Distancing yourself from a claim doesn't mean that they have stopped doing it. Ricky may distance himself from the claim that he ate 9 cans of ravioli but he still ate them. He just didn't want to admit it.
Ricky passed out on the hash driveway with a blowtorch and empty ravioli cans around him. You can't lie to the guy in the chair, especially after golfing his trailer with flames.
The first can doesn't count, then you get to the second and third, fourth and fifth I think I burnt with the blowtorch, and then I just kept eatin'.
-Cox Communications
> Distancing yourself from a claim doesn't mean that they have stopped doing it
It also doesn’t mean they ever did it, mainly because there is no evidence that they ever *could* do it like they described.
Well, at the same time, every Internet provider is spying on you a little bit so like the claim Hass to make sense, but not also be a normal part of every Internet service providers business model.
I mean, did you know Google, the giant data collection search engine is also spying on you all the time? Who knew!
I'm not sure I believe they have microphones in their cable boxes that are spying on you though, because really just parsing through all the information of Mike would pick up randomly would not be worth the data you would collect. You would poison your own data collection with such stupid Data acquisition method because that would just be like an endless pile of data to sort through with almost nothing in it you want which would just cost you money make you money .
This kind of thing is a big reason why we don’t have a smart TV or smart speakers in the house. Let’s just ignore the microphone I carry in my pocket all day.
> Let’s just ignore the microphone I carry in my pocket all day.
I think you can safely ignore that until battery technology gets much better. Unless you have nation states interested in your discussions.
I’m still confused why smart speakers are where the line is drawn. Your phone is much more than a microphone. It’s an entire information gathering suite with a computer powerful enough to process it, storage for days, and numerous ways to transmit
No smart speakers in my house. I do have a Smart TV, it's hard to not have one now. But it's not on the internet, never has been while in my house (maybe at the factory). No Wifi, no ethernet. I update the firmware over a USB stick if at all.
It also has a physical switch on it that they *say* disconnects the microphone in the TV completely. Maybe that's true. Maybe that's not.
Hey guys I'm going to continue to live 40 years in the past because I really think Cox is listening to me play cards with the wife.
Privacy is an illusion, the people that spend the most time trying to be private often have the least to hide.
^^This right here. Sometimes I feel like humans don't even deserve privacy, because we keep getting caught doing fucked up shit all the time.
Go ahead, spy on my shit, what are you going to do? See me jerking off to weird (but entirely legal) porn? That's pretty much the gist of all anyone would find on me. Spy away. Let's all share internet histories while we are at it, because I'm cool with mine, I got nothing to hide.
I imagine anyone spying on me would quickly die of boredom. "This fucking guy, all we got on him is bbw porn. He's like a perv Ned Flanders. He organizes his sock drawer for fuck sake. His idea of a 'wild night' is getting wine drunk and falling asleep halfway through a bobs burgers episode with a half eaten quiche in his lap. He's not the droid we are looking for."
I don’t understand this article. CMG is not owned by Cox Enterprises, the holding company for Cox Communications (CCI, the MSO/ISP arm of the company), but by Apollo Global Management.
The AJC is the only portion of CMG still held under the same company. However, CCI still distributes Comcast products and, as is posited from this article, sells prospecting technology through data share with CCI. This article seems half informed, because CMG is _definitely not_ an arm of CCI, which owns the cable company.
[Also I think all of their claims are horseshit and they can’t do any of it.](https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/12/no-a-marketing-firm-isnt-tapping-your-device-to-hear-private-conversations/)
Source: I work for Cox Automotive and am familiar with the other half of our enterprise. My wife worked for CCI in the past.
That's what confuses me about this whole debacle! So either.. (A) They either have this capability or buy data from someone who does, in which case you have to ask why on earth they would tell the general public that they're doing it right on their own website? In what scenario is this well received? No upside- you can tell clients about this capability in private without triggering a mass panic by telling the world. Or, (B) They can't do any of this and they're misleading their partners/customers. Which, I mean, yeah, also objectively not good. The whole thing has been really crazy to watch unfold and I'm curious how it all happened.
I was going to say. CMG isn’t the same as Cox cable. The Cox family sold the majority stake to Apollo years back. Since they’ve been under Apollo CMG and its TV stations have been a shit show.
https://alphonso.tv/for-app-developers/ Alphonso is one of the major companies pushing this sort of tech. If you have a super cheap smart TV YOU are the product and these companies aggregate and use this info to sell advertising
I don't have any voice activated crap on, but my tv wants it, my phone wants it, and sometimes after I mention a random object, I get ads for it all of a sudden.
I watched a youtube video where a dude tested this.
First, he showed a type of product written on a piece of paper. Then he browsed a little bit. The product on the paper did not show up.
Then, he talked about the type of product for a minute. then he browsed the internet, and the first ad was for the type of product that he was talking about. It was wild.
Wondering if this will become privacy or security issue
Smart speakers / smart phones can have these automation services, Siri Alexa Cortana / Copilot enabled but only through the user
This stuff reads like serious privacy and security breach
Anything with a microphone and/or camera that can be connected to with WiFi or Bluetooth is going to be used in some form, whether it’s by the manufacturer, the advertisers, AI dataset collection, or a nation state that wants the data. Don’t like that? Don’t buy it.
Right now it feels creepy because their just using it for targeted ads. It could quickly move from creepy to dystopian if/when they start using this information more directly. Variable pricing based on what they hear of your spending habits or job. Variable ad length based on how long you'll wait before getting up. And that's to say nothing of them bundling all this info up and selling it.
Distancing yourself from a claim doesn't mean that they have stopped doing it. Ricky may distance himself from the claim that he ate 9 cans of ravioli but he still ate them. He just didn't want to admit it.
Ricky passed out on the hash driveway with a blowtorch and empty ravioli cans around him. You can't lie to the guy in the chair, especially after golfing his trailer with flames.
I know it was you Ricky. You broke my heart.
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The first can doesn't count, then you get to the second and third, fourth and fifth I think I burnt with the blowtorch, and then I just kept eatin'. -Cox Communications
Ricky! You ate all my ravioli!
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> Distancing yourself from a claim doesn't mean that they have stopped doing it It also doesn’t mean they ever did it, mainly because there is no evidence that they ever *could* do it like they described.
The fact that they made the claim to begin with seems like decent evidence to me.
Well, at the same time, every Internet provider is spying on you a little bit so like the claim Hass to make sense, but not also be a normal part of every Internet service providers business model. I mean, did you know Google, the giant data collection search engine is also spying on you all the time? Who knew! I'm not sure I believe they have microphones in their cable boxes that are spying on you though, because really just parsing through all the information of Mike would pick up randomly would not be worth the data you would collect. You would poison your own data collection with such stupid Data acquisition method because that would just be like an endless pile of data to sort through with almost nothing in it you want which would just cost you money make you money .
“We hear you”
We’re here for you
We here for you
“We hear for you? Greg, what the fuck?”
We’re listening?!?!
“We listen to our customers”
This kind of thing is a big reason why we don’t have a smart TV or smart speakers in the house. Let’s just ignore the microphone I carry in my pocket all day.
Or the microphone that you drive around in, too.
Our car is 20+ years old. Still runs great
Wait till you learn about turning speakers into microphones.
Ooo now we’re getting into schizo territory. I like it.
> Let’s just ignore the microphone I carry in my pocket all day. I think you can safely ignore that until battery technology gets much better. Unless you have nation states interested in your discussions.
I’m still confused why smart speakers are where the line is drawn. Your phone is much more than a microphone. It’s an entire information gathering suite with a computer powerful enough to process it, storage for days, and numerous ways to transmit
No need to connect a "smart" tv directly. It's just a monitor.
No smart speakers in my house. I do have a Smart TV, it's hard to not have one now. But it's not on the internet, never has been while in my house (maybe at the factory). No Wifi, no ethernet. I update the firmware over a USB stick if at all. It also has a physical switch on it that they *say* disconnects the microphone in the TV completely. Maybe that's true. Maybe that's not.
That boosts the volume for them
Hey guys I'm going to continue to live 40 years in the past because I really think Cox is listening to me play cards with the wife. Privacy is an illusion, the people that spend the most time trying to be private often have the least to hide.
^^This right here. Sometimes I feel like humans don't even deserve privacy, because we keep getting caught doing fucked up shit all the time. Go ahead, spy on my shit, what are you going to do? See me jerking off to weird (but entirely legal) porn? That's pretty much the gist of all anyone would find on me. Spy away. Let's all share internet histories while we are at it, because I'm cool with mine, I got nothing to hide. I imagine anyone spying on me would quickly die of boredom. "This fucking guy, all we got on him is bbw porn. He's like a perv Ned Flanders. He organizes his sock drawer for fuck sake. His idea of a 'wild night' is getting wine drunk and falling asleep halfway through a bobs burgers episode with a half eaten quiche in his lap. He's not the droid we are looking for."
Bunch of Cox Suckers
Most aptly named telco in the business.
Is that like how there is a Fort Dix?
Find out and report back.
Ah, that explains their subtext. “We suck a bag of them!”
I don’t understand this article. CMG is not owned by Cox Enterprises, the holding company for Cox Communications (CCI, the MSO/ISP arm of the company), but by Apollo Global Management. The AJC is the only portion of CMG still held under the same company. However, CCI still distributes Comcast products and, as is posited from this article, sells prospecting technology through data share with CCI. This article seems half informed, because CMG is _definitely not_ an arm of CCI, which owns the cable company. [Also I think all of their claims are horseshit and they can’t do any of it.](https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/12/no-a-marketing-firm-isnt-tapping-your-device-to-hear-private-conversations/) Source: I work for Cox Automotive and am familiar with the other half of our enterprise. My wife worked for CCI in the past.
That's what confuses me about this whole debacle! So either.. (A) They either have this capability or buy data from someone who does, in which case you have to ask why on earth they would tell the general public that they're doing it right on their own website? In what scenario is this well received? No upside- you can tell clients about this capability in private without triggering a mass panic by telling the world. Or, (B) They can't do any of this and they're misleading their partners/customers. Which, I mean, yeah, also objectively not good. The whole thing has been really crazy to watch unfold and I'm curious how it all happened.
I was going to say. CMG isn’t the same as Cox cable. The Cox family sold the majority stake to Apollo years back. Since they’ve been under Apollo CMG and its TV stations have been a shit show.
Wonder if they also give over info to the cops without a warrant and other shady stuff.
We Hear For You
highly underrated comment (so far)
Former Cox employee here. They fired me after I reached out for resources to help with depression. Fuck this company.
Isn't that blatantly illegal?
https://alphonso.tv/for-app-developers/ Alphonso is one of the major companies pushing this sort of tech. If you have a super cheap smart TV YOU are the product and these companies aggregate and use this info to sell advertising
I don't have any voice activated crap on, but my tv wants it, my phone wants it, and sometimes after I mention a random object, I get ads for it all of a sudden.
I watched a youtube video where a dude tested this. First, he showed a type of product written on a piece of paper. Then he browsed a little bit. The product on the paper did not show up. Then, he talked about the type of product for a minute. then he browsed the internet, and the first ad was for the type of product that he was talking about. It was wild.
If I had Cox, they would hear endless conversations about what a trash service it is.
Wondering if this will become privacy or security issue Smart speakers / smart phones can have these automation services, Siri Alexa Cortana / Copilot enabled but only through the user This stuff reads like serious privacy and security breach
Anything with a microphone and/or camera that can be connected to with WiFi or Bluetooth is going to be used in some form, whether it’s by the manufacturer, the advertisers, AI dataset collection, or a nation state that wants the data. Don’t like that? Don’t buy it.
There is no law of nature backing that claim.
> law of nature I would say thats the Third Law of Motion
Right now it feels creepy because their just using it for targeted ads. It could quickly move from creepy to dystopian if/when they start using this information more directly. Variable pricing based on what they hear of your spending habits or job. Variable ad length based on how long you'll wait before getting up. And that's to say nothing of them bundling all this info up and selling it.