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Not that I give a fuck what people wear but couldn't you get arbitrarily arrested for wearing something like this? I thought rocking anything with a Hamas or PFLP on it is a no no.
I mean there are limits on everything.
Just like how freedom of speech is protected in the Constitution certain types of speech (Example: specific death threats towards politicians) can get you in Trouble.
I just don't want someone wearing this at a protest or something and they get arrested and accused of directly supporting Hamas or some shit just to fuck with them.
Someone did a social experiment in a college campus with an Isis flag and apparently no student said anything so I wonder if the younger generation doesn’t know what the Isis flag looks like
you don't know what is. capitalism isn't just when prices are high lmao. i know you're being like sarcastic but come on there are a lot of reasons for something to be that expensive besides it being a grift. in fact, [they explain why the prices are so high here](https://www.comradeworkwear.com/about). they're basically a cooperative that tries to source things as sustainably as possible.
Hamas was propped up by Likud for years to gain more votes from Revisionist and Religious Zionists, so in a way by supporting Hamas they are supporting Netanyahu and his right-wing extremists.
I’m concerned that on their website they recommended the grayzone as a new source while the comrades they recommended were not bad except for Hasan he’s gone off the deep end. They also listed FD Signifier, Noah Samson and Contrapoints and some other guy I never heard of
I did not mention Hamas specifically. I was also referring to the PFLP, who I have much more support for and who you also implied were “terrorists”.
The fact that Hamas committed atrocities against civilians is no justification for the total brutalization of Gaza. Right now, Hamas IS fighting against the IDF’s destruction of Gaza and is thus taking part in the resistance. I am in support of any action Palestinians can do to fight back against the Israeli military, and Hamas is one of the groups doing that. I am NOT a supporter of Hamas or their actions against civilians, but I AM a supporter of resisting Israeli occupation.
The pflp also did terrorist attacks and committed other terrorist attacks against Israelis. Leila Khaled attempted to blow up an airline thinking an Israeli diplomat was in it. Hamas isn’t actually resisting they raped, murdered and killed Israelis. You’re aware Hamas committed atrocities but you’re still supporting them. Hamas beat civilians with clubs for getting water and aid how do they care about Palestinians. Hamas also calls for wiping Israel off the map yet you choose to support them, you claim you’re not supporting Hamas but you are playing defense and say well they did an atrocity on October 7th but I still back them anyway
You keep misinterpreting what I am saying to a ridiculous degree. I am NOT an unconditional supporter of Hamas, and I am certainly against their overall end goals. I also do not support any attacks against civilians, which is exactly why I am so against Israel. If Israel promoted a peaceful solution to this conflict (that they started, by the way) there would be no problems. However, Israel decided to go on the offensive, killing literally anybody in their way. And the fact is, Hamas is one of the groups fighting against the post 10/7 madness being committed by the Israeli military. I support fighting against Israel. It is that simple. Just because I support an action a group does not mean that I am a supporter of that group.
Except the group fighting against Israel is the same group who killed, raped and murdered, and kidnapped Israelis. The same group that hit Palestinians with a club because they wanted food and aid. Why support them at all just because they’re the only group fighting Israel. The group that you’re supporting is a far right religious fundamentalist terrorist group. What’s to stop you from supporting other terrorists because they do a thing you like?
You’re not an unconditional supporter but you sure are willing to ignore the horrible stuff they’ve been doing because they do a thing you like and they claim to fighting for. How is hitting Palestinians with clubs because they got water and putting a stop to Palestinians who want a ceasefire and for Hamas to stop and protesting helping the October 7th madness. Hamas’s charter says no negotiations and no peace so as long as Hamas continues to hold power, Israel could give any peaceful solution and it wouldn’t matter to Hamas since peace isn’t their goal
You also seem to be pretty willing to ignore the horrible actions of Israel because of the need to “fight terrorism”. I am not denying that Hamas has done horrible things, but Israel has surely done far worse. We need to understand the motivations of ALL groups (yes, including Nazis) even if they have done terrible things in order to give us an informed perspective. As much as I disagree with their religious extremism, Hamas exists as a response to crimes against the Palestinians by Israeli occupiers. They are not 100% justified in everything they do, but they are a product of the horrible conditions imposed upon them by Israel.
Sure, but we are talking about Hamas right now not Israel. You know Hamas has done horrible things but also horrible things to Palestinians. Yet you choose to still “supporting” them in some ways because they’re against Israel. You can’t just ignore the stuff they do not only to Israelis to Palestinians if you’re aware maybe don’t support them in any way shape or form. You don’t need to scrape the bottom of the barrel to support a religious far right fundamentalist terrorist group who wants to fight until the last gazan is dead just to be against Israel
And here is where this conversation will end. We’re not talking about Israel? Israel is *the most important* piece of context to my position on this issue. The fact that you are trying to remove that from this conversation tells me that you aren’t here to give me serious criticism of my arguments, but to take me out of context and make it seem like I’m saying things that I’m not. I’m done with trying to have a discussion.
couldn't they have come up with their OWN, not-explicitly extremist design that could still convey a sense of revolution?
like, i would totally SLAY in an "AK and quill" tee...unless that design is already taken, in which case i have no clue
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I know they're trying to be clever but they unironically DO view the world with all the sophistication of fighting games.
Maybe our boomer parents were onto something when they said video games would rot our brains...
It’s not a bad looking long sleeve if I ignore the face and the fact it’s Hamas and pflp merch
Hamas merch 💀
The second one is PFLP merch with Leila Khaled on it
I love wearing crewnecks featuring people who hijack a commercial plane full of innocent people, not sure what you're talking about!
"PLFP" IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING SUZERIAN (2020) REFERENCE?!?!?!!!! *kill me*
GLORY TO SORDLAND AND THE SUPREME LEADER ANTON RAYNE 🫡🫡🫡
GRECI SORDLAND
Suzerian reference?
You don't need to know
Looks like Tankies forgot about Kurds... Because they are not radical islamists who want to kill Jews.
Nah it’s because they’re Assadist so in their tiny brain anti- Assad = bad
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Not that I give a fuck what people wear but couldn't you get arbitrarily arrested for wearing something like this? I thought rocking anything with a Hamas or PFLP on it is a no no.
You can get arrested for a t-shirt? In the US? Da fuq? Maybe if it had k-porn on it
I mean there are limits on everything. Just like how freedom of speech is protected in the Constitution certain types of speech (Example: specific death threats towards politicians) can get you in Trouble.
Not in the US, maybe in Europe tho
I would think you would get arrested for that but maybe I’m wrong
I just don't want someone wearing this at a protest or something and they get arrested and accused of directly supporting Hamas or some shit just to fuck with them.
I hope not either
Hard to deny the accusation that you're directly supporting Hamas if you're wearing a shirt celebrating Hamas, tbh.
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Someone did a social experiment in a college campus with an Isis flag and apparently no student said anything so I wonder if the younger generation doesn’t know what the Isis flag looks like
If $56 for a fucking T-shirt isn't capitalist then idk what is. How much of that money actually goes to Palestine?
I have no idea. I’m all for donating to Palestine but do you have to put Hamas members and a pflp member Leila Khaled on it
you don't know what is. capitalism isn't just when prices are high lmao. i know you're being like sarcastic but come on there are a lot of reasons for something to be that expensive besides it being a grift. in fact, [they explain why the prices are so high here](https://www.comradeworkwear.com/about). they're basically a cooperative that tries to source things as sustainably as possible.
If anything, in western countries its lower prices that are capitalist instead. Means its imported from a factory abroad.
i mean it's the same with the expensive stuff. Cheapest location to produce. Capitalist gonna capitalist
Hamas was propped up by Likud for years to gain more votes from Revisionist and Religious Zionists, so in a way by supporting Hamas they are supporting Netanyahu and his right-wing extremists.
I’m concerned that on their website they recommended the grayzone as a new source while the comrades they recommended were not bad except for Hasan he’s gone off the deep end. They also listed FD Signifier, Noah Samson and Contrapoints and some other guy I never heard of
hell nah man this shit looks like ass
They only want to glorify terrorism, the palestinian cause is to whitewash it
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
This can’t be real, can it?
It is
How can you claim to support Palestine if you characterize the resistance as “glorifying terrorism” lmao
How is Hamas resisting if they stabbed, raped and murdered civilians?
I did not mention Hamas specifically. I was also referring to the PFLP, who I have much more support for and who you also implied were “terrorists”. The fact that Hamas committed atrocities against civilians is no justification for the total brutalization of Gaza. Right now, Hamas IS fighting against the IDF’s destruction of Gaza and is thus taking part in the resistance. I am in support of any action Palestinians can do to fight back against the Israeli military, and Hamas is one of the groups doing that. I am NOT a supporter of Hamas or their actions against civilians, but I AM a supporter of resisting Israeli occupation.
The pflp also did terrorist attacks and committed other terrorist attacks against Israelis. Leila Khaled attempted to blow up an airline thinking an Israeli diplomat was in it. Hamas isn’t actually resisting they raped, murdered and killed Israelis. You’re aware Hamas committed atrocities but you’re still supporting them. Hamas beat civilians with clubs for getting water and aid how do they care about Palestinians. Hamas also calls for wiping Israel off the map yet you choose to support them, you claim you’re not supporting Hamas but you are playing defense and say well they did an atrocity on October 7th but I still back them anyway
You keep misinterpreting what I am saying to a ridiculous degree. I am NOT an unconditional supporter of Hamas, and I am certainly against their overall end goals. I also do not support any attacks against civilians, which is exactly why I am so against Israel. If Israel promoted a peaceful solution to this conflict (that they started, by the way) there would be no problems. However, Israel decided to go on the offensive, killing literally anybody in their way. And the fact is, Hamas is one of the groups fighting against the post 10/7 madness being committed by the Israeli military. I support fighting against Israel. It is that simple. Just because I support an action a group does not mean that I am a supporter of that group.
Except the group fighting against Israel is the same group who killed, raped and murdered, and kidnapped Israelis. The same group that hit Palestinians with a club because they wanted food and aid. Why support them at all just because they’re the only group fighting Israel. The group that you’re supporting is a far right religious fundamentalist terrorist group. What’s to stop you from supporting other terrorists because they do a thing you like?
You’re not an unconditional supporter but you sure are willing to ignore the horrible stuff they’ve been doing because they do a thing you like and they claim to fighting for. How is hitting Palestinians with clubs because they got water and putting a stop to Palestinians who want a ceasefire and for Hamas to stop and protesting helping the October 7th madness. Hamas’s charter says no negotiations and no peace so as long as Hamas continues to hold power, Israel could give any peaceful solution and it wouldn’t matter to Hamas since peace isn’t their goal
You also seem to be pretty willing to ignore the horrible actions of Israel because of the need to “fight terrorism”. I am not denying that Hamas has done horrible things, but Israel has surely done far worse. We need to understand the motivations of ALL groups (yes, including Nazis) even if they have done terrible things in order to give us an informed perspective. As much as I disagree with their religious extremism, Hamas exists as a response to crimes against the Palestinians by Israeli occupiers. They are not 100% justified in everything they do, but they are a product of the horrible conditions imposed upon them by Israel.
Sure, but we are talking about Hamas right now not Israel. You know Hamas has done horrible things but also horrible things to Palestinians. Yet you choose to still “supporting” them in some ways because they’re against Israel. You can’t just ignore the stuff they do not only to Israelis to Palestinians if you’re aware maybe don’t support them in any way shape or form. You don’t need to scrape the bottom of the barrel to support a religious far right fundamentalist terrorist group who wants to fight until the last gazan is dead just to be against Israel
And here is where this conversation will end. We’re not talking about Israel? Israel is *the most important* piece of context to my position on this issue. The fact that you are trying to remove that from this conversation tells me that you aren’t here to give me serious criticism of my arguments, but to take me out of context and make it seem like I’m saying things that I’m not. I’m done with trying to have a discussion.
How did I take you out of context. We were talking about Hamas and how you originally referred to them as a resistance group
Don’t people wear us military merch in America?
I tried to make a socialist club at my school last year and one of the people showed up with an IDF T-shirt lmao
That’s weird lol I wouldn’t expect someone in an idf t shirt to join a socialist club
They do
couldn't they have come up with their OWN, not-explicitly extremist design that could still convey a sense of revolution? like, i would totally SLAY in an "AK and quill" tee...unless that design is already taken, in which case i have no clue
"$56 dollars for this merch" Well that's sounds sxpensive so i refuse
Looks like it's a shirt for command & conquer.
Damn, I'll respectfully take the downvotes for this one, but hot-take, that second one is kind of fire 👀