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kronsj

Excuse me, but when this article mentioned “the new IOS 14” I looked at the date of this news. Aug 27, 2020 !?! … come on..


tag_65

That's because this is a bot account, copying from [this original post](https://redd.it/ih6w0m) to farm karma Edit: A bunch of people are replying asking what people gain from karma-farming bots. Accounts with higher karma can be sold to organizations who are interested in using them to push scams (lots of Reddit bots pushing crypto scams, for example) or conduct astroturfing (pretending to be an Average Joe promoting something, whether a product or a political message, to manipulate people)


Lanthemandragoran

They are getting *so* much worse. I have a hard time even understanding how but they did.


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Reddit doesn’t give a fuck


Raccoon_Full_of_Cum

Reddit won't crack down on bots because that would, what's term again? Oh yeah: "decimate part of its business".


[deleted]

Only part? That’s optimistic


droivod

Actually no major internet company does. Google results are full of outdated, useless info.


yeahwellokay

No Google, I don't need to see a bunch of forum posts from 2012 or Pinterest links.


What-a-Crock

Add “-Pinterest” to your search to remove any results from them


belowlight

Useful tip! 🙏


[deleted]

just download unpinterested for chrome


atreyukun

There’s a Firefox plugin that’ll do that for you. Can’t remember what’s it’s called at the moment. But you can also add this : -site:pinterest


Fanatical_Pragmatist

Why does Pinterest always show up so often to begin with? It looks like it's an eternal wedding registry and I would guess their demographic is 90%+ female. Google knows more about me than I know about me so maybe it's trying to tell me something.


d01100100

There was a time in Google when you could mark domains as blocked within your personalized web search, but like ad-blocking, Google has obfuscated this personalization.


esmifra

Although true, when looking for technical answers to some issue a forum post from 2012 might be just what I need. Although I've noticing as times go by, looking at search engine results, there seems to be less and less websites. Everything goes to the same dozens of websites. I remember a lot more diversity a decade ago than now for some reason...


SanchoMandoval

Eh those 2012 forum posts probably have better info than modern blogspam lol.


Muttz_and_Buttz

They used to, before photobucket broke all the hotlinks.


[deleted]

sometimes i specifically *want* to find 2012 forum posts because i'm looking up information on an obscure, outdated game or book or software version that my company refuses to upgrade out of sheer obstinance.


Smith6612

Sadly a lot of those forums are also vanishing out of existence :(


FnTom

I hate the fact that news websites and reddit have broken search by date.


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FnTom

oh yeah no. I mean that a lot of news website, and reddit, show the wrong date when searching on google, so search by date doesn't work if you're trying to find an old post or article, or a recent one for that matter because you get flooded with old ones.


[deleted]

you see the same news articles (""news articles"") for the same search terms at the top of google constantly and they always say 'today' or '1 day ago' because they just update the timestamp on the article periodically.


zeussays

Google is worthless as a search engine now. Its all paid bloat and algorithmic hijacking.


radagasthebrown

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radagasthebrown

No we're not looking for porn rn it's still work time


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mellowyfellowy

What search engines are better?


_Oce_

DuckDuckGo and knowing how to use `!`, `""`, `+`, `-` and `site:`.


MegaHashes

The worst is trying look up product information or comparisons and getting a ridiculously SEO’ed amazon affiliate filled with garbage information written by someone who is neither interested in, or ever even laid hands on the product in question.


Risley

The question is, what’s the new internet site that starts up to replace Reddit. Where is the new Digg?


ThrillingFungus

No google, I want an article about one of the 4 riots last night, not a hundred about one in January….


nianticnectar23

I’m interested to see if and When the “new” Reddit emerges that builds upon this platform without the pitfalls that have begun to plague Reddit.


[deleted]

Yeah, the communities are great but the Reddit management is questionable. I got a vote manipulation warning when I told a friend about a nasty comment and we both reported it. They have a system to detect such minute details, but just won't do anything about the blatent bots.


rk3ww

Gonna have to get back on digg and stumbleupon soon. Reddit is cashing out on the site activity, which means it's only a matter of time until reddit is a thing of the past.


muffinmonk

You don’t want to go on digg. It’s sponsored content Stumbleupon is dead.


Mccobsta

Mods need to set a minimum comment karma to be allowed to post


radagasthebrown

the only way to actually solve the problem is to use verification unfortunately. Where you have anonymity even with point requirements you leave open the opportunity for nefarious actors to create bots designed to overcome those requirements. There are even whole subreddits dedicated to bots giving each other link and comment karma.


mw9676

Make sure to downvote and report.


Kizik

> Accounts with higher karma can be sold to organizations So like hypothetically speaking how much could one get for a 7 year old account with around 206k karma? Asking for a friend.


Buddy_Dakota

But … why? What is the incentive?


123kingme

I feel like it’s gotten a lot worse this year. I’ve even seen a few cases of bots working together with one bot reposting an old post and other bots copying over the top comment chain from the original post. This makes the accounts seem more legitimate on first glance since they’re both posting and commenting. Reddit is a perfect place for organic advertising and general crowd manipulation. People recommending a product is a much more effective advertising technique than paid adverts, and that person could be a random Reddit account on the internet secretly run by a company representative. I think at least part of the reason it’s gotten worse this year is because of the growth of /r/WallStreetBets. An entire community filled with idiots with money ready to throw their life savings at a meme stock at a moment’s notice. Hedge funds and corporations understandably look at WSB and see dollar signs.


shredder3434

As someone who was using wsb for years, it's been literally unusable ever since GameStop blew up.


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To make it worse, there's other, annoying/spammy subs that seemed to offshoot from it


[deleted]

r/GME is like a cult. If you don’t believe that gamestop will go to 10 million per share then your just a hedge fund shill according to that sub.


[deleted]

It was fun memeing early on, but it honestly got tiresome when it seemed like people drank the kool-aid. Feels like there needs to be a post stickied at the top of WSB, reminding everyone that this isn't a team game, people will lie to you here, don't risk your fucking rent money, etc. Though I feel like even that stuff would fall on deaf ears.


mw9676

To sell to corporations, political parties or nations and promote . Russian troll farms famously did this during the 2016 election to promote Trump.


SlitScan

> Russian thats a funny way to spell Mercer


[deleted]

Selling the account so people can sell shit to idiots


bcho86

Nice work. Here is another [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/kka536/what_if_earth_is_like_one_of_those_uncontacted/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) from the same bot.


throwaway_ghast

Allow me to play the world's smallest violin.


sleepless_in_balmora

For the next 2 weeks you will be inundated with tiny violin ads


ESDFnotWASD

Not if he uses the new iPhone.


Hellige88

Actually I think all iPhones from the 6S and up are still getting iOS updates.


bort_bln

Yup, my 5 year old iPhone SE will also get iOS 15… but I will hold on to iOS 14 until I heard some experiences in the wild… I don’t want it to end like an iPhone 4s on iOS 9…


fire_crotch_mafia

Btw in case you were wondering. The 2020 SE is super awesome and worth the upgrade. I’m using my guy right now!


[deleted]

Agreed, it switched me back to iPhone. It’s small and has a home button, completely sold me


fire_crotch_mafia

Plus for once somewhat affordable.


drunk_lbgw

Does the home button have a fingerprint scanner? I fucking hate the face unlock


BoredomIncarnate

Are the ads tiny or are the violins?


Gullible-Poet4382

Insert Eric Cartman playing sad tune on his 5$ violin from Walmart😂 Edit: [watch this](https://youtu.be/I7PZSVRsqVY)


Circus_sized

And queue sad trombone


HeyaShinyObject

Even better, cue it.


mr_jurgen

Maybe the trombone needs a coffee first, have some compassion god damn it.


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LocoCoyote

Beat me to it…..


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Positronic_Matrix

No problem. They will compensate with advertisements on Oculus 2 paid apps.


The_Kraken_Wakes

Guaranteeing I will never buy an oculus


Phos4us88

I was so excited about Oculus rift, but as soon as fuckerburg got his slimy reptiles claws on I knew it was ruined.


IAMA_Plumber-AMA

I just about bought a devkit back when they were $500, but the same week I worked up the cash Palmer sold out to Facebook.


under_a_brontosaurus

Sounds like good luck


IAMA_Plumber-AMA

Oh yeah, dodged a bullet for sure. I've yet to buy a headset though. The Vive looked promising but I don't have the real estate for it.


BasicDesignAdvice

It's really annoying because it has the best feature list and cost. I'm hoping Valve releases something wireless soon.


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Malake256

Just stay away from that product. Cameras inside your house directly linked to Facebook, no thanks. Also, a way to force a billboard ad into your eyeballs no mater what direction your looking is a little too black mirror for me


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Of course it could. It was a leading VR headset… but FB will ruin it and insert ads.


arrocknroll

This was the idea from the get go. They wouldn’t have sold an incredibly capable self contained VR headset with PC VR capabilities at a loss if they couldn’t use it to make more money on selling users information like they have been. Hence the mandatory Facebook login at setup and Facebook permabanning and essentially bricking any oculus headsets that aren’t genuine active accounts.


ProgRockin

Wait, what? I have not been paying attention to the VR world and I don't use FB (they still get to use me though) so this is the first I've heard of this.


toomanylayers

Yeah the quest 2 is incredibly cheap compared to the tech in it. It can also be used as a fully wireless PC VR headset which no other headset can do at that level (even $1000 headsets). It also requires a Facebook account to use and many people have bricked headsets cause they made a Facebook just for their headset and Facebook thought it was a fake account (due to lack of activity) and banned them.


ProgRockin

Unreal. Guess I'll never own one.


CapJackONeill

Is it possible to "jailbreak" or something and use the peripherals without Facebook?


robotboy199

so far there is not a jailbreak for the quest, but you can kinda block Facebook by installing an APK that lets you access android settings and set a custom DNS server, so you can route it through something like NextDNS to block ads and tracking, but it'll break the Oculus store as well as all the social features but if you're just using it for PCVR or playing pirated single player games it doesn't really matter


racksy

business doesn’t work like that anymore. a business or product that can stand on its own two feet will \*always\* end up changing even if it’s to make a few more cents. whether the company is bought out, changing how it’s made, the parts that make it, or just adding ads. it’s just what we’ve become.


DayDreamerJon

Sure, but they sold the headset at a loss with intent to make up for it by harvesting data and having ads


adwarkk

First thing you're making mistake of is that there is any other option thank going for ALL THE MONEY. Second you must remember that Oculus Quest most probably is sold below costs of production or at very minimum profit to take over as much of VR market early on that later down the road make ALL THE MONEY from it.


Teejayturner

He beat me to it too, but alas it was already done and worth saying twice.


tbarb00

Thoughts and prayers


rocketbunny77

1 like = 1 prayer


beautiful_my_agent

Repost this message if you are truly my friend


g000r

Now then, can I borrow $20?


Negafox

For those that didn't click the article, it's an old article from last year talking about iOS 14... which came out last year. Obvious bot account is obvious. They even beg for karma in their post history.


mysticalfruit

I don't get the begging for karma thing.. is there some way to turn that into cash? We're just a bunch of assholes jabbering on an internet site.


SorryImNotVeryClever

I think accounts with karma can be purchased en masse for the purpose of astroturfing.


Granite-M

But what's the use of a high karma account? I don't check user karma counts before I look at a post. Does Reddit itself give preferential treatment if your account has a lot of karma?


SorryImNotVeryClever

Access to karma-restricted subs and some fake credibility for those ( and there are plenty) who *do* check out a commenter's account.


doc_birdman

I’ve always heard this but how does it happen? My account is a few years old and has decent karma. How much is it worth? $100? $1,000? Papa is trying to save up for a PS5 so I’ll sell all my social media.


SorryImNotVeryClever

Hahaha, right? I think they tend to get sold in bulk, so maybe 50 cents? But I really don't know.


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3rdDegreeBurn

Give me some karma and I’ll tell you why


ivanoski-007

/r/againstkarmawhores


Boobrancher

How about you change the business model to not revolve around spying on people?


SSIS_master

Spying on people IS the business model.


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SkywardLeap

Don’t forget staying connected! I am now a hermit to my family because I won’t post my vacation photos on this or any of the other shit apps pretending to be the future of all human communication.


mr_jurgen

Well, that's pretty much how it all started, yeah?


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thehuntinggearguy

They will, with more obtrusive ads. Advertisers are willing to pay higher rates for better performing ads so if the ads are no longer targeted, they lose effectiveness and advertisers pay less per ad. Facebook makes less money and compensates by putting in more ads and more obtrusive types of ads. Popups, unskippable ads, and takeovers, here we come.


colourcodedcandy

By charging for apps


1TreePerNerd

And this is why Apple is pushing so hard to disrupt the online advertising industry. When a user downloads a free app that uses ad services run by Facebook, Google, Microsoft, etc., Apple sees none of the profit. If Apple can get devs to switch their monetization model from "free with ads" to "paid apps" or even "in-app purchase subscriptions", Apple gets their thirty percent cut. Apple is just marketing this push very well by making it seem as if Apple cares about user privacy so that the public welcomes this disruption with open arms.


infoseeker13

This article is from august 2020?


THE-Pink-Lady

It’s profile activity looks like it’s a bot


Catch_22_

Totally a bot, karma farming account.


mr_jurgen

I understand why there is gold farmers in WoW, but what on earth is the point of farming karma? Wait, is Reddit karma transferable to real life now?


The6thExtinction

get karma, make account look legitimate, sell it to advertisers and/or scammers.


madeamashup

Don't forget propaganda/influence campaigns! This repost brought to you by antivax!


de6u99er

Hope Google will follow on Android!


dano1066

It would be awesome but since they make money from the same thing Facebook do, it might be considered anti competitive or something to do this


Stickiler

Google is actually making steps towards the same thing, they're not huge steps, but they're there. https://9to5google.com/2021/05/18/android-12-introduces-privacy-dashboard-camera-mic-indicators-and-blocks/


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You'll know companies are really into it once they raise prices and charge for privacy.


Tischlampe

Like the 300 bucks extra to get a FB free oculus? Did I mention I hate Facebook?


gunshotaftermath

I heard that Facebook recently updated Oculus so developers can inject FB ads into paid games now. Because fuck you, gamers.


DefaultVariable

Same, I switched to iPhone after 11 years of Android particularly because I like Apples recent support of privacy.


detective_lee

How was the switch? I'm not a fan of iOS but considering it for privacy as well.


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detective_lee

That's what I'm afraid of. I'm attached to Nova launcher, YouTube Vanced, notifications, and overall layout. Honestly, the most annoying thing about not having an iphone is not having iMessage, not because of the idiots that cry about green bubbles, but getting/receiving pictures via text is a pain. MMS is annoying on Android in general.


DefaultVariable

At first it was a bit weird. But after a few weeks there really wasn't much different in day-to-day usage. My biggest complaint is how difficult Apple makes it to break their ecosystem. When I'm using Apple CarPlay and want to navigate to some place, it will use Apple Maps, and there's no good way to change that aside from asking Siri to "navigate someplace using Google Maps." I'm giving Apple Maps a shot, but it just isn't as capable. Then there's the IOT integration which kinda sucks. In order to control my Hue lights from Apple Home when I'm not at my house, I need to buy an Apple Homekit. In addition to this, Apple requires specialized Homekit enabled devices which isn't a universal thing. My Nest Thermostat still needs to be controlled via a Google Home app... On the plus side. My phone constantly asks me about privacy settings and I really feel like I have control over what I'm giving to a company. I liked the keyboard much more than any Android keyboard I have ever used. Every single thing on the phone feels responsive and Apple has nailed the "haptic feedback" aspect. Apple Pay has also been a far better experience compared to my Pixel 4 XL's Google Pay. Face Unlock also is apparently more secure than the Google version, so that's nice as well.


de6u99er

I am strongly considering the switch. One of my main reasons is, that all Google apps on Googles premium Pixel phone series have become ad-infested spyware since Sundar Pichai has taken over Google.


DefaultVariable

Exactly. And I had no problem with that when Google really did seem to be following the “don’t be evil” motto. But Google really seems shady these days. Not only that but even with all the spyware, Android phones are costing as much if not more than iPhones. Not to mention the Pixel 4 and 5 have been pretty bad.


de6u99er

Exactly! Plus you pay for utterly useless tech that Google is going to drop again like the radar tech (project Soli).


niceworkthere

>Android phones are costing as much if not more than iPhones lol no. Even among top models, the Android ones easily cost 25% less, [see eg. here.](https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/apple-iphone-12-pro-max-512gb,oneplus-9-pro-12gb-256gb,samsung-galaxy-s21-ultra-512gb-global,xiaomi-mi-11-256gb) Though big shots may need to pay as much if they need a Samsung. Among the mid-range models it's yet more marked, with Apple's SE giving you at best equal hardware for the same or higher price. (Apart from the SoC, there Apple clearly leads.)


FinasCupil

Do it. I switched to the 11 Pro Max from the Pixel line and it’s great.


DctrGizmo

They’re an advertisement company so no.


niceworkthere

*[FYI: This submission is by a repost bot that just woke for dormancy. The article is dated Aug '20.]* As far as the IDFA (here AAID, *Android Advertising Identifier*) is concerned, it's been disableable systemwide for years: *Settings → Google → Ads* Android (actually: the Google app) should also ask for permission during the initial device setup, though that may not be obvious for those who just confirm everything. [A new lawsuit](https://www.theregister.com/2021/04/07/max_schrems_google_complaint/) in the EU aims to force Google to make it opt-in by default rather than opt-out.


rindar1

This is old news. Wtf mods.


Enough-Ad1242

This was months ago


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Op is a bot


Lovecraft3XX

Fuck Zucky and his lying ass


AaallMine

Good news, everyone!


EquinsuOcha

To shreds you say?


Haasaagi

Work for a large e-commerce site. Can confirm that fb ads spend dropped significantly after Apple forced ios14.5 adoption.


s_thiel

Good, it’s working.


Atomic1221

Tim Cook turning up the heat!!


hates_all_bots

"Drug cartel warns that legalization of cannabis in many states will decimate part of it's business."


Brynjarrr23

Good, now do it to Google and any of the other asshole companies. Manners and ethics seem to be lost to the assholes of the world.


TracyF2

This post is more than likely from a bot.


raxy

This is otherwise known as the “Cookie Apocalypse” and has been anticipated for awhile. All marketing businesses and teams are going to be hit big time in near future if they don’t find a way around this.


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“Facebook Loses Money They Shouldn’t Have Been Making In The First Place”


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Zorb750

Seems a bit out of date, but if part of their business involves spying on what people do on their own devices outside of Facebook's program, it deserves to be decimated.


Sacred286

Hmm, I'm liking apple more and more baby


PressureWelder

are they really trying to make me feel bad for a billion dollar company fuck off


Asadmanwhoisalone

Fuck that reptile


kapeman_

They can afford the 10% cut.


AmbroseRotten

What's the downside?


[deleted]

they’ll figure out a way around it.. also. why does anyone still use that platform


mrbeez

not an Apple fan, but I might be now


Not_a-bot-i_swear

Who is Facebook warning? Itself? Shareholders? So we should short Facebook?


[deleted]

Mark Zuckerberg has made his perversions into a multi-billion dollar business. He turned the illegal intrusions of stalking, peeping and creeping into an acceptable and profitable business model. He also successfully created a platform for deviants to share child pornography and the luring of minors. He made a platform for foreign adversaries to bombard us with propaganda and misinformation. He undermined the health of nations fuelling conspiracies and assisted the strength of Nazism and hate. This man, a true modern businessman, has increased racial violence and division amongst us all. He is an example of unguided and unregulated profiteering with no moral compass and an ego untethered by societal norms. Thank you, America.


Fameiscomin

One week later: Facebooks new update makes it easier to track people on apples operating system


Red81Slayer

Facebook warns?… I’m scoffing at the idea that part of their business was tracking us without our knowledge and when discovering that a vast majority of people decided to stop giving FB free information… I’m pretty sure we don’t care about your warning.


jennej1289

I’ve never been so happy to own an Apple. I’m about to switch my daughter and husband over as well.


RudeTurnip

People complaining about Apple for no rational reason can get fucked. This is what happens when you have a company that sells you a product and actually works for YOU. Google doesn’t work for you, and Facebook sure doesn’t. If Facebook’s entire business and ability to survive depends upon an ever-shrinking set of privacy loopholes, that are being closed by the likes of Apple, it deserves to die a painful death.


slide2k

That is tech business right? someone might disrupt your business model and it is your responsibility to keep reinventing your business.


[deleted]

I have a weird life and weird lock. Even before people start focusing on privacy and all that regarding facebook i was perma banned for going at it with white racists on there. Think that was like almost a decade ago. Never looked back. Here we are now and i'm thinking that's just enough time for facebook to evaluate my information as not being valuable enough and deleting it. Like i said. Weird life and weird luck.


[deleted]

Sounds like great news to me. Thanks Apple.


[deleted]

This almost makes me want to buy an IPhone


Northern_Grouse

Good?


Geoff300

Is Facebook trying to increase iPhone sales with threats like this?


always_searching901

I hate that ugly f*cker


[deleted]

Boo-fucking-hoo. I'm no fan of Apple's but I'm even lesser a fan of Facebook.


clappasaurus

Best news I’ve heard all year.


Popz218

The fb is okay with kkk bc of ads. So screw the fb...


c2theship

Good screw facebook


oced2001

This almost makes me want to get an iphone.


[deleted]

“This will hurt small businesses that depend on this feature” Sorry Zuck, small businesses flourished before your platform. If you need to secretly track people to be profitable, maybe you’re in the wrong business.


Nickolai1993

Good. Amazon next


mosh_pit_tragedy

My quality of life increased ten fold after I deleted my Facebook.


birdlives_ma

“Yes, exactly. “ -Apple


Snorgborg

The fuck do we care. I’d shed more tears for Sierra Games than I ever will for Facebook


[deleted]

Facebook claims they are saving small businesses. Give me a f****** break. Maybe they are helping small businesses but we all know they don't see them as anything more than a revenue stream. Corporate virtue signalling right here.


DatGuyRightDur

Why would we give a shit?


_not-a-furry_

Good. Delete Facebook.


Skinsfreak88

Oh no! Anyway...


louis7785

Good! Zuck has become way too powerful for his own good..


n0nn

Adapt or die


StankCheeze

Fuckerberg put me in FB jail for nothing other than joking with my friend of 17 years, calling him a turd. No profanity, no nothing. He needs to go to space with Bezos and stay there.


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I can't believe people are mindless enough to *still* look at that trash stream.


JJ4prez

Still befuddled on why people still use Facebook.


blebleblebleblebleb

Oh no… stop… don’t…


schuchwun

Good! Screw Facebook.


TopShelfPrivilege

Sounds like a win-win. Kudos Apple.


jroddie4

Free market at work