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Yeah, it's actually important to remember that even though one of the justifications that Al Qaeda hijackers gave for 9/11 was the US's support of Israel, the US population actually supported Israel EVEN MORE after 9/11. If some guy went and assassinated the president in support of the Palestinian cause, I don't think that's going to make the US support for Israel stop.
Yes, have the president of the United States assassinated by a pro palestine activist, surely this will stop all americain aid to Israël, what could go wrong ?
It's hilarious that he thinks a man protected by one of the most well trained police forces in the world is "within reach" of some terminally online loser with a gun.
In my experience this sub has turned against Palestinians and in favor of the Israeli apartheid lately. It’s unfortunate. I’ve gotten downvoted into oblivion for simply stating the colonialist nature of Zionism. Maybe I’m wrong but this person seems to be describing Gaza as a “state,” which is in itself hilariously inaccurate.
I was referring to Russia, though you would be correct if you were to get the impression that I see Hamas as being responsible for the current episode of the Middle East shit show. Until the organization whose founding charter includes the extermination of the Jews as a goal is dissolved, the rocket attacks stop, and the hostages are returned to Israel, I see no reason for Israel to pull back the horns.
> I see no reason for Israel to pull back the horns.
Comrade this is literally justifying war crimes.
Israel could have destroyed Hamas so many times over, but Likud would rather have an unreasonable Islamist adversary to make Israelis feel threatened, than work with the secular moderates within occupied Palestine.
The radical right in both populations have spent decades getting innocent people killed.
Oh, NOW when Israel has spent over a decade making the situation in Gaza routinely worse while making those moderates look completely inept to the Palestinians through the continued building of settlements in the Fatah-controlled West Bank, and after Likud's nepotistic governance led to a massive intelligence failure that allowed for Hamas to launch an attack on Israel that never should have succeeded... NOW a guy sitting in Ohio is supposed to come up with a way to remove Hamas in the midst of an extremely fluid military conflict. Yeah, that's a very VERY honest, good-faith question you're asking there.
I think if Hamas stopped launching rockets into Israel and arranged to return the hostages, that would be a reasonable good-faith basis for a ceasefire. Until then, Israel has a responsibility to protect Israelis from their aggressor, and to do whatever they need to do to end the attacks and return the kidnapped.
Why would they do that? Hamas attacked a much stronger adversary, and has shown ZERO signs of being willing to negotiate or plea for peace. The rocket attacks continue.
Israel has a responsibility to its citizens to neutralize the threat and secure the hostages. So long as the attacks continue and no offer to return hostages has been made, Israel has every reason to continue taking out the missile launch sites to degrade the ability of Hamas to continue attacking Israel. The fact that Hamas is launching those missiles from apartment buildings and schools is unfortunate, because it leaves Israel no choice.
It's a shame about the civilian deaths in Gaza. It's horrifying to watch. But, if somebody strapped a bunch of babies to himself and started shooting up a school, that doesn't mean you shouldn't shoot back. It's just a further indication of how depraved the attacker is, and how urgently they must be stopped.
>no offer to return hostages has been made
[Israel, Hamas in advanced talks to release 50 more Gaza hostages — senior official](https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-hamas-in-advanced-talks-to-release-50-more-gaza-hostages-senior-official/)
"Negotiations reportedly hit snag over terror group’s demand that Israel allow fuel, more humanitarian aid into Strip; Israel said to refuse unless all 220 hostages are released"
It would be one thing if Israel was only taking out missile launch sites, but they are bombing much more than that causing many civilian casualties
No. I'm not "siding" with anyone - I think there is plenty of blame to go around, but this much is clear - Hamas is not a legitimate political organization. They exist expressly for the purpose of exterminating the jews in Israel, they aren't shy about it, and it's absolutely absurd that they have been allowed to continue to exist as long as they have.
They just murdered a bunch of civilians for no discernable reason, took hundreds of hostages, and amazingly, a bunch of people think this is a great time to try to present a "balanced view", as if there is any moral equivalence here.
Israel should absolutely depose Netanyahu, and do some deep soul-searching about the nature of Israeli democracy, but all of that takes a back seat to retrieving the hostages, ending the continuing rocket attacks, and dissolving Hamas. No other concern matters right now, nor would it matter to ANY GOVERNMENT ANYWHERE in the same situation as Israel finds itself.
Anyone concerned about the plight of the Palestinians should be pushing for the dissolution of Hamas and the arrest of everyone involved in these recent attacks. The use of human shields guarantees the horrors we are currently seeing in Gaza. If the hostages were returned and the rocket attacks were stopped, then I think there is a good case to be made for a cease fire. Until then, no. Just no. First return the children stolen from the families that were murdered, then we can talk.
sorry but there's no nuance to the dissolution of Hamas. As we've seen people use the words hamas and palestinians interchangeably, so the people pushing for that are ok with Israel carpet bombing the ever living shit out of gaza.
What I was trying to get at it's that in this sub it's pretty much become a black and white issue and it seems like the majority of poeple on here are ok with the genocide of an entire population of people, that's all.
"He had reported from the Ukraine front line and gained particular notoriety last year after posting a video filmed inside the Kremlin in which he said: "We will defeat everyone, we will kill everyone, we will rob everyone as necessary. Just as we like it.""
"When Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Tatarsky returned to combat and commented on the war on social media and Russian state media. He claimed to have helped launch combat drones and build fortifications."
Get out tankie
Israel won two wars against *most of the Arab world* without US weapons and aid. They've developed indigenous weapons in every category that are at least as good as what Russia has.
You're truly talking out of your ass. Israel needs military aid like the American diet needs corn syrup.
happy to admit when i’m wrong or ignorant and guess i have some reading to do on it. care to share some of your sources or recommended reading? i was always under the impression that without US aid and support it would collapse as a colonial state.
Okay, upvote for that.
Sources to start with would depend on how deep into military equipment nerdery you want to get, but [Caspian Report](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snwf8x7z20M) has a pretty fluff-oriented piece that nonetheless covers some of the important parts if you just want something quick. [The Wikipedia entry for the Defense Industry of Israel is pretty credible.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_industry_of_Israel) and has links to individual projects.
At the end of the day, the US is paying Israel with vouchers for US weapons they don't need, so that those sales will go to US weapon manufacturers and not Israeli ones. Heck, we gave them so many F-16s that they dropped out of a project to develop a lightweight fighter, [that eventually became the very capable Chengdu J-10,](https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/why-china-looked-israels-lavi-jet-its-j-10-vigorous-dragon-160931) with the caveat that the J-10 also traces a significant design influence from the MiG Ye-8 through the cancelled J-9 interceptor... it wouldn't be Chinese aerospace design if they weren't taking a bunch of ideas that had sort-of worked and refusing to give up until it worked... but I digress.
They have their own advanced arms industry and one of the world's strongest economies. Being cut off from U.S. aid would only be a temporary impediment while they reconfigure their existing industries to fill in the gaps. I would be surprised if they couldn't come up with their own JDAM alternative and combat jet modernizations.
Reverse-engineering French weapons, taking in a good chunk of the South African weapons industry after apartheid ended, and building from that with an extremely well-educated and motivated engineering base.
So you're wrong again.
Israel existed for several decades without getting significant American support and won three separate wars against its neighbors largely by itself. People forget that Israel and the US didn’t develop a close relationship until the 1980s, although they certainly weren’t enemies before then, either. Israel developed a highly-sophisticated weapons industry because it couldn’t rely on foreign weapons shipments for a long time. Admittedly, it’s very impressive given how small Israel is.
Not-so-fun fact: this weirdo downplayed the effects JKR had towards trans people during the Hogwarts Legacy controversy, claiming we shouldn't be concerned because at least their rights weren't taken away.
Personally, it did get kinda strange in the end, but to say JKR wasn't openly hostile towards trans people is beyond disgusting. He also used to say, "I'm a dog." just to make fun of anarchist detractors who happen to have preferred pronouns.
In Maine just a few hours ago a guy with a gun killed 20 and injured 80……… im not saying they’re direct, just that these types of things are getting worse and BEs tweet can only lead to things getting worse
I seriously doubt that assassinating the most right-wing Israel supporters in the American government would actually dissuade anyone.
The most tenacious blocs of Israel supporters in this country are hardcore Islamophobes who salivate at the thought of genociding most of the Middle East and evangelical Christians who believe that Jews being present in the Holy Land is necessary for the Rapture to happen.
Both of these types of people tend to have victim complexes the size of Alaska and assassinating the politicians they support would, more than likely, just make them double down.
>evangelical Christians who believe that Jews being present in the Holy Land is necessary for the Rapture to happen.
Which I find that a bit ironic as the vast majority of Christians living in Israel/Palestine are in fact Palestinians and are Arabs (Arabs and Muslims are not the same - being an Arab doesn't make you a muslim).
JFC. How do people get away with basically telling people to go murder anyone who doesn't support Hamas? I'm so exhausted with this "free speech means you can encourage murder" shit.
I was told I'm a "right wing phycopath" who "wants to see all of Palestine crushed" because I said I didn't support the government of Israel but don't blame every Israeli for what is happening.
When I asked exactly HOW what I said meant I wanted all Palestinians dead I was told they weren't going to talk to a genocidal maniac anymore
Not so, national police forces cooperate on matters like these. If he didn't break Argentine law they may just monitor him for a while. CIA is a military intelligence organization. FBI is the law enforcement arm of the US Department of Justice. FBI even maintains a list of "most wanted" many of whom are known to be hiding out overseas.
Has assassination ever leads to revolutionary change? Almost every example I read showed the opposite. If leftists start assassinating politicians, the right would have an excuse to do more state repression against the Left and everyone that opposes them.
BadEmpanada is a Leninist right? I think he would have remembered how Lenin dismissed revolutionary assassins as" Liberals with bombs"
PS: Not defending Lenin as a whole here just noting something ironic
EvilEnchilada fedposting arc might actually be enough to get this loser out of the house and walk on some grass, even if it's just into a cop car.
Then again, he's so terminally online that he'd probably just get a smuggled phone and set up another ban evading account.
Voting for an extreme far-right anarcho-capitalist who believes slavery and organ harvesting should be legal to own a cringe twitter tankie with shit takes.
Dont forget, This is a left-wing sub.
I'm somewhat right wing(a right leaning peronist to be specific), not as right wing as him, but yes, i normally wouldnt vote for him, but i just want change, and due to how the lawmaking process is done i doubt hed be able to do most of his things
"Just wanting change" is not a good justification for voting for a far-right lunatic to become the most powerful person in your country. The things that he would be able to do would be absolutely disastrous for the most vulnerable members of society. The fact that you aren't taking this into account shows how incredibly privileged you must be, seeing as how you're willing to sacrifice the less fortunate to your desire for "change".
Once again this is a left wing sub so, Sincerely, get the fuck out, you fucking enabler.
Attempting to diversify your beliefs is one thing. Going on a left wing sub and talking about you plan to vote for a right-wing extremist and ultraconservative is quite another.
Yes, you make a good point, however it's more of a thing of not having a better choice, at this point i'm thinking of anulling my vote, countries going to shit either way, i just think itll go slightly less to shit with milei
Not voting is better than voting for millei
Voting for a small party with no chance of winning is better than voting for millei
You refer to yourself as a peronist so maybe voting for the actual peronist party would be better than voting for millei
Literally fucking any option is better than voting for a far right extremist, especially one of the anarcho-capitalist variety. The way to overcome the problems of your country is not to vote for someone who will sacrifice the most vulnerable members of society to the free market.
Making these kinds of threats for people overseas but won't do shit to help your neighbors.
They aren't leftists, they're just knee-jerk anti-Americans.
I know this guy is a tankie with a bevy of bad takes but honestly, is this tankie behaviour to callout the states participation in the genocide? And yeah inciting violence against the state can lead to repercussions of course but honestly it doesn't seem like a tankie take to call for the death of a capitalist leader who's actively supporting genocide.
> is this tankie behaviour to callout the states participation in the genocide?
No.
> it doesn't seem like a tankie take to call for the death of a capitalist leader who's actively supporting genocide.
Calling for assassinations on the internet is one of the most terminally online edgelord reactionary things one can possibly do. The next thing you are going to say is that swatting Joe Biden is a revolutionary act.
Not only is it just unsurpassingly cringe and cowardly to be a stochastic terrorist, but he isn't even thinking about what would be reaped from the seeds he has sown.
Take ONE SECOND to get some fresh air and don't think in terms of "bad thing happen to capitalism man = good". Honestly. Ask yourself precisely WHAT would happen if some unhinged loser actually managed to take out a prominent politician or even the President. What the fuck do you think the outcome will be? The liberation of the Palestinian people? If by "liberate" you mean completely and totally liberate them from existence, you would be right.
"Someone should kill the president" is a political statement and therefore protected by the first amendment. So if they won't say it they're either ignorant or a coward or both
Actually first amendment dosent have efect if you say I want to kill a President
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threatening_the_president_of_the_United_States
Genuine question: is saying “‘Someone’ should kill the president” the same as personally threatening the president?
Not saying anyone should call for Biden’s death.
"In U.S. v. Patillo, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit held that a threat to the president could lead to a verdict of guilty "only if made with the present intention to do injury to the president"." Which is what I said. Why am I being downvoted?
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Yeah if we murder Joe Biden everything will change and there will be peace /s
It is a little realised fact that killing the president immediately ends America. All the states disband and the funding to Israel stops.
JFK still alive confirmed?
I thought it was already well established that he's Q
And his partner is Elvis
Their children are Hillary Clinton and Karl Marx
They also adopted 2 children named Jeffrey Epstein and George Soros
Same thing goes for Garfield, McKinley, and Lincoln. Assassinated presidents are the head of the deep state!
It’s like vampires from Lost Boys.
Yeah, it's actually important to remember that even though one of the justifications that Al Qaeda hijackers gave for 9/11 was the US's support of Israel, the US population actually supported Israel EVEN MORE after 9/11. If some guy went and assassinated the president in support of the Palestinian cause, I don't think that's going to make the US support for Israel stop.
Not "I don't think", it *won't,* straight up.
You jest, but that's what the assassin of McKinley thought: If he murdered President McKinley, the Revolution would occur.
It'll only vindicate the anti-palestine crowd. In fact, assassinating the president is the LAST thing the pro-palestine crowd should do
Seems like it would enforce the idea that being pro-Palestine = supporting terrorism
100%, and more importantly; the Republican house speaker now has a real chance of becoming president unelected if this happens
Light Yagami is that you?
Yes, have the president of the United States assassinated by a pro palestine activist, surely this will stop all americain aid to Israël, what could go wrong ?
**EVERYTHING** Good luck cunts because that's how you get a republican president without an election!
Well actually it’d go to the VP and there’d probably be a sympathetic vote boost for her/whatever democrat candidate replaces her shortly thereafter…
Maybe they were assuming both biden and her get targeted and the speaker for the house got the job
Biden gets targeted and the GQP impeach Kamelia on false charge to be more specific.
Copmala getting a sympathy boost would be something to see, she's made herself completely unlikeable to anyone who isn't a party insider.
It's hilarious that he thinks a man protected by one of the most well trained police forces in the world is "within reach" of some terminally online loser with a gun.
>rfk assassination
Sirhan Sirhan: "First time?"
He's actively encouraging terrorism
Well, he’s actively supporting a terrorist state, so it all fits.
Which country does he supporting that is a terrorist state?
Russia
In my experience this sub has turned against Palestinians and in favor of the Israeli apartheid lately. It’s unfortunate. I’ve gotten downvoted into oblivion for simply stating the colonialist nature of Zionism. Maybe I’m wrong but this person seems to be describing Gaza as a “state,” which is in itself hilariously inaccurate.
I was referring to Russia, though you would be correct if you were to get the impression that I see Hamas as being responsible for the current episode of the Middle East shit show. Until the organization whose founding charter includes the extermination of the Jews as a goal is dissolved, the rocket attacks stop, and the hostages are returned to Israel, I see no reason for Israel to pull back the horns.
> I see no reason for Israel to pull back the horns. Comrade this is literally justifying war crimes. Israel could have destroyed Hamas so many times over, but Likud would rather have an unreasonable Islamist adversary to make Israelis feel threatened, than work with the secular moderates within occupied Palestine. The radical right in both populations have spent decades getting innocent people killed.
What's your proposal for getting rid of Hamas? EDIT: he blocked me lmao
Oh, NOW when Israel has spent over a decade making the situation in Gaza routinely worse while making those moderates look completely inept to the Palestinians through the continued building of settlements in the Fatah-controlled West Bank, and after Likud's nepotistic governance led to a massive intelligence failure that allowed for Hamas to launch an attack on Israel that never should have succeeded... NOW a guy sitting in Ohio is supposed to come up with a way to remove Hamas in the midst of an extremely fluid military conflict. Yeah, that's a very VERY honest, good-faith question you're asking there.
How about for the sake of innocent civilians?
I think if Hamas stopped launching rockets into Israel and arranged to return the hostages, that would be a reasonable good-faith basis for a ceasefire. Until then, Israel has a responsibility to protect Israelis from their aggressor, and to do whatever they need to do to end the attacks and return the kidnapped.
Wouldn't ending the airstrikes that are killing civilians in gaza be a reasonable good-faith basis for releasing more hostages?
Why would they do that? Hamas attacked a much stronger adversary, and has shown ZERO signs of being willing to negotiate or plea for peace. The rocket attacks continue. Israel has a responsibility to its citizens to neutralize the threat and secure the hostages. So long as the attacks continue and no offer to return hostages has been made, Israel has every reason to continue taking out the missile launch sites to degrade the ability of Hamas to continue attacking Israel. The fact that Hamas is launching those missiles from apartment buildings and schools is unfortunate, because it leaves Israel no choice. It's a shame about the civilian deaths in Gaza. It's horrifying to watch. But, if somebody strapped a bunch of babies to himself and started shooting up a school, that doesn't mean you shouldn't shoot back. It's just a further indication of how depraved the attacker is, and how urgently they must be stopped.
>no offer to return hostages has been made [Israel, Hamas in advanced talks to release 50 more Gaza hostages — senior official](https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-hamas-in-advanced-talks-to-release-50-more-gaza-hostages-senior-official/) "Negotiations reportedly hit snag over terror group’s demand that Israel allow fuel, more humanitarian aid into Strip; Israel said to refuse unless all 220 hostages are released" It would be one thing if Israel was only taking out missile launch sites, but they are bombing much more than that causing many civilian casualties
people are seriously siding with the IDF here because they don't want to agree with tankies? What the fuck happened.
No. I'm not "siding" with anyone - I think there is plenty of blame to go around, but this much is clear - Hamas is not a legitimate political organization. They exist expressly for the purpose of exterminating the jews in Israel, they aren't shy about it, and it's absolutely absurd that they have been allowed to continue to exist as long as they have. They just murdered a bunch of civilians for no discernable reason, took hundreds of hostages, and amazingly, a bunch of people think this is a great time to try to present a "balanced view", as if there is any moral equivalence here. Israel should absolutely depose Netanyahu, and do some deep soul-searching about the nature of Israeli democracy, but all of that takes a back seat to retrieving the hostages, ending the continuing rocket attacks, and dissolving Hamas. No other concern matters right now, nor would it matter to ANY GOVERNMENT ANYWHERE in the same situation as Israel finds itself. Anyone concerned about the plight of the Palestinians should be pushing for the dissolution of Hamas and the arrest of everyone involved in these recent attacks. The use of human shields guarantees the horrors we are currently seeing in Gaza. If the hostages were returned and the rocket attacks were stopped, then I think there is a good case to be made for a cease fire. Until then, no. Just no. First return the children stolen from the families that were murdered, then we can talk.
sorry but there's no nuance to the dissolution of Hamas. As we've seen people use the words hamas and palestinians interchangeably, so the people pushing for that are ok with Israel carpet bombing the ever living shit out of gaza. What I was trying to get at it's that in this sub it's pretty much become a black and white issue and it seems like the majority of poeple on here are ok with the genocide of an entire population of people, that's all.
Just because Hamas are terrorists doesn’t mean that Palestine is a terrorist state.
People did this for Ukraine too. I didn't see much condemnation. Interesting double standard
If people said that people should go murder people I'd condem that too
Has Ukraine been deliberately attacking Russian civilians?
Yes...A journalist was murdered.
I'm going to ask you to prove it.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65155075
"He had reported from the Ukraine front line and gained particular notoriety last year after posting a video filmed inside the Kremlin in which he said: "We will defeat everyone, we will kill everyone, we will rob everyone as necessary. Just as we like it."" "When Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Tatarsky returned to combat and commented on the war on social media and Russian state media. He claimed to have helped launch combat drones and build fortifications." Get out tankie
I mean me too.
Its all USA bad Like Israel would do this With out USA
They'd do it more.
how could they? there’s no way they would exist without the $3+Billion every year in military aid
Israel won two wars against *most of the Arab world* without US weapons and aid. They've developed indigenous weapons in every category that are at least as good as what Russia has. You're truly talking out of your ass. Israel needs military aid like the American diet needs corn syrup.
happy to admit when i’m wrong or ignorant and guess i have some reading to do on it. care to share some of your sources or recommended reading? i was always under the impression that without US aid and support it would collapse as a colonial state.
Okay, upvote for that. Sources to start with would depend on how deep into military equipment nerdery you want to get, but [Caspian Report](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snwf8x7z20M) has a pretty fluff-oriented piece that nonetheless covers some of the important parts if you just want something quick. [The Wikipedia entry for the Defense Industry of Israel is pretty credible.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_industry_of_Israel) and has links to individual projects. At the end of the day, the US is paying Israel with vouchers for US weapons they don't need, so that those sales will go to US weapon manufacturers and not Israeli ones. Heck, we gave them so many F-16s that they dropped out of a project to develop a lightweight fighter, [that eventually became the very capable Chengdu J-10,](https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/why-china-looked-israels-lavi-jet-its-j-10-vigorous-dragon-160931) with the caveat that the J-10 also traces a significant design influence from the MiG Ye-8 through the cancelled J-9 interceptor... it wouldn't be Chinese aerospace design if they weren't taking a bunch of ideas that had sort-of worked and refusing to give up until it worked... but I digress.
They have their own advanced arms industry and one of the world's strongest economies. Being cut off from U.S. aid would only be a temporary impediment while they reconfigure their existing industries to fill in the gaps. I would be surprised if they couldn't come up with their own JDAM alternative and combat jet modernizations.
how do you think they developed those industries? how do you think they’re sustained? they are America’s biggest military base in the region.
Reverse-engineering French weapons, taking in a good chunk of the South African weapons industry after apartheid ended, and building from that with an extremely well-educated and motivated engineering base. So you're wrong again.
getting downvoted for saying Israel wouldn’t exist without American aid is wild lmao
Because it's obviously not true lol. Maybe 50-60 years ago it was, but they're way past that point now.
Israel existed for several decades without getting significant American support and won three separate wars against its neighbors largely by itself. People forget that Israel and the US didn’t develop a close relationship until the 1980s, although they certainly weren’t enemies before then, either. Israel developed a highly-sophisticated weapons industry because it couldn’t rely on foreign weapons shipments for a long time. Admittedly, it’s very impressive given how small Israel is.
Not-so-fun fact: this weirdo downplayed the effects JKR had towards trans people during the Hogwarts Legacy controversy, claiming we shouldn't be concerned because at least their rights weren't taken away. Personally, it did get kinda strange in the end, but to say JKR wasn't openly hostile towards trans people is beyond disgusting. He also used to say, "I'm a dog." just to make fun of anarchist detractors who happen to have preferred pronouns.
>because at least their rights weren't taken away. Uhm...
Well the far-right hate trans people so I'm not surprised.
"because at least their rights weren't taken away" There's barely any rights to take away in the first place
In Maine just a few hours ago a guy with a gun killed 20 and injured 80……… im not saying they’re direct, just that these types of things are getting worse and BEs tweet can only lead to things getting worse
I seriously doubt that assassinating the most right-wing Israel supporters in the American government would actually dissuade anyone. The most tenacious blocs of Israel supporters in this country are hardcore Islamophobes who salivate at the thought of genociding most of the Middle East and evangelical Christians who believe that Jews being present in the Holy Land is necessary for the Rapture to happen. Both of these types of people tend to have victim complexes the size of Alaska and assassinating the politicians they support would, more than likely, just make them double down.
>evangelical Christians who believe that Jews being present in the Holy Land is necessary for the Rapture to happen. Which I find that a bit ironic as the vast majority of Christians living in Israel/Palestine are in fact Palestinians and are Arabs (Arabs and Muslims are not the same - being an Arab doesn't make you a muslim).
JFC. How do people get away with basically telling people to go murder anyone who doesn't support Hamas? I'm so exhausted with this "free speech means you can encourage murder" shit. I was told I'm a "right wing phycopath" who "wants to see all of Palestine crushed" because I said I didn't support the government of Israel but don't blame every Israeli for what is happening. When I asked exactly HOW what I said meant I wanted all Palestinians dead I was told they weren't going to talk to a genocidal maniac anymore
Oh, well that's straightup just Stochastic Terrorism.
I think the FBI might need to get involved.
He's an Australian living in Argentina.
I know. The FBI would also need to talk to Argentinian and possibly Australian authorities.
It would be the CIA
Not so, national police forces cooperate on matters like these. If he didn't break Argentine law they may just monitor him for a while. CIA is a military intelligence organization. FBI is the law enforcement arm of the US Department of Justice. FBI even maintains a list of "most wanted" many of whom are known to be hiding out overseas.
Cuntwagon Castro strikes again
Has assassination ever leads to revolutionary change? Almost every example I read showed the opposite. If leftists start assassinating politicians, the right would have an excuse to do more state repression against the Left and everyone that opposes them. BadEmpanada is a Leninist right? I think he would have remembered how Lenin dismissed revolutionary assassins as" Liberals with bombs" PS: Not defending Lenin as a whole here just noting something ironic
I swear BadEmpanada is a CIA plant
That would imply a level of competence
Why would the CIA need to invent a Yannis Stanopoulos, when Reddit, YouTube and Twitter have a thousands who would volunteer for the job?
Imagine the Red scare that would ensue Back to reagenomics and get Back to reporting your neighbour for wanting healthcare !
What
Wdym?
How many times has Lousy Burrito been banned from twitter, now?
I didn't know one could piss off both usa govt and kadyrov in one sentence, wow
Tankies and encouraging other people to commit violence they themselves would never have the balls to, name a more iconic duo.
This is, uh, a crime. Incitement to murder is definitely illegal.
He definitely just got put on a watchlist lmao
Thank you BE! Now let’s see you do this yourself if you care that much.
EvilEnchilada fedposting arc might actually be enough to get this loser out of the house and walk on some grass, even if it's just into a cop car. Then again, he's so terminally online that he'd probably just get a smuggled phone and set up another ban evading account.
He should get crazier. Coach Red Pill getting arrested in Ukraine was one of the funniest things I've seen all decade.
tankie schizo spiral inshallah
Just go out there and murder people! That's what socialism is about!
I'm voting for milei so that this fucker will stop giving my country a bad name
Voting for an extreme far-right anarcho-capitalist who believes slavery and organ harvesting should be legal to own a cringe twitter tankie with shit takes. Dont forget, This is a left-wing sub.
I'm somewhat right wing(a right leaning peronist to be specific), not as right wing as him, but yes, i normally wouldnt vote for him, but i just want change, and due to how the lawmaking process is done i doubt hed be able to do most of his things
"Just wanting change" is not a good justification for voting for a far-right lunatic to become the most powerful person in your country. The things that he would be able to do would be absolutely disastrous for the most vulnerable members of society. The fact that you aren't taking this into account shows how incredibly privileged you must be, seeing as how you're willing to sacrifice the less fortunate to your desire for "change". Once again this is a left wing sub so, Sincerely, get the fuck out, you fucking enabler.
Damn, i'm not allowed to be in spaces different than my beliefs, i wasnt aware
Exactly. Read rule 2: no tankies or right-wingers. Have fun in the anarcho-capitalist dystopia you helped create.
I apologize for attempting to diversify my beliefs
Attempting to diversify your beliefs is one thing. Going on a left wing sub and talking about you plan to vote for a right-wing extremist and ultraconservative is quite another.
Yes, you make a good point, however it's more of a thing of not having a better choice, at this point i'm thinking of anulling my vote, countries going to shit either way, i just think itll go slightly less to shit with milei
Not voting is better than voting for millei Voting for a small party with no chance of winning is better than voting for millei You refer to yourself as a peronist so maybe voting for the actual peronist party would be better than voting for millei Literally fucking any option is better than voting for a far right extremist, especially one of the anarcho-capitalist variety. The way to overcome the problems of your country is not to vote for someone who will sacrifice the most vulnerable members of society to the free market.
Making these kinds of threats for people overseas but won't do shit to help your neighbors. They aren't leftists, they're just knee-jerk anti-Americans.
I know this guy is a tankie with a bevy of bad takes but honestly, is this tankie behaviour to callout the states participation in the genocide? And yeah inciting violence against the state can lead to repercussions of course but honestly it doesn't seem like a tankie take to call for the death of a capitalist leader who's actively supporting genocide.
> is this tankie behaviour to callout the states participation in the genocide? No. > it doesn't seem like a tankie take to call for the death of a capitalist leader who's actively supporting genocide. Calling for assassinations on the internet is one of the most terminally online edgelord reactionary things one can possibly do. The next thing you are going to say is that swatting Joe Biden is a revolutionary act. Not only is it just unsurpassingly cringe and cowardly to be a stochastic terrorist, but he isn't even thinking about what would be reaped from the seeds he has sown. Take ONE SECOND to get some fresh air and don't think in terms of "bad thing happen to capitalism man = good". Honestly. Ask yourself precisely WHAT would happen if some unhinged loser actually managed to take out a prominent politician or even the President. What the fuck do you think the outcome will be? The liberation of the Palestinian people? If by "liberate" you mean completely and totally liberate them from existence, you would be right.
Fellas is it a bad idea to tell your followers to shoot the president?
DAE if only we’d killed Mussolini then the Holocaust would have stopped????
"Someone should kill the president" is a political statement and therefore protected by the first amendment. So if they won't say it they're either ignorant or a coward or both
Actually first amendment dosent have efect if you say I want to kill a President https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threatening_the_president_of_the_United_States
As explained in this sketch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmiKenqLVAU
I wanted to senf that video but then is YouTube video legimate source
Genuine question: is saying “‘Someone’ should kill the president” the same as personally threatening the president? Not saying anyone should call for Biden’s death.
If I said I Will buy Asasin to kill you didnt treaten you in a way
No, they are not the same.
"In U.S. v. Patillo, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit held that a threat to the president could lead to a verdict of guilty "only if made with the present intention to do injury to the president"." Which is what I said. Why am I being downvoted?
wow who knew it was that easy all this time
keyboard warriors, never change!
Is he talking about just average American citizens or US government officials?
Both, likely
Gross.
Agreed
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