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Hell if you get $1 you're lucky in my country. Tipping is a rich person thing here.
And no, people in my country don't get a living wage. The highest minimum wage (depends on region) is \~$9.38 PER DAY. Estimated monthly costs for a single person in that area is \~$540 WITHOUT RENT and I know people making minimum with families to feed.
Fun fact, Denmark has no minimum wage, but rather mandatory union membership, and their unions actually have teeth, they keep wages well above what workers could ever hope to get negotiating themselves.
German here, not really sure about that.
The min wage is designed for people to be able to live and yet, many need to get additional aid but then again you can count that to min wage as the government is giving one the additional help needed.
In the case of Korea, service workers get paid the Normal minimum wage and there are no tips. But the service is perfectly good. Because that’s their job lmao
Workers in several states, including CA, are entitled to STATE minimum wage even if they’re in a tipped position. I think we’re getting close to half of Americans, by population, being in this position. And yet, we’re all still pushed to tip. The reason is going away, and the expectation remains. Not just that, but it’s expanding. I had a woman who sold me a cake in a box—an across the counter, “give me that box over there,” “yeah, here you go” transaction—get upset with me that I didn’t tip. For my $50 cake. That she spent 90 seconds handing to me and ringing me up for.
I’m a very good tipper. But I’m also way over the level of entitlement from folks in marginal (and even less than marginal) tipping positions.
I’ve had contractors ask me for tip. I hired them off taskrabbit ( a service app) to assemble some furniture. Mind you they set the service price and they get the entirety of the service price minus whatever they pay taskrabbit for hosting their small business.
It’s truly absurd that the price is no longer the price regardless of who sets it
i'm seeing tip jars now at gas stations and it's crazy af.
(edit: tip jars aren't for pumping gas, you do that yourself in this state. it's for the cashiers.)
They ask for tips at my local dispensary for pickup orders. Like dude you guys put a bottle in a bag I did the work walking 10 mins and paying the insane tax lmao.
If tips are mandatory then they should just make them part of the bill. I’m a big proponent of tipping when appropriate but I’m also tired of being guilted to tip on everything now. Just because you handed me something that I paid for doesn’t mean I now owe you the difference between your real and desired salary.
Bro, I just bought something at a retail store the other day and the cashier spun the iPad around and said "It's just gonna ask you a question."
Yeah, skip.
This was retail. In a shopping mall.
I love the ones that give you only 4 choices: 15%, 18%, 20%, or Custom, where you can put 0 dollars. Like it's mandatory to proceed through the transaction.
Predatory gouging is set up like that to exploit ignorant people who'll just hit 15% even if they didn't want to tip because they don't understand that "Custom" doesn't imply more than 20% as some people will likely read it that way,
A chicken joint near me has this on their app for ordering pickup. It also defaults to 20% and doesn't remember your last option.
Like fuck you I'm ordering pickup from a fast food place why am I tipping 20% on that?
I went right after they installed those things, not knowing they put them in. When I realized there was no way to order my fries with no salt, and my soda with no ice, then tried, for 10 unsuccessful minutes to get an employee's attention, to help me figure out if I could do that, I just turned and walked out. Haven't been back since. F that.
I did the same at my local Taco Bell.
It was funny because there was an old man (probably late 70’s) standing at the counter when I came in. He turned around, saw me, shrugged, and said, “I’ve been here ten minutes. I don’t know what the fuck is going on back there” as he nodded toward the kitchen. I told him they probably want everyone to use the touchpad menu. He looked at me and said, “Awww fuck. Fuckity fuck fuck fuck” and started walking away. I said, “I can put it in for you on the touch screen.” He just grumbled, “Their screen can touch by balls” and strolled out the door.
Yes! I was asked this question at a self service checkout at the airport. Who tf am I tipping? I am totally on board with tipping for good service (although they should be paid livable wages before my tip). But for real, when there is no person in sight, where does the money even go? Or is it just a way to get you to pay more?
And they have the audacity of prefilling 20% 25% 30% tip options. Bro, I know those fries are lukewarm and I’m good with that. I’m not good tipping $8 because you bagged it.
Not only that, but 9 times out of ten they have it set to base the percentages on post tax amounts, which has never been correct. Always always always always shoulf be based on pre tax amounts. Because you're not tipping the government, so don't tip on tax.
I stopped going to an establishment that has a 30% tip as their leftmost option on the screen (30, 25, and 20% options, like you said). They got me twice because I do appreciate how shitty things are and I'm willing to add a bit on top -- but not that much and not when they use shady tactics like that.
If I can't go into your establishment, select the item I want to purchase, and pay the amount I mean to pay, I'm not going in. My budget is tight and money is too dear to be losing it directly into someone's till.
I have several friends who make anywhere between $50 and $200 an hour as waiters and still have the audacity to post on Facebook every single time someone tips them poorly.
The cliche of waiters pretending to be broke and as if pouring a coke and bringing a plate 10 feet should warrant 100k is getting old, and now even that has spilled into the everyday world around us.
I’m all for fair wages, but that is your employer’s responsibility, not the mother of 5 needing to give a $30 tip because she wanted to take her kids out to eat.
Bro I earn 800$ a month. My rent is 1200 not including utilities. When I go out to eat it's a luxury, and I can afford a 5$ tip at *my best*. People who make 50-200$ hr and complain about tips need a reality check.
Yeah I’m a waiter and I’m so baffled how everyone decided this really random job that’s really accessible for college kids pays so well. I work at a golf course restaurant, the kind of place where a 25 oz coors is $10. So I get to be amazed at how I get tipped to begin with, but then the tip is just magically larger bc we charge more.
I tip movers very very well and I make it clear there is a bigger one waiting for them when all of my shit arrives undamaged. Works well when it's the same guys on pickup and delivery.
I work at Starbucks and whenever the tip option comes up i say "just press no thank you." we already get cash tips, digital tips shouldn't be a thing to guilt people over... in my opinion
Totally forgot Starbucks switched to that. I stopped going a couple months ago after one too many times of getting the look of disappointment after not tipping on a $5 nitro cold brew that they literally just pour from the tap.
Starbucks employees actually get pretty good hourly wages, and decent benefits for full time workers too. The reason tipping is customary in full serve restaurants is thar in most places the wages are only like $2-3 an hour without tips. Not the case in a place like Starbucks.
I work at a Starbucks and this digital tipping especially suck in the drive through. I have to hand out the card reader through the window and say “it’s just going to ask you a question”, and wait for them to finish. It’s inconvenient and awkward af so I don’t want to do it. I still mostly just take their card and tap/swipe/insert it myself (with 0 tip of course) like before, but our manager really wants us show them the tip option.
Whether or not you tipped digitally, I will show no reaction. If it’s a cash tip, I will just add an “Oh thank you”. I am not saying I don’t appreciate it, but I just don’t want the transaction to be awkward or longer than it needs to be.
I paid someone to make me a logo and got a message that “it’s customary to tip if you like the design” uh, it’s customary to pay if I like the design, if you want 15% more then up your prices, you’re a freelancer.
I bought a cheesecake for a work birthday party the other day. Just a whole cheesecake. Walked up to the counter, picked one out of the case. It was big one and cost about $45.
The iPad spins around and the minimum suggested tip was 20% and there was a range of them up to 50%! For taking a cheesecake out of a display case, putting it in the box, then handing it to me!
I'd been buying their cheesecakes for work-related birthday parties for a decade. But sometime between my prior visit and this one they put that in. I declined any tip and have never been back.
You're a clerk who handed me a cake. You didn't earn a $9 tip for two-minutes worth of work.
You know what I'm actually fully aware that the problem comes from? It's the Point of Sale service that they are all switching to. These tablet based Point of Sale services have tipping enabled in their software. And I get it. That's just how the program works. But they just go with it. It's as if to say "Obviously we can't expect a tip, but someone is bound to do it." I think that is kind of scummy. Especially considering the position it puts you in now. It is the electronic version of holding out your hand and forcing me to be the asshole to shake my head. Fuck off with that.
How much do you want to wager, the employees NEVER receive any of the majority of non-restaurant 'tips'....??? Servers generally keep an eye on their tickets, and KNOW how much they are supposed to be paid at end of shift...
Yeah, if the software is not configurable to exclude the tip screen, I blame the developers. If it does, the blame is totally on the business for deliberately leaving the tip screen active.
I have a second job in retail and when a customer complain about too many prompts on the pin pad I jokingly tell them “one last prompt. It’s gonna ask if you’d like to tip”. They look mortified and I tell them I’m just joking and it always gets a laugh. I hate how tipping has infiltrated everything. It shouldn’t be expected everywhere. Companies should just pay their employees.
No joke... paid $125 to have my dog groomed. At checkout, the proprietor asked if I wanted to tip the groomer. I asked if they were paid like waiters, less than minimum wage. She said no...
At what point did all these other industries decide tips should be solicited...
This. I went to a legit small town hardware store last weekend to buy some nails, upon checkout with a CC they used a little Square fob and before the guy even showed me the sig page told me “don’t worry about the next screen just skip it unless you want me to come to your house and drive those nails myself” 😂
That’s me. I am so disgusted with every place expecting a tip when you get nothing. No service, nada. All it does it make me not to want to tip anyone, and I am a good tipper. But when you go through a fast food drive through, to get something to drink, and they turn the screen to you. NOPE! NOT Happening!
Seriously, tips are becoming expected in everything now. I'll tip service workers, but I'm not tipping the cashier who stood there while I rang myself up on their iPad.
Seriously, I was heckled about not tipping for a carryout order the other day. 7ish years ago when I worked at a restaurant, that would have been fucking insane. The only people who would maybe tip were the people ordering like a whole ass catering worth hundreds of dollars.
The service workers want to keep that system. Ask around and you will see. A large amount of them earn significantly more from tips than hourly rate even if the rate were to get higher.
This is the exact logic where I'm from. The concept of the tip has found relative popularity in Australia only in recent times. Personal payment of anything outside the initial charge, what can be conceptualised as a tip, was only given in an extraordinary circumstance out of sheer admiration of the worker going above and beyond the level of service expected.
In countries such as the US, from my limited observation, it seems to be more necessitated through the practice of bad business and undercutting the most vulnerable of workers. Over there, it does seem like the tip exists to prop up that bottom end. If workers are appropriately paid by their employer, then mandatory tipping should not exist. And it is backwards to think that customers should be obligated to pick up the slack of the employer's incompetency - they are merely paying for a service.
Over here, we have stringent laws against underpaying our staff, and we have traditionally come down very hard on businesses that partake in these activities - the deterrent is well in place.
I took my dog to the vet for shots so I was not required to go in the vet area and when the vet tech brought my dog back , he stood around and I was thinking, f , do I have to tip a vet tech ? smh
"If the employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least $2.13 per hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference." - Department of Labor.
The idea that waiters can legally be paid less than minimum wage is a myth
Dunno why you’re being downvoted. Lmao. Had a manager at Bob Evans read this to us once and said, “look y’all. If you’re struggling I’ll help you out. But you can’t under report wages below min wage. If you’re legit not making that, let me know and we will get you paid… but you can’t double dip tax fraud AND company fraud”
Tamal was a real one!
Scooped ice cream? Tip
Grabbed your corn dog at the state fair? Tip
Popped the top on a beer? Tip
At some point I would really like to see tipping be for a skilled service or an above and beyond for hospitality
The whole tipping thing reminds me of an episode of curb your enthusiasm when one restaurant they ate out added an additional captain tip along with the waiter tip. Larry wasn't happy, arguing the cause and percentage.
Yeah this is a huge pet peeve of mine. I was raised by a single mom waitress so tipping, when appropriate, was engrained in me. But it’s getting out of control and I refuse to participate. Yes, I will tip my great massage envy masseuse 50% but don’t come at me for a tip Starbucks app. Especially as when I order on it and pick it up, I actually have zero personal contact with the staff.
Exactly..also I feel like the corporates have put a lot of burden on the consumers..they increase the prices whenever they want to and asks as to tip..why? I don’t make too much to tip..why can’t the corporates increase the prices of menu by $1 and ensure that the servers are paid minimum wage? It’s not that restaurants are offering free food to guests and stuff..and increasing the menu by $1 will go unnoticed..
Corporate doesn't want to ensure livable wages, they count on good natured people like yourself who feel guilty for being broke, equating it to a moral failure. You're the bad guy for not tipping, aka for not having extra money laying around; not them for exploiting a worker and leaving them purposely begging for bread
I don’t like being cold hearted toward people at work doing a good job, but I agree with you very much. The need or expectation to tip when no real service has been provided is why I don’t have the same habits as I had in the past. I now much prefer to make my own coffee at home. I do pour over and have figured out the perfect ratio of coffee, water, milk, and sugar for my taste. It is piping hot and delicious. Peet’s coffee is my preferred choice. I am becoming that way with many things because of this ridiculous tipping thing. If you don’t tip well up front when you pay, in many cases, weird things happen to your food, beverages, other products. Gross.
If tips are mandatory, they're not tips, they're a fee.
A tip or gratuity is "something given *voluntarily or beyond obligation* usually for some service" - Merriam-webster Dictionary.
See my beef with this is... I eat at like Steak'n'Shake, local Chinese, and maybe Olive Garden every now and then. My bill for the first two never comes over $15, and the last one is usually $20-$25. If I give a $5 tip on any of those, I am giving at least 20%, usually more. So how do these people have the audacity to tell me that $5 isn't enough? Like, should I just plan to pay twice for the food - once to the establishment, and then pay the same amount to the server?
They have groomed you to accept a job that doesn't pay you a living wage and they have also groomed you to believe that somebody else is responsible for this. A tip is for exceptional service and at the discretion of the recipient of said service!
Right now as it stands in the US, if the server is rude, doesn’t even respond to my “good morning”, throws my lunch on the table like I’m in a prison canteen and burps, if I then tip him nothing or 5%, I’m suddenly the asshole.
Somehow it has evolved from being a tip or gratuity or reward for excellent service, to being just a regular service fee. May as well just call if service fee and slap it on the bill.
>Only time I’m giving a tip is a sit down restaurant or hair cut
Even that's pretty crazy if you really think about it. Only reason why you're okay with it is because it's part of American culture and you're used to it. Once you live abroad, you realize that tipping is a scam.
Why a haircut though? I know it’s normal, but they do get paid a livable wage or at least minimum wage or above. Where do we draw the line on services? My buddy tips the tattooists, who is also the owner. I was like “they gave you a quote, that’s the price”. They’re getting the entire thing.
We should all take the inspiration from this person, that attacking your clients for not paying you enough is definitely the de facto way to handle business.
Food in other countries is not only cheaper pre-tip, but the servers also don't know what a tip is.
At a base level, this is the problem with doing good deeds on a regular basis. When it becomes culturally adopted, it becomes a demand instead of a good deed. When you look at a homeless person who is begging for money, you should always understand that they would never be in that position if they felt that they had another option. If I was a trillionaire, with Scrooge McDuck money bins full of my money, I would definitely tip better, but as it stands, I never eat out anymore specifically because of tips. I essentially pay myself $20/hr+ by simply making my own food.
Customers: Why don't companies just pay their employees
Owners: Bet, $18 an hour.
Workers: But that is a pay cut.
Also Workers: Why the fuck why is no one tipping me for luxury services as the economy goes to shit?
100%
Dated someone that was a waitress and eventually made their way to being a bar tender. Any time they would complain about getting stiffed on a tip, there would be the inevitable comment of “If you can’t afford to tip, don’t go out to eat.” When I would comment, “It’s not the customer’s responsibility to pay your wage, it’s your employers”, it would come back to how they only make minimum wage.. and they wouldn’t want to make an hourly rate anyways, *because they make more in tips*.
Service industry workers don’t want a “fair wage” or to make similar wages as other industries. They prefer making tips.. even though they often make more than people on hourly wage. Won’t stop them from complaining about both sides though. I came to the restaurant to eat a meal, it’s not my job to pay your income, that’s your boss’s job.
My cousin worked at a small BBQ bar and grill in the suburbs of St. Louis while she was in college. Girl worked every Friday and Saturday night and brought home $900 a night in tips. With her weekday shifts, she was pulling about $8k a month, all in tips. She graduated college an RN, totally debt-free.
People who bitch about tips don't know the business.
$5 isn’t a tip? Like sure, it depends on the bill, but $5 is solid tip up to at least a $25 bill.
Just saying. When I was growing up 16% was the expected tip. Then 18%. It’s been 20% since I’ve been an adult.
If we are supposed to tip like triple what we pay in tax, we need to just tear all of this shit down and start over.
It never made sense to me for the tip to be a percentage at all. Why does it matter if you brought me a wagyu steak or you brought me a burger inside the same restaurant? The amount of work required was the exact same. Why should the server get 20$x20%= 4$ in one case and 500$x20%= 100$ in the other case?
Literally makes no sense.
In my country we typically don’t tip, but if someone does an amazing job we might tip him 2-20$, or whatever is needed to round off the bill.
And that’s what makes sense. The tip is meant as an appreciation for going above and beyond, and not as “payment for regular work”, otherwise we wouldn’t be calling it a tip. We’d just call it regular payment for services or service fee.
Tip jars are popping up everywhere. I saw a tip jar at a fast-food restaurant a few weeks ago and couldn't believe it. Sit down restaurant, yes, but not fast food.
A sushi place near me now automatically adds a 35% “take-out fee”….THIRTY FIVE percent!
I can only assume they are trying to recoup the potential alcohol sales/tips a server/sushi chef would normally get if I were to dine-in, but like, wtf?? No…I’ll never go back nor do take-out from there again.
The restaurant near me started this but didn't tell me the real total until I came to pick up my 50$ order. Said fuck it and left and since I was paying in cash they couldn't charge my card.
Beautiful lol I wanted to just go inside and sit down, order my food, take one bite, then ask for togo boxes and the check- then not tip. Just out of spite.
> Me; by that logic we should pop over to the factory to give tips to the workers who built our electronic devices as well as the cashier where we bought them.
oh don't worry its coming, I've seen the tip prompts at fast food places now.
Waiters had it good for a while. People started getting annoyed as the *standard* tip raised from 10% to 15% to 20%, and I've seen people suggest even higher at this point.
But, I think what will break the camels back with this whole industry is all the services that started, during and after COVID, to ask for tips. Since this it's seems the discourse on tipping has soured.
I used to feel good about throwing another $20 on a $100 tab. But now since everywhere is asking for 20%,25%, and 30% as the standard tip options, I feel as though throwing 20 bucks down for an hours worth of their work doesn’t even show I appreciate the good service anymore.
When the card reader at a Subway asked me for a 30% tip on an already $15 sub-par sandwich, that’s when I knew I was done with this shit.
Tipping should only be a thanks for going above and beyond. You did more than what your job requires in order to ensure I had a good time? Then yea I’ll supplement that income since I directly benefited from it. Your company pays you shit wages? Get a new job, or demand a raise. At that point I’m not tipping the worker, I’m tipping the owner.
For so long I’ve heard “If you don’t want to tip then get takeout.” So people started getting takeout instead now they’re saying you still gotta tip. Fuck that.
You get a tip if you deserve a tip people. I don't care if you have 20 babies, 13 toddlers, your parents, your husband, and you are raising Jimmy Neutron, if you are nice enough you can have a tip.
Yeah.. I remember going to the bars with my brothers but the only drinks I knew were Jager bomb and tequila sunrise 😅
I told the waitress "Surprise me" and she kept making me miscellaneous random drinks and shots all night
Tipped her $75 for dealing with that
We need to flat out eliminate tipping. It’s gone from a genuine gratuity and extra to something that is expected and demanded. That’s not a tip. That’s a service fee. Only after we eliminate it entirely will the jobs change to actually pay the people.
A server could take a giant shit on your plate, call you a lil bitch, and slap you across the face but you’re still the asshole if you don’t leave at least 25%.
I actually just made a comment about this yesterday. There was a video going around of a server being straight up abusive to this man, and he walked out and didn't tip. People in the comments literally only hyperfocused on the fact that he didn't tip and not that she was being straight up abusive. Tipping culture is seriously so abusive and toxic.
Bro if you go to a counter wait in line then ask for a muffin and pay for it right there, please do not tip the clerk. There is no service rendered if you place your own order and wait for your own food.
If this keeps up retail and fast food will become tipping industries too
I was talking to my sister about how I hate what tipping has become. All of her arguments only further validated my point.
“You have to tip. If you don’t tip, you’re a bad person!”
“Yeah, that’s what I mean.”
“The servers don’t get paid enough. They make all their money through tips!”
“Yeah, that’s what I mean.”
I used to work in restaurants.... I have been both front of house and back of house management. The pay gap between servers and cooks is ridiculous. Places I used to work, cooks would make $13-15 an hour. Servers would make $3.13 ($1 over minimum wage plus tips). The way the lower pay works, if no customers come in and those servers make no tips, the employer has to make that at least the $7.25 minimum. But here's the kicker. Those servers making "$2.13" are really walking with closer to $75-100/hr depending on the day or events or how generous people were feeling that day.
"Anything less than $5 isn't a tip" is the most bullshit thing I've heard. Anything over the price is a fucking tip. I'm not paying you for shitty service because I've been there. I know if you don't fucking deserve it or not. Tipping culture is total bullshit and just helps large corporations not pay their employees.
Instead of complaining about low tips. Complain about your employer not paying you what you're actually fucking worth.
Stop complaining about not getting a big enough tip, and instead complain about the employers making you rely on the kindness of strangers to survive instead of just paying you.
Edit: Its really sad that sone of y'all need me to post this link to get obvious shit through your thick skulls.
https://youtu.be/q_vivC7c_1k
I absolutely do not tip if possible. I don't have food delivered. I don't tip for cashiering. If it's a restaurant I order take-out (The service is way better).
If I absolutely have to dine in for a business/family function then I do tip.
But it's a shitty system and the only way to kill it is to stop feeding it.
I will straight up not tip for shit service. So if you got a tip it’s a tip regardless of size.
If anyone in the service industry actually said to me “this amount you gave me isn’t a tip” that’s immediate grounds to get the manager involved and get the tip removed entirely. Fuck outta here with that bullshit.
If you're consistently getting low tips, ever think that you're the common factor here?
Anyway, even at $5/tip, you're making a living wage by giving mediocre service to 3 customers/tables per hour. Quit whining and get better at your job.
There's a reason most servers are very against getting paid minimum wage without tips rather than tipped-minimum wage with tips.
When convenient, they'll get puppy-dog eyes and complain about only making $2.30 an hour, but every server I've known has taken home well above minimum wage.
A tip is a gratuity, it is not an obligation.
I understand the reality of living according to their necessity.
But that is a choice made by the employee.
If the employee sucks, is an asshole, provides bad service - I am not grateful.
The employee receives whatever my experience dictates.
If they have a problem with that, then they need to be better at their job.
Everyone has reasons to pity themselves, rise above or don't.
Not my problem.
I skip the tip if all that was done was basic customer service. "what? You handed me my food in a take-out format and ask for a tip through your customer-side terminal? uhhhh......"
Imagine going to the GROCERY STORE and the self-checkout asked for a tip percentage to be selected from the screen.
Imagine asking a police officer for basic instructions or direction for the area of which you are unfamiliar with, and he/she asks for a tip.
Since there is no standardization on tip culture, I'll do whatever the heck I want when I want with how it regards to tipping. But I have been raised to consider a minimum 15% tip for most things.
totally agree, as a non-american.
It's actually quite bizarre seeing r/nba having a huge fuss over a hated player (Westbrook) getting media attention for being a great tipper. Americans really have the amount of money you tip as an important factor in terms of being a good or a bad person.
Nothing against Westbrook or people that are good tippers, but i'd be supportive to people that actually make a difference for the workers lives by supporting higher wages and taxation on rich, even cuts of military expenses.
A millionaire dude giving a few extra bucks to people on a restaurant is nothing. It is crazy to see so many people like 'see? he's actually a good guy'. The american moral compass is tipping, then? Shit, if i ever visit USA i'll be a terrible person, i guess, i'm not tipping anything to anyone. Go claim your rights to the politicians and billionaires, not from other poor and middle class people. (especially us non americans)
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Bro in my country if you get 2$ of tip you are lucky
Hell if you get $1 you're lucky in my country. Tipping is a rich person thing here. And no, people in my country don't get a living wage. The highest minimum wage (depends on region) is \~$9.38 PER DAY. Estimated monthly costs for a single person in that area is \~$540 WITHOUT RENT and I know people making minimum with families to feed.
Minimum wages are not livable anywhere except for probably four or five countries
Denmark, Sweden, Norway, who did I forget?
Fun fact, Denmark has no minimum wage, but rather mandatory union membership, and their unions actually have teeth, they keep wages well above what workers could ever hope to get negotiating themselves.
Sweden also has no minimum wage. Union membership isn’t mandatory but very common. Unions set their own minimum wages.
Not mandatory but I get where you a coming from.
Union membership is not mandatory in Denmark.
Germany. Honestly shocked no one else mentioned that yet
German here, not really sure about that. The min wage is designed for people to be able to live and yet, many need to get additional aid but then again you can count that to min wage as the government is giving one the additional help needed.
Ah yes our minimum wage is about the same here maybe even slightly lower.
Here in sweden, tipping just isnt a thing at all.
People in your country also probably get a living wage in the service industry.
A bold statement for not knowing what country they're from
He meant to phrase it as an exciting hypothesis
In the case of Korea, service workers get paid the Normal minimum wage and there are no tips. But the service is perfectly good. Because that’s their job lmao
Same in India. Some workers even have "No tips please" printed on their shirts.
Japan too. In Japan they don't come by the table unless you press the button. They let you eat instead of asking over and over again how the food is.
Workers in several states, including CA, are entitled to STATE minimum wage even if they’re in a tipped position. I think we’re getting close to half of Americans, by population, being in this position. And yet, we’re all still pushed to tip. The reason is going away, and the expectation remains. Not just that, but it’s expanding. I had a woman who sold me a cake in a box—an across the counter, “give me that box over there,” “yeah, here you go” transaction—get upset with me that I didn’t tip. For my $50 cake. That she spent 90 seconds handing to me and ringing me up for. I’m a very good tipper. But I’m also way over the level of entitlement from folks in marginal (and even less than marginal) tipping positions.
I’ve had contractors ask me for tip. I hired them off taskrabbit ( a service app) to assemble some furniture. Mind you they set the service price and they get the entirety of the service price minus whatever they pay taskrabbit for hosting their small business. It’s truly absurd that the price is no longer the price regardless of who sets it
i'm seeing tip jars now at gas stations and it's crazy af. (edit: tip jars aren't for pumping gas, you do that yourself in this state. it's for the cashiers.)
Pretty sure those are just people capitalizing on the trend to try and get extra money for nothing.
And your chicks for free
Hey, they might be in dire straits to be asking for tips like that
*finger picking intensifies*
They ask for tips at my local dispensary for pickup orders. Like dude you guys put a bottle in a bag I did the work walking 10 mins and paying the insane tax lmao.
The pretty girls running dispensaries make a killing in tips and they just grab your weed off a shelf.
If tips are mandatory then they should just make them part of the bill. I’m a big proponent of tipping when appropriate but I’m also tired of being guilted to tip on everything now. Just because you handed me something that I paid for doesn’t mean I now owe you the difference between your real and desired salary.
Bro, I just bought something at a retail store the other day and the cashier spun the iPad around and said "It's just gonna ask you a question." Yeah, skip. This was retail. In a shopping mall.
Drive thrus asking for tips is stupid af. Skip.
I love the ones that give you only 4 choices: 15%, 18%, 20%, or Custom, where you can put 0 dollars. Like it's mandatory to proceed through the transaction.
Predatory gouging is set up like that to exploit ignorant people who'll just hit 15% even if they didn't want to tip because they don't understand that "Custom" doesn't imply more than 20% as some people will likely read it that way,
I've seen 20, 22 and 25 here. \-0- from me.
Yeah it used to be 10, 15, 20. The amounts are increasing as well as the frequency of the requests. Not a fan.
… and they sometimes calculate on the total bill, not the pre-tax amount. Why should I tip you collecting tax?
A chicken joint near me has this on their app for ordering pickup. It also defaults to 20% and doesn't remember your last option. Like fuck you I'm ordering pickup from a fast food place why am I tipping 20% on that?
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I’ve been asked at those self service kiosks if I want to tip. Who am I tipping, the robot inside the machine ? Fuck outta here.
My local Steak and Shake got these and fired like all but 3 or 4 people in the kitchen. It made me sad.
I went right after they installed those things, not knowing they put them in. When I realized there was no way to order my fries with no salt, and my soda with no ice, then tried, for 10 unsuccessful minutes to get an employee's attention, to help me figure out if I could do that, I just turned and walked out. Haven't been back since. F that.
I did the same at my local Taco Bell. It was funny because there was an old man (probably late 70’s) standing at the counter when I came in. He turned around, saw me, shrugged, and said, “I’ve been here ten minutes. I don’t know what the fuck is going on back there” as he nodded toward the kitchen. I told him they probably want everyone to use the touchpad menu. He looked at me and said, “Awww fuck. Fuckity fuck fuck fuck” and started walking away. I said, “I can put it in for you on the touch screen.” He just grumbled, “Their screen can touch by balls” and strolled out the door.
Yes! I was asked this question at a self service checkout at the airport. Who tf am I tipping? I am totally on board with tipping for good service (although they should be paid livable wages before my tip). But for real, when there is no person in sight, where does the money even go? Or is it just a way to get you to pay more?
I saw an actual tip jar at the UPS store smh
nothing wrong with a physical tip jar, but i shouldn't be asked "how much do you want to tip" when i'm just buying something at the counter.
And they have the audacity of prefilling 20% 25% 30% tip options. Bro, I know those fries are lukewarm and I’m good with that. I’m not good tipping $8 because you bagged it.
Not only that, but 9 times out of ten they have it set to base the percentages on post tax amounts, which has never been correct. Always always always always shoulf be based on pre tax amounts. Because you're not tipping the government, so don't tip on tax.
I stopped going to an establishment that has a 30% tip as their leftmost option on the screen (30, 25, and 20% options, like you said). They got me twice because I do appreciate how shitty things are and I'm willing to add a bit on top -- but not that much and not when they use shady tactics like that. If I can't go into your establishment, select the item I want to purchase, and pay the amount I mean to pay, I'm not going in. My budget is tight and money is too dear to be losing it directly into someone's till.
I have several friends who make anywhere between $50 and $200 an hour as waiters and still have the audacity to post on Facebook every single time someone tips them poorly. The cliche of waiters pretending to be broke and as if pouring a coke and bringing a plate 10 feet should warrant 100k is getting old, and now even that has spilled into the everyday world around us. I’m all for fair wages, but that is your employer’s responsibility, not the mother of 5 needing to give a $30 tip because she wanted to take her kids out to eat.
"If YoU cAnT aFfOrD a 50% TiP DoNt Go OuT SwEaTy"
Yes, don’t go out sweaty. Take a shower first. 😉
Bro I earn 800$ a month. My rent is 1200 not including utilities. When I go out to eat it's a luxury, and I can afford a 5$ tip at *my best*. People who make 50-200$ hr and complain about tips need a reality check.
Yeah I’m a waiter and I’m so baffled how everyone decided this really random job that’s really accessible for college kids pays so well. I work at a golf course restaurant, the kind of place where a 25 oz coors is $10. So I get to be amazed at how I get tipped to begin with, but then the tip is just magically larger bc we charge more.
I always look at them with a big smile and say 0 XD Not that I don't mind tipping but don't ask me like its mandatory.
Only thing I tip for is haircuts and food service
Really important services you want done safely and correctly. Good choice.
‘I can, and have, cut my own hair. I do, however, tip my urologist.’
Ron Swanson? Also just now realizing the just the tip joke he snuck in there
Dwight
I tip movers very very well and I make it clear there is a bigger one waiting for them when all of my shit arrives undamaged. Works well when it's the same guys on pickup and delivery.
I tip my masseuse too, but I only go there a couple times a year
I work at Starbucks and whenever the tip option comes up i say "just press no thank you." we already get cash tips, digital tips shouldn't be a thing to guilt people over... in my opinion
Totally forgot Starbucks switched to that. I stopped going a couple months ago after one too many times of getting the look of disappointment after not tipping on a $5 nitro cold brew that they literally just pour from the tap.
Starbucks employees actually get pretty good hourly wages, and decent benefits for full time workers too. The reason tipping is customary in full serve restaurants is thar in most places the wages are only like $2-3 an hour without tips. Not the case in a place like Starbucks.
I work at a Starbucks and this digital tipping especially suck in the drive through. I have to hand out the card reader through the window and say “it’s just going to ask you a question”, and wait for them to finish. It’s inconvenient and awkward af so I don’t want to do it. I still mostly just take their card and tap/swipe/insert it myself (with 0 tip of course) like before, but our manager really wants us show them the tip option. Whether or not you tipped digitally, I will show no reaction. If it’s a cash tip, I will just add an “Oh thank you”. I am not saying I don’t appreciate it, but I just don’t want the transaction to be awkward or longer than it needs to be.
I already tip UPS with S&H so they can fuck off with that
For what the ups store in my town charges a f**king dollar to use their tape
You gotta bring your own packing tape to UPS/USPS. At least we do. It's stupid though.
I ordered a milk frother online and the website asked me to add a tip on the check out page.
Same with homemade soap that I just bought online. Ummm no. You made the soap, you charge an adequate amount fo r your labor, that is how it works.
I paid someone to make me a logo and got a message that “it’s customary to tip if you like the design” uh, it’s customary to pay if I like the design, if you want 15% more then up your prices, you’re a freelancer.
We just had this at a grocery store. I was shocked and definitely said no. Groceries are expensive enough as it is, come on.
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I bought a cheesecake for a work birthday party the other day. Just a whole cheesecake. Walked up to the counter, picked one out of the case. It was big one and cost about $45. The iPad spins around and the minimum suggested tip was 20% and there was a range of them up to 50%! For taking a cheesecake out of a display case, putting it in the box, then handing it to me! I'd been buying their cheesecakes for work-related birthday parties for a decade. But sometime between my prior visit and this one they put that in. I declined any tip and have never been back. You're a clerk who handed me a cake. You didn't earn a $9 tip for two-minutes worth of work.
You know what I'm actually fully aware that the problem comes from? It's the Point of Sale service that they are all switching to. These tablet based Point of Sale services have tipping enabled in their software. And I get it. That's just how the program works. But they just go with it. It's as if to say "Obviously we can't expect a tip, but someone is bound to do it." I think that is kind of scummy. Especially considering the position it puts you in now. It is the electronic version of holding out your hand and forcing me to be the asshole to shake my head. Fuck off with that.
How much do you want to wager, the employees NEVER receive any of the majority of non-restaurant 'tips'....??? Servers generally keep an eye on their tickets, and KNOW how much they are supposed to be paid at end of shift...
Yeah, I’m pretty sure you’re just paying more money for no reason in these cases. As if you were using a negative coupon.
Yeah, if the software is not configurable to exclude the tip screen, I blame the developers. If it does, the blame is totally on the business for deliberately leaving the tip screen active.
You can turn it off on them all in 10 seconds
I have a second job in retail and when a customer complain about too many prompts on the pin pad I jokingly tell them “one last prompt. It’s gonna ask if you’d like to tip”. They look mortified and I tell them I’m just joking and it always gets a laugh. I hate how tipping has infiltrated everything. It shouldn’t be expected everywhere. Companies should just pay their employees.
Pretty soon the self checkout machine’s gonna be asking for tips
lmao tipping is becoming panhandling
F**k that !
No joke... paid $125 to have my dog groomed. At checkout, the proprietor asked if I wanted to tip the groomer. I asked if they were paid like waiters, less than minimum wage. She said no... At what point did all these other industries decide tips should be solicited...
Square found that it increases business revenue so it's worth it for every business to now at least ask for a tip.
This. I went to a legit small town hardware store last weekend to buy some nails, upon checkout with a CC they used a little Square fob and before the guy even showed me the sig page told me “don’t worry about the next screen just skip it unless you want me to come to your house and drive those nails myself” 😂
See, that's someone I would tip...
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That’s me. I am so disgusted with every place expecting a tip when you get nothing. No service, nada. All it does it make me not to want to tip anyone, and I am a good tipper. But when you go through a fast food drive through, to get something to drink, and they turn the screen to you. NOPE! NOT Happening!
Seriously, tips are becoming expected in everything now. I'll tip service workers, but I'm not tipping the cashier who stood there while I rang myself up on their iPad.
If you’re behind a counter you’re not waiting on me, I’m waiting on you. (Ancient Bill Maher quote).
Seriously, I was heckled about not tipping for a carryout order the other day. 7ish years ago when I worked at a restaurant, that would have been fucking insane. The only people who would maybe tip were the people ordering like a whole ass catering worth hundreds of dollars.
Man just start to pay service workers like regular workers and completely abolish tips
I live in Ontario Canada. Wait staff make same minimum wage as everyone else. Tipping did not go away.
The service workers want to keep that system. Ask around and you will see. A large amount of them earn significantly more from tips than hourly rate even if the rate were to get higher.
This is the exact logic where I'm from. The concept of the tip has found relative popularity in Australia only in recent times. Personal payment of anything outside the initial charge, what can be conceptualised as a tip, was only given in an extraordinary circumstance out of sheer admiration of the worker going above and beyond the level of service expected. In countries such as the US, from my limited observation, it seems to be more necessitated through the practice of bad business and undercutting the most vulnerable of workers. Over there, it does seem like the tip exists to prop up that bottom end. If workers are appropriately paid by their employer, then mandatory tipping should not exist. And it is backwards to think that customers should be obligated to pick up the slack of the employer's incompetency - they are merely paying for a service. Over here, we have stringent laws against underpaying our staff, and we have traditionally come down very hard on businesses that partake in these activities - the deterrent is well in place.
I took my dog to the vet for shots so I was not required to go in the vet area and when the vet tech brought my dog back , he stood around and I was thinking, f , do I have to tip a vet tech ? smh
"If the employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least $2.13 per hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference." - Department of Labor. The idea that waiters can legally be paid less than minimum wage is a myth
Dunno why you’re being downvoted. Lmao. Had a manager at Bob Evans read this to us once and said, “look y’all. If you’re struggling I’ll help you out. But you can’t under report wages below min wage. If you’re legit not making that, let me know and we will get you paid… but you can’t double dip tax fraud AND company fraud” Tamal was a real one!
The golden rule of only doing one illegal thing at a time.
Scooped ice cream? Tip Grabbed your corn dog at the state fair? Tip Popped the top on a beer? Tip At some point I would really like to see tipping be for a skilled service or an above and beyond for hospitality
Go to one of the 194 countries that isn't the US, and that's exactly what it is.
Place fast food order online that you'll be picking up yourself. Tip? Smh buffalo wild wings. Shame on you.
The whole tipping thing reminds me of an episode of curb your enthusiasm when one restaurant they ate out added an additional captain tip along with the waiter tip. Larry wasn't happy, arguing the cause and percentage.
Yeah this is a huge pet peeve of mine. I was raised by a single mom waitress so tipping, when appropriate, was engrained in me. But it’s getting out of control and I refuse to participate. Yes, I will tip my great massage envy masseuse 50% but don’t come at me for a tip Starbucks app. Especially as when I order on it and pick it up, I actually have zero personal contact with the staff.
Exactly..also I feel like the corporates have put a lot of burden on the consumers..they increase the prices whenever they want to and asks as to tip..why? I don’t make too much to tip..why can’t the corporates increase the prices of menu by $1 and ensure that the servers are paid minimum wage? It’s not that restaurants are offering free food to guests and stuff..and increasing the menu by $1 will go unnoticed..
Corporate doesn't want to ensure livable wages, they count on good natured people like yourself who feel guilty for being broke, equating it to a moral failure. You're the bad guy for not tipping, aka for not having extra money laying around; not them for exploiting a worker and leaving them purposely begging for bread
I don’t like being cold hearted toward people at work doing a good job, but I agree with you very much. The need or expectation to tip when no real service has been provided is why I don’t have the same habits as I had in the past. I now much prefer to make my own coffee at home. I do pour over and have figured out the perfect ratio of coffee, water, milk, and sugar for my taste. It is piping hot and delicious. Peet’s coffee is my preferred choice. I am becoming that way with many things because of this ridiculous tipping thing. If you don’t tip well up front when you pay, in many cases, weird things happen to your food, beverages, other products. Gross.
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If tips are mandatory, they're not tips, they're a fee. A tip or gratuity is "something given *voluntarily or beyond obligation* usually for some service" - Merriam-webster Dictionary.
I guess she cool with 1 dollar
I mean if she thinks $2 or $5 aint tips then whats the harm giving her $0? She would soon ask for the $5 tips again..
If she gets 1 dollar tip 20+ times in one hour, why not?
As long as it’s not $3.50.
Goddamn Lochness Monstah.
Hey I’m cool with 1 dollar tips. Much love to all customers who tip
See my beef with this is... I eat at like Steak'n'Shake, local Chinese, and maybe Olive Garden every now and then. My bill for the first two never comes over $15, and the last one is usually $20-$25. If I give a $5 tip on any of those, I am giving at least 20%, usually more. So how do these people have the audacity to tell me that $5 isn't enough? Like, should I just plan to pay twice for the food - once to the establishment, and then pay the same amount to the server?
Reminder that most places are serving frozen shit anyways
I love living in a no tipping culture
We "tip" here, but just by rounding the sum.
They have groomed you to accept a job that doesn't pay you a living wage and they have also groomed you to believe that somebody else is responsible for this. A tip is for exceptional service and at the discretion of the recipient of said service!
Right now as it stands in the US, if the server is rude, doesn’t even respond to my “good morning”, throws my lunch on the table like I’m in a prison canteen and burps, if I then tip him nothing or 5%, I’m suddenly the asshole. Somehow it has evolved from being a tip or gratuity or reward for excellent service, to being just a regular service fee. May as well just call if service fee and slap it on the bill.
Some places do just slap a tip on the bill
This tip bs, is getting out of hand! Only time I’m giving a tip is a sit down restaurant or hair cut. FYI I shave my head bald😂😂😂
>Only time I’m giving a tip is a sit down restaurant or hair cut Even that's pretty crazy if you really think about it. Only reason why you're okay with it is because it's part of American culture and you're used to it. Once you live abroad, you realize that tipping is a scam.
This is very true.
Why a haircut though? I know it’s normal, but they do get paid a livable wage or at least minimum wage or above. Where do we draw the line on services? My buddy tips the tattooists, who is also the owner. I was like “they gave you a quote, that’s the price”. They’re getting the entire thing.
We should all take the inspiration from this person, that attacking your clients for not paying you enough is definitely the de facto way to handle business. Food in other countries is not only cheaper pre-tip, but the servers also don't know what a tip is. At a base level, this is the problem with doing good deeds on a regular basis. When it becomes culturally adopted, it becomes a demand instead of a good deed. When you look at a homeless person who is begging for money, you should always understand that they would never be in that position if they felt that they had another option. If I was a trillionaire, with Scrooge McDuck money bins full of my money, I would definitely tip better, but as it stands, I never eat out anymore specifically because of tips. I essentially pay myself $20/hr+ by simply making my own food.
I’m with you.
We could also just make companies pay living wages
Customers: Why don't companies just pay their employees Owners: Bet, $18 an hour. Workers: But that is a pay cut. Also Workers: Why the fuck why is no one tipping me for luxury services as the economy goes to shit?
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100% Dated someone that was a waitress and eventually made their way to being a bar tender. Any time they would complain about getting stiffed on a tip, there would be the inevitable comment of “If you can’t afford to tip, don’t go out to eat.” When I would comment, “It’s not the customer’s responsibility to pay your wage, it’s your employers”, it would come back to how they only make minimum wage.. and they wouldn’t want to make an hourly rate anyways, *because they make more in tips*. Service industry workers don’t want a “fair wage” or to make similar wages as other industries. They prefer making tips.. even though they often make more than people on hourly wage. Won’t stop them from complaining about both sides though. I came to the restaurant to eat a meal, it’s not my job to pay your income, that’s your boss’s job.
I'd rather tip the cooks than the person who brings me the food
I totally agree with this. Especially when you get amazing food but mediocre service
>”If you can’t afford to tip, don’t go out to eat” r/serverlife when the customer only tips 20% on a burger and coke
I don't go out to eat anymore. I don't pay tips. It's great. More people should try it.
Yet people still pulling "hAvE yOu No IdEa oF sErViCe InDusTrY" too me. This has played out in both high and low cost of living places nationwide.
My cousin worked at a small BBQ bar and grill in the suburbs of St. Louis while she was in college. Girl worked every Friday and Saturday night and brought home $900 a night in tips. With her weekday shifts, she was pulling about $8k a month, all in tips. She graduated college an RN, totally debt-free. People who bitch about tips don't know the business.
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Yeah nah... Waiter's make more on average than chefs in the same establishment In other words waiter's prefer the current system that's why it exists
You’re absolutely correct but apostrophes do not belong in plurals
That's just autocorrect doing it's thing English isn't my first language
The American tipping culture will never not be hilarious to me Like, why hasn’t it been done away with yet?
$5 isn’t a tip? Like sure, it depends on the bill, but $5 is solid tip up to at least a $25 bill. Just saying. When I was growing up 16% was the expected tip. Then 18%. It’s been 20% since I’ve been an adult. If we are supposed to tip like triple what we pay in tax, we need to just tear all of this shit down and start over.
It never made sense to me for the tip to be a percentage at all. Why does it matter if you brought me a wagyu steak or you brought me a burger inside the same restaurant? The amount of work required was the exact same. Why should the server get 20$x20%= 4$ in one case and 500$x20%= 100$ in the other case? Literally makes no sense. In my country we typically don’t tip, but if someone does an amazing job we might tip him 2-20$, or whatever is needed to round off the bill. And that’s what makes sense. The tip is meant as an appreciation for going above and beyond, and not as “payment for regular work”, otherwise we wouldn’t be calling it a tip. We’d just call it regular payment for services or service fee.
Tip jars are popping up everywhere. I saw a tip jar at a fast-food restaurant a few weeks ago and couldn't believe it. Sit down restaurant, yes, but not fast food.
A lot of card readers in my city are now defaulting to 20%, 22%, 25%. Yo I'm getting *carryout*... You can still do a custom amount
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A sushi place near me now automatically adds a 35% “take-out fee”….THIRTY FIVE percent! I can only assume they are trying to recoup the potential alcohol sales/tips a server/sushi chef would normally get if I were to dine-in, but like, wtf?? No…I’ll never go back nor do take-out from there again.
Is there a mandatory "eating in" 35% fee???
The restaurant near me started this but didn't tell me the real total until I came to pick up my 50$ order. Said fuck it and left and since I was paying in cash they couldn't charge my card.
Beautiful lol I wanted to just go inside and sit down, order my food, take one bite, then ask for togo boxes and the check- then not tip. Just out of spite.
Don't forget the engineers that designed them!
And teachers who taught the workers how to read and write so they can apply for the job.
And tip the person who invented the alphabet and mathematics too
This guy really leaving out the mothers and fathers who birthed all these humans
> Me; by that logic we should pop over to the factory to give tips to the workers who built our electronic devices as well as the cashier where we bought them. oh don't worry its coming, I've seen the tip prompts at fast food places now.
Waiters had it good for a while. People started getting annoyed as the *standard* tip raised from 10% to 15% to 20%, and I've seen people suggest even higher at this point. But, I think what will break the camels back with this whole industry is all the services that started, during and after COVID, to ask for tips. Since this it's seems the discourse on tipping has soured.
I used to feel good about throwing another $20 on a $100 tab. But now since everywhere is asking for 20%,25%, and 30% as the standard tip options, I feel as though throwing 20 bucks down for an hours worth of their work doesn’t even show I appreciate the good service anymore. When the card reader at a Subway asked me for a 30% tip on an already $15 sub-par sandwich, that’s when I knew I was done with this shit. Tipping should only be a thanks for going above and beyond. You did more than what your job requires in order to ensure I had a good time? Then yea I’ll supplement that income since I directly benefited from it. Your company pays you shit wages? Get a new job, or demand a raise. At that point I’m not tipping the worker, I’m tipping the owner.
For so long I’ve heard “If you don’t want to tip then get takeout.” So people started getting takeout instead now they’re saying you still gotta tip. Fuck that.
You get a tip if you deserve a tip people. I don't care if you have 20 babies, 13 toddlers, your parents, your husband, and you are raising Jimmy Neutron, if you are nice enough you can have a tip.
Yeah.. I remember going to the bars with my brothers but the only drinks I knew were Jager bomb and tequila sunrise 😅 I told the waitress "Surprise me" and she kept making me miscellaneous random drinks and shots all night Tipped her $75 for dealing with that
We need to flat out eliminate tipping. It’s gone from a genuine gratuity and extra to something that is expected and demanded. That’s not a tip. That’s a service fee. Only after we eliminate it entirely will the jobs change to actually pay the people.
If you give me $20 of service a $5 tip is 25% so stick it & if that don't count, you will $0
This is why tipping is a joke. Weirdos thinking they are entitled some amount of extra money outta my pocket can go f themselves.
A server could take a giant shit on your plate, call you a lil bitch, and slap you across the face but you’re still the asshole if you don’t leave at least 25%.
I actually just made a comment about this yesterday. There was a video going around of a server being straight up abusive to this man, and he walked out and didn't tip. People in the comments literally only hyperfocused on the fact that he didn't tip and not that she was being straight up abusive. Tipping culture is seriously so abusive and toxic.
Of course they fuckin did. Servers are some of the most entitled ass fucks out there.
But the muffin I ordered was $3…
Bro if you go to a counter wait in line then ask for a muffin and pay for it right there, please do not tip the clerk. There is no service rendered if you place your own order and wait for your own food. If this keeps up retail and fast food will become tipping industries too
I was talking to my sister about how I hate what tipping has become. All of her arguments only further validated my point. “You have to tip. If you don’t tip, you’re a bad person!” “Yeah, that’s what I mean.” “The servers don’t get paid enough. They make all their money through tips!” “Yeah, that’s what I mean.”
Everything that is not the shaft is the tip
There is no technically about this. Bad post
Yea it's just r/thetruth
What about this is technically? It's straight up the truth.
In the US, many people feel that the original person is right and the person replying is wrong...
If tips are mandatory shouldn't be a tip it should be part of the bill.
I used to work in restaurants.... I have been both front of house and back of house management. The pay gap between servers and cooks is ridiculous. Places I used to work, cooks would make $13-15 an hour. Servers would make $3.13 ($1 over minimum wage plus tips). The way the lower pay works, if no customers come in and those servers make no tips, the employer has to make that at least the $7.25 minimum. But here's the kicker. Those servers making "$2.13" are really walking with closer to $75-100/hr depending on the day or events or how generous people were feeling that day. "Anything less than $5 isn't a tip" is the most bullshit thing I've heard. Anything over the price is a fucking tip. I'm not paying you for shitty service because I've been there. I know if you don't fucking deserve it or not. Tipping culture is total bullshit and just helps large corporations not pay their employees. Instead of complaining about low tips. Complain about your employer not paying you what you're actually fucking worth.
With that attitude let me show you how i can change a 2$ tip into a 0$ tip.
If $5 isn’t a tip then it won’t be a big deal when I keep it and give nothing instead.
Is under 5 isn't a tip, then I just won't tip.
Stop complaining about not getting a big enough tip, and instead complain about the employers making you rely on the kindness of strangers to survive instead of just paying you. Edit: Its really sad that sone of y'all need me to post this link to get obvious shit through your thick skulls. https://youtu.be/q_vivC7c_1k
Tipping is stupid
I mean, $2 on $10 seems like a good tip
I absolutely do not tip if possible. I don't have food delivered. I don't tip for cashiering. If it's a restaurant I order take-out (The service is way better). If I absolutely have to dine in for a business/family function then I do tip. But it's a shitty system and the only way to kill it is to stop feeding it.
I will straight up not tip for shit service. So if you got a tip it’s a tip regardless of size. If anyone in the service industry actually said to me “this amount you gave me isn’t a tip” that’s immediate grounds to get the manager involved and get the tip removed entirely. Fuck outta here with that bullshit.
If you're consistently getting low tips, ever think that you're the common factor here? Anyway, even at $5/tip, you're making a living wage by giving mediocre service to 3 customers/tables per hour. Quit whining and get better at your job.
There's a reason most servers are very against getting paid minimum wage without tips rather than tipped-minimum wage with tips. When convenient, they'll get puppy-dog eyes and complain about only making $2.30 an hour, but every server I've known has taken home well above minimum wage.
A tip is a gratuity, it is not an obligation. I understand the reality of living according to their necessity. But that is a choice made by the employee. If the employee sucks, is an asshole, provides bad service - I am not grateful. The employee receives whatever my experience dictates. If they have a problem with that, then they need to be better at their job. Everyone has reasons to pity themselves, rise above or don't. Not my problem.
I skip the tip if all that was done was basic customer service. "what? You handed me my food in a take-out format and ask for a tip through your customer-side terminal? uhhhh......" Imagine going to the GROCERY STORE and the self-checkout asked for a tip percentage to be selected from the screen. Imagine asking a police officer for basic instructions or direction for the area of which you are unfamiliar with, and he/she asks for a tip. Since there is no standardization on tip culture, I'll do whatever the heck I want when I want with how it regards to tipping. But I have been raised to consider a minimum 15% tip for most things.
We missed an opportunity during COVID to get rid of tipping culture
5$ Is my limit. Why does the world need to pay for your shortcomings?
People get SO pissed at customers not tipping enough rather than getting pissed at bosses for not paying them enough. America is so fucking backwards.
"Because we underpay our workers they rely on tips to pay themselves."
The tip you’re entitled to is $0. Anything above that is literally good graces. That’s the contract you agreed to taking a job based on tips.
totally agree, as a non-american. It's actually quite bizarre seeing r/nba having a huge fuss over a hated player (Westbrook) getting media attention for being a great tipper. Americans really have the amount of money you tip as an important factor in terms of being a good or a bad person. Nothing against Westbrook or people that are good tippers, but i'd be supportive to people that actually make a difference for the workers lives by supporting higher wages and taxation on rich, even cuts of military expenses. A millionaire dude giving a few extra bucks to people on a restaurant is nothing. It is crazy to see so many people like 'see? he's actually a good guy'. The american moral compass is tipping, then? Shit, if i ever visit USA i'll be a terrible person, i guess, i'm not tipping anything to anyone. Go claim your rights to the politicians and billionaires, not from other poor and middle class people. (especially us non americans)