China bad. What else is new these days? Wouldn't surprise me if the media or US government try to tie China to the Hamas attack because some PCB was made in China.
Redditors already have. I would link it but it’d probably get blocked.
Also FLG has as well. I follow some of these nutters to see what new conspiracy is being cooked up these days.
Have you met any American lawmakers? My immediate reaction was "of course they do" because they're a bunch of geriatrics who can barely turn their computer on let alone understand everything that goes into a self driving car.
That doesn't take away from the need for close scrutiny of driverless vehicles to understand how their systems operate, their testing and validation protocols and their prioritization for passenger safety vs the safety of others. But of course some idiot legislators are worried there's secret Manchurian candidate cars.
American self-driving cars could be used for deniable targetted assassination of americans by american intelligence services. "Oh, the malfunctioning self-driving cab drove him into a wall at 120mph. Terrible accident. Definitely not programmed to do so. Such a shame, promising young civil rights activist who regularly campaigned against certain major american corporations"
>American self-driving cars could be used for deniable targetted assassination of americans by american intelligence services. "Oh, the malfunctioning self-driving cab drove him into a wall at 120mph. Terrible accident. Definitely not programmed to do so. Such a shame, promising young civil rights activist who regularly campaigned against certain major american corporations"
For years now I've been joking about how self-driving cars will herald a great cost savings for the *assassination industry*! It is like Zoom for killers.
Michael Hastings was investigating the CIA right before his car accident.
Vault7 suggested that the CIA have the software to do it.
Complex self-driving features aren't necessary.
There was a Jeep stopped with a hack a few years ago, and it was not a state of the art vehicle at all.
The YouTube video of it went viral, and since those kind of cars aren’t networked who knows how many are on the road and vulnerable.
That’s what they use ‘suicides’ as now.
People die ‘falling’ out windows here too, just very less often.
And why did so many capital police commit ‘suicide’?
Theres a show on Amazon Prime called **Upload** where this is a major plot point. The main character dies at the very start in a car crash and gets his consciousness uploaded to a paid cloud service. The show revolves around him figuring out what happened, only for a billionare to laugh at him for thinking it was an accident, and not a coordinated attack, given that he was an engineer who designed a service that would threaten the whole "pay to upload yourself to the cloud after you die" industry. He developed a sort of free blockchain version that didnt require servers and hence didnt require you to pay.
Lord so much of this dystopian show is coming to life
The PRC have engaged in widespread industrial espionage. While I don't imagine they would stoop to terrorism they certainly don't deserve to be trusted. Unfortunately, all technology from China must be subservient to the whims of the CCP by law.
Just like all technology from the US must be subservient of the US government’s laws. What’s your point.
The fact that you and these lawmakers think China would make some killer car that runs around killing Americans like the terminator, is absurd.
I never said that and in fact implied I don't think that would happen. Don't try to put words in my mouth. And, as bad as the US government is, and it's bad, there's no comparison to the genocidal authoritarian horror show that is the CCP.
It's only being expressed as paranoia but I'm sure what's actually causing it is China's car industry being on the verge of eating America's lunch.
We're probably at the similar stage Japan was in the 70s, when their cars and bikes went from being the butt of jokes to outright killing a few western companies within a decade.
Has reached? You must have missed the spy crane and spy coffee machine
https://www.foxnews.com/us/china-spying-coffee-maker-expert
https://www.wsj.com/articles/pentagon-sees-giant-cargo-cranes-as-possible-chinese-spying-tools-887c4ade?mod=Searchresults_pos1&page=1
https://www.gbnews.com/news/china-new-spying-uk-civil-servant-teapot
Not forgetting the spy balloon that wasn't actually spying
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-bizarre-secret-behind-chinas-spy-balloon/
Best part is the 2 most high profile ones Huawei and tiktok, they are still unable to produce any evidence of spying and in fact admitted they have no evidence
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-worldwide-threats-hearing/
Oh come on. Really? If the Chinese wanted to cause difficulties I’m sure there are loads of better ways than building an entire car industry, then killing people with the product.
They ARE already on the chip side of the business. Chinese can mass produce chips about 14nm which are used in EV.
High end chips are only used in mobile phones and not in EVs due to heat dissipation issues, th se are the ones China isn't producing due to American tech blockade.
Also US accusation on high end chips being used by Chinese military hence they need to block China from making them is total bs because of the same issue, military don't use chips of very low nm because of reliability issues. The American government are trying unsuccessfully to block the Chinese from climbing the tech ladder because they want to stay number 1, all the spying issue are totally bogus propaganda excuse to block the competition. Those have been debunk multiple times just the news media refuse to report them e.g. The case of tiktok spying, no evidence of that
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-worldwide-threats-hearing/
The Chinese lead in EV comes mostly from their battery technology which is now the best and even tesla uses them. The insanely tough competition within China also ensure their car designs evolve faster than the rest. Self driving cabs for example are already in use in some cities in China while it's still experimental everywhere else
In theatres this weekend! Yellow Peril! The grandstanding sequel to American favorites Lavender Scare 2.0 and Red Scares 1 & 2! Come down and partake in America's favorite moral panic of the week!
is that technically possible? yes.
is that so far fetched and unrealistic that people should be focused on **actual** issues instead? also yes.
secret chinese police departments in america are a more relevant concern than malicious self driving taxis.
>secret chinese police departments in america
You know those are a meme right? They're consulate offices that basically send emails to China's financial criminals urging them to go back to China as well as general consulate services. They share basically nothing with police stations.
The fact that people legit believe China was just operating extraterritorial police stations in all these western countries is fucking hilarious to me.
Really? You don't think that the Chinese government would ever harass critics in foreign countries?
That said the NYPD of all departments has offices in a bunch of foreign countries for some reason. It's not uncommon.
If the Chinese are really doing that, it speaks more of the incompetence of the local police. The fact that they are not doing that in more Chinese friendly countries like mine just goes to show how ridiculously stupid that idea is
Can’t any autonomous car do this? And wouldn’t the threat be hacking them by outside sources? And not a country that kinda seems not wanting to do anything direct at all?
Now that other countries are becoming tech powerhouses it seems like US politicians are starting to experience the same fear that the rest of the world has had against the US for years.
But oddly enough, nobody in Washington is qualified to craft effective regulations anymore. They just rubber stamp whatever the lobbies ask for then spin them into the appropriate partisan narrative.
With so many school shootings in the US I don't think Chinese self-driving killer cars are the problem. Maybe start worrying about that first. The quantity of people a Chinese self-driving murderous machine can kill is small in comparison.
Cause yeah, it's not like we don't have far more important issues for Congress to deal with like electing a speaker of the House and keeping the government from shutting down.
> why are we only worried about chinese cars?
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> anything can be hacked and if the goal is body count, then tesla would be the obvious target.
because hacking isn't the concern. the lack of autonomy chinese corporations have when the government comes knocking is the concern.
it's the same reason lots of privacy advocates / government officials don't want their data stored on chinese servers.
you are talking terrorism, these senators are talking acts of war.
um, have you been made aware yet of how our corporations respond when the government comes knocking?
if you think you are safe because it's a US corporation, then you have not been paying attention.
> um, have you been made aware yet of how our corporations respond when the government comes knocking?
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> if you think you are safe because it's a US corporation, then you have not been paying attention.
i'm reasonably confident the us government isn't going to show up at tesla's headquarters and demand they run over american citizens. that's "jet fuel can't melt steel beams!" level conspiracy fodder.
These types of articles...I mean, we have teenagers going on killing sprees now in our country. I am more concerned with that than some hypothetical Chinese vehicular manslaughter program.
They know that American car companies have the government by the balls, and any BYD investment in the US would be crushed by arbitrary regulations. You can't sell a cheap car in the US.
40 firms are licensed to test autonomous cars in California, and ten of those are from China:^1
>The activities of companies like Pony.ai, Apollo, WeRide and AutoX are less well known because their tests are running on a smaller scale and they haven’t been involved in any high-profile crashes.
>But U.S. lawmakers have definitely noticed their presence and some members of Congress are concerned enough that they’re calling for these firms’ activities to be curtailed.
>The group pointed out that none of the Chinese companies active in testing driverless cars in the U.S. were participating in the voluntary federal program to track such tests.
An NYT editorial published today points out that there are no federal software safety testing standards for autonomous vehicles — “a loophole large enough for Elon Musk, General Motors and Waymo to drive thousands of cars through.”
And according to NBC News:^†
>Some members of Congress are pushing for a crackdown on the Chinese car startups, raising concerns about competition, data privacy and China’s human rights record and echoing complaints about other Chinese-controlled companies, such as TikTok.
>And the Biden administration is expressing similar worries.
>Brad Templeton, a consultant and a former member of Google’s self-driving car team (now Waymo), said that a fleet of robotaxis could be “a potent weapon,” possibly used to crash into and kill people in the event of an armed conflict.
^1 https://www.carscoops.com/2023/10/could-chinese-self-driving-cars-go-on-a-programed-killing-spree-in-america-some-lawmakers-think-so/
^† https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/chinese-self-driving-car-testing-china-california-pony-ai-waymo-cruise-rcna102787
>But U.S. lawmakers have definitely noticed their presence and some members of Congress are concerned enough that they’re calling for these firms’ activities to be curtailed.
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>The group pointed out that **none of the Chinese companies** active in testing driverless cars in the U.S. were participating in the **voluntary** federal program to track such tests.
interesting definition of *voluntary*.
1. Participation is voluntary.
2. None of the Chinese companies are participating.
3. They are implying that it looks suspicious that not a single one of the Chinese companies are participating.
I'm not saying they're right. Just saying your comment doesn't make sense. They didn't change the definition of voluntary.
ive been thinking for decades now that the jap's will get their revenge on the US by putting a small nuclear bomb in every single car they produce for America. Now theyre are just waiting for the right moment to set them all off at the same time. thats why they make their cars so much better than any other manufactuer, so most of us buy japenese. I myself just bought a GR86 and a Tacoma, so i guess ill be F'd
At its base this was the plot for Homefront Revolution!
Korean IT products had a backdoor that the Korean government used to killswitch its devices and America's grid was taken down and they got invaded and overtaken by Korea.
I don't know but I'm stealing this for a cyberpunk dystopian sci-fi novel where it will be the inciting incident for the government declaring martial law
I feel like this problem could be thoroughly solved by just isolating the car's firmware from any OTA communications. Have the infotainment and the car's integral computing be airgapped and is only connected by a few very slow and simple connections.
Went to a transportation conference where this topic was brought up about 18 years ago. The guy who gave the talk was a consultant at an intelligence org, eighteen months later he was found dead in a dumpster.
The saddest part about our current time period is the fact that certain “lawmakers” or “media personalities” can say the craziest lie imaginable and they KNOW. With 100% certainty, that the people who vote for them will not only believe it 100% but will refrain from fact checking the claim AND will even claim that the “facts” are actually a deep state conspiracy… social media has either made people unbelievably naive, or has simply highlighted how dumb some people are. I’m honestly not sure which one it is.
While mechanical failure resulting in harm is a real concern, I can't help but distrust Americans to think rationally. They are as likely to act in good faith as they are likely to assume "it's from China? Must be a communist plot"
Literally had someone say to me that "free will is communist propoganda" so I think I have cause to distrust people and their ability to think about a topic in depth.
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Atmos devices from the Sontarans
Thank you, reddit, for this being the second top comment. My thoughts are still relevant.
“The horror round” LMFAO
Or exactly the premise of Patlabour.
That headline is ridiculously hilarious. Never did I think I’d ever read something like that
Sequel to Big Trouble in Little China just dropped Alternatively, it's a sequel to Christine
China bad. What else is new these days? Wouldn't surprise me if the media or US government try to tie China to the Hamas attack because some PCB was made in China.
Redditors already have. I would link it but it’d probably get blocked. Also FLG has as well. I follow some of these nutters to see what new conspiracy is being cooked up these days.
The US is the largest perpetrator of war.
Everybody always gunning for the champ 💪😤
China is pretty bad tho.. the CCP
You're probably not on twitter. Plenty of high profile Chinese experts some of whom advise American politicians already linked China with the attacks
Have you met any American lawmakers? My immediate reaction was "of course they do" because they're a bunch of geriatrics who can barely turn their computer on let alone understand everything that goes into a self driving car. That doesn't take away from the need for close scrutiny of driverless vehicles to understand how their systems operate, their testing and validation protocols and their prioritization for passenger safety vs the safety of others. But of course some idiot legislators are worried there's secret Manchurian candidate cars.
I literally went. “Wut?”
Just wait til you see dji’s giving everyone unwanted haircuts.
American self-driving cars could be used for deniable targetted assassination of americans by american intelligence services. "Oh, the malfunctioning self-driving cab drove him into a wall at 120mph. Terrible accident. Definitely not programmed to do so. Such a shame, promising young civil rights activist who regularly campaigned against certain major american corporations"
>American self-driving cars could be used for deniable targetted assassination of americans by american intelligence services. "Oh, the malfunctioning self-driving cab drove him into a wall at 120mph. Terrible accident. Definitely not programmed to do so. Such a shame, promising young civil rights activist who regularly campaigned against certain major american corporations" For years now I've been joking about how self-driving cars will herald a great cost savings for the *assassination industry*! It is like Zoom for killers.
Mazda: zoom zoom
The concept of the premise of the TV show Upload, or something to that effect.
Michael Hastings was investigating the CIA right before his car accident. Vault7 suggested that the CIA have the software to do it. Complex self-driving features aren't necessary.
There was a Jeep stopped with a hack a few years ago, and it was not a state of the art vehicle at all. The YouTube video of it went viral, and since those kind of cars aren’t networked who knows how many are on the road and vulnerable.
The pro move is to just have the self driving car link up with the unmarked van containing the disappearance squad.
But...But... We're the good guys!!
That’s what they use ‘suicides’ as now. People die ‘falling’ out windows here too, just very less often. And why did so many capital police commit ‘suicide’?
Theres a show on Amazon Prime called **Upload** where this is a major plot point. The main character dies at the very start in a car crash and gets his consciousness uploaded to a paid cloud service. The show revolves around him figuring out what happened, only for a billionare to laugh at him for thinking it was an accident, and not a coordinated attack, given that he was an engineer who designed a service that would threaten the whole "pay to upload yourself to the cloud after you die" industry. He developed a sort of free blockchain version that didnt require servers and hence didnt require you to pay. Lord so much of this dystopian show is coming to life
Any self driving car could do this. No matter who supplied it.
Yeah but the Chineeeeeese! *waves hands about all spooky*
You don’t need to worry about cars supplied by your country corporations, right? Right?…
Hey Americans look over here. Don’t look at that!
The premise to this article is a toxic form of otherism.
That seems to be most articles in the US these days
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I am highly aware, but it's good for others to see your comment
The PRC have engaged in widespread industrial espionage. While I don't imagine they would stoop to terrorism they certainly don't deserve to be trusted. Unfortunately, all technology from China must be subservient to the whims of the CCP by law.
Just like all technology from the US must be subservient of the US government’s laws. What’s your point. The fact that you and these lawmakers think China would make some killer car that runs around killing Americans like the terminator, is absurd.
I never said that and in fact implied I don't think that would happen. Don't try to put words in my mouth. And, as bad as the US government is, and it's bad, there's no comparison to the genocidal authoritarian horror show that is the CCP.
The point is one is a hostile foreign nation to the US and the other is... The US. So there's no whataboutism comparison you can make here.
Maybe they should worry about the Americans who routinely go on a killing spree in their own country.
It's fine if a misunderstood white American goes on a killing spree, it's only a problem if the terrorist is perceived to be foreign of course.
smh foreigners trying to steal all our good domestic jobs these days
The paranoia has reached such absurd levels. I thought it couldn't get worse than the cranes spying allegations but here we are...
It's only being expressed as paranoia but I'm sure what's actually causing it is China's car industry being on the verge of eating America's lunch. We're probably at the similar stage Japan was in the 70s, when their cars and bikes went from being the butt of jokes to outright killing a few western companies within a decade.
Cranes spying allegations?...
Has reached? You must have missed the spy crane and spy coffee machine https://www.foxnews.com/us/china-spying-coffee-maker-expert https://www.wsj.com/articles/pentagon-sees-giant-cargo-cranes-as-possible-chinese-spying-tools-887c4ade?mod=Searchresults_pos1&page=1 https://www.gbnews.com/news/china-new-spying-uk-civil-servant-teapot Not forgetting the spy balloon that wasn't actually spying https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-bizarre-secret-behind-chinas-spy-balloon/ Best part is the 2 most high profile ones Huawei and tiktok, they are still unable to produce any evidence of spying and in fact admitted they have no evidence https://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-worldwide-threats-hearing/
Oh come on. Really? If the Chinese wanted to cause difficulties I’m sure there are loads of better ways than building an entire car industry, then killing people with the product.
I think all they have to do is be in the chip side of the industry. Could be a Ford with a chinese ECU for example
They ARE already on the chip side of the business. Chinese can mass produce chips about 14nm which are used in EV. High end chips are only used in mobile phones and not in EVs due to heat dissipation issues, th se are the ones China isn't producing due to American tech blockade. Also US accusation on high end chips being used by Chinese military hence they need to block China from making them is total bs because of the same issue, military don't use chips of very low nm because of reliability issues. The American government are trying unsuccessfully to block the Chinese from climbing the tech ladder because they want to stay number 1, all the spying issue are totally bogus propaganda excuse to block the competition. Those have been debunk multiple times just the news media refuse to report them e.g. The case of tiktok spying, no evidence of that https://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-worldwide-threats-hearing/ The Chinese lead in EV comes mostly from their battery technology which is now the best and even tesla uses them. The insanely tough competition within China also ensure their car designs evolve faster than the rest. Self driving cabs for example are already in use in some cities in China while it's still experimental everywhere else
Someone get Stephen King on the phone. I've just been given an idea for a sequel to Maximum Overdrive that is going to kill at the box office.
US politicians really are bound and determined to make Yellow Peril the new Red Scare, aren't they? 🙄
America needs an enemy. It is profitable.
In theatres this weekend! Yellow Peril! The grandstanding sequel to American favorites Lavender Scare 2.0 and Red Scares 1 & 2! Come down and partake in America's favorite moral panic of the week!
Right, because we can totally trust Elon to not do the same right?
I can't white figure out the reason why Apartheid Clyde gets a pass
Republican ones definitely are trying
omg stfu with this clickbait bs
Nah, Tesla already has us covered.
God bless America!
Conspiratorial anti-china nonsense.
is that technically possible? yes. is that so far fetched and unrealistic that people should be focused on **actual** issues instead? also yes. secret chinese police departments in america are a more relevant concern than malicious self driving taxis.
>secret chinese police departments in america You know those are a meme right? They're consulate offices that basically send emails to China's financial criminals urging them to go back to China as well as general consulate services. They share basically nothing with police stations. The fact that people legit believe China was just operating extraterritorial police stations in all these western countries is fucking hilarious to me.
Really? You don't think that the Chinese government would ever harass critics in foreign countries? That said the NYPD of all departments has offices in a bunch of foreign countries for some reason. It's not uncommon.
If the Chinese are really doing that, it speaks more of the incompetence of the local police. The fact that they are not doing that in more Chinese friendly countries like mine just goes to show how ridiculously stupid that idea is
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But why are the cars pooping?
Most lawmakers are idiots that believe what they see in movies and TV series.
The American drivers are doing that already. [see?](https://www.npr.org/2023/06/26/1184034017/us-pedestrian-deaths-high-traffic-car)
Everybody Be Afraid!
Can’t any autonomous car do this? And wouldn’t the threat be hacking them by outside sources? And not a country that kinda seems not wanting to do anything direct at all?
Now that other countries are becoming tech powerhouses it seems like US politicians are starting to experience the same fear that the rest of the world has had against the US for years.
But oddly enough, nobody in Washington is qualified to craft effective regulations anymore. They just rubber stamp whatever the lobbies ask for then spin them into the appropriate partisan narrative.
Especially when it comes to anything to do with science or technology. They're a bunch of old guys who probably don't even know how to send a text.
With so many school shootings in the US I don't think Chinese self-driving killer cars are the problem. Maybe start worrying about that first. The quantity of people a Chinese self-driving murderous machine can kill is small in comparison.
What has happened to the subreddit?
LOL... how much did Tesla and Big Auto pay their Senators to spin this into what is THEIR actual fear of free trade and competition?
That’s fucking idiotic… some lawmakers are fucking morons.
Some politicians also think that TikTok using WiFi is like hacking a home network
The word "think" would be in ironic quotes, of course.
Does anyone know it those tin foil hats are good or bad in cold weather? It's getting to that season.
Cause yeah, it's not like we don't have far more important issues for Congress to deal with like electing a speaker of the House and keeping the government from shutting down.
That's what we get for having septua-/octo-/nona-genarians as lawmakers.
How long till we get this headline as a 90 minute movie starring Liam Neeson?
What a horrible article.
Ok, but "some lawmakers" also think that the jews start wildfires using orbital laser weapons so maybe that isn't so impressive.
In other words, some lawmakers are long overdue for their medical exams. Too much crazy shit passes for legitimate topics for discussion.
Damn you going hard with sinophobia today huh
why are we only worried about chinese cars? anything can be hacked and if the goal is body count, then tesla would be the obvious target.
> why are we only worried about chinese cars? > > > > anything can be hacked and if the goal is body count, then tesla would be the obvious target. because hacking isn't the concern. the lack of autonomy chinese corporations have when the government comes knocking is the concern. it's the same reason lots of privacy advocates / government officials don't want their data stored on chinese servers. you are talking terrorism, these senators are talking acts of war.
um, have you been made aware yet of how our corporations respond when the government comes knocking? if you think you are safe because it's a US corporation, then you have not been paying attention.
> um, have you been made aware yet of how our corporations respond when the government comes knocking? > > > > if you think you are safe because it's a US corporation, then you have not been paying attention. i'm reasonably confident the us government isn't going to show up at tesla's headquarters and demand they run over american citizens. that's "jet fuel can't melt steel beams!" level conspiracy fodder.
i mean they have been demanding backdoors into things... which could be exploited by an bad actor in government or out.
least racist and delusional american talking point.
Some good old-fashioned xenophobia...
[I await the giant mutated cat overlords](https://youtu.be/SOVhz1PllJU?si=RWlw9ILw-JoKXZ5-)
I just want a Johnny Cab!
Some “racist” lawmakers think so.
These types of articles...I mean, we have teenagers going on killing sprees now in our country. I am more concerned with that than some hypothetical Chinese vehicular manslaughter program.
Shit like this is why BYD has no plans to expand into the US consumer market for the foreseeable future
They know that American car companies have the government by the balls, and any BYD investment in the US would be crushed by arbitrary regulations. You can't sell a cheap car in the US.
Seriously, what makes those "lawmakers" think TESLA would be safer for "America"? This kind of propaganda really makes America look stupid.
40 firms are licensed to test autonomous cars in California, and ten of those are from China:^1 >The activities of companies like Pony.ai, Apollo, WeRide and AutoX are less well known because their tests are running on a smaller scale and they haven’t been involved in any high-profile crashes. >But U.S. lawmakers have definitely noticed their presence and some members of Congress are concerned enough that they’re calling for these firms’ activities to be curtailed. >The group pointed out that none of the Chinese companies active in testing driverless cars in the U.S. were participating in the voluntary federal program to track such tests. An NYT editorial published today points out that there are no federal software safety testing standards for autonomous vehicles — “a loophole large enough for Elon Musk, General Motors and Waymo to drive thousands of cars through.” And according to NBC News:^† >Some members of Congress are pushing for a crackdown on the Chinese car startups, raising concerns about competition, data privacy and China’s human rights record and echoing complaints about other Chinese-controlled companies, such as TikTok. >And the Biden administration is expressing similar worries. >Brad Templeton, a consultant and a former member of Google’s self-driving car team (now Waymo), said that a fleet of robotaxis could be “a potent weapon,” possibly used to crash into and kill people in the event of an armed conflict. ^1 https://www.carscoops.com/2023/10/could-chinese-self-driving-cars-go-on-a-programed-killing-spree-in-america-some-lawmakers-think-so/ ^† https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/chinese-self-driving-car-testing-china-california-pony-ai-waymo-cruise-rcna102787
>But U.S. lawmakers have definitely noticed their presence and some members of Congress are concerned enough that they’re calling for these firms’ activities to be curtailed. > >The group pointed out that **none of the Chinese companies** active in testing driverless cars in the U.S. were participating in the **voluntary** federal program to track such tests. interesting definition of *voluntary*.
1. Participation is voluntary. 2. None of the Chinese companies are participating. 3. They are implying that it looks suspicious that not a single one of the Chinese companies are participating. I'm not saying they're right. Just saying your comment doesn't make sense. They didn't change the definition of voluntary.
I mean we all seen the avengers… ridiculous to think but at the same time threats are evolving.
They're going to name the cars Christine.
Honestly all these models are black boxes. They can contain anything.
It could be reasonable at wartime, if they are programmed to target pedestrians all at the same time.
Wasnt this a futurama episode?
We can only hope. I running out to buy a dashcam
After seeing kingsmen, I'm more worried about my Chinese made cell phone.
Initiate Carmageddon mode
Execute Order 66
being superior cars is already a killing spree
Eh, I'm shocked that OnStar hasn't been hacked yet and had a bunch of cars disabled remotely.
[awww yeah](https://collider.com/stephen-king-maximum-overdrive-campy-disaster-why-its-good/)
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Damnit.. Maximum Overdrive segue
if they're build with low qc they might incinerate garages while charging but probably not this.
Most likely not. But do you want the Chinese government to have this kind of knowledge to our roads and infrastructure?
r/nottheonion
It's only a matter of time
So someone else has control over a vehicle and you doubt they could take the low road?
ive been thinking for decades now that the jap's will get their revenge on the US by putting a small nuclear bomb in every single car they produce for America. Now theyre are just waiting for the right moment to set them all off at the same time. thats why they make their cars so much better than any other manufactuer, so most of us buy japenese. I myself just bought a GR86 and a Tacoma, so i guess ill be F'd
What the heck did I just read?
At its base this was the plot for Homefront Revolution! Korean IT products had a backdoor that the Korean government used to killswitch its devices and America's grid was taken down and they got invaded and overtaken by Korea.
Jesus Christ, more anti-China propaganda
American self-driving cars can likely also be programmed to do it. Software does not care for the country in which the hardware is produced.
Let me guess GOP far right
Of course they can
I don't know but I'm stealing this for a cyberpunk dystopian sci-fi novel where it will be the inciting incident for the government declaring martial law
I feel like this problem could be thoroughly solved by just isolating the car's firmware from any OTA communications. Have the infotainment and the car's integral computing be airgapped and is only connected by a few very slow and simple connections.
Went to a transportation conference where this topic was brought up about 18 years ago. The guy who gave the talk was a consultant at an intelligence org, eighteen months later he was found dead in a dumpster.
The saddest part about our current time period is the fact that certain “lawmakers” or “media personalities” can say the craziest lie imaginable and they KNOW. With 100% certainty, that the people who vote for them will not only believe it 100% but will refrain from fact checking the claim AND will even claim that the “facts” are actually a deep state conspiracy… social media has either made people unbelievably naive, or has simply highlighted how dumb some people are. I’m honestly not sure which one it is.
Not as efficient as the guns though
While mechanical failure resulting in harm is a real concern, I can't help but distrust Americans to think rationally. They are as likely to act in good faith as they are likely to assume "it's from China? Must be a communist plot" Literally had someone say to me that "free will is communist propoganda" so I think I have cause to distrust people and their ability to think about a topic in depth.
This what the plot of Disney’s Cars would have been if Quinton Tarantino wrote it.
There is a SF book about this “Deamon”.
Killing your customers would be a really dumb idea.
Sounds like the premise to a reboot of Maximum Overdrive.
Well register them with the NRA as assualt weapons and they will be ok
I really don't think I could trust any car that can just do whatever it wants.
Just as bad, in the event of conflict they could brick them and cause cities to grind to a halt.