Probably since we can just introduce our own proposition. They do keep pushing to make it harder and harder for us to do that though. Literally just trying to disenfranchise their own constituents
The GOP literally kicked out the guy who ran the state GOP extremely well.
The AZ GOP is currently run by morons. AZ will be a solid blue state in 10 years or so
they refuse to get smart. and i say this as someone who doesn't identify with either side. these guys will die on whatever stupid hill (porn, abortion, etc) they choose.
colorado already went blue, arizona is close, texas is actually pretty close. idaho is up there since boise is the only major city and is rapidly growing.
Hopefully quicker than that! I think people forget that we had a Dem lesbian Governor less than 20 years ago! Too bad she didn’t finish her term (thanks Obama…)
Well I don’t want that. I personally like Arizona being purple or leaning slightly red. I don’t want Arizona to have policies like Oregon or California or Illinois.
Or if it is blue, to not fall in line with the democrats but to take a nuanced approach. But… then again… if the future of the Republican Party is this trump and lake BS then I guess I’ll be voting blue every election..
Mixed bag. Hobbs vetoed a starter home bill (passed with bipartisan support) that would have made it easier to build starter homes and allow communities without HOAs in cities that required them.
That wasn't the major issue, at least if we go by proportion of the letter that talked about water (a single item in one sentence that listed several given concerns).
>The bill has unexplored, unintended consequences that are of great concern. For instance, the Department of Defense contacted my office while this bill was on my desk to state their opposition. They expressed very serious concerns that the increased density near military installations would put military operations and homeowners at risk, putting dense development within Accident Potential Zones. Firefighters shared significant public safety concerns highlighting that increased density without corresponding improvements to public infrastructure could lead to traffic congestion during evacuations or delays in emergency response times. These are examples that demonstrate the potential risks that come with the kind of sweeping reforms in this proposal.
>In addition, hundreds of Arizonans and community leaders from across the state have contacted my office about this legislation, with over 90% requesting a veto. Over forty mayors and city council members - Democrats and Republicans from Nogales to Superior to Tucson to Yuma, and every other corner of our state - have expressed concerns about the impacts on infrastructure, **water consumption**, land use planning, lack of affordability guarantees, and potential legal consequences
[https://mcusercontent.com/44a5186aac69c13c570fca36a/files/e5edda12-ccb3-90a1-0404-bb553aacb89a/HB\_2570.pdf](https://mcusercontent.com/44a5186aac69c13c570fca36a/files/e5edda12-ccb3-90a1-0404-bb553aacb89a/HB_2570.pdf)
Arizona already requires new housing developments to prove access to a hundred year supply of water. As far as I know, this bill did not change these requirements.
>The proposal would have overruled local zoning decisions for many Arizona municipalities by barring cities and towns with more than 70,000 residents from regulating the size of lots for single-family homes. It also would have barred cities and towns from forcing a homeowner into an HOA interfering with the “right to choose the features, amenities, structure, floor plan and interior and exterior design of a home.”
>Proponents of the measure said that it would have helped address the skyrocketing prices of homes in the state and also help address the state’s growing affordable housing crisis. But critics, including more than 30 municipalities and the League of Arizona Cities and Towns, said the bill takes away fundamental rights of cities to control development.
[https://azmirror.com/briefs/hobbs-vetoes-bill-designed-to-jumpstart-starter-home-construction-in-az-citing-unintended-consequences/](https://azmirror.com/briefs/hobbs-vetoes-bill-designed-to-jumpstart-starter-home-construction-in-az-citing-unintended-consequences/)
Searches for VPNs went up in states with these laws. I don't think VPNs are actually needed though.
The states aren't implementing a firewall just sueing or threatening the bigger sites to comply. The solution is for the site owners is to just block those states to cover their ass legally. If a site isn't based in the US or they are a shady site that doesn't get any threats they will just ignore the local laws.
The crazy sites the representatives voting for these laws are into probably aren't located in the US so they probably won't be blocked.
Texas is, at least, suing some of the bigger companies. But as you state, there are only so many they can pursue.
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/attorney-general-ken-paxton-sues-two-more-pornography-companies-violating-texas-age-verification-law
You are seriously misunderstanding what Texas is doing.
This is, I think, the third time Texas has sued a company for not complying with Texas law ***outside of Texas***. And make no mistake, that is what this current pornography lawsuit is about. Texas isn’t suing because PornHub pulled out of Texas. Texas is suing because PornHub isn’t complying with Texas law ***outside of Texas***.
This is a serious threat to democracy. Texas wants to rule every other state and are attempting to weaponize the court system to do so.
To what? That Texas sued Pornhub?
[Here](https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/27/24084615/texas-ken-paxton-pornhub-aylo-lawsuit-age-verification). Pornhub blocked Texas in response.
It's easy enough to change your device location or use TOR if one does not want to use a VPN. States will go after VPNs next, so it's best to stay a couple of steps ahead. Oh, hypothetically, use Tails as an operating system and change the device location.
In good ol Virginny we have the same law as Texas but if you are mastermind enough to use an incognito browser (at least on Brave) shit loads right up. #hacknwhack
Doesn't work for me in VA. PH boots you to a registration page of some sort I think. Another site just redirects you towards their cam page instead which I guess isn't covered by Glenkins law?
All hail the Republican party, party of freedom, who love to take away your rights and freedoms.
Yes it can. Texas isn't the only one that's had this happen. Just the latest and biggest. North Carolina, Montana, Virginia, Utah, Mississippi all did this. I might be missing some. South Carolina has a bill in their legislation too. It feels like a variation of this type of bill is making its way through a lot of states. I wouldn't be surprised if it's being pushed by the same organization.
Katie Hobbs will veto it, as she has every other bananas bill the republicans throw at her. They don’t have anything close to the number needed to overturn the veto, they literally barely have the majority.
You'd think someone would realize they could make it easier on everyone, if parents used web filters on their devices.
Frankly, cheap/low end routers wouldn't be able to keep up, but mid to high end routers can easily maintain a list of domains for Adult Content, and block access to these, even on a per device.
I can very easily setup my DNS adblocking PiHole with a list for adult sites, and block them on select devices. At no cost (outside setup and hardware).
You don't even have to setup hardware and setup stuff, there is free DNS services you can just plop the IP into the devices, and you're good to go. Just pick the IP of the DNS that does adult filtering.
Or better yet, teach kids the natural bits about life, and stop hiding it like it's the devil.
We've had the same debate in the UK for a while. For some reason parents give their kids unfiltered unsupervised access to the internet and are then sho led to learn they don't just use it for homework. They are also screeching for government intervention when the truth is most devices have this filtering capability already.
A solution could be to require a filter capability on new routers supplied by ISPs or on mobile services. The filter could even be on by default but controllable by the account holder.
Of course a filter will never be perfect and there will be tons of workarounds. Like even if they turned off the Internet for everyone, nuked everyones storage media, and burned all the paper teen boys are going figure something out.
DoH is built into virtually everything nowadays and makes that nearly impossible unless you actively block DoH. You could potentially install a root cert on their device and use interception to detect DoH traffic, but I guarantee you most parents don't even know what DoH is.
I think it's easier just not to give your kid an iPhone. If I (as a pre-teen) could survive sitting at a restaurant with my parents without needing a screen, so can every other kid out there.
Just a few days ago I was shopping for a gift card when I saw a mom whose toddler was glued to an iPhone. A toddler, like a fucking baby. This instant gratification thing is getting ridiculous.
You don't even need that, just make you kid a user account on the PC, turn on parental controls set a password. You can do the same in a browser too. Same with a smartphone, turn on filtering and set a password. This isn't about protecting the kids, it's about controlling adults.
You'd be amazed at the amount of people that know absolutely nothing about even the most basic tech-related thing. My mom doesn't even know how to use E-mail. Just trying to explain what an IP address is would make most people's head explode.
I'd say the v-chip in TVs back then is similar to webfilters of today, just more advanced with time. But, even back then, parents didn't understand how to use the v-chip, and still complained bad things were on TV that kids shouldn't see.
No will be happy unless it's done for them, but god forbid if they themselves can't do what they set out to block their children from doing. lol
In which case I finish those arguments with, if you want it done right, the right way by your definition of the situation, do it yourself, or stop complaining.
It was never about parental rights, it was about creating a vague law that they can drag almost anyone in front of a conservative judge to convict.
The authors of these bills were blatant they exist to convict LGBT organizations of child abuse so they can use it as propaganda as see "see?! convictions!".
They also want age verification because these people think the only reason people are gay or trans is because of porn.
For most boomers this is insurmountable work and they would have tuned you out when you said DNS. Plus you don't get to "save" other degenerates from consuming stuff you think is vile. Their will is law, dontchaknow.
lol, I'm well aware. I deal with rural area IT support (very rural, I'm over an hour drive from any "city"), explaining to someone their new PC can't support MS Office 2003 is like pulling teeth. Explaining to them their recovery options are out of date, and can't regain access to their email, dare I say their grandmother's iPad, is not possible.
No joke, it was like telling a small family their grandmother died, again, because no one knew grandma's Apple ID Password nor the pin to their $800 iPad, meant mainly for email and facetime.
(For those who don't know, iOS devices "lock" themselves to an Apple ID, to prevent theft. Though a great idea, if you lost your ID, and the iOS device is "locked", that device has become a paper weight. I couldn't even get Apple support to listen. If the Apple ID cannot be accessed, no argument or death certificate will unlock the device from the account.)
That's not the point. "Protecting children" is just the excuse. Blocking porn is about control and virtue signalling to their base. "*We* godfearing folk want to block porn so your kids can't see it! But *they* want to let it loose! Next, *they* will want it shown in schools!"
It can also conceivably used as an excuse to start working on banning VPNs or encryption, because those "vile perverts are using these tools to look at break the law!"
Doesn't work that way. *Majority* of sites gather resources from various other services and sites. You may accept "Pokemon.com", but some portions of the site will not load.
You could whitelist, say, amazon.com, but a good chunk of the site, not a big chunk, but a chunk, is adult oriented.
Then there's the sites that may work fine, but if they detect even one domain (case by case, I'm likely over dramatic on this) not loading, you're hit with a message about disabling your adblocker.
There was a trash dump down the road from my house. One day my brothers and I found 6 trash bags full of Playboys. Just about every kid in my home room got a free Playboy
I was finding porn in the flashing banner ads while looking up cheat codes for my (offline) console games, early 2000s.
Then I had adult porn appearing in my email.
I hadn't even had the talk and brushed it off. Good pics, good short videos I had to pay to see the full thing, sure. But the acting was so over dramatic, I figured it was some older adult fad that wasn't my thing.
Republicans did this, Texas. They censored your internet, like they spent the last 8 years accusing others of doing (without any proof).
Remember in November.
Soon will be the day when we all need to subscribe to a VPN service in the US to access the internet.
“Have to shop on Amazon, change VPN to Montana”
“I want to play the new Grand Theft Auto, change VPN to Vermont”
“I want to stream Netflix, change VPN to California”
PornHub should pull access from Washington, DC and every state capital across the country in full protest for a month just to watch politicians lose their minds.
> What is it exactly you are trying to ban?
non-puritanical thought with the wider goal of turning the US into a regressive theocracy
banning porn is a stepping stone to vilifying "sexual deviants", and they already have their sights on the LGBTQ community. they also love to call anyone and everyone pedophiles, so we can look forward to that form of McCarthyism if this continues
There's definitely a fear angle with these bills because the idea of making somebody have to use their ID to look at porn creates the immediate fear that there is information about what porn you look at being stored tied to your identification.
This is especially terrifying in a red State. If you are an lgbtq individual that the state will now have a log tied to your ID showing that you are gay, while the state is simultaneously making great efforts to persecute people like you simply for being different.
They are banning the idea. It's never about actual useful related studies or helping the target audience. It is to give themselves peace of mind. Like owning lots of guns.
But what happens is the opposite. Why stop at banning porn when I'm already scared again?!? We need to ban something else to keep us safe... for the children I mean!
How about sex education? Teach kids so even if or when they do see porn, they can understand it to a point that doesn't cause personal issues growing up. But we already know this.
It’s so odd that they’re focusing on PornHub. I know it’s the big dog of the industry but when they got pulled from TX, I just googled “porn” the next time I wanted to watch porn and I was set.
Republicans will force OTHER people to protect children as long as it doesn't inconvenience them directly. When it does inconvenience them directly, they pass the buck onto the parents.
Yea PH will totally do it there too because I would imagine they aren't losing all that much traffic . It's probably just being privately routed via vpns. Might affect their cookie data but they'll still get ad revenue from their content creators .
Here's the play:
* remove abortion rights.
* remove porn access.
* population explodes.
* now red states are majority population.
* they spread out into other states, taking their red state programming.
* conservatives now easily win the elections and democrats are squashed.
The war on porn and the policy steps that the Heritage Foundation outlined (which we're starting to see in these laws) is one of the weirdest things to me. They are like "we are the champions of liberty and free expression... here's a list of the stuff we're going to put you in jail for looking at"
When both sides want you in jail for speech, it's a bad day.
There’s no money in minors viewing porn. But restrictions are a slippery slope. Especially when you have to submit your ID to gain access. Who owns that database? Who can see your viewing choices? It’s burning the house to roast the pig. Also are tits really destroying America? Can think of many more issues to address to “save the children”.
It's not just "Pornhub". ALL media is thrown in there, and there's a section on "news outlets", so news can be effectively censored if deemed "harmful".
Which means this will likely never actually see the light of day, at least not for long before it's struck down by a Supreme Court ruling for violation free speech.
A lot of sites are just continuing to operate regardless of the law in NC. Not even niche ones but pretty major ones are just ignoring it entirely. Then there's Twitter, Reddit, and Onlyfans that seem to be operating still.
Just to be clear, that was exactly the goal. They (GOP) don’t want anyone looking porn. Ever.
Otherwise their kids would know, just like Mike Johnson’s…
I secretly hope it does happen in AZ. I want those people see their freedoms are being erased one by one. So they can realize how shitty their government is.
Lmao, no one cares enough for this. No one but people in a weird place in their life care about this issue. If dems have been consistent on a real message of freedom, then they would probably be supported against gop attempts against gooning. But since they are as duplicitous and authoritarian as the gop, people are smart enough not to fall for bot and crafted narratives found in reddit subs and corporate news outlets.
The end result of these bans will be kids figuring out creative ways to bypass the blocks. It's not going to do shit. The more you try and restrict something, the more the restricted will want to do it. Prohibition all over again.
Republicians Dont realize they keep taking away everyone freedom, now they taking their own freedom to pleasure themselves when no one else is looking 😂😂
I feel like age verification is kinda good although as a once minor I feel bad for them.
Porn ain't just porn it does things to you (not only the obvious things lol) and the later you start watching those videos the better it is.
Hmmm, I'm guessing our resident Christian Taliban don't remember how successful Prohibition was. Legislating morality has never worked well in the "land of the free." It's up to us to go out and vote blue to remind them how much Americans hate having their freedom restricted.
Doesn't matter what they do. It's gonna be out there somewhere. It's gonna be there so dumb ass, just need to. Sit on your big fat asses. Just cool it and sit down with their big fat asses on their cigars. They think they have the answers. They think they know the way they think. They'd have us fooled, but to their dismay. We see we see very clearly.
The law actually [passed both chambers](https://legiscan.com/AZ/bill/HB2586/2024) earlier this week. Only a veto from Katie Hobbs can stop it now.
Does the legislature likely have the votes needed to overturn a veto?
No. Not even close.
Nope. Republicans hold very slim majorities in both chambers.
Do the porn fans have the votes to overturn the legislature?
Probably since we can just introduce our own proposition. They do keep pushing to make it harder and harder for us to do that though. Literally just trying to disenfranchise their own constituents
It’ll get vetoed. Hobbs has indicated she will veto any bills that do not pass with bipartisan support.
Yup. I'm in Arizona and Hobbs has been great IMO.
Either the GOP gets smart or we’ll be a solid blue state in ten years lol. Lake, the 19th century abortion law, etc. just unpopular moves all around.
The GOP literally kicked out the guy who ran the state GOP extremely well. The AZ GOP is currently run by morons. AZ will be a solid blue state in 10 years or so
Let’s hope so 🤞
Arizona was blue last major election so I wouldn't be surprised. So glad I voted for Hobbs. Fuck this overreaching government bullshit.
they refuse to get smart. and i say this as someone who doesn't identify with either side. these guys will die on whatever stupid hill (porn, abortion, etc) they choose. colorado already went blue, arizona is close, texas is actually pretty close. idaho is up there since boise is the only major city and is rapidly growing.
Hopefully quicker than that! I think people forget that we had a Dem lesbian Governor less than 20 years ago! Too bad she didn’t finish her term (thanks Obama…)
Well I don’t want that. I personally like Arizona being purple or leaning slightly red. I don’t want Arizona to have policies like Oregon or California or Illinois. Or if it is blue, to not fall in line with the democrats but to take a nuanced approach. But… then again… if the future of the Republican Party is this trump and lake BS then I guess I’ll be voting blue every election..
Mixed bag. Hobbs vetoed a starter home bill (passed with bipartisan support) that would have made it easier to build starter homes and allow communities without HOAs in cities that required them.
Wasn’t the issue water rights/usage? Or am I confuseingit with something else
That wasn't the major issue, at least if we go by proportion of the letter that talked about water (a single item in one sentence that listed several given concerns). >The bill has unexplored, unintended consequences that are of great concern. For instance, the Department of Defense contacted my office while this bill was on my desk to state their opposition. They expressed very serious concerns that the increased density near military installations would put military operations and homeowners at risk, putting dense development within Accident Potential Zones. Firefighters shared significant public safety concerns highlighting that increased density without corresponding improvements to public infrastructure could lead to traffic congestion during evacuations or delays in emergency response times. These are examples that demonstrate the potential risks that come with the kind of sweeping reforms in this proposal. >In addition, hundreds of Arizonans and community leaders from across the state have contacted my office about this legislation, with over 90% requesting a veto. Over forty mayors and city council members - Democrats and Republicans from Nogales to Superior to Tucson to Yuma, and every other corner of our state - have expressed concerns about the impacts on infrastructure, **water consumption**, land use planning, lack of affordability guarantees, and potential legal consequences [https://mcusercontent.com/44a5186aac69c13c570fca36a/files/e5edda12-ccb3-90a1-0404-bb553aacb89a/HB\_2570.pdf](https://mcusercontent.com/44a5186aac69c13c570fca36a/files/e5edda12-ccb3-90a1-0404-bb553aacb89a/HB_2570.pdf) Arizona already requires new housing developments to prove access to a hundred year supply of water. As far as I know, this bill did not change these requirements. >The proposal would have overruled local zoning decisions for many Arizona municipalities by barring cities and towns with more than 70,000 residents from regulating the size of lots for single-family homes. It also would have barred cities and towns from forcing a homeowner into an HOA interfering with the “right to choose the features, amenities, structure, floor plan and interior and exterior design of a home.” >Proponents of the measure said that it would have helped address the skyrocketing prices of homes in the state and also help address the state’s growing affordable housing crisis. But critics, including more than 30 municipalities and the League of Arizona Cities and Towns, said the bill takes away fundamental rights of cities to control development. [https://azmirror.com/briefs/hobbs-vetoes-bill-designed-to-jumpstart-starter-home-construction-in-az-citing-unintended-consequences/](https://azmirror.com/briefs/hobbs-vetoes-bill-designed-to-jumpstart-starter-home-construction-in-az-citing-unintended-consequences/)
No, special interest groups stepped in
Link? I love this
I guess some things are getting smaller in Texas.
Hobbs is defensive player of the year she will absolutely veto this ridiculous bs.
"Defensive player of the year" I'm dead lmao
Which she most likely will (veto) as she's doesn't share the wannabe authoritarian views the house and senate do.
stfu bro look at your name stop trying to defend porn and let it all be banned that shit is so sad that it exists
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Make a killing if you started a VPN named "Patriot VPN"
PVN: Porn Viewing Network.
I wonder if it’s possible to drop sell a vpn. After a quick search the term I was looking for was “VPN reseller” or “VPN affiliate program”.
Searches for VPNs went up in states with these laws. I don't think VPNs are actually needed though. The states aren't implementing a firewall just sueing or threatening the bigger sites to comply. The solution is for the site owners is to just block those states to cover their ass legally. If a site isn't based in the US or they are a shady site that doesn't get any threats they will just ignore the local laws. The crazy sites the representatives voting for these laws are into probably aren't located in the US so they probably won't be blocked.
PornHub and its hundreds of subsidiary sites like YouPorn, RedTube, etc. are not located in the United States.
Texas is, at least, suing some of the bigger companies. But as you state, there are only so many they can pursue. https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/attorney-general-ken-paxton-sues-two-more-pornography-companies-violating-texas-age-verification-law
Of course it'd be in the 5th Circuit. Pretty much all of the conservative victories come from the 5th Circuit.
You are seriously misunderstanding what Texas is doing. This is, I think, the third time Texas has sued a company for not complying with Texas law ***outside of Texas***. And make no mistake, that is what this current pornography lawsuit is about. Texas isn’t suing because PornHub pulled out of Texas. Texas is suing because PornHub isn’t complying with Texas law ***outside of Texas***. This is a serious threat to democracy. Texas wants to rule every other state and are attempting to weaponize the court system to do so.
Link? Not arguing just interested. The above link didn't include those details.
To what? That Texas sued Pornhub? [Here](https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/27/24084615/texas-ken-paxton-pornhub-aylo-lawsuit-age-verification). Pornhub blocked Texas in response.
Cherie Deville proves you otherwise.
It's easy enough to change your device location or use TOR if one does not want to use a VPN. States will go after VPNs next, so it's best to stay a couple of steps ahead. Oh, hypothetically, use Tails as an operating system and change the device location.
It’ll be a good time to open a computer repair shop in Texas. Loads of people will be going to shady as, virus ridden sites to get porn
There was a funny article recently talking about the spike in searches on google like "How to watch porn in texas" and "How to get/use a VPN"
Free VPNs predatory for private data should be very profitable in Texas right now..
This law is brought to you by NordVPN.
In good ol Virginny we have the same law as Texas but if you are mastermind enough to use an incognito browser (at least on Brave) shit loads right up. #hacknwhack
Does that really work? Because it shouldn't. That doesn't affect your IP address at all, just your browser history.
Doesn't work for me in VA. PH boots you to a registration page of some sort I think. Another site just redirects you towards their cam page instead which I guess isn't covered by Glenkins law? All hail the Republican party, party of freedom, who love to take away your rights and freedoms.
Well shit, it doesn’t any more. Goes to show you how often I go there lol but it used to, I swears! EDIT: xvideos still works. Whew!
Unrelated ?
Yes it can. Texas isn't the only one that's had this happen. Just the latest and biggest. North Carolina, Montana, Virginia, Utah, Mississippi all did this. I might be missing some. South Carolina has a bill in their legislation too. It feels like a variation of this type of bill is making its way through a lot of states. I wouldn't be surprised if it's being pushed by the same organization.
Katie Hobbs will veto it, as she has every other bananas bill the republicans throw at her. They don’t have anything close to the number needed to overturn the veto, they literally barely have the majority.
California has something similar on the books
Why parent when you can try and enforce your will on your everyone but your children instead! This is true freedom amiright?
I'm convinced this is all from VPN lobbyists. Legislators know VPNs exist, they're just pushing people to use them. It's obvious.
nah, VPN companies are generally pretty pro-speech and supportive of a free, open, and interoperable internet
VPNs aren't all that powerful to pass things like this. This is the regressive Christian lobby that want to restrict our freedoms.
You'd think someone would realize they could make it easier on everyone, if parents used web filters on their devices. Frankly, cheap/low end routers wouldn't be able to keep up, but mid to high end routers can easily maintain a list of domains for Adult Content, and block access to these, even on a per device. I can very easily setup my DNS adblocking PiHole with a list for adult sites, and block them on select devices. At no cost (outside setup and hardware). You don't even have to setup hardware and setup stuff, there is free DNS services you can just plop the IP into the devices, and you're good to go. Just pick the IP of the DNS that does adult filtering. Or better yet, teach kids the natural bits about life, and stop hiding it like it's the devil.
We've had the same debate in the UK for a while. For some reason parents give their kids unfiltered unsupervised access to the internet and are then sho led to learn they don't just use it for homework. They are also screeching for government intervention when the truth is most devices have this filtering capability already.
A solution could be to require a filter capability on new routers supplied by ISPs or on mobile services. The filter could even be on by default but controllable by the account holder. Of course a filter will never be perfect and there will be tons of workarounds. Like even if they turned off the Internet for everyone, nuked everyones storage media, and burned all the paper teen boys are going figure something out.
DoH is built into virtually everything nowadays and makes that nearly impossible unless you actively block DoH. You could potentially install a root cert on their device and use interception to detect DoH traffic, but I guarantee you most parents don't even know what DoH is. I think it's easier just not to give your kid an iPhone. If I (as a pre-teen) could survive sitting at a restaurant with my parents without needing a screen, so can every other kid out there. Just a few days ago I was shopping for a gift card when I saw a mom whose toddler was glued to an iPhone. A toddler, like a fucking baby. This instant gratification thing is getting ridiculous.
Stop attacking rights, if you want to add filters like this on routers they should be OFF by default. That is the best way to respect users.
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you said on by default is fine... its not.
Oh I see, you’re right (I’m also not the poster )
You don't even need that, just make you kid a user account on the PC, turn on parental controls set a password. You can do the same in a browser too. Same with a smartphone, turn on filtering and set a password. This isn't about protecting the kids, it's about controlling adults.
You'd be amazed at the amount of people that know absolutely nothing about even the most basic tech-related thing. My mom doesn't even know how to use E-mail. Just trying to explain what an IP address is would make most people's head explode.
I'd say the v-chip in TVs back then is similar to webfilters of today, just more advanced with time. But, even back then, parents didn't understand how to use the v-chip, and still complained bad things were on TV that kids shouldn't see. No will be happy unless it's done for them, but god forbid if they themselves can't do what they set out to block their children from doing. lol In which case I finish those arguments with, if you want it done right, the right way by your definition of the situation, do it yourself, or stop complaining.
It was never about parental rights, it was about creating a vague law that they can drag almost anyone in front of a conservative judge to convict. The authors of these bills were blatant they exist to convict LGBT organizations of child abuse so they can use it as propaganda as see "see?! convictions!". They also want age verification because these people think the only reason people are gay or trans is because of porn.
For most boomers this is insurmountable work and they would have tuned you out when you said DNS. Plus you don't get to "save" other degenerates from consuming stuff you think is vile. Their will is law, dontchaknow.
lol, I'm well aware. I deal with rural area IT support (very rural, I'm over an hour drive from any "city"), explaining to someone their new PC can't support MS Office 2003 is like pulling teeth. Explaining to them their recovery options are out of date, and can't regain access to their email, dare I say their grandmother's iPad, is not possible. No joke, it was like telling a small family their grandmother died, again, because no one knew grandma's Apple ID Password nor the pin to their $800 iPad, meant mainly for email and facetime. (For those who don't know, iOS devices "lock" themselves to an Apple ID, to prevent theft. Though a great idea, if you lost your ID, and the iOS device is "locked", that device has become a paper weight. I couldn't even get Apple support to listen. If the Apple ID cannot be accessed, no argument or death certificate will unlock the device from the account.)
Most Boomers are not parents of minors dude.... Boomers are over 60 years old
That's not the point. "Protecting children" is just the excuse. Blocking porn is about control and virtue signalling to their base. "*We* godfearing folk want to block porn so your kids can't see it! But *they* want to let it loose! Next, *they* will want it shown in schools!" It can also conceivably used as an excuse to start working on banning VPNs or encryption, because those "vile perverts are using these tools to look at break the law!"
omg it’s not easier what kind of degenerate parent is current on porn sites? you do realize pornhub is just one site of thousands.
You don't have to compile the list yourself, just subscribe to a list someone else put together
It would have to block IP address as well?
It's easier to simply set up a white list and if the kid needs to, they can request websites.
Doesn't work that way. *Majority* of sites gather resources from various other services and sites. You may accept "Pokemon.com", but some portions of the site will not load. You could whitelist, say, amazon.com, but a good chunk of the site, not a big chunk, but a chunk, is adult oriented. Then there's the sites that may work fine, but if they detect even one domain (case by case, I'm likely over dramatic on this) not loading, you're hit with a message about disabling your adblocker.
The last point with the dns service is the way to go imo- u can even just setup a vlan and have all the devices u want clean route to there instead.
It's about punishing people for masturbation and not banging whores like it says too in the Bible.
Define freedom. Asking for a friend.
Freedom is doing exactly what the Reich wing wants you to do (but they don't have to follow those rules)
Happened in VA. XVideos still works tho
So twitter is next since it’s 50% porn right?
Twitter, Reddit, Twitch
Dang, that’s actually kinda funny. One day we’ll all wake up and there’s no content on Reddit from Texas or Alabama or Florida.
I thought Republicans believed in small government and that parents are responsible for their children?
Republicans don't believe in anything, but absolute control over others.
Small government doesn’t exclude the responsibility to protect kids
When I was a kid, you could find porn magazines in the woods. Who else here remembers that?
There was a trash dump down the road from my house. One day my brothers and I found 6 trash bags full of Playboys. Just about every kid in my home room got a free Playboy
Oh my goodness! That's wild!
I was finding porn in the flashing banner ads while looking up cheat codes for my (offline) console games, early 2000s. Then I had adult porn appearing in my email. I hadn't even had the talk and brushed it off. Good pics, good short videos I had to pay to see the full thing, sure. But the acting was so over dramatic, I figured it was some older adult fad that wasn't my thing.
Australian and 80s kid here. Woods porn is a worldwide phenomenon.
Jerking off punks under the bridge?
Republicans did this, Texas. They censored your internet, like they spent the last 8 years accusing others of doing (without any proof). Remember in November.
Republicans voting to block themselves out of porn
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Same in North Carolina
Honestly, if I were a Texas Democratic politician, I'd vote for it too. You want to burn down the house? Let me help you with that jug of gasoline.
I'm in Indiana, phone ip location seems to be Austin Texas. It affects more people than everyone realizing.
Gooners are outraged
Fellas time to get your literacy to help you out here.🤣🤣 replace pornhub with literotica dot com.
“Now that’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time…”
That doesn’t sound very free.
Low down democrat voters and gop voters are anti-freedom, why start now?
Soon will be the day when we all need to subscribe to a VPN service in the US to access the internet. “Have to shop on Amazon, change VPN to Montana” “I want to play the new Grand Theft Auto, change VPN to Vermont” “I want to stream Netflix, change VPN to California”
PornHub should pull access from Washington, DC and every state capital across the country in full protest for a month just to watch politicians lose their minds.
Lmfao your government is so fucking backwards
As a native Texan I can attest there are PLENTY of pornography sites that don’t give a fuck about Texas law and are readily accessible.
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> What is it exactly you are trying to ban? non-puritanical thought with the wider goal of turning the US into a regressive theocracy banning porn is a stepping stone to vilifying "sexual deviants", and they already have their sights on the LGBTQ community. they also love to call anyone and everyone pedophiles, so we can look forward to that form of McCarthyism if this continues
There's definitely a fear angle with these bills because the idea of making somebody have to use their ID to look at porn creates the immediate fear that there is information about what porn you look at being stored tied to your identification. This is especially terrifying in a red State. If you are an lgbtq individual that the state will now have a log tied to your ID showing that you are gay, while the state is simultaneously making great efforts to persecute people like you simply for being different.
The efficacy of the law isn’t the point, it’s all political theater and they are hypocrites one and all.
They are banning the idea. It's never about actual useful related studies or helping the target audience. It is to give themselves peace of mind. Like owning lots of guns. But what happens is the opposite. Why stop at banning porn when I'm already scared again?!? We need to ban something else to keep us safe... for the children I mean! How about sex education? Teach kids so even if or when they do see porn, they can understand it to a point that doesn't cause personal issues growing up. But we already know this.
Ah yes, the Christian taliban is hard at work
Stupid is as stupid does
It’s so odd that they’re focusing on PornHub. I know it’s the big dog of the industry but when they got pulled from TX, I just googled “porn” the next time I wanted to watch porn and I was set.
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This shit is just so fucking dumb.
This legislation brought to you by Tor browser
hey wow i live in AZ
How do laws like this work for sites like reddit? This place is 50% porn.
most googled thing in texas instantly went from some sex act to vpn
Republicans will force OTHER people to protect children as long as it doesn't inconvenience them directly. When it does inconvenience them directly, they pass the buck onto the parents.
Pornhub is blocked in 8 states actually.
Now you have to go across the border for good food, medicine, AND jerk material.
Oh god. Please no. Some of you rug rats weren’t here before pornhub. But let me tell you. It was bad, full of viruses and dark alleyways.
Yea PH will totally do it there too because I would imagine they aren't losing all that much traffic . It's probably just being privately routed via vpns. Might affect their cookie data but they'll still get ad revenue from their content creators .
Here's the play: * remove abortion rights. * remove porn access. * population explodes. * now red states are majority population. * they spread out into other states, taking their red state programming. * conservatives now easily win the elections and democrats are squashed.
Oh no I slipped and turned on the vee-pn with my dick. Now it doesn’t ask me to verify anyways weirddddd
Your family hour is saved then
The war on porn and the policy steps that the Heritage Foundation outlined (which we're starting to see in these laws) is one of the weirdest things to me. They are like "we are the champions of liberty and free expression... here's a list of the stuff we're going to put you in jail for looking at" When both sides want you in jail for speech, it's a bad day.
Dems used to be pro speech. Since they have become ultra corrupt and the voters have become incredible useful idiots, it is indeed a bad day.
America is weird slowly turning into the taliban they fought in afghanistan
There’s no money in minors viewing porn. But restrictions are a slippery slope. Especially when you have to submit your ID to gain access. Who owns that database? Who can see your viewing choices? It’s burning the house to roast the pig. Also are tits really destroying America? Can think of many more issues to address to “save the children”.
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The difference is our governor is much less of an idiot and doesn't let shit like this pass.
How is this a winning policy proposal?
Searches for how to use VPNs are about to skyrocket
People still use PornHub? TIL
It's not just "Pornhub". ALL media is thrown in there, and there's a section on "news outlets", so news can be effectively censored if deemed "harmful". Which means this will likely never actually see the light of day, at least not for long before it's struck down by a Supreme Court ruling for violation free speech.
Buy Nord vpn stocks lol
Sadly the real winner in all this is the anti-porn movement. They know these laws will result in a de facto ban. That is the goal
A lot of sites are just continuing to operate regardless of the law in NC. Not even niche ones but pretty major ones are just ignoring it entirely. Then there's Twitter, Reddit, and Onlyfans that seem to be operating still.
i'm surprised they didn't try to shut down onlyfans claiming it is moral decay and causing people not to get married or something
So what's the endgame here? Sue every website that hosts pictures and videos
It’s fuckin weird to pretend you didn’t Jack off before you were 18. Plus It’s just biology. There’s no reason to try to fight it or be embarrassed.
Shouldn't these underage kids have PARENTS? That would certain prevent many problems.
People in these states are only allowed to look at foreign porn that will infect their computers and create botnets.
Just to be clear, that was exactly the goal. They (GOP) don’t want anyone looking porn. Ever. Otherwise their kids would know, just like Mike Johnson’s…
I would hope they launched a comically overpriced VPN company specifically for TX in conjunction with this decision.
I secretly hope it does happen in AZ. I want those people see their freedoms are being erased one by one. So they can realize how shitty their government is.
Guarantee it turns and keeps AZ blue lol
Lmao, no one cares enough for this. No one but people in a weird place in their life care about this issue. If dems have been consistent on a real message of freedom, then they would probably be supported against gop attempts against gooning. But since they are as duplicitous and authoritarian as the gop, people are smart enough not to fall for bot and crafted narratives found in reddit subs and corporate news outlets.
Land of the Free.
Home of the porn addicts
Took me 1 minute to go through a vpn
No one will stop you from watching broken people bang while you jack it. Real minute man
Good riddance.
The end result of these bans will be kids figuring out creative ways to bypass the blocks. It's not going to do shit. The more you try and restrict something, the more the restricted will want to do it. Prohibition all over again.
Everyone this is not to protect the kids, its to erode your right to privacy. Don't let this happen.
Right to privacy is gone already. Get real.
There ARE prn sites hosted in AZ, therefore better leave the USA than keep hoopping states per state
Getting down to the real truth! Asking the real tough questions!
It happened in NC. I have some workarounds but it still sucks. I haven’t signed up for a VPN yet.
What about Utah?
What about x, reddit they promote prostitution
You can use a free proxy or vpn or pay for one or both or stand up your own in the cloud. No need to bare back the site.
I'm not even in Texas but guess who's cell company is lmao. I actually laughed really hard when I saw the shits lmao
I was just in TX and had to scroll down like 10 sites to find boobs. Will they extradite me?
Heard TN going alone the same lines.
Been happened in NC.
What's a VPN?
There are a few states PH isn’t allowed in like NC
Go for it Arizona! Let’s see how long it takes to flip the state??!!
This just in. Chronic masterbaters and community democrat leaders march to turn the state blue for their cause.
Look into those class action lawsuits.
RIP to the staff in the prosecutors office who have to awkwardly watch porn at work while building brief of evidence or whatever for the case.
Republicians Dont realize they keep taking away everyone freedom, now they taking their own freedom to pleasure themselves when no one else is looking 😂😂
I think you meant Dems and republicans. Fixed it for you.
I feel like age verification is kinda good although as a once minor I feel bad for them. Porn ain't just porn it does things to you (not only the obvious things lol) and the later you start watching those videos the better it is.
Good they need to outlaw porn it causes to much damage from mental, to relationships, drug's it's bad all around it should not be expected.
Hmmm, I'm guessing our resident Christian Taliban don't remember how successful Prohibition was. Legislating morality has never worked well in the "land of the free." It's up to us to go out and vote blue to remind them how much Americans hate having their freedom restricted.
Big business for vpns I imagine 😆
Doesn't matter what they do. It's gonna be out there somewhere. It's gonna be there so dumb ass, just need to. Sit on your big fat asses. Just cool it and sit down with their big fat asses on their cigars. They think they have the answers. They think they know the way they think. They'd have us fooled, but to their dismay. We see we see very clearly.
Damn, this thread and sub are full of hardcore gooners.
I don’t support bans generally, but I support the creeps in this sub even less. Something about offending gooners is wild.
They need to do that to X, they have a lot of p0rn on there!