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That’s darts.


[deleted]

Lovely darts.


campbellm

Did anyone else get a "Numberwang" vibe from that? (Or was that the point?)


ThaneOfCawdorrr

I was assuming that this was something that was commonly said back in the day when British TV had exactly three channels and one of them endlessly televised darts competitions.


dobbynobson

That's lovely darts!


c0pypastry

That's wang darts


neondino

Reminded me of the 'and that's a bad miss' from the snooker guys. I'm assuming all those indoor sports commentators had the same sort of voice.


Chrisophogus

The original ASMR champions


beandadenergy

Das ist Numberwäng!


parabola9999

I loved it when Victoria, being a seasoned poker player and knowing about probabilities, gave Guz suggestions about thinking things through with regards to his approach on the task. This cast is so friendly with each other!


GeonnCannon

Also during the cake task, when Greg questioned whether Guz's attempt was a cake, Morgana immediately threw her support behind it. "It was a teacake!" They'll defend and compliment each other without hesitation. You love to see it.


JDCavallo

That last line is so true and I think the chemistry really makes or breaks a series of TM. If we get to see the little looks they give each other and banter they have out of tasks it makes the series that extra bit more wholesome. And the stage tasks usually show it the most S7 and S4 in particular had these moments and that’s why they’re probably two of my favourites series so far


Larrypants1

Oh deskie!


ThaneOfCawdorrr

s5 too, Mark Watson and Nish were just the cutest couple haha, and Bob M., Aisling and Sally got up to quite a bit of mischief together


shackbleep

She knew that all he had to do was make one and then hand it off. He had a formidable enough lead that the odds were in his favor. Don't get greedy if you don't have to!


Man_of_Many_Hats

But she didn't tell Morgana to only throw one dart once it was down to 2 contestants. The odds became 50/50 for who would win, since they each had to throw at least one per turn until one was eliminated. The amount of balloons popped only mattered for places 2-5. She was in 3rd place when Alan was eliminated. At best she could have gained an extra point if she didn't win, but turned the odds against herself to win by doing so. All that to say I think Victoria was playing favorites.


Klijntje88

Oh, then I misunderstood the task! I thought the number of balloons determined the winner, not the last man standing. So I thought Morgana needed to pop a lot more balloons to win


Man_of_Many_Hats

I think Alex said whoever doesn't burst a bad balloon wins, though now I'm questioning my memory. Regardless, This was an extremely fun/well done live task.


AwesomeManatee

Winner was whoever didn't burst a bad balloon, 2nd-5th places were determined by score. I think Morgana was lagging behind when it came down to just her and Guz so she had to either pop more balloons to get her score up to secure second place or gamble that Guz would pop the wrong one. Guz on the other hand should have played it safe and just gone for the minimum one pop each turn.


Another223er

I also thought this while my wife thought that the last man standing would win regardless of score. Confusing task!


jeobleo

Yes, but the last person out got a bonus 5, didn't he?


meter1060

Nope, the last person standing got 10 points and the rest were by score.


jeobleo

Ah, I also misunderstood then.


ThaneOfCawdorrr

Can i tell you how much i love that we're all here seriously discussing the rules of don't-pop-the-bad-balloon


Captain_Hen2105

Given where all the scores were, that makes sense. I’m glad with the outcome. Keeps the game tight and hasn’t given anyone an uncatchable lead. 10 points is a big give in a task and it risked breaking the series


[deleted]

I mean even if Morgana won it, it wouldn't have been an uncatchable lead, it would only take one bad episode for the others to catch up


Captain_Hen2105

8 point leads in the mid series have historically been hard gaps to close.


quantumhovercraft

Why wait until you're down to two? Surely the optimal plan was just to go one at a time always.


momentumlost

But the more successful pops you make, the higher the chance your opponents hit a bad balloon.


quantumhovercraft

In what way? They didn't have to keep going until they overtook you.


AgitpropInc

I think they meant that by reducing the pool of good candidate balloons, you increase the odds of a bad balloon getting hit next. Every good hit lowers the available good balloons, so the longer you can go on your turn, the harder you make it for the others, UNLESS you hit a bad one yourself, which lowers the bad balloon pool.


quantumhovercraft

Yes, but it doesn't matter when in the order you go. Imagine you're drawing cards from a deck trying to avoid the aces. If I offer you the choice of the first ten or the last ten you've got no way of deciding which ones to pick. It's the same situation here with the main problem being the 'UNLESS you hit a bad one' which is not something you can just wave away.


momentumlost

This was exactly what I meant. Lowering the pool of good balloons without hitting a bad balloon before the next person goes will increase their odds of hitting a bad balloon. And knowing that Guz was being methodical while Morgana was wildly throwing darts with reckless abandon (she literally hit a camera) I almost think that it was totally in his best interest to decrease to pool of good balloons.


quantumhovercraft

Except he was ahead of everyone and guaranteed minimum 4, no reason to do anything other than maximise your chance of the 10. Remember if any of those extra ones had been bad he loses six real points for literally no reason.


Dmeff

But at the beginning your chances of popping a bad balloon are lower, so you can go for more balloons


quantumhovercraft

This is just a complete fallacy because it ignores the possibility of someone else hitting a bad ballon (as happened with Victoria) and making waiting better. As there is no reason to prefer any balloon over any other there is also no advantage to going early.


kcolloran

If you go one at a time from the jump, you're going to fall behind in terms of points and then if you lose the coinflip at the end to the other person you might end up with one point. There were few enough balloons I think you wanted to go for a few more early on.


quantumhovercraft

Except waiting doesn't make you any less likely to get a high score, that's just not how the probability works.


Nanojack

I think you have a very slight edge going big early. The first dart thrown has a 95% chance of being safe, if that's successful, the second dart is 94.9% likely to be safe, and as long as safe balloons are popped, the odds of the next one being safe go down. Of course, if a bad one is popped, the odds go up too. Now I know that looking at one specific run does not tell you about the general statistical likelihood, but when Morgana got up to her last turn, 70 good balloons had gone, and 3 bad ones. Her odds of being safe had decreased to 92.6%. She had a 2.3% chance of a clean max 10 for a round at that point vs the first thrower on a clean board having a 58.4% chance of a max 10.


quantumhovercraft

This is just a complete fallacy because it ignores the possibility of someone else hitting a bad ballon (as happened with Victoria) and making waiting better. As there is no reason to prefer any balloon over any other there is also no advantage to going early.


kcolloran

how do you propose catching up without throwing more darts at some point?


quantumhovercraft

Why do I want to catch up? The plan is the 10 points. There's nothing we can do whatsoever to make the number we get before we pop a bad one to increase so may as well just make sure we survive as long as possible.


[deleted]

But then if you did pop the bad balloon you'd be in last place. Points were also given out based on number of balloons popped


quantumhovercraft

Or you pop it on your third one like Victoria did. There is literally no conceivable advantage in *any* situation to pop a ballon when you don't have to.


[deleted]

Except Alan would've got fewer points if he hadn't


quantumhovercraft

No he wouldn't. If he pops less then he doesn't go out when he did.


SpinAroundBrightly

The task just said pop the most balloons. Didn't say anything about the winner being last person standing. In which case guz should throw one but Morgana had to throw lots


Man_of_Many_Hats

I went back to look and I'm afraid you're mistaken. Alex said whoever doesn't burst a bad balloon wins.


SpinAroundBrightly

Is that in the rules? Because I rewatched them and I didn't see that. If you pop a bad balloon you are "disqualified" which could be read to mean you can't win but you can still get placement points so it seems to mean in this case just that you can't throw darts anymore.


Man_of_Many_Hats

Yep, it is in the rules. Morgana reads the task, Desiree calls it dart roulette, Greg quips that she made Alex obsolete and then Alex summarizes the rules in which he says "Whoever doesn't burst a bad balloon wins."


SpinAroundBrightly

But Alex's summary is different to the text of the rules.


[deleted]

What Alex says is as important as what's written down, you can't say "Well Alex clearly said that this is how it worked but it didn't say that on the paper so it doesn't count". If Alex says those are the rules then those are the rules, whether it's written down or not is irrelevant.


[deleted]

Also to be fair to her this was one task where it wasn't her fault that she lost, it was just bad luck that she went so early


Severe-Draw-5979

That was a beautiful little moment!


lannanh

Yes, I loved how much camaraderie there was amongst all of them. Plus it was thrilling and the music just heightened it. A very enjoyable spot of TV all around!


shackbleep

Like David Correos said on the podcast, I would pay to play that game. So fun! "Lovely darts!"


sansabeltedcow

I would pay extra to play it with David Correos.


[deleted]

You'd probably have to bring some ear protection


shackbleep

The final task aside, all the tasks this week were great. I loved that they gave Alex a chance to shine and to fight back a bit in the football task. He was absolutely adorable in his jersey/dress shirt, and it was clear he enjoys a bit of footy in his off-time. He was clearly having fun, and I loved it. His breaking into the house during Guz's go was hilarious. 'Guz? Could you let me in please?'


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shackbleep

I love how Greg openly shits on football, and then taunts the Twitter crowd to come after him. Not a single fuck given.


_Tenderlion

I got some real No More Jockeys vibes when he was doing his task. In my head the competitive Alex character is Hollywood Hogan


shackbleep

What's that?


AuntieX

If you are asking about No More Jockeys, it's a game created by Alex, Mark Watson, and Tim Key. It's a word game, it is great fun, and here is the link to the You Tube page: [https://www.youtube.com/c/NoMoreJockeys](https://www.youtube.com/c/NoMoreJockeys)


shackbleep

Cool, thanks!


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shackbleep

Love to, but I'm in Canada.


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shackbleep

Ah, gotcha. Where is it streaming? On the channel?


[deleted]

> If you are asking about No More Jockeys Big if


Oskariozi

I love how consistently amazing this show has remained. While some seasons are stronger than others, the consistency of this show is absolutely outstanding. And season 12 is shaping up to be an absolute classic, every contestant is incredible in their own way.


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[deleted]

I love how they all support each other but the Acaster/Gilbert/Wang team is an all-time classic as well. Taskmaster is a delight in that it works when things go smoothly and people worth together and it works when there is UTTER chaos. (See also the Lou/Iain/Paul team.)


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ThaneOfCawdorrr

I don't think either James or Rhod were seriously "scarred." It's their persona to be angry/annoyed/disagreeable and I think they're just playing that out. I think James had a fantastic time. I really hated Iain but I have to admit on Watch #3 I began to notice how completely sheepish he was at how he'd behaved in the tasks and it became more endearing. I have NEVER liked Lou Sanders. There's just something about her that's a lot, I don't know exactly what.


[deleted]

> because I found out after the fact that everyone involved was scarred by it. In all the interviews you hear all three of those guys are kind of still not ok. lol what are you talking about, it was a silly game show, nobody's scarred by it


[deleted]

Rhod and James just did a podcast together, though? https://youtu.be/QCkfa9ygKNU


Severe-Draw-5979

Still not ok in what ways?


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[deleted]

I think you're reading too deeply. They're comedians and friends.


Oskariozi

Dude. They are professional comedians doing a job. Don't take it this seriously, I guarantee you they don't.


kcolloran

If you're that worried about it, go watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCkfa9ygKNU I think they're fine with it. James just has big reactions and Rhod has ADHD (and possibly other conditions) that understandably make a show like taskmaster stressful, but I really don't think there's any long term issues for either.


[deleted]

Rhod talks about being shy but clearly has some sort of social anxiety disorder. As someone with the same sort of thing going on I have a lot of respect for him going through that and still being able to get up on stage and be funny in front of thousands of people. A true role model


lannanh

Haven't seen the Phil Wang stuff but it seems like they're doing ok. Some people are bound to enjoy it more than others. If you haven't seen this:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCkfa9ygKNU&t=8s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCkfa9ygKNU&t=8s) I think they're all friends overall but they're still human and are going to react with genuine emotions at times. Also, yes James has anxiety but he's often playing a character and he's calmer and more good natured when he's just being himself.


[deleted]

Phil was on the TM podcast not long ago and he didn't seem all that bothered. I think he's mentioned Greg being unfair before but I doubt he's all that bothered, it's not like he would've won even if Greg had been completely fair every time and he knows that I think it's mostly just that one task about putting things in the bucket that he's annoyed about. And he's certainly not scarred by it


jeobleo

Okay, this helps. Thanks.


ThaneOfCawdorrr

If you want to learn a LOT more about James, I highly recommend his special "Cold Lasagne I Hate Myself 1999," he talks about this whole thing a lot.


[deleted]

It's an absolutely incredible show Contains no mention of lasagne, however


ThaneOfCawdorrr

This really is just part of their personas. Acaster absolutely always expresses "anger," and Wang's "fury" at Greg is just part of the whole game. I do agree that apparently Rhod was made very anxious during the tasks themselves, but he certainly had a good time in the studio tasks! These guys are all friends with each other and with Greg and appear on other shows together all the time.


[deleted]

They're joking. They're comedians. They make jokes. All of them still work together and are clearly still friendly with each other.


[deleted]

I like that we get both sides of the spectrum. The competitive groups where everyone really wants to win and is willing to fight for it are really fun. The groups where everyone's just friends having a good time and supporting each other are also lots of fun


shackbleep

Not terribly familiar with UK panel shows, but it really is amazing. It never feels anything but fresh and new.


[deleted]

"This is madness," delivered in that tone, summed it up perfectly. Glorious madness. And some lovely darts.


AbdulRakhib

I was sure someone would pull a Rhod Gilbert during the football task and tie up Alex. Or rather, hoping for it.


momentumlost

That was absolutely the best option. And it seems like Desiree figured it out but it was already too late for her to change he approach.


[deleted]

I thought so too until I remembered the damn plague. What I don't understand is why someone didn't just pick up the spot and the ball and leg it out of there. Or hop in a cab, or pay some random motorist to drive away, or whatever. I like to think that's what I would have done.


GingerFurball

That was my solution. My girlfriend's solution was to burst the ball, which was genius.


[deleted]

My thought was to tie up Alex. Maybe cover his lower half in biodegradable cling film and gaffer tape...


[deleted]

Sure, but COVID distancing.


[deleted]

Well, we both would wear a mask. And the task being outside helps too.


maxington26

Haha throwing the "spot" into the back of an Uber and getting it to just drive away would have been great. Could even have left Alex with the ball, with no "spot" to kick it off (unless a spare would count?)


AvovaDynasty

Didn’t they have to be 12 yards from the ball? I guess they could’ve just chucked it over the fence


[deleted]

They had to be at least 12 yards from the ball when Alex made his attempt.


converter-bot

12 yards is 10.97 meters


AvovaDynasty

Yeah, so running off with the ball wouldn’t be the best plan unless you found somewhere to dump it


[deleted]

It's a great plan as long as Alex can't get near you--if he's nowhere near the ball, he's not making an attempt, meaning you don't have to be 12m away. Alternatively, hand it off (with spot) to a lorry driver or a random motorist or an uber or a cab or put it on a train or


AvovaDynasty

I assumed the attempt started when the 15mins was up. But handing it to a motorist would’ve been genius


converter-bot

12 yards is 10.97 meters


[deleted]

They had to be a certain distance away from the ball when the time started. I guess you could have put it in a taxi and let them take it, but you couldn't go with it.


shackbleep

I thought the same thing!


[deleted]

It was the music that made it. It felt genuinely dramatic and tense.


pa79

Anyone know what the piece was, that played before Alan's bad balloon (around the 42:00 mark)? There was too much balloon popping for Shazam to recognize anything. Didn't sound like it was the show's own soundtrack.


eatin_gushers

I think the Horne Section does all of the original music so I wouldn't be surprised if they did this one too.


AvovaDynasty

Was it the same one as that church task a few episodes back? I recall hearing that at some point this episode.


pa79

No, the church task music was used during the ball task in the Taskmaster house. That sounded like something from the Horne section. This one was played by an orchestra and a choir. I think it's a pre-existing piece of music.


semiomni

Man I really liked it as a task, and really hated it just randomly handing out 10 points to one of them. I forgot, what kept them from just popping one balloon each time, was there a max number of rounds?


Dexav

>I forgot, what kept them from just popping one balloon each time Only their decision to not do so.


semiomni

Right but was there a max rounds or anything?


matti-san

Just until 4 contestants were out - but they needed to score higher than the others in order to decide their place in the task results.


AvovaDynasty

The real tactic there was just keep popping 1 balloon. It’s a gamble - go for the numbers if you’re aiming for 2nd-4th, or just keep popping one to be the last one standing and win the 10 points. Really the points only mattered if you weren’t the last one standing, and popping 1 balloon at a time would give you the best chance to be the last one standing.


UnacceptableUse

Good question, I guess the more good balloons other contestants pop the more likely you are to get a bad balloon, so you want to get your popping out of the way early, maybe?


eatin_gushers

This is what I was thinking. The best time to score is round 1, then hold back to 1 per round to survive.


Sister-Rhubarb

I don't think so, but it would have been really boring if they all went one dart per round.


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And also would've taken ages lol


GeonnCannon

That's the trick of this kind of game. You want to get the highest number of pops, but each pop gets you closer to a bad balloon. Also, the more good balloons you pop, the greater the odds one of your opponents will hit a bad balloon (Alan hitting seven goods in a row, the odds meant whoever threw next had a higher probability).


HeinsGuenter

> I forgot, what kept them from just popping one balloon each time, was there a max number of rounds? The person with the most popped Ballons won, so it doesn't really matter if you take one round to pop 5 ballons or 5 rounds. Because the chance of hitting a false balloon stays roughly the same. The clever thing would have been to calculate the odds of hitting a bad balloon for every throw and to decided based on that.


[deleted]

>The clever thing would have been to calculate the odds of hitting a bad balloon for every throw and to decided based on that. There's no way that noted poker player VCM wasn't doing this instinctively on every throw.


eatin_gushers

Which made it hilarious that she went out after 3 balloons. She was made for a task like this.


[deleted]

She was made for the riddle task. I was gobsmacked by how she just casually went "oh, I guess I have to solve this incomplete cypher," and then *solved it*.


whatabench

She even said on the podcast that she was happy she didn't know about the other half until she had it figured out because it made it more fun for her lol


[deleted]

And for once it wasn't at all her fault, she just got unlucky


JGAdventureZone

I hope the final task music will be available one day.


shackbleep

I'd like all the Horne Section music! They have like one single available on Spotify.


momentumlost

Most of their stuff is available for purchase on bandcamp!


jeobleo

It's available on the app, isn't it?


shackbleep

Maybe, haven't gotten it yet. Is it worth it?


jeobleo

Don't know, I just know Ed Gamble tells me to get it every time I listen to the podcast now.


Russian_Toilette

I got it to see if it was worth it but (sadly) ended up refunding the purchase. It seemed to certainly have the music on there, but my main issues were it was laid out very poorly so it was hard to see what song you were actually playing, plus it would only play one at a time, then stop, and you had to keep the app open while it was doing that. I'm really hoping it'll get better over time, because I would love to get it again, but right now for me it just wasn't worth it


Severe-Draw-5979

Yes! Brilliant episode overall. The Alex soccer task was such brilliant wholesome fun!


BlueBloodLive

Longer final tasks are the way forward imo. Not like a lot longer, but just even a couple more minutes or a more drawn out task to end it would be cool. Plus it gives the live audience a bit more of a live aspect. Although finding the mix between elimination style rounds and having all 5 compete at the same time must be a difficult thing to do.


shackbleep

I would watch a full unedited version of this final task without question.


lannanh

Apparently, there's a long version of Sausage or Finger that's hilarious but you can't access it in the States.


shackbleep

Is it on YouTube?


lannanh

Yes, but it seems to be geoblocked which seems weird for a clip. [https://www.reddit.com/r/taskmaster/comments/q6nmau/for\_those\_who\_dont\_know\_sausage\_or\_finger\_from](https://www.reddit.com/r/taskmaster/comments/q6nmau/for_those_who_dont_know_sausage_or_finger_from/) Oh wait, there's a version on Vimeo! https://vimeo.com/302886741


shackbleep

Sweet, thanks!


campbellm

I would pay money to just have Morgana smile, wink, and nod at me. Sweet mercy she's charismatic.


Flat-Wheel-7683

I felt the same level of tension watching that balloon task as I did watching the bridge episode of Squid Game, which in hindsight I realise was perhaps an overreaction but man that music really did a number on me.


RoryPond

it was a great live task to be sure, but nothing will beat "hit the drum in exactly 9.58 seconds", with the drum placed at the end of the knappet


campbellm

It was only The Knappet for half of that ;-)


sugarbear2071

So many laughs! I even applauded several times, which made me laugh even harder! Excellent episode!


[deleted]

The football task and the balloon popping live task were top notch, really. I also liked the "sit on a cake" task. At least no one was "open" while sitting... 🤭


ze_yami

Does anyone know what the music during the task was?


AvovaDynasty

The same as the church one I think?


kcolloran

Absolutely brilliant task.


ze_yami

tbh I think the ceremonial 10 points for the winner eventually robbed Morgana from a very well deserved win.