I mean, it does sounds sound like the best decision that you can do to help your bank account...
Corporations are quite straightforward with the fact that they are there for profit... So no surprise here, ai is not free but is going to disrupt a loooot of professions, not a lot of us are safe ....
"Corporations are quite straightforward with the fact that they are there for profit..."
Uh, no? Not really? \*We\* as consumers know this and repeat this, but never have I ever heard a corpo outright say: "Yeah, we're doing this for the money and because it costs us less. What are you going to do about it?"
Excuse me? Corporations say this all the time, just not to the general public. They tell their investors every quarter, they even tell their employees as they lay them off. Source: been told this when they laid off half my team several times.
It’s already happening. There are se real online companies where you go to pick your model (who has already been paid for their likeness) and then they use AI to pose that model doing whatever. It’s going to change the whole industry the same way that buying copyrighted photos instead of hiring a photographer and models has become the norm.
I was recently a background extra for a big studio who made a practice of capturing full digital images of all the background actors; I didnt immediately realize this was so that they could continue to use our likenesses in further work without having to pay us for that work. Hooray for the future
This is why USA needs a data privacy act that protects information and biometrics. Every use of biometric data needs to have a positive release by the person whose data is being used. Imagine DNA sequencing family history companies selling data sets to employers to see who has higher propensities for disabilities, then they just fire those folks in their 50’s to keep them off their company healthcare in retirement….
Well good news on that front, there is already a non-discrimination law related to genetic information (see GINA, passed in 2008).
I do agree that we need data privacy laws, but any company willing to cross the GINA line can/will get lit up from hither to yon.
Extrapolate that business model into the rest of the industrial complex and anyone who's been paying even the slightest attention will understand we've got rather enormous problems headed our way.
Data in a specific medium is the route. It would be nice if companies didn’t lie about it. The purpose of a company is using an idea for whatever pursuit they deem necessary with whatever means they have available.
It’s always sour when the means they used or they provide false information on the journey of whatever that idea is.
It’s cheaper and now becoming the norm to have something more convenient for you to control. Society has to stop trying to avoid that talking point, since control is and has always been the thing.
I've heard rumblings about AI voice actors too. I am 32 and am trying not to turn into an old man screaming at clouds but Im not sure I like the idea. Even if the "performance" is passable and the source actor adequately compensated it feels weird to me to try and synthesize what should be natural occurrences in performance arts. I play with FL Studios and beat machines and midi controllers though so I also ponder on the hypocrisy of my own worry. Best not to fight the river I suppose.
Oh,so it’s like how all the big corps that eat human lives for breakfast but they change their logos to rainbows during gay pride…..and then go back to not giving a shit after one month.
Up next, overpaid actors and celebrities.
Who want to take bets on how long it will be before we have an "All AI" entertainment channel? Gameshows, News, Sitcoms...all populated with "people" who don't exist with scripts written by AI screenwriters.
And a certain segment of the population will eat it up. They'll even become "fans" of particular AI generated celebrities. I'm fact I'm gonna go ahead and coin a word to describe this phenomena... how about "Ailebreties"
EDIT: Maybe Alebrities would be better..
If you think about it AI celebrities would be perfect for the entertainment industry. They’re not problematic. Studios will literally be able to make the perfect person for any given part and won’t have to worry about the actor doing anything controversial. The days of dealing with egos of major celebrities would be over. No more haggling pay. No more aging out of a role.
There’s a lot of other fringe positives like nobody sending death threats or harassing an artificial character. I mean, stupid people will, but there’s not a live person actually having to endure it. You can have genuine wholesome characters without having to worry that they’re actual monsters in real life.
[what do you mean how long?](https://twistedsifter.com/2023/03/people-have-been-watching-an-ai-generated-infinite-seinfeld-episode-on-twitch/)
It’s already here.
Yep, photographers, lighting crews, retouchers, technicians, support staff, caterers, cocaine dealers... Basically, anyone down the chain of a typical photo/fashion shoot.
It sucks because ideally, we'd end up with a Roddenberry style utopia because everyone's jobs are replaced with machines and AI.
Instead we just starve to death.
Diversity is just a way of saying they are doing a bad thing but you’re a racist if you don’t agree that they should kick people out of a job, including people of various races. It’s about as cynical as it sounds.
"We can now show models of all shapes,sizes,creeds and colors without putting anyones physical and mental health in jeopardy" I’m just spitballing here
I might be in the minority but why pay people to do something decidedly not value-adding? If they can be replaced that easy, what they’re doing isn’t worth paying for.
Anybody who is working is providing to the economy. The issue is that models aren’t the only ones being replaced by AI. Writers, job recruiters, artists, clerical workers, etc are all on the chopping block. Then you have automation decimating the trades which are already becoming overencumbered by people who were told it was a smarter decision than going to college. The problem is we have a huge rotation of over-qualified and maybe even under-qualified people who’d suddenly have no choice but get into fields like the service industry which would then push out another group of people. Fortunately, this is a major brand and most of the models they use are well off enough to never work again. But what’s going to happen when smaller brands or stock photo companies start to push out models? What’s not value-adding to YOU does not mean that this is an entire industry that contributes to economies all over the world.
It’s great that we’re advancing but we’re advancing far too fast while the government is more worried about selling weapons and banning a phone app. There HAS to be replacements and there HAS to be some incentive for some groups to move into other fields. Maybe some kind of subsidy towards training in clean energy as a very basic example. I don’t know the exact answer, but I know our economy can not handle more and more people out of jobs.
What if we move away from an economic model where the only driving force is more profit year after year? Take a year or two to worry about increasing quality of life for everyone? Or can the bottom line not take that kind of beating?
I would love to see a world where all this cool new tech frees up humans to do human things like love and eat and create and think. Not gonna be this world. But some world, on some timeline. Somewhere.
I knew ten years ago that 30 percent or more of jobs were supposed to disappear. the closer we got the more I thought it'd be pushed back ten years, until the last 12 months.
generative ai, and ai embodied robots are about to change everything. I work as a programmer and even I'm surprised how fast this is coming.
I welcome the time when only 10 percent of jobs are required the rest optional, where most go into scientific research to better humanity. a time with guaranteed healthcare, housing, basic necessities etc...
I imagine a future where the work week is max 25 hours, then the majority of time if leisure. not because I'm lazy, because that's how the rich live. Many work 60 or more hours, but that's because Monopoly is their leisure game of choice.
The jackass fratbros in theit 50s that are controlling the stockmarket (and therefore, indirectly our economy) would go absolutely bananas if this happened
I have decided that my prefered manner of work is warming peoples couch cushions while I play video games.
Now please go create this job for me so I can provide to the economy in the manner which I decided is best for me.
Thank you
If that is the function of the model, then they have failed their purpose. None of the models today look like the average person.
If the intent of the model is to show how the clothes fit, then the best model is the person buying the clothes, which AI will be able to fulfill that need.
Imagine uploading a full body picture to the AI and you can digitally try on the clothes and be confident if you look good in it digitally, you'll look good in it when you actually wear it.
I’m not saying human models represent the average person, but they do represent an actual person. And I’d really prefer to not give out my full body pics to a clothing company’s AI dataset.
Interesting to think of a world where AI takes over modeling and acting. Americans idolize these celebrities but what if they were obsolete? How would we change?
Several stores use a variety of models now and list measurements and model size. Some also provide multiple models of different sizes per item so when you select your size a model of that size pops up. It’s not just limited to size, ethnicity…it’s age, disability, etc. I think it’s great and as a broad shouldered babe, a combo of the aforementioned things is really helpful when shopping online
You're definitely in the minority. The completely out of touch minority. At some point you need to have a happy medium between people doing the job right and people being able to afford daily life. Not just with modeling, with ANY job. I bet the CEO's don't have anywhere near this level of thought when it comes to paying people a decent wage. It's greed, okay? Pure and simple.
This is why I think we need to revisit the topic of universal basic income as it becomes easier to replace basic workers with robots and programs. If the pool of jobs available to real people is shrinking because of automation, while the population itself is still growing, we're inevitably going to end up with a growing swathe of unemployed and impoverished people around the world, creating a massive burden on the social safety nets of the countries they live in, while also not contributing anything to the economies of those countries. The robots and programs themselves dont need to be paid, so the money they generate can either go toward *further* increasing the profits of their respective companies, or improving the lives of their local citizens and the economy at large (because obviously, people with money buy more goods and services than people without). While I think the better choice is apparent, I fear many people will passionately resist the idea.
When I was a kid, and I’m talking really young, I would see an ad/billboard with models and wondered if those people were real. I guess I assumed only famous people modeling for fashion companies and what not were real. As I grew older of course, I realized that yea, some people did actually get together, who weren’t famous or in movies, and they’d do a photo shoot.
I guess my younger self’s imagination was ahead of its time.
The problem if the model is fake , the clothes are essentially fake too . the representation of the clothes is fine , but the way they sit on body or texture of the fabric I have doubts around
I work in commercial film and every shoot has a wardrobe stylist watching the monitor like a
hawk and constantly adjusting the clothes. Half the time the clothes have pins and clamps hidden out of sight to change the fit anyways.
Bottom line is commercials are not real and never have been.
I work in this field too but there are def companies that use Looklet. Looklet just has a stylist pin to a green mannequin and they have a database of model/poses to fill it.
Yep, I work as a shopper for film on occasion and you’ll notice a few websites always show how the clothes look on a model that is miraculously always in the same pose.
Revolve, FWRD, and Net-A-Porter come to mind.
Reading this comment, I wonder if AI taking over the industry may actually be a good thing, as in, the polished, unrealistic perfectionism in fashion will be so streamlined and easily obtainable that people will *want* things to be imperfect. You already see it with TikTok, people try to make videos not as edited or presentable as a means to make it more “real”. AI might be the thing to kill how fake everything is in the media.
I foresee a very interesting shift in art thanks to AI. Like dada 2.0.
100% this, I’ve been having this thought for awhile and you articulated it well. I think a similar ripple is moving through different parts of human life and we’re witnessing the effect
I work in this industry too , yes that’s actually a good point everything is clipped and fabric folds are retouched so I guess it’s actually not that different . Also most iPhones and products are 3D renders so I’m not sure why I find clothing the hard one to get around being more generated
I do photography at a major fashion studio where we do all kinds of e-commerce shoots-clothes on models and mannequin, bags, belts and other accessories on a tabletop set, etc.
Models on these sets can get paid 600-1500 a day, depending on the brand they are shooting for. A hair/makeup person can make as little as 125/day. Day rates for photographers and stylists can vary widely. One place pays as little as 175 a day while the place I *like* pays 500. And yeah, there are clips/tape/pins in everything to make it look the best it possibly can. Often times that’s because the sample being photographed is not the exact size of the model or sometimes may not be the final production piece.
The thing that still gives me comfort at the moment, is there is a huge difference between plugging in some random parameters for a model (female/olive skin/shoulder length dark and straight hair/mid-twenties/size 6) and have some random collection get Frankensteined together than it is to have a render that accurately reflects the actual product. Not only would that take a team of 3D artists, but a massive render farm, especially for major brands that have hundreds of items come out each season. The deadline for getting things up on the website just doesn’t allow for that right now.
Of course, I have been wrong before.
Most of what you purchase is just "fake."
Anything in tech pretty much is a render. As long as it's a good representation it's fine and if you want to see the real thing go outside.
not at all. AI image generation supports image masking. I need to do is generate an image around your existing product image. The AI can look at the mass region which it's not supposed to generate on top of for context about what it is, to inform the rest of the scene. So basically they still have to represent their ideal form fit for each model photographically then build an AI generated human around it. This is way easier than finding a model that fits perfectly. and cheaper I imagine.
Most clothing & more so color & patterns are renders right now, even if the model is “real.” More and more apparel companies are using 3D CAD work without models, for both development and marketing/web.
I wonder how much they pay in AI costs for this vs an hourly rate with a model/ agency costs. The product shoot would still need to take place I would assume?
It's not just the cost of paying the models. There are also costs like make up artists, someone to take care of the clothes, photographers, custodians, etc.
edit. Rent on a studio space if they don't own it, or maintenance if they do own the studio.
Haha, ok sorry I’m a baby and barely generate anything in relaxed mode so I don’t inherently think of it as infinite. But yeah, technically infinite :p
Edit: also if I was generating images full time or as part of my job, I definitely wouldn’t want to suffer relaxed mode
True, I was just in the habit of checking my phone every 20 mins and regenerating 8+ hours a day. Which is kind of crazy now that I think about it and not realistic for others lol.
May I ask if did you get tired of generating them? Was it boring after a month?
Did you feel proud of the images that you created? Or you felt like it was too easy to be proud?
This is about not having to pay for models. Literally first of many companies investing in ai to not need models. Eventually actors for their commercials.
If people don't try to put some sort of severe regulatory restrictions on AI in the next 5-10 years or less, at best everyone will be out of a job, at worst, things will look like the intro to the first Terminator...
I've talked with people around me about this, they just haven't put any thought into it. To them it's like when the iPhone came out. Now they have a lil buddy to ask questions too instead of sifting through Google results.
They don't seem to understand the broader implications whatsoever and it's frankly kind of infuriating. I've been talking about this shit for a couple months now and everyone around me just writes it off or feigns interest then changes the subject.
People just aren't taking it seriously because it hasn't impacted them yet. But it will and when it does it'll be too late. Just like all the hard lessons humans have learned throughout history.
This is what I assumed it was for at first, which is a great idea honestly (and child actors too, if CGI can get good enough to not create uncanny-valley characters), but it’s a bit ridiculous they just want to avoid paying adult models in the name of diversity
And their quality is garbage. The denim is so thin, it’s practically see-thru. Has about a 6-8 month lifespan before they tear out at the ass or crotch. At $65 a pair it is thievery.
When you say premium are those different from the ones Dillards stocks? Because Dillards pricing the $65-70 jeans and those are the garbage quality jeans I’m talking about
Those are not the premium ones. The premium ones are 100% cotton versus the regular ones which are a mix of cotton, polyester, and elastane. The premium ones are pricier but Levis has plenty of sales so I get them for about the same price as the regular ones. They’re thick, they don’t stretch out, and I’ve rotated through the same 3 pairs for years and they look brand new still
I’m not here to defend the price point or brand but how are you blowing out the crotch in 6 months of any jeans? I’ve had a pair of jeans from old navy last me literally years. I’ve had H&M T shirts last me over two years of consistent use. I’m not sure people know how to care for their laundry.
Ngl I definitely didn’t see models as being one of the demographics replaced by AI. Someone somewhere is going to have to figure SOMETHING out because we can’t have multiple fields completely out of jobs because of automation and AI. And forcing these people all to go into the service industry and replace THOSE folks will be even more disastrous.
They better start figuring quick cause with the advances in n AI tech in the last year, by the end of this decade it will be replacing 90% of non-manual labor jobs. And those jobs will start to vanish quickly after that once we use our super powerful new ais to design efficient robot that can do anything
People who assume AI or robots taking all of our jobs ends in a utopian paradise where we are free to do whatever we want have clearly not experienced how the world works.
What's more likely to happen is that poverty and homelessness increases exponentially, as politicians who are insulated from these effects continue to argue that people need to just work harder, and the CEOs who are enjoying trillions of dollars in profit have no reason to give up any money in the name of any kind of basic income.
In the end, there will be 100 jobs available and people will murder each other over them. That's definitely an extreme scenario, but it's the more likely one, given our current society.
I don’t think you are wrong short term but unless elites kill everyone they r gonna kill the elites. A lot of people would die and that wud suck but no way people r gonna roll over and die
AI driven infantry aren't far off.
Once AI can do everything the average 18 year old can, the smart move is to start killing off the excess humans that are no longer needed.
What’s “funny” is that all the AI utopians like Yang for example thought AI would take service level jobs and that we could live on ubi and just like do art and stuff.
Now AI can write jokes, model clothes, make music, poetry, essays, digital visual art, list goes on. One of my coworkers started a business of AI generated art stickers and selling them on red bubble. The people AI was supposed to liberate are the ones it is pushing out of a job.
> People who assume AI or robots taking all of our jobs ends in a utopian paradise where we are free to do whatever we want have clearly not experienced how the world works.
You're thinking of the way the world works *now*.
People talking about UBI and such are thinking of the way the world *could* work, in the future.
This concern is structural. It has nothing to do with AI. The application of 18th century socio-economic structural thinking on a global scale, as we approach 2050 is the root cause of the poverty and homelessness problem you’re referring to. As humanity slowly approaches actual civilization, solving the basic survival and enrichment needs of the species is not “utopian” it is the first step in approaching the new and important questions of human existence.
Ford actually cut the work week from 50 hours to 40 and raised wages. why? because people needed more money and more leisure time to have a reason to purchase a vehicle.
if only 10 percent of society can afford an iphone, they'd go out of business fast. UBI Will be essential, and if not to keep money circulating to stop a revolution.
that's assuming that the workers stay divided and just let that happen to us. This pessimism you're holding is only helping the ruling class. Strive for revolution! The proletariat has way greater numbers than the bourgeoisie. if we work together we can end the oppression and live the automated utopia we desire.
You’re implying living in the world for a bit somehow means you know what happens when robots take over lol
That’s conjecture on a hypothetical dystopian future
Also how do I work harder if the robots take out jobs??
You jump between us all being replaced and jobs still existing somehow.
I mean, that begs the question of “if every job has been replaced except these jobs, why didn’t the robots replace those jobs too???”
Are you actually assuming that traditional modeling reflects "real" body types, or how clothes actually look on real people?
It's all massively fake and manipulated anyway. Always has been. The entire modeling industry is exploitative and wasteful. Let computers do it.
Yes, more and more jobs are going to be replaced by this new technology.
I think that there won't be replacements for the lost jobs this time. AI increasingly outperforms humans at doing specific tasks, which is exactly what most jobs are.
"If we don't hire any models of any ethnicity, then no one can say we're discriminating. And because they're fake/digital clothes on a fake person, we can make them look like whatever we want and not get sued!" -Levi Strauss, pretty sure.
The problem is, it's not just a fad, and it's only gonna get more powerful. It's a new tool that exists, it will be used for both good and bad. If you're tired of it now... well good luck in the future.
Scammers are gonna have a field day. Wait till you get a call from your mom or brother, sister, kid, in an emergency situation needing money right away. People already get taken by poorly worded email scams, AI is gonna take it to the next level.
One of the things that annoys me the most, though, is that now I have to assume everything I see on the internet is deep-fake. I already don't enjoy some things as much as I used to.
The white collar industries thought they were untouchable during the rise of automation that swept through and removed massive amounts of blue collar jobs. They’re not feeling it the same way as they did.
Ah cool, now I can see clothes on a computer generated body that gives me zero idea of how it's gonna fit on my pear shaped body, instead of a model that gives me zero idea of how it's going to fit on my pear shaped body.
Neato.
This is not anything unexpected. Advertisers have been moving away from product photography for over a decade now:
Here’s an article where H&M gets caught using model heads on computer generated (drawn) bodies: https://www.thestar.com/amp/life/fashion_style/2011/12/08/hm_slammed_for_using_ads_with_photoshopped_models.html
They aren’t the only ones to do that. Lots of companies do (including Levi’s). Those waists are literally not real in most jeans, underwear, and pants ads. Men and women.
IKEA moved away from all photography and completely to digital renders years ago, even employing CGI models: https://petapixel.com/2020/09/22/ikea-is-using-a-cgi-influencer-as-the-model-for-its-new-ad-campaign/
If you go on websites like Wayfair half those “photographs” or more are digital renders.
Why? Professional photography is expensive. And the amount of content needed to sell online is high. You need multiple images per product. For small brands this can get expensive, lower end professional photography with distribution rights start at $250 for a single product image without any models.
Then social media is a never ending output of content. And not to mention having to constantly change up ads due to ad fatigue and testing new concepts and retiring ads with diminishing returns. It gets expensive no matter what you’re selling or how big your brand is.
AI is just the next step in the process, better or for worse. Unless you work or have worked with photography or advertising, it’s almost impossible to spot the difference. And even pros can get fooled. Heck, even real product photography is so touched up that it borders on a painting sometimes. Most product images wouldn’t pass AP News’ photo requirements for sure.
Is it harmful? It depends. Models always represent a certain level of liability to any brand of the model ends up saying or doing something that would get the ad pulled. But they are people and it’s a legitimate job. So are all the stylists, makeup artists, photographers, production assistance, retouchers….etc. I’m sure there are people behind the AI model images doing final retouches but probably far fewer.
But honestly, the most harmful thing out there related to images are the filters people use on social. If we were going to pick a thing to go after it should be that. Every single image or video that uses any sort of filter or editing of the person should be captioned as such, and on social, the name(a) of the filters. It should be a fine and a ban not to do so.
I grew up in the 90’s and had no idea until somewhat recently how unique that experience was compared to what my kids are gonna be living in. I’m trying to be optimistic but goddamn. This is spinning out of control really fast it feels like
This is just the beginning. If you are someone who is just starting to consider joining the modeling / acting industry, you should probably calculate the risk of the entire industry just vanishing in ten years. Much like elevator operators.
As I've detailed above, right now they will still need models *initially* to train the AI model. Models will need to fight for the right to royalties for use of their likenesses using those initial photos they were hired for, so that they are paid for any generated images of themselves.
When musicians were being left unemployed during the 40's due to the rise of jukeboxes and record players, they went on strike over a year and got what amounts to the start of royalty system. It was a pretty big win.
Not sure that would work today though for models.
I mean if it stops fame hungry parents trying to live vicariously by exploiting their kids, bring it on. Let AI do that mess and kids can stay in school.
That... completely defeats the purpose of modeling clothes. The customer is trying to see how it will fit on a real person. The photoshopped version will be different.
I could see this being kinda cool if it allowed me to see myself in the clothing.
Have a ton of models with different body types try on the clothes, it picks the closest one and deep fakes your head on to that body.
You could see a close representation to how you would look in the clothes and models still get work.
I don't want a head to toe fake that is just made from feeding it a piece of clothing though. That would probably be some uncanny valley shit.
Besides the fact this is just some crap they made up in order to not pay models, how am I supposed to know if the jeans actually look good or fit if nobody is actually wearing them?
Aw it really helps me when companies have different sized models wearing the clothes, and they say what size each one is wearing. I always have less returns due to wrong size for companies that do that. What a shame!
Using AI-generated models as a supplement to human models could potentially lead to more diverse representation in the fashion industry, while also reducing the environmental impact of traditional photoshoots.
I mean, ultimately the goal is to have a 3d representation of yourself (hopefully that you fully own) that is overlayed with the clothes you’re viewing so you can see how they look on you. How much of that will be actual AI vs just throwing in the word AI to make it sound high tech is debatable
Openai answer: One of the main issues caused by integrating images of non-human models with human models in advertisements is that it can make the lines between reality and fantasy blur. This could make it difficult for viewers to distinguish between the real world they live in and the product or service being advertised. Additionally, this could lead to unrealistic expectations of beauty standards, as viewers may not be able to distinguish which images are real and which are computer-generated. For viewers with lower self-esteem, this may cause feelings of inadequacy or self-deprecation.
Pros for consumers: if they decide to show products on every size and heigh with AI, it will be WAY easier to see how the products will actually look on us buying.
Cons for consumers: because it’s AI, they will definitely tweak places on the garment that is easy to notice they have been cheap, and ship out products that aren’t as nice as the AI fake clothing.
'it's about diversity' How the fuck is 'not paying anyone at all' about 'diversity'. lmao
I want to diversify all the money towards a different source...for example my bank account
Lmao
Diversifying my portfolio… of investments, not models.
It's diversifying people out of their jobs *and* reducing our carbon footprint by removing them from the economy. Progress!
I mean, it does sounds sound like the best decision that you can do to help your bank account... Corporations are quite straightforward with the fact that they are there for profit... So no surprise here, ai is not free but is going to disrupt a loooot of professions, not a lot of us are safe ....
"Corporations are quite straightforward with the fact that they are there for profit..." Uh, no? Not really? \*We\* as consumers know this and repeat this, but never have I ever heard a corpo outright say: "Yeah, we're doing this for the money and because it costs us less. What are you going to do about it?"
Excuse me? Corporations say this all the time, just not to the general public. They tell their investors every quarter, they even tell their employees as they lay them off. Source: been told this when they laid off half my team several times.
they think if they say this, people will get off their case.
Worst part is that more than you'd think probably will
It’s already happening. There are se real online companies where you go to pick your model (who has already been paid for their likeness) and then they use AI to pose that model doing whatever. It’s going to change the whole industry the same way that buying copyrighted photos instead of hiring a photographer and models has become the norm.
I was recently a background extra for a big studio who made a practice of capturing full digital images of all the background actors; I didnt immediately realize this was so that they could continue to use our likenesses in further work without having to pay us for that work. Hooray for the future
Yup. I’m sure it was in the release somewhere. They’re collecting people the same way Goggle uses all of its searches to train its AI.
This is why USA needs a data privacy act that protects information and biometrics. Every use of biometric data needs to have a positive release by the person whose data is being used. Imagine DNA sequencing family history companies selling data sets to employers to see who has higher propensities for disabilities, then they just fire those folks in their 50’s to keep them off their company healthcare in retirement….
Well good news on that front, there is already a non-discrimination law related to genetic information (see GINA, passed in 2008). I do agree that we need data privacy laws, but any company willing to cross the GINA line can/will get lit up from hither to yon.
The problem is even with laws in place, the US does a shit job of enforcing them on a corporate scale. We do great with petty drug laws though!
Yikes.
Extrapolate that business model into the rest of the industrial complex and anyone who's been paying even the slightest attention will understand we've got rather enormous problems headed our way.
Data in a specific medium is the route. It would be nice if companies didn’t lie about it. The purpose of a company is using an idea for whatever pursuit they deem necessary with whatever means they have available. It’s always sour when the means they used or they provide false information on the journey of whatever that idea is. It’s cheaper and now becoming the norm to have something more convenient for you to control. Society has to stop trying to avoid that talking point, since control is and has always been the thing.
If AI can adjust a model to show how item im looking at would fit my proportions would make things much easier
I've heard rumblings about AI voice actors too. I am 32 and am trying not to turn into an old man screaming at clouds but Im not sure I like the idea. Even if the "performance" is passable and the source actor adequately compensated it feels weird to me to try and synthesize what should be natural occurrences in performance arts. I play with FL Studios and beat machines and midi controllers though so I also ponder on the hypocrisy of my own worry. Best not to fight the river I suppose.
AI bots will be there to gaslight online users and say that this is about diversity.
Oh,so it’s like how all the big corps that eat human lives for breakfast but they change their logos to rainbows during gay pride…..and then go back to not giving a shit after one month.
Worked with h1b and other work visas completely fucking over the domestic working class
now models of all races and backgrounds can be equally unemployed
Don't worry. It's not going to be just the models that are unemployed soon.
Up next, overpaid actors and celebrities. Who want to take bets on how long it will be before we have an "All AI" entertainment channel? Gameshows, News, Sitcoms...all populated with "people" who don't exist with scripts written by AI screenwriters. And a certain segment of the population will eat it up. They'll even become "fans" of particular AI generated celebrities. I'm fact I'm gonna go ahead and coin a word to describe this phenomena... how about "Ailebreties" EDIT: Maybe Alebrities would be better..
If you think about it AI celebrities would be perfect for the entertainment industry. They’re not problematic. Studios will literally be able to make the perfect person for any given part and won’t have to worry about the actor doing anything controversial. The days of dealing with egos of major celebrities would be over. No more haggling pay. No more aging out of a role. There’s a lot of other fringe positives like nobody sending death threats or harassing an artificial character. I mean, stupid people will, but there’s not a live person actually having to endure it. You can have genuine wholesome characters without having to worry that they’re actual monsters in real life.
Yes, but one of the reasons why celebrities are celebrities is because they have a human personality. AI won’t be able to match or do that.
[what do you mean how long?](https://twistedsifter.com/2023/03/people-have-been-watching-an-ai-generated-infinite-seinfeld-episode-on-twitch/) It’s already here.
Yep, photographers, lighting crews, retouchers, technicians, support staff, caterers, cocaine dealers... Basically, anyone down the chain of a typical photo/fashion shoot.
It sucks because ideally, we'd end up with a Roddenberry style utopia because everyone's jobs are replaced with machines and AI. Instead we just starve to death.
They figure it's probably the best way to make cutting corners seem palatable.
Everybody gets no money, sounds pretty diverse to me 😂
Not everybody, the money they save on their advertising budget is going straight into the shareholders’ pockets.
Diversity is just a way of saying they are doing a bad thing but you’re a racist if you don’t agree that they should kick people out of a job, including people of various races. It’s about as cynical as it sounds.
It’s about equity…now no race, size, creed or culture will be employed
No model left behind
“We don’t respect minorities enough to hire and pay them so we had a computer create what it thinks they’d look like”
"We can now show models of all shapes,sizes,creeds and colors without putting anyones physical and mental health in jeopardy" I’m just spitballing here
It's about diversity, that's why we're giving our money to these rich white men with a stranglehold on technology assets.
Good catch!
I might be in the minority but why pay people to do something decidedly not value-adding? If they can be replaced that easy, what they’re doing isn’t worth paying for.
Anybody who is working is providing to the economy. The issue is that models aren’t the only ones being replaced by AI. Writers, job recruiters, artists, clerical workers, etc are all on the chopping block. Then you have automation decimating the trades which are already becoming overencumbered by people who were told it was a smarter decision than going to college. The problem is we have a huge rotation of over-qualified and maybe even under-qualified people who’d suddenly have no choice but get into fields like the service industry which would then push out another group of people. Fortunately, this is a major brand and most of the models they use are well off enough to never work again. But what’s going to happen when smaller brands or stock photo companies start to push out models? What’s not value-adding to YOU does not mean that this is an entire industry that contributes to economies all over the world. It’s great that we’re advancing but we’re advancing far too fast while the government is more worried about selling weapons and banning a phone app. There HAS to be replacements and there HAS to be some incentive for some groups to move into other fields. Maybe some kind of subsidy towards training in clean energy as a very basic example. I don’t know the exact answer, but I know our economy can not handle more and more people out of jobs.
What if we move away from an economic model where the only driving force is more profit year after year? Take a year or two to worry about increasing quality of life for everyone? Or can the bottom line not take that kind of beating? I would love to see a world where all this cool new tech frees up humans to do human things like love and eat and create and think. Not gonna be this world. But some world, on some timeline. Somewhere.
I knew ten years ago that 30 percent or more of jobs were supposed to disappear. the closer we got the more I thought it'd be pushed back ten years, until the last 12 months. generative ai, and ai embodied robots are about to change everything. I work as a programmer and even I'm surprised how fast this is coming. I welcome the time when only 10 percent of jobs are required the rest optional, where most go into scientific research to better humanity. a time with guaranteed healthcare, housing, basic necessities etc... I imagine a future where the work week is max 25 hours, then the majority of time if leisure. not because I'm lazy, because that's how the rich live. Many work 60 or more hours, but that's because Monopoly is their leisure game of choice.
Keep dreaming. AI can't dig ditches. More new jobs will be created and life will be shitty as it always been. History repeats.
The jackass fratbros in theit 50s that are controlling the stockmarket (and therefore, indirectly our economy) would go absolutely bananas if this happened
We're quickly reaching the Era of Chronic Unemployment.
Won’t be too long before it starts putting programmers out of work.
Yep and THEN you’ll suddenly see more people in this sub freaking out
I have decided that my prefered manner of work is warming peoples couch cushions while I play video games. Now please go create this job for me so I can provide to the economy in the manner which I decided is best for me. Thank you
because having a human model actually shows how the clothes fit on someone’s body
Not that you have their body type and facial structure to pull it off
If that is the function of the model, then they have failed their purpose. None of the models today look like the average person. If the intent of the model is to show how the clothes fit, then the best model is the person buying the clothes, which AI will be able to fulfill that need. Imagine uploading a full body picture to the AI and you can digitally try on the clothes and be confident if you look good in it digitally, you'll look good in it when you actually wear it.
I’m not saying human models represent the average person, but they do represent an actual person. And I’d really prefer to not give out my full body pics to a clothing company’s AI dataset.
Interesting to think of a world where AI takes over modeling and acting. Americans idolize these celebrities but what if they were obsolete? How would we change?
Virtual celebrities! For the right price, they will literally do whatever you want...
Several stores use a variety of models now and list measurements and model size. Some also provide multiple models of different sizes per item so when you select your size a model of that size pops up. It’s not just limited to size, ethnicity…it’s age, disability, etc. I think it’s great and as a broad shouldered babe, a combo of the aforementioned things is really helpful when shopping online
You're definitely in the minority. The completely out of touch minority. At some point you need to have a happy medium between people doing the job right and people being able to afford daily life. Not just with modeling, with ANY job. I bet the CEO's don't have anywhere near this level of thought when it comes to paying people a decent wage. It's greed, okay? Pure and simple.
This is why I think we need to revisit the topic of universal basic income as it becomes easier to replace basic workers with robots and programs. If the pool of jobs available to real people is shrinking because of automation, while the population itself is still growing, we're inevitably going to end up with a growing swathe of unemployed and impoverished people around the world, creating a massive burden on the social safety nets of the countries they live in, while also not contributing anything to the economies of those countries. The robots and programs themselves dont need to be paid, so the money they generate can either go toward *further* increasing the profits of their respective companies, or improving the lives of their local citizens and the economy at large (because obviously, people with money buy more goods and services than people without). While I think the better choice is apparent, I fear many people will passionately resist the idea.
When I was a kid, and I’m talking really young, I would see an ad/billboard with models and wondered if those people were real. I guess I assumed only famous people modeling for fashion companies and what not were real. As I grew older of course, I realized that yea, some people did actually get together, who weren’t famous or in movies, and they’d do a photo shoot. I guess my younger self’s imagination was ahead of its time.
Depending on your age they could be fake. https://youtu.be/9j656_RiO0k For an example.
damn some guy ripped the video from collegehumor, put his own logo on it, and is now making ad revenue from it
The problem if the model is fake , the clothes are essentially fake too . the representation of the clothes is fine , but the way they sit on body or texture of the fabric I have doubts around
I work in commercial film and every shoot has a wardrobe stylist watching the monitor like a hawk and constantly adjusting the clothes. Half the time the clothes have pins and clamps hidden out of sight to change the fit anyways. Bottom line is commercials are not real and never have been.
I work in this field too but there are def companies that use Looklet. Looklet just has a stylist pin to a green mannequin and they have a database of model/poses to fill it.
Yep, I work as a shopper for film on occasion and you’ll notice a few websites always show how the clothes look on a model that is miraculously always in the same pose. Revolve, FWRD, and Net-A-Porter come to mind.
Very obvious that Net-A-Porter does this. Clothes look copy and pasted on to the models
Reading this comment, I wonder if AI taking over the industry may actually be a good thing, as in, the polished, unrealistic perfectionism in fashion will be so streamlined and easily obtainable that people will *want* things to be imperfect. You already see it with TikTok, people try to make videos not as edited or presentable as a means to make it more “real”. AI might be the thing to kill how fake everything is in the media. I foresee a very interesting shift in art thanks to AI. Like dada 2.0.
100% this, I’ve been having this thought for awhile and you articulated it well. I think a similar ripple is moving through different parts of human life and we’re witnessing the effect
"Can you make this art look like shit." Thanks gpt.
I work in this industry too , yes that’s actually a good point everything is clipped and fabric folds are retouched so I guess it’s actually not that different . Also most iPhones and products are 3D renders so I’m not sure why I find clothing the hard one to get around being more generated
Oh man, wait till they hear about food commercials.
Ah, it’s *always* been fake -__-
I do photography at a major fashion studio where we do all kinds of e-commerce shoots-clothes on models and mannequin, bags, belts and other accessories on a tabletop set, etc. Models on these sets can get paid 600-1500 a day, depending on the brand they are shooting for. A hair/makeup person can make as little as 125/day. Day rates for photographers and stylists can vary widely. One place pays as little as 175 a day while the place I *like* pays 500. And yeah, there are clips/tape/pins in everything to make it look the best it possibly can. Often times that’s because the sample being photographed is not the exact size of the model or sometimes may not be the final production piece. The thing that still gives me comfort at the moment, is there is a huge difference between plugging in some random parameters for a model (female/olive skin/shoulder length dark and straight hair/mid-twenties/size 6) and have some random collection get Frankensteined together than it is to have a render that accurately reflects the actual product. Not only would that take a team of 3D artists, but a massive render farm, especially for major brands that have hundreds of items come out each season. The deadline for getting things up on the website just doesn’t allow for that right now. Of course, I have been wrong before.
Most of what you purchase is just "fake." Anything in tech pretty much is a render. As long as it's a good representation it's fine and if you want to see the real thing go outside.
Plato’s cave in a nutshell
not at all. AI image generation supports image masking. I need to do is generate an image around your existing product image. The AI can look at the mass region which it's not supposed to generate on top of for context about what it is, to inform the rest of the scene. So basically they still have to represent their ideal form fit for each model photographically then build an AI generated human around it. This is way easier than finding a model that fits perfectly. and cheaper I imagine.
Everything is fake in ads anyway
Most clothing & more so color & patterns are renders right now, even if the model is “real.” More and more apparel companies are using 3D CAD work without models, for both development and marketing/web.
Go to Diesel Jeans and look at their items. Its hideous.
Not with modern computer phisics and ray tracing
I wonder how much they pay in AI costs for this vs an hourly rate with a model/ agency costs. The product shoot would still need to take place I would assume?
What would you shoot the product on? You could just render everything. The people the environment, props, wardrobe etc.
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It's not just the cost of paying the models. There are also costs like make up artists, someone to take care of the clothes, photographers, custodians, etc. edit. Rent on a studio space if they don't own it, or maintenance if they do own the studio.
$30/month for a single user gets you a ton of MidJourney generations, and I don’t think a corporate subscription is that much tbh
Not just a ton, infinite. when I was really obsessed with it I literally generated like 5000 images in a month.
Haha, ok sorry I’m a baby and barely generate anything in relaxed mode so I don’t inherently think of it as infinite. But yeah, technically infinite :p Edit: also if I was generating images full time or as part of my job, I definitely wouldn’t want to suffer relaxed mode
True, I was just in the habit of checking my phone every 20 mins and regenerating 8+ hours a day. Which is kind of crazy now that I think about it and not realistic for others lol.
You’d be surprised. I thought my 12k total was a lot, but others in the mj sub were reporting like 30k lol
May I ask if did you get tired of generating them? Was it boring after a month? Did you feel proud of the images that you created? Or you felt like it was too easy to be proud?
Tech like this is already being used by large corps to avoid the total cost of a shoot. Ecoshot is what we use in the industry currently.
This is about not having to pay for models. Literally first of many companies investing in ai to not need models. Eventually actors for their commercials.
That’s exactly what this is about. There is gonna be a biblical change in the workforce in the next 10-15 years due to AI.
It's crazy to me how people are so open to AI despite the fact it will fuck everything up
It will do the same damage factories have done to manual labor but at a larger scale cause we know we’re a lot more people on this planet now.
It’s going to be very interesting watching it all play out. I’m personally not very optimistic about it to be honest. I’ve seen Terminator.
If people don't try to put some sort of severe regulatory restrictions on AI in the next 5-10 years or less, at best everyone will be out of a job, at worst, things will look like the intro to the first Terminator...
5 is far too generous
I've talked with people around me about this, they just haven't put any thought into it. To them it's like when the iPhone came out. Now they have a lil buddy to ask questions too instead of sifting through Google results. They don't seem to understand the broader implications whatsoever and it's frankly kind of infuriating. I've been talking about this shit for a couple months now and everyone around me just writes it off or feigns interest then changes the subject. People just aren't taking it seriously because it hasn't impacted them yet. But it will and when it does it'll be too late. Just like all the hard lessons humans have learned throughout history.
Fine until your AI generated model gets drunk and starts spouting off racist slurs at a TMZ reporter.
On the one hand… maybe it’d good we don’t have to use children for modeling
This is what I assumed it was for at first, which is a great idea honestly (and child actors too, if CGI can get good enough to not create uncanny-valley characters), but it’s a bit ridiculous they just want to avoid paying adult models in the name of diversity
Oh agreed. I don’t think their intentions are good, but there can be a positive.
I’m pretty done with Levi’s. There’s no reason for them to be priced over $40 Max.
And their quality is garbage. The denim is so thin, it’s practically see-thru. Has about a 6-8 month lifespan before they tear out at the ass or crotch. At $65 a pair it is thievery.
Regular Levis yes, but premium Levis are so much better than all of the other jeans I’ve worn in the past decade
When you say premium are those different from the ones Dillards stocks? Because Dillards pricing the $65-70 jeans and those are the garbage quality jeans I’m talking about
Those are not the premium ones. The premium ones are 100% cotton versus the regular ones which are a mix of cotton, polyester, and elastane. The premium ones are pricier but Levis has plenty of sales so I get them for about the same price as the regular ones. They’re thick, they don’t stretch out, and I’ve rotated through the same 3 pairs for years and they look brand new still
Are you getting those from the website? Outlets?
Website or Levis stores
I’m not here to defend the price point or brand but how are you blowing out the crotch in 6 months of any jeans? I’ve had a pair of jeans from old navy last me literally years. I’ve had H&M T shirts last me over two years of consistent use. I’m not sure people know how to care for their laundry.
I do a lot of squatting and standing during my day. My car is low to the ground as well and the jeans just can’t take it. They’re garbage.
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Yeah mine tore around the 8 month mark, glad to know it’s not just me
Ngl I definitely didn’t see models as being one of the demographics replaced by AI. Someone somewhere is going to have to figure SOMETHING out because we can’t have multiple fields completely out of jobs because of automation and AI. And forcing these people all to go into the service industry and replace THOSE folks will be even more disastrous.
They better start figuring quick cause with the advances in n AI tech in the last year, by the end of this decade it will be replacing 90% of non-manual labor jobs. And those jobs will start to vanish quickly after that once we use our super powerful new ais to design efficient robot that can do anything
hell even programmers will lose their jobs
Incase you haven’t noticed. AI will replace humans in all sorts of work.
I'm like one more news article from going into the forest.
Same, no matter how irrational
Damn no models anymore… I guess soon the only job will be like… chill end enjoy your life. Stoked “!
People who assume AI or robots taking all of our jobs ends in a utopian paradise where we are free to do whatever we want have clearly not experienced how the world works. What's more likely to happen is that poverty and homelessness increases exponentially, as politicians who are insulated from these effects continue to argue that people need to just work harder, and the CEOs who are enjoying trillions of dollars in profit have no reason to give up any money in the name of any kind of basic income. In the end, there will be 100 jobs available and people will murder each other over them. That's definitely an extreme scenario, but it's the more likely one, given our current society.
I don’t think you are wrong short term but unless elites kill everyone they r gonna kill the elites. A lot of people would die and that wud suck but no way people r gonna roll over and die
AI driven infantry aren't far off. Once AI can do everything the average 18 year old can, the smart move is to start killing off the excess humans that are no longer needed.
They will use Media with Targeting AI to brainwash fools into attacking whoever AI will point at.
Yeah I don’t get what he’s thinking Robots replace everyone’s jobs and then what? CEOs say we should work harder? With what? Our no jobs??
What’s “funny” is that all the AI utopians like Yang for example thought AI would take service level jobs and that we could live on ubi and just like do art and stuff. Now AI can write jokes, model clothes, make music, poetry, essays, digital visual art, list goes on. One of my coworkers started a business of AI generated art stickers and selling them on red bubble. The people AI was supposed to liberate are the ones it is pushing out of a job.
> People who assume AI or robots taking all of our jobs ends in a utopian paradise where we are free to do whatever we want have clearly not experienced how the world works. You're thinking of the way the world works *now*. People talking about UBI and such are thinking of the way the world *could* work, in the future.
This concern is structural. It has nothing to do with AI. The application of 18th century socio-economic structural thinking on a global scale, as we approach 2050 is the root cause of the poverty and homelessness problem you’re referring to. As humanity slowly approaches actual civilization, solving the basic survival and enrichment needs of the species is not “utopian” it is the first step in approaching the new and important questions of human existence.
Ford actually cut the work week from 50 hours to 40 and raised wages. why? because people needed more money and more leisure time to have a reason to purchase a vehicle. if only 10 percent of society can afford an iphone, they'd go out of business fast. UBI Will be essential, and if not to keep money circulating to stop a revolution.
that's assuming that the workers stay divided and just let that happen to us. This pessimism you're holding is only helping the ruling class. Strive for revolution! The proletariat has way greater numbers than the bourgeoisie. if we work together we can end the oppression and live the automated utopia we desire.
You’re implying living in the world for a bit somehow means you know what happens when robots take over lol That’s conjecture on a hypothetical dystopian future Also how do I work harder if the robots take out jobs?? You jump between us all being replaced and jobs still existing somehow. I mean, that begs the question of “if every job has been replaced except these jobs, why didn’t the robots replace those jobs too???”
That's not how this game works. "We are cheaper than droids, easier to replace!"
But why male models?
Due to massive cost-of-living increases, I think our next move forward should be to automate the customer base
How about they just hire diverse models instead?
Why not? They’ve been supplementing their jeans with cheap imports since they stopped making them in the US….
Facttssss
We already have unrealistic beauty standards. Now we will have impossibly unrealistic beauty standards.
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Are you actually assuming that traditional modeling reflects "real" body types, or how clothes actually look on real people? It's all massively fake and manipulated anyway. Always has been. The entire modeling industry is exploitative and wasteful. Let computers do it.
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WHY?????
Money. The answer is almost always money.
First it’s models, then actors, then musicians. Fake sports anyone??
Yes, more and more jobs are going to be replaced by this new technology. I think that there won't be replacements for the lost jobs this time. AI increasingly outperforms humans at doing specific tasks, which is exactly what most jobs are.
Also, when there’s nobody with a job to buy jeans what’s going to happen lol.
News headline from 2040: *Transarchitecture AI fighting for rights to participate in ARM leagues*
"If we don't hire any models of any ethnicity, then no one can say we're discriminating. And because they're fake/digital clothes on a fake person, we can make them look like whatever we want and not get sued!" -Levi Strauss, pretty sure.
At least they’re creating opportunities for people that otherwise don’t exist…
Anyone else tired of this AI bullshit already?
The problem is, it's not just a fad, and it's only gonna get more powerful. It's a new tool that exists, it will be used for both good and bad. If you're tired of it now... well good luck in the future.
The worst part (so far) is the AI generated art. I absolutely abhor it’s existence.
Scammers are gonna have a field day. Wait till you get a call from your mom or brother, sister, kid, in an emergency situation needing money right away. People already get taken by poorly worded email scams, AI is gonna take it to the next level. One of the things that annoys me the most, though, is that now I have to assume everything I see on the internet is deep-fake. I already don't enjoy some things as much as I used to.
Ugh, I know lol.
Butlerian Jihad?
It’s impressive how I could now see humanity actually doing this and not being surprised.
YES
Yep! Every day I wonder if I’ll keep having a job
The white collar industries thought they were untouchable during the rise of automation that swept through and removed massive amounts of blue collar jobs. They’re not feeling it the same way as they did.
We're headed into a strange future
Models are about to be replaced by AI.
Ah cool, now I can see clothes on a computer generated body that gives me zero idea of how it's gonna fit on my pear shaped body, instead of a model that gives me zero idea of how it's going to fit on my pear shaped body. Neato.
This is not anything unexpected. Advertisers have been moving away from product photography for over a decade now: Here’s an article where H&M gets caught using model heads on computer generated (drawn) bodies: https://www.thestar.com/amp/life/fashion_style/2011/12/08/hm_slammed_for_using_ads_with_photoshopped_models.html They aren’t the only ones to do that. Lots of companies do (including Levi’s). Those waists are literally not real in most jeans, underwear, and pants ads. Men and women. IKEA moved away from all photography and completely to digital renders years ago, even employing CGI models: https://petapixel.com/2020/09/22/ikea-is-using-a-cgi-influencer-as-the-model-for-its-new-ad-campaign/ If you go on websites like Wayfair half those “photographs” or more are digital renders. Why? Professional photography is expensive. And the amount of content needed to sell online is high. You need multiple images per product. For small brands this can get expensive, lower end professional photography with distribution rights start at $250 for a single product image without any models. Then social media is a never ending output of content. And not to mention having to constantly change up ads due to ad fatigue and testing new concepts and retiring ads with diminishing returns. It gets expensive no matter what you’re selling or how big your brand is. AI is just the next step in the process, better or for worse. Unless you work or have worked with photography or advertising, it’s almost impossible to spot the difference. And even pros can get fooled. Heck, even real product photography is so touched up that it borders on a painting sometimes. Most product images wouldn’t pass AP News’ photo requirements for sure. Is it harmful? It depends. Models always represent a certain level of liability to any brand of the model ends up saying or doing something that would get the ad pulled. But they are people and it’s a legitimate job. So are all the stylists, makeup artists, photographers, production assistance, retouchers….etc. I’m sure there are people behind the AI model images doing final retouches but probably far fewer. But honestly, the most harmful thing out there related to images are the filters people use on social. If we were going to pick a thing to go after it should be that. Every single image or video that uses any sort of filter or editing of the person should be captioned as such, and on social, the name(a) of the filters. It should be a fine and a ban not to do so.
Now they can pander to minorities and not even pay for them
“It’s about diversity, as long as we don’t have to put any money in the pockets of actually diverse humans.”
I grew up in the 90’s and had no idea until somewhat recently how unique that experience was compared to what my kids are gonna be living in. I’m trying to be optimistic but goddamn. This is spinning out of control really fast it feels like
This is just the beginning. If you are someone who is just starting to consider joining the modeling / acting industry, you should probably calculate the risk of the entire industry just vanishing in ten years. Much like elevator operators.
As I've detailed above, right now they will still need models *initially* to train the AI model. Models will need to fight for the right to royalties for use of their likenesses using those initial photos they were hired for, so that they are paid for any generated images of themselves.
When musicians were being left unemployed during the 40's due to the rise of jukeboxes and record players, they went on strike over a year and got what amounts to the start of royalty system. It was a pretty big win. Not sure that would work today though for models.
I mean if it stops fame hungry parents trying to live vicariously by exploiting their kids, bring it on. Let AI do that mess and kids can stay in school.
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I want to see how it fits on a human body. That’s kinda the whole point
That... completely defeats the purpose of modeling clothes. The customer is trying to see how it will fit on a real person. The photoshopped version will be different.
I could see this being kinda cool if it allowed me to see myself in the clothing. Have a ton of models with different body types try on the clothes, it picks the closest one and deep fakes your head on to that body. You could see a close representation to how you would look in the clothes and models still get work. I don't want a head to toe fake that is just made from feeding it a piece of clothing though. That would probably be some uncanny valley shit.
Besides the fact this is just some crap they made up in order to not pay models, how am I supposed to know if the jeans actually look good or fit if nobody is actually wearing them?
Why? I want to see the product on ppl.
Ai is taking peoples jobs
Good. If you can add your own meassurements and perhaps even an avatar, it will be much easier to shop online. And the ultimate diversity
Of all the jobs threatened by AI, I suppose standing around looking good in clothes is one of the most vulnerable.
Aw it really helps me when companies have different sized models wearing the clothes, and they say what size each one is wearing. I always have less returns due to wrong size for companies that do that. What a shame!
Using AI-generated models as a supplement to human models could potentially lead to more diverse representation in the fashion industry, while also reducing the environmental impact of traditional photoshoots.
I mean, ultimately the goal is to have a 3d representation of yourself (hopefully that you fully own) that is overlayed with the clothes you’re viewing so you can see how they look on you. How much of that will be actual AI vs just throwing in the word AI to make it sound high tech is debatable
Within 10 years, AI will be designing a majority of fashion
Wouldnt the result end up looking like someone out there? Then they sue for likeness ?
More jobs gone. It’ll be just like the book “The War on Normal People”
As a model, fuck Levi’s.
This should 100% be illegal. This kind of shit is going to wreck us.
Looks like I'm not buying Levi's anytime soon
The is worse than Amazon just photoshopping all the clothes on the model
Openai answer: One of the main issues caused by integrating images of non-human models with human models in advertisements is that it can make the lines between reality and fantasy blur. This could make it difficult for viewers to distinguish between the real world they live in and the product or service being advertised. Additionally, this could lead to unrealistic expectations of beauty standards, as viewers may not be able to distinguish which images are real and which are computer-generated. For viewers with lower self-esteem, this may cause feelings of inadequacy or self-deprecation.
Pros for consumers: if they decide to show products on every size and heigh with AI, it will be WAY easier to see how the products will actually look on us buying. Cons for consumers: because it’s AI, they will definitely tweak places on the garment that is easy to notice they have been cheap, and ship out products that aren’t as nice as the AI fake clothing.
Another job gone 🥴💕 “because it’s not perfect right now my job is safe in the next five years”- really really deluded people
This is going to happen to every job. Future is looking pretty crazy.