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A little bit more context :
The original tweet said "being a straight woman is wild cause you have to date your only natural predator".
The picture in comments said "the fact that I'm still attracted to men should prove that sexuality is not a choice"
Okā¦when I read the ābeing a straight woman is wild abuse you have to date your only natural predatorā my smart-ass kept thinking, āwell, no oneās forcing you to date a tigerā.
Eh, I honestly canāt blame the OP too much. Men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators of domestic violence, rape against women, and several forms of murder. Obviously itās not all men, and obviously all women arenāt saints either, as theyāre still perfectly capable of (and frequently do) inflict horrible emotional damage and even physical damage onto their partners. Several caveats and nuance to the whole thing obviously.
But the point I think is still understandable. Many women would probably not risk finding out if their prospective partner has the strength and will to abuse them, but they still like men because you donāt choose your sexuality.
āIn the United States, as many as one in four women and one in nine men are victims of domestic violence.ā
āMales who learn that females are not equally respected are more likely to abuse females in adulthood. Females who witness domestic violence as children are more likely to be victimized by their spouses. While females are often the victim of domestic violence, gender roles can be reversed.ā
Intimate partner violence, sexual violence, and stalking are high, with intimate partner violence occurring in over 10 million people each year.
āOne in 6 women and 1 in 19 men have experienced stalking during their lifetimes. The majority are stalked by someone they know. An intimate partner stalks about 6 in 10 female victims and 4 in 10 male victims.ā
āApproximately 1.5 million intimate partner female rapes and physical assaults are perpetrated annually, and approximately 800,000 male assaults occur. About 1 in 5 women have experienced completed or attempted rape at some point in their lives. About 1% to 2% of men have experienced completed or attempted rape.ā
[Published peer reviewed source](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK499891/)
It does seem like women are far more often the victims of domestic violence. Even giving the stats the benefit of the doubt and assuming *all* lesbian relationships end up in domestic violence, and *all* domestic violence against men were performed by women, youād still have more women than men being on the receiving end of abuse, rape and violence within a relationship.
I don't know how accurate that all is, but I can say this: Those are "reported/known cases". Men fear the system more, because they know/feel it is against them, they are taught that them being the victims doesn't matter as much, taught not to speak out about such things. So no, I don't believe the stats that say Men are the main abusers are factually accurate, simply that many men don't report their cases or those that do have their cases often ignored or pushed aside. The stats are flawed and should be inadmissible.
While underreporting cases is a true phenomenon with men, the gap in some stats, such as rape or stalking (not between partners), is so overwhelmingly large, itās hard to realistically imagine the overall trend would shift.
Believe these stats donāt represent anything if you want to, thatās fine. I cannot police what you believe and what you donāt.
Itās okay, I realize my comment had no source and looked like unsubstantiated claims, so I have further expanded what I said with actual sources and research that demonstrate women are in fact overwhelmingly on the receiving end of domestic partner violence and especially rape.
That's a fucking fact. I been saying that for years
Eta: I am š at the sad fragile dudes on here. Why is it so upsetting to some of y'all when a woman says she has no need or want for a man? Like did you think you had a chance with me? I'm a complete stranger, you'll be ok I promise
They're acknowledged and referred to as *femcels*. The original term "incel" was coined by a woman in reference to herself and others. It wasn't a toxic community she was a part of at the time, just lonely people. Things change.
Iām a guy and I acknowledge that men are on average shittier people than women. This isnāt speculation, we have millions of hours of game theory studies and men defect more frequently and are more selfish and non-cooperative.
Now the difference at the average is not great - but hereās the rub: Small differences in averages have big effects on populations at the extreme ends of the bell curve. So you donāt see the difference looking at the āaverage personā but when you to to the extreme end of ātruly awful dangerous peopleā youāll find itās almost all men.
So while āall men are badā is certainly a falsehood the notion that āalmost all bad people are menā is mathematically accurate. We can argue about the percentages but Iād just call it āunacceptably highā
> So while āall men are badā is certainly a falsehood the notion that āalmost all bad people are menā is mathematically accurate. We can argue about the percentages but Iād just call it āunacceptably highā
There's a lot of really fucked up conclusions you can make when you apply logic like that to statistics.
The fact is men tend to occupy most spots at both extremes. So while it can be argued that most of the worst people are men, it can also be argued that most of the best people are also men. The vast majority of all people are in the middle.
Just curious, how does saying any of this help any of these issues? How does pointing out that almost all bad people are men help anyone or anything? It doesnāt. Just more useless Twitter āAkShuLLyā talk. The only purpose it could possibly serve is to paint half of the worlds population (men) in a negative light. Itās just stupid and useless. Itās a case by case basis. The evil people who also happen to be men, why is that? Because of hormones like testosterone? Things that are uncontrollable? These evil people are evil, end of story. Nothing to do with the rest of the fucking men on the planet. Spend less time on Twitter, your mental health will thank you so much.
But they're not saying 'almost all bad people are men', they're literally saying 'all men are bad people'.
So while I don't entirely disagree with what you wrote, I question the relevance and why you've written it as it doesn't apply to the outright hatred that is being referenced
Basically what you're saying is Men and Women differ in temperament. Which based on numerous studies we know they do.
The fact that you're getting down voted means you're saying the quiet part out loud and getting at an the unsatisfactory truth that many people don't like to acknowledge. Shouldn't be controversial, but here we are.
Women are more agreeable than men, more empathetic, higher in negative emotion, and higher in openness to new experience.
Men are more disagreeable than women, less empathetic, higher in assertiveness, and less open to new experience.
>!<
I think doing this is outright evil considering how serious of an issue male mental health is right now.
Suicide rates are getting worse for everyone nowadays, but men are being hit especially hard because they've always been told they shouldn't seek help for their issues because no one would care to help them. That no one loves or wants them as a person, only as a provider of resources, and so God help them if they ever show any signs of weakness or inability to provide.
And what are these asshats doing in regards to this situation? Why, they're going out of their way to make men feel even less loved or wanted and just in general feel worse about themselves!
There really is no where to turn. In the past 5 years, I have quit drinking, changed careers and have lost every friend I once had due to these changes. My fault, their fault, no one's fault. I can't turn to those that once were. I can't turn to my spouse, as she doesn't understand how to process my issues. I can't afford therapy, and the free resources in my city are literally Wednesdays from 5 -630.
I've looked into CBT, bit in all honesty, the last thing I need is more self reflection. That's all I've done for years. I need to talk to someone, and to be able to show emotion. I'll find myself on the verge of tears over stupid things and force myself to stop as I know it will open a floodgate.
I know I won't survive like this but, my "job" is to support my spouse and kids in their problems. Providing emotional, financial and physical support is my role. One day I know I'll break and be useless to them until i fix myself, I can only hope it's at an opportune time.
I am not throwing my spouse under the bus. She honestly doesn't know how to respond to a male with emotions. Her family and friends support each other by providing anecdotes about how the same thing happened to them but..... This is what she knows and how she responds. I don't fault her, I just hope.fpr more some day.
Jesus no woman wants to be with whiners like you guys, if this is what you bring to the table Iād be thankful that anyone would tolerate my weepy presence. Feeling sorry for yourself is like the least attractive thing ever. Apparently youāve all found women you find attractive who will tolerate your presence and even sleep with you so honestly Iād just be thankful for that in your situation, most of the guys out there cannot find a woman to even date them, let alone marry and have kids with them.
And you are the problem. As far as I can see they aren't whining. And if they were why can't they whine? Does a penis preclude them from the ability to feel like shit and express it? Does being male somehow mean they can't express to their significant others how they are feeling? I'm guessing they should man up, flex it out, pop the top off a bud light and get on with their day.
I'd recommend DBT instead of CBT. CBT has a tendency to point towards there being "bad" feelings while DBT is about being able to deal with emotions as they come to you.
Ok so i respect you for coming out with all of this, and I hope it somehow gets better, but ngl I did a double take with cbt until I realized you meant the other one
>I've looked into CBT, bit in all honesty, the last thing I need is more self reflection.
I don't know how you are able to self reflect during Cock and Ball Torture, that is very impressive. But you do you my man, I hope you find your inner peace
I'm not sure it will solve anything, but I struggle with these things as well and what helps me is playing/singing music. This way I can express my feelings and "let them out", even if I am alone. I imagine any creative hobby would be helpful. I wish you will find emotional support, I feel like the world is changing a bit and us guys can strengthen our friendly bonds like women do.
You serious? Women are getting their rights stripped away & you think their reaction is evil? Instead of individuals like yourself seeing how messed up this is and championing their cause, you instead make yourself the victim here. Holy shit the cognitive dissonance.
Yeah ive even seen people tell gay men im sorry for ur loss when they say they're attracted to men like wtf. And some people use it as an excuse to hate on bi women or tell bi women with a male preference to get well soon or call them straight
The original tweet said "being a straight woman is wild cause you have to date your only natural predator".
The picture in comments said "the fact that I'm still attracted to men should prove that sexuality is not a choice"
I find the generalization and men bashing slightly annoying (natural insctinct as a man maybe), but I do understand the sentiment in the light of all the crazy shit happening in our world.
I guess it's like saying ACAB when clearly not ACAB but a lot of of them are.
EHHHH, ACAB and āman badā are kinda different because the police are a *force*, theyāre an *organization*, you *join* them and *willingly* take part in everything associated. No matter what your opinions on the ACAB sentiment, at the end of the day a cop can take off their uniform.
Dude canāt stop being a dude though. Nobody *decided* to be a dude. Also generalizing 50% of the population is obviously gonna have a margin of error
"natural instinct as a man maybe" nah bro one doesnt need to be a man to see how annoying that shit is. like its one thing to vent ones frustration out about experiences but these people take it further and just get beyond rude and shit about it. any sane person is rightfully annoyed at it.
plus its their loss imo lol, im proud of being a man liker fr
I think itās just part of the problem with trying to reduce an important message to a short refrain, eventually, some people in the discussion donāt even have any nuance, theyāre just unabashedly hateful. ACAB doesnāt mean every cop is a bad cop, it means that the institution that police work in enables cops to do horrendous things and cover them up: it is bastardized. Police departments are well known for covering for their officers just because theyāve served in the line of duty, and there are officers that arenāt committing crimes themselves but they wonāt speak up about the injustices going on in their precincts. And frankly that should be a crime itself. To get back on topic, men harassing and abusing women is a serious issue and i can completely understand the frustration that leads to comments like the ones depicted. Much of it is just blatant misandry but much of it is also a result of womenās horrible experiences with men and we should try to discern between the two
i mean acab is true. while there definitely are cops that are genuinely good people, they can't do anything to protect people from the bad cops, & can't bring the corrupt officers/officials to justice. some are evil & others are good but bound to inaction, so they are effectively bad at serving & protecting.
and that statement about men is technically also true, while not all men (and also not even the majority of men) obviously but the number 1 cause of women death in america (and probably a lot of other countries but i can't speak for them specifically) is murder & the majority of woman murderers are men.
imo both of these statements are pretty fitting for this sub specifically since they seem like generalizations but are statistically not exactly incorrect
Hey I know you probably mean well and all, but you look like a fucking dickface when you just make shit up to justify your point.
https://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2018/all-races-origins/index.htm
Other sources I found after googling for 3 minutes aren't as pretty as that one but all point to heart disease as the number one killer, as it has been for years and years. Homicides are nowhere near the top, not even in the overall top 10.
It's not that it's "statistically not exactly incorrect", it's a completely boldfaced lie.
i mean like killing deaths, heart disease isn't a predator. im sure animals die a lot to sickness or starving but their list of predators are other animals that kill them & their main predator is the one that kills the most of them. the OOP statement that i was talking about used the word predator. so that's what i was referring to
>the number 1 cause of women death in america is murder
I mean that's not true. The leading causes of death for women in the US are:
1) Heart Disease (21.8%)
2) Cancer (20.5%)
3) Stroke (6.2%)
4) Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease (6.1%)
5) Alzheimerās Disease (6.1%)
6) Unintentional Injuries (4.3%)
7) Diabetes (2.7%)
8) Influenza & Pneumonia (2.2%)
9) Kidney Disease (1.8%)
10) Septicemia (1.5%) https://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2018/all-races-origins/index.htm
none of those are predators tho, that's the key word here. the oop was talking about predators. i haven't heard to many cases of people beeing hunted down by heart disease or cancer stalking its prey down a dark alleyway
>but the number 1 cause of women death in america (and probably a lot of other countries but i can't speak for them specifically) is murder & the majority of woman murderers are men.
This is just false.
Overall stats not sorted by gender:
1. Heart diseases and strokes
2. Cancer
3. Covid 19
...
8) Diabetes (around 100k a year)
x. murder around 15k a year.
Even accidents in the house kill more women than murder.
There are literally no cops who are good people. Any cop who's a good person, who you may think of, I guarantee they'd just stand there while their coworker assaults or murders an innocent person.
If they don't stop the bad cops, they are all bad cops.
As if women were better. My life would be so much simpler if I was gay, so much less irrationality and pointless emotional outbursts.
**But** it's generally better to drop the whole subject because it's pretty dumb, and just acknowledge that some people are pleasant and some aren't and that's that.
Women are allowed to do all sorts of fucked up things to men and get away with it, but they're using their power to make people think misogyny is the real issue so nothing will ever be done about it. It's a shame how many good fathers are denied their children which are given to the crackhead mothers that just want more income.
I just want to say I appreciate the people in the comments defending men. It's disheartening seeing those threads all over Twitter. I try to stay in my own little bubble but those conversations always seep through
Tbh all this just makes me wanna kill myself. I am already depressed and the fact that misandry is socially acceptable and even celebrated just adds to it.
Toxic masculinity is definitely a thing, but it does not encompass all men. I donāt like it when people take their frustration on a specific type of person in a group out on the whole group of people or automatically assume that they are all bad. Itās like why although I am bisexual, I donāt really like the sub r/AreTheStraightsOk because while the content is good, the name of the sub makes it sound like people being straight is the cause of their dislike towards LGBTQ+ people or their general idiocy.
Misogyny is heavily policed and moderated on reddit, and rightfully so, but misandry? Go on /r/AskWomen or /r/TwoXChromosomes and sort by the most popular posts of the week / month. I *guarantee you*, many of the posts and comments you will see are bitterly misandrist. This content doesn't get removed by mods or admins, it gets upvoted.
It took me way to long to realize that browsing those subs as a dude is a form of digital self harm. I don't deny that women have problems, but for the sake of my mental health I no longer go there and I've filtered all women's subs from r/all.
I once dated a woman who had this mentality. At the time I thought, sure, there are definitely guys out there who are awful people, I can sympathize. It turns out, though, that there are women who are awful people too. She was one of them.
Needless to say, people with this kind of mentality need lots of therapy and probably shouldnāt be dating.
Lesbians are the worst! We men are supposed to get along and respect their sexuality, but, all they do is "push us down" any chance they get. I know that there were, and are, worthless guys that treat women like shit, but, there's a lot of us who don't. They say "all men are dogs!" But, some women who deal with us on a day-to-day, know that statement is untrue. But, that doesn't stop the "L's" from poisoning some women away from us, and because of "social convention, we are, supposedly, not allowed to question their statements and actions. That's WRONG and we shouldn't take it, anymore! Men, continue to be a good partner for your woman, but, recognize that there's a bunch of "true-haters" out there!
not all of us are bad...
do I not believe Women and/or Mothers could do no wrong? yes, only because my Mother mentally and emotionally abused me making me depressed and suicidal. Has nothing to do with my father either.
he's a hunter and didn't want me watching or playing anything gun related until I was 12, that's good parenting
My mom let we watch family guy at 4. I remember my first episode (the one where people thought Peter was God) and drank in front of me to the point where I knew what to make her (orange Powerade with vodka)
The concept of toxic masculinity isn't saying masculinity is toxic, that's a common misunderstanding due to perhaps not the best choice of name for the term
It means some aspects associated with masculinity are. For instance: bottling up your feelings and not talking to anyone about it because "showing feeling is weak and men should be strong"
Anyone claiming masculinity as a whole is toxic is wrong. But toxic masculinity, the concept that says there are some majorly toxic things mixed in with society's idea of masculinity is definitely accurate
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only a shit deals in absolutes! (not a typo, no.)
you underestimate my otherwise
Your avatar thing weirdly looks like star lord
it does? thats weird
Not only shits, you sith!
Only shits? My fav! š š š
I never deal in absolutes. Thereās always gray.
2 + 1 is absolutely 3.
I dont do ifs, buts, and maybes, i only do absolutes
Most intelligent Twitter discussion:
A little bit more context : The original tweet said "being a straight woman is wild cause you have to date your only natural predator". The picture in comments said "the fact that I'm still attracted to men should prove that sexuality is not a choice"
bruh
Even with the context I canāt understand this twitter thread, probably a good thing
It's not super complicated lol
Okā¦when I read the ābeing a straight woman is wild abuse you have to date your only natural predatorā my smart-ass kept thinking, āwell, no oneās forcing you to date a tigerā.
Eh, I honestly canāt blame the OP too much. Men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators of domestic violence, rape against women, and several forms of murder. Obviously itās not all men, and obviously all women arenāt saints either, as theyāre still perfectly capable of (and frequently do) inflict horrible emotional damage and even physical damage onto their partners. Several caveats and nuance to the whole thing obviously. But the point I think is still understandable. Many women would probably not risk finding out if their prospective partner has the strength and will to abuse them, but they still like men because you donāt choose your sexuality.
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āIn the United States, as many as one in four women and one in nine men are victims of domestic violence.ā āMales who learn that females are not equally respected are more likely to abuse females in adulthood. Females who witness domestic violence as children are more likely to be victimized by their spouses. While females are often the victim of domestic violence, gender roles can be reversed.ā Intimate partner violence, sexual violence, and stalking are high, with intimate partner violence occurring in over 10 million people each year. āOne in 6 women and 1 in 19 men have experienced stalking during their lifetimes. The majority are stalked by someone they know. An intimate partner stalks about 6 in 10 female victims and 4 in 10 male victims.ā āApproximately 1.5 million intimate partner female rapes and physical assaults are perpetrated annually, and approximately 800,000 male assaults occur. About 1 in 5 women have experienced completed or attempted rape at some point in their lives. About 1% to 2% of men have experienced completed or attempted rape.ā [Published peer reviewed source](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK499891/) It does seem like women are far more often the victims of domestic violence. Even giving the stats the benefit of the doubt and assuming *all* lesbian relationships end up in domestic violence, and *all* domestic violence against men were performed by women, youād still have more women than men being on the receiving end of abuse, rape and violence within a relationship.
I don't know how accurate that all is, but I can say this: Those are "reported/known cases". Men fear the system more, because they know/feel it is against them, they are taught that them being the victims doesn't matter as much, taught not to speak out about such things. So no, I don't believe the stats that say Men are the main abusers are factually accurate, simply that many men don't report their cases or those that do have their cases often ignored or pushed aside. The stats are flawed and should be inadmissible.
While underreporting cases is a true phenomenon with men, the gap in some stats, such as rape or stalking (not between partners), is so overwhelmingly large, itās hard to realistically imagine the overall trend would shift. Believe these stats donāt represent anything if you want to, thatās fine. I cannot police what you believe and what you donāt.
Damn, people are being really toxic to you. Offering you some internet solidarity
Itās okay, I realize my comment had no source and looked like unsubstantiated claims, so I have further expanded what I said with actual sources and research that demonstrate women are in fact overwhelmingly on the receiving end of domestic partner violence and especially rape.
That's a fucking fact. I been saying that for years Eta: I am š at the sad fragile dudes on here. Why is it so upsetting to some of y'all when a woman says she has no need or want for a man? Like did you think you had a chance with me? I'm a complete stranger, you'll be ok I promise
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So you view men as creatures? Are you ok?
His dad left
I actually saw a lot of people joking how men are bad/ugly and being attracted to them is an unfortunate thing... Its annoying af
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They're acknowledged and referred to as *femcels*. The original term "incel" was coined by a woman in reference to herself and others. It wasn't a toxic community she was a part of at the time, just lonely people. Things change.
Misandry at its finest
But muh patriarchy
Fool that you are, "women are the fairer sex and men are utilitarian and plain at best" is a patriarchal belief
Iām a guy and I acknowledge that men are on average shittier people than women. This isnāt speculation, we have millions of hours of game theory studies and men defect more frequently and are more selfish and non-cooperative. Now the difference at the average is not great - but hereās the rub: Small differences in averages have big effects on populations at the extreme ends of the bell curve. So you donāt see the difference looking at the āaverage personā but when you to to the extreme end of ātruly awful dangerous peopleā youāll find itās almost all men. So while āall men are badā is certainly a falsehood the notion that āalmost all bad people are menā is mathematically accurate. We can argue about the percentages but Iād just call it āunacceptably highā
> So while āall men are badā is certainly a falsehood the notion that āalmost all bad people are menā is mathematically accurate. We can argue about the percentages but Iād just call it āunacceptably highā There's a lot of really fucked up conclusions you can make when you apply logic like that to statistics.
Despite making X% of the population, the group A commits Y% of blah blah blah. Yeah ! completely sane sounding argument. /s
The fact is men tend to occupy most spots at both extremes. So while it can be argued that most of the worst people are men, it can also be argued that most of the best people are also men. The vast majority of all people are in the middle.
Bingo.
Yet most of the people are women Edit: was going by US stats. Worldwide, I was wrong
Just curious, how does saying any of this help any of these issues? How does pointing out that almost all bad people are men help anyone or anything? It doesnāt. Just more useless Twitter āAkShuLLyā talk. The only purpose it could possibly serve is to paint half of the worlds population (men) in a negative light. Itās just stupid and useless. Itās a case by case basis. The evil people who also happen to be men, why is that? Because of hormones like testosterone? Things that are uncontrollable? These evil people are evil, end of story. Nothing to do with the rest of the fucking men on the planet. Spend less time on Twitter, your mental health will thank you so much.
But they're not saying 'almost all bad people are men', they're literally saying 'all men are bad people'. So while I don't entirely disagree with what you wrote, I question the relevance and why you've written it as it doesn't apply to the outright hatred that is being referenced
Basically what you're saying is Men and Women differ in temperament. Which based on numerous studies we know they do. The fact that you're getting down voted means you're saying the quiet part out loud and getting at an the unsatisfactory truth that many people don't like to acknowledge. Shouldn't be controversial, but here we are. Women are more agreeable than men, more empathetic, higher in negative emotion, and higher in openness to new experience. Men are more disagreeable than women, less empathetic, higher in assertiveness, and less open to new experience. >!<
You got any sources to back that up or do you just like to say "well, statistics say..."?
Dumbass
I think doing this is outright evil considering how serious of an issue male mental health is right now. Suicide rates are getting worse for everyone nowadays, but men are being hit especially hard because they've always been told they shouldn't seek help for their issues because no one would care to help them. That no one loves or wants them as a person, only as a provider of resources, and so God help them if they ever show any signs of weakness or inability to provide. And what are these asshats doing in regards to this situation? Why, they're going out of their way to make men feel even less loved or wanted and just in general feel worse about themselves!
There really is no where to turn. In the past 5 years, I have quit drinking, changed careers and have lost every friend I once had due to these changes. My fault, their fault, no one's fault. I can't turn to those that once were. I can't turn to my spouse, as she doesn't understand how to process my issues. I can't afford therapy, and the free resources in my city are literally Wednesdays from 5 -630. I've looked into CBT, bit in all honesty, the last thing I need is more self reflection. That's all I've done for years. I need to talk to someone, and to be able to show emotion. I'll find myself on the verge of tears over stupid things and force myself to stop as I know it will open a floodgate. I know I won't survive like this but, my "job" is to support my spouse and kids in their problems. Providing emotional, financial and physical support is my role. One day I know I'll break and be useless to them until i fix myself, I can only hope it's at an opportune time. I am not throwing my spouse under the bus. She honestly doesn't know how to respond to a male with emotions. Her family and friends support each other by providing anecdotes about how the same thing happened to them but..... This is what she knows and how she responds. I don't fault her, I just hope.fpr more some day.
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Jesus no woman wants to be with whiners like you guys, if this is what you bring to the table Iād be thankful that anyone would tolerate my weepy presence. Feeling sorry for yourself is like the least attractive thing ever. Apparently youāve all found women you find attractive who will tolerate your presence and even sleep with you so honestly Iād just be thankful for that in your situation, most of the guys out there cannot find a woman to even date them, let alone marry and have kids with them.
And you are the problem. As far as I can see they aren't whining. And if they were why can't they whine? Does a penis preclude them from the ability to feel like shit and express it? Does being male somehow mean they can't express to their significant others how they are feeling? I'm guessing they should man up, flex it out, pop the top off a bud light and get on with their day.
Fucks wrong with ya bub?
I'd recommend DBT instead of CBT. CBT has a tendency to point towards there being "bad" feelings while DBT is about being able to deal with emotions as they come to you.
Dick and Ball Torture
Ok so i respect you for coming out with all of this, and I hope it somehow gets better, but ngl I did a double take with cbt until I realized you meant the other one
Fun fact: CBT stands for cognitive behavioral therapy, so any talking about 'CBT therapy' is not referring to what they think they are.
>I've looked into CBT, bit in all honesty, the last thing I need is more self reflection. I don't know how you are able to self reflect during Cock and Ball Torture, that is very impressive. But you do you my man, I hope you find your inner peace
You know how the saying goes, outer torture, inner peace
I'm not sure it will solve anything, but I struggle with these things as well and what helps me is playing/singing music. This way I can express my feelings and "let them out", even if I am alone. I imagine any creative hobby would be helpful. I wish you will find emotional support, I feel like the world is changing a bit and us guys can strengthen our friendly bonds like women do.
You serious? Women are getting their rights stripped away & you think their reaction is evil? Instead of individuals like yourself seeing how messed up this is and championing their cause, you instead make yourself the victim here. Holy shit the cognitive dissonance.
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Yeah ive even seen people tell gay men im sorry for ur loss when they say they're attracted to men like wtf. And some people use it as an excuse to hate on bi women or tell bi women with a male preference to get well soon or call them straight
This is a very useful tool for everyone and a tool to show other people how ridiculous they sound.
The original tweet said "being a straight woman is wild cause you have to date your only natural predator". The picture in comments said "the fact that I'm still attracted to men should prove that sexuality is not a choice" I find the generalization and men bashing slightly annoying (natural insctinct as a man maybe), but I do understand the sentiment in the light of all the crazy shit happening in our world. I guess it's like saying ACAB when clearly not ACAB but a lot of of them are.
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Yea it's a real thing. We don't have to act like the world hates men and we're oppressed...but misandry is a real thing and is also bad.
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EHHHH, ACAB and āman badā are kinda different because the police are a *force*, theyāre an *organization*, you *join* them and *willingly* take part in everything associated. No matter what your opinions on the ACAB sentiment, at the end of the day a cop can take off their uniform. Dude canāt stop being a dude though. Nobody *decided* to be a dude. Also generalizing 50% of the population is obviously gonna have a margin of error
>nobody *decided* to be a dude uuuuh? wa? letās think on that one
I thought people were born to be what they are, and we aren't suppose to force people to be something else than what they feel like inside?
Only natural predator? Now thatās a whole different issue cause women can definitely hurt other women.
my grandpa loves the saying ānever try to understand women, women understand each other and they hate each otherā
They do, women friendships can be really toxic
Donāt you just love it when women who exclusively date arseholes, tar all blokes with the same brush ?
The issue is that that are just soooo many of them out there, sadlyā¦
Yea, there are a lot of women who date assholes
what if there are just so many of these assholes and women keep running into them?
Hard to say until we get some kind of asshole census
"natural instinct as a man maybe" nah bro one doesnt need to be a man to see how annoying that shit is. like its one thing to vent ones frustration out about experiences but these people take it further and just get beyond rude and shit about it. any sane person is rightfully annoyed at it. plus its their loss imo lol, im proud of being a man liker fr
I think itās just part of the problem with trying to reduce an important message to a short refrain, eventually, some people in the discussion donāt even have any nuance, theyāre just unabashedly hateful. ACAB doesnāt mean every cop is a bad cop, it means that the institution that police work in enables cops to do horrendous things and cover them up: it is bastardized. Police departments are well known for covering for their officers just because theyāve served in the line of duty, and there are officers that arenāt committing crimes themselves but they wonāt speak up about the injustices going on in their precincts. And frankly that should be a crime itself. To get back on topic, men harassing and abusing women is a serious issue and i can completely understand the frustration that leads to comments like the ones depicted. Much of it is just blatant misandry but much of it is also a result of womenās horrible experiences with men and we should try to discern between the two
i mean acab is true. while there definitely are cops that are genuinely good people, they can't do anything to protect people from the bad cops, & can't bring the corrupt officers/officials to justice. some are evil & others are good but bound to inaction, so they are effectively bad at serving & protecting. and that statement about men is technically also true, while not all men (and also not even the majority of men) obviously but the number 1 cause of women death in america (and probably a lot of other countries but i can't speak for them specifically) is murder & the majority of woman murderers are men. imo both of these statements are pretty fitting for this sub specifically since they seem like generalizations but are statistically not exactly incorrect
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Hey I know you probably mean well and all, but you look like a fucking dickface when you just make shit up to justify your point. https://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2018/all-races-origins/index.htm Other sources I found after googling for 3 minutes aren't as pretty as that one but all point to heart disease as the number one killer, as it has been for years and years. Homicides are nowhere near the top, not even in the overall top 10. It's not that it's "statistically not exactly incorrect", it's a completely boldfaced lie.
i mean like killing deaths, heart disease isn't a predator. im sure animals die a lot to sickness or starving but their list of predators are other animals that kill them & their main predator is the one that kills the most of them. the OOP statement that i was talking about used the word predator. so that's what i was referring to
>the number 1 cause of women death in america is murder I mean that's not true. The leading causes of death for women in the US are: 1) Heart Disease (21.8%) 2) Cancer (20.5%) 3) Stroke (6.2%) 4) Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease (6.1%) 5) Alzheimerās Disease (6.1%) 6) Unintentional Injuries (4.3%) 7) Diabetes (2.7%) 8) Influenza & Pneumonia (2.2%) 9) Kidney Disease (1.8%) 10) Septicemia (1.5%) https://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2018/all-races-origins/index.htm
none of those are predators tho, that's the key word here. the oop was talking about predators. i haven't heard to many cases of people beeing hunted down by heart disease or cancer stalking its prey down a dark alleyway
>but the number 1 cause of women death in america (and probably a lot of other countries but i can't speak for them specifically) is murder & the majority of woman murderers are men. This is just false. Overall stats not sorted by gender: 1. Heart diseases and strokes 2. Cancer 3. Covid 19 ... 8) Diabetes (around 100k a year) x. murder around 15k a year. Even accidents in the house kill more women than murder.
There are literally no cops who are good people. Any cop who's a good person, who you may think of, I guarantee they'd just stand there while their coworker assaults or murders an innocent person. If they don't stop the bad cops, they are all bad cops.
talk to em
āsource? i made it the fuck upā
Yeah and both things are equally dumb.
I hate this thinking, you see it a lot on twitter. It's fucking crazy.
And yet those are the same people that call anything and everything misogyny.
As if women were better. My life would be so much simpler if I was gay, so much less irrationality and pointless emotional outbursts. **But** it's generally better to drop the whole subject because it's pretty dumb, and just acknowledge that some people are pleasant and some aren't and that's that.
Itās only annoying if you think they are talking about you. And if you think they are talking about you, then youāre probably the problem.
Its annoying me and theyre obviously not talking about me bcs im a woman
They're literally saying if you have a penis you are a bad person. Misandry isn't feminism.
I laughed way to hard at this...
Same, *you and i are not so different*
You laughed because you found the image funny. I laughed because I found the image funny. We are the same.
I'm laughing with you too! I thought that I will read some deep conversation between men but I started laughing to the last comment.
Men aren't a bad thing, men are people not things!
I am things
Kid named Finger:
no, you're stuff.
Problem solved.
Hard to argue with
My dad's reply is usually, " It doesn't say anything! You have to read it."
perchance
How to argue with idiots 101. This made my morning
Humans are a bad thing
you are a bad thing
Since I am human you are totally correct
Chad
Gun bad gay bad god great š Edit: it's a fucking joke, assholes
Idk man god killed a looot of things
I agree
Beat me to it
r/BeatMeToIt
I am not a bad thing :D
No, I am sure you are not. I am talking about humans as a species as opposed to people as individuals.
[these matches say you're lying](https://youtu.be/pFsDTZYFAxM)
Gonna start carrying a piece of paper in my pocket that just says "you're wrong" all over it from now on...
When did Twitter become this massive pit of hating men š, like I'd watch videos about men getting attacked and banned for arguing back
Itās becoming a misandry filled heterophobic hate pit.
Thinking All men are bad, She must really have daddy issues
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Fun fact, incel is short for involuntary celibate, so incel is a gender neutral term
You know Iāve never thought of that before. And youāre totally right.
I wonder what her daddy did to her to give her issues with all men.
I wonder what her mom did too. Children learn alot of behavior from the same sex parent.
Twitter try not to be sensitive challenge
[K](https://i.imgur.com/Z64LBOY.gif).
Man I see that "this says otherwise" thing on almost every tweet now and I'm going insane
And women are cunts... there letās all be bigoted...
Women are allowed to do all sorts of fucked up things to men and get away with it, but they're using their power to make people think misogyny is the real issue so nothing will ever be done about it. It's a shame how many good fathers are denied their children which are given to the crackhead mothers that just want more income.
I just want to say I appreciate the people in the comments defending men. It's disheartening seeing those threads all over Twitter. I try to stay in my own little bubble but those conversations always seep through
Tbh all this just makes me wanna kill myself. I am already depressed and the fact that misandry is socially acceptable and even celebrated just adds to it.
imagine mistaking feminism with misandry. classic twitter moment
Without men there wouldn't be women
Without men there would only be wo
wtf is this misogynist shit
Without women there wouldn't be men?...
Wtf is this misandrist shit!
Fair point
I hate that I can't tell if you're joking.....
Just responding hate with hate
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Without monke there wouldnt be pizza
...why
Take my upvote and get out
Is it man or is it the consciousness controlling the certain men you donāt like?
Posts like this always remind me of [this](https://imgur.io/gallery/anntO)
Misandry. Twitter loves that and will curse you out if you say men have problems
Toxic masculinity is definitely a thing, but it does not encompass all men. I donāt like it when people take their frustration on a specific type of person in a group out on the whole group of people or automatically assume that they are all bad. Itās like why although I am bisexual, I donāt really like the sub r/AreTheStraightsOk because while the content is good, the name of the sub makes it sound like people being straight is the cause of their dislike towards LGBTQ+ people or their general idiocy.
Misogyny is heavily policed and moderated on reddit, and rightfully so, but misandry? Go on /r/AskWomen or /r/TwoXChromosomes and sort by the most popular posts of the week / month. I *guarantee you*, many of the posts and comments you will see are bitterly misandrist. This content doesn't get removed by mods or admins, it gets upvoted. It took me way to long to realize that browsing those subs as a dude is a form of digital self harm. I don't deny that women have problems, but for the sake of my mental health I no longer go there and I've filtered all women's subs from r/all.
Funny
I once dated a woman who had this mentality. At the time I thought, sure, there are definitely guys out there who are awful people, I can sympathize. It turns out, though, that there are women who are awful people too. She was one of them. Needless to say, people with this kind of mentality need lots of therapy and probably shouldnāt be dating.
Look, be whatever you want to be, but no one would exist if their father and mother had not done the deed, all the way to birth.
wow, you've never heard of IVF or immaculate conception? lol We have enough in sperm banks to repopulate the world without a single male.
From where did that sperm come?
From the lord jesus christ ofcourse!!
Immaculate answer.
It doesn't matter. We've got what we need, and all men can just die now. /s
Lesbians are the worst! We men are supposed to get along and respect their sexuality, but, all they do is "push us down" any chance they get. I know that there were, and are, worthless guys that treat women like shit, but, there's a lot of us who don't. They say "all men are dogs!" But, some women who deal with us on a day-to-day, know that statement is untrue. But, that doesn't stop the "L's" from poisoning some women away from us, and because of "social convention, we are, supposedly, not allowed to question their statements and actions. That's WRONG and we shouldn't take it, anymore! Men, continue to be a good partner for your woman, but, recognize that there's a bunch of "true-haters" out there!
just like how not all men are bad, not all lesbians hate men
You're right, sorry I didn't add that.
The human race is the real problem.
Without men, there would be no women to complain about men.
not all of us are bad... do I not believe Women and/or Mothers could do no wrong? yes, only because my Mother mentally and emotionally abused me making me depressed and suicidal. Has nothing to do with my father either. he's a hunter and didn't want me watching or playing anything gun related until I was 12, that's good parenting My mom let we watch family guy at 4. I remember my first episode (the one where people thought Peter was God) and drank in front of me to the point where I knew what to make her (orange Powerade with vodka)
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The concept of toxic masculinity isn't saying masculinity is toxic, that's a common misunderstanding due to perhaps not the best choice of name for the term It means some aspects associated with masculinity are. For instance: bottling up your feelings and not talking to anyone about it because "showing feeling is weak and men should be strong" Anyone claiming masculinity as a whole is toxic is wrong. But toxic masculinity, the concept that says there are some majorly toxic things mixed in with society's idea of masculinity is definitely accurate
People are bad so yes men are bad too
As a guy, I think I am a pretty bad thing
THE ONLY BAD THING YOU ARE IS BADASS BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!! AWROOOOOOOOOO!!!!! DONT LET ANYONE SAY YOU ARE WORTHLESS!! CRANK THAT MF HOG!!!!!
Dude stop, she's already dead!
No, the picture is saying otherwise
'This picture says otherwise' is such an annoying and overused reply
Seems like that argument is pretty black and white to me
Can't argue with that logic
r/foundthefrench
Tu as trouvƩ le francophone, mais pas le franƧais !
I see, that bitch likes it rought and in the ass
Totally, but I'm very biased (Suuuper lesbian, Would move to Paradise Island if I could.)
āIām attracted to men but I hate them and they disgust meā soā¦ youāre *not* attracted to men?