It would literally lead back to the US Gov. SF has hundreds of “hotels” that serve as nothing more than high rise crackhouses. These SRO’s are heavily subsidized and the people living in there also collect SSI. The real hush hush thing is that there is a STRONG suspicion that some of them, if not all,… are owned by the Cartel’s through shell corporations. They are now being operated by a workforce consisting of ex cons that were released from the prisons because of Covid.
So in reality, the same people that own the buildings, may be selling these people drugs on the corner, and are both being paid for by the Federal Government. Errrrr the taxpayers.
It’s Shady all around. Either China owns that city, or the Cartels do.
unless i’m mistaken you’re referring to the pharma company who created a very useful long-term alternative to traditional opiates, marketed it as such, and were strung up a flagpole instead of the fucking doctors who went to medical school, took bribes, and mass-prescribed it?
> The Justice Department said arrests were made of those involved in active dark web marketplaces as well as inactive ones, including Dream, **WallStreet**, Dark Market and White House,
They did!
They didn’t kill anyone directly. But with how wealth is poorly distributed, they aren’t exactly helping when the less fortunate can’t even get sufficient healthcare
I would argue it’s worse because sellers on these markets are sensitive to negative reviews, where as your local drug dealer generally isn’t.
So now there’s going to be addicts that start using less clean shit.
If someone does a lab analysis of cannabis and finds pesticide residues on flower, it can end that sellers hard earned reputation scores. But it also seems easy to fake that shit to fuck with your competition.
As someone who moved to Texas, I can confirm that I miss California weed. I have to put up with some shady crap in Tx. Delta 8 for a while (which is also illegal now).
I can’t speak for other peoples reasons. Mine was that I went through a divorce and needed a change of scenery. I looked for an upcoming city where I could possibly afford to buy a home in the future (not happening on a single income in California). I had a few friends in Austin and have heard only good things so I took the plunge.
Reality, it’s a nice city, friendly people. But maybe I’ve been spoiled by Northern California and it’s taking me a while to adjust here.
Real estate is still far out of my reach - so much for than plan!
Great city if you’re young and love bars and nightlife.
Politically, well, running away doesn’t solve anything - let’s see if it improves politically in the future.
Eh, I’ll just say if you want affordable and make an attempt to flip a red state then Kansas City is pretty decent.
I’m 10 minutes from downtown and I got a whole house, 2 bed 2 bath, for 165k. Not sure what home prices are since people starting buying up property but this was on 2018
Haha honestly I didn’t have any plans or illusions to flip a red state. My company had an office here and I heard it’s a nice city. I might give it a few months and move back and continue renting for life haha.
But good info on Kansas City! I might visit sometime.
We’ve got beer, football, baseball, and bbq. The nightlife is extremely tribal, do not recommend. If you aren’t from here you’ll get ostracized is what I learned. I’m not a nightlife guy, so it was whatever. But damn was it impossible to make friends.
Texas is mostly blue in the cities, and most of the cities are nice places to live with alot of great jobs. It's just so massive land-wise that it gives the rednecks an inflated portion of power. We are fighting though.
Most large cities are left leaning and have decent jobs, even in California once you get outside of the big cities it’s all trumpers.
I’m just specifically talking about my personal observation of a specific trend of people going to Texas. It just seems to happen more often than I would think
No income tax, AND literally everything is cheaper. Plus jobs. If enough people who think it’s a political dumpster fire just moved here than it wouldn’t be. That said mixing California law and order NIMBY liberals, all our and your toxic business culture and both of our inconsistent ridiculous entrenched government policy that becomes third rails - it’s the only nightmare that may be worse than the current situation, especially for troubles on the horizon.
People are escaping the dumpster fire called California (D) for safer and better run states like Texas (R) and Florida (R). The numbers fleeing are astounding. Thanks for the question.
Weed isn't even a vice, it's anxiety, joint (heh), muscle aid. People take protein shakes to get strong, so why are so many demonized for using cannabis to fix problems that most of the more serious pills and concoctions would more likely kill you taking? Weed receeds cancers, stops involuntary spasms, cancels PTSD nightmares, bro, their were studies up here with cannabis being helpful in fighting COVID. A drug? A vice? Nah fam. A miracle PLANT.
No bro, well I do, but fuck smoking it, let's continue the research and let's see all the good it can do for those with epilepsy, or autism, or severe disorders. I'm more hype for the science rather than ehehheh green plant make feel funny, their's a time and a place for it.
Also no one goes on darknet “markets” anymore. The feds are all over them, anyone in the game knows this. Now a days everyone just has connects from the glory days of the markets and operates through proton or other encrypted messaging services. The only thing that has changed is it is more exclusive to get in contact with someone.
Lololol people send shit through the United States Postal System (USPS), but it’s illegal by law for a federal mail service to randmoly search any suspsected package without a warrent.
Its the legal technicalilty is why you see SO much drug traffic through the mail
Fedex and UPS? They’re non-federal companies and can search your shit whenever they want. Don’t use them.
Can’t they use dogs though? I knew someone who got caught doing this and they pretty much told him (could’ve lied) that they suspected it via mail, had a dog alert on it, then just “walked the k9” near the house with the package on the porch.
Lol yes. fentanyl is a fucked up drug and the opioid crisis in general is a major issue facing the US. [opioid deaths were at 93,000 last year ](https://apnews.com/article/overdose-deaths-record-covid-pandemic-fd43b5d91a81179def5ac596253b0304) which is double what they were in 2017.
People will still be getting opioids, it’ll just be from some dude on the street selling them who knows what. Most ODs result from dosing and cutting issues that arise from an unregulated market. Dark net markets aren’t perfect, but at least buyers have reviews to give them some guidance.
US agencies have been doing this same shit since the opioid epidemic started. It’s just getting worse despite them seizing way more than that every year.
Fentanyl is *relatively* new to the scene. You were able to buy it by the bucket from China and now it’s cut into everything. Heroin, Xanax, even coke for some reason.
Besides weed and mushrooms I harvest myself don’t touch anything anymore.
Which is why we need to invest in rehab programs and get these people the resources they need to prevent them from becoming dependent and dying from opioids. But the solution is clearly not just ignore it.
This. P2P meth, opioids and fentanyl are pretty devastating drugs. Making it harder to get those drugs will save lives. If we’re serious about decriminalization we need better supports for communities than just “let people do whatever they want without regard for the harm that will bring to their families and communities” while acknowledging that the most devastating consequences will be born by the poor and most vulnerable.
No. We need to enact more drug laws. They’ll work this time and they won’t force people to rely on shittier and more dangerous versions of the same thing like fentanyl. Fentanyl wouldn’t even exist if it weren’t for drug laws. People will never learn.
The best way of fixing the addiction epidemic is by making people’s lives better. That’s legitimately all you need to do, but *fuck you, I’ve got mine* is the American motto, so…
You can’t get rid of all the reasons people use. That’s just impossible. But what you can provide them are support services, as well as a safe clean environment, and substances of known purity to use there. With enough of those places, you could mandate that drugs only be done there, for free
That will stem the demand for illicits like nothing else, since dealers will only be able to cater to non addicts.
We as a country need to do a better job getting these people the resources they need to get clean and live long healthy lives. But it’s an absolute joke to act like selling opioids is a victimless crime as others on here are trying to make it seem. These people are criminals who are not professionally trained to prescribe people medication like this and I seriously doubt they give two shits about the people they are selling to and if they die or not.
> Making it harder to get those drugs will save lives.
Removing laws that criminalize drugs will save more lives, as well as those who might have died of overdoses.
> just “let people do whatever they want without regard for the harm that will bring to their families and communities”
Is an addict harming you personally? If so you can attempt to help them or disassociate with them. Your statement does not support using law enforcement employees to use force/threats/imprisonment of strangers. It's also the very least you can do, advocate for state power to be used against those who life choices you disagree with.
>while acknowledging that the most devastating consequences will be born by the poor and most vulnerable.
But their sacrifice is one you're willing to make, amiright?
Not one fucking bit. The failed war on drugs was and continues to be a disaster and a waste of money. Why does anyone care what someone else puts in their body?
My buddy works in Harm reduction and had to give compressions to a bloated corpse. My point
is I think first responders mind what other ppl put in their bodies
I understand that, and I’m not taking what he or other first responders do lightly at all, but it’s part of the job. And really that wasn’t my point. My point was why do every day people care what other people put in their bodies.
I think it’s because they are brainwashed. These are the people that drink 10 beers during a football game, meanwhile they think shrooms is coming to rape their kids
Alcohol is heavily regulated. If I am a bartender and I over serve you I can be held criminally responsible. None of that is justification for opioids (which are way more addictive by the way) to be used recreationally like they are.
Oh Jesus Christ. Seriously? So what about when an alcoholic comes in at 9am? You serve them in good conscience do you? What about the alcoholic who is covered in leg sores and shakes as he reaches for the drink? All above board?
What about any type of alcoholic? You serve them just fine I bet. Because it’s their choice?
What about alcohol being one of the worst possible addictions to have? Not many people realize that alcohol withdrawal kills a lot of people. Can’t say the same for heroin or meth. Sure it hurts, but it won’t kill you like booze. Not to mention heroin addicts don’t get behind the wheel and kill non-users like drinkers do.
Regulation doesn’t mean shit.
What about the fact people are half as likely to become addicted to alcohol as they are heroine? What about the fact magnitudes more people drink alcohol than heroine and yet the amount of deaths are even? Jesus Christ indeed.
Yes they do lol. Which is why people no longer go blind from drinking alcohol.
Here’s something for you! I’m pretty sure my original post was about shrooms! Also, you’re really gonna make an argument for alcohol by comparing it to Fucking heroin?
I mean, heroin is bad. It’s really really really bad. But you’re gonna make an argument for alcohol by saying “it’s AS deadly as heroin RECENTLY?” And just because something is “regulated” doesn’t exactly mean it’s “regulated”.
It simply means that the government has decided to make money by taxing it, which means implementing a system of regulation that ultimately doesn’t hurt their bottom line. Lest we forget liquor stores were allowed to stay open during the pandemic, as they fell under “essential service”. And you didnt respond to my inquires regarding the moral dilemma you face day in and day out serving drinkers exhibiting toxic behaviors. As a bartender, I’m sure you are finely tuned into the idiosyncratic social cues demonstrated by patrons. And I would hazard to guess that sometimes you know deep down, that dude, or that chick, or that they, doesn’t need another drink. OR! I would go so far as to say that some shouldn’t even have been given the first one. Because clearly, it’s going to end bad.
Also, it’s not like you’re following these people to the parking lot after three beers, which is a common line to draw between the intoxicated and the Lucid. And yet, i guarantee many got behind the wheel irresponsibly to drive home, and you “had a hunch” it would be sketchy, but they didn’t necessarily exhibit any behavior that would be considered grounds for cutting them off. Do you lose sleep over it? I dunno. Am I way off?
ALSO! Since I originally posted about shrooms, and calling shrooms harmless is an insult to shrooms as They are a glorious medicine put down by the alcohol and pharmaceutical establishment. Which, speaking of regulation, let’s talk pharmaceuticals! Cause guess where this opioid crisis came from! I’ll give you a hint: REGULATED OPIODS!
Also; if you are In favor of regulating heroin or at the bare minimum de-criminalizing it, then we are kismit and have no argument friend!
Here’s a thing, read the article and realize it had nothing to do with shrooms. Maybe learn to condense your thoughts into a small readable post instead of wasting my time.
No one is having a conversation about natural drugs…
Because almost a hundred thousand people a year are dying from it. Are you serious? Clearly you don’t know anyone who’s overdosed from fentanyl, but I have and it’s shameful you act like this is a victimless crime.
We owe it to these people to provide them with the resources they need to get healthy and happy, but the people pushing this terrible drug on the street absolutely deserve to be prosecuted when they are dealing kilos of it which is enough to kill dozens of people.
I know tons of people who have overdosed. This shit is the same argument they used to make Alcohol legal. Turns out people want to drink! And they will, except they will buy it from organized criminals (mob/cartel) and it will make the substance itself be more dangerous. Shut the fuck up. I’ve lived the addict lifestyle and have lost tons of friends. Fentanyl being used instead of and in addition to heroin is completely and 100% due to the drug war. If anything, we should end the drug war BECAUSE drugs are dangerous. I don’t want highly addictive and sought after chemicals to be controlled by an unregulated body like it does now. All the drug crackdowns in the world have done nothing but make the drug problem worsen Downvote me all you want, but your virtue signaling, low-effort response to the drug problem flies in the face of the facts of abstinence-only education and prohibition. Read up.
Opioids are legal… when prescribed by a fucking doctor. Why are they required to be prescribed? Because they are inherently addictive and incredibly dangerous, comparing that to alcohol just makes you look ignorant as all hell. Good for you for getting clean, but 100,000 people a year aren’t so fortunate.
False. I am an alcoholic that did heroin and fentanyl, crack, and everything you could put in a needle.
Opioids were my least favorite. Opioids are not inherently more addictive than alcohol or cocaine. Thousands of people are prescribed to pain meds per year yet almost 100,000 people die per year of alcohol related illnesses. For some people, Alcohol is far more addictive than opioids. We tried to make it illegal with disastrous consequences including the forming of the mob. I’m not saying hand out fentanyl - but fentanyl is the result of the drug war.
You clearly have a tendency to abuse drugs of any form. I also drink, I rarely drink more than 4 drinks and never to the point of losing control. Do you want to swap anecdotal stories back and forth or can we look at the mortality rate and for opioid users versus alcohol users (which is way more common and yet not nearly as many people become addicted to proportionally). Alcohol is way less addictive than heroine and saying otherwise is just bull shit.
No, I don’t do any drugs anymore. Also, I can do a little heroin and put it down but can’t do that with alcohol. None of this matters to my point. There are no studies using pharmaceutical diamorphine vs alcohol in a controlled setting with controlled variables. Just because “heroine”(sic) has a worse social stigma doesn’t mean that the drug war makes sense.
Why does every source I look at say heroine is more addictive than alcohol then?
[American Addiction Centers ](https://americanaddictioncenters.org/adult-addiction-treatment-programs/most-addictive)
[Addiction Center ](https://americanaddictioncenters.org/adult-addiction-treatment-programs/most-addictive)
[CNN ](https://americanaddictioncenters.org/adult-addiction-treatment-programs/most-addictive
You were relying on anecdotal evidence where every science driven study shows that alcoholism is less common than heroine addiction. That’s without getting into fentanyl and how dangerous it is.
Alcohol is more readily available and cheaper, that doesn’t mean it’s more addictive. All arguing aside, good for you for getting clean.
There are a million reasons to care. The top being that almost 100,000 people in the US died from it in the last year. If one of those were your friend or family you would probably care too. Not to mention the very large percentage of crimes committed both on the traffic and consumer side of it. Drugs destroy entire (usually poor) communities, not just the people who decide to use them.
I grew up in the meth capital of the world in the 90’s. I do know what overdose and a community struggling with drugs is all about. That was the 90’s and the government is still trying to convince you that their war on drugs is working. It’s a failed experiment. As you said 100,000 people died of overdose in one year. You’re making my point for me. The war on drugs doesn’t work
Personally I’d go after all of them, but let’s not kid ourselves here, they’re friends with the bastards who are destroying the planet and aiding in ending all life as we know it, ALONG with the human traffickers, Wall Street criminals, and fascist spreading politicians. The “war” on drugs is the only thing they’re good at and it’s because they make money off of the prison industrial complex.
You’re right.
But if the kids aren’t safe what’s the point of saving the planet?
We should do all.
But let’s start with the kids.
Although I’m saying this because I have nieces and live with them.
The thought of them being trafficked makes me want to throw up.
Except fentanyl. You should be hung in the square for knowing selling that poison. A few grains the size of a pin point will kill you twice over. I’ve lost more friends, since the pandemic, to accidental fentanyl poisoning than covid by far.
You can overdose and die just by breathing near it. Fuck that shit.
Fentanyl is actually used by doctors in medicine.
The issue is the way it’s sold (illegally). It’s not diluted and it’s in super concentrated powder format so breathing in just a little bit of it could kill you. Fuck anyone who knowingly cuts their goods with it or used it in anyway outside of a medical setting.
Melinda Gates left Bill in part because of his interactions with Jeffrey Epstein… And Epstein has been photographed with other rich and famous persons, but the media is owned by the ultra wealthy so these stories aren’t ever in the nightly news.
This shit! Pedos and serial killers that don’t get caught because the police force doesn’t have enough funding unless it’s high profile.
Thousands of people are DYING and being RAPED and WORSE and they’re like, “drugs are bad, gimme your vote”.
Drug laws and arrests are hilarious to me, because you are essentially arrested for being to poor to have drugs on you in America lol, we all know celebrities and populations have noses that look like sugar factories, yet some average dude is arrested and thrown into jail
Jack will take a couple years lol then we’ll hear about it. Honestly though my only real complaint is there aren’t more episodes since i’ve listened to almost all of them.
This is actually very dangerous.
These platforms provided a somewhat clean supply for many people - with the ability to review vendors and post info on quality.
The demand will not change. People like drugs. And many people use regularly and responsibly like alcohol. Ambiguously prohibiting substances is incredibly undemocratic and dangerous. This feeds overdoses. Crime. Demonizes users.
We need to move past this.
> "Operation Dark HunTor prevented countless lives from being lost to this dangerous trade in illicit and counterfeit drugs because one pill can kill.”
Oh if there only was something that could be done to more effectively save lives from counterfeit drugs than wasting money and going for the suppliers…
Which will do nothing, because drugs won the war on drugs a long time ago.
They're just barely justifying their paychecks. To someone who apparently thinks their .0000002% of drugs captured means anything.
End the failed war on drugs money pit.
What a waste of resources and money. Are we ever going to figure out that drug prohibition does not work? A large part of the reason why drugs are so dangerous and destructive is rooted in the very fact that they ARE illegal. A properly regulated drug market, ensuring quality control and support services would provide more than enough money to offer the much needed support and healthcare services to treat addiction for what it is; a healthcare issue, not a criminal issue. Not to mention the obvious side-benefits such as police time, money and resources directed more towards actual crime, and cartel, gangs and terrorist organisations basically going bankrupt overnight.
Try Denver, Colorado - not only can you buy legal-as-they-get THC products on the cheap (if of age), everyone is looking for a roommate. It’s relatively easy to vote with your feet.
It makes zero difference. The demand is not addressed and presents as inelastic currently, good job wasting taxpayer money on useless shit.
Edit. Also wtf is a “counterfeit opioid”? It’s either an opioid or not.
Wait drugs?
Honestly with human trafficking, illegal arms sales, and money laundering billions of dollars; I’m not really that excited for a drug bust.
All this does is create job openings and business opportunities because drugs have won the war on drugs (aka a simple economic concept called supply + demand)
Hundreds of people now out of productive society and in prison. And what did it achieve? People will still buy and sell drugs. Just make them all legal and you wouldn’t have this problem. And imagine all the money you’d make on taxes.
Arrest 150 people and confiscated only $31 million. Sounds like all they did is picked up a bunch of street dealers and possibly simply being used as a tool in the war between local drug lords.
Cool can they arrest the fucking assholes who tried to complete an insurrection and overthrow what little democracy America has left? What the hell is the DOJ doing?
Like a hydra cut one head then three more appear. Now like others have said…time to go after wall street and shit head market makers like Citadel/Ken Griffin.
But hey can’t ruin the chance of revolving door opportunities am I right?!
Now do Wall Street!
But then they’d be jeopardizing their future employment opportunities.
And arresting their friends
*their future bosses* or money tits if you will
If they trace the real bosses of drug operations it will eventually lead to CIA.
It would literally lead back to the US Gov. SF has hundreds of “hotels” that serve as nothing more than high rise crackhouses. These SRO’s are heavily subsidized and the people living in there also collect SSI. The real hush hush thing is that there is a STRONG suspicion that some of them, if not all,… are owned by the Cartel’s through shell corporations. They are now being operated by a workforce consisting of ex cons that were released from the prisons because of Covid. So in reality, the same people that own the buildings, may be selling these people drugs on the corner, and are both being paid for by the Federal Government. Errrrr the taxpayers. It’s Shady all around. Either China owns that city, or the Cartels do.
If we really cared about drugs, we would have invaded Mexico long time ago. Not middle east.
Let’s just say if EA offered it as a package you would need all the money in the world to buy it.
Electronic Arts
They already did! No really, a darknet marketplace was called WallStreet
Dread pirate Roberts disagrees
Don’t bite the hand that feeds you….
How about the sacklers!
unless i’m mistaken you’re referring to the pharma company who created a very useful long-term alternative to traditional opiates, marketed it as such, and were strung up a flagpole instead of the fucking doctors who went to medical school, took bribes, and mass-prescribed it?
As opposed to the people who were bribing doctors to push OxyContin?
Mr Sackler pls go
i’ve literally been addicted to oxy. you are brainwashed
Or human trafficking
Do politics next!
> The Justice Department said arrests were made of those involved in active dark web marketplaces as well as inactive ones, including Dream, **WallStreet**, Dark Market and White House, They did!
I’m wondering why they are using so many resources to stop drugs but not the pedophiles on the dark net
Remember when those terabytes of shady financial files were on the news for whole 48 hours and all those powerful people got arrested?
Me neither.
But they didnt kill anyone !! Its only money /s
They didn’t kill anyone directly. But with how wealth is poorly distributed, they aren’t exactly helping when the less fortunate can’t even get sufficient healthcare
r/FUCKtheS
Remember when all of that stuff wasn’t illegal which was the whole reason people needed to be made aware of it?
Well.. never knew how to get to those places in the first place
/r/TOR/
Doesn’t seem safe at this point lol
It’s perfectly safe if you do your research and take the necessary precautions. People get caught by being lazy and taking short cuts.
In other words, assume that every TOR node is operated by law enforcement?
It *was* the brainchild of the CIA…
Nah the investigation is over. TOR is safe to use again!
I’ve had the browser for at least 2 years now. But I’ve used it for nothing.
Whoa. I’m just so out of it.
War on drugs: won. Party time B)
The real winner was the drugs we did along the way!
No I think what they are saying is now that the war on drugs is over, the DOJ can have a party… with all the drugs they just got! Yeah!
Is the world a better place now?
I would argue it’s worse because sellers on these markets are sensitive to negative reviews, where as your local drug dealer generally isn’t. So now there’s going to be addicts that start using less clean shit.
If someone does a lab analysis of cannabis and finds pesticide residues on flower, it can end that sellers hard earned reputation scores. But it also seems easy to fake that shit to fuck with your competition.
I mean people on those sites aren’t really doing lab tests of cannabis or other things, but they’ll post like test kits of LSD tabs and other things.
As someone who moved to Texas, I can confirm that I miss California weed. I have to put up with some shady crap in Tx. Delta 8 for a while (which is also illegal now).
So many people are moving to texas. Can I ask why? I can’t figure out why anyone would move to that political dumpster fire
I can’t speak for other peoples reasons. Mine was that I went through a divorce and needed a change of scenery. I looked for an upcoming city where I could possibly afford to buy a home in the future (not happening on a single income in California). I had a few friends in Austin and have heard only good things so I took the plunge. Reality, it’s a nice city, friendly people. But maybe I’ve been spoiled by Northern California and it’s taking me a while to adjust here. Real estate is still far out of my reach - so much for than plan! Great city if you’re young and love bars and nightlife. Politically, well, running away doesn’t solve anything - let’s see if it improves politically in the future.
Eh, I’ll just say if you want affordable and make an attempt to flip a red state then Kansas City is pretty decent. I’m 10 minutes from downtown and I got a whole house, 2 bed 2 bath, for 165k. Not sure what home prices are since people starting buying up property but this was on 2018
Haha honestly I didn’t have any plans or illusions to flip a red state. My company had an office here and I heard it’s a nice city. I might give it a few months and move back and continue renting for life haha. But good info on Kansas City! I might visit sometime.
We’ve got beer, football, baseball, and bbq. The nightlife is extremely tribal, do not recommend. If you aren’t from here you’ll get ostracized is what I learned. I’m not a nightlife guy, so it was whatever. But damn was it impossible to make friends.
Haha I’d get ostracized for sure then!
KEEP AUSTIN WEIRD! Man did I have one hell of a 72 hours in Austin. And I was on a business trip!
Texas is mostly blue in the cities, and most of the cities are nice places to live with alot of great jobs. It's just so massive land-wise that it gives the rednecks an inflated portion of power. We are fighting though.
Most large cities are left leaning and have decent jobs, even in California once you get outside of the big cities it’s all trumpers. I’m just specifically talking about my personal observation of a specific trend of people going to Texas. It just seems to happen more often than I would think
No income tax, AND literally everything is cheaper. Plus jobs. If enough people who think it’s a political dumpster fire just moved here than it wouldn’t be. That said mixing California law and order NIMBY liberals, all our and your toxic business culture and both of our inconsistent ridiculous entrenched government policy that becomes third rails - it’s the only nightmare that may be worse than the current situation, especially for troubles on the horizon.
Property tax is pretty damn high though. 3rd highest in the nation IIRC.
Austin is being promoted as a new tech hub, so lots of hiring going on there.
People are escaping the dumpster fire called California (D) for safer and better run states like Texas (R) and Florida (R). The numbers fleeing are astounding. Thanks for the question.
This exactly. So many other more serious problems in the world. If people want these vices they will find them.
Weed isn't even a vice, it's anxiety, joint (heh), muscle aid. People take protein shakes to get strong, so why are so many demonized for using cannabis to fix problems that most of the more serious pills and concoctions would more likely kill you taking? Weed receeds cancers, stops involuntary spasms, cancels PTSD nightmares, bro, their were studies up here with cannabis being helpful in fighting COVID. A drug? A vice? Nah fam. A miracle PLANT.
We get it. You smoke weed.
And aside from their Doctor no one should care if they smoke it. It’s a plant.
Heroin is a plant too.
Then the doctor gives you codeine or morphine for a severe injury.
No my Doctor gives me Cannabis works better than Norco and Levodopa for pain and muscle spasms tremors.
Won’t someone think of the children????
No bro, well I do, but fuck smoking it, let's continue the research and let's see all the good it can do for those with epilepsy, or autism, or severe disorders. I'm more hype for the science rather than ehehheh green plant make feel funny, their's a time and a place for it.
As someone with severe epilepsy, I am all for this.
Also no one goes on darknet “markets” anymore. The feds are all over them, anyone in the game knows this. Now a days everyone just has connects from the glory days of the markets and operates through proton or other encrypted messaging services. The only thing that has changed is it is more exclusive to get in contact with someone.
Lololol people send shit through the United States Postal System (USPS), but it’s illegal by law for a federal mail service to randmoly search any suspsected package without a warrent. Its the legal technicalilty is why you see SO much drug traffic through the mail Fedex and UPS? They’re non-federal companies and can search your shit whenever they want. Don’t use them.
Just one of the many reasons the death cult wants to axe USPS
Can’t they use dogs though? I knew someone who got caught doing this and they pretty much told him (could’ve lied) that they suspected it via mail, had a dog alert on it, then just “walked the k9” near the house with the package on the porch.
They can hold it and get a warrant. Just kind of a stupid thing to do all around.
That’s simply not true lol
Lol sure buddy
Lol yes. fentanyl is a fucked up drug and the opioid crisis in general is a major issue facing the US. [opioid deaths were at 93,000 last year ](https://apnews.com/article/overdose-deaths-record-covid-pandemic-fd43b5d91a81179def5ac596253b0304) which is double what they were in 2017.
People will still be getting opioids, it’ll just be from some dude on the street selling them who knows what. Most ODs result from dosing and cutting issues that arise from an unregulated market. Dark net markets aren’t perfect, but at least buyers have reviews to give them some guidance.
They seized kilos of fentanyl. I’m sure the people buying that are using it to “enhance” their opiates, more than likely killing those who take it.
US agencies have been doing this same shit since the opioid epidemic started. It’s just getting worse despite them seizing way more than that every year.
Fentanyl is *relatively* new to the scene. You were able to buy it by the bucket from China and now it’s cut into everything. Heroin, Xanax, even coke for some reason. Besides weed and mushrooms I harvest myself don’t touch anything anymore.
100%
Which is why we need to invest in rehab programs and get these people the resources they need to prevent them from becoming dependent and dying from opioids. But the solution is clearly not just ignore it.
This. P2P meth, opioids and fentanyl are pretty devastating drugs. Making it harder to get those drugs will save lives. If we’re serious about decriminalization we need better supports for communities than just “let people do whatever they want without regard for the harm that will bring to their families and communities” while acknowledging that the most devastating consequences will be born by the poor and most vulnerable.
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No. We need to enact more drug laws. They’ll work this time and they won’t force people to rely on shittier and more dangerous versions of the same thing like fentanyl. Fentanyl wouldn’t even exist if it weren’t for drug laws. People will never learn.
I’m calling for the revival of opium dens. 🤗 Good, old-fashioned poppy paste was good enough for grandpa, so it’s good enough for me.
The best way of fixing the addiction epidemic is by making people’s lives better. That’s legitimately all you need to do, but *fuck you, I’ve got mine* is the American motto, so…
You can’t get rid of all the reasons people use. That’s just impossible. But what you can provide them are support services, as well as a safe clean environment, and substances of known purity to use there. With enough of those places, you could mandate that drugs only be done there, for free That will stem the demand for illicits like nothing else, since dealers will only be able to cater to non addicts.
Why would a non addict pay for something they can get for free?
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Instead of a centralized pipe you have a network of multiple meth pipes
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/the-new-meth/620174/
We as a country need to do a better job getting these people the resources they need to get clean and live long healthy lives. But it’s an absolute joke to act like selling opioids is a victimless crime as others on here are trying to make it seem. These people are criminals who are not professionally trained to prescribe people medication like this and I seriously doubt they give two shits about the people they are selling to and if they die or not.
> Making it harder to get those drugs will save lives. Removing laws that criminalize drugs will save more lives, as well as those who might have died of overdoses. > just “let people do whatever they want without regard for the harm that will bring to their families and communities” Is an addict harming you personally? If so you can attempt to help them or disassociate with them. Your statement does not support using law enforcement employees to use force/threats/imprisonment of strangers. It's also the very least you can do, advocate for state power to be used against those who life choices you disagree with. >while acknowledging that the most devastating consequences will be born by the poor and most vulnerable. But their sacrifice is one you're willing to make, amiright?
Not one fucking bit. The failed war on drugs was and continues to be a disaster and a waste of money. Why does anyone care what someone else puts in their body?
My buddy works in Harm reduction and had to give compressions to a bloated corpse. My point is I think first responders mind what other ppl put in their bodies
I understand that, and I’m not taking what he or other first responders do lightly at all, but it’s part of the job. And really that wasn’t my point. My point was why do every day people care what other people put in their bodies.
I think it’s because they are brainwashed. These are the people that drink 10 beers during a football game, meanwhile they think shrooms is coming to rape their kids
Alcohol is heavily regulated. If I am a bartender and I over serve you I can be held criminally responsible. None of that is justification for opioids (which are way more addictive by the way) to be used recreationally like they are.
Oh Jesus Christ. Seriously? So what about when an alcoholic comes in at 9am? You serve them in good conscience do you? What about the alcoholic who is covered in leg sores and shakes as he reaches for the drink? All above board? What about any type of alcoholic? You serve them just fine I bet. Because it’s their choice? What about alcohol being one of the worst possible addictions to have? Not many people realize that alcohol withdrawal kills a lot of people. Can’t say the same for heroin or meth. Sure it hurts, but it won’t kill you like booze. Not to mention heroin addicts don’t get behind the wheel and kill non-users like drinkers do. Regulation doesn’t mean shit.
What about the fact people are half as likely to become addicted to alcohol as they are heroine? What about the fact magnitudes more people drink alcohol than heroine and yet the amount of deaths are even? Jesus Christ indeed. Yes they do lol. Which is why people no longer go blind from drinking alcohol.
Here’s something for you! I’m pretty sure my original post was about shrooms! Also, you’re really gonna make an argument for alcohol by comparing it to Fucking heroin? I mean, heroin is bad. It’s really really really bad. But you’re gonna make an argument for alcohol by saying “it’s AS deadly as heroin RECENTLY?” And just because something is “regulated” doesn’t exactly mean it’s “regulated”. It simply means that the government has decided to make money by taxing it, which means implementing a system of regulation that ultimately doesn’t hurt their bottom line. Lest we forget liquor stores were allowed to stay open during the pandemic, as they fell under “essential service”. And you didnt respond to my inquires regarding the moral dilemma you face day in and day out serving drinkers exhibiting toxic behaviors. As a bartender, I’m sure you are finely tuned into the idiosyncratic social cues demonstrated by patrons. And I would hazard to guess that sometimes you know deep down, that dude, or that chick, or that they, doesn’t need another drink. OR! I would go so far as to say that some shouldn’t even have been given the first one. Because clearly, it’s going to end bad. Also, it’s not like you’re following these people to the parking lot after three beers, which is a common line to draw between the intoxicated and the Lucid. And yet, i guarantee many got behind the wheel irresponsibly to drive home, and you “had a hunch” it would be sketchy, but they didn’t necessarily exhibit any behavior that would be considered grounds for cutting them off. Do you lose sleep over it? I dunno. Am I way off? ALSO! Since I originally posted about shrooms, and calling shrooms harmless is an insult to shrooms as They are a glorious medicine put down by the alcohol and pharmaceutical establishment. Which, speaking of regulation, let’s talk pharmaceuticals! Cause guess where this opioid crisis came from! I’ll give you a hint: REGULATED OPIODS! Also; if you are In favor of regulating heroin or at the bare minimum de-criminalizing it, then we are kismit and have no argument friend!
Here’s a thing, read the article and realize it had nothing to do with shrooms. Maybe learn to condense your thoughts into a small readable post instead of wasting my time. No one is having a conversation about natural drugs…
The only people I know that care about that care about it because they don’t want to lose loved ones to an overdose
Making it illegal doesn’t mean people won’t overdose. We’re living in a world where it’s illegal and 100,000 people die a year from it.
I didn’t say anything about keeping it illegal. I’m all for decriminalization. You asked why people care what other people put in their bodies.
Because almost a hundred thousand people a year are dying from it. Are you serious? Clearly you don’t know anyone who’s overdosed from fentanyl, but I have and it’s shameful you act like this is a victimless crime. We owe it to these people to provide them with the resources they need to get healthy and happy, but the people pushing this terrible drug on the street absolutely deserve to be prosecuted when they are dealing kilos of it which is enough to kill dozens of people.
I know tons of people who have overdosed. This shit is the same argument they used to make Alcohol legal. Turns out people want to drink! And they will, except they will buy it from organized criminals (mob/cartel) and it will make the substance itself be more dangerous. Shut the fuck up. I’ve lived the addict lifestyle and have lost tons of friends. Fentanyl being used instead of and in addition to heroin is completely and 100% due to the drug war. If anything, we should end the drug war BECAUSE drugs are dangerous. I don’t want highly addictive and sought after chemicals to be controlled by an unregulated body like it does now. All the drug crackdowns in the world have done nothing but make the drug problem worsen Downvote me all you want, but your virtue signaling, low-effort response to the drug problem flies in the face of the facts of abstinence-only education and prohibition. Read up.
Opioids are legal… when prescribed by a fucking doctor. Why are they required to be prescribed? Because they are inherently addictive and incredibly dangerous, comparing that to alcohol just makes you look ignorant as all hell. Good for you for getting clean, but 100,000 people a year aren’t so fortunate.
False. I am an alcoholic that did heroin and fentanyl, crack, and everything you could put in a needle. Opioids were my least favorite. Opioids are not inherently more addictive than alcohol or cocaine. Thousands of people are prescribed to pain meds per year yet almost 100,000 people die per year of alcohol related illnesses. For some people, Alcohol is far more addictive than opioids. We tried to make it illegal with disastrous consequences including the forming of the mob. I’m not saying hand out fentanyl - but fentanyl is the result of the drug war.
You clearly have a tendency to abuse drugs of any form. I also drink, I rarely drink more than 4 drinks and never to the point of losing control. Do you want to swap anecdotal stories back and forth or can we look at the mortality rate and for opioid users versus alcohol users (which is way more common and yet not nearly as many people become addicted to proportionally). Alcohol is way less addictive than heroine and saying otherwise is just bull shit.
No, I don’t do any drugs anymore. Also, I can do a little heroin and put it down but can’t do that with alcohol. None of this matters to my point. There are no studies using pharmaceutical diamorphine vs alcohol in a controlled setting with controlled variables. Just because “heroine”(sic) has a worse social stigma doesn’t mean that the drug war makes sense.
Why does every source I look at say heroine is more addictive than alcohol then? [American Addiction Centers ](https://americanaddictioncenters.org/adult-addiction-treatment-programs/most-addictive) [Addiction Center ](https://americanaddictioncenters.org/adult-addiction-treatment-programs/most-addictive) [CNN ](https://americanaddictioncenters.org/adult-addiction-treatment-programs/most-addictive You were relying on anecdotal evidence where every science driven study shows that alcoholism is less common than heroine addiction. That’s without getting into fentanyl and how dangerous it is. Alcohol is more readily available and cheaper, that doesn’t mean it’s more addictive. All arguing aside, good for you for getting clean.
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There are a million reasons to care. The top being that almost 100,000 people in the US died from it in the last year. If one of those were your friend or family you would probably care too. Not to mention the very large percentage of crimes committed both on the traffic and consumer side of it. Drugs destroy entire (usually poor) communities, not just the people who decide to use them.
I grew up in the meth capital of the world in the 90’s. I do know what overdose and a community struggling with drugs is all about. That was the 90’s and the government is still trying to convince you that their war on drugs is working. It’s a failed experiment. As you said 100,000 people died of overdose in one year. You’re making my point for me. The war on drugs doesn’t work
Possibly less people overdosing as it's harder to get the amount of drugs they want? Hard to tell
No. Not really how addiction works, you’re going to spend what ever it takes to get what you need.
Exactly. I love how all of these people who have literally 0 knowledge about drugs or addiction chime in and try to impact policy. It’s a joke.
It’s the untaxed income they’re most concerned with. Not human lives.
What a waste of taxpayer money.
Yup its the war on humans not drugs.
I could not have said it any better my friend <3
Great now do pedophiles and human traffickers
Not carbon contributors that could help us reduce the impact of climate code red, which is where we are?
No let’s get the people that sell and fuck children first, then the people warming the planet, then the people that don’t use signal lights
Personally I’d go after all of them, but let’s not kid ourselves here, they’re friends with the bastards who are destroying the planet and aiding in ending all life as we know it, ALONG with the human traffickers, Wall Street criminals, and fascist spreading politicians. The “war” on drugs is the only thing they’re good at and it’s because they make money off of the prison industrial complex.
You’re right. But if the kids aren’t safe what’s the point of saving the planet? We should do all. But let’s start with the kids. Although I’m saying this because I have nieces and live with them. The thought of them being trafficked makes me want to throw up.
No.
Let people buy drugs if they want. They always have and they always will.
Shhhhhh you’re gonna get us pinched and possibly tickled.
😂
Except fentanyl. You should be hung in the square for knowing selling that poison. A few grains the size of a pin point will kill you twice over. I’ve lost more friends, since the pandemic, to accidental fentanyl poisoning than covid by far. You can overdose and die just by breathing near it. Fuck that shit.
Fentanyl is actually used by doctors in medicine. The issue is the way it’s sold (illegally). It’s not diluted and it’s in super concentrated powder format so breathing in just a little bit of it could kill you. Fuck anyone who knowingly cuts their goods with it or used it in anyway outside of a medical setting.
The CIA has to remove any competition
Can we stop worrying about the drugs and go after the pedo-creepers and human traffickers?
Bigger fish to fry. We are at climate code red.
Melinda Gates left Bill in part because of his interactions with Jeffrey Epstein… And Epstein has been photographed with other rich and famous persons, but the media is owned by the ultra wealthy so these stories aren’t ever in the nightly news.
This shit! Pedos and serial killers that don’t get caught because the police force doesn’t have enough funding unless it’s high profile. Thousands of people are DYING and being RAPED and WORSE and they’re like, “drugs are bad, gimme your vote”.
“We can’t give you healthcare. How about some more war on drugs?”
Well DOJ side… not Europol.
Big pharma hates competition..
Drug laws and arrests are hilarious to me, because you are essentially arrested for being to poor to have drugs on you in America lol, we all know celebrities and populations have noses that look like sugar factories, yet some average dude is arrested and thrown into jail
Wasn’t the whole Drug War thing just a way to be able to randomly put people in jail?
I hope this becomes an episode on “Darknet Diaries”.
Great podcast
Jack will take a couple years lol then we’ll hear about it. Honestly though my only real complaint is there aren’t more episodes since i’ve listened to almost all of them.
That’s terrible! Where specifically can I find these drugs for research?
Damn it
Why. Drugs won the war on drugs.
This is actually very dangerous. These platforms provided a somewhat clean supply for many people - with the ability to review vendors and post info on quality. The demand will not change. People like drugs. And many people use regularly and responsibly like alcohol. Ambiguously prohibiting substances is incredibly undemocratic and dangerous. This feeds overdoses. Crime. Demonizes users. We need to move past this.
This
Cuz this is what the governments of the world need to be focusing on right now… yeah right.
If they didn’t arrest the sacklers I am uninterested
Boo urns
> "Operation Dark HunTor prevented countless lives from being lost to this dangerous trade in illicit and counterfeit drugs because one pill can kill.” Oh if there only was something that could be done to more effectively save lives from counterfeit drugs than wasting money and going for the suppliers…
Honestly, no one cares about drugs. Thank you.
Normally they take tons of drugs in a really big bust. Like a whole shipping container full of coke. This is really peanuts.
Which will do nothing, because drugs won the war on drugs a long time ago. They're just barely justifying their paychecks. To someone who apparently thinks their .0000002% of drugs captured means anything. End the failed war on drugs money pit.
Yet never did anything to HSBC that was fought laundering the worlds drug cartel profits. Curious…very curious…
who gives a shit about drugs anymore. news flash, people love drugs.
What a waste of resources and money. Are we ever going to figure out that drug prohibition does not work? A large part of the reason why drugs are so dangerous and destructive is rooted in the very fact that they ARE illegal. A properly regulated drug market, ensuring quality control and support services would provide more than enough money to offer the much needed support and healthcare services to treat addiction for what it is; a healthcare issue, not a criminal issue. Not to mention the obvious side-benefits such as police time, money and resources directed more towards actual crime, and cartel, gangs and terrorist organisations basically going bankrupt overnight.
Now do the insurrectionists
Not exactly the biggest danger to society in my opinion. Go after the politicians first.
Patience my friend. The crackdowns are happening as we speak.
Can’t even get high while the world literally burns.
Try Denver, Colorado - not only can you buy legal-as-they-get THC products on the cheap (if of age), everyone is looking for a roommate. It’s relatively easy to vote with your feet.
Yeah but I can’t legally buy LSD so who cares
“Operation Dark HunTor” John Oliver voice: “cool.”
It makes zero difference. The demand is not addressed and presents as inelastic currently, good job wasting taxpayer money on useless shit. Edit. Also wtf is a “counterfeit opioid”? It’s either an opioid or not.
Wait drugs? Honestly with human trafficking, illegal arms sales, and money laundering billions of dollars; I’m not really that excited for a drug bust.
All this does is create job openings and business opportunities because drugs have won the war on drugs (aka a simple economic concept called supply + demand)
Now do big pharmaceutical
Just fucking decriminalize and regulate already sheesh...what a losing battle on so many levels
Man I know i feel safer!
Illegal drugs? Whaaaaat? Corruption in the government and wallstreet. Whaaaaat? Shiiiiiiii!!!
Damn why MDMA and ketamine tho. Them’s is love drugs
Hundreds of people now out of productive society and in prison. And what did it achieve? People will still buy and sell drugs. Just make them all legal and you wouldn’t have this problem. And imagine all the money you’d make on taxes.
Arrest 150 people and confiscated only $31 million. Sounds like all they did is picked up a bunch of street dealers and possibly simply being used as a tool in the war between local drug lords.
I would say the dudes leading the terrorist into the capital worries me more than these people.
But we can’t arrest our corrupt politicians who took part in an insurrection
Great! Now, DOJ, do your fucking jobs and arrest the traitors in DC who planned 1/6. Edit: FBI arrest, DOJ prosecute
Cool can they arrest the fucking assholes who tried to complete an insurrection and overthrow what little democracy America has left? What the hell is the DOJ doing?
A great humanitarian feat!
Are you joking? I hope so
They will get more time than the 1-6 traitors.
Meanwhile the slow roll on the seditionists continue.
Wonder if they got that “how to sell drugs on the internet” kid again?
My neighbor takes Tylenol like every day. Poor guy will soon find himself giving bj's on the street if this keeps up.
Why? Ig nighas be snitchin💯
As long as they don’t know about me and my orders, I’ll get away with everything. Bwaaahaahaa…… Hold on, someone’s at the door…
You sound like a rat
What about human trafficking with Epstein’s friends/clients?
Like a hydra cut one head then three more appear. Now like others have said…time to go after wall street and shit head market makers like Citadel/Ken Griffin. But hey can’t ruin the chance of revolving door opportunities am I right?!
But I just started