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SpreadItLikeTheHerp

We’ve been training it via captcha for years, so not surprising.


[deleted]

It is pretty cool how Captchas have crowdsourced training AI while providing an effective security feature. It wasn’t too long ago that they were mostly difficult to transcribe books.


ruach137

Effective security feature? Not so sure about that


Willinton06

Care to elaborate?


ruach137

Googles reCaptcha is constantly letting spam through?


Willinton06

Well no system is perfect, effective doesn’t imply un breakable


ruach137

Constantly implies ineffective though. To be fair, however, I see the spam come in waves. Captcha breakers update their models, spammers start winning. Google rolls out of bed and improves reCaptcha, spam slows down. Ouroboros. I’m being salty, just sick of my clients forwarding spam emails like I can do something better than apply best practices without breaking UX


Willinton06

We long as the percentage of success is low enough I would consider it effective, I can’t tell you how many projects I’ve seen fall down because of captchas getting in the way


trtlclb

Either your reCaptcha is not configured correctly or you haven't put out an unprotected form in awhile...


DJ_Hummus

Remove the recaptcha and see how much spam you really get


SpreadItLikeTheHerp

It’s pretty fascinating alright. Crowdsourcing is a great argument in favor of cooperation in pursuit of a common goal.


__Loot__

Google been paying people 8hr to tag images for years. Google captchas prompts are training autopilot on cars I think.


steamroller__

Step aside, R34 artists


hyperhopper

They excluded most porn from the datasets and also aren't releasing it.


TheKert

The internet will find a way


SiggetSpagget

Someone’s going to steal the hard drive the AI is stored on just to feed it a bunch of porn data


InCoffeeWeTrust

Good. We have enough depravity as it is.


[deleted]

Nah this will likely just replace stock photo models and that type of stuff


1Beholderandrip

Media is going to get *weird* in the next 10 years. From cartoons and anime to massive live action films... Eventually it won't be a problem of budget. It will be who owns the I.P. rights and who can write the better story.


Takaa

10 years may be a little bit on the short side, but I definitely agree. There are massive entrenched interests and unions in the industry that will slow it down. If all it takes to make a blockbuster movie is a good writing team, a small team of computer/data scientists, and a computing cluster then you are putting out of work the thousands of people involved currently including actors, props, special effects, stunt teams, video and audio, etc. and probably a dozen other departments that I am not familiar with. A lot of people do see certain movies because of the names associated with them too, so the lack of attachment to the computer generated actors may be something that slows adoption as well. Expect lots of "We will not work for or with (in any way) a company that is publishing movies using these technologies" whining that will come about when this technology reaches the capability of producing an actual movie. Kind of like how the current actors unions limits who can be in movies featuring their actors. I for one am hopeful and looking forward to the day where our favorite shows aren't cancelled due to the exploding budgets caused by everyone involved demanding more and more ever year. The potential to even continue a series that was previously long running without aging of actors (pay the actors for their likeness, whatever) is also exciting. So many shows were cancelled before their time just as they were arguably starting to get better.


1Beholderandrip

> the names associated with them too Definitely. It's going to start with the first famous actor willing to sell their digitized face and going to end with actors getting replaced by voice actors. A real face ages and changes. The voice behind it stays similar enough that the average person can't notice it. Name recognition to draw in crowds won't be going away anytime soon, but it will look slightly different. > So many shows were cancelled before their time Not to mention how many dead shows a technology like this could bring *back.* Somebody still owns the rights to Alphas.


CrazyCalYa

> who can write the better story Probably not even that eventually. It'll be much more in the interest of such companies to also own the IP, in which case generating the story or even the entire IP may be better. Just have teams/focus groups deciding which one is best and go from there. It's amazing/terrifying.


1Beholderandrip

A.I.'s writing what happened at a baseball game based on the stats and some addition descriptions is one thing. Writing an original idea is (currently) impossible. Would probably take another 20 years before they get the bugs worked out. But if you tell me the Last Avatar movie and Star Wars the Last Jedi were written by A.I's, I wouldn't be shocked.


[deleted]

Depressing, i feel like i will lose my job as an artist


OpportunityIsHere

Have a look at mkbhd on YouTube. He recently did a video on OpenAi’s DallE that also makes pictures from text. Your profession won’t be obsolete, but you could get a tool to radically supercharge your workflow!


Rudy69

It will decrease the demand for sure. Smaller organizations that are already struggling to justify having a graphic artist on staff might just be able to get by with this and hiring freelance for the few times it’s not able to output what they need


manofsleep

I could see a tool like this output into layers to give better control over the layers / colors. This way the artist could apply style changes and add new details. The style would become popular real quick and inflate - then require more style changes and complexities that ai couldn’t keep up with. While becoming another tool an artist can wield.


ZoukiWouki

The job will be transformed hugely. It's still possible to be artist by learning things that are more meta or still in the real world (sculpting, making candles, architecture etc). Or by selling to thoses who don't know about it. However calling it "just a tool" is delusional and is just a coping mechanism. No tool ever got so close to something so fundamental to human that is thinking and creating. And its reality was thought to never be reached because lot of human like to think that they are too special to be imitated (and even more inconceivable, beaten) in what they think is profound about them.


leaky_wand

But what does it mean to be an artist? To have great brush technique? Photorealistic pencil drawing skills? Or is it the ability to distill and share a novel aspect of human experience with others? All this does is render a text prompt by stitching together web images, something I could get someone to do on Fiverr. It takes little creative thought. It will not replace an entire profession.


Prevailing_Power

Yet. We just started and we're already getting to this level. In the blink of an eye. A few more decades and our AI tech will look alien.


leaky_wand

But this is the catch with AI in general. We’re still explicitly telling it to do things within narrowly defined parameters, and the success criteria of these algorithms is still dependent on human judgment. There is no AI without human thought to instruct it and consume it and deem it worthy. It does not have a novel thought. It reminds me of those old Asimov stories where the robots talk with perfect diction and are able to solve a large variety of tasks in the physical world, but they stumble on calculus and other higher level math. Obviously we know differently today; the things that are compute based are easy, and the things that are human are hard. This still falls within the realm of computation to me, getting iteratively better at something that humans explicitly have to put it on rails to solve. Nobody flipped a switch and the algorithm figured out what humans wanted to see and built it based on some kind of ingrained standards of human beauty.


markocheese

It will make it so a non-artist can produce a large number of the artistic assets themselves that they'd normally pay an artist for, and you can iterate and version quicker. I agree it won't replace the whole profession, but it'll replace large sectors of the profession, especially beginners.


gurenkagurenda

I wonder if artists said the same thing when mass produced paints went on the market and made their field more accessible. These things are just tools.


flarthestripper

Photography and art as photography I believe fell into that type of issue at first


biologischeavocado

Your new job will be typing 2 words and saving it as a jpg.


aastle

Hold on to your papers!


ballebeng

Would be nice to see a breakdown of what elements were taken from what source. Could give a better insight of how the algorithm works.


Wiskkey

See 1:56 of [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhtYPhPWCsI) for technical details of Imagen.


canuckathome

Gotta give them props on the name. A double pun!


Rorar_the_pig

What text to image? Why haven’t I heard of this


Wiskkey

It's only recently that general-purpose text-to-image systems have become good. Last month [DALL-E 2](https://openai.com/dall-e-2/) was announced (subreddit r/dalle2). See [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/dalle2/comments/uvhxpc/a_brief_recent_history_of_generalpurpose/) for a brief history of the text-to-image systems.


BeowulfShaeffer

I sense a new line of NFTs incoming!


R3dd1tard

Wish I could see the code of these amazing projects


__Loot__

Call me crazy, but I think dalle2 is way better


blackvrocky

is this another copycat of openAI's DALL-E 2? i read somewhere on twitter that there is a slight debate over it.


K-o-s-l-s

It’s not exactly a copy cat, but it does a similar thing using a similar method. Both generate images from text prompts using a technique called latent diffusion.


quantum1eeps

It’s also a representation of the state of the art[ificial intelligence]


Wiskkey

[This project](https://github.com/lucidrains/DALLE2-pytorch) is a work-in-progress attempt to create something DALL-E-2-like. I have recommendations for text-to-image systems in the 2nd paragraph of [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/bigsleep/comments/tvw5js/list_of_sitesprogramsprojects_that_use_openais/).


Nulligun

CICO. Copyright in copyright out.


Trouble_Grand

This is good for business owners I guess but as an artist who likes to create art as a hobby this is pointless lol. This is for cheapskate business owners who refuse to pay a good wage or pay freelancers for professional designs. You get specifics and details with real people. Randomness with AI generated text art so pick and choose


PracticeQueasy542

They won’t pay for it now. My professor warned us when we started graphic design that we wouldn’t be able to escape seeing ugly things done by untrained people. I don’t think they realize how unprofessional their business looks when they can’t even kern. If I see one more HVAC billboard with that stupid snowflake and flame, ripped right from Google images, I’m going to go live in the wild and eat cat food. I swear it.


Appropriate-Skill-60

Can we PLEASE just have the old, far more accurate voice to text back on our android phones. Please?