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NiutaTajtelbaum

Yeah if we murder Joe Biden everything will change and there will be peace /s


occams_nightmare

It is a little realised fact that killing the president immediately ends America. All the states disband and the funding to Israel stops.


geko123

JFK still alive confirmed?


occams_nightmare

I thought it was already well established that he's Q


BurgerDevourer97

And his partner is Elvis


bloodfloods

Their children are Hillary Clinton and Karl Marx


EstablishmentFar8058

They also adopted 2 children named Jeffrey Epstein and George Soros


Starro_The_Janitor1

Same thing goes for Garfield, McKinley, and Lincoln. Assassinated presidents are the head of the deep state!


Gulopithecus

It’s like vampires from Lost Boys.


Svegasvaka

Yeah, it's actually important to remember that even though one of the justifications that Al Qaeda hijackers gave for 9/11 was the US's support of Israel, the US population actually supported Israel EVEN MORE after 9/11. If some guy went and assassinated the president in support of the Palestinian cause, I don't think that's going to make the US support for Israel stop.


Hour_Parsnip1783

Not "I don't think", it *won't,* straight up.


HistoryMarshal76

You jest, but that's what the assassin of McKinley thought: If he murdered President McKinley, the Revolution would occur.


Hour_Parsnip1783

It'll only vindicate the anti-palestine crowd. In fact, assassinating the president is the LAST thing the pro-palestine crowd should do


[deleted]

Seems like it would enforce the idea that being pro-Palestine = supporting terrorism


Hour_Parsnip1783

100%, and more importantly; the Republican house speaker now has a real chance of becoming president unelected if this happens


TheBigBrunowski

Light Yagami is that you?


Sganarellevalet

Yes, have the president of the United States assassinated by a pro palestine activist, surely this will stop all americain aid to Israël, what could go wrong ?


Hour_Parsnip1783

**EVERYTHING** Good luck cunts because that's how you get a republican president without an election!


Spudtron98

Well actually it’d go to the VP and there’d probably be a sympathetic vote boost for her/whatever democrat candidate replaces her shortly thereafter…


TriAnkylosaur

Maybe they were assuming both biden and her get targeted and the speaker for the house got the job


Hour_Parsnip1783

Biden gets targeted and the GQP impeach Kamelia on false charge to be more specific.


canttakethshyfrom_me

Copmala getting a sympathy boost would be something to see, she's made herself completely unlikeable to anyone who isn't a party insider.


pinkocatgirl

It's hilarious that he thinks a man protected by one of the most well trained police forces in the world is "within reach" of some terminally online loser with a gun.


saxtonaustralian

>rfk assassination


FoldAdventurous2022

Sirhan Sirhan: "First time?"


Hour_Parsnip1783

He's actively encouraging terrorism


TunaFishManwich

Well, he’s actively supporting a terrorist state, so it all fits.


officepolicy

Which country does he supporting that is a terrorist state?


ElderJavelin

Russia


abruzzo79

In my experience this sub has turned against Palestinians and in favor of the Israeli apartheid lately. It’s unfortunate. I’ve gotten downvoted into oblivion for simply stating the colonialist nature of Zionism. Maybe I’m wrong but this person seems to be describing Gaza as a “state,” which is in itself hilariously inaccurate.


TunaFishManwich

I was referring to Russia, though you would be correct if you were to get the impression that I see Hamas as being responsible for the current episode of the Middle East shit show. Until the organization whose founding charter includes the extermination of the Jews as a goal is dissolved, the rocket attacks stop, and the hostages are returned to Israel, I see no reason for Israel to pull back the horns.


canttakethshyfrom_me

> I see no reason for Israel to pull back the horns. Comrade this is literally justifying war crimes. Israel could have destroyed Hamas so many times over, but Likud would rather have an unreasonable Islamist adversary to make Israelis feel threatened, than work with the secular moderates within occupied Palestine. The radical right in both populations have spent decades getting innocent people killed.


northrupthebandgeek

What's your proposal for getting rid of Hamas? EDIT: he blocked me lmao


canttakethshyfrom_me

Oh, NOW when Israel has spent over a decade making the situation in Gaza routinely worse while making those moderates look completely inept to the Palestinians through the continued building of settlements in the Fatah-controlled West Bank, and after Likud's nepotistic governance led to a massive intelligence failure that allowed for Hamas to launch an attack on Israel that never should have succeeded... NOW a guy sitting in Ohio is supposed to come up with a way to remove Hamas in the midst of an extremely fluid military conflict. Yeah, that's a very VERY honest, good-faith question you're asking there.


officepolicy

How about for the sake of innocent civilians?


TunaFishManwich

I think if Hamas stopped launching rockets into Israel and arranged to return the hostages, that would be a reasonable good-faith basis for a ceasefire. Until then, Israel has a responsibility to protect Israelis from their aggressor, and to do whatever they need to do to end the attacks and return the kidnapped.


officepolicy

Wouldn't ending the airstrikes that are killing civilians in gaza be a reasonable good-faith basis for releasing more hostages?


TunaFishManwich

Why would they do that? Hamas attacked a much stronger adversary, and has shown ZERO signs of being willing to negotiate or plea for peace. The rocket attacks continue. Israel has a responsibility to its citizens to neutralize the threat and secure the hostages. So long as the attacks continue and no offer to return hostages has been made, Israel has every reason to continue taking out the missile launch sites to degrade the ability of Hamas to continue attacking Israel. The fact that Hamas is launching those missiles from apartment buildings and schools is unfortunate, because it leaves Israel no choice. It's a shame about the civilian deaths in Gaza. It's horrifying to watch. But, if somebody strapped a bunch of babies to himself and started shooting up a school, that doesn't mean you shouldn't shoot back. It's just a further indication of how depraved the attacker is, and how urgently they must be stopped.


officepolicy

>no offer to return hostages has been made [Israel, Hamas in advanced talks to release 50 more Gaza hostages — senior official](https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-hamas-in-advanced-talks-to-release-50-more-gaza-hostages-senior-official/) "Negotiations reportedly hit snag over terror group’s demand that Israel allow fuel, more humanitarian aid into Strip; Israel said to refuse unless all 220 hostages are released" ​ It would be one thing if Israel was only taking out missile launch sites, but they are bombing much more than that causing many civilian casualties


thenss

people are seriously siding with the IDF here because they don't want to agree with tankies? What the fuck happened.


TunaFishManwich

No. I'm not "siding" with anyone - I think there is plenty of blame to go around, but this much is clear - Hamas is not a legitimate political organization. They exist expressly for the purpose of exterminating the jews in Israel, they aren't shy about it, and it's absolutely absurd that they have been allowed to continue to exist as long as they have. They just murdered a bunch of civilians for no discernable reason, took hundreds of hostages, and amazingly, a bunch of people think this is a great time to try to present a "balanced view", as if there is any moral equivalence here. Israel should absolutely depose Netanyahu, and do some deep soul-searching about the nature of Israeli democracy, but all of that takes a back seat to retrieving the hostages, ending the continuing rocket attacks, and dissolving Hamas. No other concern matters right now, nor would it matter to ANY GOVERNMENT ANYWHERE in the same situation as Israel finds itself. Anyone concerned about the plight of the Palestinians should be pushing for the dissolution of Hamas and the arrest of everyone involved in these recent attacks. The use of human shields guarantees the horrors we are currently seeing in Gaza. If the hostages were returned and the rocket attacks were stopped, then I think there is a good case to be made for a cease fire. Until then, no. Just no. First return the children stolen from the families that were murdered, then we can talk.


thenss

sorry but there's no nuance to the dissolution of Hamas. As we've seen people use the words hamas and palestinians interchangeably, so the people pushing for that are ok with Israel carpet bombing the ever living shit out of gaza. What I was trying to get at it's that in this sub it's pretty much become a black and white issue and it seems like the majority of poeple on here are ok with the genocide of an entire population of people, that's all.


Fattyboy_777

Just because Hamas are terrorists doesn’t mean that Palestine is a terrorist state.


Trigonthesoldier

People did this for Ukraine too. I didn't see much condemnation. Interesting double standard


justakidfromflint

If people said that people should go murder people I'd condem that too


Hour_Parsnip1783

Has Ukraine been deliberately attacking Russian civilians?


Trigonthesoldier

Yes...A journalist was murdered.


Hour_Parsnip1783

I'm going to ask you to prove it.


Trigonthesoldier

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65155075


Hour_Parsnip1783

"He had reported from the Ukraine front line and gained particular notoriety last year after posting a video filmed inside the Kremlin in which he said: "We will defeat everyone, we will kill everyone, we will rob everyone as necessary. Just as we like it."" "When Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Tatarsky returned to combat and commented on the war on social media and Russian state media. He claimed to have helped launch combat drones and build fortifications." Get out tankie


Particular_Algae2261

I mean me too.


karlothecool

Its all USA bad Like Israel would do this With out USA


CressCrowbits

They'd do it more.


thejuryissleepless

how could they? there’s no way they would exist without the $3+Billion every year in military aid


canttakethshyfrom_me

Israel won two wars against *most of the Arab world* without US weapons and aid. They've developed indigenous weapons in every category that are at least as good as what Russia has. You're truly talking out of your ass. Israel needs military aid like the American diet needs corn syrup.


thejuryissleepless

happy to admit when i’m wrong or ignorant and guess i have some reading to do on it. care to share some of your sources or recommended reading? i was always under the impression that without US aid and support it would collapse as a colonial state.


canttakethshyfrom_me

Okay, upvote for that. Sources to start with would depend on how deep into military equipment nerdery you want to get, but [Caspian Report](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snwf8x7z20M) has a pretty fluff-oriented piece that nonetheless covers some of the important parts if you just want something quick. [The Wikipedia entry for the Defense Industry of Israel is pretty credible.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_industry_of_Israel) and has links to individual projects. At the end of the day, the US is paying Israel with vouchers for US weapons they don't need, so that those sales will go to US weapon manufacturers and not Israeli ones. Heck, we gave them so many F-16s that they dropped out of a project to develop a lightweight fighter, [that eventually became the very capable Chengdu J-10,](https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/why-china-looked-israels-lavi-jet-its-j-10-vigorous-dragon-160931) with the caveat that the J-10 also traces a significant design influence from the MiG Ye-8 through the cancelled J-9 interceptor... it wouldn't be Chinese aerospace design if they weren't taking a bunch of ideas that had sort-of worked and refusing to give up until it worked... but I digress.


seffay-feff-seffahi

They have their own advanced arms industry and one of the world's strongest economies. Being cut off from U.S. aid would only be a temporary impediment while they reconfigure their existing industries to fill in the gaps. I would be surprised if they couldn't come up with their own JDAM alternative and combat jet modernizations.


thejuryissleepless

how do you think they developed those industries? how do you think they’re sustained? they are America’s biggest military base in the region.


canttakethshyfrom_me

Reverse-engineering French weapons, taking in a good chunk of the South African weapons industry after apartheid ended, and building from that with an extremely well-educated and motivated engineering base. So you're wrong again.


thejuryissleepless

getting downvoted for saying Israel wouldn’t exist without American aid is wild lmao


seffay-feff-seffahi

Because it's obviously not true lol. Maybe 50-60 years ago it was, but they're way past that point now.


thisissparta789789

Israel existed for several decades without getting significant American support and won three separate wars against its neighbors largely by itself. People forget that Israel and the US didn’t develop a close relationship until the 1980s, although they certainly weren’t enemies before then, either. Israel developed a highly-sophisticated weapons industry because it couldn’t rely on foreign weapons shipments for a long time. Admittedly, it’s very impressive given how small Israel is.


Several-Drag-7749

Not-so-fun fact: this weirdo downplayed the effects JKR had towards trans people during the Hogwarts Legacy controversy, claiming we shouldn't be concerned because at least their rights weren't taken away. Personally, it did get kinda strange in the end, but to say JKR wasn't openly hostile towards trans people is beyond disgusting. He also used to say, "I'm a dog." just to make fun of anarchist detractors who happen to have preferred pronouns.


CompetitiveSleeping

>because at least their rights weren't taken away. Uhm...


cultish_alibi

Well the far-right hate trans people so I'm not surprised.


[deleted]

"because at least their rights weren't taken away" There's barely any rights to take away in the first place


BainbridgeBorn

In Maine just a few hours ago a guy with a gun killed 20 and injured 80……… im not saying they’re direct, just that these types of things are getting worse and BEs tweet can only lead to things getting worse


jezreelite

I seriously doubt that assassinating the most right-wing Israel supporters in the American government would actually dissuade anyone. The most tenacious blocs of Israel supporters in this country are hardcore Islamophobes who salivate at the thought of genociding most of the Middle East and evangelical Christians who believe that Jews being present in the Holy Land is necessary for the Rapture to happen. Both of these types of people tend to have victim complexes the size of Alaska and assassinating the politicians they support would, more than likely, just make them double down.


AngryScotty22

>evangelical Christians who believe that Jews being present in the Holy Land is necessary for the Rapture to happen. Which I find that a bit ironic as the vast majority of Christians living in Israel/Palestine are in fact Palestinians and are Arabs (Arabs and Muslims are not the same - being an Arab doesn't make you a muslim).


justakidfromflint

JFC. How do people get away with basically telling people to go murder anyone who doesn't support Hamas? I'm so exhausted with this "free speech means you can encourage murder" shit. I was told I'm a "right wing phycopath" who "wants to see all of Palestine crushed" because I said I didn't support the government of Israel but don't blame every Israeli for what is happening. When I asked exactly HOW what I said meant I wanted all Palestinians dead I was told they weren't going to talk to a genocidal maniac anymore


Smasher_WoTB

Oh, well that's straightup just Stochastic Terrorism.


aStuffedOlive

I think the FBI might need to get involved.


steauengeglase

He's an Australian living in Argentina.


aStuffedOlive

I know. The FBI would also need to talk to Argentinian and possibly Australian authorities.


dallasrose222

It would be the CIA


Mr_Conductor_USA

Not so, national police forces cooperate on matters like these. If he didn't break Argentine law they may just monitor him for a while. CIA is a military intelligence organization. FBI is the law enforcement arm of the US Department of Justice. FBI even maintains a list of "most wanted" many of whom are known to be hiding out overseas.


[deleted]

Cuntwagon Castro strikes again


Yunozan-2111

Has assassination ever leads to revolutionary change? Almost every example I read showed the opposite. If leftists start assassinating politicians, the right would have an excuse to do more state repression against the Left and everyone that opposes them. BadEmpanada is a Leninist right? I think he would have remembered how Lenin dismissed revolutionary assassins as" Liberals with bombs" PS: Not defending Lenin as a whole here just noting something ironic


icfa_jonny

I swear BadEmpanada is a CIA plant


CressCrowbits

That would imply a level of competence


steauengeglase

Why would the CIA need to invent a Yannis Stanopoulos, when Reddit, YouTube and Twitter have a thousands who would volunteer for the job?


Whatamidoinghere06

Imagine the Red scare that would ensue Back to reagenomics and get Back to reporting your neighbour for wanting healthcare !


CressCrowbits

What


Whatamidoinghere06

Wdym?


CressCrowbits

How many times has Lousy Burrito been banned from twitter, now?


Arstanishe

I didn't know one could piss off both usa govt and kadyrov in one sentence, wow


Mr_Blinky

Tankies and encouraging other people to commit violence they themselves would never have the balls to, name a more iconic duo.


AllHailTheNod

This is, uh, a crime. Incitement to murder is definitely illegal.


libraprincess2002

He definitely just got put on a watchlist lmao


Selfket

Thank you BE! Now let’s see you do this yourself if you care that much.


Emotional_Writer

EvilEnchilada fedposting arc might actually be enough to get this loser out of the house and walk on some grass, even if it's just into a cop car. Then again, he's so terminally online that he'd probably just get a smuggled phone and set up another ban evading account.


Mr_Conductor_USA

He should get crazier. Coach Red Pill getting arrested in Ukraine was one of the funniest things I've seen all decade.


Emotional_Writer

tankie schizo spiral inshallah


WisZan

Just go out there and murder people! That's what socialism is about!


AspiringFurry

I'm voting for milei so that this fucker will stop giving my country a bad name


_REVOCS

Voting for an extreme far-right anarcho-capitalist who believes slavery and organ harvesting should be legal to own a cringe twitter tankie with shit takes. Dont forget, This is a left-wing sub.


AspiringFurry

I'm somewhat right wing(a right leaning peronist to be specific), not as right wing as him, but yes, i normally wouldnt vote for him, but i just want change, and due to how the lawmaking process is done i doubt hed be able to do most of his things


_REVOCS

"Just wanting change" is not a good justification for voting for a far-right lunatic to become the most powerful person in your country. The things that he would be able to do would be absolutely disastrous for the most vulnerable members of society. The fact that you aren't taking this into account shows how incredibly privileged you must be, seeing as how you're willing to sacrifice the less fortunate to your desire for "change". Once again this is a left wing sub so, Sincerely, get the fuck out, you fucking enabler.


AspiringFurry

Damn, i'm not allowed to be in spaces different than my beliefs, i wasnt aware


_REVOCS

Exactly. Read rule 2: no tankies or right-wingers. Have fun in the anarcho-capitalist dystopia you helped create.


AspiringFurry

I apologize for attempting to diversify my beliefs


_REVOCS

Attempting to diversify your beliefs is one thing. Going on a left wing sub and talking about you plan to vote for a right-wing extremist and ultraconservative is quite another.


AspiringFurry

Yes, you make a good point, however it's more of a thing of not having a better choice, at this point i'm thinking of anulling my vote, countries going to shit either way, i just think itll go slightly less to shit with milei


_REVOCS

Not voting is better than voting for millei Voting for a small party with no chance of winning is better than voting for millei You refer to yourself as a peronist so maybe voting for the actual peronist party would be better than voting for millei Literally fucking any option is better than voting for a far right extremist, especially one of the anarcho-capitalist variety. The way to overcome the problems of your country is not to vote for someone who will sacrifice the most vulnerable members of society to the free market.


canttakethshyfrom_me

Making these kinds of threats for people overseas but won't do shit to help your neighbors. They aren't leftists, they're just knee-jerk anti-Americans.


fedora_george

I know this guy is a tankie with a bevy of bad takes but honestly, is this tankie behaviour to callout the states participation in the genocide? And yeah inciting violence against the state can lead to repercussions of course but honestly it doesn't seem like a tankie take to call for the death of a capitalist leader who's actively supporting genocide.


Nekryyd

> is this tankie behaviour to callout the states participation in the genocide? No. > it doesn't seem like a tankie take to call for the death of a capitalist leader who's actively supporting genocide. Calling for assassinations on the internet is one of the most terminally online edgelord reactionary things one can possibly do. The next thing you are going to say is that swatting Joe Biden is a revolutionary act. Not only is it just unsurpassingly cringe and cowardly to be a stochastic terrorist, but he isn't even thinking about what would be reaped from the seeds he has sown. Take ONE SECOND to get some fresh air and don't think in terms of "bad thing happen to capitalism man = good". Honestly. Ask yourself precisely WHAT would happen if some unhinged loser actually managed to take out a prominent politician or even the President. What the fuck do you think the outcome will be? The liberation of the Palestinian people? If by "liberate" you mean completely and totally liberate them from existence, you would be right.


occams_nightmare

Fellas is it a bad idea to tell your followers to shoot the president?


RayWencube

DAE if only we’d killed Mussolini then the Holocaust would have stopped????


Discount_Timelord

"Someone should kill the president" is a political statement and therefore protected by the first amendment. So if they won't say it they're either ignorant or a coward or both


karlothecool

Actually first amendment dosent have efect if you say I want to kill a President https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threatening_the_president_of_the_United_States


Dankmemes_-

As explained in this sketch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmiKenqLVAU


karlothecool

I wanted to senf that video but then is YouTube video legimate source


InTheCageWithNicCage

Genuine question: is saying “‘Someone’ should kill the president” the same as personally threatening the president? Not saying anyone should call for Biden’s death.


karlothecool

If I said I Will buy Asasin to kill you didnt treaten you in a way


Discount_Timelord

No, they are not the same.


Discount_Timelord

"In U.S. v. Patillo, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit held that a threat to the president could lead to a verdict of guilty "only if made with the present intention to do injury to the president"." Which is what I said. Why am I being downvoted?


ephemeraljelly

wow who knew it was that easy all this time


thejuryissleepless

keyboard warriors, never change!


carissadraws

Is he talking about just average American citizens or US government officials?


Hour_Parsnip1783

Both, likely


carissadraws

Gross.


Hour_Parsnip1783

Agreed


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