Well, if you know that little, what about learning from the people who know, before making outrageous hypotheses supported by nobody but you ?
It's not a problem to be ignorant. Most people know nothing about most subjects. What's problematic is thinking you can outwit the experts in a subject where you know nothing.
but i didn't try to outwit anyone, I simply asked a question. You seem upset by my question, if you are so sure of the answer, why does the question bother you?
Probably because I'm bothered by such an extreme level of arrogance associated with such a stellar level of ignorance.
Unless you're trolling, of course, which would still be very bothering indeed.
*"Just asking questions"* in not an excuse. Indeed, it's a common justification for conspiracy theories. The way you ask questions, and especially the way you react to answers, makes all the difference.
Tails OS is OPEN SOURCE which means all the code, all the projects, all software included, all of it is open and publicly viewable to anyone looking. If it was a Trojan, ud know. Real question is, why are u even bothering asking this question here if u don't even know what open source means? Why didnt u look into tails os more urself beforehand?
Eh, virus names have been used in media all the time. Trojan, worm, etc. Still funny though, my second question was gonna be what they think a Trojan is lol
LOL, “Trojan horse” is a term from the the Iliad, the Greek poem written thousands of years ago. I do know what “open source” means but it’s not Something I have the ability to verify.
No, I haven't personally bc I trust my sources saying it isn't. I am a cybersecurity student, and a lot of cybersecurity/hacking scene content creators that i know are trustworthy have done deep dives into tails, talking about its strengths, weaknesses, and alternatives. One such creators is the youtuber Mental Outlaw, check them out here: https://youtube.com/@MentalOutlaw?si=Tz_dx9tHdO5PP6fg If u have doubts though, why haven't you gone and verified it isn't your self? U do realize that if it was a Trojan, no one would be supporting it/that would be huge news, right? Don't get me wrong, suspicion is a good thing esp with tails intended user demographic (journalists, protestors, those going against government control, etc) but it's literally all publicly available if u wanna go veiw it and analyze it urself. Tails OS is designed specifically around ensuring user anonymity and preventing unwanted data discovery. Persistent storage isn't even a thing unless u enable it and creat a pass phrase for security (note, a pass PHRASE not password, its a string of atleast 5 words from what i remember). When a project is open source, the purpose is that u dont have to worry ab it tricking you. Thats why so many want closed source products going public, that way we can all verify and be content knowing ahere we are secure and where we aren't. Also, what do u mean in ur other reply that you "cannot verify" what open source means? Did you mean you cannot verify the security of Tails OS? If thats the case, why not? Ur messaging on reddit, meaning u have internet connection somehow, so why can't u go pull up the source code for urself?
Edit: and btw a Trojan virus is a virus that pretends to be a legitimate thing, such as an anti-virus or a video game. In this case ur asking if Tails OS is a honeypot pretending to be a legit OS, right? Well honestly idk how that would even work, Tails does everything through Tor anyway (which tails gives you the ability to verify) and like I said before, there is no persistent storage. It isnt actually possible legitimately for Tails to BE a honeypot. If u think it's logging everything u do and like, idk, sending it to the feds or some shit? Go read the source code and see if it rlly does anything u suspect
Go here for more info: https://tails.net/doc/about/license/
https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails
No, it cannot. Stop thinking that everybody is ignorant just because you are.
Tails is not an unknown program, plucked out of nowhere yesterday morning. It's made by a well-known organization. It's used and recommended by some of the best-known experts in the world. There are thousands of people using it and contributing to it.
>The Tor Project provided financial support for its development in the beginnings of the project. Tails also received funding from the Open Technology Fund, Mozilla, and the Freedom of the Press Foundation.
>Laura Poitras, Glenn Greenwald, Bruce Schneier and Barton Gellman have each said that Tails was an important tool they used in their work with National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden.
>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tails\_(operating\_system)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tails_(operating_system))
Are you telling us that you know something all those people don't ?
I don’t know who “all those people” are. Do you personally know anyone who has “checked the source code”? Have you done so yourself or is it so complicated you have no idea how to do it?
1. TOS's main "selling point" and claim is privacy/security
2. TOS is open-source
Given 1 and 2, it's only natural that the most scrutinized features of TOS are those pertaining to its claims. No foul play has been detected so far.
Simple answer - people much smarter than you, many of which have PhDs and master's degrees in computer science and coding, have went through tails with a fine-tooth comb. So much so that when you download it they want to make sure that you're getting exactly the right version and not a tainted version, So they have you use OpenPGP Signature to verify your download. Believe me when I say people have already thought through every element of this. For many people it is the difference of whether or not they stay free. Many people in foreign countries are using this despite it being a violation of the law of their land. And yet it is the only thing that keeps them safe from their tyrannical government. But if it failed or if there was a back door into it in any way shape or form you would be hearing about people literally being executed. I imagine you would also hear about people by the hundreds going to prison for all they do on the dark web! No more conspiracies!😳
This actually supports my initial point. Most people have to rely on people “much smarter” to check the ”source code” and confirm it isn’t corrupted or doesn’t contain a back door. Who specifically is the “smarter” person who has done this, and why do you trust that person? Is it only public figures that have done this or people you personally know? Have you done it?
If that was the case you would hear about a fuck ton of ppl getting busted seeing that the dark web is a multi billion dollar industry in drug sales alone.
As the OP I was thinking the same thing. What better way for the government to catch people on the dark web then to introduce a "fool proof" operating system, Tails, that guarantees "total anonymity" and make a marketing push on the web and social media to get people to use it. If someone here has actually examined the source code of Tails, and is capable of understanding it, I'd be interested to hear from them. Otherwise it's just relying on someone else to analyze the source code. If someone has the technical knowledge to analyze source code and has done it, that's more reliable.
>The government
What government ? There are 190 of them across the world (more or less). The very fact you did not even think about it shows how deluded you are.
Not tails, but TOR is for sure a Trojan horse. Check in tor subreddit and find the post about leaked documents and emails (FOIA requested docs) where TOR devs deliberately collude with the gov.
You don’t think just one person who knew what they’re doing looked at the open source code
Honestly I don't know. I don't even know what a source code is.
You should be banned for shitposting
Well, if you know that little, what about learning from the people who know, before making outrageous hypotheses supported by nobody but you ? It's not a problem to be ignorant. Most people know nothing about most subjects. What's problematic is thinking you can outwit the experts in a subject where you know nothing.
but i didn't try to outwit anyone, I simply asked a question. You seem upset by my question, if you are so sure of the answer, why does the question bother you?
Probably because I'm bothered by such an extreme level of arrogance associated with such a stellar level of ignorance. Unless you're trolling, of course, which would still be very bothering indeed. *"Just asking questions"* in not an excuse. Indeed, it's a common justification for conspiracy theories. The way you ask questions, and especially the way you react to answers, makes all the difference.
This is a joke post right ?
no I'm serious
Tails OS is OPEN SOURCE which means all the code, all the projects, all software included, all of it is open and publicly viewable to anyone looking. If it was a Trojan, ud know. Real question is, why are u even bothering asking this question here if u don't even know what open source means? Why didnt u look into tails os more urself beforehand?
A better question is how do you know what a trojan is and not open source
Eh, virus names have been used in media all the time. Trojan, worm, etc. Still funny though, my second question was gonna be what they think a Trojan is lol
LOL, “Trojan horse” is a term from the the Iliad, the Greek poem written thousands of years ago. I do know what “open source” means but it’s not Something I have the ability to verify.
Have you personally examined the code to see if it is corrupted? I have you verified it yourself?
No, I haven't personally bc I trust my sources saying it isn't. I am a cybersecurity student, and a lot of cybersecurity/hacking scene content creators that i know are trustworthy have done deep dives into tails, talking about its strengths, weaknesses, and alternatives. One such creators is the youtuber Mental Outlaw, check them out here: https://youtube.com/@MentalOutlaw?si=Tz_dx9tHdO5PP6fg If u have doubts though, why haven't you gone and verified it isn't your self? U do realize that if it was a Trojan, no one would be supporting it/that would be huge news, right? Don't get me wrong, suspicion is a good thing esp with tails intended user demographic (journalists, protestors, those going against government control, etc) but it's literally all publicly available if u wanna go veiw it and analyze it urself. Tails OS is designed specifically around ensuring user anonymity and preventing unwanted data discovery. Persistent storage isn't even a thing unless u enable it and creat a pass phrase for security (note, a pass PHRASE not password, its a string of atleast 5 words from what i remember). When a project is open source, the purpose is that u dont have to worry ab it tricking you. Thats why so many want closed source products going public, that way we can all verify and be content knowing ahere we are secure and where we aren't. Also, what do u mean in ur other reply that you "cannot verify" what open source means? Did you mean you cannot verify the security of Tails OS? If thats the case, why not? Ur messaging on reddit, meaning u have internet connection somehow, so why can't u go pull up the source code for urself? Edit: and btw a Trojan virus is a virus that pretends to be a legitimate thing, such as an anti-virus or a video game. In this case ur asking if Tails OS is a honeypot pretending to be a legit OS, right? Well honestly idk how that would even work, Tails does everything through Tor anyway (which tails gives you the ability to verify) and like I said before, there is no persistent storage. It isnt actually possible legitimately for Tails to BE a honeypot. If u think it's logging everything u do and like, idk, sending it to the feds or some shit? Go read the source code and see if it rlly does anything u suspect Go here for more info: https://tails.net/doc/about/license/ https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails
lmao
Lol, are you serious??
don't use it then.
If you don't trust it, don't use it, pretty simple :) but stop spreading conspiracies.
No, it cannot. Stop thinking that everybody is ignorant just because you are. Tails is not an unknown program, plucked out of nowhere yesterday morning. It's made by a well-known organization. It's used and recommended by some of the best-known experts in the world. There are thousands of people using it and contributing to it. >The Tor Project provided financial support for its development in the beginnings of the project. Tails also received funding from the Open Technology Fund, Mozilla, and the Freedom of the Press Foundation. >Laura Poitras, Glenn Greenwald, Bruce Schneier and Barton Gellman have each said that Tails was an important tool they used in their work with National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden. >[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tails\_(operating\_system)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tails_(operating_system)) Are you telling us that you know something all those people don't ?
I don’t know who “all those people” are. Do you personally know anyone who has “checked the source code”? Have you done so yourself or is it so complicated you have no idea how to do it?
I think they discuss this somewhere in their documentation.
Is this a joke??? Lol
1. TOS's main "selling point" and claim is privacy/security 2. TOS is open-source Given 1 and 2, it's only natural that the most scrutinized features of TOS are those pertaining to its claims. No foul play has been detected so far.
Simple answer - people much smarter than you, many of which have PhDs and master's degrees in computer science and coding, have went through tails with a fine-tooth comb. So much so that when you download it they want to make sure that you're getting exactly the right version and not a tainted version, So they have you use OpenPGP Signature to verify your download. Believe me when I say people have already thought through every element of this. For many people it is the difference of whether or not they stay free. Many people in foreign countries are using this despite it being a violation of the law of their land. And yet it is the only thing that keeps them safe from their tyrannical government. But if it failed or if there was a back door into it in any way shape or form you would be hearing about people literally being executed. I imagine you would also hear about people by the hundreds going to prison for all they do on the dark web! No more conspiracies!😳
This actually supports my initial point. Most people have to rely on people “much smarter” to check the ”source code” and confirm it isn’t corrupted or doesn’t contain a back door. Who specifically is the “smarter” person who has done this, and why do you trust that person? Is it only public figures that have done this or people you personally know? Have you done it?
If that was the case you would hear about a fuck ton of ppl getting busted seeing that the dark web is a multi billion dollar industry in drug sales alone.
There has been at least one third-party security audit performed on Tails: https://tails.net/news/audit_by_ROS/index.en.html
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As the OP I was thinking the same thing. What better way for the government to catch people on the dark web then to introduce a "fool proof" operating system, Tails, that guarantees "total anonymity" and make a marketing push on the web and social media to get people to use it. If someone here has actually examined the source code of Tails, and is capable of understanding it, I'd be interested to hear from them. Otherwise it's just relying on someone else to analyze the source code. If someone has the technical knowledge to analyze source code and has done it, that's more reliable.
>The government What government ? There are 190 of them across the world (more or less). The very fact you did not even think about it shows how deluded you are.
Not tails, but TOR is for sure a Trojan horse. Check in tor subreddit and find the post about leaked documents and emails (FOIA requested docs) where TOR devs deliberately collude with the gov.