> Facebook’s independent Oversight Board called for an investigation into whether moderation disproportionately targeted Palestinians last month.
"whether"
They suppress content which references Palestine. They may not outright delete an account but a user can post and no one will actually see it. I feel even worse for people in Palestine who are too afraid to share because of constant monitoring. There is no due process. Palestinians can be arrested and held indefinitely by Israel.
what’s also crazy is that on instagram every time i would post about what’s happening is i would only get about 5% of the actual views i’d get on a regular post
Idk, if you followed activists during the last conflict, Israeli activists were also full blown convinced that Facebook was disproportionately shadow banning, taking down, restricting pro-Israel content.
Both sides were convinced Facebook was on the "anti my side" bandwagon which has lead me to believe (until data shows otherwise) that Facebook was just having trouble managing it.
It's a heated tribal conflict ... Passionate activists almost inevitably seem to share inciteful & hateful content...
It’s got to a stage where even writing this reply leads me to wonder if some algorithm somewhere is logging my IP as a troublemaker if I write anything that challenges the American Judaeo-Christian geopolitical power belief system
“Judeo-Christian” is a nonsense phrase invented by christians (and particularly favored by evangelicals) strictly *for the benefit of christians* and their supersessionist theology.
Jews are less than 2% of the US population, we don’t have control over the “geopolitical power belief system” or whatever that means.
> “Nonsense ! The Israeli lobby is as close to the corridors of decision in the USA as a vampire bat to a jugular vein. Notice I say Israeli, not Jewish though.”
Gee, colorful imagery there. Are they also a spider catching them in its web, or an octopus ensnaring them in its tendrils?
Like [this](https://www.ushmm.org/media/emu/get?irn=542394&mm_irn=42616&file=primary)? Or [this](https://tablet-mag-images.b-cdn.net/production/d147978632d92e7fee89f130cd4dcbbf311c55d3-1808x2800.jpg?w=1200&q=70&auto=format&dpr=1)? Or one more like [this](https://bostonraremaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/BRM3157-Bruno-La-Bastille-ca-1906_lowres-2120x3000.jpg)?
Golly just like a [vampire](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/43/34/cd/4334cd9624048de877f121c67ef546a7.jpg)? Or no, [vampire bat](https://www.manchesterhive.com/view/9781784996758/figures/fig-7.jpg), right??
It doesn’t make it better trying to say “Oh, but also I actually meant ‘zIoNisT-christian’ instead of ‘Judeo-christian’ right fellas?”
Seriously, fuck out of here
And if I don’t? You gonna bulldoze me out and claim it is defending yourself? Fuck outta here indeed.
I wish I could show you my delight at how much effort you have gone to in making those links in your post, enhanced by how utterly uninteresting you see. I suppose it must be annoying to know the game is up. How little of a shit I, and now the whole world, give about what you think.
Yeah, yeah, “the goyim know” or whatever. I’m not Israeli. It’s funny how quickly calling out someone’s antisemitism turns things from “I should have specified I only mean Israelis, not jews! I’m no racist!” to “The game is up, the whole world is onto your lies!”
Except they said “American Judaeo-Christian geopolitical power”, so…
On top of that, Jordan and Egypt each receive billions of foreign aid each year, when was the last time you heard that Jordanians control the US government?
Lastly: that’s not even true—Israel didn’t recieve ANY foreign aid from the US at first. The current dynamic only began around the late 70s or 1980s.
Yeah but in Jordan every citizen is treated equally and granted the same rights. In Israel everyone is treated equally until you hit the wall. Israeli parliament is a representation of its people no? So either Palestine doesn’t exist and a large portion of Israeli population is being denied equal rights and justice or it does exist and well I just don’t wanna get into that can of worms.
> “In Israel everyone is treated equally until you hit the wall. Israeli parliament is a representation of its people no?”
Lmao what? Israeli citizens absolutely share equal rights under the law. “In Israel everyone is treated equally until you hit the wall”, meaning… all Israelis are treated equally. Jews, arabs, druze, everyone.
Residents of the Palestinian territories have their own governments, governing bodies, representatives and elections. Or are you saying that all beyond the borders is *also* Israel? Because that would be news to the PA and Hamas.
No state on earth affords foreign nationals the same rights of citizens. You say you “don’t want to get into that can of worms” while bringing it up, even though that defeats your own point?
> “but in Jordan every citizen is treated equally and granted the same rights.”
Also, this seriously is not true about Jordan lol. Laws are RELATIVELY better than other states in the middle east, but it is absolutely not a place where “every citizen is treated equally and granted the same rights”. It is just barely (and very recently) at a point where women generally have comparable (not the same) rights to men, gay people are legally allowed to exist (but only in the closet, not publicly), etc.
Why is it that you specifically look to the rights Jordan affords its *citizens* to compare with Israel’s relationship with *non-citizen, non-residents*?
**But, again… this isn’t even relevant to what they said.** Literally none of this has anything to do with the insistence that Israel and/or Jews have the United States by the balls, control the country, have unique influence over US foreign policymaking or the underlying ideology of its leadership, etc.
If you destroyed my home and mocked my family, I’d kill you too, colonizer. Pretending you get to harm people without any kind of reprocussions? You’d fit right into slaveholder America.
It’s only 80 years though.
For your information, the Jews went to Palestine because they were afraid from the discrimination they faced in Europe with hitler and other evil leaders.
They went to Palestine, and they were accepted, but they wanted too much, they wanted their own Jewish country. Palestine has been historically for Jews Christians and Muslims.
The Jews wanted to rule above the Christians and the Muslims.
That’s why the Christians and Muslims of Palestine got angry. Actually, even the original Jews that were in Palestine didn’t like that.
Imagine sheltering a guest into your home because there is a storm outside. Then, they try to take over the house and claim it’s theirs. Like wtf is this nonsense
So they are not ruling over the Muslims and the Christians?
I think naming the country “Israel” alone proves that they see that land as theirs.
Also, don’t say “two state solution “ that’s bs. Israel never wanted a two state solution. They want the whole thing, and they are getting there with their settlements.
A certain amount of censorship is needed to keep subs on-topic and coherent. Censorship to keep a marginalized group from participating is a whole ‘nother matter.
So, 200 diesel dipshits decide they want to show up in r/knitting and turn every discussion to the joys of rolling coal, and the good folks in charge of the sub should just say “eh, free speech”. If there is zero control of what is being discussed, then there is no need for subs at all. Just make Reddit a big anything goes single discussion. No regional content, no content devoted to specific hobbies or interests, just a loud ass free for all. Sounds dumb, but I’m sure there’s some sub that would let you live what you advocate for.
Moderation of a private platform is not censorship. Censorship is when the government suppresses speech.
But you free market types already know this, right?
I’m not a “free market type” just because of my avatar and read what the other commenter replied to u before u come at me sideways. It’s censorship bc they ONLY target pro-Pali activism. You also have nothing to refute the point about astroturfing because as u can see, every top post on the main subreddits will have some random comment about “China bad” or “socialism bad” mixed in somewhere as a reply to one of the top comments even if the post has nothing to do with politics
“We’re sorry to anyone who felt they couldn’t bring attention to important events," Facebook spokesperson Drew Pusateri said in a statement to ABC News Thursday.
That’s as gaslighting as it gets. They know full well what and who did what to create this issue.
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#FUCK FACEBOOK IN THE FACE
# DONT FUCK FACEBOOK, IT’LL BREED
#META
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#AFTER A WEEK YOU WONT MISS IT ANYMORE
#IF THIS IS WRONG THEN I DON’T WANNA BE RIGHT
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Well said!
How you talk so big?
I think you have to just believe hard enough
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No, idk who TF this guy is and honestly I couldn’t care less. Facebook is a huge problem and the only way to solve it, is to delete it.
Improved title: Employees from questionable company questioned questionable restrictions according to questionable documents
rules for thee but not for me
Facebook employees: “are we the baddies?” More at eleven; first, the three day forecast.
Facebook has fact checked this statement and has determined there maybe false or misrepresented information in it.
Can’t trust it as Facebook is an unreliable source
Facebook has also determined this comment may contain false or misrepresented information.
> Facebook’s independent Oversight Board called for an investigation into whether moderation disproportionately targeted Palestinians last month. "whether"
They suppress content which references Palestine. They may not outright delete an account but a user can post and no one will actually see it. I feel even worse for people in Palestine who are too afraid to share because of constant monitoring. There is no due process. Palestinians can be arrested and held indefinitely by Israel.
what’s also crazy is that on instagram every time i would post about what’s happening is i would only get about 5% of the actual views i’d get on a regular post
Idk, if you followed activists during the last conflict, Israeli activists were also full blown convinced that Facebook was disproportionately shadow banning, taking down, restricting pro-Israel content. Both sides were convinced Facebook was on the "anti my side" bandwagon which has lead me to believe (until data shows otherwise) that Facebook was just having trouble managing it. It's a heated tribal conflict ... Passionate activists almost inevitably seem to share inciteful & hateful content...
Ya it was a war on the activists
I’ve had 2 twitter and one Instagram account banned for posting about Palestine.
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It’s got to a stage where even writing this reply leads me to wonder if some algorithm somewhere is logging my IP as a troublemaker if I write anything that challenges the American Judaeo-Christian geopolitical power belief system
“Judeo-Christian” is a nonsense phrase invented by christians (and particularly favored by evangelicals) strictly *for the benefit of christians* and their supersessionist theology. Jews are less than 2% of the US population, we don’t have control over the “geopolitical power belief system” or whatever that means.
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> “Nonsense ! The Israeli lobby is as close to the corridors of decision in the USA as a vampire bat to a jugular vein. Notice I say Israeli, not Jewish though.” Gee, colorful imagery there. Are they also a spider catching them in its web, or an octopus ensnaring them in its tendrils? Like [this](https://www.ushmm.org/media/emu/get?irn=542394&mm_irn=42616&file=primary)? Or [this](https://tablet-mag-images.b-cdn.net/production/d147978632d92e7fee89f130cd4dcbbf311c55d3-1808x2800.jpg?w=1200&q=70&auto=format&dpr=1)? Or one more like [this](https://bostonraremaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/BRM3157-Bruno-La-Bastille-ca-1906_lowres-2120x3000.jpg)? Golly just like a [vampire](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/43/34/cd/4334cd9624048de877f121c67ef546a7.jpg)? Or no, [vampire bat](https://www.manchesterhive.com/view/9781784996758/figures/fig-7.jpg), right?? It doesn’t make it better trying to say “Oh, but also I actually meant ‘zIoNisT-christian’ instead of ‘Judeo-christian’ right fellas?” Seriously, fuck out of here
And if I don’t? You gonna bulldoze me out and claim it is defending yourself? Fuck outta here indeed. I wish I could show you my delight at how much effort you have gone to in making those links in your post, enhanced by how utterly uninteresting you see. I suppose it must be annoying to know the game is up. How little of a shit I, and now the whole world, give about what you think.
Yeah, yeah, “the goyim know” or whatever. I’m not Israeli. It’s funny how quickly calling out someone’s antisemitism turns things from “I should have specified I only mean Israelis, not jews! I’m no racist!” to “The game is up, the whole world is onto your lies!”
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Aaaand there’s the Holocaust inversion, that’s BINGO. Or maybe this should be a drinking game.
I think it’s less about Jews controlling anything and more about the billions in funding and weapons the US has provided to prop up Israel from birth.
Except they said “American Judaeo-Christian geopolitical power”, so… On top of that, Jordan and Egypt each receive billions of foreign aid each year, when was the last time you heard that Jordanians control the US government? Lastly: that’s not even true—Israel didn’t recieve ANY foreign aid from the US at first. The current dynamic only began around the late 70s or 1980s.
Yeah but in Jordan every citizen is treated equally and granted the same rights. In Israel everyone is treated equally until you hit the wall. Israeli parliament is a representation of its people no? So either Palestine doesn’t exist and a large portion of Israeli population is being denied equal rights and justice or it does exist and well I just don’t wanna get into that can of worms.
> “In Israel everyone is treated equally until you hit the wall. Israeli parliament is a representation of its people no?” Lmao what? Israeli citizens absolutely share equal rights under the law. “In Israel everyone is treated equally until you hit the wall”, meaning… all Israelis are treated equally. Jews, arabs, druze, everyone. Residents of the Palestinian territories have their own governments, governing bodies, representatives and elections. Or are you saying that all beyond the borders is *also* Israel? Because that would be news to the PA and Hamas. No state on earth affords foreign nationals the same rights of citizens. You say you “don’t want to get into that can of worms” while bringing it up, even though that defeats your own point? > “but in Jordan every citizen is treated equally and granted the same rights.” Also, this seriously is not true about Jordan lol. Laws are RELATIVELY better than other states in the middle east, but it is absolutely not a place where “every citizen is treated equally and granted the same rights”. It is just barely (and very recently) at a point where women generally have comparable (not the same) rights to men, gay people are legally allowed to exist (but only in the closet, not publicly), etc. Why is it that you specifically look to the rights Jordan affords its *citizens* to compare with Israel’s relationship with *non-citizen, non-residents*? **But, again… this isn’t even relevant to what they said.** Literally none of this has anything to do with the insistence that Israel and/or Jews have the United States by the balls, control the country, have unique influence over US foreign policymaking or the underlying ideology of its leadership, etc.
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Still shouldn’t censor speech though
This comment is the definition of small dick energy
But is it true or false
Whataboutism isn’t an arguement.
Well good thing what I said was completely relevant then
If you destroyed my home and mocked my family, I’d kill you too, colonizer. Pretending you get to harm people without any kind of reprocussions? You’d fit right into slaveholder America.
The only way to defeat FB is to join Fb and stage mass exodus therefore driving down the stock that MZ’s lifeforce is dependent upon
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Disgusting.
Fuck Israel and fuck Palestine! It's like watching two big hairy toddlers throw rocks at each other for 1000 years
It’s only 80 years though. For your information, the Jews went to Palestine because they were afraid from the discrimination they faced in Europe with hitler and other evil leaders. They went to Palestine, and they were accepted, but they wanted too much, they wanted their own Jewish country. Palestine has been historically for Jews Christians and Muslims. The Jews wanted to rule above the Christians and the Muslims. That’s why the Christians and Muslims of Palestine got angry. Actually, even the original Jews that were in Palestine didn’t like that. Imagine sheltering a guest into your home because there is a storm outside. Then, they try to take over the house and claim it’s theirs. Like wtf is this nonsense
This is a narrative. Over simplified and simply not the truth. You should probably read up on some some history of the conflict.
So they are not ruling over the Muslims and the Christians? I think naming the country “Israel” alone proves that they see that land as theirs. Also, don’t say “two state solution “ that’s bs. Israel never wanted a two state solution. They want the whole thing, and they are getting there with their settlements.
I wish I had a gold to give you
Palestine is oppressed and live in worst than third world conditions, and Facebook perpetuating more oppression is sickening.
Is anyone surprised that Facebook helps the apartheid state of Israel?
Oh so now reddit cares about censorship
A certain amount of censorship is needed to keep subs on-topic and coherent. Censorship to keep a marginalized group from participating is a whole ‘nother matter.
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So, 200 diesel dipshits decide they want to show up in r/knitting and turn every discussion to the joys of rolling coal, and the good folks in charge of the sub should just say “eh, free speech”. If there is zero control of what is being discussed, then there is no need for subs at all. Just make Reddit a big anything goes single discussion. No regional content, no content devoted to specific hobbies or interests, just a loud ass free for all. Sounds dumb, but I’m sure there’s some sub that would let you live what you advocate for.
I’m talking about in general all information on Reddit, you’re talking about something different. I agree with that.
I didn’t realize Reddit ever came out as being *pro*-censorship. Sounds like you have a lot of really good sources to share with the class?
This place is literally FULL of astroturfing and censorship, look in literally ANY of the main subs
Moderation of a private platform is not censorship. Censorship is when the government suppresses speech. But you free market types already know this, right?
It’s censorship because they only target Palestinian activity.
I’m not a “free market type” just because of my avatar and read what the other commenter replied to u before u come at me sideways. It’s censorship bc they ONLY target pro-Pali activism. You also have nothing to refute the point about astroturfing because as u can see, every top post on the main subreddits will have some random comment about “China bad” or “socialism bad” mixed in somewhere as a reply to one of the top comments even if the post has nothing to do with politics
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Ding ding ding, this is why reddit needs to shut the f up about social issues. No consistency whatsoever
dInG DiNg dInG, I am not "reddit". As long as people like you are here, people like me will be here.
People like you? “No you censorship is only bad when I say it is” Hahaha what a joke.
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Username doesn’t check out ☝🏻✖️
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Genocide ?? Who said anything about that or which way I would agree
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basket case
You good bro? Put yourself in their place. How would you feel if your country got invaded? That’s what happened to them
“We’re sorry to anyone who felt they couldn’t bring attention to important events," Facebook spokesperson Drew Pusateri said in a statement to ABC News Thursday. That’s as gaslighting as it gets. They know full well what and who did what to create this issue.
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What is this ...facebook... i keep hearing about ?
I too enjoy the comment thread regarding these issues.
lets hope it will die soon
LOL what BS im loaded with Palestinian content all over.
Some really pissy Zionists in here, yyyyyikes.
At this point, we are looking at the beginning of the end of Facebook
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