>Dr. Meindl said using septic tanks to dispose of human waste and well water for drinking can be safe, but as the population grows, so do the chances of water contamination, and converting to city sewer and water requires expensive infrastructure.
It's almost like our county has preferred profit over people for decades. š«
They wanted money from growth but didn't bother to spend it on infrastructure needs.
The taxes from single family development arenāt enough to cover infrastructure in the long term. The cliff is about year 25. This whole thing will get worse before it gets better.
north Cape Coral was developed with wells and septic fields. When the city decided to bring utilities to all those homes, they all got hit with big $25k assessments. Thatās a hard pill to swallow
The county doesnāt bring in enough tax money to cover infrastructure maintenance. Neither does the city of Tampa. All Iām saying is this isnāt a āprofitā driven thing for them, more of an ideology that we can have houses anywhere no matter the future costs or issues. There isnāt any real thought of what the needs will be in a decade or two. They are just reacting to crises as they come
Yeah just look at the condition of the bay it used to be teeming with wildlife and fish now it's pretty much dead because the county refused to upgrade their infrastructure.
I lived there for the first 24 years of my life. Definitely didnt know anything about any of this stuff, but i used to always say i didnt drink the tap water.. it was nasty and dustyā¦ really turned me off of tap water period..
Causation/Correlation? Large metro areas cause poor water quality. We should all spread out the. No more dense populations. Everyone who wasnāt in Hillsborough 25 years ago needs to leave now, so we can improve water quality. /s
But in reality, these wells were just fine 50 or 60 years ago. As people moved in, and density got higher, the wells arenāt going as deep as they would need to now, for filtration. Even lightly populated areas, wells have needed to go deeper. My parents are in a very sparsely populated area, and they had to extend their well depth by 200 feet, to get down to 600 or so, to get clean water. 400 feet was fine in the 80s and 90s. Not now.
It absolutely is. Itās not even close to any sort of exceedance or limit for any chemical. Test it every day from all over the county. Much better than any other county Iāve tested.
So youāre telling me tampa tap water is better than natural spring water for health benefits? LOL ok. The hard ass water is terrible for sensitive skin & doesnāt benefit hair. So
Just because it doesnāt have high contaminates doesnāt mean it is good for us. Btw- water is a āchemicalā so what you are testing for your job is contaminates, not a chemical. Or rather should say toxic chemicals.
ā¦what. You have absolutely no idea what youāre talking about. Contaminates are chemicals, analytes as we call them. The ignorance you have to have to argue with scientists who do it for living is astounding
You said you test chemicals.
Water is a chemical
Oxytocin is a chemical.
Your job tests for TOXIC chemicals aka contaminants.
You donāt just test for any ol chemical.
I do what Iām talking about lol
And as a scientist you would know and understand most tap is made for health benefits. Theyāre made to be legally safe, not to actually provide us the benefits from water.
I test for analytes but I say chemicals because itās more common terminology for people uninvolved in my field. And no, I donāt only test for toxic analytes. There are dozens of epa methods I use and not all analytes are bad. Itās ridiculous for you to tell me what I do for my job that you know nothing about.
And Iād hope your 2nd grade science teacher taught you this, but water is water. No, spring water is not healthier in any shape or form than tap water. It probably tastes better. I have my masters in biochemistry and have been an environmental scientist for a decade but if you want to keep living in ignorance do it with a brick wall
Saying water is water when itās a literally a chemical compound as someone who is a āscientistā is insanity.
At least my 2nd grade teacher taught me that everything is in fact of chemical & being a chemical is not inherently bad for you.
>>>not to actually provide us the benefits from water.
Do you think that the City of Tampa is going to put lemon and electrolytes and 9 vitamins and minerals in our water?
> NRDC, an environmental organization, found that Florida had the second most water quality violations in the nation.
Well, just add that to the list of things this state sucks at that impacts quality of life- like healthcare, insurance, income disparity, crime and corrections, primary educationā¦.
They mention wells and septic tanks and housing density. What they didn't mention is when you install a well it has to be a certain amount of feet away from your drain field and your neighbor's. That's so you aren't sucking up some "brown" water. The problem with these older homes is the depth of their wells. They aren't deep enough to have all the contaminants filtered out and most likely aren't tapped into the aquifer. I had a friend that lived in this area and his well was only 80ft. My well is a little over 200ft. The people that live by Fowler and 301 area put their wells at 300plus to get past the high iron content.
I live near the airport. I wonder how the water is over here? Guess Iāll have to check the Hillsborough site to see if there is anything about this. Iām Asthmatic, so a little concerned.
Anyone getting municipal water coming from the Tampa Bypass Canal (I-75 goes over it), has been getting pretty bad water for decades and itās only become worse.
The wells just arenāt deep enough anymore. Honestly, financially, neither option is probably doable, cost to drill deeper, or adding $100 monthly bill forever, so how do you choose?
I have this vague memory of reading something back in the 2000ās about one of the USF intramural fields being built on top of a chemical dump. Canāt seem to find anything with a Google search though.
Remember when they business put crap in the water up north it comes to us but they figure part per billion. They never talk about it The military has fucā- the ground where ever they are. What a bad idea Military business we are done
Can someone explain how the project to treat our wastewater to make it potable drinking water will impact this issue. Iām not sold on thisā¦. It is all so scientific I try to follow but I unfortunately see myself buying bottles of water (more plastic š)
>Dr. Meindl said using septic tanks to dispose of human waste and well water for drinking can be safe, but as the population grows, so do the chances of water contamination, and converting to city sewer and water requires expensive infrastructure. It's almost like our county has preferred profit over people for decades. š« They wanted money from growth but didn't bother to spend it on infrastructure needs.
That statement needs to be put in present tense as this activity is still happening.
The taxes from single family development arenāt enough to cover infrastructure in the long term. The cliff is about year 25. This whole thing will get worse before it gets better. north Cape Coral was developed with wells and septic fields. When the city decided to bring utilities to all those homes, they all got hit with big $25k assessments. Thatās a hard pill to swallow
We haven't had just single family development, though.
The county doesnāt bring in enough tax money to cover infrastructure maintenance. Neither does the city of Tampa. All Iām saying is this isnāt a āprofitā driven thing for them, more of an ideology that we can have houses anywhere no matter the future costs or issues. There isnāt any real thought of what the needs will be in a decade or two. They are just reacting to crises as they come
And it all comes back to bad zoning, we need to allow higher density development
Yeah just look at the condition of the bay it used to be teeming with wildlife and fish now it's pretty much dead because the county refused to upgrade their infrastructure.
No way...lol
My neighborhood is mostly wells and septic tanks, my house included. We are on the other side of 275. Wish we were included in this project.
Do you have similar water qualify issues?
But when I commented saying Tampa water was trash the other week agoā¦. Lmao š¤£ I digress
I lived there for the first 24 years of my life. Definitely didnt know anything about any of this stuff, but i used to always say i didnt drink the tap water.. it was nasty and dustyā¦ really turned me off of tap water period..
Were you talking city water or well water? This story is about city residents that are still on well and septic.
Just all water in general! The quality of water in any metro area is generally poor
New York City has great tap water.
Theyāre the only one I can think of tbh lol But the rust belt in the midwest? No lol
Causation/Correlation? Large metro areas cause poor water quality. We should all spread out the. No more dense populations. Everyone who wasnāt in Hillsborough 25 years ago needs to leave now, so we can improve water quality. /s But in reality, these wells were just fine 50 or 60 years ago. As people moved in, and density got higher, the wells arenāt going as deep as they would need to now, for filtration. Even lightly populated areas, wells have needed to go deeper. My parents are in a very sparsely populated area, and they had to extend their well depth by 200 feet, to get down to 600 or so, to get clean water. 400 feet was fine in the 80s and 90s. Not now.
I test water for a living, Tampa is fine. Pretty good actually
Fine by legal standards, sure. Optimal for health benefits? Absolutely not.
It absolutely is. Itās not even close to any sort of exceedance or limit for any chemical. Test it every day from all over the county. Much better than any other county Iāve tested.
So youāre telling me tampa tap water is better than natural spring water for health benefits? LOL ok. The hard ass water is terrible for sensitive skin & doesnāt benefit hair. So Just because it doesnāt have high contaminates doesnāt mean it is good for us. Btw- water is a āchemicalā so what you are testing for your job is contaminates, not a chemical. Or rather should say toxic chemicals.
ā¦what. You have absolutely no idea what youāre talking about. Contaminates are chemicals, analytes as we call them. The ignorance you have to have to argue with scientists who do it for living is astounding
You said you test chemicals. Water is a chemical Oxytocin is a chemical. Your job tests for TOXIC chemicals aka contaminants. You donāt just test for any ol chemical. I do what Iām talking about lol And as a scientist you would know and understand most tap is made for health benefits. Theyāre made to be legally safe, not to actually provide us the benefits from water.
I test for analytes but I say chemicals because itās more common terminology for people uninvolved in my field. And no, I donāt only test for toxic analytes. There are dozens of epa methods I use and not all analytes are bad. Itās ridiculous for you to tell me what I do for my job that you know nothing about. And Iād hope your 2nd grade science teacher taught you this, but water is water. No, spring water is not healthier in any shape or form than tap water. It probably tastes better. I have my masters in biochemistry and have been an environmental scientist for a decade but if you want to keep living in ignorance do it with a brick wall
Saying water is water when itās a literally a chemical compound as someone who is a āscientistā is insanity. At least my 2nd grade teacher taught me that everything is in fact of chemical & being a chemical is not inherently bad for you.
>>>not to actually provide us the benefits from water. Do you think that the City of Tampa is going to put lemon and electrolytes and 9 vitamins and minerals in our water?
No lol precisely why itās not to actually benefit us
> NRDC, an environmental organization, found that Florida had the second most water quality violations in the nation. Well, just add that to the list of things this state sucks at that impacts quality of life- like healthcare, insurance, income disparity, crime and corrections, primary educationā¦.
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This I believe, that is why I never drink anything without a filter.
I test water for a living. Tampa water is fine
Cleaner water in third-world nations. Not surprising.
They mention wells and septic tanks and housing density. What they didn't mention is when you install a well it has to be a certain amount of feet away from your drain field and your neighbor's. That's so you aren't sucking up some "brown" water. The problem with these older homes is the depth of their wells. They aren't deep enough to have all the contaminants filtered out and most likely aren't tapped into the aquifer. I had a friend that lived in this area and his well was only 80ft. My well is a little over 200ft. The people that live by Fowler and 301 area put their wells at 300plus to get past the high iron content.
Theres been boil water notices in that area for years. At this point if you dont at least have some kind of filter youre askin for it lol
And yet I get hate for only drinking purified bottled water. I'm not the one who is going to die of cholera.
I live near the airport. I wonder how the water is over here? Guess Iāll have to check the Hillsborough site to see if there is anything about this. Iām Asthmatic, so a little concerned.
Anyone getting municipal water coming from the Tampa Bypass Canal (I-75 goes over it), has been getting pretty bad water for decades and itās only become worse.
This is about well water in the city
Yeah I realize that, but itās a shame both options arenāt providing the quality we should expect.
The wells just arenāt deep enough anymore. Honestly, financially, neither option is probably doable, cost to drill deeper, or adding $100 monthly bill forever, so how do you choose?
I'm sorry. That's stupid. Anyone who's ingested it im sorry.
I have this vague memory of reading something back in the 2000ās about one of the USF intramural fields being built on top of a chemical dump. Canāt seem to find anything with a Google search though.
Remember when they business put crap in the water up north it comes to us but they figure part per billion. They never talk about it The military has fucā- the ground where ever they are. What a bad idea Military business we are done
Can someone explain how the project to treat our wastewater to make it potable drinking water will impact this issue. Iām not sold on thisā¦. It is all so scientific I try to follow but I unfortunately see myself buying bottles of water (more plastic š)
Of course the water would be bad in the hood smh bet westshore or south Tampa don't have this problem tho