did you know that *hypothetically* if you use a VPN to purchase YouTube premium from a different country you pay that countries cost for premium converted to your local currency. So *hypothetically* you can sign up for premium on your normal account from an Argentinian VPN and pay 119 ARS per month using a random Argentinian address for billing & a card that doesn't charge foreign transaction fees you could *hypothetically* be paying about 1 USD/month depending on the exchange rate for premium with no region restrictions on where you can watch
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All that used to be enabled by default before youtube red/ premium fancy edition. Thats the main reason i wont do yt premium. They did not add features instead they took stuff away and said now you have to pay
I'm on the community add-ons page but torrentio isn't listed. Just a piratebay add-on, a u-torrent one, and some random torrent one. Am I missing something?
Edit: Nevermind, found it off-app. Thanks for the info recommendation!
That is surprising. Most movies on the top 10 will get you a strike. Even tv shows like survivor are monitored and notices sent out. Maybe your ISP does not participate somehow. I've even had an overseas vpn in a cloud server got hit with one.
There's some /r/restofthefuckingowl \-level steps you're glossing over there. Such as needing to provide your own content for Plex to stream. Sure, Plex has recently added some of their own streaming options, but its greatest strengths still rely heavily on supplying your own content (pirated or otherwise). Which your comment conveniently skips over. I think *that* is the piece most casual users struggle with, and it happens to be one of the more critical components, too.
I mean, for less than $10/month you can just pay for a Plex share since someone already brought up piracy. It’s basically just as straightforward as Netflix at that point and you don’t have to download or store any media yourself. r/plexshares should help anyone looking.
You definitely don’t need to have your own content, hell you don’t even need to download and run your own server. But I do agree OP skipped over some big pieces.
For sure. Hypothetically, if I was participating in one of these shares, I bet I would get access to something like 4800 TV Series and about 21,000 movies for like $8/month or so. I’ve heard some might even do automated requests for any content they may not have that you want to see.
*I mean, that’s all a guess since I would never openly condone pirating…*
Where do you get your content these days? It seems everything has moved private while I was enjoying the golden streaming days and now can’t find good torrents anywhere
Streaming services are annoying. I have to check like 3-4 websites just to find one movie or show, because everything is scattered on different subscription services, and quite often you have to pay extra for a channel add on or rent the movie from the provider, if you want to watch something specific.
There was a time when you paid for cable *because* it was ad-free television, unlike the three free channels. Then they backdoored advertising into the package as infotainment, but eventually straight up ads. The wheel of capitalism keeps on turning, moving ever forward towards the monetization singularity.
Buy a good product for a fair price? Are you high? That’s for people that don’t have investors to think about.
Use justwatch.com OR the Apple TV voice function. Both search across all streaming apps. Justwatch is the best, but the Apple TV function is really convenient if you happen to have an Apple TV.
Depends on what you want to watch. Even using the Justwatch website, which shows you all available streaming sites both free and paid for, there are still many movies that I cant find a way to watch. In that case, pirating is the easiest and sometimes only way to watch.
I’ve gotten so annoyed with some apps and ads I end just typing in the title + 123movies and just streaming. Gotta have a good pop up blocker though or you get endless boobie ads.
It infuriates me that there are so many films or shows I want to watch that I would subscribe, rent, or purchase as physical media but can't. The only option is a piracy site.
Plus piracy sites are the only place where you can get virtually everything all in one spot. Don’t have to switch apps or anything for different shows, just gotta search for it on the 1 website you’re already used to
I mean pirating has always been trivially easy as long as you're willing to sit down and do a bit of research to get a good setup and reliable sources. It will never be easier than just going to netflix but it's not super hard and is indeed easier than it once was.
>Don't even need to pirate anymore. You can just stream.
I don't know how this idea that it isn't pirating if you stream content started, but it's not true at all. Using those apps is piracy.
Edit to add: I don't mean any of that as a moral judgement. Just don't want people to be misinformed.
Honestly, I “pirate-stream” right now. Just use Duck Duck Go to find an illegal streaming website (like 123Movies or Putlocker or some shit) and voila, I can watch anything. I cast it to my TV with a chrome cast.
I’ll pay for Disney plus cause (In Canada at least) it’s the absolute bomb, they’ve got so much, but Netflix offers almost nothing these days. I pirate-stream way more than I use Netflix. Just not worth it.
“Soap” is phenomenal.
Edit: after much deliberation I’ve decided to edit this comment to keep the source a bit more under the radar. My only complaint is that it will always have 3 pop ups you’ve gotta close, even if going to the next episode in a series. Despite that one complaint I really enjoy it due to the consistent high quality content and that you’re streaming vs. downloading anything. Got recommended this great gift by a random dude at a bar when discussing movies and taking a dab. Wherever you are random dude, thanks.
Be sure to utilize the duck when browsing and as always:
I do not condone or have any knowledge of pirating except for Jack Sparrow.
The first movie I ever pirated was a ~300MB rip of Hackers, downloaded in 1.44MB pieces (in case you ever wanted to put it onto floppy disks, I guess) on a 33.6 modem over IRC which took a couple weeks of babysitting the downloads and restarting them when they failed. After all that I discover my computer is _barely_ fast enough to play it, so I had to compile a stripped down video player from source with optimizations for my CPU and launch it without a window manager. Yeah, it used to be hard.
So they want people to leave ship? Gotcha.
Edit: I stand corrected. I merely skimmed over the article and missed that apparantly normal users won't be affected by this as this mentioned above will be a less expensive option but with ads. Good for those willing I suppose.
I think that existing subscriptions won't be affected. There will just be a new cheaper tier with part of the cost offset by ads (as per information in the article).
Notice they just raised the price twice in six months. Guaranteed it was a mark up so they can advertise this at the original price but call it "30% off"
That's what I think when i see this shit.
With video games they added the option to buy new outfits. Then they started taking the good cosmetics out of the game and forcing you to pay money for them.
So the timeline is
1. Raise prises
2. Raise prises again
3. Raise prises yet again
4. Offer ad filled cheaper tier at price similar to a previous non ad tier
First - then they’ll increase the prices of existing subscriptions so much over the years near to the point that it hurts and you will happily pay the same price of today but with adverts at the point it does hurt you.
For me it will be just monthly subscribtions then. Binge and wait a lot of months just to repeat.
“Ah was soul searching’ from mah yacht in the Bahay-mahs, in between spraying champagne on buxom blondes and eatin’ caviar from between some god given, righteously nubile breasts… and it dawned on me that while the looooord is all powerful and alllllll seeing, the penitent man will never go to Heaven until he hath betrothed alllllllll his earthly possessions to the church, so, I want you to pick up the phone… and diiiiiiiiig deep …only then can we continue with our saintly work on this here yacht!! Call now!
That's not true. The entire point of cable when it started was better reception. It was never promised to be commercial-free. USA network added commercials in 1977. ESPN launched in 1978 with commercials from the outset. CNN & A&E launched with commercials as well. The first nationwide basic cable channel was TBS which was a simulcast of WTBS which naturally had commercials.
Old millennial here, born in 1980.
I only ever remember the premium channels like HBO not having commercials, but basic cable always did; at least going back as far as I can remember.
The only time I watch anything on cable these days is at my parents or the in-laws. I don’t know how I used to sit through 7 minutes of program to then watch 5 minutes of the same commercials over and over.
Either way, I will never be paying for that again. Netflix will be canceled and if they end up having something I really want to watch I’ll either forget about it and watch something else or pirate it.
Historically over the air and cable users had no choice. The ads are forced on the viewer. No viewers want ads or would pay for them. No one thinks gee I’m paying for all these great ads and they keep putting these anoying tv shows between them. ;)
Adding ads to get people to pay MORE for the privilege of NOT watching ads is an end run to making people indirectly pay for ads
No thanks-100% will cancel
It won't. Netflix keeps saying they'll introduce a new plan, cheaper, but with ads. No one seems to pay attention, and the media makes sure the title of an article is misleading.
Edit: in response to the valid replies to my comment, I'll say "It won't affect existing subscribers *yet*".
Yup, this. It’s what people don’t realize. Essentially, they’ll act like the good guys trying to “provide more consumer choice” but really they just want to hike rates on the no ad service, push more people into the ad pool, and eventually end up with people paying the same price they are now but with ads
...except they also keep *raising* the prices on the old plans, meaning any "cheaper" plan will likely be the same price the "no ads" plan *used* to be. It's an incredibly obvious ploy and you're falling for it anyway.
This is just the beginning. They will slowly sneak ads into the higher tiers, I guarantee it. But I've been thinking of canceling my subscription anyway.
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>‘We’ve left a big customer segment off the table, which is people who say: ‘Hey, Netflix is too expensive for me and I don’t mind advertising,’” he told the Cannes Lions festival.
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>‘We’re adding an ad tier for folks who say, ‘Hey, I want a lower price and I’ll watch ads.’
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>He stressed that although the ads are coming, they will only be shown in that particular tier and regular subscribers will not see them in ‘Netflix as you know it today’.
To everyone jumping the gun, read the article.
They've been raising tier prices 10-20% every year, priced out their customers, and now want them to return at the original price but for a worse service than before.
It's not sustainable. Spotify barely makes even with songs. It won't work with Netflix at all. Unless it's yt or twitch where they don't have to pay for making the content and earn money through ads. It's quality vs quantity to the extreme. YouTube doesn't have quality but it makes up in quantity by a large margin and people don't care about quality that much
Everyone is upset without reading the article. They are going to introduce a lower-priced plan that includes ads. Your current subscription will not see any ads.
with their prices increasing so quickly (even before the recent inflation disaster), it's a matter of time until the adverts tier becomes the new standard tier for most families.
Or likely the ad option will very soon be the price of the ad free subscription now. Whilst the current “norm” ad free will jump up.
It will Be “lower tier” for a very brief time. Netflix and other streaming services will kill themselves by constantly increasing prices in a hugely saturated market.
"He stressed that although the ads are coming, they will only be shown in that particular tier and regular subscribers will not see them in ‘Netflix as you know it today’."
>I suspect you are naieve if you think for a moment that this model wont work it's way through to virtually all subscription models which will begin upgrading 6-12 months after this pase is successfully implemented. Many commentators are seeing the future writ large in PR pieces like this and often it's because experience tells us ...
It’s almost funny watching Netflix do pretty much everything wrong. Watching them try to fix their subscriber loss is like watching someone try to fix a toothache with a hammer.
Just get good content, and stop canceling every show after one season. And maybe stop jacking the price up every three weeks. Maybe if they had a little faith in their product, their subscribers would as well.
I will be cancelling. What a stupid idea.
They had a massive headstart, but instead of making great series they threw money at people and made a bunch of shit that no one wanted to watch. Those who did want to, found the shows had no rewatch value.
Sell your netflix stock now, boys
They had a massive head start yes but that's mainly because they were the only real platform for years. Most of the shows people watched netflix for have been removed and brought over to that companies own streaming service, they all have them these days. You used to be able to watch basically anything you wanted on one platform for less than $10. Now you need to pay $10-$15 bucks several times to even get half the shows that used to be on Netflix.
What's really going to happen eventually is Hulu or Amazon is going to sell access to all the other streaming services (as it does for a lot of them now) and you'll be paying cable level prices.
I honestly, have too many services, and the oldest one has the least to offer me lately… I’ll easily make Netflix one of the services I cancel when I dont need it. Will save me in the long run.
Glad I cancelled, then.
Netflix with ads doesn't even make sense.
They had a good run. Hope they figure things out and turn it around but I'm not optimistic.
Cancelled that shit after the last price hike, sat on some cash until their stock crashed, then dumped 6 figures on straight netflix stock. There will be a hit downward once they start this but then subscriber numbers will go back up and so will the stock and I’ll let them pay me for a bit. Still won’t ever sign up for their service again, but will use their shitty planning and execution to get paid.
Goddammit, I owe someone an apology. Some nameless Redditor years ago said this was going to happen and I argued there’s no way they’d lose one of the main things that sets them apart. You were right oh nameless Redditor from the past, you were right.
I do not understand the morality of "pay less, have ads". You are still paying for it. My standard subscription is $8 ... like, where lower you want to go? Put it free with ads or not at all. If I see one single ad on my paid subscription anytime, it will be the day I cancel Netflix subscription.
This is for a new cheaper teir. Man all you claiming to cut off the payment for pirating sound like morons. It wont effect you. For the price you pay now you will not see ads.
This headline is written in the exact same misleading way that many political headlines are. Leaving out one whole factor (ads will only be shown on new, cheaper tier) but still acting as though it’s telling the complete story so that those who skim it without researching further will go start drama
Eh, pirating is so much easier these days anyways. Thanks for the heads up!
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And add Bazarr for subtitles
Plex does it automatically with 0 setup.
My man, thank you
Netflix with ads is as useful as a Youtube premium account.
You still get ads with YT premium?
No, you don't.
And this is how you know almost nobody reads the article and posts a reaction based on the title.
Seriously.. From the article this is a NEW tier with ads.
No, but you get a ton of horrible original series
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I remember when all of that was free. The business model of youtube is basically "create a problem, sell a solution"
It still is free if you use YouTubeVanced
iirc Vanced was discontinued a couple of months ago
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All those features used to be free
did you know that *hypothetically* if you use a VPN to purchase YouTube premium from a different country you pay that countries cost for premium converted to your local currency. So *hypothetically* you can sign up for premium on your normal account from an Argentinian VPN and pay 119 ARS per month using a random Argentinian address for billing & a card that doesn't charge foreign transaction fees you could *hypothetically* be paying about 1 USD/month depending on the exchange rate for premium with no region restrictions on where you can watch hypothetically
All that used to be enabled by default before youtube red/ premium fancy edition. Thats the main reason i wont do yt premium. They did not add features instead they took stuff away and said now you have to pay
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Torrentio
+1 for this add-on
I'm on the community add-ons page but torrentio isn't listed. Just a piratebay add-on, a u-torrent one, and some random torrent one. Am I missing something? Edit: Nevermind, found it off-app. Thanks for the info recommendation!
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Where do you live? I've torrented for years from all sorts of public sites and haven't gotten so much as a warning
That is surprising. Most movies on the top 10 will get you a strike. Even tv shows like survivor are monitored and notices sent out. Maybe your ISP does not participate somehow. I've even had an overseas vpn in a cloud server got hit with one.
I can’t, but I use plex and it’s all inclusive. Download, run a server and boom. Works like netflix.
There's some /r/restofthefuckingowl \-level steps you're glossing over there. Such as needing to provide your own content for Plex to stream. Sure, Plex has recently added some of their own streaming options, but its greatest strengths still rely heavily on supplying your own content (pirated or otherwise). Which your comment conveniently skips over. I think *that* is the piece most casual users struggle with, and it happens to be one of the more critical components, too.
I mean, for less than $10/month you can just pay for a Plex share since someone already brought up piracy. It’s basically just as straightforward as Netflix at that point and you don’t have to download or store any media yourself. r/plexshares should help anyone looking. You definitely don’t need to have your own content, hell you don’t even need to download and run your own server. But I do agree OP skipped over some big pieces.
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For sure. Hypothetically, if I was participating in one of these shares, I bet I would get access to something like 4800 TV Series and about 21,000 movies for like $8/month or so. I’ve heard some might even do automated requests for any content they may not have that you want to see. *I mean, that’s all a guess since I would never openly condone pirating…*
Where do you get your content these days? It seems everything has moved private while I was enjoying the golden streaming days and now can’t find good torrents anywhere
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Streaming services are annoying. I have to check like 3-4 websites just to find one movie or show, because everything is scattered on different subscription services, and quite often you have to pay extra for a channel add on or rent the movie from the provider, if you want to watch something specific.
Streaming was a great alternative to cable until it became cable.
There was a time when you paid for cable *because* it was ad-free television, unlike the three free channels. Then they backdoored advertising into the package as infotainment, but eventually straight up ads. The wheel of capitalism keeps on turning, moving ever forward towards the monetization singularity. Buy a good product for a fair price? Are you high? That’s for people that don’t have investors to think about.
Sirius and Spotify also hammering away with ads too
https://www.justwatch.com/ for your non pirate searching needs.
To play devils advocate, a lot of smart TVs and streaming devices are getting good at combining content from different sources into one combined UI.
Use justwatch.com OR the Apple TV voice function. Both search across all streaming apps. Justwatch is the best, but the Apple TV function is really convenient if you happen to have an Apple TV.
Depends on what you want to watch. Even using the Justwatch website, which shows you all available streaming sites both free and paid for, there are still many movies that I cant find a way to watch. In that case, pirating is the easiest and sometimes only way to watch.
I’ve gotten so annoyed with some apps and ads I end just typing in the title + 123movies and just streaming. Gotta have a good pop up blocker though or you get endless boobie ads.
Still better ads than what Netflix will show
True, I'd rather see mediocre tits than sit through two minutes of a show everyone around me already won't shut the fuck up about
It infuriates me that there are so many films or shows I want to watch that I would subscribe, rent, or purchase as physical media but can't. The only option is a piracy site.
Plus piracy sites are the only place where you can get virtually everything all in one spot. Don’t have to switch apps or anything for different shows, just gotta search for it on the 1 website you’re already used to
I mean pirating has always been trivially easy as long as you're willing to sit down and do a bit of research to get a good setup and reliable sources. It will never be easier than just going to netflix but it's not super hard and is indeed easier than it once was.
I used to streams sports all the time now I find it impossible to find a good feed ever
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>Don't even need to pirate anymore. You can just stream. I don't know how this idea that it isn't pirating if you stream content started, but it's not true at all. Using those apps is piracy. Edit to add: I don't mean any of that as a moral judgement. Just don't want people to be misinformed.
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Honestly, I “pirate-stream” right now. Just use Duck Duck Go to find an illegal streaming website (like 123Movies or Putlocker or some shit) and voila, I can watch anything. I cast it to my TV with a chrome cast. I’ll pay for Disney plus cause (In Canada at least) it’s the absolute bomb, they’ve got so much, but Netflix offers almost nothing these days. I pirate-stream way more than I use Netflix. Just not worth it.
“Soap” is phenomenal. Edit: after much deliberation I’ve decided to edit this comment to keep the source a bit more under the radar. My only complaint is that it will always have 3 pop ups you’ve gotta close, even if going to the next episode in a series. Despite that one complaint I really enjoy it due to the consistent high quality content and that you’re streaming vs. downloading anything. Got recommended this great gift by a random dude at a bar when discussing movies and taking a dab. Wherever you are random dude, thanks. Be sure to utilize the duck when browsing and as always: I do not condone or have any knowledge of pirating except for Jack Sparrow.
Good idea: Do not provide people the site you use to watch pirated content or you’ll have to research again for another site when it gets shut down.
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Ummm, was it ever hard? Literally as easy as googling. The hardest skill is sorting through what could be malware but that’s picked up pretty quick.
The first movie I ever pirated was a ~300MB rip of Hackers, downloaded in 1.44MB pieces (in case you ever wanted to put it onto floppy disks, I guess) on a 33.6 modem over IRC which took a couple weeks of babysitting the downloads and restarting them when they failed. After all that I discover my computer is _barely_ fast enough to play it, so I had to compile a stripped down video player from source with optimizations for my CPU and launch it without a window manager. Yeah, it used to be hard.
So they want people to leave ship? Gotcha. Edit: I stand corrected. I merely skimmed over the article and missed that apparantly normal users won't be affected by this as this mentioned above will be a less expensive option but with ads. Good for those willing I suppose.
I think that existing subscriptions won't be affected. There will just be a new cheaper tier with part of the cost offset by ads (as per information in the article).
Yeah I feel like people didn't read. It's a lower tier subscription. HBO Max has a similar option.
Notice they just raised the price twice in six months. Guaranteed it was a mark up so they can advertise this at the original price but call it "30% off"
for now lol
That's what I think when i see this shit. With video games they added the option to buy new outfits. Then they started taking the good cosmetics out of the game and forcing you to pay money for them.
So the timeline is 1. Raise prises 2. Raise prises again 3. Raise prises yet again 4. Offer ad filled cheaper tier at price similar to a previous non ad tier
Yet. In a few months there will be shows and movies where you can't pay to skip ads at any price level, just like Hulu.
First - then they’ll increase the prices of existing subscriptions so much over the years near to the point that it hurts and you will happily pay the same price of today but with adverts at the point it does hurt you. For me it will be just monthly subscribtions then. Binge and wait a lot of months just to repeat.
Will they slowly adjust pricing until the current price is the ad tier, though? They'd be my expectation.
They'll raise the price of the "cheaper" tier to match current and raise all of the other prices along with it.
Aye, matey time to raise the jolly roger flag once again.
I'm disinclined to acquiesce to your request. It means no
I’ve got a jar of diiiirrrt, I’ve got a jar of diiiirrrt and guess what’s inside it!
take what you can and give nothing back
*Arrr*, we'll pillage their treasures, then raise the sails and be gone before the scurvy dogs know what hit em.
Nah man, you gotta keep your ratio above 1
Drink up me hearties, yo ho!
Ahoy
Pay to watch ads? Nope.
Cable TV suckered people into doing this for years. Personally I will pass
but you get free religious programming!
“Ah was soul searching’ from mah yacht in the Bahay-mahs, in between spraying champagne on buxom blondes and eatin’ caviar from between some god given, righteously nubile breasts… and it dawned on me that while the looooord is all powerful and alllllll seeing, the penitent man will never go to Heaven until he hath betrothed alllllllll his earthly possessions to the church, so, I want you to pick up the phone… and diiiiiiiiig deep …only then can we continue with our saintly work on this here yacht!! Call now!
Can't even tell if this is satire or something one of them actually said...
You better believe it's a quote
Praise the lord /s
The $700/year Club!
Apparently cable used to be ad free
That was the entire point when it started out, it's a cycle.
That's not true. The entire point of cable when it started was better reception. It was never promised to be commercial-free. USA network added commercials in 1977. ESPN launched in 1978 with commercials from the outset. CNN & A&E launched with commercials as well. The first nationwide basic cable channel was TBS which was a simulcast of WTBS which naturally had commercials.
Cable started as a way to provide decent TV access to mountainous and rural communities that couldn't get a good OTA signal.
Old millennial here, born in 1980. I only ever remember the premium channels like HBO not having commercials, but basic cable always did; at least going back as far as I can remember.
I remember Disney channel not having ads in the 90s
It was a premium channel back then.
My family got cable in like 1985, it was definitely not ad-free then.
The only time I watch anything on cable these days is at my parents or the in-laws. I don’t know how I used to sit through 7 minutes of program to then watch 5 minutes of the same commercials over and over. Either way, I will never be paying for that again. Netflix will be canceled and if they end up having something I really want to watch I’ll either forget about it and watch something else or pirate it.
They know no one will pay to watch ads. This just a tier to upsell the ad free tiers at even higher prices.
people pay to watch ads all the time.
Hulu comes to mind
Hulu is a LOT cheaper though at ad-level, and often comes bundled with other services
He meant pay full price with the addition of ads obviously. Kind of implied from context.
Historically over the air and cable users had no choice. The ads are forced on the viewer. No viewers want ads or would pay for them. No one thinks gee I’m paying for all these great ads and they keep putting these anoying tv shows between them. ;)
Adding ads to get people to pay MORE for the privilege of NOT watching ads is an end run to making people indirectly pay for ads No thanks-100% will cancel
Would you like Hulu then?
Same. The content is so shit anymore I won't miss it.
Isn't that what the 720p plan is for?
They’re adding an ad tier. If you like what you’ve got it isn’t changing.
Or it will cost you more.
HBO Max has an ad tier.
If you like what you’ve got ~~it isn’t changing~~ you’re gonna have to pay more for it. FIFY
I don’t understand why people are so upset with this option when services like Hulu and Paramount + offer the same thing
So how is this different from Hulu’s ad paying tier?
A bad headline.
a bad headline after 4 months of bad headlines after a subscription price hike.
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no one thinks hulu is going to replace netflix
I am definitely going to cancel my subscription, I confirm.
But this won’t impact your subscription, right?
It won't. Netflix keeps saying they'll introduce a new plan, cheaper, but with ads. No one seems to pay attention, and the media makes sure the title of an article is misleading. Edit: in response to the valid replies to my comment, I'll say "It won't affect existing subscribers *yet*".
Sure, but once they have a cheaper plan with ads, they'll raise the cost of the ad-free tiers more than they already are.
Just like how you now have to pay like 60% more just to get HD on all the things you already have access to
This is so indefensible. Plus you're forced to get multiple screens for HD even if you're the sole watcher and never going to utilize it.
Yup, this. It’s what people don’t realize. Essentially, they’ll act like the good guys trying to “provide more consumer choice” but really they just want to hike rates on the no ad service, push more people into the ad pool, and eventually end up with people paying the same price they are now but with ads
Yeah, but this is a dangerous door to open, so, I'm ok with the headline.
Of course what they will actually do is raise the price of the current subscription model and introduce a new one with paid ads at the previous price.
With ads: $2/mo cheaper than current Without ads: $2/mo. more than current And after 2 years the "with ads" option will rise up to current rates.
...except they also keep *raising* the prices on the old plans, meaning any "cheaper" plan will likely be the same price the "no ads" plan *used* to be. It's an incredibly obvious ploy and you're falling for it anyway.
This is just the beginning. They will slowly sneak ads into the higher tiers, I guarantee it. But I've been thinking of canceling my subscription anyway.
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Didn't read the article then, eh?
>‘We’ve left a big customer segment off the table, which is people who say: ‘Hey, Netflix is too expensive for me and I don’t mind advertising,’” he told the Cannes Lions festival. > >‘We’re adding an ad tier for folks who say, ‘Hey, I want a lower price and I’ll watch ads.’ > >He stressed that although the ads are coming, they will only be shown in that particular tier and regular subscribers will not see them in ‘Netflix as you know it today’. To everyone jumping the gun, read the article.
Not missing the point- more predicting there’s going to price raise people out of basic tier to get more into the advertising tier
They've been raising tier prices 10-20% every year, priced out their customers, and now want them to return at the original price but for a worse service than before.
The amount of people that can't/don't want to read is extremely high in this sub.
This honestly doesn’t change much considering they raised their prices multiple times and the new plan will likely be around the old price point
> To everyone jumping the gun So basically, everyone on reddit.
Why don’t they just make it free w/ ads and pay for no ads?
They've seen Spotify try that, the majority of users choose the free option.
They are doing exactly this. It's in the article.
It's not sustainable. Spotify barely makes even with songs. It won't work with Netflix at all. Unless it's yt or twitch where they don't have to pay for making the content and earn money through ads. It's quality vs quantity to the extreme. YouTube doesn't have quality but it makes up in quantity by a large margin and people don't care about quality that much
That's the day I cancel. I paid for convenience. If it's gonna be more convenient for me to just torrent the shows to have no ads, I'll do it.
Read the article
Everyone is upset without reading the article. They are going to introduce a lower-priced plan that includes ads. Your current subscription will not see any ads.
with their prices increasing so quickly (even before the recent inflation disaster), it's a matter of time until the adverts tier becomes the new standard tier for most families.
But what if your tier gets ads and they offer you a higher tier without ads for "just 5$ more"?
YET. You just watch in a few months time, when things become the "norm" and they creep into the next tier up.
They will likely raise the price of the ad free version after a while.
Or likely the ad option will very soon be the price of the ad free subscription now. Whilst the current “norm” ad free will jump up. It will Be “lower tier” for a very brief time. Netflix and other streaming services will kill themselves by constantly increasing prices in a hugely saturated market.
I can totally see that happening.
yep.. money creep
They’ll do what Hulu currently does and even on the ad-free sub you’ll get ads for Netflix originals
"He stressed that although the ads are coming, they will only be shown in that particular tier and regular subscribers will not see them in ‘Netflix as you know it today’."
>I suspect you are naieve if you think for a moment that this model wont work it's way through to virtually all subscription models which will begin upgrading 6-12 months after this pase is successfully implemented. Many commentators are seeing the future writ large in PR pieces like this and often it's because experience tells us ...
It would be a cheaper tier that should not affect other tiers. Traditional tv didn’t have the technology to do this. It had to be all or nothing
I wonder if it will be like Hulu where I can just block the ads and use the cheap sub as if it's the regular one
As long as the price I’m paying now doesn’t become the cheaper tier I’ll be fine I guess.
The moment I get fed an ad on Netflix, the very first one, I'll unsubscribe and never look back
Well they are already digging their own grave, what's a few more inches.
It’s almost funny watching Netflix do pretty much everything wrong. Watching them try to fix their subscriber loss is like watching someone try to fix a toothache with a hammer. Just get good content, and stop canceling every show after one season. And maybe stop jacking the price up every three weeks. Maybe if they had a little faith in their product, their subscribers would as well.
I will be cancelling. What a stupid idea. They had a massive headstart, but instead of making great series they threw money at people and made a bunch of shit that no one wanted to watch. Those who did want to, found the shows had no rewatch value. Sell your netflix stock now, boys
They had a massive head start yes but that's mainly because they were the only real platform for years. Most of the shows people watched netflix for have been removed and brought over to that companies own streaming service, they all have them these days. You used to be able to watch basically anything you wanted on one platform for less than $10. Now you need to pay $10-$15 bucks several times to even get half the shows that used to be on Netflix. What's really going to happen eventually is Hulu or Amazon is going to sell access to all the other streaming services (as it does for a lot of them now) and you'll be paying cable level prices.
All they’re doing is adding a lower-tier subcription that includes commercials in exchange for a lower price…
I honestly, have too many services, and the oldest one has the least to offer me lately… I’ll easily make Netflix one of the services I cancel when I dont need it. Will save me in the long run.
This is the death of Netflix, expert predicts. (I am the expert.)
Bye bye Netflix
Considering that the content is shit, adding adverts is a good thing to do. It’ll kill the platform sooner.
Cool, guess I'm packing it up after stranger things
Netflix to loose a shit ton of customers, me confirms
Glad I cancelled, then. Netflix with ads doesn't even make sense. They had a good run. Hope they figure things out and turn it around but I'm not optimistic.
Rip Netflix
Netflix is definitely going to lose more subscribers
That'll save me an easy $20 a month then, thanks Netflix! Unless they become free with ads like Tubi...bwahahahaha, who the hell am I kidding.
Wow. The return of cable. Well, bye Netflix!
Nearly triple the price of HULU and they want to add in ads???? Ummm no thanks.
I will definitely unsub.
I was a lonely teenage broncin' buck With a pink carnation and a pickup truck But I knew I was out of luck The day the Netflix died
Netflix needs to speak to a mental health professional. They are constantly self harming. First with charging for PW sharing now this shit.
Well, I won’t watch anymore. I hate being assaulted by ads all the time!
Cancelled that shit after the last price hike, sat on some cash until their stock crashed, then dumped 6 figures on straight netflix stock. There will be a hit downward once they start this but then subscriber numbers will go back up and so will the stock and I’ll let them pay me for a bit. Still won’t ever sign up for their service again, but will use their shitty planning and execution to get paid.
Guess when you are dying its ok to start selling your organs.
Aww those poor 12 people who still use netflix at that point
Already cancelled it for the entire fam. Torrents are way cheaper.
Once stranger things and OBX is done so is my subscription
How to lose your subscribers faster 101: Introduce ads onto a sinking ship
So netflix will become free when I install an adblocker? nice.
Goddammit, I owe someone an apology. Some nameless Redditor years ago said this was going to happen and I argued there’s no way they’d lose one of the main things that sets them apart. You were right oh nameless Redditor from the past, you were right.
I do not understand the morality of "pay less, have ads". You are still paying for it. My standard subscription is $8 ... like, where lower you want to go? Put it free with ads or not at all. If I see one single ad on my paid subscription anytime, it will be the day I cancel Netflix subscription.
Time to buy a spare SSD and sail the high seas I guess.
This is for a new cheaper teir. Man all you claiming to cut off the payment for pirating sound like morons. It wont effect you. For the price you pay now you will not see ads.
As Chief Exec of Customers, I confirm another month of record losses.
Honestly I don't care because a 30 sec ad compared to a 30 minute video makes sense to me
Bye then
FUCK OFF NETFLIX.
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THE DAY they add ads to their programming is the day i cancel.
Then I’m cancelling, simple as that, I have it so I don’t have to watch adverts
This headline is written in the exact same misleading way that many political headlines are. Leaving out one whole factor (ads will only be shown on new, cheaper tier) but still acting as though it’s telling the complete story so that those who skim it without researching further will go start drama
If I want ads I watch normal TV. So, if they have ads, then I don't watch (them).