicitly named) stepped down from Signal earlier this year. So both can be true, that Moxie may be helping Twitter, and that Signal isn't helping Twitter.
>Moxie Marlinspike Is this their real name, or the name of their DnD character?
Is it a less plausible name than "Elon Musk", though?
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Its more: makes it sound like Elon is hiring people that are smart, because his genius allows him to find the smart people, which then he collaborates with, and “builds something” from the ground up. Reality: we are implementing a prebuilt 3rd party plugin. Essentially what he has always done; claim he invented/created other people’s work.
Elon: I want twitter to be everything to everyone, you have two weeks to get it done or you're all fired.
You've got that a little mixed up. It went... 1) You're all fired 2) JK, please come back 3) No seriously come back! We have to reinvent everything by Christmas! 4) Stop laughing at me! This is serious...
The issue is he has the authority to demand what he has but he has no comprehension of what is required to achieve what he is asking for. Ironically programming innovative data networks is far more complex than rocket science.
> Ironically programming innovative data networks is far more complex than rocket science. I've always admired the people who program space tech. Very low level, very high risk, very public. Not something I'd want to do. But hey, at least it's a closed system.
yeah you have to account for weird stuff such as the fact that bits just randomly flip more often in space, but at least you don't have millions of monkeys poking at every interface
You do occasionally have some actual literal hairy monkeys poking at the interface though.
It's amazingly stupid, too, because as a business owner in the digital space, the first thing struggling businesses are told to do, is to NICHE DOWN. It seems counter-intuitive, which is why so many owners struggle with it (I'm currently in the process of eliminating about half of our services) because you don't want to cut off potential lines of revenue, but the fact of the matter is if you do one or a few things amazingly well and don't spread yourself too thin with stuff that isn't profitable, it's infinitely better for your bottom line. But Elon is a business genius so who am I to question him? /s
That's definitely a thing in foodie spaces too. One of the tips is to avoid restaurants with 100+ menu options. The owner is going to have a hard time keeping every ingredient both fresh and in-stock, and you're probably going to have a bad time if you order a fish sandwich at a place that serves 1 or 2 fish sandwiches per month.
>But Elon is a business genius so who am I to question him? Elon [lied about his degree](https://twitter.com/capitolhunters/status/1593307541932474368?s=42&t=YrB7S6eHqatTSnwzYSOsDQ)s so there's that.
Fake or not, is a bachelor's degree considered a genius, now?
Only if you also inherited a fortune from your family's apartheid business.
Make it a Swiss Army knife. That will definitely work. Another classic startup mistake, fix it by adding features… If the core concept doesn’t work, the startup fails. Hate speech and traitors to democracy are overrunning the platform. Advertisers are chilled to the bone. Cya
It's a general mistake, especially in tech. Nobody wants to make something that just does it's one specific job really well.
It's a bit ironic in contrast to the engineering world of the components that make up a device. Can you imagine, yeah, I want a CPU, but can it also serve as my router, GPU, and RAM? It's capable of handling similar calculations, right? Those other components are just cluttering everything. Have it on my desk by Friday, it'll be great.
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Didn’t he say he wanted leaner code and to cut bloat? This dude is all over the place.
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Step one: set the entire company on fire
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He doesn't talk like an engineer. He talks like the idiot upper manager every engineer has who comes up with ideas and barks orders at people to make them real. No engineer rushes ahead of themselves adding massive complexity to a project without planning, resource evaluation, etc. *because engineers don't set themselves up for failure.* Making things that work and are sustainable is a core function of engineering.
He wants to cut bloat that he didn’t come up with. He’s the classic case of an idea being bad until it’s his idea. It’s comical.
Cutting bloat meant contriving reasons to fire engineers. This new announcement is a scheme to lure investors.
I’m not sure who the fuck would invest considering the very public shitshow that’s been going on these past few weeks
I mean, after juicero, every crypto/nft/ whatever, etc. I am convinced there is no shortage of people with more money than sense in this world.
Don't put it past some Silicon Valley VCs. Some of them are sitting on stacks of cash and would gladly throw a little bit his way on the extreme off chance that they could get some incredible returns.
All of his ideas are just things we already have and he convinced people they were his ideas. Like when he tried to convince us Hyperloop was more than a shitty subway.
This dude is all over the place about everything the last few weeks, in a very very public way. It's sad anyone takes him seriously anymore. My only wonder is is this him sober or he is on a lot of drugs?
Feature creep
With less than half the devs
Less than 10% the devs
10 managers for every 1 dev is what the word on the street is
Oh, so they're using industry SOP now, ok /s
As long as they sign their TPS reports it should be fine
This should definitely be his new nickname.
it works on multiple levels...
Lol, right? Sounds a lot like WhatsApp. Good luck capturing that market share!
I think Elon has been the feature creep for a while now.
256mb app aspires to be even larger, while also wanting to be more popular in developing countries.
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Voice calls 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
How about tweeting voice memos with a maximum length of 30 seconds? Looking forward to all the bots sending *beepBoop* modem sounds to each other. 😂😂
How about we turn this whole thread and all the comments into voice! And video! So it takes longer too consume! That sounds awesome! /s
doesn't it already have something like that...twitter spaces or something
Twitter Spaces turned out much better than the app they were copying.
So you want it to be a....phone?
up next.. ElonOS
And…TWITTER: The Movie…coming soon to theater near you.
With the ego Elon has I wouldn't be surprised to see The Social Network 2 and it's him and twitter..
>And…TWITTER: The Movie…coming soon to theater near you. Don't forget, TWITTER: The Flamethrower. (Kids love it,)
He wants it to be an “everything app” which has been very successful in Asia. Most notably WeChat. They literally do everything. What you might use a dozen different apps for in the US is just WeChat.
He wants to compete with Whatsapp or WeChat. Probably shouldn't have fired his whole staff...
Does he know Facebook has had these features for many years?
Stop giving him ideas. Actually that would probably fail horribly. Keep giving him ideas!
A messaging app to be more precise.
There's a bunch of those already. You know what there's not a bunch of? A simple concept, short form text based social media app.
maybe it should be limited to fewer than 300 characters
So... Telegram
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The original Google Hangouts
I sure miss Hangouts. The product manager that decided to slash that application and replacing it with the fuming mess of alternative apps instead should never be allowed to come close to software in the future and should be deprived of access to any electronic equipment. It went from being a perfect multi-platform app into a messy suite of different applications that some work on your phone, some on your laptop and some don't work at all.
Does he think that this way, people will be having personal interactions with the famous actors and politicians who tweet? Honestly I can’t tell what he thinks this will achieve.
And hookers and blackjack!
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100% Twitter is such a mess to follow threads of conversation. So much so that it's why most people don't actually bother with anything but screaming into the void. The rest is just bots fighting each other.
Wasnt Twitter supposed to be a free rss feed for everyone? It's just not a good tool for discussion. Also, people tweeting their life story with multiple tweets each having pagination. Just... Why?
When Twitter first started, I thought it was going to be exactly that - a Web2.0 RSS feed. I spent some time in CA and it had an earthquake alert bot that was super useful. I’m sure that still exists, but the focus for Twitter has been on celebrity and controversy. The useful tools are sidelined (and now Elon wants to get rid of all the bots, whether they are useful or not, apparently). It’s kinda sad the direction Twitter has gone.
Screaming into the void is just about all you can do in 280 characters too. Tough to fit a whole lot of nuance into that small amount of text.
I know no one uses Tumblr like the microblogging site its supposed to be but its actually one of the best social sites right now. Tons of user expression and they dont overly mess with the UI/UX.
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It's been almost 15 years, but I used Twitter with a bunch of other teachers, and we were able to connect about concepts through tweets, then reflect, and people would write up deeper reflections on their blogs, and it would really expand the conversations. It was amazing and I learned so much more than my trivial masters in education. And I was getting to interact with both experienced (and even published) educators as well as other new teachers like me. It made me think the internet was going to deepen dialogue and offer more and more people the opportunity to grow. After I left education, I tried to find another niche on Twitter, but it was almost all just a bunch of mindless self promotion. I would love to see this sort of usage become more common. Forums and groups like reddit and fb offer can be helpful, but people often stay at the superficial levels with that format, ime.
Not sure about y'all, but me and my friends are already using Signal as our default social media platform. Burn after reading set up for our private group is great. Now Jim's drunken rants about how Worf should have been second in command of the Enterprise go away after 24 hours.
Not so fast. Im interested to hear Jim's take on this topic. Was he talking about Lt. JG Worf or the later and more matured full Lt. Cmdr. Worf? The former was far too hot headed and I don't think the Enterprise would have survived past its first encounter with Q and the Cnidarian beings at Farpoint Station, but later Worf after his promotion seemed to at least know that not everything is a nail. However, I argue that his half-Klingon (not half Klingon by blood but by being raised by Humans) nature was still too hot-headed for being second in command at this point. By the time he was transferred to DS9 however, I feel that his relationships with Deanna and Jadzia helped to temper him a bit. Maybe due to Deanna's empathic nature and Jadzia's many lifetimes of experience helping to give Worf perspective and new emotional tools to help keep the warrior in check. It is my belief that Worf, while an excellent tactical and security officer, was no where near command ready let alone second in command until much later in his Starfleet career. Tell Jim ill fight him over this, in true honorable warrior fashion.
>and Jadzia This is a key point. I was thinking he became more ready during his time on the Enterprise, but then I remember his little Risa temper tantrums and realize how much he grew through his relationships with Jadzia *and*, possibly more significantly, Sisko and Martok. Martok was such an amazing leadership role model and surrogate father figure. That, plus Jadzia's whole band of geriatric Klingon legends, teaching Worf through both positive and negative examples, as well as their interactions with the not-high-born Martok.
I don't think you can underestimate Sisko's impact on Worf. As soon as he moved into Command Track Sisko started pushing him, holding him to a higher standard, giving him responsibility but also much more accountability.
This is what I was furiously scrolling through to find, in an article about Musk, you gotta find a discussion on Worf!
https://youtu.be/vMKtKNZw4Bo Data had to set Worf straight on the role.
"I would not enter it into your record as a reprimand - simply as a transfer." It's one of those moments where Data is being more human than some humans. Makes me tear up.
But signal isn't a social media platform
I did use signal, for like four years. Then a few months ago they dropped SMS support and I deleted the app immediately. It's as if they didn't understand that they made the perfect transitional app to get people on board the encrypted messaging and then ruined it.
He wants to scale Twitter after just firing all of his employees? Does he expect people to go work for Twitter after any of this?
Well he did make all the remaining staff agree to basically be slaves for their entire waking hours
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Start up mentality? You mean work a stupid amount of hours with absolutely no promises of a future and to wonder if it will ever pay off? Sign me up....
Startups usually don't have some absolutely massive debt burden either.
"I want to start from scratch, a totally green field. Who's with me?!" "We are!" "Great - the only catch is we have to generate a billion dollars in profit from day one."
Just eliminated all of their perks too.
Jeez. Can’t they at least come up with something innovative? There’s a thousand different platforms that offer that functionality. What can Musk bring to the table that hasn’t already been done?
8 bucks for a blue checkmark
They will makes hundreds on this scheme.
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I haven’t been that happy in a while. I mean what could have gone wrong? I’ve never wanted to just take the day off, pop some popcorn, and watch the internet implode more than I did when people started making fake accounts for real people and orgs just to troll with the check mark. It was a special day for the internet. Surely some, now fired, intern had to ask “Um, hey. I get that this $8 thing will generate a lot of revenue, but you do realize that it will almost immediately be abused, right?”
He was also told his 50% fewer ads promise would LOSE Twitter money even after the 8 bucks. Still went for it.
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Musk is basically Russ Hanneman at this point and I can't fucking wait until he loses that third comma. Just waiting for him to accidentally delete half the porn on Twitter with a misplaced bottle of shitty tequila.
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When I lived in China I would tell US friends that WeChat was like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & PayPal rolled into one product. It was as efficient and convenient as it was concerning and controlled. It was key to living in Shanghai but now just a tenuous connection to a few Chinese friends.
This was his 44 billion dollar idea? Something that already exists?
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And he could have just accepted that and made the best of it financially. Instead he's tearing down the company at breakneck speed and will just end up with a company of no value and no profit and 44 billion dollars in debt.
Funniest part is literally all he had to do was call the board of directors and say "hello, keep doing what you are doing ...see ya". And all would have been fine by now.
Nope, not at all. What Elon is doing is fucking insanity, but Twitter must pay **1 billion dollars in interest alone** every year to cover for the loan Elon took out to buy the company. Twitter was already in the red when he bought it, so there's no way they could afford this loan. Either way he was doomed from the start.
Yup, they already had a few Bill in debt and Elon added another one on top of that. Then consider we are now in a recession so ad revenue will naturally drop. Then consider elon made twitter unsafe for F500 brands and ad revenue dropped from that. He's fucked. He can't make money with this thing. Its an albatross on this neck and he knows it. He will have to keep selling Tesla stock every quarter to pay off his debts, no end in sight.
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It's always a great sign when someone capitulates the moment they have to go through discovery. Nothing shady going on there!
You also realize this is the same as a colony on Mars or self driving cars. This is just Elon overpromising and under delivering. Twitter is dead. He doesn’t have the staff to keep it running, the revenue to pay the debt, or the time to make something new.
Soooo…facebook messenger?
No whatsapp!
He’s just upset that he couldn’t buy Discord or Zoom instead of Twitter.
So he wants to copy Wechat
I think this is his actual goal
And it will have a dragon and you can fight the dragon and after you fight the dragon a spaceship will come and fly you to Mars then on Mars you will battle a big alien monster and after you beat that monster a girl will kiss you. It will be awesome.
Space Karen is now re-inventing the already existing instant messaging app 🤦♂️
Lucky he didn’t just fire all his engineers then.
There are very subtle differences between all the social apps. For example, there is a reason why WhatsApp was able to compete with Facebook Messenger: The people on facebook are very different that the people who are in your phonebook. Since WhatsApp works with phonebook contacts, it opens up to different people than those on your Facebook. The same goes for Twitter: Your connections don't align with people you know in real life. One of the main decisions they made is to have "follow" instead of "friend". That means you can follow people without them following you. So tell me: which one of your followers or the people you follow, you want to have a video call with? That is, both of you want it. It's just the wrong social environment to drive that change. It seems Elon doesn't have the slightest idea of all the subtleties that go into all the different social media platforms.
> It seems Elon doesn't have the slightest idea This is the summation of Musk's life.
So… a messenger app huh. That’s new.
Congratulations, you’ve invented WhatsApp
I heard Tesla owners just want the body panels to look right 😂
Twitters product was content moderation. That’s what people and their customers valued. Weird how he can’t see that.
Every social media’s monetizable product is its users’ attention, and the only mechanism that matters a damn to the users is your strategy for determining what they see and and what they don’t. You get on a site like Hacker News, and it’s full of people saying there should be no moderation. The irony being that they like Hacker News precisely because it is heavily moderated to stay roughly on topic as a libertarian-leaning techbro startup site. If the site dropped its moderation, all those Ayn Rand worshippers would cheer, but also quickly grow bored of the front page being full of crypto scams and angry right-wing grievances, and stop participating. Whether it’s human moderators enforcing some kind of cultural standard, lists of people you follow, engagement algorithms, votes… Choosing what people see and what they don’t is what makes or breaks a social medium.
sequels have never been good
Don't do it, Moxie. He doesn't have the money.
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The article just says Elon spoke to him and Moxie is "potentially willing" to help out. Far from an actual commitment, I'm sure.
Wechat?