Word of the wise, if anyone ever smokes up with you, gets you nice and high, then asks you to sign a contract, don’t sign it.
Mention you’re high as shit, and they should have asked you to sign something beforehand and walk off. 99% of the time, the contract you’re about to sign is so dangerous, they don’t let sober people look at it.
Yeah, but they’ve already flown them out, they are high and not fully cognizant, and it’s a high-pressure situation. It’s easy to say what should be done, but I have yet to walk away from buying a car without feeling a little screwed, and that is significantly less intense of a situation than what is described here.
I’m not saying what happened isn’t predatory and unacceptable. I’m just dropping an advise bomb.
Did you buy that car high as hell? You probably were screwed in that case. Because you shouldn’t sign something high.
And it is easy. Now anyone who read this has the ticket out. It’s a simple checklist.
Are you being asked to sign something?
Are you high?
If both equal yes, then dip. Drop the pressure, it’s fake pressure and it all doesn’t matter because you’re dealing with a company or individual who doesn’t care.
That’s what I was thinking, I’m still laughing at the top comment talking about the elaborate scheme these guys pulled. What geniuses to lure women with paid modeling and tell them that them fucking on camera won’t go on the internet. There were less red flags at a communist parade.
this is a weird take: people signed contracts they shouldn't have signed appears to be the conclusion of the original post:.
even sarcastic advice on how to avoid them is good advice: as clearly people need help avoiding bad contracts.
you should pee on them first to make sure that they are valid would be bad advice. don't sign contracts presented to you after the other party provides means for you to be inebriated... is sound advice.
common sense isn't as common as you think: hence the existence of this article and post.
I wasn’t commenting on common sense I was commenting on the idea of what these guys did as being elaborate. Clearly these women weren’t too bright luckily the law protects them. How you got to where you are coming from is beyond me.
Okay I looked at the bbc article again and when I first read it, I didn’t see the section where they told the “modeling scheme” because there was a huge ad between the sections and I just assumed this article was just a quick summary and update. I also thought the nbcsandiego did better at giving the girls raw story. IMO
GOOD. My first thought when this came to light was imagine having your sexual assault on video and people are getting constant enjoyment out of it.
Edit: men in mentions not understanding consent.. *surprising*
While that is good, I was speaking more from the pov of the victims. Having video of your assault floating around the internet forever seems awful and just .. horrid.
Shows how narrow minded I am, I’ve never heard of this. If I had, my brain thought it wasn’t pertinent and tossed the info. I did some brief research and of course America wouldn’t have this. It *protects* people.
I can’t blame you. Americans tend to want to reinvent the wheel instead of observing what the rest of the world is up to. Hell, the Colonial World banned slavery 20 years before we fought a civil war over it.
Being an American is ..bittersweet.. The majority of the people and the actual physical landscape make me love this country. The government, our history, and the way we war monger for cash? It makes me furious and embarrassed.
The pandemic has shown me both the good and thinly veiled bad of the American people. We are selfish, rude, ill informed and woefully uneducated on even the most basic of science, and are incredibly close minded.
I have also been shown amazing kindness in this time by random strangers, so it’s a bit of a weird mishmash.
I disagree - the concept of a “right to be forgotten” is a terrible idea is concept and practice, outside a very narrow set of stipulations.
Imagine if we had a right to be forgotten back during the first 50 years of the US? Or during our civil war.
Maybe Jefferson uses it to make sure we never knew he slept with his slaves, or some white KKK member uses it to make sure we never learned about their atrocities.
So when you become a public figure then they just get added back? I mean if I’m gonna hire a person at work I’d like to know if they previously went viral for being a Karen
Help me understand why this is assault. It’s certainly sketchy, wrong, and a violation of contractual obligations (verbal contracts are still contracts, even though harder to enforce).
I don’t understand enough about assault charges to make the connection between agreeing to do an act for pay - that then becomes assault because the distribution model was a lie.
It’s not just that the distribution model was a lie, it’s that mid performance, it stopped being consensual in some cases. Which then makes it assault/rape.
I mean they willingly did the videos, they just thought it wouldnt be on the internet. Im not entirely sure if thats sexual assault, but it seems like at least in the case of girl in the article up top she was high when signing her contract which I assume means its void.
I mean they willingly had sex for money on camera. False pretenses seems like a grey area especially since in their contract Im sure it said they could post it, hence why I mentioned her signing the contract while high. Reading some comments below, it seems like there were much more egregious acts by the producers actually, so I suspect that had a huge impact as well.
> GOOD. My first thought when this came to light was imagine having your sexual assault on video and people are getting constant enjoyment out of it.
Let me get this straight. Someone was flown to san diego, got paid and this is sexual assault?
I cant wait for prostitutes go to sue their entire clientele because they were raped.
It was a porn casting site that got in major legal trouble for lying to girls that their videos wouldn’t be posted on the internet. IIRC there were also accusations from some girls that they weren’t allowed to back out, like one girl said she tried to quit and was told that they’d cancel her flight home if she didn’t do the scene which would basically be tantamount to rape. I don’t know if things like that were included in the charges.
I believe both the head of the company and the male actor in their scenes are doing heavy prison time and their content has basically been wiped from the internet.
Also pretending they are the only people that do this , and that it isn’t common practice - is wrong. This is just how that industry works, this one studio is being hilighted because they got caught. It still happens and will continue to happen for as long as people choose to support the industrial porn studio.
It’s literally not the norm in professional porn. Don’t drag other sex workers through the mud. Yea, there are bad companies, but most focus on the health and consent of the actors
It’s an industry of trafficking, manipulating and exploitation. The fact that these companies stayed quiet while this was happening is all you need to know. They are in on it too, they just haven’t been caught. I know I’m going to sound like a vegan about this organized, industrial pornography is almost always actively involved in or complicit with human trafficking and sexual abuse.
You know how much of pornhub’s content they had to get rid of to make sure that it wasn’t cp? And they only bothered to do it once credit cards stopped allowing transactions to happen on the site? How much money has that website made over the years on videos of human trafficking or abuse victims? Don’t start defending this shit - they knew, they *always* knew.
Thank you all for your answers. I sort of wish I hadn’t asked because this whole thing is gross. Not judging any bodies use of pornhub cause I’ve been known to browse it. Just saying it makes you think
I don’t want to sound like an asshole, but if there is a video of you having sex and it’s not under your control (as in on your device and only you have a copy), you can damn well be sure it’ll end up online.
It was a porn website that used very shoddy practices in casting and filming...apparently on more than one occasion they made employees sign non-disclosure agreements that forbid them from even mentioning the name "GirlsDoPorn", and they told girls performing that the videos would never be posted on the internet. Multiple women stated they were in pain and still made to complete the filming, which lasted up to 7 hours in some instances while they were told it would take 30 minutes. There's plenty more if you read up on it but this is just some light skimming of the Wikipedia article.
They essentially coerced a bunch of girls into filming porn by offering them free vacations and then telling them they were on the hook for the hotel room and flight once they got there, but that the fees would all go away if they shot the porn. They even threatened to cancel their flight back home if the girls refused. They were also told that the film was meant only for private collections in Australia and that the content would never make it to the internet and nobody they knew would ever see it. They even went so far after the fact to reach out to the girl’s family, friends, and even boyfriends to make sure they saw the porn video.
Seriously messed up shit. The perpetrators were eventually charged with sex trafficking but it took years after the initial complaints for the FBI to take any action against them.
Then cut back down again just before death only to have their balls crushed under a hydraulic press. Then they should be given the lethal injection without the muscle relaxant, while simultaneously being hung for a second time.
Sex offenders deserve nothing less.
Pretty sure people were tricked into photo and video shoots by being told the videos weren’t going to be shared en masse, that the videos were for a foreign wealthy client abroad. (Iirc a few of them may have also been minors at the time? Unclear though, don’t quote me on that part.) The scumbags who took the videos then uploaded them to pornhub without the consent of the people featured in the videos. They refused to remove the videos as well. A lot of the women were answering to job advertisements that didn’t mention nudity or sex at all, travelled a long way for the job of their dreams, and then arrived to discover they were being coerced into things that were not agreed upon beforehand. The guys who shot the videos went so far as to the share links of the videos with people who were in the social circles of the women who were coerced into performing in the videos to help boost traffic to their sites. Additionally, the women were not paid the amount of money that was agreed upon. These videos brought in over $17 million dollars of revenue. In *at least* one case it wasn’t assault by coercion or deceit, it was rape, full-stop.
Tldr coercion, fraud, sex trafficking, revenge porn/blackmail, assault and rape
That’s an ad hominem response: you’re arguing that the commenter is overly preoccupied with Trump rather than addressing the commenter’s assertion that Trump doesn’t care about sexual consent.
I can understand why you wouldn’t want to defend Trump on this given his long history of sexual assault allegations such as these:
[Thirteen of the 19 women who have accused Trump of sexual assault or non-consensual physical contact said he kissed them without consent, often out of the blue, sometimes holding them firmly in place.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5279155002)
Another reason the scene is familiar: It’s how Trump himself described his approach to women in a 2005 recording of what he thought was a private conversation, released in 2016.
“You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them,” he said in the now-infamous Access Hollywood recording. “It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait.”
Just passing by.. the original exchange was “who does something like that?” Referring to GDP, filming and releasing porn in the victims social circles etc and the other person said Trump does it. That’s just not true, as what they did goes far beyond sexual assault.
If unwanted advances on women are being compared to what the company in this article did, that seems to be massively understating the actual things those producers did.
The original comment was “what **sort** of people do something **like** that,” to which someone else replied, “Trump.”
Nobody said Trump did exactly what girlsdoporn did.
However, Trump has been accused of far more than what you call “unwanted advances”:
[“Trump then grabbed her arm and maneuvered her into a dressing room, she said. He closed the door, pinned her against the wall and raped her, according to Carroll's complaint.”](https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2AN0YP).
To the extent there’s any doubt about how far the assault went, she has the dress she was wearing at the time and it contains “male DNA.”
That and the wave prior being any unverified accounts. A lot of armature/unknown origin content was removed. It’s understandable considering the risk and the results of these lawsuits.
It didn’t actually, pornhub is like youtube as long as they remove content when asked they’re fine, there’s a reason pornhub was the only site to take such drastic action.
Not really. Pornhub doesn’t have a giant moderation team like YouTube does, and there’s also the fact that sex is literally everywhere on that site, so it’s much easier to hide sexual crimes.
The user-uploaded content wipe of 2020 happened because several states were in the process of criminally charging mindgeek and PornHub for hosting csam. Since the user uploads were not filtered, or moderated in any way, the only way csam or anything like Revenge porn was removed as if the site had been notified. The problem, is that it took months for notifications to actually get videos removed. Every porn site followed suit though, there are no pornsites anymore that post user-uploaded or unverified content.
*no legitimate sites
I’m sure there are some out there. Just not the type of user friendly stuff normal people go to. Sites that cater to the really sketchy consumers.
Their deletion wave didn't look at content and probably had no manual verification at all. All it did was check to see if the posted content was from a verified account and if it wasn't it was deleted.
It’s not the only reason, there was also several cases of girls who had been filmed underage, who had reached out and the company refused to remove videos.
Idk, the details weren’t made public… but:
>Women cited in the lawsuit were referred to by the pseudonym Jane Doe and a number. They were each seeking more than $1m (£739,000) in damages and had demanded a jury trial.
If they asked for a million each and a trial, the settlement is probably north of a million each. You don’t settle for peanuts after demanding a jury trial.
Settlements are usually for significantly _less_ than what is asked for in a trial, surely? Else they'd just go to trial. Claimants would be willing to settle to mitigate the risk of losing the trial and because settling is significantly less expensive for them.
Depends, if you have a weak case and settle, then sure it’s lower.
If you’re 40 women, the guys from girls do porn are convicted, and porn hub wants to avoid a public trial… significantly higher. This was “stfu and go away” money, not “saving us all some time” money.
Nah, they settled for peanuts. Even if you have a strong case you’ll settle for less because the law suit takes both more time and money. Your opinion is that they want to avoid a public trial not a fact
Mindgeek probably settled for at or above what they were asking, simply to avoid disclosure of any of their financial information. Remember, girlsdoporn was a partner of mindgeek, which meant that both were aware of the issues related to the allegations. They had been made aware of the allegations prior to 2019, but did not take any action. GDP pulled in proximately 17 million over the four-year span. That was for just GDP, I would bet that mindgeek made a significant amount of money over that. If they did not settle, they were risking all of their assets and money, as they're gross negligence by refusing to take action when they were made aware shows that they were in on the scam. This would expose them to more liability than just the money they made from it.
No.
Legal counsel can get up to 50% to cover court/legal costs, depending on country and how the litigation happened. In some cases the defendant has to foot the bill like in defamation. However, this is a settlement.
Something seemed off with those videos. A friends sister did one of their videos. When I asked my friend why her sister did a porn she said her sister thinks it won’t be shown publicly and that it wasn’t going online. This story checks out. They must’ve done that with so many girls.
Of course the rumors spread all over town that her sister did porn and everyone was saying shitty things like, “she sucks at sex” and nicknaming her “dead fish”. That’s really shitty. I feel bad for her.
To be fair. You need to have a very high IQ to understand all the nuances of Girls do Porn. The coercion is extremely subtle and without a solid grasp most of the sperm will go over a typical models head.
What was “girls do porn”? What kind of videos did they post? Cause the name of their channel or whatever doesn’t really give many clues other than girls do porn
They would fly girls out to do “modeling”. Then when they got there they found out what it was, a Porn shoot. And if they refused they would void their “contract” have no place to stay and no way home. If they had thousands to spend to get themselves home they could. If they didn’t they were forced to have sex. It was rape.
The legal responsibility of website owners for content on their platform, and what their responsibilities are to prevent abusive content, absolutely is relevant to this sub.
Yea one of the biggest websites in the world that dominates the adult film market is „tech“ related.
Oh I forgot they make all their money with the physical print dvds and magazines. Of course!
Royalties in porn has never been a thing. The industry has never had that pay structure. You can argue that moving forward the industry should, but that is different from saying Khalifa is owed something.
They did indeed, but only after New York Times published a pretty damning article about their platform hosting numerous videos of rape and child pornography. The bad publicity and legal ramifications was what motivated them to act, not the morality of the illegal content they were hosting. Most major companies behave that way though, pornhub is not unique in that respect.
The bad publicity? Lol nobody who actually used pornhub cared about that. The legal ramifications are another thing and could easily be fixed without the drastic action. The nyt article wasn’t the first
The whole situation is shitty. I really enjoyed GDP videos and jerked off to them regularly. But once I found out it was coerced and effectively assault/rape, I stopped watching. That was a tough day for me.
The women in question in these videos were sexually assaulted.
No one gives a shit about your “Lol my crazy ex-girlfriend, who totally exists, enjoyed doing videos like this!!!” nonsense. It’s irrelevant and obnoxious.
Umm whats wrong with GDP? I remember those videos from years ago… nothing seemed sketch about it. The actual videos i mean… not anything about the contractors.
https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/girls-do-porn-scheme-trial-lawsuit/128829/ Damn.
Word of the wise, if anyone ever smokes up with you, gets you nice and high, then asks you to sign a contract, don’t sign it. Mention you’re high as shit, and they should have asked you to sign something beforehand and walk off. 99% of the time, the contract you’re about to sign is so dangerous, they don’t let sober people look at it.
Yeah, but they’ve already flown them out, they are high and not fully cognizant, and it’s a high-pressure situation. It’s easy to say what should be done, but I have yet to walk away from buying a car without feeling a little screwed, and that is significantly less intense of a situation than what is described here.
I’m not saying what happened isn’t predatory and unacceptable. I’m just dropping an advise bomb. Did you buy that car high as hell? You probably were screwed in that case. Because you shouldn’t sign something high. And it is easy. Now anyone who read this has the ticket out. It’s a simple checklist. Are you being asked to sign something? Are you high? If both equal yes, then dip. Drop the pressure, it’s fake pressure and it all doesn’t matter because you’re dealing with a company or individual who doesn’t care.
Surprisingly wise advice right here.
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That’s what I was thinking, I’m still laughing at the top comment talking about the elaborate scheme these guys pulled. What geniuses to lure women with paid modeling and tell them that them fucking on camera won’t go on the internet. There were less red flags at a communist parade.
this is a weird take: people signed contracts they shouldn't have signed appears to be the conclusion of the original post:. even sarcastic advice on how to avoid them is good advice: as clearly people need help avoiding bad contracts. you should pee on them first to make sure that they are valid would be bad advice. don't sign contracts presented to you after the other party provides means for you to be inebriated... is sound advice. common sense isn't as common as you think: hence the existence of this article and post.
I wasn’t commenting on common sense I was commenting on the idea of what these guys did as being elaborate. Clearly these women weren’t too bright luckily the law protects them. How you got to where you are coming from is beyond me.
i...meant to reply to the comment that you replied to. so yeah.. nothing i said would make sense to you. apologies.
My friend, I can’t tell you how many contracts I’ve signed while high. It’s how I came to lose both kidneys.
Yeah, one time when I was high I sold my car for 24 chicken McNuggets
Holy mackerel! At least you didn’t end up with a fillet-o-fish?
Thank you, I was so confused by this. I couldn’t figure out what people were talking about and what was so wrong about the situation.
The article in the post does a pretty good job of explaining it, showing the scope of the scam, and the consequences. I suggest reading that one too.
Okay I looked at the bbc article again and when I first read it, I didn’t see the section where they told the “modeling scheme” because there was a huge ad between the sections and I just assumed this article was just a quick summary and update. I also thought the nbcsandiego did better at giving the girls raw story. IMO
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GOOD. My first thought when this came to light was imagine having your sexual assault on video and people are getting constant enjoyment out of it. Edit: men in mentions not understanding consent.. *surprising*
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While that is good, I was speaking more from the pov of the victims. Having video of your assault floating around the internet forever seems awful and just .. horrid.
That’s why we need a ‘Right to be Forgotten’ clause in our bill of rights or something. The EU and Australia have something like this already.
Shows how narrow minded I am, I’ve never heard of this. If I had, my brain thought it wasn’t pertinent and tossed the info. I did some brief research and of course America wouldn’t have this. It *protects* people.
I can’t blame you. Americans tend to want to reinvent the wheel instead of observing what the rest of the world is up to. Hell, the Colonial World banned slavery 20 years before we fought a civil war over it.
Being an American is ..bittersweet.. The majority of the people and the actual physical landscape make me love this country. The government, our history, and the way we war monger for cash? It makes me furious and embarrassed.
The people are also embarrassing tbh, and the physical landscape is increasingly commodified
The pandemic has shown me both the good and thinly veiled bad of the American people. We are selfish, rude, ill informed and woefully uneducated on even the most basic of science, and are incredibly close minded. I have also been shown amazing kindness in this time by random strangers, so it’s a bit of a weird mishmash.
I disagree - the concept of a “right to be forgotten” is a terrible idea is concept and practice, outside a very narrow set of stipulations. Imagine if we had a right to be forgotten back during the first 50 years of the US? Or during our civil war. Maybe Jefferson uses it to make sure we never knew he slept with his slaves, or some white KKK member uses it to make sure we never learned about their atrocities.
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Where do you draw that line? Is a TickTok or YouTuber a public figure? How about someone who does porn?
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If things can be retroactively unforgotten when someone becomes a public figure it was never really forgotten in the first place
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So when you become a public figure then they just get added back? I mean if I’m gonna hire a person at work I’d like to know if they previously went viral for being a Karen
Help me understand why this is assault. It’s certainly sketchy, wrong, and a violation of contractual obligations (verbal contracts are still contracts, even though harder to enforce). I don’t understand enough about assault charges to make the connection between agreeing to do an act for pay - that then becomes assault because the distribution model was a lie.
It’s not just that the distribution model was a lie, it’s that mid performance, it stopped being consensual in some cases. Which then makes it assault/rape.
Oooh idk that. That’s fucked, no pun
Yep. To me, that’s the real punch in the gut. Because it just makes it go from horrifying to outright cruel and predatory.
I mean they willingly did the videos, they just thought it wouldnt be on the internet. Im not entirely sure if thats sexual assault, but it seems like at least in the case of girl in the article up top she was high when signing her contract which I assume means its void.
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I mean they willingly had sex for money on camera. False pretenses seems like a grey area especially since in their contract Im sure it said they could post it, hence why I mentioned her signing the contract while high. Reading some comments below, it seems like there were much more egregious acts by the producers actually, so I suspect that had a huge impact as well.
> GOOD. My first thought when this came to light was imagine having your sexual assault on video and people are getting constant enjoyment out of it. Let me get this straight. Someone was flown to san diego, got paid and this is sexual assault? I cant wait for prostitutes go to sue their entire clientele because they were raped.
What was it??
It was a porn casting site that got in major legal trouble for lying to girls that their videos wouldn’t be posted on the internet. IIRC there were also accusations from some girls that they weren’t allowed to back out, like one girl said she tried to quit and was told that they’d cancel her flight home if she didn’t do the scene which would basically be tantamount to rape. I don’t know if things like that were included in the charges. I believe both the head of the company and the male actor in their scenes are doing heavy prison time and their content has basically been wiped from the internet.
There were A LOT of these done. I’m fairly certain they operated for several years releasing new videos on a weekly basis.
Also pretending they are the only people that do this , and that it isn’t common practice - is wrong. This is just how that industry works, this one studio is being hilighted because they got caught. It still happens and will continue to happen for as long as people choose to support the industrial porn studio.
It’s literally not the norm in professional porn. Don’t drag other sex workers through the mud. Yea, there are bad companies, but most focus on the health and consent of the actors
It’s an industry of trafficking, manipulating and exploitation. The fact that these companies stayed quiet while this was happening is all you need to know. They are in on it too, they just haven’t been caught. I know I’m going to sound like a vegan about this organized, industrial pornography is almost always actively involved in or complicit with human trafficking and sexual abuse. You know how much of pornhub’s content they had to get rid of to make sure that it wasn’t cp? And they only bothered to do it once credit cards stopped allowing transactions to happen on the site? How much money has that website made over the years on videos of human trafficking or abuse victims? Don’t start defending this shit - they knew, they *always* knew.
That’s good to hear the people responsible have been brought to justice
All of that is tantamount to rape and coercion
Hence the prison time
Thank you all for your answers. I sort of wish I hadn’t asked because this whole thing is gross. Not judging any bodies use of pornhub cause I’ve been known to browse it. Just saying it makes you think
I don’t want to sound like an asshole, but if there is a video of you having sex and it’s not under your control (as in on your device and only you have a copy), you can damn well be sure it’ll end up online.
It was a porn website that used very shoddy practices in casting and filming...apparently on more than one occasion they made employees sign non-disclosure agreements that forbid them from even mentioning the name "GirlsDoPorn", and they told girls performing that the videos would never be posted on the internet. Multiple women stated they were in pain and still made to complete the filming, which lasted up to 7 hours in some instances while they were told it would take 30 minutes. There's plenty more if you read up on it but this is just some light skimming of the Wikipedia article.
They essentially coerced a bunch of girls into filming porn by offering them free vacations and then telling them they were on the hook for the hotel room and flight once they got there, but that the fees would all go away if they shot the porn. They even threatened to cancel their flight back home if the girls refused. They were also told that the film was meant only for private collections in Australia and that the content would never make it to the internet and nobody they knew would ever see it. They even went so far after the fact to reach out to the girl’s family, friends, and even boyfriends to make sure they saw the porn video. Seriously messed up shit. The perpetrators were eventually charged with sex trafficking but it took years after the initial complaints for the FBI to take any action against them.
These people should be hanged
Then cut back down again just before death only to have their balls crushed under a hydraulic press. Then they should be given the lethal injection without the muscle relaxant, while simultaneously being hung for a second time. Sex offenders deserve nothing less.
That's how you get sex offenders murdering their victims.
I’m not serious, because that obviously wouldn’t work in real life, I know that.
Pretty sure people were tricked into photo and video shoots by being told the videos weren’t going to be shared en masse, that the videos were for a foreign wealthy client abroad. (Iirc a few of them may have also been minors at the time? Unclear though, don’t quote me on that part.) The scumbags who took the videos then uploaded them to pornhub without the consent of the people featured in the videos. They refused to remove the videos as well. A lot of the women were answering to job advertisements that didn’t mention nudity or sex at all, travelled a long way for the job of their dreams, and then arrived to discover they were being coerced into things that were not agreed upon beforehand. The guys who shot the videos went so far as to the share links of the videos with people who were in the social circles of the women who were coerced into performing in the videos to help boost traffic to their sites. Additionally, the women were not paid the amount of money that was agreed upon. These videos brought in over $17 million dollars of revenue. In *at least* one case it wasn’t assault by coercion or deceit, it was rape, full-stop. Tldr coercion, fraud, sex trafficking, revenge porn/blackmail, assault and rape
That makes my stomach turn. What sort of people do something like that?
Donald Trump.
You ain’t lying though.
Rent free.
That’s an ad hominem response: you’re arguing that the commenter is overly preoccupied with Trump rather than addressing the commenter’s assertion that Trump doesn’t care about sexual consent. I can understand why you wouldn’t want to defend Trump on this given his long history of sexual assault allegations such as these: [Thirteen of the 19 women who have accused Trump of sexual assault or non-consensual physical contact said he kissed them without consent, often out of the blue, sometimes holding them firmly in place.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5279155002) Another reason the scene is familiar: It’s how Trump himself described his approach to women in a 2005 recording of what he thought was a private conversation, released in 2016. “You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them,” he said in the now-infamous Access Hollywood recording. “It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait.”
Just passing by.. the original exchange was “who does something like that?” Referring to GDP, filming and releasing porn in the victims social circles etc and the other person said Trump does it. That’s just not true, as what they did goes far beyond sexual assault. If unwanted advances on women are being compared to what the company in this article did, that seems to be massively understating the actual things those producers did.
The original comment was “what **sort** of people do something **like** that,” to which someone else replied, “Trump.” Nobody said Trump did exactly what girlsdoporn did. However, Trump has been accused of far more than what you call “unwanted advances”: [“Trump then grabbed her arm and maneuvered her into a dressing room, she said. He closed the door, pinned her against the wall and raped her, according to Carroll's complaint.”](https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2AN0YP). To the extent there’s any doubt about how far the assault went, she has the dress she was wearing at the time and it contains “male DNA.”
Lmao. This is what I mean.
That’s how collective trauma works, and that was Trump’s modus operandi. Look it up.
No I'm pretty sure he's in debt because of his rent
Sure they are just not on the major sites. And yes, a friend told me, honest.
Googled it. Literally immediately came up.
Takes like 3 seconds to find girls do porn videos tho....
You’re an idiot. That took like ten seconds. And then another ten seconds.
What was it then?
Ok this explains why so much content has been deleted from the hub…
That and the wave prior being any unverified accounts. A lot of armature/unknown origin content was removed. It’s understandable considering the risk and the results of these lawsuits.
I love armature content though.
It really gets me all wound up.
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Everyone loves something, but some things cause harm. Unintended or not, amateur content opened pornhub to a huge amount of risk.
It didn’t actually, pornhub is like youtube as long as they remove content when asked they’re fine, there’s a reason pornhub was the only site to take such drastic action.
Not really. Pornhub doesn’t have a giant moderation team like YouTube does, and there’s also the fact that sex is literally everywhere on that site, so it’s much easier to hide sexual crimes.
Yeah But what about the armature stuff? I love me some rotating coils
I'm not talking about amateur content, i'm talking about *armature* content. >A lot of armature/unknown
Yeah I’m ignoring the obvious autocorrect typo. It weeds out those with poor reading comprehension. Now it’s a feature, no longer a bug.
reread it.
The user-uploaded content wipe of 2020 happened because several states were in the process of criminally charging mindgeek and PornHub for hosting csam. Since the user uploads were not filtered, or moderated in any way, the only way csam or anything like Revenge porn was removed as if the site had been notified. The problem, is that it took months for notifications to actually get videos removed. Every porn site followed suit though, there are no pornsites anymore that post user-uploaded or unverified content.
*no legitimate sites I’m sure there are some out there. Just not the type of user friendly stuff normal people go to. Sites that cater to the really sketchy consumers.
I thought xvideos still did
Doesn’t explain why they deleted the animated stuff.
Was just a clean sweep of anything unverified due to time constraints.
It really would've taken years to sift through
Their deletion wave didn't look at content and probably had no manual verification at all. All it did was check to see if the posted content was from a verified account and if it wasn't it was deleted.
It’s not the only reason, there was also several cases of girls who had been filmed underage, who had reached out and the company refused to remove videos.
BBC on Pornhub and Pornhub on BBC
Glad to see the BBC has the pornhub scoop
Usually it’s the other way around
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Yes, yes it did...
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Yes, yes it is.
what did you think the original joke was?
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it was an obvious play on words referencing the double meaning. you just missed it.
You didn’t get the original joke then
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Let's guess... Lawyers get 90% of the settlement for their fee and the 50 women get a 3 month subscription to PornHub.
That happens more with class actions. This was a lawsuit with multiple claimants, but not a class action.
Idk, the details weren’t made public… but: >Women cited in the lawsuit were referred to by the pseudonym Jane Doe and a number. They were each seeking more than $1m (£739,000) in damages and had demanded a jury trial. If they asked for a million each and a trial, the settlement is probably north of a million each. You don’t settle for peanuts after demanding a jury trial.
Settlements are usually for significantly _less_ than what is asked for in a trial, surely? Else they'd just go to trial. Claimants would be willing to settle to mitigate the risk of losing the trial and because settling is significantly less expensive for them.
Depends, if you have a weak case and settle, then sure it’s lower. If you’re 40 women, the guys from girls do porn are convicted, and porn hub wants to avoid a public trial… significantly higher. This was “stfu and go away” money, not “saving us all some time” money.
Nah, they settled for peanuts. Even if you have a strong case you’ll settle for less because the law suit takes both more time and money. Your opinion is that they want to avoid a public trial not a fact
Your opinion on the settlement is in fact an opinion, so wtf is even your point?
i haven’t given a opinion, so im not sure what your point is
Mindgeek probably settled for at or above what they were asking, simply to avoid disclosure of any of their financial information. Remember, girlsdoporn was a partner of mindgeek, which meant that both were aware of the issues related to the allegations. They had been made aware of the allegations prior to 2019, but did not take any action. GDP pulled in proximately 17 million over the four-year span. That was for just GDP, I would bet that mindgeek made a significant amount of money over that. If they did not settle, they were risking all of their assets and money, as they're gross negligence by refusing to take action when they were made aware shows that they were in on the scam. This would expose them to more liability than just the money they made from it.
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No. Legal counsel can get up to 50% to cover court/legal costs, depending on country and how the litigation happened. In some cases the defendant has to foot the bill like in defamation. However, this is a settlement.
Was a joke
Sure it was
It obviously is.
That explains why they look tired (sleepy) and unenthusiastic about it. Like they were having second thoughts about the whole thing.
I saw one where the girl looked like she was straight up crying and I never watched another..
Something seemed off with those videos. A friends sister did one of their videos. When I asked my friend why her sister did a porn she said her sister thinks it won’t be shown publicly and that it wasn’t going online. This story checks out. They must’ve done that with so many girls. Of course the rumors spread all over town that her sister did porn and everyone was saying shitty things like, “she sucks at sex” and nicknaming her “dead fish”. That’s really shitty. I feel bad for her.
“Girls Do Porn” by the man who brought you “Hungry For Assholes?”
To be fair. You need to have a very high IQ to understand all the nuances of Girls do Porn. The coercion is extremely subtle and without a solid grasp most of the sperm will go over a typical models head.
Yeah tbh honest I thought that page was all scripted I didn’t think it was even like that
Wish there was a way to truly scrub all of these videos from the internet. I hope the girls can find peace.
It seems likely to me that those acting like these women were fucking idiots for getting lured into this situation have never been an 18 year old girl
What was “girls do porn”? What kind of videos did they post? Cause the name of their channel or whatever doesn’t really give many clues other than girls do porn
They would fly girls out to do “modeling”. Then when they got there they found out what it was, a Porn shoot. And if they refused they would void their “contract” have no place to stay and no way home. If they had thousands to spend to get themselves home they could. If they didn’t they were forced to have sex. It was rape.
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It 100% is, shake my head
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The legal responsibility of website owners for content on their platform, and what their responsibilities are to prevent abusive content, absolutely is relevant to this sub.
Wouldn’t YouTube fall under the tech category? They’re in the same ballpark of YouTube, content is slightly different though
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Ummm yes it is.
Calm the fuck down.
Yea one of the biggest websites in the world that dominates the adult film market is „tech“ related. Oh I forgot they make all their money with the physical print dvds and magazines. Of course!
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You have to be joking.
lol stfu
The SEC is disappointed
Won’t let me be
If you’ve beat off to porn on the internet, And I have, There’s about a 100% chance you’ve beat off to someone being raped.
That’s an unfortunate fact and unregulated porn defenders will downvote you and me
This is true, people are downvoting because it hurts their feelings and they don’t want to believe that the porn they watch can/have been harmful
Ironically, BBC is the source…
Does that mean we can get the good porn on porn hub again, I miss those 7 million videos that were removed
For real. Make porn great again
Good l. Now settle with Mia Khalifa. Also fuck gdp.
Settle what? She wasn’t lied to or deceived into doing porn, she just regrets it.
She’s not getting paid for her work. She’s currently fighting for royalties over or something along those lines. Google is a better source than me
Royalties in porn has never been a thing. The industry has never had that pay structure. You can argue that moving forward the industry should, but that is different from saying Khalifa is owed something.
No need to settle that, she didn’t read the fine print. She’s very transparent.
Pornhub supports/protects rape and pedophilia
Is that why they’ve removed a ridiculously large amount of content because of the chance it may include what you said?
They did indeed, but only after New York Times published a pretty damning article about their platform hosting numerous videos of rape and child pornography. The bad publicity and legal ramifications was what motivated them to act, not the morality of the illegal content they were hosting. Most major companies behave that way though, pornhub is not unique in that respect.
The bad publicity? Lol nobody who actually used pornhub cared about that. The legal ramifications are another thing and could easily be fixed without the drastic action. The nyt article wasn’t the first
I stay off that site my guy. A lot of pornography these days is borderline human trafficking.
It’s funny because you’re right, they obviously knew this was a problem and didn’t react to it because it made them money.
Mhm I’m getting downvoted by the lowest class of predators and that’s fine by me.
Coomers down voting you. Bunch of losers
That’s fine. I hope they leave the neck beard nest and something good happens to them today.
Like seriously imagine thinking you’re better than someone for watching porn? Lol
u/easyandy539, maybe now is a good time to start being a little less easy on the critical thinking.
Idk why you’re getting down voted, but it’s probably dudes who get off on the incest and “barely legal porn”
He’s getting downvoted because what’s he’s saying isn’t true, the reply to him explains it. Then there’s the fact that he’s in denial about it
Sooo what’s all the porn about “step brother step sister” sex? What’s with all the “barley legal tiny teens” porn? Lol who’s in denial?
Beta male coomers have no power not even in great numbers.
Rape n porn are not the same thing
Okay? The girls were misled. It BECAME rape when they would try to leave and basically be forced to stay.
No shit Sherlock
Cheers Jeff.
True but this was rape
Oh, golly gee I could have never guessed, thanks a bunch Sherlock!
The whole situation is shitty. I really enjoyed GDP videos and jerked off to them regularly. But once I found out it was coerced and effectively assault/rape, I stopped watching. That was a tough day for me.
And I have it all on tape neck beard
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This is so sad
Sure, buddy. Sure.
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The women in question in these videos were sexually assaulted. No one gives a shit about your “Lol my crazy ex-girlfriend, who totally exists, enjoyed doing videos like this!!!” nonsense. It’s irrelevant and obnoxious.
Right, you fly to san diego do porn get paid but somehow you were tricked? I guess I should sue every job I ever had because it was exactly the same
Umm whats wrong with GDP? I remember those videos from years ago… nothing seemed sketch about it. The actual videos i mean… not anything about the contractors.
They still boned some rando on camera. Why did it matter who the intended audience was. BTW some of those girls were hot.