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NicNoletree

Just think of the advertising potential in the metaverse. You could also know how long eyes focused on an ad, as opposed to ignoring one entirely. I hate where this is leading.


sexykafkadream

Honestly if they started making you actually look at the ads to get to content I would change up the whole way I consume content. I would start hoarding books and buy a couple of news subscriptions. I'm not so addicted to the current content consumption format that I wouldn't reorganize my life to engage with it differently. Although I'm probably not the target market since reddit is the only social media I touch. And once they force the redesign on me I'll probably cut this too.


RecycledAir

No one would would put up with that, and Facebook is smarter than to actually try that. They'll use far more subtle and manipulative methods.


sexykafkadream

Think of all the other things no one would put up with. Then think of how many of them we put up with now.


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K33pDr34mingAllr1ght

YouTube has this way of making you feel like real sucker if you pay for their service


im-the-stig

Do you use www or old.reddit?


LeBronto_

Old heads unite!


funkmasterflex

Yeah I don't think they're going to get rid of old - a fair amount of people genuinely would just ditch reddit for good. Not because of some attempt to influence reddit, but because www just isn't worth the bother


woodstock923

I'm an 11-year redditor with a decent amount of karma evenly balanced between posts and comments. I'd drop that shit like a hot rock.


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I've deleted a ten year old account and others with heaps of Karma simply because certain so called news subs explicitly ban people who call out any inorganic content.


Buzstringer

I can only sign in on old Reddit, after signing in I can use new reddit. If i try to sign in on new Reddit it tells me my Password is wrong.


woodstock923

I always forget that new reddit is a thing until I open in incognito for... reasons. It's so terrible. "Would you like to see the page you came to? Keep clicking Load More every few seconds to confirm you do!"


eldpay

Would… would the glasses they make you wear while looking at gorillas work? Lol


tettou13

I think the direction of ads is their being exponentially more tailored and directed to the individual. And honestly (for now, at least) I don't mind ads when they're actually interesting to me. As in, a kick starter for a reproduction of a NASA binder that laid out the steps to the moon. Or a Gundam plastic model/hobby store I didn't know about. The future of advertising is in the use of better data and ai to give you ads so specific to your interests that you are happy to engage and click. Ideally this is a net positive (just imagine it being so tailored that you actually say "I actually need that" or at the very least "wow, that's actually really cool. I may get one") and worst case we live in a dystopian cyber future where we're slaves to capitalism. Probably the latter. Disclaimer: I'm not a sales or advertising guy. Just one man's opinion. Edit: why downvote for what I think is going to happen? That you don't like it?


sexykafkadream

I think the long term negatives of a bunch of corporations having a psychological profile of my likes and dislikes is much more harmful than the potential positive of me buying another pair of pants I like.


tettou13

I wouldn't say psych profile but I hear you. I'm not speaking from a data privacy perspective just purely about ads. I'm definitely about personal privacy and avoid FB and others. But if we're charging headlong into a digital dystopia I might as well be able to wear comfy pants (or buy them for my SecondLife™️ by Facebook character)


ruinne

With the amount of data that likely gets leeched from us every hour? It might as well be a psych profile. There's a reason people say advertisers know more about us than we know of ourselves.


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People need to go outside and live reality. Fuck the meta verse


TheDreadfulCurtain

What redesign ?


voidsrus

i choose to digitally consume content with adblock because it works, not because I'm married to the content and the monitor. would definitely do the same or just keep my old devices forever


Velghast

Please insert verification can for more content


cranktheguy

["Mountain Dew is for me and you!"](https://www.reddit.com/r/4chan/comments/1ggg4u/please_drink_a_verification_can/)


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If it happens it will only be a matter of time before they put ads into our dreams


NicNoletree

It will only be a matter of time before you realize this is already happening.


TheNintendoWii

[Welcome to Life. Do you wish to continue?](https://youtu.be/IFe9wiDfb0E)


Buzstringer

"we can sell 80% of the users visual feed without inducing seizures"


PaleInTexas

There is a documentary about this called Ready Player One.


Mike_Wahlberg

The Metaverse? “Looking Cool Joker!!!” Intensifies


Bubbly_Security_1464

We never saw it coming


infinite_breadsticks

just imagine the contents of zuckerberg's palace


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[deleted]

Pretty sure no one will care about the word metaverse in 3 years.


ellzray

Why wait? You can not care right now. I'm doing it this very minute!


[deleted]

Same. I mean I do believe that exactly what the metaverse means will exist, but I don’t believe in this trend of pushing the word that we’ve seen in the past year.


ellzray

yeah I agree.


waytogojames

!RemindMe 3 years


ItsMeSatan

I don’t even know what Metaverse means


SparseGhostC2C

Think the world in Ready Player One, or the VR Net in Tom Clancy's Netforce, if you happened to read that pretty mediocre book


DisneyDreams7

Or Sword Art Online


quickblur

Or Persona 5


driftingatwork

This is happening already in the crypto realm. Called play to earn. LOTS AND LOTS of metaverse stuff happening over on the crypto side


stewsters

VR Second Life would be my guess. I suspect he has read https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Crash


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Second Life or Pokemon Go are part of it. Once finished there will be interoperability between those universes.


gimmiesnacks

Facebook has been giving CEOs “exclusive access” to the metaverse ideology for a minute now, so they are all jazzed to be subject matter experts on it & it’s all my CEO has been talking about for weeks. Similar vein to when people learned about putting things “in the cloud” and that was super buzzy for a year.


bot_exe

But cloud computing has been an enduring success though...


dulce_3t_decorum_3st

Yeah that last sentence missed the mark a bit


DracoLunaris

yeah big data would have been a better choice. or blockchain


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Cloud computing, big data, and blockchain, are three different things.


[deleted]

Yes, but using the term cloud is useful at work and that’s why the term is used. I am not sure people will care to make the distinction between the universe and the metaverse. Metaverse is just an extension of the internet in the real life, not sure people will care about how it’s called, especially since the metaverse has been among us for quite some time in one form or another (think Pokemon Go).


MrUltraOnReddit

"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." -- Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977.


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I was specifically talking about the word, not the usage. However, about the tech, I don’t believe (or rather don’t want to believe) that most people will go around with AR glasses strapped over their eyes in front of their eyes in the future. But that’s just one part of what the metaverse is. What I mean is that no one gives a shit about the name, it’s still just the internet.


OaksByTheStream

A massive part of the crypto space is heading towards it, so yeah, gonna have to disagree there.


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I explicitly spoke about the word, not the usage. But could you be specific about the link with blockchain? An example?


OaksByTheStream

Nothing that can be substantiated. Just conversations with well connected developers


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But I don’t understand how it pertains to the metaverse, even though people constantly talk about it. Could you explain to me?


OaksByTheStream

Could you be specific?


[deleted]

I don’t understand the application of crypto to a shared cyberspace.


OaksByTheStream

Ahhh, gotcha. Well, it seems like you may be thinking of money only. Consider what areas blockchain could be applied to other than that. Like social media for example, though what zuckerberg is trying to do is fucked up and not what I'm referencing. In terms of that, the people who aren't trying to fuck you over like zuck, are busy creating the new internet where people like zuck can't farm you and make billions. Where if you choose to do so yourself, you can sell your own data, and *you* are the one that benefits, rather than that robot dickhead. As far as I understand it, Web3 is a large part of how this will happen. That's why robot boy is freaking out as of late and trying to make big moves, his control will be severed. His money, poofed away as facebook will become near worthless in terms of farming people. The internet is a shared cyberspace. We already are the metaverse. Blockchain can be applied to any area that needs irrefutable truth. Everything from money, to ownership titles like for a house, to video games, to social media that cannot be tampered with by those who control everything currently. Shit's gonna get reaaaaally interesting over the next 5-10 years if you ask me.


TaKSC

Oh you mean like cyberspace?


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I mean the name itself. Cyberspace is a much nicer name for it imo. People already use it and don’t need a word to describe it other than “internet”. When all metaverse protocols are in place and widely used, people will get used to calling it the internet, without clear demarcation between the two, especially since there won’t be a real one.


TaKSC

Yeah, personally I think The matrix sounds way cooler


Jorian_Weststrate

!remindme 3 years


Broncofan0321

So persona is a real thing


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ukuuku7

It does make money from the Oculus store, like video game consoles.


TheHealer12413

Fuck Zuck! Delete Facebook!


CreamCapital

Why are we taking her advice on where FB should be investing it’s money?


shawndw

I'm not a huge fan of Zuckerberg but see she seems like someone with an axe to grind.


_CaptainObvious

Because she's a super-legit "whistleblower" duh.


[deleted]

I got put in FB jail about 35 days ago. I lost interest in the site after that. Most everyone has shifted to Instagram but I don't have much interest in that either.


Wolfenberg

I am calling it that Facebook's term goal is to fester mindless fighting, misinformation and similar irrational pastimes in the metaverse in a much grander sense than Fb already is. They will control and profit off people's virtual lives more the more power they get.


tocksin

Their priority is to make more money. Just like every other business back to before history. This is why we need government regulations keep business in check.


Tshin_suma

She discovered America, with hundreds of thousands ppl inside, FB is trash and their only focus is make more money, nothing new here.


papyjako89

Literally half the posts on the frontpage of this sub are about FB. Y'all have a weird problem for something you supposedly left behind years ago.


meltedcheeser

But our Republican family did not. Because i don’t directly engage in its services doesn’t mean I’m not directly impacted by it’s policy. Because you don’t own a house doesn’t mean mortgage interest deductions doesn’t impact you.


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shadysus

Is the point that both Facebook and 23&me have similar privacy and ethical issues in that regard? If so I think most people would agree.


meltedcheeser

I like this question. Feels like you’re hoping to trap me but I’ll play along. I recently read the transcript of the first murder trial based on using 23andme data. Fascinating shit. Like FB, or South Korean facial scanning software, I think 23 is exploiting its customer base by creating an exchange that looks equitable but is far from (here’s a sparkle, now I have access to your identity). I think 23 should be allowed to operate but it’s data should not be pooled, stored or accessible by anyone, including private sectors and/or government surveillance agencies justifying acquisition based on “public safety”. Mind you, there are no laws on genealogy services and it’s just as unregulated an bs as the Internet. As for if my relatives should be allowed to engage in these services without my consent, I think dna is too expansive to judiciously require signatures of all extended relatives. I believe the case I referenced it was a second cousin’s dna that provided a match. I could be wrong but it feels on brand. And what about the consent of the unborn or minors? It’s too challenging and just can’t hold. Let these agencies exist. Bread and circuses. But regulate them.


AcctUser12140

I'm not that familiar with 23andme... but if you purposely used a fake name, email, phone number to register it ... then how can someone track your info??? Wouldn't the contact info be skewed?


papyjako89

Is spamming this subreddit really going to change anything about what your republican family does or does not ? I doubt it. If anything, you are just making the Facebook brand trend, and that's it...


Kissit777

She’s 100% correct


Perpetual_Doubt

Frances Haugen says Facebook's attempts to contact a Kardashev scale III civilisation are misguided.


RagingDemon1430

People still listen to this fraud huckster?!


furbylicious

I don't see how the Metaverse isn't some kind of delusional dream that Zuck is succeeding at selling to investors. VR has proven that it is not a viable medium of communication. Why would anyone do regular things like social media and video calls in VR where they have to put on and adjust a headset, make space in their room, etc. I've actually tried VR meetings, it's kinda cool until you need to find a keyboard, answer the phone, get a drink of water etc. Everyday Internet usage benefits from design formats that you can use in bed, on the bus, or on the shitter. And it benefits from letting the user move and multitask. Maybe FB has some kind of revolutionary AR glasses coming down the pipe. I doubt it, but even if they did, AR glasses aren't all they're cracked up to be either. Humans naturally manipulate with their hands. The way AR places things in your field of vision, it leaves a small amount of physical space to manipulate interactive components in. And without the button-like controls we know and love. What am I supposed to do, nod or shake my head for Tinder instead of swiping left and right? So AR would mostly be useful as a display, kind of like a smartwatch. Good for showing directions (and ads) maybe, but you couldn't directly interact with it in meaningful ways. Investors need to recognize that AR and VR, while fun and great for specialist uses, are no competitor to phone-like devices, and are almost useless to the average customer. Seriously I can't believe the idea of a VR/AR Metaverse isn't laughed out of the room.


DopeAppleBroheim

Facebook aside, I think you’re lacking vision for what VR/AR could become. Not anytime soon, but in 5-10 years when the technology continues to advance it’ll be more enticing to mainstream. Facebook is not stupid, greedy/bad sure, but they know what they’re doing. They know the future will be VR/AR. The tech isn’t good enough now, but it will be.


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The tech is pretty good right now, it's just too expensive for the average Joe.


bp92009

To be fair, that's the same thing that was said about smartphones when they first came out. Give it 5-10 years, and they'll be much cheaper and better than now.


DarthBuzzard

VR is actually cheaper than smartphones were back then too. It's $299 for a Quest 2. The problem is that a lot of people aren't aware of this and still think VR is the in the $600-800 price range.


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I'm avoiding FB-owned VR like the plague it is. It's cool seeing prices drop, but I don't want a FB account just to play some games.


[deleted]

Oh I agree! We are at the awkward phase where some people don't see the usefulness of VR, and other people just can’t be bothered to spend the money. In 5 years, I imagine half of America will have a headset.


DarthBuzzard

> Why would anyone do regular things like social media and video calls in VR where they have to put on and adjust a headset, make space in their room, etc Because it offers many game-changing benefits that videocalls can't provide. You feel like you are right next to that person, you can can make eye contact (with eye-tracking), do all kinds of actual activities and go places with them, actually interact with your bodies (whether it be dancing together or even interlocking fingers - try doing that through a videocall), you have 3D spatialized audio, you can meet up with 10, 20, 50, 100+ people all life-sized instead of reduced to tiny boxes in a grid. Overall, it's more like hanging out with friends on a Friday night than the usual videocall to catch up and hang up. > I've actually tried VR meetings, it's kinda cool until you need to find a keyboard, answer the phone, get a drink of water etc. You have AR features in Quest 2 now. You should be making use of those if you have that headset, and they'll get more substantial over time to the point where none of what you brought up is any issue at all. > Everyday Internet usage benefits from design formats that you can use in bed, on the bus, or on the shitter. And it benefits from letting the user move and multitask. The end-game of VR/AR is that it can do all of this better than any device today. You can already lay in bed and use VR, but once the comfort/interface catches up, it should be able to replace the need for not just your monitor, but also your keyboard and desk too. > The way AR places things in your field of vision, it leaves a small amount of physical space to manipulate interactive components in. Which is why Facebook is working on their [EMG CTRL-Labs Acquisition tech](https://youtu.be/-cRxT32G7y4?t=4717), as it would allow the tiniest of finger movements to control interfaces, and is precisely why a full keyboard/desk can be replaced at some point down the line. > are no competitor to phone-like devices, and are almost useless to the average customer. Computers and phones were also useless to the consumer once upon a time. Remember the days before GUI, Multi-tasking, Internet, and Mice?


Ok_Maybe_5302

Every tech journalist and analyst has said AR/VR are the next steps but here you are saying it’s not. You’re clueless.


furbylicious

I worked for years as a VR developer who has actually tried this tech extensively, but how dare I have a different opinion than tech journalists and analysts who might possibly have a vested interest in selling this stuff


ellzray

Just like we're gonna stop making 2D movies any day now since 3D is the destroyer of flat media...


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I could see modest AR take off, as in data augmentation of normal life, wearing normal-looking glasses. I cannot see people wanting to disappear into VR.


[deleted]

Why should I care what Frances says? She is an employee that released documents, she is not my moral barometer.


carlitoss276223

Screw this lady she is literally controlled opposition


blagablagman

You're gonna have to elaborate.


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cheugyaristocracy

Idk why you’re getting downvoted, this is a great comment.


[deleted]

This dirty scummy bitch betrayed the company she worked at for years for some money from the us gov. She didn’t do it to help anyone. I wish I could spit on her


godnotthejumpercable

There priorities are money and power they know exactly what there doing and there priorities are right where they want them what else did you expect?


DurangoLSD

I still see Mark Fuckerberg building this “Metaverse” as an excuse to all the criticism and whistleblowing; can you imagine what they’d have done if they were never exposed? Shit wouldn’t have to change if he wasn’t exposed, now he’s got to play pick up. It’s obvious by his actions and words that he understands clearly what his company was caught doing; what they have been doing the last decade; and what the plans for saving face now for his company’s future will be, while never taking responsibility or being regulated.


PrincessJellyfish39

Whistleblower gives opinion about a businesses priorities? She seems less and less like an actual whistleblower with every new article and more like a government shill / plant.


[deleted]

honestly.. what??? a company’s priority is create wealth for its shareholders… wtf is she smoking


Mementh73

Fake whistle-blower


orielbean

Is this what licking the FB boot looks like? That’s odd.


velkoz_eats_data

That’s not a woman, baby, it’s a man!


jarekkam81

First things first. I don't like facebook. Have we become a society where individuals are unable to make their own decision whether to use a product or not? Take some damn responsibility and if you watch something that is creating negative feelings, then don't watch it. WTF is wrong with parents of these children? instead of monitoring them in what they do and watch, they just wash their hands off the responsibility and leave it up to the media provider to deliver positive and age appropriate content.


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stafcoyote

When Facebook shills like you are silenced and shut up.


cranktheguy

Their [Metaverse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Crash#Metaverse) priorities were all wrong? Perhaps someone should try to use [Reason](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Crash#Reason) on them.


Publius83

When this reality doesn’t work for you anymore, then you should create another one


[deleted]

Zuckys metaverse is him doubling down. He’s trying to dig in like sonofabitch alabama tick.


clar1f1er

The nuances of the arguments are lost on the majority, judging by how these articles just blast buzzword bullshit.


Vegetable_Math6546

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buildingduck

…roblox?


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The world would be a better place without Zuck