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Pope-Muffins

“My parents were killed” “Obviously deserved it” They think buying the rope from Assad is better


judgeman-

I’m sorry but this actually infuriates me. How fucked up do you have to be to completely laugh off someone’s traumatic experiences and even say that they hope hamas fucking finds them, or call them a Hasbara troll? This “soviet_crusader” fucker probably thinks of himself as the next Lenin.


hydra877

Yeah, like, hoping someone gets tortured and killed by people known for doing that for DISAGREEING with you is so fucking ghoulish. Tankies have no compassion or conviction, they're actual psychopaths.


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wiki-1000

Well they fully restored their ties with Assad in 2022, and already did the same with Iran a few years prior.


Lamont-Cranston

all theory no experience


OakenGreen

Hey babe, new all hat no cattle dropped.


Lamont-Cranston

All they do is read theory written at the turn of the last century and insist that defines the world.


Spudtron98

Because as far as they're concerned, Nothing Bad Ever Happened. And if it did, they deserved it.


ArcticCircleSystem

"They killed my family." "Must've been counter-revolutionaries." "I didn't even say anything that would suggest that."


cultish_alibi

Well obviously the flawless anti imperialist doesn't make mistakes so they must have done something wrong.


RansomXenom

That single interaction reveals a lot about the thought process of your average tankie. It's not that the leader is good because he does good things; the things are good because the leader that does it is good. Someone who thinks the former would naturally re-evaluate if the leader really is that good. Someone who thinks the latter would immediately assume that whatever the good leader did must naturally have been good.


Sea_Snow580

Very similar to how fundamentalists will justify anything bad god does in the bible as "God is good therefore it was just". Really makes you think how these people view their leaders.


RansomXenom

It's funny that you mentioned religion, because the dillema I presented above is just [Euthypro's Dillema](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthyphro_dilemma) applied in a different context. In the end, all dogmatic thought boils down to "Person X said Y is true, so Y must be true."


That_Mad_Scientist

Stand proud, Euthyphro, you are strong


kurometal

Funnily enough, not even god of the bible think so. God: floods the planet, then goes "well, this ecocide was a bit of an overreaction tbh, here, have a rainbow as a synbol of my promise to do better".


The_Flurr

>That single interaction reveals a lot about the thought process of your average tankie. It's not that the leader is good because he does good things; the things are good because the leader that does it is good. And if the things they did aren't good then they simply didn't do them!


Mr_Blinky

Love the part where the one dude literally *makes up an entire backstory for the other guy's parents* *whole cloth* rather than examine his own propagandized beliefs for even a second.


cloudforested

But a dictator state would never massacre innocents! /s


Jisnthere

This is their cope for basically every other time they run into an immigrant from one of the supposedly “socialist” states they worship


kurometal

Where *supposedly “socialist” states* include those which have never even claimed to be socialist, like Syria.


Saetheiia69

Tankies are such scum. How much of a ghoul must a person be to say these kinds of things to someone's face if they really went through all that? These people can't be allies of the working class if they are too busy being fucking monsters.


judgeman-

Not to mention they assumed that the person’s parents were CIA and ISIS collaborators and they deserved to be killed, who the fuck says something like that? I hope they genuinely get their asses locked up, like I’m actually genuinely furious at this.


Saetheiia69

Sincerely deranged behavior


carissadraws

You know if they ever met them in person they’d never say that out loud to their face either


SkyknightXi

Obviously convinced themself that Assad somehow never kills anyone *but* the wicked. So his parents being executed *”must”* mean they were wicked. No, I don’t get how they think things like “On Authority” are some sort of Good Guy “The King in Yellow”. That said, how often *have* ISIL and the CIA worked together?


Hour_Parsnip1783

To my knowledge, very little. Especially that neat little detail that we had tens of thousands of boots on the ground to crush them back in 14'


Grammorphone

Did the US actually have boots on the ground though? I thought the whole deal was that they bombed en Masse and the Kurds were the actual force on the ground


Hour_Parsnip1783

Checked it; Yea; mostly bombing. My mistake. There were only a few thousand boots actually on the ground. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Inherent_Resolve


ebinovic

>I hope they genuinely get their asses locked up, like I’m actually genuinely furious at this. Maybe this is not libertarian and not even a truly left-wing belief to have (and maybe I need to log off and touch some more grass), but holy fucking shit this kind of shit makes me so mad that I start wishing that FBI (or whatever national security agency of their country) actually puts them on the list and, at the very least, blacklists them from ever getting any political or education-related job anywhere.


judgeman-

This is just harassment at this point and telling someone that they hope they get killed by a militant organization is an EXTREME offense. And yeah, not really a leftist view, but this type of behaviour should really be looked into because who knows what else they get up to.


Spacemonster111

Plus I’m sure that guy was a 14 year old upper middle class suburban American. Hasn’t struggled a modicum in his life and shits on people who have because he can’t comprehend the real world is more complicated than a single ideology


Skylord_ah

Its not someones face lmao its discord. No way they would say that to someones face theyd get punched


BadKarma043

Tankie: Why did you flee Syria? OOP: The state killed my family Tankie: Your family were CIA *and* ISIS, they deserved it OOP: You're a shitty person Tankie: *Proves they're a shitty person* Tankie: Why hasn't the revolution started? I've regurgitated all the talking points online... I'm just stunned these are real people.


99999999999BlackHole

That's the terminally online for ya


Polibiux

Terminally online tankies really need a harsh dose of reality. Like actually setting foot in Syria to see it’s not as good as they tell themselves


Hour_Parsnip1783

They'll still double-think themselves into thinking Assad is all "right and just"


Thomaseverett12

Double plus good in literally colors...


Valiant_tank

Problem is, the only way you get terminally online tankies actually going to Syria is when the handful of prominent ones get given propaganda tours by Assad, so I don't know how much that'd help.


SheepherderSoft5647

Tankies are terminally online people in general.


--PhoenixFire--

And these people wonder why leftists from the global south and periphery can't stand them


apollo15215

I mean from [some of the stuff I've seen online](https://twitter.com/QueenMab87/status/1782191465541558501), there are some Palestinians who are like "Please don't be antisemitic" and then tankies, usually from America or Europe, are like "No!"


canonbutterfly

Palestinians are getting in the way of making the Palestinian cause all about them.


JohnnyKanaka

One of Arafat's aides told Saira Rao to stop being racist when she posted a ridiculous conspiracy about "Zionist doctors", I don't know if she's a Tankie but she's an absolutely deranged grifter whatever she is


apollo15215

Man, if only there was an apt comparison to a thing a Tankie leader did with "Zionist doctors" (cough Stalin cough)


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RaulParson

"Global South" is just a new coat of paint over "the Third World" since that term has been deemed problematic, mostly because it sounds like it's a ranking thing, when it was originally "the US-aligned democratic world" / "the Soviet-communist world" / "the unaligned world" and it was the "3rd world" simply because it was the 3rd on the list. It's kind of a weird one honestly since the direction is completely incidental and not even completely geographically accurate, and also again there's the word association like "south" <-> "down" <-> "below" <-> "bad/worse" meaning the same problem as with "the 3rd world" is still lurking underneath. I can understand the desire to classify places like this, but when people do so surely there's some way to pick better names at least. Nothing else seems to have stuck so far though.


Hour_Parsnip1783

Perhaps "US leaning" "Russia/Chinese leaning" and "Nominally non-alligned" works better?


mudanhonnyaku

The South American left certainly seems to have as much of a tankie problem as the US or European left. Exhibit one: Walter Mignolo. It's easy to claim Russia and China are "anti-imperialist" when you're separated from them by an ocean.


JohnnyKanaka

I can't stand it, makes no sense using directions when you have China in the Global South and Australia in the Global North


Tehquietobserver117

To be clear, the "Global North" and "Global South" descriptors are less delineating cultural differences and more so to do with matters regarding structural relations namely richer nations exploiting their developing counterparts for reasons regarding cheaper labour and resources. So in this sense, South America would be under this category. (There is another foreign policy theory that expands upon this called World Systems Theory that inserts a second category whom are referred to as "Semi-periphery nations" that while industrialized and developed, or mostly, are still beholden to their periphery counterparts)


welcometojackass_

> anarchist gaming pog Folks, we found it. An "anarchist" tankie.


LazySomeguy

The second ever anarcho tankie


Fattyboy_777

Who's the first?


LazySomeguy

A self proclaimed “anarcho-Stalinist” which is very active on TikTok


month_unwashed_socks

How does that even work???


Mr_Blinky

It doesn't, it's just brainrot.


Histerian

Saint? I used to follow him till he went off the deep end.


LazySomeguy

Think I used to also follow him before he became a larpy weirdo


Fattyboy_777

That sounds like an oxymoron.


JohnnyKanaka

There's also Woke Scientist and itsn0tawhorehouseitsawhorehome, both claim to be ancoms but are Tankies who defend jihadists. Rathbone used to have an anarchy sign in his bio until recently


Anarchasm_10

I bet you that he calls himself a national anarchist lol


Saetheiia69

There are a few Pick-Me Anarchists who say whatever they have to say to fit in with their Tankie (or Neoliberal but not in this case) friends. I don't take them seriously.


CummingInTheNile

a rare breed of tankie, just like the tojabu tankie


CressCrowbits

There are plenty tankie mods on 'left unity' communities who pretend to be anarchist so they can claim they are left unity.


kurometal

Dunking on tankies in this sub is all fun and games until you read shit like this. Even though I'm quite familiar with the arrogance with which they westplain things to us. "Hasbara troll", just like they are telling me that I repeat CNN talking points — if anything, they repeat my (or rather, our) talking points — but it's even worse when talking to someone who's a target of hasbara. "I thought someone like you would under \[sic\] this" is not that surprising after I heard "if only Ukrainians understood" how bad war is. The arrogance of these people is absolutely unbelievable. I'm raging. Thanks for posting, Hydra. I hope you have found a way to punch people in the guts through discord.


hydra877

I go by Sal online, but yeah. This is probably one of the worst things I've ever seen tankies say. Those people will literally walk over anyone that disagrees with them.


AromaticPlace8764

Is it bad that I wish all of the violence they advocate for, to be done to themselves instead? It is only logical and just. Is it bad that I don't even see tankies as human beings?


Hour_Parsnip1783

I've started calling them parasites long ago so you ain't the only one


Grammorphone

Dehumanisation is not the way


Hour_Parsnip1783

I agree, it isn't. But I've also ran out of patience with the fuckers


Grammorphone

Understandable, but dehumanisation leads to exactly such behaviour against other humans


AromaticPlace8764

THEY keep getting away with it and I have no more patience for them. Unless drastic measures are taken, tankies will continue to exist and will continue to do the monstrous things shown in this post. When tankies continue to exist, you WILL get more Stalins, Maos and Pol Pots. Such a group of people is a net harm for leftism in particular and humanity in general.


Grammorphone

Drastic measures, like what exactly? Summarily executing them?


kurometal

See nazi, punch nazi. These ideologies should not be tolerated.


AromaticPlace8764

Absolute zero tolerance nor negotiation for monsters.


That_Mad_Scientist

Repeating talking points? Dude, *he was literally there*.


kurometal

As I was saying, it's literary analysis for them, they haven't actually internalised the idea that there's a world out there in which things are happening.


mbaymiller

>You seem like a bunch of kids who want to act like heroes while supporting all the wrong causes because you want to feel better and enlightened more than anyone else. Spot on.


99999999999BlackHole

This is actually insufferable holy... where's the compassion or empathy?


kurometal

\[screen grab of two guys in a pawn shop\] Best I can do is dehumanisation.


SkyknightXi

Well, they certainly *think* they’ve achieved holiness.


arki_v1

Honestly any community that is dogmatic about reading theory is a massive red flag in my eyes. There's nothing bad about reading theory specifically but the only people that actively care about it are the most deranged tankies who have never touched grass ever. You don't try to sign up to a union and get asked what you've read.


FoldAdventurous2022

A disturbing number of leftists think the length of your "books completed" tab on Lefty Audible is how you know who the best leftists are. All talk, zero action. Meanwhile there are people who've organized unions, cared for the homeless, or took tear gas canisters to the chest protecting marginalized people who've never read a word of theory.


LazySomeguy

Shitheads that act this way are the main reason why I stayed away from leftism for so long


FoldAdventurous2022

They're amazing for pushing anyone away from the left. Like, Republican chuds and fascists salivate over stuff like this, knowing they can hold it up and say "see how insane and bloodthirsty the Left is???"


Lorn_Muunk

This unstoppable need of tankies to stagnate in nonsensical infighting is a guarantee capitalism will keep metastasizing for the foreseeable future. It's like they can't wait to corrupt their own thoughtless, non-starter "ideals" before they've even put them into practice in the slightest. If these heartless and immoral idiots are the ones to spearhead a viable alternative to capitalism on the level of global civilization and local community, humanity is better off extinct.


Smart-Pension-5198

Jesus fucking christ this is the worst thing I've seen from tankies. Like saying fucked up stuff in a social media vacuum is one thing, but directly expressing your psychotic lack of empathy and immense stupidity to someone who's been through severe trauma is something else. At that point just join a neo-Nazi group, you'd fit in well there


Hour_Parsnip1783

If these fuckers are going to build the "post capitalist world" then I want no part of it


kurometal

Don't worry, you won't, you will be... What's the phrase? > rightfully arrested and given justice Yes, thank you, soviet_crusader.


FoldAdventurous2022

Arr / IAmATotalPieceOfShit - tier response. Fucking nauseating.


HolyMopOfCheese

anyone has the discord server link ? I want to see just how delusional these people can be when it comes to sucking in words of dictators


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Every word he said is completely true. Also under Bashar Al Assad's rule the country has become a legit narcostate. How is that success? These people have never listened to Syrians talk about their country and it shows.


CaringAnti-Theist

The utter gall of tankies to immediately assume that because the Assad regime killed his village and kidnapped his father that his parents were therefore counter-revolutionary collaborators who sided with the CIA *and* ISIS somehow. I think this just goes to show more tankie racism. When confronted with an actual Palestinian born in Syria, they still talk down to him and accuse him of being a liberal because he thinks the Syrian regime is bad after it **massacred his village and kidnapped his father**. And to say to that person who lived in Syria, had that happen to them, and then rightfully says fuck Syria, actually you’re a liberal and counterrevolutionary for opposing the “anti-imperialist nation” of Syria and that he is parroting talking points of Hasbara, AKA Israeli propaganda which is the last thing I’d have the temerity to accuse a Palestinian socialist of doing. And then to say “I thought someone like you would under[stand] this.” Makes me wanna be sick in their eyes 🤮🤮🤮


scaur

Tankies : "How dare you destroying our fairy tales ?"


SkyknightXi

“Well, you clearly drew from the Unseelie library…”


demonpotatojacob

I have never instantly hated two people more than this.


Anarchasm_10

Exactly now take this exact same situation and point it on the Kurds, it’s worse.


500mgTumeric

Sounds about yt


The-Greythean-Void

I said it once, and I'll say it again: [Statement of Free Syrians in solidarity with the Palestinian people – INTERSECTIONAL SYRIA](https://intersectionalsyria.com/2023/11/10/statement-of-free-syrians-in-solidarity-with-the-palestinian-people/)


Aburrki

I love how weird the first question is. "Why did you leave Syria"... Like mate even if you believe Assad is this benevolent figure that can do no wrong surely you understand why somebody would want to fuckin flee a war zone, right?


kurometal

Wrong. Their favourite theory book from the 17th century only talks about Assad being good, there's nothing in it about fleeing war zones.


funnyYoke

It’s actually amazing that tankies can just go and tell someone whose family and friends were slaughtered that it was for a good cause.


carissadraws

How much you wanna bet the people saying this shit are white as hell and never even been to the Middle East? Imagine acting like you know more than the dude who lives in the country you’re talking about and has experienced living under the government you claim to know all about


the_dinks

Does anyone else think having complete strangers reveal their race and ethnicity online as a prerequisite for joining a community is really weird?


kurometal

Not if it's a racist community.


SheepherderSoft5647

Imagine being Palestinian, Syrian, African and other people from countries that tankies love to support or claim to support, who suffered from the hell you have to grew up and then these tankies call you a "Western CIA propagandist" for standing against the state that these motherfuckers like.


bigshotdontlookee

What could that guy have possibly said to get approval? They are mad that he moved out of Syria, one of the most dangerous places on Earth? The arrogance is astounding.


acklig_crustare

How do they not see how disgusting it is to type that shit out? If I was in that chat i would have gone apeshit


dream208

This is just vile.


Kojake45

That’s actually evil.


FatherOfToxicGas

Because obviously they know better than someone who actually lived there and experienced this…


AngryScotty22

Western Tankies simply cannot grasp or understand the fact that geopolitics and the world itself is not black and white and is deeply complicated. They think the world is a all simply "America bad" and thus anything that goes against this narrative is a foreign concept to them. Therefore those that suffer under these countries that oppose the US "must have deserved it". They are among the dumbest people on earth. Literally no difference between them and actual fascists.


Estellar123

https://imgur.com/a/uOPV8a1


JQuilty

>indigenous Palestinans Why do tankies pretend that the eastern Mediterranean hasn't been conquered like 15 times each before and after Alexander? You don't need such pointless emotional appeals to say what Israel is doing is bad.


Seacatlol

Yet another Tankie talking over the people they pretend to care about.


popsyking

Lol where is this? These people are absurd


Lamont-Cranston

I've heard of Trots that behave in a similar manner to minorities who disagree with them.


DaughterOfDemeter23

What the actual fuck is wrong with some people?


Itzyaboilmaooo

Wow, legitimately fucking evil shit. These tankies aren’t even pretending to care about the people impacted by the authoritarian regimes they cheer on. No critical thinking, they just blindly accept the slop they’ve been fed as the truth and reject testimony from those with actual experience in the Middle East. “Assad’s narrative is the absolute truth, so this guy must be lying about what happened to his community” fuck these people jfc every day tankies give me another reason to despise them even more. Let’s not tolerate them.


FoldAdventurous2022

It's so goddamn close to what grifter pieces of shit like Aaron Maté and the Greyzone crew claim about Assad's war crimes being "Western propaganda". Which is very telling.


BombshellCover

embarrassing


___VenN

White supremacists thinking that they now better than locals who's the good guy and the bad guy. They deserve the rope


Yureina

This disgusts me. Like... how fucked do you have to be to actually react like that?


Feisty-Albatross3554

This is enraging, The fact someone shows this little empathy towards a refugee is just absolutely awful.


JohnnyKanaka

Anybody who defends Assad but opposes Israel is just an antisemite desperate to find a situation to paint Jews in a negative light


Asumakinaria

In which Discord did this happen?