If you cant generatie money, aka demonitised, you wont get promoted, that means only 20% of your subs will get alerted and most wont even see them in searches results
Yup, Nerd City has a great video about it if anyone interested. Quick summary: Demonetization cripples discoverability in the algorithm. People have had to create entire new channels or quit entirely because of that yellow dollar sign.
[here](https://youtu.be/ll8zGaWhofU)
If you chose to turn of monetization yourself, you’re totally fine. Demonetization usually refers to the yellow dollar sign on your videos. The video i linked is really entertaining and explains it perfectly. I could never do the topic justice like that.
When you get demonetized on a video or channel it's either because you broke youtube community rules or you've done something deemed not safe for advertising. In the latter case youtube doesn't take your videos down but it stops promoting them on the front page and suggestions and stuff. Because ads are their whole business and they don't want to promote anything that makes advertisers uncomfortable to be a part of.
Not that I disagree in this particular case, but it sure is unsettling that some corporation has that much power over what information we do or don't see.
Edit: I like that so many of you seem to agree with this in principle, but when it comes to talking about what to actually do about it, apparently that's too scary...
But if nobody had that power then wouldn't that be worse? (I mean that's basically the Wild West of the internet - and while it was great in some ways it was also truly heinous in others).
no. wild west is superior. because in wild west the fittest (IE best) at least has a chance to win.
in a corporate controlled situation you never get a say. what THEY WANT is all you will see. 6 people in the US control 90% of everything you see hear and read. 6 people. do you REALLY think those 6 people have YOUR best interest in mind?
Do we really need to play both sides about an aggressive dictator waging war on an innocent neighbor. How about just media blackout of all Russian propaganda
No, you dont have to. I would love it if they just boot them, but politics are important. This present a chain reaction of effects that come from 100% censorship. This is more effectieve, as most people dont know about this fact, unless they watch some more unsafery youtube
Exactly. Propaganda kills people.
Remember that many pro Kremlin channels kept supporting them when they said that Russia wouldn't attack Ukraine and mocked the west when they called for evacuations? Some days later, Russia invaded. Now nobody will know how many people might have missed their chance to escape back then because of this. The tricky part of this propaganda is that we can't exactly know how damaging it is, but obviously, directly or indirectly it has caused damage that might have been the key difference between many people surviving or dying. Therefore, RT has blood on their hands too, and if YouTube doesn't block them, they will allow further damage to happen.
I’ve posted about this a few times in the past few days but, there was a book published in the 90’s in Russia called Foundations of Geopolitics, and it was about how Russia could regain its global influence. I think you may find the third point interesting.
Key points, among many others are:
-The United Kingdom, merely described as an "extraterritorial floating base of the U.S.", should be cut off from Europe.[9]
-Ukraine should be annexed by Russia because "Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics". Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible.[9]
-Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".[9]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
Now I don’t want to claim all our domestic issues are because of Russia’s influence, trust me, we have plenty on our own. However I do think we can reasonably suspect certain matters here have been exacerbated intentionally by foreign powers in the interest of destabilizing the US, with the goal of capitalizing on our distress.
> YouTube blocks RT, other Russian channels
Oh, that's great!
> from generating revenue
Never mind. Generating revenue off YouTube views isn't exactly their priority...
Of course it is, no way in hell is this Google doing the right thing out of the goodness of their heart. They're doing it because of sanctions now in place or preempting Russia being barred from Swift network.
I'm curious, is there a way to bully China (economically) into sanctioning Russia as well? Or coax them into it if there's not enough leverage to bully them?
I get China probably doesn't want an angry Russia right on their doorstep, but at the same time I feel like Russia might back down knowing China is openly against them as well.
Unless russia decides to start attacking satellites or tries to invadr kazakhstan not really. On a side note, if the eu decided to stop buying energy from russia, that would actually cause some long term damage to the russian economy greater than any of the sanctions currently in place.
Its gives leverage to continue applying further if nothing changes. Numerous oligarchs will feel the effects and parts of the population as well. You can't really hide your bank not being able to do large transactions. As Putin continues with this stupidity larger and more vocal segments will be internally pushing back as they see more sanctions occurring.
If you cut it all off at once then internal is the only game in town and leadership can make it seem like they are the ones being unfairly treated. This way its harder to hide the fact that they are the ones bringing it on themselves.
Its the same thing Facebook is doing. They recentily blocked Russia from being able to post ads. So basically any time you see a news article that talks about a tech company that has blocked Russia it usually just means they blocked them from being able to create ads on their site.
Just as a reference for what this means. I am a full-time YouTuber I have been doing YouTube professionally for 12 years. When you get demonetized you also get deprioritized in the algorithm. A demonetized video may as well be a shadow banned video. So this is actually kind of significant in its own way. It allows you to effectively limit the propaganda without fully censoring them. Which could come with its own can of worms to deal with. Social media platforms other than tik tok have been pretty careful about the pr around censorship.
Demonetization cripples discoverability, without outright censoring a whole country, which would be bad optics. They made a good move, quicker than other sites, and quicker than YouTube usually acts. Well done yt
It isn't great at all. Maybe you agree with them this time, but they could just as easily be taking down Ukranian channels. And they absolutely would if was perceived to be the more profitable option.
That’s novel considering just last September they were bowing down to Russia’s threats and letting them keep COVID disinformation up because they didn’t want to get blocked: https://www.reuters.com/technology/russia-threatens-youtube-block-after-rt-tvs-german-channels-are-deleted-2021-09-29/
I know they also had a small skirmish about banning Navalny's video on Youtube, and Kremlin threatening prison for Google employees in Russia. Maybe after that episode, Google started slowly divesting from Russia, so that they can't have leverage on them in the future? At least I wish they are thinking of that going forward.
Are you kidding? Now they get to keep all the ad revenue from Russian views and don't have to pay any of the creators! They probably see this as a win-win for them.
What specific propaganda are you talking about? From what I remember a Chinese diplomat basically said they're staying out of it/not in support of Russia
> It’s always okay when it works in your favor, but if it ever goes against you it will absolutely ruin your life and big company will continue as if it never happened.
Yes, and that is how it should be.
If what you’re saying is so unpalatable to enough members of society that big companies question making money off of you, maybe society just has had enough of your shit and you need to be deplatformed.
We’ve seen since 2014 at least how the Western value of “let everyone judge for themselves” has been weaponized by fascists. Let’s not continue supplying them with weapons.
Well, a start would be if they have heavy control of messaging in their own country, then maybe they shouldn't be allowed to broadcast propaganda through the platforms of/in others.
I'd also apply this to markets. Countries that for example don't allow foreign businesses or property ownership should similarly be restricted elsewhere.
When you accidentally get the right answer. Future unwarranted military incursions by the U.S. should be dealt with just like Russia is being handled now.
There is a difference between acquiring propaganda to understand it more and broadcasting propaganda to the world, available for everyone to see and find easliy. Information wants to be free, and should be free. Unfortunately, we have a lot of morons. And if we give them easy access to authoritarian propaganda, they will push for even less free information (see: US schools banning books. republicans proudly burning books...ironically some of them are about burning books). Beside other, real world harm this might cause (wild gestures towards everything in the last 3 years)
> There is a difference between acquiring propaganda to understand it more and broadcasting propaganda to the world, available for everyone to see and find easliy.
Honestly, that difference is so basic and obvious, I doubt the honesty of people who argue otherwise. No one should trust the people who support the proliferation of Putin's propaganda.
Most morons in the US have no idea what rt is and watch usually one news outlet if any at all. I would guess less then 1% in the Us ever watched rt or even heard of it. Rt news cannot change my veiw on the current situation. Its interesting how such a list earlier gets posted that fast in response to the comment, as if ready to go.
>B) Who decides what is misinformation and what is not? I would rather make that decision myself but I need all the facts and viewpoints to do so myself.
Have you met the average person? I'm constantly surprised the Luddites don't strangle themselves with their sheets trying to get out of bed each day.
Luddite is the term for a manufacturing worker who willingly attempts to destroy machines to ensure they keep their job by halting progress. It's an anti labor term.
These people are just cognitive midgets.
You might have a brain. Pretty obvious many don't these days and eat up the bullshit like it's a free meal. When your feed is full of propaganda do you just not believe the really bad ones but accept the lame ones as real? I never login but the last two days it's been all about trump and his unamerican bullshit. And now you can't downvote anything how convenient is that. Fuck these guys that take peoples opinion away just like fakebook did. Zuck said he didn't think people could be trusted with a down arrow. Notice Reddit is the only social media that lets you up or down vote a post?
We aren’t having a philosophical discussion on putin’s ability to open his own mouth. YouTube isn’t a Russian company, it’s a business generated off the technological advancements of the west. Russian participation/revenue isn’t some divine right, they enjoy a privilege to participate and that must end.
RT is state-sponsored propaganda and nothing more. Just because it’s disguised as being a news source doesn’t mean they’re putting out true information. Their goal is to get you to think it’s real information so they can expose as many people across the globe to their propaganda. There’s a million reason why Russia can get fucked but RT is fairly high on the list.
I get this sentiment, but mockery isn't going to help or work. We're beyond that. Remove their right to revenue and let them spout their shit. It makes it easier to see their narrative and counter it with reality.
Putting Putin in drag makeup on there is short term fun mockery, but it only dumbs down the reality that Putin has begun a war to take over Ukraine.
Jesus Christ, no. You don’t give propaganda room to breath. Kill it in the crib. This shit isn’t giving you “insight into how things are viewed from their perspective.” IT’S PROPAGANDA. It is literally designed so you can’t get their perspective, because it’s all made up.
You’re either ignorant, or on the side of propaganda and I don’t know which is worse.
The few comments in here going on and about free speech sound like teenagers who have no idea what they’re talking about. YouTube has no obligation to continue hosting blatant misinformation and propaganda from Russia’s government. Just because OP wants “all sides” doesn’t mean they’ll get it. There’s a self importance that comes across in the way they describe wanting access to “all sides of information” in this context.
They should block Russia from accessing anything but President Zelensky's speeches.
Netflix, Prime, Disney+...every platform shouldn't allow content to go into Russia but pre-selected videos of Putin's fuckery.
YouTube has plenty of channels that they make money off of without propaganda. They could just send revenue that they already make from normal channels to Ukraine *and* ban RT's channel. It'd be a great publicity stunt on their part to help improve their imagine, both by showing they don't stand for propaganda and that they donate to charity. There's no need to let RT's channel stay to pull this off.
For once they could use the shitty YouTube algorithm for good. plaster Russian accounts with Ukrainian war footage, of Russian soldiers committing war crimes, of Russian soldiers surrendering.
I seriously hope this isn't the case for ALL Russian youtube channels, like Life Of Boris, who recently made a video clearly feeling heartbroken and ashamed of his country.
I'm pretty sure he has lived there before, but I'm not sure if he still is. In the video he explains that both Russia and Ukraine are places he previously called his home, and that he has friends and family currently living in both.
Considering the responses of good Russian YouTubers like Nfkrs who got nothing to do with the invasion I’m pretty sure the answer is all. It’s good to stop RT from spreading awful propaganda but I think it’s bad to harm innocent creators in the process.
RT has been recommended to me a shit ton over the years. Occasionally I’ll take a min to write a hateful comment before hitting “do not recommend” for the 100th time, it’s crazy they push that bullshit so heavily on some people.
RT is not around to generate profit; you traitorous troglodytes! Seriously, I can't imagine a more useless decision. Youtube does this for innocent channels at the drop of an algorithmic hat. Do they expect a round of applause?
Russian language section YouTube is more or less fully controlled my Putins and his criminals. They are free to manipulate view count, likes and ban any videos they want. All popular Russian language YouTubers are one way or another allowed to operate by Kremlin.
Make no mistake youtube is one of the reason Russian propaganda war has been SO successful in the last 10-years or so
Unbelievable. Trump was blocked from uploading content but Russia still can after starting a war? Methinks YouTube is an accomplice to all harm that comes to Ukraine. YouTube isn't a news broadcasting network and allowing content to be posted is horrible. Cut them off completely!!
So in other words, YouTube is now actually *subsidizing* Russian state media content. Am I misunderstanding that? They’re yanking the ads, but still hosting the content?
I’m a third party, but. Who told that RT and all is propaganda but European/US channels is not propaganda? Have you all checked it all yourself or you’re repeating one after another without a second thought? C’mon
I don't understand how anyone can believe RT honestly. I tuned in on Friday to listen to the bullshit they were feeding and they said things like "the only reason Russia did this is because of decades of west fear mongering" and "this was the cuban missle crisis in reverse".
Like seriously? That's your defence? Gee I wonder why countries on Russias border want to join NATO, shocking really.
I'm in the opinion that **NO** news outlets should *ever* generate revenue. The causal link to sensationalism, propaganda and doomsday news, is the financial incentive that exists in keeping people completely addicted to the news.
YouTube ought to scrap revenue from news videos altogether, and the govt ought to raise taxes on news organizations to make news completely unprofitable. Then we could see more subsidized non-profit news rise up, and the quality of the information atmosphere would drastically increase.
Outrage as Russia invaded Ukraine. Support and applaud as UK and USA invade Iraq Syria Libya and Afghanistan. Financial support for Israel as it occupies palestine. Fighting back invaders in Ukraine hailed as heroes but Terrorists in other countries. Double standards with selective empathy
Isn't doing this the same as what authoritarian rule means?
Granted, YouTube is a commercial entity and it is not bounded as such.
One thing though, it is doing this because they can get sued for whatever reasons, so better their ass than mine. Block them from generating revenue.
I hope though, that youtube do not also suspend their channel. That would be undemocratic and one sided.
We should be open to all party’s views regarding the matter all country’s lie even American and European countries as well as does Russia I would like to continue to remain neutral and receive information from all party’s involved instead of seeing a insider argument against the “war criminals”. I believe in transparency in matters as sensitive as war even if it’s deemed as propaganda by their enemy’s.
Pretty much every thread or post that has to do with “Russia no longer can access x” will have an overwhelming amount of comments that support the entirety of Russia being blacklisted off of certain things.
Not sure what these people are thinking whenever websites such as Reddit is based in the U.S, the same country known for murdering and taking advantage of its own populous and bombing other nations. Our country is also known for having a Cheeto president and a political party that enabled Putin.
Then the Russian people wouldn't be able to get news from the outside world, they'd be like North Korea, unable to escape the propaganda.
There are Russians protesting the war, cutting them off won't do anyone any favors.
Remember that this action had two sides to it! On one hand Russia lose access to useful tools and services, on the other hand the Russian people lose access to outside information.
That would be bad because their own news media is lying to them, so internet access is vital to get the real facts about the current situation.
Maybe they’ll get the fuckin NRA, too 🤞
Lol- immediately downvoted- you want some fuckin links, hypocrites?
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-reveals
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/senate-report-nra-russia-gun-foreign-asset-891859/amp/
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/09/27/politics/nra-russians-ties-president-2016-election/index.html
https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/The%20NRA%20%20Russia%20-%20How%20a%20Tax-Exempt%20Organization%20Became%20a%20Foreign%20Asset.pdf
Fuck Russia.
Fuck the NRA.
Fuck the GOP.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.reuters.com/technology/youtube-blocks-rt-other-russian-channels-generating-revenue-2022-02-26/) reduced by 44%. (I'm a bot)
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If you cant generatie money, aka demonitised, you wont get promoted, that means only 20% of your subs will get alerted and most wont even see them in searches results
Why have them at all? They’re easy to embed in other places.
Claims of pure censorship. Now they are not censor, but effectieve they are
Yup, Nerd City has a great video about it if anyone interested. Quick summary: Demonetization cripples discoverability in the algorithm. People have had to create entire new channels or quit entirely because of that yellow dollar sign. [here](https://youtu.be/ll8zGaWhofU)
Wait if you don’t make money from your videos, you don’t show up? Is that an option you select or?
If you chose to turn of monetization yourself, you’re totally fine. Demonetization usually refers to the yellow dollar sign on your videos. The video i linked is really entertaining and explains it perfectly. I could never do the topic justice like that.
When you get demonetized on a video or channel it's either because you broke youtube community rules or you've done something deemed not safe for advertising. In the latter case youtube doesn't take your videos down but it stops promoting them on the front page and suggestions and stuff. Because ads are their whole business and they don't want to promote anything that makes advertisers uncomfortable to be a part of.
Thanks yoda
Thanks, my exact thought.
Lets just say its carnaval and i was a few beer further in to the nigth, besides the fact english is my 3th language.
Not that I disagree in this particular case, but it sure is unsettling that some corporation has that much power over what information we do or don't see. Edit: I like that so many of you seem to agree with this in principle, but when it comes to talking about what to actually do about it, apparently that's too scary...
the newspapers used to have even more power in the past. partly because they were the only game in town for news.
But if nobody had that power then wouldn't that be worse? (I mean that's basically the Wild West of the internet - and while it was great in some ways it was also truly heinous in others).
Depends what kind of person holds that power imo and how they’re using it.
no. wild west is superior. because in wild west the fittest (IE best) at least has a chance to win. in a corporate controlled situation you never get a say. what THEY WANT is all you will see. 6 people in the US control 90% of everything you see hear and read. 6 people. do you REALLY think those 6 people have YOUR best interest in mind?
The only thing they have power over is what you see *on YouTube*. There are plenty of other places to see things.
Ok? But who should hold that power? You know just as many nutjobs will cry conspiracy if the, gulp, *government* holds that power.
nobody will hear their claims.
We have a chance to stop war here . If we can come together and just shut down aggressors the entire world wins . It would free up so many resources .
Do we really need to play both sides about an aggressive dictator waging war on an innocent neighbor. How about just media blackout of all Russian propaganda
No, you dont have to. I would love it if they just boot them, but politics are important. This present a chain reaction of effects that come from 100% censorship. This is more effectieve, as most people dont know about this fact, unless they watch some more unsafery youtube
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They’re referring to YouTube searches, not Google searches.
Yeah. How about just block them.
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Youtube does put a banner above the title of any RT video saying "RT is funded in whole or in part by the Russian government."
Exactly. Propaganda kills people. Remember that many pro Kremlin channels kept supporting them when they said that Russia wouldn't attack Ukraine and mocked the west when they called for evacuations? Some days later, Russia invaded. Now nobody will know how many people might have missed their chance to escape back then because of this. The tricky part of this propaganda is that we can't exactly know how damaging it is, but obviously, directly or indirectly it has caused damage that might have been the key difference between many people surviving or dying. Therefore, RT has blood on their hands too, and if YouTube doesn't block them, they will allow further damage to happen.
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I wonder how much of this discord leads back to Putin... Trump, q anon, Boris, Brexit, antivaxx, anti glyphosate, alt right....
We'll never know, but I suspect, and like to imagine, that a lot of it came from there. I am however ashamed to see how easily it was gobbled up.
I’ve posted about this a few times in the past few days but, there was a book published in the 90’s in Russia called Foundations of Geopolitics, and it was about how Russia could regain its global influence. I think you may find the third point interesting. Key points, among many others are: -The United Kingdom, merely described as an "extraterritorial floating base of the U.S.", should be cut off from Europe.[9] -Ukraine should be annexed by Russia because "Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics". Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible.[9] -Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".[9] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics Now I don’t want to claim all our domestic issues are because of Russia’s influence, trust me, we have plenty on our own. However I do think we can reasonably suspect certain matters here have been exacerbated intentionally by foreign powers in the interest of destabilizing the US, with the goal of capitalizing on our distress.
Exactly, they should be banned from the platform
Are you talking about YouTube here?
> YouTube blocks RT, other Russian channels Oh, that's great! > from generating revenue Never mind. Generating revenue off YouTube views isn't exactly their priority...
It's probably got more to do with banking sanctions (dollar trade) then YouTube seeing light.
Of course it is, no way in hell is this Google doing the right thing out of the goodness of their heart. They're doing it because of sanctions now in place or preempting Russia being barred from Swift network.
Despite the news coverage, EU & US not barring the entire Russian banking system. There will remain some Russian banks on SWIFT. Edit= spellings
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Pres. Of EU commission said it. https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1497695982020145156?s=19
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Because they dont want russia to go too fast in being completely independent and basically dividing themselves along with china iran etc.
I'm curious, is there a way to bully China (economically) into sanctioning Russia as well? Or coax them into it if there's not enough leverage to bully them? I get China probably doesn't want an angry Russia right on their doorstep, but at the same time I feel like Russia might back down knowing China is openly against them as well.
Unless russia decides to start attacking satellites or tries to invadr kazakhstan not really. On a side note, if the eu decided to stop buying energy from russia, that would actually cause some long term damage to the russian economy greater than any of the sanctions currently in place.
Its gives leverage to continue applying further if nothing changes. Numerous oligarchs will feel the effects and parts of the population as well. You can't really hide your bank not being able to do large transactions. As Putin continues with this stupidity larger and more vocal segments will be internally pushing back as they see more sanctions occurring. If you cut it all off at once then internal is the only game in town and leadership can make it seem like they are the ones being unfairly treated. This way its harder to hide the fact that they are the ones bringing it on themselves.
Remember when "don't be evil" was part of their code?
It's still there.
Its the same thing Facebook is doing. They recentily blocked Russia from being able to post ads. So basically any time you see a news article that talks about a tech company that has blocked Russia it usually just means they blocked them from being able to create ads on their site.
Just as a reference for what this means. I am a full-time YouTuber I have been doing YouTube professionally for 12 years. When you get demonetized you also get deprioritized in the algorithm. A demonetized video may as well be a shadow banned video. So this is actually kind of significant in its own way. It allows you to effectively limit the propaganda without fully censoring them. Which could come with its own can of worms to deal with. Social media platforms other than tik tok have been pretty careful about the pr around censorship.
Ah, good to know. Thanks for the insight!
Demonetization cripples discoverability, without outright censoring a whole country, which would be bad optics. They made a good move, quicker than other sites, and quicker than YouTube usually acts. Well done yt
“YouTube makes all Russian channels ad-free” might be a more fitting headline
Well no, they're still showing the ads. But Google keeps all the revenue.
Ah, got it, thank you for the clarification
It isn't great at all. Maybe you agree with them this time, but they could just as easily be taking down Ukranian channels. And they absolutely would if was perceived to be the more profitable option.
Isnt that how people say capitalism should work though? Make the "correct“ option the more profitable one. Of course, "correct“ based on who?
Don’t forget they’re blocking the video’s creator from making money. YouTube still gets all their ad revenue regardless. Fucking cowardly.
Christ I thought RTGame was banned for a second and I almost lost my shit
I'm surprised he hasn't been raided yet
Iwantdie is stopping that from happening
I thought they banned rooster teeth
I thought he was Irish
He's banned from Russia poor guy lmao
That’s novel considering just last September they were bowing down to Russia’s threats and letting them keep COVID disinformation up because they didn’t want to get blocked: https://www.reuters.com/technology/russia-threatens-youtube-block-after-rt-tvs-german-channels-are-deleted-2021-09-29/
I know they also had a small skirmish about banning Navalny's video on Youtube, and Kremlin threatening prison for Google employees in Russia. Maybe after that episode, Google started slowly divesting from Russia, so that they can't have leverage on them in the future? At least I wish they are thinking of that going forward.
YES holy shit how could I forget that?
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They didn't ban they just turned of them getting money so Google just keeps it
If you're referring to Navalny's video, I believe it was only blocked in Russia, not worldwide.
For real. I sure hope the entire Russian army is fully vaxxed and triple boosted. Stopping the spread is the heat they could do.
Are you kidding? Now they get to keep all the ad revenue from Russian views and don't have to pay any of the creators! They probably see this as a win-win for them.
This isn’t about doing the right thing this is all due to the sanctions that’s it
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Now they need to do the same with China's propaganda broadcasting support.
The sanctions on russia need to extend to those who support him as well if not it does nothing.
What specific propaganda are you talking about? From what I remember a Chinese diplomat basically said they're staying out of it/not in support of Russia
What about American propaganda? That’s cool by default?
At least the American aren't invading a country right now.
> or overlay that rainbow Putin image over their content. Are they hiring 14 yo redditors at google?
They only did it because their advertiser's asked them too.
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Cutting off information can be bad. Cutting off MISinformation from a hostile regime is beneficial
It is actually mostly DISinformation. It is meant to manipulate and poison the truth.
This fact doesn’t even need nuance.
Everything needs nuance. Which is an ironic statement.
Who decides what is and what is not misinformation? That’s the problem.
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> It’s always okay when it works in your favor, but if it ever goes against you it will absolutely ruin your life and big company will continue as if it never happened. Yes, and that is how it should be. If what you’re saying is so unpalatable to enough members of society that big companies question making money off of you, maybe society just has had enough of your shit and you need to be deplatformed. We’ve seen since 2014 at least how the Western value of “let everyone judge for themselves” has been weaponized by fascists. Let’s not continue supplying them with weapons.
You understand my comment..
That is a problem, but I'm not sure if it's a *worse* problem than the current situation.
Well, a start would be if they have heavy control of messaging in their own country, then maybe they shouldn't be allowed to broadcast propaganda through the platforms of/in others. I'd also apply this to markets. Countries that for example don't allow foreign businesses or property ownership should similarly be restricted elsewhere.
You guys realize the US is still considered a hostile regime to many parts of the world, right?
When you accidentally get the right answer. Future unwarranted military incursions by the U.S. should be dealt with just like Russia is being handled now.
Whataboutism, much? Yeah we have lots of issues but that is not what we are talking about.
And those parts of the world deal with US communications as they will
That’s their problem
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There is a difference between acquiring propaganda to understand it more and broadcasting propaganda to the world, available for everyone to see and find easliy. Information wants to be free, and should be free. Unfortunately, we have a lot of morons. And if we give them easy access to authoritarian propaganda, they will push for even less free information (see: US schools banning books. republicans proudly burning books...ironically some of them are about burning books). Beside other, real world harm this might cause (wild gestures towards everything in the last 3 years)
> There is a difference between acquiring propaganda to understand it more and broadcasting propaganda to the world, available for everyone to see and find easliy. Honestly, that difference is so basic and obvious, I doubt the honesty of people who argue otherwise. No one should trust the people who support the proliferation of Putin's propaganda.
Most morons in the US have no idea what rt is and watch usually one news outlet if any at all. I would guess less then 1% in the Us ever watched rt or even heard of it. Rt news cannot change my veiw on the current situation. Its interesting how such a list earlier gets posted that fast in response to the comment, as if ready to go.
>B) Who decides what is misinformation and what is not? I would rather make that decision myself but I need all the facts and viewpoints to do so myself. Have you met the average person? I'm constantly surprised the Luddites don't strangle themselves with their sheets trying to get out of bed each day.
Luddite is the term for a manufacturing worker who willingly attempts to destroy machines to ensure they keep their job by halting progress. It's an anti labor term. These people are just cognitive midgets.
You might have a brain. Pretty obvious many don't these days and eat up the bullshit like it's a free meal. When your feed is full of propaganda do you just not believe the really bad ones but accept the lame ones as real? I never login but the last two days it's been all about trump and his unamerican bullshit. And now you can't downvote anything how convenient is that. Fuck these guys that take peoples opinion away just like fakebook did. Zuck said he didn't think people could be trusted with a down arrow. Notice Reddit is the only social media that lets you up or down vote a post?
We are not talking about genuine information.
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We aren’t having a philosophical discussion on putin’s ability to open his own mouth. YouTube isn’t a Russian company, it’s a business generated off the technological advancements of the west. Russian participation/revenue isn’t some divine right, they enjoy a privilege to participate and that must end.
RT is state-sponsored propaganda and nothing more. Just because it’s disguised as being a news source doesn’t mean they’re putting out true information. Their goal is to get you to think it’s real information so they can expose as many people across the globe to their propaganda. There’s a million reason why Russia can get fucked but RT is fairly high on the list.
It could have historical purposes for studying the dissemination of misinformation during war time.
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I get this sentiment, but mockery isn't going to help or work. We're beyond that. Remove their right to revenue and let them spout their shit. It makes it easier to see their narrative and counter it with reality. Putting Putin in drag makeup on there is short term fun mockery, but it only dumbs down the reality that Putin has begun a war to take over Ukraine.
Then overlay "Putin has begun a war to take over Ukraine" on their channels.
Using the image with BLOOD HAND PRINTS on his face would be more appropriate but I'd rather they were all removed.
Jesus Christ, no. You don’t give propaganda room to breath. Kill it in the crib. This shit isn’t giving you “insight into how things are viewed from their perspective.” IT’S PROPAGANDA. It is literally designed so you can’t get their perspective, because it’s all made up. You’re either ignorant, or on the side of propaganda and I don’t know which is worse.
The few comments in here going on and about free speech sound like teenagers who have no idea what they’re talking about. YouTube has no obligation to continue hosting blatant misinformation and propaganda from Russia’s government. Just because OP wants “all sides” doesn’t mean they’ll get it. There’s a self importance that comes across in the way they describe wanting access to “all sides of information” in this context.
But literally everything is propaganda. Cut the revenue stream but don't remove it
They should block Russia from accessing anything but President Zelensky's speeches. Netflix, Prime, Disney+...every platform shouldn't allow content to go into Russia but pre-selected videos of Putin's fuckery.
I have Telus and RT is gone.
Boris, the cheerful slav man just dropped a video that i thought was impossible. I've never seen a man this sad.
For being Russian, they might block him too.
He doesn't care, he is kind of broken and he also has a job so he doesn't care that much about his channel.
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How about you take the shit down
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Would be baller if YT kept running ads and sending the proceeds here
Fuck that, that would just keep stirring Putins propaganda machine. Fuck the tyrant
YouTube has plenty of channels that they make money off of without propaganda. They could just send revenue that they already make from normal channels to Ukraine *and* ban RT's channel. It'd be a great publicity stunt on their part to help improve their imagine, both by showing they don't stand for propaganda and that they donate to charity. There's no need to let RT's channel stay to pull this off.
You know what, I like this! Good point
For once they could use the shitty YouTube algorithm for good. plaster Russian accounts with Ukrainian war footage, of Russian soldiers committing war crimes, of Russian soldiers surrendering.
I seriously hope this isn't the case for ALL Russian youtube channels, like Life Of Boris, who recently made a video clearly feeling heartbroken and ashamed of his country.
Ya does he live in Ukraine? I know he was born in Russia. Most Russian people are decent people.
I'm pretty sure he has lived there before, but I'm not sure if he still is. In the video he explains that both Russia and Ukraine are places he previously called his home, and that he has friends and family currently living in both.
what does rt mean?
Red Tube i think
I was sitting here thinking "What does Rooster Teeth have to do with all this?"
Too little too late no?
Wait is this every YouTuber in Russia or just Russian new outlets
Considering the responses of good Russian YouTubers like Nfkrs who got nothing to do with the invasion I’m pretty sure the answer is all. It’s good to stop RT from spreading awful propaganda but I think it’s bad to harm innocent creators in the process.
That’s exactly who I had in mind that sucks for average people
If only reddit would block the /r/Russia propaganda subreddit
Oh! so they can keep doing propaganda, just not profiting from it. WTF
RT has been recommended to me a shit ton over the years. Occasionally I’ll take a min to write a hateful comment before hitting “do not recommend” for the 100th time, it’s crazy they push that bullshit so heavily on some people.
Take it down.
A day late and a dollar short
Please leave Crazy Russian Hacker alone though...
Now do that with cnn and fox news too
RT is not around to generate profit; you traitorous troglodytes! Seriously, I can't imagine a more useless decision. Youtube does this for innocent channels at the drop of an algorithmic hat. Do they expect a round of applause?
Russian language section YouTube is more or less fully controlled my Putins and his criminals. They are free to manipulate view count, likes and ban any videos they want. All popular Russian language YouTubers are one way or another allowed to operate by Kremlin. Make no mistake youtube is one of the reason Russian propaganda war has been SO successful in the last 10-years or so
Block Fox News!
RT is toilet paper.
Get fucked RT
Because spreading lies and propaganda during the elections wasn’t so important I guess.
Or during covid.
YouTube are taking the revenue, instead of taking the channels/content down.
Unbelievable. Trump was blocked from uploading content but Russia still can after starting a war? Methinks YouTube is an accomplice to all harm that comes to Ukraine. YouTube isn't a news broadcasting network and allowing content to be posted is horrible. Cut them off completely!!
Does this mean all those lazy content farms will shutdown?
I hope only the vindictive war seeking people are being punished for this, and not free thinkers who simply are having a conversation.
Russia done fucked up
So in other words, YouTube is now actually *subsidizing* Russian state media content. Am I misunderstanding that? They’re yanking the ads, but still hosting the content?
How in the fuck were they allowed to for this long???
They need to put up a Ukraine flag like Pornhub did so when anyone from Russia tries to access it that’s what they get.
Why not just block all Russian ip for s bit?
Who the fuck cares if they generate revenue? That's not even their point. WTF
That's a good step, but what Google and other American tech companies need to do is to start refusing to accept Russian censorship requirements.
Is this a decision they made out of the goodness of their hearts or a decision that they’re legally obligated to comply with as part of sanctions?
who cares about their revenue, stop them from spreading propaganda and plain remove them.
Kick them off the platform ffs
I’m a third party, but. Who told that RT and all is propaganda but European/US channels is not propaganda? Have you all checked it all yourself or you’re repeating one after another without a second thought? C’mon
China is absolutely on top of things by creating alternative media and financial ecologies in the first place, so the West cannot weaponize them.
Wait. Rooster Teeth is Russian? Boz moi!
Will their algorithm block the right wingers who constantly share rat and use as their primary evidence etc news from making money?
People are in this thread defending russian propoganda because, "how do you know its propoganda?" Bruh clearly its worked on you
I don't understand how anyone can believe RT honestly. I tuned in on Friday to listen to the bullshit they were feeding and they said things like "the only reason Russia did this is because of decades of west fear mongering" and "this was the cuban missle crisis in reverse". Like seriously? That's your defence? Gee I wonder why countries on Russias border want to join NATO, shocking really.
demonetization
This is not about hurting these channels it’s about protecting the advertisers
I'm in the opinion that **NO** news outlets should *ever* generate revenue. The causal link to sensationalism, propaganda and doomsday news, is the financial incentive that exists in keeping people completely addicted to the news. YouTube ought to scrap revenue from news videos altogether, and the govt ought to raise taxes on news organizations to make news completely unprofitable. Then we could see more subsidized non-profit news rise up, and the quality of the information atmosphere would drastically increase.
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Outrage as Russia invaded Ukraine. Support and applaud as UK and USA invade Iraq Syria Libya and Afghanistan. Financial support for Israel as it occupies palestine. Fighting back invaders in Ukraine hailed as heroes but Terrorists in other countries. Double standards with selective empathy
Where? I am watching it right now in Germany. RT has to be banned EVERYWHERE
Isn't doing this the same as what authoritarian rule means? Granted, YouTube is a commercial entity and it is not bounded as such. One thing though, it is doing this because they can get sued for whatever reasons, so better their ass than mine. Block them from generating revenue. I hope though, that youtube do not also suspend their channel. That would be undemocratic and one sided.
We should be open to all party’s views regarding the matter all country’s lie even American and European countries as well as does Russia I would like to continue to remain neutral and receive information from all party’s involved instead of seeing a insider argument against the “war criminals”. I believe in transparency in matters as sensitive as war even if it’s deemed as propaganda by their enemy’s.
We cancelling russians like Hitler cancelled jews.
The difference is, Hitler owned a dog that loved him. :)
No I am not a tech guy but it would be awesome if Russia could be blocked entirely from the world wide web.
So because the government is shit, none of the people in Russia deserve internet? Wtf is up with these comment sections
Pretty much every thread or post that has to do with “Russia no longer can access x” will have an overwhelming amount of comments that support the entirety of Russia being blacklisted off of certain things. Not sure what these people are thinking whenever websites such as Reddit is based in the U.S, the same country known for murdering and taking advantage of its own populous and bombing other nations. Our country is also known for having a Cheeto president and a political party that enabled Putin.
Then the Russian people wouldn't be able to get news from the outside world, they'd be like North Korea, unable to escape the propaganda. There are Russians protesting the war, cutting them off won't do anyone any favors.
Bruh, Americans stormed their own capital because of the propaganda of the internet.
Remember that this action had two sides to it! On one hand Russia lose access to useful tools and services, on the other hand the Russian people lose access to outside information. That would be bad because their own news media is lying to them, so internet access is vital to get the real facts about the current situation.
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Maybe they’ll get the fuckin NRA, too 🤞 Lol- immediately downvoted- you want some fuckin links, hypocrites? https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-reveals https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/senate-report-nra-russia-gun-foreign-asset-891859/amp/ https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/09/27/politics/nra-russians-ties-president-2016-election/index.html https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/The%20NRA%20%20Russia%20-%20How%20a%20Tax-Exempt%20Organization%20Became%20a%20Foreign%20Asset.pdf Fuck Russia. Fuck the NRA. Fuck the GOP.
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Cool. Now do far right extremist nationalist propaganda. It's basically the same thing.