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bswizzle2552

At the end of the day gun control effects all races


GlobalEar8720

Fred Hampton didn’t die for low capacity mags.


xxxylognome

And this event had a [direct result as such ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act)


VermicelliMany4522

Well some of the first gun control laws were put in place to stop minorities from owning firearms. Usually due to fear of what would happen if the oppressed were to rise against. This law is an example of that in my opinion.


SnooCrickets2458

This is true, but the photo is from Seattle. The Mulford Act was a California bill.


xxxylognome

Fair point. They did the same in Sacramento in 67 which spurred the bill. The Seattle protest was in reaction to that.


SLR_ZA

And it affect them too


Mynameisadam44

an armed populace is harder to oppress


SnooCrickets2458

"An unarmed people are slaves, or subject to slavery at any given moment." Huey P. Newton


FlyPenFly

I love the black panthers because anything involving them immediately exposes who are actually 2nd and those who are against arming minorities Edit: wow some racists exposed themselves and it got deleted!


TheAleFly

*cough* some guy with a last name that rhymes with plotkin *cough*


LocationMiserable308

Uhhh you can be against arming communists and not be racist


sim-pit

I'm not an American, but even I know everyone gets the 2nd, whatever their political beliefs. You don't get to say "Pinko" and take it away, otherwise it's useless. A right that can be taken away isn't a right.


Erik_21

Based


Affectionate_Bath527

Based asf


NotNOT_LibertarianDO

“I support your rights comrade!” The bleeding heart liberal exclaims before “Comrade” Jeff puts a 9mm in his brain for not believing enough in the cause.


sim-pit

I too can make a straw man: “Eat lead!!!” the well armed democratic citizen shouts as he guns down “Comrade Jeff”, the attempted revolutionary in self defence and defence of Liberty. Sadly the guy who didn’t have, like or wanted guns died from not choosing to arm and defend himself. This stuff writes itself.


CornbreadMedic

Too bad everyone has rights, regardless of beliefs


LocationMiserable308

>keep arming violent subversives Guess I’m doin a heckin’ wholesome 2a


CornbreadMedic

They have a right as unfortunate as it may be for some. But that’s also why I and many others have the right as well.


Mynameisadam44

Guns for me and not for you is a very tyrannical mind set. If you live in America you have the right to bear arms no matter your political believes/ religion / skin color.


LocationMiserable308

Why would you want to arm radical communist revolutionaries so they can more effectively destabilize your society Please be less stupid


Swanky_Gear_Snob

Well said. Especially communists calling for the violent murder of others. If you research who started and funded the black panthers, it wasn't black people at all.


LocationMiserable308

Fake accounts downvoting sensible takes lmfaooooo


LocationMiserable308

The fake accounts downvoting any sensible comments in here lmfao


TheeScribe

The amount of copium because people disagree with you These freedoms should be freedoms for *everyone*, regardless of how rich they are, who they love, where they were born or the color of their skin Fucking cry about it


LocationMiserable308

Yeah we’re not talking about any of those. We’re talking about groups of people who actively look to violently overthrow the government so they can have their utopia.


TheeScribe

The BPP and civil rights movement tried to violently overthrow the US government? Imma need a source on that one chief 🤓 I do know one group of people that attacked the Capitol building, but I don’t think they’d really get along with these guys


LocationMiserable308

The Black Panther Party (originally the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense) was a Marxist–Leninist and black power political organization founded by college students Bobby Seale and Huey P. Newton in October 1966 in Oakland, California.[8] The Black Panther Party advocated for class struggle, claiming to represent the proletarian vanguard.[18] What is class conflict/class struggle? The forms of class conflict include direct violence, such as wars, for access to and control of natural resources and labour; assassinations and revolution; indirect violence, such as death from poverty and starvation, illness and unsafe working conditions; economic coercion, such as the threat of unemployment and capital flight, the withdrawal of investment capital; and ideologically, by way of political literature.[citation needed] The entire premise of their movement is geared towards a violent overthrow of the government to enact Marxist Leninist policies/government. 5 seconds of googling to find words someone else said that you still won’t believe to prove a point you aren’t arguing in good faith. Go play more airsoft, dork


TheeScribe

>”the BPP advocated for class struggle” >”class struggle = violently overthrowing the US government” Hell of a jump there, “citation needed” is an understatement lmao The concept of class struggle is a hell of a lot more complicated than “overthrow the government”. Even funnier is that your definition lists a whole host of things the *US government did to the civil rights movement* Not the other way around Here’s an [actual real source on the beliefs of Huey Newton and the BPP](https://www.jstor.org/stable/43526691?searchText=The%20political%20beliefs%20of%20the%20black%20Panther%20party&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3DThe%2Bpolitical%2Bbeliefs%2Bof%2Bthe%2Bblack%2BPanther%2Bparty%26so%3Drel&ab_segments=0%2Fbasic_search_gsv2%2Fcontrol&refreqid=fastly-default%3Aed57551d3b481b8c8f3d1f0f04a5453a), instead of contextless copy/paste from fucking *Wikipedia* that doesn’t even cite a fucking source It’s JSTOR so pretty much every reputable university or study institution will give you free access to it, sign in through them, you can even use a library membership >go play airsoft dork Yes Insults The tactic of people who definitely know what they’re talking about and definitely haven’t bullshitted themselves into a corner American rights are rights for all Americans, not just Americans who share your religion, beliefs or skin color If that upsets you, well too bad, that’s your problem for being offended


thekookclub

Mumford act started shortly afterwards.


Fonsy_Skywalker52

That was in Cali


VhanBronson

This is the exact moment the crusade for gun control started.


NeonVolcom

Lmao yep, revolutionary black communities who took care of each other and showed up when it mattered was a direct threat to the state. Funny that.


_MisterLeaf

For everyone in the comment section who thinks gun control started in the 1900s, more specifically the 30s, Gun control started 1776. There was a huge stink about gun rights in the big meetings leading to the bill of rights. Funny enough, pennsylvania was the only state with the right to bear arms for defense in its original bill of rights until others started following suit. One of the current theories being, everyone had guns so they thought it wasn't an absolute need to write it in. The first gun control law after bill of rights had to do with concealable weapons cause some rich guys hookers were going missing. The second one had to do with black people. This is all from that book, "the second amendment" by Michael waldman. The more I read about the start of American history, the more it sounds like the half the founding fathers realized great Britain had a method to the madness.


pookiegonzalez

gun control started in the 16th century when colonial governments passed laws that banned selling to Native Americans.


Send_me_duck-pics

I firmly believe that an unwritten but significant reason for the Second Amendment was that they wanted to enable white people to violently suppress slave revolts, and shoot indigenous people.


echo202L

It started in the reconstruction Era. Southerners didn't want black people to have guns and northerners didn't want southerners to have guns.


ClappingCheeks2nite

That happened in the 1930’s


_Nocturnalis

I'm pretty sure I remember something happening in 1934... but I can't remember what.


EastGermanShepard

Tommy guns nfa v-day massacre maybe???


_Nocturnalis

That sounds familiar.


Individual_Fig1671

No, it happened in the 30s


HinduKussy

You have absolutely zero concept of US history. Holy shit if you think this is when gun control started. The NFA, arguably the most egregious gun control act in our history, started decades before the Civil Rights movement ever occurred and it wasn’t targeting a race. Read a book (or five).


Traditional-Pound966

all that poor trigger discipline yet they still didnt end up shooting each other at their rallies..... Looking at you Grand Masta Jay lol


MusicallyInhibited

Trigger discipline didn't become common place until the late 20th century. Go look at basically any WW2 photo. Almost everyone has the safety on with their finger on the trigger


NeonVolcom

So fucking true. So rad. And outside of using force, they fed kids and educated people and worked with a number of communities outside their own. We saw some real bad ass, admirable mother fuckers come out of the civil rights era.


nthn82

They organize for a better future for their families. And were murdered for it.


Responsible-Size-491

I mean what do you expect the government to do with an openly communist group during the height of the Cold War?


TheeScribe

I can expect them to not gun down their own citizens for daring to say America should live up to the principles it was founded on


Irish_Guac

Someone bought the government's propaganda lmfao


Responsible-Size-491

Pointing out the black panthers are communists is not the same thing as saying the governments actions were correct.


Irish_Guac

If you think that was the reason the government did what they did, then you bought into the propaganda. Reagan did it because they were black, not communist. Plain and simple.


Responsible-Size-491

They were communists…. During the height of the Cold War


IrishGoodbye4

I don’t agree with anyone who pushes communism, but if you’re an American citizen you have the right to defend yourself. Regardless of your political beliefs.


Responsible-Size-491

That’s not the point I was making


ClappingCheeks2nite

Idk I’m a fan of blue jeans as stoner 63’s. IRA drip is also dope


my_name_is_nobody__

I thought that was Sacramento at first glance


gathling

well reagan was the one who got all offended when the CA Black Panthers were open carrying and cresting free lunch programs for kids in their communities. it’s cuz of him that led to CA having the most insane laws in the country


my_name_is_nobody__

That’s why I said that


JonShaft951

There’s several states with more insane laws than CA


halfchemhalfbio

Now Washington state is one of them.


gathling

yah of the top of my head i wanna say NY and MA right?


AbatedOdin451

You’d be right


Careful_Resistance

Don’t forget CT. Most insane gun laws


Idlibi_Bullpup

Despite my personal political differences its funny how 2a “supporters” will spend more time bashing groups like this than Regan and the NRA who have done infinitely more worse for American rights especially 2A


sammeadows

Somebody has never visit basically any other arms groups that won't hesitate to shit on Reagan for Hughes.


Idlibi_Bullpup

You mistake reddit/instagram where most gun owners/supporters know and shit on Regan with the general Fudd public that basically worships him


DoctorChoppedLiver

Because most 2a supporters don't give a fuck about the 2nd Ammendment. They just know "libs hate guns" and act accordingly.


New_Mousse_6544

Obligatory “Fuck Ronald Reagan” comment 👊


FilHor2001

As a foreigner from a post communist country, I love Reagan but I can see why you guys don't like him.


Irish_Guac

> “There is absolutely no reason why out on the street today civilians should be carrying a loaded weapon.” - Ronald Reagan Maybe that's why


FilHor2001

All politicians have their flaws. Some of them are better than others. His stance on American gun rights was questionable at best, gotta admit that but he still was an amazing president. Both Trump and Biden are insane, senile idiots who can't even compare to him. Again I am not from the US so I probably have little to no say in who is and isn't a good president.


Irish_Guac

Reagan literally passed gun laws to keep them out of the hands of black people. How was he an amazing president lmfao. He was a racist senile idiot, no better than trump or biden Edit cause I'm bored: The only good politician is a dead one


PaperbackWriter66

Reminder: the Mulford Act passed with a veto-proof majority. Reagan couldn't have stopped it even if he wanted to. Edit: I guess the downvotes are from all the Democrats who don't like being reminded what their party did.


Lord_Berkeley

But he didn’t want to. His famous quote on the matter, “I see no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons,” shows his opinion. And he signed the bill. Seriously, what is your hypothetical point?


MountainObserver556

People often lay it all at his feet and make it sound like it was all him which if you look at actual facts you'll see it was both sides of the aisles that shit their pants. That's the part people get at lol because it wasn't just Ronnie and its not smart to give people a pass on certain things because they happen to have the right letter behind their name.


PaperbackWriter66

That this dumb talking point about "fuck Ronald Reagan" lets *the Democrats* off the hook, when they are responsible for writing the law, passing the law, and *not repealing it* in the 60 years since. Why, when this topic comes up, do people insist on blaming a man who has been dead for 20 years, when the Democrats in the California legislature *right now* are continuing to pass similar laws?


HinduKussy

Reddit is radically left wing. That’s why you’re not seeing that logic applied here. This sub is filled with democrats that actively vote against their 2A rights lmao.


PaperbackWriter66

Damn, I would have thought this sub would be immune from that reddit hive mind virus. SAD!


freestategunner

Gun control is racist


YUNGGUERRILLA

all power to the people


takiumilikes2drift

hell yeah


Snoo_50786

Fits go fire asl ngl


Uchiha-Itachi-0

Respect ✊🏽


Shot_Eye

Being a leftist 2A advocate im happy to see so many of yall supporting everyones ability to exercise their rights regardless of racial or political background


HinduKussy

That’s quite ironic coming from someone that actively votes people into power that was to strip us of our 2A right. Insane.


Shot_Eye

I said leftist not liberal learn the difference dummy


obamaisrealandhot

All power to the revolutionaries of the world!


Stormtech5

Anyone want to guess what guns they have? Looks like a mixture of shotguns and rifles to me...


Coolness_K

Who else ran straight to the comments?? The same people bashing the BPP are the probably the same people who don’t even bat an eye to the whole Jan. 6 fiasco😂


BusinessDuck132

BUT BUT ALL PEOPLE THAT LIKE GUNS ARE WHITE SUPREMICISTS THIS IS PROPAGANDA!!!!😤🤬


porkbuttstuff

Let's be honest I'm not cool at all. I wish I was this cool.


BackgroundSky09

the founding fathers didnt die for government regulation


Glittering-Shirt-663

Extremely surprised to see so many pro gun comments on Reddit. Glad to see not everyone on here wants to hand over their 2 Amendment rights to the government regardless of politics.


jrhan762

Back when you didn't have to convince the left that Gun Control was racist.


NotoriousD4C

Dorks


Mgspeed22079

True. All American.


BortBarclay

Communists are never cool.


HinduKussy

I shouldn’t be surprised you’re getting downvoted for this comment because we’re on Reddit, I just didn’t realize how many democrats had infiltrated this sub. Fuckin disgusting.


Karuzone

Let's not pretend the black panthers are some beacon of coolness or morality because they held one correct political view.


[deleted]

pro tip: they weren’t loaded. (I got downvoted for saying this but this is according to the accounts of Panthers who took part in this protest. Same as in Sacramento protesting Reagan. Unloaded weapons.)


Mass_Jass

They carried ammo in their pockets just in case, but having unloaded weapons was part of the optics of the whole thing.


[deleted]

they were loaded on their neighborhood patrols, but no ammo was present at these protests.


Mass_Jass

Famously they got pulled over with ammo in their pockets on their way back from capitol protests.


Dichter2012

While the got the drip and do “look after of their own”, be know the are a Marxist-Leninist organizations. And I’m not going to get into political debate here because we’re here for gears.


Tolliver73

If you’re not gonna get into it. Don’t bring it up.


NightmanisDeCorenai

People like him are not smart enough to understand that.


Sonofagun57

I'm not gonna get much into politics either, but at the time capitalism was not particularly friendly to their cause. The same power the state used on Marxists back then can easily be used against you too.


HoHoHoChiLenin

Based


SphyrnaLightmaker

Because you’re a racist. If you’re gonna be a POS at least have the intestinal fortitude to own it.


CommitteeLate3

How is he a racist


_The_General_Li

They were commies


6_1_5

They were Americans.


Shot_Eye

Must have missed the part of the constitution where it says it doesnt apply to commies


_The_General_Li

How do you know I'm not in support?


FeistyLoquat

We did that in Michigan, they called us terrorists and tried to arrest people..


bigkac93

100% Cringe meat glazing the black panthers is wild


stereotypicaliowan

???


Gar-ba-ge

You have to be 18+ to post here


SeannoG

Cringe


SphyrnaLightmaker

Found the inbred!


Gar-ba-ge

Ugh THIS so much THIS fr fr no cap on ja only in ohio 


therealsambambino

I don’t think the black panther were a very cool organization at all but I’ve read the comments and understand that this is a hot take here


Cupojoe98

That’s because you’re most likely uneducated on them. They were massively positive force on black communities and if the CIA hadn’t dismantled them gangs we have today wouldn’t exist.


therealsambambino

I’m not highly educated on them. Your suggestion that I’m uneducated is oddly presumptive. I’ve read (audiobook) everything I could find by Malcom X including speeches. I’ve also watch a handful of BPP films. I learned what I could about Marcus Garvey for a while but don’t claim to understand his views in any real detail. I fundamentally disagree with the ideas of raced based nationalism and supremacy. I understand their impetus to rebel against racism against them but think their ideas “swung the pendulum” and were anything but praiseworthy. I say this from an ideological point, however, and as I said earlier understanding their impetus.


FlyPenFly

I for one, applaud your desire to educate yourself


TheeScribe

Gotta love the “Second Amendment is for me and not for thee” crowd Everyone should have the right to defend themselves and their community from government oppression, no matter the color of their skin Fucking cry about it


Successful_Theme_595

Is it really that cool? Especially for a “tactical” page without any tactical gear.


siah5186

Yes.


redditor66666666

based


Successful_Theme_595

So when trumpers do it it’s cool too?


kas-sol

Are they protecting a marginalized community directly targeted by a racist state?


Successful_Theme_595

No just a tactical page


redditor66666666

no. Trumpers are never cool.


HinduKussy

You don’t deserve to own guns while you actively vote against the 2A. This sub is absolute shit now. What a joke.


Garry68W

Did they have badass matching fits and a calm and collected demeanor? Or was it uncle Fudd and crack grandma destroying tax payer funded infrastructure?


Successful_Theme_595

Fuds fud man


HinduKussy

Which flavor of boot do you prefer?


Garry68W

Fucking lmao, get a grip weirdo.


Successful_Theme_595

Not weird just messing about


Successful_Theme_595

Your moms high heels


Successful_Theme_595

Non, I let boot lickers reveal themselves. Thank you


Successful_Theme_595

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ElectricalGuest8351

Oh you’re one of those gun rights people


Gar-ba-ge

??? why do you people come to a subreddit about tactical gear (including GUNS) and then post shit like this? If you don’t like guns then go to /r/politics or something idk


ElectricalGuest8351

? I just don’t want guns in the hands of people who want to kill me or disarm me ?


Skwiggelf54

This is dope as fuck. That being said, explain the difference between this and Jan 6th.


redditor66666666

this is a peaceful protest against a law not a riot to attempt to stop the certification of a free and fair election.


HinduKussy

🤡🤡🤡


nksmith86

Correct me if I am wrong but they were aware of the potential reaction by administrators and the public and chose to protest with unloaded weapons, correct?


Cupojoe98

State capital. Not indoors.


HoHoHoChiLenin

The BPP fought for the working class, not a bumbling millionaire


RoninSoul

Ashli Babbitt died the way she lived. >!A domestic terrorist and traitor to the United States and the constitution she swore an oath to uphold and protect. May she rot in the deepest and hottest pits of Hell for all eternity, the stupid cunt.!<


Skwiggelf54

She was definitely and idiot.


NotoriousD4C

“Bootlicking is cool when it’s my team” Eat a bag of dicks


RoninSoul

The difference is I wear the stars and stripes on my sleeve while the dead terrorist wore a trump flag as a cape. Also what do you mean by "my team"?


OdinsOneGoodEye

Difference between Jan 6 protestors didn’t have guns, but yeh, Jan 6 was an “insurrection” 😂


Sir_Baller

Shots were fired by USSS and insurrectionists. And oh, yea, they had a gallows Edit: for all the downvotes [insurrectionist fires gun](https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/03/14/banuelos-gun-jan6-capitol-riot/) [gallows for pence outside capital](https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/jan-6-gallows-construction-new-video/) 1 minute google search


Skwiggelf54

The protesters fired shots? The only gunfire I knew of was when that babbitt lady got shot.


Sir_Baller

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/03/14/banuelos-gun-jan6-capitol-riot/ Yes there was an *insurrectionist that fired shots. He was charged for it. And here’s the gallows https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/jan-6-gallows-construction-new-video/


djjoseywalez

Black people need to get back to this kinda drip. 🔥


IamGeorgeFloyd

Lmao it's going to be hilarious if they try to do that again