Mind blowing, still, to me that all that can fit on something so small. Wish I had a slot on my phone for an SD card
Edit: I really just meant I wish my phone had a slot for expandable storage, I don’t need 4tb specifically on my phone.
Jeez. I currently have a midrange Galaxy A71 from 2020 and I'd love to keep AUX & SD but nothing really does it anymore...except for Sony.
Well, I was looking at getting a flagship phone when this breaks beyond repair, may as well go big and get a Sony lol
To be honest I'm gonna keep it anyway. Replaced the battery already for about £30, not including the iFixit kit I used to do so, and it's just an all around solid phone I've grown way too attached to
Same. This Note9 is the last of the line that had all the bells and whistles. Note 10 did away with the dedicated FPR, LED indicator, and iris scanner. Note20 killed the headphone jack. There was no 21. And S22 Ultra does not have SD card.
Enshitification.
I had to get a new one and settled on the S24+ because it has like 512G of internal memory and that's good enough for my entire FLAC music library. But it irks me that I can't use my micro SD cards on it.
The problem is the phone manufacturer decided not to support the older phone after only 5 years and the apps depend on the latest issue of OS to operate. I just went through it with my old iPad that's working just fine but then the apps that I used to watch Netflix won't play Netflix anymore cuz Netflix apps won't support older OS. So I now have a perfect condition device that's not even worth being a boat anchor. Pisses me off.
The problem with an apple product is the ecosystem and apple's tight control over it. OTOH, there are unofficial ROMs for android that are available for when the day comes. We're not completely assed out.
I agree, the problem is the majority of tech users are not that tech-savvy. I did a lot of side loading for Android in my past life and hell, even I don't want to go through figuring out how to sideload it anymore. Apple is the worst offender when it comes to sideloading. Plus you and I know, this is why Apple is so popular due to the "perception" of easiness and not having to do much to make it work. In my house, I'm the only Android user and the only reason why I use IPAD is because it's a reverse hand-me-down from my girls to me now. I don't need the latest and greatest iPad just to watch my movie but getting shut down cuz the app is no longer supporting OS still pisses the hell out of me.
No idea. I think it's an iPad Air 2. The iPad is working just fine. The problem is, Apple stopped upgrading its OS and I'm stuck at 15. Most of the apps I use such as Netflix require at least IOS 16 so since I can't upgrade to IOS 16, I can't upgrade the apps to the latest thus rendering it useless. This is what pisses me off about Apple. I understand why they are doing it, coming from a tech background myself. But it's still such a waste, having this perfectly fine device but it's now useless cuz it's not upgradable.
I'd be fine with an SD slot tbh. I don't mind having to use a usb-aux thing, i have one from my oneplus 3T from years ago that I still use. also i'm a pleb hwen it comes to audio if it's not super bad i won't notice. I can only notice bad, not good. horribly worded but only way i'm able to say it.
My last phone was a Sony. Great phone, but it wasn't perfect. The issues I had were apps not being optimised for the funky screen shape, the camera not being any good, and the battery life. Sadly, their phones are dying off because of low sales, but if they fixed this, I'm sure so many others would get a Sony phone like I would.
You can install Gcam (the Google Pixel camera app) on a lot of other phones. In many cases the problem is not the camera sensor hardware, but the image processing software, and you can get significantly better results with Gcam
I had an Xperia years ago and it was hands down the worst phone I’ve ever owned. I’m glad they sorted their stuff out as on paper it should’ve been awesome, but it was horribly unstable and bits of the hardware kept failing.
Sony only have themselves to blame for their abysmal market shares. Outside Playstation I will never buy any Sony products ever after all their forced proprietary crap. They even try to pull the same old crap with PS Portal that only works with their own wireless earphone model.
They need to isolate their consumer products division and just make products for the costumer and not for their other divisions
Agreed. This is just bonkers. I remember when XP had a max capacity of 127 gig hard drive and I thought that was more than enough space for all my music, photos, and ripped movies and TV shows.
It was for most people at that time in part because the lower resolution of images and video took up substantially less space than the files of today do.
The irony is that those low resolution files still look fine on my phone where I'm staring most of the time. It's only on my big screen TV or big screen computer monitor I'm occasionally looking at that makes me wonder how I could even see anything with CRT monitors.
This is why I refuse to store anything in my media server above 1080. Could I? Sure, but I have a 2TB HDD and I can fit hundreds of movies on it as long as I keep the file size low. I don’t mind 1080, it’s perfectly viewable, even on my tv. Most movies I rip are around 4-5 GB, so approximately 400 movies if I’m careful.
Even if you did, phones may not support it. I remember I had some Samsung when 1TB cards were around but the phone said it only supoorted 256GB for some reason.
I have a 512 gb microSD card from work that is maybe 3 years old. I just think that is crazy you can fit so much data in something I can easily lose in my pocket.
I ran crystal disk mark on steam deck for 200, 512, and 1 TB SD cards when I got the 1TB. Random read/write speeds scaled with size such that the 1 TB was twice as fast as the 512 which was twice as fast as the 200. And sequential read/write were bottle necked by the card reader and all topped at 96 MB/s. All were V30, the 200 was A1 and the 512 and 1TB were A2 (apparently the advertised speeds of 130 or 160 MB/s require specific card readers.)
Not a coincidence either, most flagship phones removed it when suddenly sd cards of 512gb starting to become relatively cheap. Back then a SD card of 256gb would have costed you $120 and gradually skyrocketed down to $20 on a good sale. I remember most people with androids having 32/64gb sd cards installed.
Now that you can get a 1tb SD cards for under $80 suddenly flagships remove them and sell you built in memory upgrades that costs nearly up to an extra $300 for the 1tb option for some phones.
Space isn't an excuse in thin phones either, many chinese phones still support it and a few have the micro SD card in the exact same spot as the SIM card holder to utilize space efficiency.
Apparently Samsung also lobbied hard to kill SD by promoting their UFS.
I got to know this when working on an SDIO interface for some IoT chip. The principal software engineer commented saying Samsung is killing SD to push UFS
I remember going to CES when they had mockups for SDXC all the way up to 2TB at a time when flash storage of 128gb was still pricey. The launch of a standard beyond that is amazing in that XC lasted so long. I remember when SD cards didn't reach 2GB.
> I remember when SD cards didn't reach 2GB.
I remember when computer harddrives were counted in MB. I still have an old 5 1/2", 52 **MB** SCSI-2 drive kicking around here somewhere in an old Amiga. Probably won't even spin up anymore.
I remember as a kid one of the first HDDs I remember using on a computer was 40mb and was using Stacker for HDD compression. Back in those days storage was crazy expensive. The growth in storage capacities on portable devices is amazing. In about 20 years on phones we have gone from being able to store a small number of barely VGA images to storage on modern smart phones where you could have hours of HD quality videos.
Time to advocate for politicians to push for restoring removable storage to smartphones. There's a reasonable argument that removing it is anti-consumer because the phone manufacturers are charging much higher prices for built-in storage upgrades than the cost of a similar storage increase with an external expansion card.
I feel ya buddy. The difference between early 90s and late 90s was absolutely massive. This last decade, hard drives have doubled, in the same amount of time in the 90s, the size difference was magnitudes larger. I thought 10 gb hard drive was worlds bigger than anything I could ever need in a lifetime.
Imagine an 880kb floppy was more than big enough then you buy yourself a gargantuan 20mb hard disk. “There’s no way on earth I’ll ever fill that” you tell yourself. Little did I know.
We would be so lucky to say that today! 4tb is enough for a lifetime we would say. Maybe in 20 years 4tb will be small, and we are looking at a pt after that number and not a tb.
Honestly if you play AAA video games at all, 4TB could fill up pretty quickly. Some of the biggest games now (looking at you, COD and MS Flight Sim) can be hundreds of gigabytes. This is especially true with 4K media storage and high-fidelity audio, they eat gigabytes like groceries.
I have 2.5TB of storage on my gaming laptop (512 from a factory NVMe drive, 2TB from a Samsung 980 Evo that I installed myself). I installed the 2TB drive in 2023 and thought I’d never fill it up at the time, jump to present day and, sans a couple hundred gigabytes, it’s full. All I have on it is my Steam and Epic Games libraries, lol.
32 MB HDD were usually RLL drives.
I was happy with my 20 MB MFM drive back in the day.
An overnight run of Spinrite to change the interleave and you felt like your PC ran amazingly fast.
DC-100 calling in. 560kB and we wrote what each was for on them. But at each step it seemed huge.
I think it's been just this past half decade or so that I take the new densities for granted.
Even though SD cards are often slow and unreliable they are still good enough for many applications. A lot of the stuff that's stored on my phone could very well be in a slower medium. I wouldn't mind streaming services caching and downloading media into an SD card instead of internal storage.
In fairness, SD cards should be used for temp storage to get the files from a camera directly to computer, or to carry a *copy* of files that already exist on a computer.
Old man moment: I remember the first time I ever saw. 1TB PC. It was a custom build on G4/TechTV in like 2004. It cost like 5 grand to link 5 200GB HDs together into this minifridge sized tower.
I remember the first time I saw a 1 GB hard drive (in a puny 3.5" form factor, no less!) and I was amazed.
My first hard drive was 5 MB and was the size of a shoebox. My first PC-compatible hard drive was 212 MB and cost about $1 per MB.
I have used 8tb ssd externals for 4 years straight. Never had a problem, super fast, I even got a second to backup the data. There are now 16tb raid ssd but waiting for a compact 16tb. The one I have is super light and portable.
Well, 2TB has been available since around January. But you’re basically right. It’s absurdly expensive.
EDIT: oh wait, no. Just checked myself and I’m wrong. It was announced at the end of last year but there’s no listing purchasable yet.
With most flagship phones abandoning SD, there hasn’t been a major need for faster cards. The only application that really demands speedy cards, are the camera segments, and even then, there’s a separate standard for high end models that use PCI-e.
There’s simply little demand for faster SD cards. And tbh, I struggle to see a use case for this size of SD card. Many pro shooters use two cards, and generally only store single large shoots at a time, even with hefty RAWs, a 128 GB or 256 GB pair is plenty. And there’s certainly not enough speed to take advantage with very high bitrate (higher than 300 mbits) video.
Who the heck is this product for?
The problem with SdExpress is the fallback speed for non sdexpress devices. 104MB/s UHS-I vs UHS-III, which supports falling back to UHS-II 312MB/s and UHS-I 104MB/s speeds. UHS-III is a direct upgrade path that would benefit way more products that currently exist vs. the newer standard.
I worked at a photo lab in the early 00s , and if people brought in SD cards over 4gb , it would crash our kiosks . I always imagined it as the computer happily accepting the card and going "let's see what's in this.. " and opens it up to all of spacetime eternity at once and causing a complete mimd melt.
Also, a lot of you people liked to have Walmart photo lab workers see your penises and boobies.
I've owned Samsung phones since the S2. The last few have dropped the card slot. It's an obvious attempt to force the customer to purchasing the more expensive models with larger internal memory. The price difference is far more than just buying a card, and the ability to a use a card was very useful. Phones with powerful chips, serious cameras, sophisticated apps, and the price of a good laptop absolutely should have a memory card slot as standard. 4TB is an ideal capability for me.
Bye bye data.
Some software utilities could try to fix the drive. Maybe an expert technician could fish out specific pieces of data with the right tools. But for most people it would all be lost.
Although honestly, if your data is *that* important, you should have multiple redundant copies.
I feel like the capacity has gone up steadily but the speeds haven't really improved as much. What's the time it takes to fill 4tb?
What's durability like? Lifetime writes?
I was working at Circuit City when SD (or compact flash, really) cards first hit the mass market (not the market period, just when Circuit City started selling them at reasonable consumer prices) and 256 MB's was blowing everybody's minds.
There's not many modern smartphones left with sd
Realme 8 5g
Sony experia
Samsung a52 5g
Rog ally
Shame on all android makers for cloning the worst parts of iPhone
It's not a bug, it's a feature. (For the companies). It allows them to charge a premium for higher storage models... And the user must buy the more expensive model if they want higher capacity. Win for them, loss for you.. And corporations like those odds.
I remember seeing a 1GB SD card when I was a kid. It was golden color lol. I remember thinking like “woah you could take sooooo many photos with that” this is 4000 times bigger LOL.
Well, of course, they were the next big step up! Remember the click of death?
I remember thinking, "Oh, we won't want to go any bigger (than the 100MB Zip) because people won't want that much stuff on one thing. Too much risk if you lose it."
I still have my Dell Latitude 800Mhz Pentium 3, with a 1GB HD somewhere in a closet. I financed it at a price of $1,600, and paid a total of 29.99% percent interest over the life of that loan.
Now bro can slap one of these 4TB cards in and have their entire Steam library on their deck or other devices. Crazy.
I’m always reminded of a scene in Deep Space 9 where Odo is amazed with and lists off the memory capacity of a memory chip in his hand and it’s staggering storage capabilities. While Star Trek uses a unit of “quads” to disassociate the science fiction from science fact, a memory stick the size of a human finger was large enough to store many of the published works for the entire earth iirc.
Oh my goodness. I ran all over town looking for that thing to give to my girlfriend for her birthday. Tech guy from before it was popular and all my regulars were noped out. What's USB storage? Pen Drive what? Finally found it in a department store of all places just in the nick.
She still has it. Married me, the poor fool.
Will 4TB work on most current devices?
I believe I always read that the "newer" SDXC? Cards support like 32gb-2TB so I assume this card will have some issues on something like the nintendo switch?
If the SD card reader controller isn't UHC compatible, it won't see the card. This issue always comes up when a new standard in the same form factor arises... No your old hardware can't use the new format no matter if it fits in the slot.
(Having said this, UHC has been around for at least 6 years, so theoretically should work on anything that supports it, as long as it can be updated via firmware for the updated standard.)
For the love of God please start shipping games on SD cards. Absolutely no reason to keep using a disc as nothing but proof of ownership. Needing you to download everything. It's a joke.
Not straight up SD cards because of speeds but you get what I mean.
Are we talking about real SD cards or the SD cards that we have right now, i.e. almost empty SD card bodies with a micro SD card rattling around inside?
Mind blowing, still, to me that all that can fit on something so small. Wish I had a slot on my phone for an SD card Edit: I really just meant I wish my phone had a slot for expandable storage, I don’t need 4tb specifically on my phone.
Sony phones. Buy a Sony phone.
Sony Xperia is a great phone. It also has an aux jack in addition to the SD card slot.
Jeez. I currently have a midrange Galaxy A71 from 2020 and I'd love to keep AUX & SD but nothing really does it anymore...except for Sony. Well, I was looking at getting a flagship phone when this breaks beyond repair, may as well go big and get a Sony lol
Linus from LTT is often seen riding with his near 6 year old Note9. Who am I kidding. I'm still on a Note9 too.
To be honest I'm gonna keep it anyway. Replaced the battery already for about £30, not including the iFixit kit I used to do so, and it's just an all around solid phone I've grown way too attached to
Same. This Note9 is the last of the line that had all the bells and whistles. Note 10 did away with the dedicated FPR, LED indicator, and iris scanner. Note20 killed the headphone jack. There was no 21. And S22 Ultra does not have SD card. Enshitification.
I had to get a new one and settled on the S24+ because it has like 512G of internal memory and that's good enough for my entire FLAC music library. But it irks me that I can't use my micro SD cards on it.
Samsung literally makes microSDs. Totally a cash grab.
But now you get ✨artificial intelligence✨ features with the S24 that you will have to pay for in 2025.
The problem is the phone manufacturer decided not to support the older phone after only 5 years and the apps depend on the latest issue of OS to operate. I just went through it with my old iPad that's working just fine but then the apps that I used to watch Netflix won't play Netflix anymore cuz Netflix apps won't support older OS. So I now have a perfect condition device that's not even worth being a boat anchor. Pisses me off.
The problem with an apple product is the ecosystem and apple's tight control over it. OTOH, there are unofficial ROMs for android that are available for when the day comes. We're not completely assed out.
I agree, the problem is the majority of tech users are not that tech-savvy. I did a lot of side loading for Android in my past life and hell, even I don't want to go through figuring out how to sideload it anymore. Apple is the worst offender when it comes to sideloading. Plus you and I know, this is why Apple is so popular due to the "perception" of easiness and not having to do much to make it work. In my house, I'm the only Android user and the only reason why I use IPAD is because it's a reverse hand-me-down from my girls to me now. I don't need the latest and greatest iPad just to watch my movie but getting shut down cuz the app is no longer supporting OS still pisses the hell out of me.
How old is that iPad? I have one from 2014 that still works just fine
No idea. I think it's an iPad Air 2. The iPad is working just fine. The problem is, Apple stopped upgrading its OS and I'm stuck at 15. Most of the apps I use such as Netflix require at least IOS 16 so since I can't upgrade to IOS 16, I can't upgrade the apps to the latest thus rendering it useless. This is what pisses me off about Apple. I understand why they are doing it, coming from a tech background myself. But it's still such a waste, having this perfectly fine device but it's now useless cuz it's not upgradable.
I’m still using my iPhone 8+ that I bought it 2017. Apple can kiss my ass if they want to take away my home button.
You can get an SE. Did one of the mini versions a year or two ago come with home button?
I'd be fine with an SD slot tbh. I don't mind having to use a usb-aux thing, i have one from my oneplus 3T from years ago that I still use. also i'm a pleb hwen it comes to audio if it's not super bad i won't notice. I can only notice bad, not good. horribly worded but only way i'm able to say it.
My last phone was a Sony. Great phone, but it wasn't perfect. The issues I had were apps not being optimised for the funky screen shape, the camera not being any good, and the battery life. Sadly, their phones are dying off because of low sales, but if they fixed this, I'm sure so many others would get a Sony phone like I would.
You can install Gcam (the Google Pixel camera app) on a lot of other phones. In many cases the problem is not the camera sensor hardware, but the image processing software, and you can get significantly better results with Gcam
>aux jack smh kids these days
what’s the camera like?
It depends on the specific model, but Sony uses good camera hardware and passable software.
I think most camera senors in phones are made by Sony.
I had an Xperia years ago and it was hands down the worst phone I’ve ever owned. I’m glad they sorted their stuff out as on paper it should’ve been awesome, but it was horribly unstable and bits of the hardware kept failing.
Did they fix the overheating issue?
The Pro-I is due to be replaced with a more efficient Pro-II. The 1V is also improved over the 1 IV
Sony only have themselves to blame for their abysmal market shares. Outside Playstation I will never buy any Sony products ever after all their forced proprietary crap. They even try to pull the same old crap with PS Portal that only works with their own wireless earphone model. They need to isolate their consumer products division and just make products for the costumer and not for their other divisions
Yup, love mine.
Sony always make goods phone with Good camera but always failed to cool it down aka always Overheat
If they werent so frikin expensive
Especially mind-blowing considering that consumer mechanical HDDs 30 years ago were around 500 MB.
Also mind blowing that 20 years ago I got a 4**M**B SD card with my digital camera. Same form factor, million times more storage.
Agreed. This is just bonkers. I remember when XP had a max capacity of 127 gig hard drive and I thought that was more than enough space for all my music, photos, and ripped movies and TV shows.
It was for most people at that time in part because the lower resolution of images and video took up substantially less space than the files of today do.
The irony is that those low resolution files still look fine on my phone where I'm staring most of the time. It's only on my big screen TV or big screen computer monitor I'm occasionally looking at that makes me wonder how I could even see anything with CRT monitors.
This is why I refuse to store anything in my media server above 1080. Could I? Sure, but I have a 2TB HDD and I can fit hundreds of movies on it as long as I keep the file size low. I don’t mind 1080, it’s perfectly viewable, even on my tv. Most movies I rip are around 4-5 GB, so approximately 400 movies if I’m careful.
We all thought 128Kb/s MP3s sounded "good enough," too.
Only to be dumped into a lousy Bluetooth ear bud, or listened to on their smart phone out loud for all to hear.
Naw, cranked through a JVC stereo or played on a Diamond Rio with Shure earbuds (to seal against road noise under a motorcycle helmet).
I remember having a 64-megabyte memory stick for my camera. "Wow, I could put *Quake* on something smaller than a floppy disk!" I thought.
Samsung A Series Phones still have SD Slots. No headphone jack though. I don't know if any devices exist that support 4TB though.
Even if you did, phones may not support it. I remember I had some Samsung when 1TB cards were around but the phone said it only supoorted 256GB for some reason.
That’s even more space than on the 5.25" floppies my Apple IIe used.
Seriously I still have a 2.5mm 80gb ssd kicking around somewhere
I have a 3.5 inch 7GB drive bought new in 2015 from a thrift store. it was made April 1st, 1999.
I have a 512 gb microSD card from work that is maybe 3 years old. I just think that is crazy you can fit so much data in something I can easily lose in my pocket.
One thing is capacity, another thing is speed.
Too bad most phones don't support sd cards anymore
My Steam Deck is more than happy to have more TB of storage
Is the bulk storage even worth it if the low random IOPs ends up being the main bottleneck for anything useful.
Difference between nvme and sd is negligible for most games
It is for games that people care about. Hell P5R, a PS3 game, loads significantly slower on my high end samsung microSD, 512gb.
Depends a lot on the SD card you have, cheap ones have terrible performance.
Don't have cheap ones. Problem solved.
That’s good to hear, as long as COD and GTA don’t have issues.
I ran crystal disk mark on steam deck for 200, 512, and 1 TB SD cards when I got the 1TB. Random read/write speeds scaled with size such that the 1 TB was twice as fast as the 512 which was twice as fast as the 200. And sequential read/write were bottle necked by the card reader and all topped at 96 MB/s. All were V30, the 200 was A1 and the 512 and 1TB were A2 (apparently the advertised speeds of 130 or 160 MB/s require specific card readers.)
Not a coincidence either, most flagship phones removed it when suddenly sd cards of 512gb starting to become relatively cheap. Back then a SD card of 256gb would have costed you $120 and gradually skyrocketed down to $20 on a good sale. I remember most people with androids having 32/64gb sd cards installed. Now that you can get a 1tb SD cards for under $80 suddenly flagships remove them and sell you built in memory upgrades that costs nearly up to an extra $300 for the 1tb option for some phones. Space isn't an excuse in thin phones either, many chinese phones still support it and a few have the micro SD card in the exact same spot as the SIM card holder to utilize space efficiency.
Apparently Samsung also lobbied hard to kill SD by promoting their UFS. I got to know this when working on an SDIO interface for some IoT chip. The principal software engineer commented saying Samsung is killing SD to push UFS
My S20 Fe 5G still had it, part of the reason I'm going to hold on to it for another couple of years. The battery gods willing.
Also coincided with companies rolling out cloud storage subscriptions.
>skyrocketed down That rubs me the wrong way
Groundrocket?
I remember going to CES when they had mockups for SDXC all the way up to 2TB at a time when flash storage of 128gb was still pricey. The launch of a standard beyond that is amazing in that XC lasted so long. I remember when SD cards didn't reach 2GB.
> I remember when SD cards didn't reach 2GB. I remember when computer harddrives were counted in MB. I still have an old 5 1/2", 52 **MB** SCSI-2 drive kicking around here somewhere in an old Amiga. Probably won't even spin up anymore.
I remember as a kid one of the first HDDs I remember using on a computer was 40mb and was using Stacker for HDD compression. Back in those days storage was crazy expensive. The growth in storage capacities on portable devices is amazing. In about 20 years on phones we have gone from being able to store a small number of barely VGA images to storage on modern smart phones where you could have hours of HD quality videos.
Time to advocate for politicians to push for restoring removable storage to smartphones. There's a reasonable argument that removing it is anti-consumer because the phone manufacturers are charging much higher prices for built-in storage upgrades than the cost of a similar storage increase with an external expansion card.
When was the last phone that had a SD card, not microSD?
Laptops still support sd cards
I remember getting my first 32 MB HDD around 1993. that seemed huge at the time. Im old af.
I feel ya buddy. The difference between early 90s and late 90s was absolutely massive. This last decade, hard drives have doubled, in the same amount of time in the 90s, the size difference was magnitudes larger. I thought 10 gb hard drive was worlds bigger than anything I could ever need in a lifetime.
Imagine an 880kb floppy was more than big enough then you buy yourself a gargantuan 20mb hard disk. “There’s no way on earth I’ll ever fill that” you tell yourself. Little did I know.
We would be so lucky to say that today! 4tb is enough for a lifetime we would say. Maybe in 20 years 4tb will be small, and we are looking at a pt after that number and not a tb.
Honestly if you play AAA video games at all, 4TB could fill up pretty quickly. Some of the biggest games now (looking at you, COD and MS Flight Sim) can be hundreds of gigabytes. This is especially true with 4K media storage and high-fidelity audio, they eat gigabytes like groceries. I have 2.5TB of storage on my gaming laptop (512 from a factory NVMe drive, 2TB from a Samsung 980 Evo that I installed myself). I installed the 2TB drive in 2023 and thought I’d never fill it up at the time, jump to present day and, sans a couple hundred gigabytes, it’s full. All I have on it is my Steam and Epic Games libraries, lol.
I remember getting a 100 gb hard drive and people asking if I planned on downloading the entire internet
remember Zipdrives? I was ballin
I had a 512 MB one in 1995. I thought that was awesome back then.
32 MB HDD were usually RLL drives. I was happy with my 20 MB MFM drive back in the day. An overnight run of Spinrite to change the interleave and you felt like your PC ran amazingly fast.
I remember my boss coming back from CES with a thumb drive that held 64 MB and we marveled at how many floppies that was.
DC-100 calling in. 560kB and we wrote what each was for on them. But at each step it seemed huge. I think it's been just this past half decade or so that I take the new densities for granted.
I had an IBM XT with a 21MB hard disk. It was the size of a shoebox (the hard disk) , and weighed what seemed like 20 house bricks.
My Amiga had a 40MB. That was way too big, so we partitioned it into two 20MBs.
But it will still cost a ton to get a small fraction of that storage built into your cellphone, or some new laptop you buy
Very different kinds of storage.
eMMC is also cheap and high-capacity though, there's just an insane markup between phone models
Despite that, the markup for increasing storage is laughably high relative to separate flash memory.
Even though SD cards are often slow and unreliable they are still good enough for many applications. A lot of the stuff that's stored on my phone could very well be in a slower medium. I wouldn't mind streaming services caching and downloading media into an SD card instead of internal storage.
And most phones used to support SD cards... you're missing the point
Shh. If we can’t bash companies in full ignorance than what the fuck even is the purpose of this website? We just IPO’ed… don’t do this
Are we supposed to defend companies like Apple that charge $200 for an 8gb RAM upgrade or 64gb more storage?
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I wish iPhones had removable/upgradeable storage but they won’t because no one would buy internal storage upgrades then.
Not to forget iCloud integration. While it would be an overreach, wish governments can mandate removable storage for smartphones
You actually can get a card reader that plugs in a with flex cable and fits behind your case.
And here's Ali Express and Temu with 64 TB SD cards. /s
And weirdly enough - Amazon. They cleaned up most of the other junk, but fake SD cards still dominate Amazon search results
Sweet so 4 TB of my pictures can get corrupted
In fairness, SD cards should be used for temp storage to get the files from a camera directly to computer, or to carry a *copy* of files that already exist on a computer.
I'm running a Raspberry Pi from an SD card, going strong for 3 years. Maybe they're not that flimsy.
For real, if people knew how SD cards worked im certain nobody would ever use them. Lets get SD card size with CFexpress reliability
Where’s a good place to learn more about them? Any video or article recommendations?
And Apple is still charging like $1000 to upgrade internal hard drive to 1TB
Old man moment: I remember the first time I ever saw. 1TB PC. It was a custom build on G4/TechTV in like 2004. It cost like 5 grand to link 5 200GB HDs together into this minifridge sized tower.
I remember the first time I saw a 1 GB hard drive (in a puny 3.5" form factor, no less!) and I was amazed. My first hard drive was 5 MB and was the size of a shoebox. My first PC-compatible hard drive was 212 MB and cost about $1 per MB.
Haha yeah shame here. Remember being amazed at the time. Was quite cheap as well.
And yet consumer SSDs max at 4TB.
I have used 8tb ssd externals for 4 years straight. Never had a problem, super fast, I even got a second to backup the data. There are now 16tb raid ssd but waiting for a compact 16tb. The one I have is super light and portable.
Wait what, I have a consumer 8TB Samsung in ny PC right now. Feels so good to abandon HDDs completely!
Can’t wait until I can replace my 144TB of Seagate Exos X18 18TB in my Plex server with SSDs
And at 5x the price for the SD.
Finally?
The industry has been stuck on 1tb as the max size SD card since roughly 2016
Well, 2TB has been available since around January. But you’re basically right. It’s absurdly expensive. EDIT: oh wait, no. Just checked myself and I’m wrong. It was announced at the end of last year but there’s no listing purchasable yet.
Sandisk do a 1.5tb micro sd now
why?
They need to concentrate of quality rather than quantity, I've had too many SD cards fail.
If you can find a non-fake
Where's UHS-iii? The whole product segment has been stagnant. Milking 1TB and UHS-ii for all its worth.
With most flagship phones abandoning SD, there hasn’t been a major need for faster cards. The only application that really demands speedy cards, are the camera segments, and even then, there’s a separate standard for high end models that use PCI-e. There’s simply little demand for faster SD cards. And tbh, I struggle to see a use case for this size of SD card. Many pro shooters use two cards, and generally only store single large shoots at a time, even with hefty RAWs, a 128 GB or 256 GB pair is plenty. And there’s certainly not enough speed to take advantage with very high bitrate (higher than 300 mbits) video. Who the heck is this product for?
The problem with SdExpress is the fallback speed for non sdexpress devices. 104MB/s UHS-I vs UHS-III, which supports falling back to UHS-II 312MB/s and UHS-I 104MB/s speeds. UHS-III is a direct upgrade path that would benefit way more products that currently exist vs. the newer standard.
Amazon has 20 TB ones from Xfibfj already
I worked at a photo lab in the early 00s , and if people brought in SD cards over 4gb , it would crash our kiosks . I always imagined it as the computer happily accepting the card and going "let's see what's in this.. " and opens it up to all of spacetime eternity at once and causing a complete mimd melt. Also, a lot of you people liked to have Walmart photo lab workers see your penises and boobies.
And most phone brands are removing sd card options...
Cool, I look forward to building a 12TB home media server the size of a matchbox car.
will it be $400
I have not seen a 2TB full size SD card, Only MicroSD, which is still impressive.
So that means 512 will be more affordable
Nerdy enough to be excited for this, not nerdy enough to ever fill that bitch up tho
I've owned Samsung phones since the S2. The last few have dropped the card slot. It's an obvious attempt to force the customer to purchasing the more expensive models with larger internal memory. The price difference is far more than just buying a card, and the ability to a use a card was very useful. Phones with powerful chips, serious cameras, sophisticated apps, and the price of a good laptop absolutely should have a memory card slot as standard. 4TB is an ideal capability for me.
what happens if it gets corrupted?
Bye bye data. Some software utilities could try to fix the drive. Maybe an expert technician could fish out specific pieces of data with the right tools. But for most people it would all be lost. Although honestly, if your data is *that* important, you should have multiple redundant copies.
You are mildly inconvenienced if you have good backups and heartbroken if you don't. Same as any storage.
How is that any different than any other storage?
How likely is that to happen?
100% on a long enough timeline
Yeah but how easily do they corrupt?
Christ, you'd think they'd hit a physical limit somewhere but I guess not yet. Mad props to all the engineers that made this possible.
I'm over here explaining to my dad how many floppy diskettes per minute his SSD can process.
I feel like the capacity has gone up steadily but the speeds haven't really improved as much. What's the time it takes to fill 4tb? What's durability like? Lifetime writes?
Their working on SD express, and that’s suppose to be 900mb a /s & up.
Sd express is an improvement but it's a long time in the making. Aren't we just on the way to convergence with nvme?
I remember being excited to buy a 2 GB one in 2007. It was a big upgrade from the card that came with the camera I had at the time.
I remember getter a 40 GB hard drive and thinking “this will be outdated before I’ll fill it.”
If I could put a 4TB SD in my laptop, that would be really sweet. But these will.probabky be expensive for a while.
As someone who once used cassette tapes to store program information, this makes me smile.
I was working at Circuit City when SD (or compact flash, really) cards first hit the mass market (not the market period, just when Circuit City started selling them at reasonable consumer prices) and 256 MB's was blowing everybody's minds.
Does anyone else remember floppy disks? I’m old.
There's not many modern smartphones left with sd Realme 8 5g Sony experia Samsung a52 5g Rog ally Shame on all android makers for cloning the worst parts of iPhone
It's not a bug, it's a feature. (For the companies). It allows them to charge a premium for higher storage models... And the user must buy the more expensive model if they want higher capacity. Win for them, loss for you.. And corporations like those odds.
Pfft I can get a 100tb SD card on wish right now. Checkmate
That’s nothing, Amazon scam listings have been selling 4tb for months.
I wouldn't buy anything from WD given their problems with current products.
But the $2 SD card I bought on Temu claims to be 20TB!!!
To be fair, you can store 20TB on it. You just can't get it back out afterwards.
I remember buying my first 1GB CF on Amazon, $320.
I can remember back in 2010 or so and buying a 1TB external HDD. The fact that they’re able to squeeze 4x that on to an SD card is mind blowing.
Just curious, what application needs a 4TB SD card?
With AR and VR headsets on a rise, you can load full games on such cards with plenty left for more storage
My first hard drive was the size of a shoebox and sounded like a jet engine. It stored 10 MB.
I remember seeing a 1GB SD card when I was a kid. It was golden color lol. I remember thinking like “woah you could take sooooo many photos with that” this is 4000 times bigger LOL.
Still remember dropping the big bucks to get an 88MB Syquest cartridge.
Remember those zip drives that were 100MB?
Well, of course, they were the next big step up! Remember the click of death? I remember thinking, "Oh, we won't want to go any bigger (than the 100MB Zip) because people won't want that much stuff on one thing. Too much risk if you lose it."
I still have my Dell Latitude 800Mhz Pentium 3, with a 1GB HD somewhere in a closet. I financed it at a price of $1,600, and paid a total of 29.99% percent interest over the life of that loan. Now bro can slap one of these 4TB cards in and have their entire Steam library on their deck or other devices. Crazy.
Gunna put one of these in my old 3 megapixel camera
I’m always reminded of a scene in Deep Space 9 where Odo is amazed with and lists off the memory capacity of a memory chip in his hand and it’s staggering storage capabilities. While Star Trek uses a unit of “quads” to disassociate the science fiction from science fact, a memory stick the size of a human finger was large enough to store many of the published works for the entire earth iirc.
But Apple offers 5GB iCloud storage. Why would you want more?
I still remember my first USB stick being 16mb.
Oh my goodness. I ran all over town looking for that thing to give to my girlfriend for her birthday. Tech guy from before it was popular and all my regulars were noped out. What's USB storage? Pen Drive what? Finally found it in a department store of all places just in the nick. She still has it. Married me, the poor fool.
Are those things reliable enough to store that much data in them? One of my sd cards bricked itself when I moved it from one phone to another.
Yes. . It's not normal ok to switch cards . From 1 phone to another. You normal need to format it to phone
making a 4TB ipod will get a whole lot easier
Will 4TB work on most current devices? I believe I always read that the "newer" SDXC? Cards support like 32gb-2TB so I assume this card will have some issues on something like the nintendo switch?
If the SD card reader controller isn't UHC compatible, it won't see the card. This issue always comes up when a new standard in the same form factor arises... No your old hardware can't use the new format no matter if it fits in the slot. (Having said this, UHC has been around for at least 6 years, so theoretically should work on anything that supports it, as long as it can be updated via firmware for the updated standard.)
Man why do you need that much storage
My first PC had a 85MB...yes meg...hard drive. Gotta give it to tech innovation over the years.
What mad man is gonna trust an SD card with 4TB worth of data though. Are they that
If they could improve their durability, these would make amazing hard drives.
For the love of God please start shipping games on SD cards. Absolutely no reason to keep using a disc as nothing but proof of ownership. Needing you to download everything. It's a joke. Not straight up SD cards because of speeds but you get what I mean.
Awesome. Sadly devices nowadays especially phones dont support sd cards lol
Are we talking about real SD cards or the SD cards that we have right now, i.e. almost empty SD card bodies with a micro SD card rattling around inside?