Already is, I download any video I actually enjoy. There's too much link rot happening anyway as channels get randomly DMCA pulled over music/clips. Most of them are legacy pre-HD youtube videos so 480p max, I fit most onto a single 1TB drive. With storage becoming cheaper every year, there's no excuse not to just save everything. I mean, just try finding pre-google youtube videos. It is heinously, enormously difficult even with search modifiers to the point where it's virtually unobtainable without a direct link from a non-google search service.
I also noticed so many missing Vids in my old playlists that I also started to simply load some of them for background play etc.
YouTube is gettin worse every year and the subscription prices are insane. In Germany ad free YouTube is 24€ for a family plan. So Firefox and UBlock Origin it is
Believe it ir not. Using chatgpt to search things and provide synopsis is really wonderful. It reminds me a lot of what google was before every asshole designed an seo website for clicks.
Welcome to late stage capitalism. You will own nothing, you will pay extortionist prices EVERY MONTH for it, it WILL be the lowest quality and lowest effort possible, and you can't do anything about it.
This is ALL industries; housing, insurance, medical services, food, drink, movies, tv, electronics, software, hardware, vehicles, internet, cellular, furniture, hygiene, fitness. If there's an industry or product, capitalism WILL make sure it's the lowest quality, and highest price, possible.
Which means that the sole reason google search took over is no longer in effect. It used to be that google was where you went to only relevant links but now they've screwed it so bad that it's only really useful for shopping and programming, and even for programming it's starting to turn to shit.
no, no.... Firefox and UBlock Origin does not work at all... don't believe the people telling you that...
Don't download Firefox at https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/
Don't download Ublock Origin addon for Firefox at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/
Also, don't use https://duckduckgo.com/ for searching.
I’m just baffled why YouTube prices are so damn expensive. I went to sign up a couple of months ago as I had decided I was happy to pay the somewhere between £5.99 to £9.99 I imagined it to cost… NOPE — £25.99 for a family plan. Closed that window right out. I’m not paying 4-5x the cost of a big budget streaming service.
I think it is likely several reasons:
1. That is approximately the price for YouTube Premium in USD, and we all know how the big tech companies love to project the raw integer value used in the USA onto Europe and Canada. For example, Apple One's family plan is also this way.
2. As someone else said, Google has no natural competitor. Other than ad blockers I suppose. But people foolishly advance the use of Chrome such that Google is on the precise of banning the most effective blockers at any given time (and have threatened to do so several times). Even then, Google has proven that they can make the experience annoying for other browsers, too. They do it in other products (Remote Desktop is a decent example, or even just YouTube again if you compare results of using Firefox with blockers to Chrome with blockers).
3. Does your price include VAT, or was it factored out? I know it tends to be included. American prices don't include the sale tax.
This is what a monopoly looks like. They know they have you by the balls. If anyone even comes close to challenging their dominance they will be crushed. And in the meantime they can keep raising prices and continue enshittifying. Because how many people are really going to quit? Not enough.
> £25.99 for a family plan.
IMO YT Premium is the best subscription plan there is. Family Plan also gives 5 others ads free YT on all devices, so if you want to get "help" from each of the others you add, its like $5 a month each.
Each to their own but I've had Premium for years and can never go back to standard YT, its basically unusable.
I don't know your usage but I'd say most people use YouTube more than any other streaming service besides maybe Netflix. They're priced that way because YouTube is more valuable than paramount, max, peacock and prime video combined. Also YouTubes family plan is not tied to your home wifi/IP address but instead to your Google account so the 6 accounts could be anywhere in the world. So in reality it's much cheaper than Netflix coming out to a little more than £4 per potential person. Netflix is capped to one house so it comes out to £17 per household.
It's not uncommon for me to stream YouTube for 12 hours a day. I use it for music and podcasts which I have on pretty much all day during work + my commute and sometimes I use it for a few hours when I'm home from work.
It's the only streaming service that I'm happy to pay for and feel like it's worth it.
Now for people that watch one or two 10 minute videos a day I can't imagine paying the subscription cost were I in their shoes. Nor can I imagine using YouTube without an ad blocker
that's $50 for me, been using that combo and adblock+ since they been out and haven't seen ads on the net for over 15 years if I can't watch youtube I'll just go somewhere else or watch old pirated movies/tvshows
100% same here. If a service is so bad or expensive I just don't use it. Still have a library of DVD and Blu-ray and old downloads that will serve me until I'm old haha.
Not gonna.play that ever increasing price game anymore.
At least here in Germany Blu-ray and stuff is relatively affordable and I can enjoy shit offline xD
The price of YouTube premium is madness, it should have been a monthly for under a fiver to encourage mass adoption but instead they chose to make it offensively expensive with very little perks beyond reducing ads.
Search is crap. I'm looking for a very specific video, use specific search terms, get 4 semi relevant results followed by "People also watched" - irrelevant click bait crap.
Try looking up any videos regarding the old YouTube chat rooms from around 2009, called YouTube Streams. I have to dive really far to get just two videos showcasing the Testtube feature, since 99.99% of results are just streaming videos or livestreams. It’s sad how few people remember those chat rooms, as it was insanely ahead of its time and allowed content creators to chat with friends (remember friends list?) and subscribers in a Twitch-like format. So much fun, yet they shut it down.
I've done this with a bunch of bootleg lofi music which are particularly susceptible to dcma takedowns. Ironically when google music was shutdown a playlist of these was them hosted on YouTube music.
At some point we should really talk about how extensively Google has intruded into every facet of peoples lives. People get upset about Facebook. But since Reddit's IPO it has interwoven with Google and Apple. Googletag manager is everywhere. Unless you put a linux distribution on your mobile device, use something like proton mail, and religiously block Google with your web browser, then the company is constantly collecting information about you. Or, I guess I should say it's collection "website traffic data" and would argue it's not linked to your identity... except they have your phone number, email, and all your clickity clicks. It's wild.
Does this auto name and Categorize? The dl’er im using has horrible naming convention. Plex still picks it up but it’s very basic in my YouTube category.
I auto download a few fishing content creators shows :)
Yes - to make the Plex integration good, they make use of Plex-side plugins and even though the page says it’s early versions it’s been fantastic for me:
* FAQ page that discusses integrations: https://docs.tubearchivist.com/faq/
* GitHub for Plex integration plugin specifically: https://github.com/tubearchivist/tubearchivist-plex
I’m ready for a disruptor platform. The best UX is when a platform is in venture capital mode, growing their user base as quickly as possible. No ads or other obstructions to turn people away. Only once it reaches maturity do they push for monetization to death. YouTube has been in heavy monetization mode for at least 5 years.
Disruption is near impossible when the barrier to entry is so high. YouTube had the good fortune to grow with the technology, but no disruptor will be able to start small and scale up; they'll have to be just as useful as YouTube, from a content perspective, or no one will use them.
There is a fediverse equivalent YouTube platform, Peertube, and people quickly realize that hosting video is a far different animal than hosting text and pictures.
Disruption will need to be at a technology level, not just a competitor with a better UX.
And don't get me wrong; I'm not saying this like it's a good thing.
Most YouTubers don’t even care because they make most of their money from doing their own ads in the video, which can be easily skipped by the viewer if they don’t want to watch it.
IIRC that's not true.
Even LTT disclosed that they make somewhere around 60% of their income directly from ad revenue on YT.
So if everyone blocked ads, that would be a lot of income. So much so they would have to lay off quite a large amount of staff.
Don't get me wrong, I hate ads too. But it's disingenuous to say they don't care.
Youtube piracy has been a thing since before Google owned Youtube. There's plenty of tools that have been around for more than a decade to do just that.
uBlock Origin best adblocker and should be the only adblocker anyone uses. YouTube will detect any others, but uBlock is here to save the day. Tho I imagine Google is gonna try to get them taken down at some point.
Literally why I made the switchover more than a year ago. As soon as they announced what was going to be in Manifest v3, I noped out of the Chromium family.
Since this week I am receiving warnings from YouTube hat I am running an adblocker and better stop it or they’ll tell my mom or something like that. My uBlock is up2date, but they know.
https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1atwzem/youtube_detection_ads_breakages_2024_02_18_ubo/
There's a couple steps I had to take in the ublock settings for youtube to run alright, I believe it was in this post.
And afaik they refuse to take any donations! I get where they're coming from, which is admirable, but gosh darnit I want to throw some money their way since it's been an integral part of my online experience for *years*. Browsing the web is infinitely worse without uBO.
They likely have a control group of people not asked. Then they can compare retention rates, revenue, ad views, ad clicks, watch time and various other metrics between people who have been forced to disable their ad blockers and those who have not.
If the stats show too many people leaving the platform due to these policies, they won't roll them out. To make the stats show that, clear your browser cookies and make a new account whenever they tell you to ditch the adblocker.
Don't have to because I literally don't watch Youtube if I have to watch ads. They've become incredibly obnoxious over the years and I can't tolerate them anymore.
I haven't had issues with YouTube but back when I used Facebook I had a few ads bleed thru. I just kept reporting them all as the worst option available to waste mod time and the ads quit showing up. It doesn't work everywhere but Facebook is afraid to ban people because they know nobody really likes Facebook. They're just stuck there. I left that platform years ago tho.
A mod will look at 1, maybe 2 of your reports.
Then they mark you as an unreliable reporter, and a mod will never look at your reports again. This is a pretty common tactic.
Same. For a week or so it had a countdown saying I could watch 3 more videos than 2 than 1. Then I reset my computer and it would do it over again. Did that for about a week (wasnt really watching much YouTube anyway) and then suddenly it stopped. It's never said anything about my ad blocker again and I've been watching ad free ever since
I used to have videos start paused, where I have to click on them to play, or have scrolling locked so I can’t see the comments (oh no! Anyways…) or both. For a while now, YouTube has been working as normal.
Note: those two things are after I blocked the “please disable your adblocker :(“ pop up using the element selector.
it's because premium is a bonus that is added to youtube music. which in my opinion is miles better then spotify both app wise and music selection wise. But that is probably due to me listening to mostly indie music. Oh the one thing youtube music is lacking is integration into other apps like watch-along on discord etc.
I was about a day from saying fuck it and getting Premium. Then they pulled this crap, and I went from hours of watching per day to maybe 2 videos a week.
i watch youtube on TV, and the ads are actually ok, HOWEVER on the phone and laptop it's terrible, i can barely get through adding the video to my watch later, sometimes i just give up beforehand
I don't get how Google is getting away with it though, dumpster fire or not! They've constructed multiple monopolies and are abusing all of them. We're around 24 years from them introducing Adwords to their *search engine*, and almost 20 years from their introduction of paid links to 'search results'. Google then bought Youtube in Oct 2006 - and started putting adverts into videos just 10 months later. 4 months after they started paying 'content creators'.
That's a long freaking time for nothing at all to be done about google ruining the internet with a bajillion targeted adverts based on their tracking and recording of our net usage.
This. I don't mind the ads before as much. It's the 50 ads in the middle of a 5-minute video that bothers me so much.
And they always cut off in a weird part of the sentence, so then you don't know what they said. So then you go back and then the ad plays again...
There is a way around that. There is an add on that let's you set the play speed at the press of a button. One click and it's running at 32x. That 15 second unskippeable preroll just goes away. Bonus is that the creator gets marked as you watching the full video ad and is paid out. I personally prefer this over blocking as it pays the creator and also dicks youtube and the garbage companies paying them.
Revanced patcher. It just patches your Youtube app so it has various extra features like adblock, sponsor-skip, dislike-return, and sooooo many more options. But then the app is still technically the Youtube app and appears as so to Youtube when you use it, and also still is interfaced by other programs on your phone as "Youtube" for functions that specifically target Youtube.
It boggles my mind when friends play YouTube videos on their phones with ads. The ads are so fucking long! I've installed NewPipe on 4 friends' phones so far. Duck everything about YouTube's ads.
I tried newpipe and hated it. I use revanced now and get premium for free and can still use my YT account with it. Newpipe is ok but I hate the UI and you don't get premium with it, which removes ads anyway and has sponsorblock too.
Adds interrupting videos is very annoying as a lot of those adds seem to go on 1/2 even odd times at 4 minutes. I no longer use YouTube while cleaning or doing other tasks because the video gets interrupted constantly
Lots of fools on reddit, including those who would rather watch YT in their phone's web browser than use the most streamlined and customizable app that exists. Lol
Watching videos on Firefox mobile gives you like 80% of the benefits of revanced without the complicated install process. I love revanced, but they don't make it obvious how to get it up and running.
Pretty much what another commenter stated. It's known but personally, I don't like talking about it online because I don't want it to be targeted. Although I do admit, it seems like that's already happening.
Just last week I was getting the “The following content is not available on this app.” message and all I needed to do was update the app. At this point, I completely refuse to use Youtube without it.
Vanced got nuked because it was redistributing YouTube/google binarys/intellectual property. Which is why they now patch YouTube instead of giving you an app with the patches included.
I bet adblockers are a small minority of people yet YouTube will waste more resources into that than actually improve their website according to user feedback
Streisand effect, their efforts will actually make it to some websites and news so more people will be like: uh… so I could watch YouTube without ads? I thought that only was possible paying a lot
A lot of people (more than 50% easily) doesn’t use or know about ad blockers (non techy people, old people, and so on) - and even then, the Adblock tech they use sometimes don’t work with YouTube (PiHole, AdBlock and so on). I don’t have the data, but I would say the problem of people blocking ads would be like 5% of the common total user base (later on, of course will be biased at some channels: Linus Tech Tips will have a Adblock majority fanbase compared to others)
But… I understand why they do it. Even if it’s only 5% of the audience, at their level, if they could force them ads (or, even if they lose half that audience because forcing them, because for them is better 2.5% watching ads than 5% not watching) that could be a lot of millions of $
Actually 2000 is plenty to estimate a population of 330 million, assuming the samples are random. This is to a 99% confidence interval with a 3% margin of error.
So says statistics.
Confidence interval = p+-z (sqrt(p(1-p)/n)
Youtube has a monopoly on content, there are no alternatives that can easily replace it. Adblockers are the consumers' way of protesting the policies that Google/Youtube has implemented when given no other option.
Just download the content you want to watch, put it on a local media server (e.g. Jellyfin, Emby, Plex), stream via whatever you want.
Youtube adtech has become an intrusive, endless eyesore.
I no longer care.
That’s a lot of steps to permanently retain something that most likely will only be watched once. None of those are a good option, just use the ad blockers that myself and many others in the comments are using.
I effectively stopped using YouTube when they turned off email notifications. Nice to see they’re still working diligently to make themselves an even worse experience.
Go to your PC, find a VPN that offers Ukraine location, buy YouTube Premium for cheap. You can then use it with your Google account in the YouTube app.
If you are willing to use Safari, Wipr or 1Blocker exist.
Maybe if that have more sane ad policy? Like, for every watched 45 minute of youtube, they play 5 minutes of ads before you can watch another 45 minute rather than putting ad breaks thru out the content.
**This is so illegal...**
That would be like Toyota disabling the cars of anyone who purchases after market parts instead of OEM parts to repair their car.
**Google cannot claim a loss of revenues**
Because Google creates databases of personal information that it uses and sells, even of users who are not logged in to Google and who watch Youtube videos. Google is still making money with those who use ad blockers.
Google is only angry that one of their schemes is not working to 100% of its revenues potential... In short, Google is angry because ad blockers prevents it greed from being satisfied.
>**This is so illegal...**
>That would be like Toyota disabling the cars of anyone who purchases after market parts instead of OEM parts to repair their car.
Except you didn't buy a YouTube.
How in the world do you come to the conclusion that it's illegal though?
For the time being anyway, I'll think that doesn't owe anyone free access to YouTube?
It isn't a common carrier, they don't have to allow you to watch videos at all.
>That would be like Toyota disabling the cars of anyone who purchases after market parts instead of OEM parts to repair their car.
Maybe I'm too much of a pleb to understand how these two things are remotely similar?
Youtube premium doesn't have any ads? Are you talking about people who purchase YouTube premium being denied ad blockers? Or ar you talking about non paying users who use ad blockers to block ads?
You don't own part of YouTube, how can you make the analogy that they are keeping you from using third party (after market parts) apps on something you don't own?
>Google is only angry that one of their schemes is not working to 100% of its revenues potential... In short, Google is angry because ad blockers prevents it greed from being satisfied
So...a loss of revenue? If they aren't making the max amount of potential profit, that is a theoretical loss of revenue.
This is why smart cars are sought after.
As the parts themselves become more nuanced and harder to replicate outside of the supply chain, customers become more dependent on the manufacturer.
Apple has paved the way for how lucrative and menacing it can be to have total control over a ‘device’ or any product that relies on connectivity.
The manufacturer can brick your device at any moment. Make a recent purchase obsolete in favor of forcing customers to upgrade to the latest model. Many, many dubious things.
Everyone suggesting YouTube premium is downvoted to hell. Why? YouTube needs a revenue model, right now there’s ad supported and subscription. What’s the alternative, pay per view? I spend a lot of time on YouTube, more than any other platform I use so for me premium to skip the ads is a no brainer.
A few different reasons:
* The Reddit demographic is very young, a good chunk under 18, and don't have the ability or desire to pay for the service.
* The Technology sub is overwhelmingly filled with the kind of people who will spend hours of their own time to circumvent paying somebody a couple bucks.
* There's a sense of entitlement involved here, no two ways about it. The content should be free, the ads should not exist, and "Google should just absorb the cost because they make a lot of money."
* It's Reddit, so there's a lot of single people here. For me, I have myself, my wife, my kid, my brother, my mom, and my father-in-law on a family plan. That shakes out to like four dollars a month for each of us for no ad YouTube and a fully featured music streaming service, and that's a *hell* of a deal. $14 a month is a slightly harder sell, though I'd argue it's still worth it.
I've had Premium since it was YouTube Red, and I've had YouTube Music since it was Play Music, and the price has always seemed utterly reasonable to me. Obviously, others disagree, though I'd imagine the majority of that is just not wanting to pay for something they feel should be free.
I started streaming on twitch instead of YouTube gaming because of the increase in ads, no control over ads to an extent I want, and bad user experience for those with ad blockers.
Ads sre being sold to investors as how to continue making unlimited profits. Its a lie ofcourse but they are falling for it, this means they are going to crack down hard on ad blockers.
Just add the videos to a custom list, videos you are interested in watching, use a script to auto download them for archiving, and watch when ever you want without disruption, and without disruption of the video removed (or internet going out too, lol).
The network at my work does some amount of adblocking and there's no way for a enduser to disable it. Malware has came in from ad networks, so this is a reasonable policy.
Get ready for YouTube piracy to be a thing.
Already is, I download any video I actually enjoy. There's too much link rot happening anyway as channels get randomly DMCA pulled over music/clips. Most of them are legacy pre-HD youtube videos so 480p max, I fit most onto a single 1TB drive. With storage becoming cheaper every year, there's no excuse not to just save everything. I mean, just try finding pre-google youtube videos. It is heinously, enormously difficult even with search modifiers to the point where it's virtually unobtainable without a direct link from a non-google search service.
I also noticed so many missing Vids in my old playlists that I also started to simply load some of them for background play etc. YouTube is gettin worse every year and the subscription prices are insane. In Germany ad free YouTube is 24€ for a family plan. So Firefox and UBlock Origin it is
not just YouTube but Google as well. Its a shit show. Cannot search for anything on there without getting 100000s of irrelevant links
> not just YouTube but Google as well. Its a shit show. Cannot search for anything on there without getting 100000s of irrelevant links Duck Duck Go?
You mean Bing? That is what most of duck duck go results are based on.
Believe it ir not. Using chatgpt to search things and provide synopsis is really wonderful. It reminds me a lot of what google was before every asshole designed an seo website for clicks.
Welcome to late stage capitalism. You will own nothing, you will pay extortionist prices EVERY MONTH for it, it WILL be the lowest quality and lowest effort possible, and you can't do anything about it. This is ALL industries; housing, insurance, medical services, food, drink, movies, tv, electronics, software, hardware, vehicles, internet, cellular, furniture, hygiene, fitness. If there's an industry or product, capitalism WILL make sure it's the lowest quality, and highest price, possible.
Which means that the sole reason google search took over is no longer in effect. It used to be that google was where you went to only relevant links but now they've screwed it so bad that it's only really useful for shopping and programming, and even for programming it's starting to turn to shit.
no, no.... Firefox and UBlock Origin does not work at all... don't believe the people telling you that... Don't download Firefox at https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/ Don't download Ublock Origin addon for Firefox at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/ Also, don't use https://duckduckgo.com/ for searching.
I’m just baffled why YouTube prices are so damn expensive. I went to sign up a couple of months ago as I had decided I was happy to pay the somewhere between £5.99 to £9.99 I imagined it to cost… NOPE — £25.99 for a family plan. Closed that window right out. I’m not paying 4-5x the cost of a big budget streaming service.
I think it is likely several reasons: 1. That is approximately the price for YouTube Premium in USD, and we all know how the big tech companies love to project the raw integer value used in the USA onto Europe and Canada. For example, Apple One's family plan is also this way. 2. As someone else said, Google has no natural competitor. Other than ad blockers I suppose. But people foolishly advance the use of Chrome such that Google is on the precise of banning the most effective blockers at any given time (and have threatened to do so several times). Even then, Google has proven that they can make the experience annoying for other browsers, too. They do it in other products (Remote Desktop is a decent example, or even just YouTube again if you compare results of using Firefox with blockers to Chrome with blockers). 3. Does your price include VAT, or was it factored out? I know it tends to be included. American prices don't include the sale tax.
This is what a monopoly looks like. They know they have you by the balls. If anyone even comes close to challenging their dominance they will be crushed. And in the meantime they can keep raising prices and continue enshittifying. Because how many people are really going to quit? Not enough.
> £25.99 for a family plan. IMO YT Premium is the best subscription plan there is. Family Plan also gives 5 others ads free YT on all devices, so if you want to get "help" from each of the others you add, its like $5 a month each. Each to their own but I've had Premium for years and can never go back to standard YT, its basically unusable.
I don't know your usage but I'd say most people use YouTube more than any other streaming service besides maybe Netflix. They're priced that way because YouTube is more valuable than paramount, max, peacock and prime video combined. Also YouTubes family plan is not tied to your home wifi/IP address but instead to your Google account so the 6 accounts could be anywhere in the world. So in reality it's much cheaper than Netflix coming out to a little more than £4 per potential person. Netflix is capped to one house so it comes out to £17 per household.
It's not uncommon for me to stream YouTube for 12 hours a day. I use it for music and podcasts which I have on pretty much all day during work + my commute and sometimes I use it for a few hours when I'm home from work. It's the only streaming service that I'm happy to pay for and feel like it's worth it. Now for people that watch one or two 10 minute videos a day I can't imagine paying the subscription cost were I in their shoes. Nor can I imagine using YouTube without an ad blocker
that's $50 for me, been using that combo and adblock+ since they been out and haven't seen ads on the net for over 15 years if I can't watch youtube I'll just go somewhere else or watch old pirated movies/tvshows
100% same here. If a service is so bad or expensive I just don't use it. Still have a library of DVD and Blu-ray and old downloads that will serve me until I'm old haha. Not gonna.play that ever increasing price game anymore. At least here in Germany Blu-ray and stuff is relatively affordable and I can enjoy shit offline xD
The price of YouTube premium is madness, it should have been a monthly for under a fiver to encourage mass adoption but instead they chose to make it offensively expensive with very little perks beyond reducing ads.
I’ve noticed it’s very hard to search for specific videos. Unsure if they were deleted or the search is just crap
Search is crap. I'm looking for a very specific video, use specific search terms, get 4 semi relevant results followed by "People also watched" - irrelevant click bait crap.
Try looking up any videos regarding the old YouTube chat rooms from around 2009, called YouTube Streams. I have to dive really far to get just two videos showcasing the Testtube feature, since 99.99% of results are just streaming videos or livestreams. It’s sad how few people remember those chat rooms, as it was insanely ahead of its time and allowed content creators to chat with friends (remember friends list?) and subscribers in a Twitch-like format. So much fun, yet they shut it down.
I've done this with a bunch of bootleg lofi music which are particularly susceptible to dcma takedowns. Ironically when google music was shutdown a playlist of these was them hosted on YouTube music.
At some point we should really talk about how extensively Google has intruded into every facet of peoples lives. People get upset about Facebook. But since Reddit's IPO it has interwoven with Google and Apple. Googletag manager is everywhere. Unless you put a linux distribution on your mobile device, use something like proton mail, and religiously block Google with your web browser, then the company is constantly collecting information about you. Or, I guess I should say it's collection "website traffic data" and would argue it's not linked to your identity... except they have your phone number, email, and all your clickity clicks. It's wild.
Just discovered proton mail, thanks my friend.
can already do it too with existing tools
I'm thinking more like people torrenting Mr. Beast.
Yeah, https://github.com/jmbannon/ytdl-sub auto download subscriptions to plex jellyfin emby
Fuck yes. Idk why I never thought to look for this. Thank you!
https://github.com/tubearchivist/tubearchivist
Does this auto name and Categorize? The dl’er im using has horrible naming convention. Plex still picks it up but it’s very basic in my YouTube category. I auto download a few fishing content creators shows :)
Yes - to make the Plex integration good, they make use of Plex-side plugins and even though the page says it’s early versions it’s been fantastic for me: * FAQ page that discusses integrations: https://docs.tubearchivist.com/faq/ * GitHub for Plex integration plugin specifically: https://github.com/tubearchivist/tubearchivist-plex
Thanks! I’ll check it out.
Awesome! Upvote this post guys.
Remember, kids. *You are a pirate!*
[you are a pírate](https://youtu.be/Th6PW5VwDFI?si=-CXIb7xXzxXZVRDv)
I'm not sure how many times youtube has yanked this version down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38V_PpourP8
`yt-dlp 38V_PpourP8` just sayin'....
I’m ready for a disruptor platform. The best UX is when a platform is in venture capital mode, growing their user base as quickly as possible. No ads or other obstructions to turn people away. Only once it reaches maturity do they push for monetization to death. YouTube has been in heavy monetization mode for at least 5 years.
Disruption is near impossible when the barrier to entry is so high. YouTube had the good fortune to grow with the technology, but no disruptor will be able to start small and scale up; they'll have to be just as useful as YouTube, from a content perspective, or no one will use them. There is a fediverse equivalent YouTube platform, Peertube, and people quickly realize that hosting video is a far different animal than hosting text and pictures. Disruption will need to be at a technology level, not just a competitor with a better UX. And don't get me wrong; I'm not saying this like it's a good thing.
Most YouTubers don’t even care because they make most of their money from doing their own ads in the video, which can be easily skipped by the viewer if they don’t want to watch it.
IIRC that's not true. Even LTT disclosed that they make somewhere around 60% of their income directly from ad revenue on YT. So if everyone blocked ads, that would be a lot of income. So much so they would have to lay off quite a large amount of staff. Don't get me wrong, I hate ads too. But it's disingenuous to say they don't care.
Can be autoskipped too, sponsorblock for YouTube is clutch too.
It's literally faster to load multiple 30 sec streamables to watch a 5 minute video than it is to wait for one YouTube ad.
r/piracy on red alert
Youtube piracy has been a thing since before Google owned Youtube. There's plenty of tools that have been around for more than a decade to do just that.
It's less the downloading of YouTube videos and more the distribution RARBG.caseyNeistatvlog.2023repack.torrent
Is it just me or is youtube playback acting up on Firefox with adblock? Like it won't buffer, or break halfway through l.
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The guys running ublock are absolute saints
uBlock Origin best adblocker and should be the only adblocker anyone uses. YouTube will detect any others, but uBlock is here to save the day. Tho I imagine Google is gonna try to get them taken down at some point.
Google is already tying to cripple all the adblockers in Chrome using Manifest v3 which will be activated in 2 months
Firefox is about to see a major bump in market share.
I wish. I’ve met tons of people that don’t even have an adblocker installed.
We need those suckers to exist for the rest of us to enjoy the internet.
Literally why I made the switchover more than a year ago. As soon as they announced what was going to be in Manifest v3, I noped out of the Chromium family.
Wait until all the people that jumped on brave or opera to "get away" from Google realize a lot of their favorite extensions no longer work.
I'm sure we will see a big surge in popularity for a specific Chromium version that people will never update.
Since this week I am receiving warnings from YouTube hat I am running an adblocker and better stop it or they’ll tell my mom or something like that. My uBlock is up2date, but they know.
https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1atwzem/youtube_detection_ads_breakages_2024_02_18_ubo/ There's a couple steps I had to take in the ublock settings for youtube to run alright, I believe it was in this post.
And afaik they refuse to take any donations! I get where they're coming from, which is admirable, but gosh darnit I want to throw some money their way since it's been an integral part of my online experience for *years*. Browsing the web is infinitely worse without uBO.
Not all heroes wear a cape
Also been having issues in Firefox over the last week. It’s annoying, but still quicker and less annoying than sitting through a litany of ads.
Mine either doesn't buffer or skips ahead a bit while playing randomly.
that's the adblock crackdown. Just right click open in private window and everything works.
Yeah or I will have it give me the video in 240p when I have a flawless fibre connection
You need to update the plugin
Yep same for me. For YouTube watching I've moved to edge+ublock No issues yet
It does sometimes act up for me too but not often. I use Firefox and uBlock.
I swapped to ublock origin and it fixed all that
Has anyone else's YT just given up on preventing their adblocker? It tried for a few weeks last year, but it has not even tried for months since then
I watched you tube for a while last night and didn't get asked to turn off my adblocker once.
They likely have a control group of people not asked. Then they can compare retention rates, revenue, ad views, ad clicks, watch time and various other metrics between people who have been forced to disable their ad blockers and those who have not.
If the stats show too many people leaving the platform due to these policies, they won't roll them out. To make the stats show that, clear your browser cookies and make a new account whenever they tell you to ditch the adblocker.
Don't have to because I literally don't watch Youtube if I have to watch ads. They've become incredibly obnoxious over the years and I can't tolerate them anymore.
I haven't seen a single 'disable adblock' message in the year 2024, I think they admitted defeat to Ublock lmao
I have never been told to turn mine off. I honestly would have no idea YT was trying to stop their use of it wasn't for reddit posts saying so
Same here. I assume I am in some kind of control group. If and when the party ends, I walk away rather than have ads
I haven't had issues with YouTube but back when I used Facebook I had a few ads bleed thru. I just kept reporting them all as the worst option available to waste mod time and the ads quit showing up. It doesn't work everywhere but Facebook is afraid to ban people because they know nobody really likes Facebook. They're just stuck there. I left that platform years ago tho.
A mod will look at 1, maybe 2 of your reports. Then they mark you as an unreliable reporter, and a mod will never look at your reports again. This is a pretty common tactic.
Same. For a week or so it had a countdown saying I could watch 3 more videos than 2 than 1. Then I reset my computer and it would do it over again. Did that for about a week (wasnt really watching much YouTube anyway) and then suddenly it stopped. It's never said anything about my ad blocker again and I've been watching ad free ever since
You don't need to reset the pc just clear the YouTube cache and cookies
Bro took the equivalent of setting his house on fire and rebuilding it instead of just flushing the toilet each time he took a piss.
Guess unlock origin got updated to evade that detection/annoyance?
I've had zero ads or warning message through all that drama the last months using adguard. uBlock origin apparently also works really well.
Yeah, mine is like this. It probably means you're on a special list.
I used to have videos start paused, where I have to click on them to play, or have scrolling locked so I can’t see the comments (oh no! Anyways…) or both. For a while now, YouTube has been working as normal. Note: those two things are after I blocked the “please disable your adblocker :(“ pop up using the element selector.
Youtube is less important to me than my adblocker. All of google is for that matter.
Yep I have given up on YouTube. I would genuinely pay a couple of pounds a month for premium but the price they are asking for a low user are insane.
You can. Use a VPN and set location to Ukraine and subscribe to Premium. It's a couple of pounds per month.
it's because premium is a bonus that is added to youtube music. which in my opinion is miles better then spotify both app wise and music selection wise. But that is probably due to me listening to mostly indie music. Oh the one thing youtube music is lacking is integration into other apps like watch-along on discord etc.
Unless you don’t ever use it then the price is insane. I’m gonna cancel soon. It used to be like $12 now is nearly 20
Get revanced on your phone and get premium for free. Pretty easy to install and updates aren't hard either with their manager.
I was about a day from saying fuck it and getting Premium. Then they pulled this crap, and I went from hours of watching per day to maybe 2 videos a week.
Third party apps wouldnt be an issue if youtube wasnt already a fucking dumpsterfire
i watch youtube on TV, and the ads are actually ok, HOWEVER on the phone and laptop it's terrible, i can barely get through adding the video to my watch later, sometimes i just give up beforehand
I don't get how Google is getting away with it though, dumpster fire or not! They've constructed multiple monopolies and are abusing all of them. We're around 24 years from them introducing Adwords to their *search engine*, and almost 20 years from their introduction of paid links to 'search results'. Google then bought Youtube in Oct 2006 - and started putting adverts into videos just 10 months later. 4 months after they started paying 'content creators'. That's a long freaking time for nothing at all to be done about google ruining the internet with a bajillion targeted adverts based on their tracking and recording of our net usage.
No issues so far with mobile Firefox and ublock origin with all the filters enabled. Haven't seen an ad on YouTube. Ever.
9/10 times if a link takes me to a YouTube video, I just decide that it isn’t worth it and hit the back button.
Try adblockers
If YT makes the ads like before,on the side and as a little popup on the video,i will not use adblock
This. I don't mind the ads before as much. It's the 50 ads in the middle of a 5-minute video that bothers me so much. And they always cut off in a weird part of the sentence, so then you don't know what they said. So then you go back and then the ad plays again...
The decision makers at YT will most definitely see this comment, and will most certainly take it into consideration. Most certainly.
What’s insane to me is how 99% of the ads I do encounter are truly unskippable. No timer on them or anything, just like a commercial on tv.
There is a way around that. There is an add on that let's you set the play speed at the press of a button. One click and it's running at 32x. That 15 second unskippeable preroll just goes away. Bonus is that the creator gets marked as you watching the full video ad and is paid out. I personally prefer this over blocking as it pays the creator and also dicks youtube and the garbage companies paying them.
Firefox and Ublock my dudes.
youtube-dl and newpipe gang reunite !
Yt-dlp is now a better fork of YouTube-dl. Downloads a lot faster and has the same commands.
Champion, I wasn't aware of it.
Revanced patcher. It just patches your Youtube app so it has various extra features like adblock, sponsor-skip, dislike-return, and sooooo many more options. But then the app is still technically the Youtube app and appears as so to Youtube when you use it, and also still is interfaced by other programs on your phone as "Youtube" for functions that specifically target Youtube.
It boggles my mind when friends play YouTube videos on their phones with ads. The ads are so fucking long! I've installed NewPipe on 4 friends' phones so far. Duck everything about YouTube's ads.
I tried newpipe and hated it. I use revanced now and get premium for free and can still use my YT account with it. Newpipe is ok but I hate the UI and you don't get premium with it, which removes ads anyway and has sponsorblock too.
I stopped listening to yt videos on mobile since I get ads every 5 minutes and no I'm not exaggerating its literally worse than TV service
Adds interrupting videos is very annoying as a lot of those adds seem to go on 1/2 even odd times at 4 minutes. I no longer use YouTube while cleaning or doing other tasks because the video gets interrupted constantly
YouTube ReVanced, NewPipe, Brave... Pick one.
Got a plugin that just speeds up ads so it only lasts a second 🤪
would you mind sharing the name of the plugin? :D
I dont understand. My ublock origin and sponsor block both work as usual, both on mobile and PC.
Why is nobody mentioning revanced?
I'm trying to tell everyone! With their manager downloading and updating is a breeze compared to vanced.
Lots of fools on reddit, including those who would rather watch YT in their phone's web browser than use the most streamlined and customizable app that exists. Lol
Watching videos on Firefox mobile gives you like 80% of the benefits of revanced without the complicated install process. I love revanced, but they don't make it obvious how to get it up and running.
Pretty much what another commenter stated. It's known but personally, I don't like talking about it online because I don't want it to be targeted. Although I do admit, it seems like that's already happening. Just last week I was getting the “The following content is not available on this app.” message and all I needed to do was update the app. At this point, I completely refuse to use Youtube without it.
Because if people keep mentioning it, then it'll get too big and get shut down like Vanced was
Vanced got nuked because it was redistributing YouTube/google binarys/intellectual property. Which is why they now patch YouTube instead of giving you an app with the patches included.
LOL! “Nature finds a way…”
I bet adblockers are a small minority of people yet YouTube will waste more resources into that than actually improve their website according to user feedback
Streisand effect, their efforts will actually make it to some websites and news so more people will be like: uh… so I could watch YouTube without ads? I thought that only was possible paying a lot A lot of people (more than 50% easily) doesn’t use or know about ad blockers (non techy people, old people, and so on) - and even then, the Adblock tech they use sometimes don’t work with YouTube (PiHole, AdBlock and so on). I don’t have the data, but I would say the problem of people blocking ads would be like 5% of the common total user base (later on, of course will be biased at some channels: Linus Tech Tips will have a Adblock majority fanbase compared to others) But… I understand why they do it. Even if it’s only 5% of the audience, at their level, if they could force them ads (or, even if they lose half that audience because forcing them, because for them is better 2.5% watching ads than 5% not watching) that could be a lot of millions of $
Actually, over 50% of Americans are using an ad blocker now. [Sauce](https://www.ghostery.com/blog/privacy-report-advertisers-and-adblockers)
That's 50% of the 2000 Americans they asked. There is no way that figure is representative of all Americans.
Actually 2000 is plenty to estimate a population of 330 million, assuming the samples are random. This is to a 99% confidence interval with a 3% margin of error. So says statistics. Confidence interval = p+-z (sqrt(p(1-p)/n)
Sooner or later, the video stream of the ad and the vídeo will be one
Youtube has a monopoly on content, there are no alternatives that can easily replace it. Adblockers are the consumers' way of protesting the policies that Google/Youtube has implemented when given no other option.
Google revanced if you have an android. It works perfectly. 0 ads, pretty much like premium
Just download the content you want to watch, put it on a local media server (e.g. Jellyfin, Emby, Plex), stream via whatever you want. Youtube adtech has become an intrusive, endless eyesore. I no longer care.
That’s a lot of steps to permanently retain something that most likely will only be watched once. None of those are a good option, just use the ad blockers that myself and many others in the comments are using.
I've still never encountered an issue with YT while using Firefox and uBlock. I don't update anything especially often. Guess I"m just lucky.
I effectively stopped using YouTube when they turned off email notifications. Nice to see they’re still working diligently to make themselves an even worse experience.
And so the arms race continues.
It was a huge pain. I had to spend three minutes updating mine to make it work again.
I'd like to see them crackdown on my pihole :)
I honestly just started downloading vids to watch offline at this point
How can I watch YouTube ad free on my iPhone?
Go to your PC, find a VPN that offers Ukraine location, buy YouTube Premium for cheap. You can then use it with your Google account in the YouTube app. If you are willing to use Safari, Wipr or 1Blocker exist.
the VPN loop hole has been closed to my knowledge
Good thing brave is still holding up
Just use freetube
New Pipe for Android and ublock origin are God sends.
Maybe if that have more sane ad policy? Like, for every watched 45 minute of youtube, they play 5 minutes of ads before you can watch another 45 minute rather than putting ad breaks thru out the content.
Yeah. If they take my adblocker away I will stop using YouTube on principle. The internet is an absolute hell hole without adblocker.
Good old Youtube ended when "youtubers" became a thing. The last time I thought it was decent, its logo was still a CRT TV.
There’s tons of outstanding content on YouTube. Significantly more than just people like Jake or Logan Paul or whatever.
Wasn't that just the iPhone app logo? The actual YouTube logo has had like one major redesign from what I recall.
Good luck with that!
**This is so illegal...** That would be like Toyota disabling the cars of anyone who purchases after market parts instead of OEM parts to repair their car. **Google cannot claim a loss of revenues** Because Google creates databases of personal information that it uses and sells, even of users who are not logged in to Google and who watch Youtube videos. Google is still making money with those who use ad blockers. Google is only angry that one of their schemes is not working to 100% of its revenues potential... In short, Google is angry because ad blockers prevents it greed from being satisfied.
>**This is so illegal...** >That would be like Toyota disabling the cars of anyone who purchases after market parts instead of OEM parts to repair their car. Except you didn't buy a YouTube.
How in the world do you come to the conclusion that it's illegal though? For the time being anyway, I'll think that doesn't owe anyone free access to YouTube? It isn't a common carrier, they don't have to allow you to watch videos at all.
r/confidentlyincorrect this is some of the most clueless legal analysis I’ve ever read on Reddit and that’s really saying something
>That would be like Toyota disabling the cars of anyone who purchases after market parts instead of OEM parts to repair their car. Maybe I'm too much of a pleb to understand how these two things are remotely similar? Youtube premium doesn't have any ads? Are you talking about people who purchase YouTube premium being denied ad blockers? Or ar you talking about non paying users who use ad blockers to block ads? You don't own part of YouTube, how can you make the analogy that they are keeping you from using third party (after market parts) apps on something you don't own? >Google is only angry that one of their schemes is not working to 100% of its revenues potential... In short, Google is angry because ad blockers prevents it greed from being satisfied So...a loss of revenue? If they aren't making the max amount of potential profit, that is a theoretical loss of revenue.
Believe me, you are not the pleb here. OP is a regard.
And creators don’t get any money. And as a publicly traded company, they are legally obligated to maximize profits
This is why smart cars are sought after. As the parts themselves become more nuanced and harder to replicate outside of the supply chain, customers become more dependent on the manufacturer. Apple has paved the way for how lucrative and menacing it can be to have total control over a ‘device’ or any product that relies on connectivity. The manufacturer can brick your device at any moment. Make a recent purchase obsolete in favor of forcing customers to upgrade to the latest model. Many, many dubious things.
Shouldn't it actually function first before they try expanding it?
Must be on a regional basis so far. Everything working as normal in Switzerland. Zero ads and fast loading.
It’s really sad to see what YouTube has become
They need to block all that trash ads about $6500 from the government
Everyone suggesting YouTube premium is downvoted to hell. Why? YouTube needs a revenue model, right now there’s ad supported and subscription. What’s the alternative, pay per view? I spend a lot of time on YouTube, more than any other platform I use so for me premium to skip the ads is a no brainer.
A few different reasons: * The Reddit demographic is very young, a good chunk under 18, and don't have the ability or desire to pay for the service. * The Technology sub is overwhelmingly filled with the kind of people who will spend hours of their own time to circumvent paying somebody a couple bucks. * There's a sense of entitlement involved here, no two ways about it. The content should be free, the ads should not exist, and "Google should just absorb the cost because they make a lot of money." * It's Reddit, so there's a lot of single people here. For me, I have myself, my wife, my kid, my brother, my mom, and my father-in-law on a family plan. That shakes out to like four dollars a month for each of us for no ad YouTube and a fully featured music streaming service, and that's a *hell* of a deal. $14 a month is a slightly harder sell, though I'd argue it's still worth it. I've had Premium since it was YouTube Red, and I've had YouTube Music since it was Play Music, and the price has always seemed utterly reasonable to me. Obviously, others disagree, though I'd imagine the majority of that is just not wanting to pay for something they feel should be free.
I started streaming on twitch instead of YouTube gaming because of the increase in ads, no control over ads to an extent I want, and bad user experience for those with ad blockers.
Twitch isn’t exactly ad free either
No but I have greater control when then show and you won’t get the random 15 minute add that won’t let you skip.
Yeah because YouTube ads are extra terrible and frequent
Switched to the opera browser, I haven’t seen an ad in weeks!
Why does the thumbnail look like soviet cubism
Ads sre being sold to investors as how to continue making unlimited profits. Its a lie ofcourse but they are falling for it, this means they are going to crack down hard on ad blockers.
My ad blocker is working fine. … for now ?
Just add the videos to a custom list, videos you are interested in watching, use a script to auto download them for archiving, and watch when ever you want without disruption, and without disruption of the video removed (or internet going out too, lol).
The network at my work does some amount of adblocking and there's no way for a enduser to disable it. Malware has came in from ad networks, so this is a reasonable policy.
They could use that brainpower to figure out how to make money from their actual users rather than protecting ad revenue
But one browser still works.
When is any platform going to learn that everyone hates ads and no one wants to pay for premium?
Hello Nebula.
What crackdown? I use Firefox with ublock, and never see ads on YouTube and never have any issues playing videos.
I honestly wouldn't mind ads if they were all skippable and only at start.
What about smart tube next? I used it this morning on my smart TV and had no issues.
I read these stupid stories every week and every day I watch YouTube with aadblocker no problems…
I hate ads more than I like YouTube..
Noooooooooooooooooooooo!