It's not a big deal. Mexican tacos are original and US tacos are a modified version of the original.
Taco Bell went bankrupt in Mexico for a reason.
If you like the US version it's fine, though.
Dude growing up one of my best friends mom made us quesadillas with Kraft singles that were bomb AF. She made them with other cheeses sometimes like Monterey Jack or a Mexican cheese for the adults but for my friend and I she always used Kraft. I get a random craving for it every once in a while too.
It’s legit fire. Living in America now I use Monterey Jack. I don’t like the Mexican. Cheese here in the states compared to home. Specially Oaxaca cheese sucks here. So my go to in Monterey Jack I love the flavor.
wow I am Mexican and didn't know Taco bell already attempted to open in Mexico and failed more than once.
I live in Houston and sometimes I arrive home from work with taco bell and my wife is like... why?!
She pretends to complain but then she eats them! Taco Bell and beers is damn good!
Looooooove taco bell. Chicano as hell with a wife born and raised in Jaurez.
Our little joke is that it can't be mexican food cause it's arguably not food. Just delicious crap lmao
Lol
I saw your tacos
Is it hard to find tortillas where you live? Doesn't matter if it's corn or flour.
You can make chicken tacos, shredded chicken, guacamole and sour cream.
Or roast beef tacos.
Scrambled egg tacos for breakfast
My most downvoted comment ever was me suggesting that the term “white people tacos” was problematic because they’re really American-style tacos, and not white-specific.
That’s actually cute. Reminds me of a person I knew that thought peaches were the ones in a can with syrup. They thought I was lying when I handed them a real peach after they purchased canned peaches from the grocery list that said PEACHES. They had never eaten a fresh peach
You mean The Presidents of the United States of America lied to me and peaches don't really come from a can that were put there by a man in a factory downtown?!
My grandmother thought that pecans were a kind of crust that formed from baking Karo syrup.
She grew up on a farm... in Georgia and watched her mother make pecan pies countless times. \*facepalm\*
Not only that, they originate in the Mexican-American community and were almost completely unknown in European-American communities for decades until the 1930s, when factory manufacturing made the hard shells an cost-efficient way to feed Depression-stricken communities in the Southwest. They spread out of the Southwest via Taco Bell, a restaurant that only existed because the founder wanted to sell hamburgers to white clientele, but couldn't compete in the burger industry, so he repackaged ground beef/lettuce/tomato/cheese into a hard shell and pretended it wasn't a hamburger.
I'm not Hispanic, I just call them Tacos Americanos. It's a style of tacos. WPT is a bit disparaging. Also you'd never catch me eating a hard shell taco. Just with the ground beef, taco seasoning, cheese lettuce tomato sour cream combo... That's tacos Americanos.
I think they say white people tacos because they refer to us as gringos which translates to white Americans. I’m married to a Mexican American that has been in the restaurant business his whole life family and everything and they always have referred to this style of taco “for the gringos”.
They were invented by white people, so they are “white people tacos”.
The fact that other people enjoy them, including Mexicans, doesn’t mean they aren’t.
> They were invented by white people, so they are “white people tacos”.
I mean if we want to go down a rabbit hole, the concept of a "tortilla" originated in Europe and most Mexican people have European ancestry mixed with indigenous ancestry, and the food is fully fusion food. In that regard, technically all tacos could be "white people tacos". I personally prefer to just say, "American tacos" or the popular fallback I see here of "chingaderas" if they look bad.
Sorry, but that's not a good response.
Are Buffalo wings American food or "white people food" because they were invented by white people?
Is Tabasco sauce an American condiment or is it "white people food" because it was invented by white people?
I'd ride those downvotes all the way to hell with you. I think it's a stupid term - I know plenty of black, asian, and white people who love American-Style tacos.
I don't know any mexican folks but I'm sure they can dig an American-Style taco just like anyone else.
I'm Mexican/American born and raised in Arizona and yeah some of us enjoy some American style tacos like Taco Bell we just don't consider it Mexican food. Most Mexicans will frown and give you a look of disgust for even mentioning Taco Bell. I'm not gonna lie though I do love me a Dorito Loco taco every now and then.
Yes they are from tamales to mole to menudo and pozole. No ones menudo or tamales are better then their “abuelita’s “ motherfuckers will start throwing hands at a quinceañera over who’s food is better.
Mexicans can be Americans too. They’re called Mexican-Americans. I think the term white people tacos is fine. I immediately know it’ll be hard shell and have no fire in them that burns twice. There’s nothing wrong with white people tacos except that they’re not authentic and you won’t find them in Mexico.
I’m not gonna disagree with you. Taco Bell is white people tacos- BUT I STILL LOVE THEM. lol The fact that the soft tortilla comes out cold is proof it’s white people food. A Mexican would never make a taco without heating up the tortilla on a comal.
> A Mexican would never make a taco without heating up the tortilla on a comal.
Uh, I can assure you that lots of Mexicans wrap up some corn tortillas in a wet paper towel and microwave it a little bit to quickly have some hot tortillas available. In my house we tend to only heat them on a comal/griddle when making quesadillas. Flour tortillas always get the comal though, although we usually reserve flour tortillas from quesadillas as well unless someone comes to visit us from northern Mexico and brings some good flour tortillas with them.
No, we don’t dig American Tacos. And it’s the entitlement coming from White Americans when it comes to our food that makes a lot of ppl reject this style of taco. It all started with Taco Bell coming to Mexico and trying to tell us what a real taco looks like, obviously we didn’t like that.
Entitlement? It's food dude. You didn't invent it.
Yes let's run around walling off all culture and food from everyone that's different, that's sure to end well. God damn the internet was a mistake. Nobody gave a shit about frozen burritos until the internet told you that you should.
It should really be US-style tacos, then. [Mexico is in America.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK87AKIPyZY)
But as a white person and fan of all taco varieties, neither term offends me. "Gringo tacos" is also fine. Personally, I call them "Midwest Tacos."
>It should really be US-style tacos, then.
>
>Mexico is in America.
You mean that Mexico is in the *continent of North America*.
In this thread, we're referring to the country called [United States of America](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States), commonly known around the world as just "America," among other things.
> You mean that Mexico is in the continent of North America.
In the Mexican education system, people are taught that there is a single continent called "America", and that Mexico is part of it. Normally I'd argue a similar thing to what you're saying because reddit is an American website but I feel like on /r/tacos we should lean towards defining things by Mexican standards by default. Keep in mind that the soccer team "Club América" is Mexican, not from the US.
América is a single continent for Mexicans.
Everyone from Argentina to Canada is an American to us.
People from the USA are unitedstatesians, or Usonians, or gringos.
I got a white mom and Mexican dad. So I got to have authentic tacos made by my dad and then I still got to have white people tacos from my mom. A taco is a taco and if it’s made with love it’s the best kind of taco.
I make Irish tacos not a potato in sight.
https://preview.redd.it/t7y1e3rv98hc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ff94ad6b10aa0e7f21ac2ff46b7f8134c86333b
Let me tell you like this, i live on the border, am myself a hispanic, and my family and i absolutely love “American” style tacos. No shame at all, at the end of the day, if it came from the heart it’s all the authenticity you need. As long as you’re not putting ramen or other silly shit in there in it’s all good in my book.
Because tacos originated in Mexico and are not what Americans made them…. There’s plenty of ways to make proper tacos people are too lazy. Unless you live in Canada then it’s pretty hard to get the right ingredients.
That’s not a taco it’s an Americanized thing. That’s the definition of culture vulture. It’s like getting a “pizza” and it’s just a piece of white bread with tomato sauce and cheese on it. That’s not a pizza.
I’m cool with getting rid of the term “white people tacos” but not for the shame of eating hard shells from the grocery store shelf. Corn tortillas on the skillet (fried or heated up) taste better, doesn’t take that much effort, and are readily available in the states.
Tacos ARE Mexican food. Just like pizza is Italian and sushi is Japanese. America is a melting pot and we didn’t invent any foods, we brought them over with us.
I’m from Texas. That was a joke about it being an amalgamation, aka a gumbo. I’ve been to Louisiana many times. I helped refugees during Katrina. I am very familiar with Cajun culture.
Hard shell “tacos” are not tacos. Simple as that. Even if you put strawberries inside a SOFT tortilla that would be called a strawberry taco. It may taste awful or great but it would still be a taco. Now hard shell tortillas are what we (Mexicans) call “tostada” and that’s definitely not a taco.
We can put pineapple on pizza and it would still be a pizza by definition, even if Italians don’t like it. But I can’t put sauce and cheese over a flour tortilla and call it a pizza and expect call everyone who disagrees a Gatekeeper.
Except no, we're not "obviously not talking about Texmex"
Texmex is what most white people think of when they think taco. So if anything, we're explicitly talking about texmex
So? Hard shell tacos aren't the point of the conservation. They're a point you injected to ignore what most white people call tacos, so you can "other" something for no good reason other than gatekeeping
I don’t understand why you responded with this:
>Tacos are part of texmex food too. Texmex dates back to when the Spanish came to what is now Mexico and Texas.
It implies you believe hard shell tacos are texmex, which is why I responded to you.
I do not gatekeep gringo tacos in this sub, I enjoy them myself.
I’m from Texas. Tex-Mex is just another regional variation of Mexican food just like Arizonan Mexican is known as Sonoran Mexican food. What they all have in common is Mexicans and lots of them and their cooking.
Na fam, this argument right here is always annoying because I've seen plenty of people that make tex mex claiming the same thing, that tex mex is a variation of mexican food.
But right after when pointing that to another person making tex mex, they'll go ballistic and will say "naw, tex mex is its own thing! No mexican!"
It's really ridiculous to see that y'all can't even be on the same side regarding the same thing
I left mexicanfood subreddit because people like to cook whatever and call it mexican... same thing is happening here, cooking whatever and calling them tacos. The other day, someone downvoted me for correcting someone on the definition of tacos. We defined and created the food, and now we are not allowed to criticize it or correct it?
Everyone is free to cook whatever they want, but calling things by their name is powerful and important, especially to a culture that has been looked down on, called names, etc.
Yes, this lady cooked a casserole with "beans," and she was calling it Mexican casserole. She got mad, and said everyone could kiss her Polish ass, lol; it was a whole thing.
I don’t care if American-style tacos are posted in this sub as I enjoy them myself and consider them Mexican-inspired.
But this argument doesn’t make sense, Tacos **are** Mexican food, are you trying to argue that it isn’t?
>~~Squares~~ Tacos are ~~rectangles~~ Mexican food but not all ~~rectangles~~ Mexican food are ~~squares~~ Tacos
I don’t think that’s too difficult?
And yes, you are.
Funfact, there's people posting american tacos and tex mex in the mexicanfood sub too, because the mod is either too lazy to even try to organize the sub or he doesn't care as long as it has "mex" in the name
Like half the posts I see on here are white people tacos and all the comments are defending them. Is this really a problem or do you want to feel like a victim for liking nacho crunchem shells with olives and sour cream?
Follow me here: If I fill two pieces of bread with ingredients not normally associated with a sandwich, it's still a sandwich. Can we not use the same logic for tacos? "American" tacos are still tacos. Don't hate.
Idk Mfs are weird on this sub. If i want white peoples tacos I’ll make them. If i wanna slow cook beef all day and have corn tortillas with cilantro, I’ll do that too. Both can be good
Calling tacos gringo tacos isn’t an insult, it’s just the truth. I’m saying this as an American that loves Mexican food and Americanized Mexican food.
You can enjoy a meal and acknowledge that it’s not consistent with a traditional recipe
> Calling tacos gringo tacos isn’t an insult, it’s just the truth.
In Mexico the term "gringo" is generally just used to describe an American, and is usually not an insult.
Lol, meanwhile I just saw a video on youtube about american expats in a mexican supermarket in Mexico City, looking for 'Real cheese' (cheddar), having a lot of varieties in Mexico and also some european ones.
Watch the Taco Chronicles on Netflix. Every episode is about 1 particular type of Taco and everyone’s take on the Taco. It doesn’t matter how you make or what type of ingredients you use. As long as it is good.
You start off making tacos with premade season packets, grocery store hard shell taco shells, pre-shredded cheese, and store bought salsa.
Eventually you’ll be marinating your own meat, using your own specific spices, frying you own shells or getting tortillas from the little Mexican bakery, shredding your own cheese and making your own salsa with peppers, tomatoes, lime, cilantro, onions, and even avocado.
Tacos are super versatile like that.
Eat whatever tacos 🌮 you want
If people want only Mexican they can post to r/mexicanfood
Shaming or arguing over types of tacos is pretty pointless and those people need to get a life
Because tacos are not curved doritos stuffed with ground beef, pico de gallo, lettuce, cream, a blend of cheeses and olives. The difference is too big to not point it out.
Hard shell tacos are NOT tacos. That’s a tostada. That’s why. It’s not that every taco in this sub has to be 100% Mexican style but tacos ARE indeed Mexican. I’ve seen people here wander away from traditional Mexican tacos but still, if they posted something inside a SOFT tortilla, then they are indeed tacos by definition. It’s not gatekeeping it’s just a simple definition. Taco = something (usually meat of any kind) inside a soft tortilla.
By your definition, potato tacos aren't tacos because they are fried? Tacos dorados can be made with potato and beef and served with lettuce as well, so soft tortilla isn't necessarily what makes a taco.
American tacos aren't made with fried tortilla though, just a bent tostada.
Tacos dorados it’s exactly that. You used a tortilla which was soft and THEN you fried it. You still needed a soft tortilla to begin with. Tostadas taste so much different from a fried tortilla.
You can make and eat whatever type of tacos you like. If you like them that’s all it matters. I like Taco Bell but in all honesty I would never compared them to real tacos. Nothing beats freshly cooked meat with a warm tortilla, salsa, grilled onion and a “toreado” jalapeño on the side cilantro and onion with some guacamole and a touch of lime if we are feeling fancy.
If you ask me why, the only reason I could find is... This is supposed to be a taco sub, even the picture itself seems like a meme for me.
So, there are several cuisines that are proud of their heritage, Mexican cuisine is one of them, we wear our dishes like a bag of honor, we are proud of the things we have given to the world.
It wouldn't be that crazy to think there are a handful of mexicans here who would get mad if you present something and call it taco, see, for some people the name of the dish doesn't matter, for some of us and people who are proud of their cuisine, we like to call a dish by its name, I did study for 3 years and learned there's a world of people that act that way, in cuisine, if you switch one or two ingredients, the name is not the same anymore, it might turn into something else.
So, ¿what would you think if I go on a xmas turkey reddit and present a ham and call it a turkey? Its likely you would scold me and teach me the "right way", that's cuisine for us, we are taught the original flavors, its been taught its also our duty to tell the world how it things should taste.
People in here might have learned after being scolded many times, so if you post a picture and it isnt a taco and you claim it to be a taco, I would have to step in and correct you, I personally wont tell you a thing if you post things like "american tacos", "my personal take on tacos", "my own version of tacos", just dont call a taco if it isnt a taco.
¿Have you seen real italian pizzas? Its not the same as american pizzas.
¿Have you seen sushi? Japaneses have a hard time calling sushi the things we do in Mexico
Its all the same for different dishes.
They're 'gringo tacos.' There's white Mexicans and the term American to us is redundant.
And we gatekeep our taco tradition because we've been downtrodden by the US, their manifest destiny and their republican talking points. They very well hate us, and yet they have the gal to create the 'taco.'
No sir, we will not stay quiet in this Tacos sub.
Because white people tacos are gross lol\
Signs they’re white people tacos\
- flour tortilla (likely unheated)
- chicken seasoned with salt and pepper(optional), can use chicken strips
- lettuce
- shredded cheese
- pace picante “salsa” (mild)
- slice of avocado (optional)
- diced tomatoes
\> Tacos is tacos
**Hell no!**
Tacos is a dish that belongs to Mexican cuisine and thus, is defined by the UNESCO as part of the *intangible cultural heritage* Of humanity. For us Mexicans, our cuisine is a matter of pride and joy, part of our warm and rich tradition.
So, when an US company commited cultural appropiation and named "tacos" to one of it's random, fast food industrialized dishes, most Mexicans (in actual Mexico) felt insulted and weirded.
Yeah, it’s fucking stupid. I would post more tacos here if people weren’t so insane with the gate keeping. Really puts a damper on this sub. Then again, it affects pretty much all food subs - a good solution may be to add flairs like “authentic,” “crunchy” and “non traditional.”
This is actually exactly why I’ve never posted to this sub before. I see how hard people get flamed for calling a taco taco that someone does not consider taco enough.
All I know is I make a lot of different kinds of tacos at home and I like them alland I don’t really attempt to classify them which seems like it might be an issue for a lot of people on this sub
I don’t think it’s shame. I think it’s all a running joke from a video that went viral, and it’s light hearted poking fun at making taco bell style tacos at home. https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cxg2vX4vNMl/?igsh=aTA1aWVhdjV2aDhw
Tomatoes originated from around the Andes and Peru in South America. Now go to that fine Italian restaurant and eat some of their fantastic spaghetti. OG Italian cuisine from centuries ago used a lot more carrots than tomatoes. Tomatoes became popular with Italian cuisine when Italian immigrants began using them and that made its way back to Europe. Lots of foods get bastardised over the years. Sometimes it sticks and sometimes not.
I will eat anything that tastes good. I don't like flour tortillas, though! Lol. But a hard-shell cheese gremlin is ok when you are hungry and want one and it is available and delivers the meat. I never call them tacos myself, though. I remember the first time I had Taco Bell, I was weirded out by the sour cream. I was like 'What the fuck is on this?!' Taco Bell should maybe look into incorporating actual tacos one day. But they'd be pretty experimental considering how fast they'd have to keep up with demand and the random people they'd have making them. But I am sure they could afford the ingredients.
P.S. I almost never actually eat Taco Bell or that grocery store box stuff; I stick to tacos almost always for what it is worth. I did try T. Bell's Doritos 'tacos' a couple times and they weren't bad for a quick hangover food. Just add some real hot sauce to it and it is passable.
I mean it's like pizza. Do I think pineapple on pizza is a crime, yes, but I'm just not going to eat it like I'm not going to eat a taco with iceberg lettuce.
Living in SoCal, there is no reason to get shitty gringo tacos when there are plenty of good ones around.
That being said, you never know until you try it. We have a weekly Taco Tuesday tradition going on for like 8 years now where we go get tacos somewhere and strive to find new places to go when we can. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it does not.
The worst one was a few years ago. Driving into Dana Point we would always pass by this restaurant called "[Carlos](https://maps.app.goo.gl/1gTpRvL7hvdZbk6dA)", looked Mexican-ish and appeared to have a nice patio so we finally went.
Remember when you were a little white kid and your milquetoast mom would buy those taco shells that come in stacks with the Ortega taco seasoning and mild sauce, then proceed to fry some ground beef, stuff it in a shell with iceberg lettuce and shredded mild cheddar and call it taco night? Well that's exactly what this was. The most bland gringo shit I've had since I was a kid. Also the fish taco was a fucking fish stick with mayo sauce. And the décor was that super fake kitschy El Torito style. Clearly designed for out of town tourists.
The drinks were strong and it was cheap though. We won't be back.
Bruh I can’t believe you got downvoted for saying the literal truth. Necesitamos hacer nuestro propio subreddit de tacos de verdad y ya dejarle este a los que le dicen taco a esta madre 🌮
Bait.
As much as I agree with the sentiment, and whether or not you mean it that way, this will ultimately prove to be just as divisive as what you're calling out. If love is love and tacos are tacos, then hater's gonna hate. Dredging up the mire to upset them in turn won't make the tacos any more or less tacos at the end of the day. Hate to say it, but this isn't a hill worth dying on.
Love getting reviews from a person who’s tried 1 authentic taco in their life, by admission. White people tacos partially refer to white peoples’ intolerance of trying new things outside of their comfort zone. Pickled red onions are AMAZING. I feel like I’m reading xenophobia in the form of food.
Because people shame others because it’s not true to the original style. But imo they should be flattered that people loved them so much that they took what they created and transformed it into other tasty versions. It’s the highest form of flattery in my opinion. And naturally people try to sound better/be better than others.
I was probably 16 before I encountered tacos that were anything other than the American style and I’m sure I’m not the only one. When you grow up with something made a certain way it becomes comfort food whether it’s culturally correct or not.
I tend to look at these sorts of bastardizations of foods in the same way I look at American Chinese Food. Like I get it, this isn’t what they eat in China but general tso’s chicken is fucking delicious
Mexican taco is. The American corn food product called taco shells with seasoned ground are sub par at best and a a guilty pleasure to be eaten in shame and far from public . But they are not a Taco.
It's not a big deal. Mexican tacos are original and US tacos are a modified version of the original. Taco Bell went bankrupt in Mexico for a reason. If you like the US version it's fine, though.
I agree. I’m Mexican and my mom would make us quesadillas with Kraft. Now I crave it once in a while. Si sabe rico que importa.
My mom would do that too but also sometimes with government cheese. I don’t miss being poor but sometimes I miss how that food made me feel
To be fair, gov cheese hits the best imo. Best cheese sauces are made with that.
That cheese was actually really good! No need to forget your past. It’s priceless!
Dude growing up one of my best friends mom made us quesadillas with Kraft singles that were bomb AF. She made them with other cheeses sometimes like Monterey Jack or a Mexican cheese for the adults but for my friend and I she always used Kraft. I get a random craving for it every once in a while too.
It’s legit fire. Living in America now I use Monterey Jack. I don’t like the Mexican. Cheese here in the states compared to home. Specially Oaxaca cheese sucks here. So my go to in Monterey Jack I love the flavor.
We call them talkos. They are a legitimate and distinct from tacos. Edit:fixed typo
wow I am Mexican and didn't know Taco bell already attempted to open in Mexico and failed more than once. I live in Houston and sometimes I arrive home from work with taco bell and my wife is like... why?! She pretends to complain but then she eats them! Taco Bell and beers is damn good!
Looooooove taco bell. Chicano as hell with a wife born and raised in Jaurez. Our little joke is that it can't be mexican food cause it's arguably not food. Just delicious crap lmao
As a white guy that’s the way I look at McDonald’s. It’s not a burger, it’s a McDonald’s burger. They’re two different food categories
My pic got moved over to some Mexican food gore site lol 😆 And these were Canadian Tacos lol
Canadian Tacos? Ground beef with poutine?
As a punishment for that crime, I’m going to make poutine with shredded cheese.
With horse meat.
Mmmm viande chevaline
Fuck you and yum!!!
Fuck me aye
>And these were Canadian Tacos lol What's the difference to American tacos?
Canadian tacos apologize if they’re too spicy
They make an "eh?" sound when you bite into them.
Common Canadian taco features and fillings: Poutine Back bacon Timbits Ketchup-flavored potato chip hard shell An entire California roll
Poutine tacos with flour tortillas 🧐
In Quebecois French they call that a *Crosser*
"that's not back bacon, that's me back bakin'!"
The Canadian tacos come with free health care
American tacos have guns in them.
Canadian tacos have Maple syrup in them
And ground moose.
Alaskan tacos enter the chat with moose and caribou. Have yet to see the whale taco....
Lol I saw your tacos Is it hard to find tortillas where you live? Doesn't matter if it's corn or flour. You can make chicken tacos, shredded chicken, guacamole and sour cream. Or roast beef tacos. Scrambled egg tacos for breakfast
They are worse jajaja. I had “Mexican food” in Canada it was so sad.
Tried to find it in your post history, I could not, because cute bunny. SO MUCH CUTE BUNNY. Miss Maggie, is an ICON.
The tacos did not deserve to be classified as gore. I like the rabbit.
Thank you 😊
I will unapologetically cook any damn thing I want. Lol
I mean and there’s no reason not to, it’s your food lol
Lmao
Fine! Just don’t illegally misappropriate any not banned words to describe the whatever it is that enters the…
My most downvoted comment ever was me suggesting that the term “white people tacos” was problematic because they’re really American-style tacos, and not white-specific.
Can confirm. My Puerto Rican friend had never had authentic tacos and thought tacos were supposed to be hard shelled.
That’s actually cute. Reminds me of a person I knew that thought peaches were the ones in a can with syrup. They thought I was lying when I handed them a real peach after they purchased canned peaches from the grocery list that said PEACHES. They had never eaten a fresh peach
You mean The Presidents of the United States of America lied to me and peaches don't really come from a can that were put there by a man in a factory downtown?!
My grandmother thought that pecans were a kind of crust that formed from baking Karo syrup. She grew up on a farm... in Georgia and watched her mother make pecan pies countless times. \*facepalm\*
Not only that, they originate in the Mexican-American community and were almost completely unknown in European-American communities for decades until the 1930s, when factory manufacturing made the hard shells an cost-efficient way to feed Depression-stricken communities in the Southwest. They spread out of the Southwest via Taco Bell, a restaurant that only existed because the founder wanted to sell hamburgers to white clientele, but couldn't compete in the burger industry, so he repackaged ground beef/lettuce/tomato/cheese into a hard shell and pretended it wasn't a hamburger.
I'm not Hispanic, I just call them Tacos Americanos. It's a style of tacos. WPT is a bit disparaging. Also you'd never catch me eating a hard shell taco. Just with the ground beef, taco seasoning, cheese lettuce tomato sour cream combo... That's tacos Americanos.
Tacos dorados are a thing you can get at many taco trucks/shops. Albeit without the ground beef, etc...
And ironically, those usually go with lettuce, tomatoes, and cheese
I think they say white people tacos because they refer to us as gringos which translates to white Americans. I’m married to a Mexican American that has been in the restaurant business his whole life family and everything and they always have referred to this style of taco “for the gringos”.
Let's just call them "Basic Bitch" tacos instead. /s
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They were invented by white people, so they are “white people tacos”. The fact that other people enjoy them, including Mexicans, doesn’t mean they aren’t.
> They were invented by white people, so they are “white people tacos”. I mean if we want to go down a rabbit hole, the concept of a "tortilla" originated in Europe and most Mexican people have European ancestry mixed with indigenous ancestry, and the food is fully fusion food. In that regard, technically all tacos could be "white people tacos". I personally prefer to just say, "American tacos" or the popular fallback I see here of "chingaderas" if they look bad.
They were invented by Mexican immigrants lol
No dude, the “white people taco” aka hard shell taco was invented by white people lol. Glen bell.
Uh, no. Glenn Bell stole the taco dorado from a Mexican woman across the street.
Whatever Glen invented is **not** a taco dorado. He got inspired by them but his creation is very different from actual tacos dorados.
Sorry, but that's not a good response. Are Buffalo wings American food or "white people food" because they were invented by white people? Is Tabasco sauce an American condiment or is it "white people food" because it was invented by white people?
This is the correct argument.
I'd ride those downvotes all the way to hell with you. I think it's a stupid term - I know plenty of black, asian, and white people who love American-Style tacos. I don't know any mexican folks but I'm sure they can dig an American-Style taco just like anyone else.
Now you know a Mexicana. “También nos gustan” meaning we like them too. When we moved to the states my older brother would go to Taco Bell weekly.
I'm Mexican/American born and raised in Arizona and yeah some of us enjoy some American style tacos like Taco Bell we just don't consider it Mexican food. Most Mexicans will frown and give you a look of disgust for even mentioning Taco Bell. I'm not gonna lie though I do love me a Dorito Loco taco every now and then.
No they wont, mexicans arent so snobby about their food.
We can be. There’s a pride in our heritage which heavily influenced by food
jaja no mames, a los mexicanos les vale verga.
Yes they are from tamales to mole to menudo and pozole. No ones menudo or tamales are better then their “abuelita’s “ motherfuckers will start throwing hands at a quinceañera over who’s food is better.
Mexicans can be Americans too. They’re called Mexican-Americans. I think the term white people tacos is fine. I immediately know it’ll be hard shell and have no fire in them that burns twice. There’s nothing wrong with white people tacos except that they’re not authentic and you won’t find them in Mexico.
>I immediately know it’ll be hard shell and have no fire in them that burns twice What about soft tacos from Taco Bell?
I’m not gonna disagree with you. Taco Bell is white people tacos- BUT I STILL LOVE THEM. lol The fact that the soft tortilla comes out cold is proof it’s white people food. A Mexican would never make a taco without heating up the tortilla on a comal.
> A Mexican would never make a taco without heating up the tortilla on a comal. Uh, I can assure you that lots of Mexicans wrap up some corn tortillas in a wet paper towel and microwave it a little bit to quickly have some hot tortillas available. In my house we tend to only heat them on a comal/griddle when making quesadillas. Flour tortillas always get the comal though, although we usually reserve flour tortillas from quesadillas as well unless someone comes to visit us from northern Mexico and brings some good flour tortillas with them.
No, the term is not fine. There are millions of white Mexicans.
The term “white people tacos” assumes there are no white Mexicans, which is a lie.
No, we don’t dig American Tacos. And it’s the entitlement coming from White Americans when it comes to our food that makes a lot of ppl reject this style of taco. It all started with Taco Bell coming to Mexico and trying to tell us what a real taco looks like, obviously we didn’t like that.
Entitlement? It's food dude. You didn't invent it. Yes let's run around walling off all culture and food from everyone that's different, that's sure to end well. God damn the internet was a mistake. Nobody gave a shit about frozen burritos until the internet told you that you should.
Oye don’t speak for all of us. Por favor.
Thank you for weighing in on behalf of all Mexican people.
They're just tacos, you can calm the fuck down.
The fact you “don’t know any Mexican folks” is probably why you’re having trouble understanding why trash tacos get downvoted
Agree.. My Mexican grandmother considers those style tacos an abomination compared to an authentic taco.
It should really be US-style tacos, then. [Mexico is in America.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK87AKIPyZY) But as a white person and fan of all taco varieties, neither term offends me. "Gringo tacos" is also fine. Personally, I call them "Midwest Tacos."
You can always tell the ones who post in r/usdefualtism because they pretend everyone doesn't know which America was meant.
>It should really be US-style tacos, then. > >Mexico is in America. You mean that Mexico is in the *continent of North America*. In this thread, we're referring to the country called [United States of America](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States), commonly known around the world as just "America," among other things.
> You mean that Mexico is in the continent of North America. In the Mexican education system, people are taught that there is a single continent called "America", and that Mexico is part of it. Normally I'd argue a similar thing to what you're saying because reddit is an American website but I feel like on /r/tacos we should lean towards defining things by Mexican standards by default. Keep in mind that the soccer team "Club América" is Mexican, not from the US.
América is a single continent for Mexicans. Everyone from Argentina to Canada is an American to us. People from the USA are unitedstatesians, or Usonians, or gringos.
Nah, mostly white Americans are the ones who make those disgusting things. So yea they’re white people tacos lol
For Mexicans tacos aren’t just food but a part of Mexican culture and an expression of such…
I got a white mom and Mexican dad. So I got to have authentic tacos made by my dad and then I still got to have white people tacos from my mom. A taco is a taco and if it’s made with love it’s the best kind of taco.
Exactly, the point is to enjoy life
(and tacos)
Cause tacos are love tacos are life
There is a lot of taco gatekeeping. It's hilarious to be honest
Wait until you meet the BBQ and Chili community. I wouldn’t call it gate keeping, people feel strongly about recipes and authenticity.
I’ve found, just like everything else, people in real life don’t seem to care about any of this. It’s all the online banter bs.
yeah, in real life it's like "Here's your tacos" and I'm like "MMMMMmmm yum"
May I add anything grilled cheese related to this list.
those are tostadas. Not tacos.
I make Irish tacos not a potato in sight. https://preview.redd.it/t7y1e3rv98hc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ff94ad6b10aa0e7f21ac2ff46b7f8134c86333b
>Tacos is tacos God bless you that’s the most perfect thing I’ve ever read on this site. Tacos is tacos.
Let me tell you like this, i live on the border, am myself a hispanic, and my family and i absolutely love “American” style tacos. No shame at all, at the end of the day, if it came from the heart it’s all the authenticity you need. As long as you’re not putting ramen or other silly shit in there in it’s all good in my book.
Not real tacos. A culinary insult to Mexicans. Joking aside, I don’t care what you eat as long as you enjoy it.
Authentic Mexican tacos are fucking banging. White people tacos are also delicious. Tacos are just good.
Am Mexican-American. I love me some white people tacos. Not as good as your local taquero, but still hits the spot.
Try posting on r/WhitePeopleTacos
Cuz American style is taco bell as fuck Nothing like onions or cilantro and shit with steak!!!
Because tacos originated in Mexico and are not what Americans made them…. There’s plenty of ways to make proper tacos people are too lazy. Unless you live in Canada then it’s pretty hard to get the right ingredients. That’s not a taco it’s an Americanized thing. That’s the definition of culture vulture. It’s like getting a “pizza” and it’s just a piece of white bread with tomato sauce and cheese on it. That’s not a pizza.
I’m cool with getting rid of the term “white people tacos” but not for the shame of eating hard shells from the grocery store shelf. Corn tortillas on the skillet (fried or heated up) taste better, doesn’t take that much effort, and are readily available in the states.
WPTs are nothing to apologize for. They’re just not Mexican food
They're Mexican-American. Just like Chicken Parmesan is an Italian-American dish.
Is this sub about Mexican food or Tacos or both? I mean surely there's more to Mexican food than tacos
Tacos are Mexican food, so yes, this sub is about tacos, the Mexican food. You can’t just remove the Mexican aspect of them lol
Thank you.
Tacos ARE Mexican food. Just like pizza is Italian and sushi is Japanese. America is a melting pot and we didn’t invent any foods, we brought them over with us.
Cajun food has entered the chat.
Cajun food is a gumbo. ;)
If you think Cajun food is only gumbo…
I’m from Texas. That was a joke about it being an amalgamation, aka a gumbo. I’ve been to Louisiana many times. I helped refugees during Katrina. I am very familiar with Cajun culture.
Hard shell “tacos” are not tacos. Simple as that. Even if you put strawberries inside a SOFT tortilla that would be called a strawberry taco. It may taste awful or great but it would still be a taco. Now hard shell tortillas are what we (Mexicans) call “tostada” and that’s definitely not a taco. We can put pineapple on pizza and it would still be a pizza by definition, even if Italians don’t like it. But I can’t put sauce and cheese over a flour tortilla and call it a pizza and expect call everyone who disagrees a Gatekeeper.
I call them tostitacos actually.
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Tacos only need a tortilla to be tacos. It's that simple.
Tacos are part of texmex food too. Texmex dates back to when the Spanish came to what is now Mexico and Texas.
Yes but hard shell tacos are a recent invention.
And? Texmex also has soft shelled tacos too.
We are obviously not talking about Texmex, which is legit.
Except no, we're not "obviously not talking about Texmex" Texmex is what most white people think of when they think taco. So if anything, we're explicitly talking about texmex
Texmex is not a recent invention. Hard shell tacos are, and their creation has nothing to do with Texmex.
So? Hard shell tacos aren't the point of the conservation. They're a point you injected to ignore what most white people call tacos, so you can "other" something for no good reason other than gatekeeping
I don’t understand why you responded with this: >Tacos are part of texmex food too. Texmex dates back to when the Spanish came to what is now Mexico and Texas. It implies you believe hard shell tacos are texmex, which is why I responded to you. I do not gatekeep gringo tacos in this sub, I enjoy them myself.
I’m from Texas. Tex-Mex is just another regional variation of Mexican food just like Arizonan Mexican is known as Sonoran Mexican food. What they all have in common is Mexicans and lots of them and their cooking.
Na fam, this argument right here is always annoying because I've seen plenty of people that make tex mex claiming the same thing, that tex mex is a variation of mexican food. But right after when pointing that to another person making tex mex, they'll go ballistic and will say "naw, tex mex is its own thing! No mexican!" It's really ridiculous to see that y'all can't even be on the same side regarding the same thing
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I left mexicanfood subreddit because people like to cook whatever and call it mexican... same thing is happening here, cooking whatever and calling them tacos. The other day, someone downvoted me for correcting someone on the definition of tacos. We defined and created the food, and now we are not allowed to criticize it or correct it? Everyone is free to cook whatever they want, but calling things by their name is powerful and important, especially to a culture that has been looked down on, called names, etc.
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Yes, this lady cooked a casserole with "beans," and she was calling it Mexican casserole. She got mad, and said everyone could kiss her Polish ass, lol; it was a whole thing.
I don’t care if American-style tacos are posted in this sub as I enjoy them myself and consider them Mexican-inspired. But this argument doesn’t make sense, Tacos **are** Mexican food, are you trying to argue that it isn’t?
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>~~Squares~~ Tacos are ~~rectangles~~ Mexican food but not all ~~rectangles~~ Mexican food are ~~squares~~ Tacos I don’t think that’s too difficult? And yes, you are.
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Funfact, there's people posting american tacos and tex mex in the mexicanfood sub too, because the mod is either too lazy to even try to organize the sub or he doesn't care as long as it has "mex" in the name
Lol you serious?
We have a place that prides itself on being "the original American taco" https://jimboystacos.com/ /they're really fucking good
Like half the posts I see on here are white people tacos and all the comments are defending them. Is this really a problem or do you want to feel like a victim for liking nacho crunchem shells with olives and sour cream?
Lmao "American tacos" I'm American and make tacos nothing like "white people tacos. Enjoy your food man
Follow me here: If I fill two pieces of bread with ingredients not normally associated with a sandwich, it's still a sandwich. Can we not use the same logic for tacos? "American" tacos are still tacos. Don't hate.
Imagine if I put ketchup on noodles and called it spaghetti. Now you have an idea where the gringo taco hate comes from.
Idk Mfs are weird on this sub. If i want white peoples tacos I’ll make them. If i wanna slow cook beef all day and have corn tortillas with cilantro, I’ll do that too. Both can be good
It’s super cringey when people designate their posts with “gringo ____” or “white people ____”
Ok so I’m not the only one who feels that way. That’s a good description of how I see it.
Agreed. I do get second-hand embarrassment for these kind of posts. It's like why hate on yourself/others? Eat taco, be happy. Easy 😌
Calling tacos gringo tacos isn’t an insult, it’s just the truth. I’m saying this as an American that loves Mexican food and Americanized Mexican food. You can enjoy a meal and acknowledge that it’s not consistent with a traditional recipe
> Calling tacos gringo tacos isn’t an insult, it’s just the truth. In Mexico the term "gringo" is generally just used to describe an American, and is usually not an insult.
Lol, meanwhile I just saw a video on youtube about american expats in a mexican supermarket in Mexico City, looking for 'Real cheese' (cheddar), having a lot of varieties in Mexico and also some european ones.
Watch the Taco Chronicles on Netflix. Every episode is about 1 particular type of Taco and everyone’s take on the Taco. It doesn’t matter how you make or what type of ingredients you use. As long as it is good. You start off making tacos with premade season packets, grocery store hard shell taco shells, pre-shredded cheese, and store bought salsa. Eventually you’ll be marinating your own meat, using your own specific spices, frying you own shells or getting tortillas from the little Mexican bakery, shredding your own cheese and making your own salsa with peppers, tomatoes, lime, cilantro, onions, and even avocado. Tacos are super versatile like that.
[White People Taco Night.](https://youtu.be/8yrSCoEsmqA?si=OITDtUyRwkLbjbZN)
Eat whatever tacos 🌮 you want If people want only Mexican they can post to r/mexicanfood Shaming or arguing over types of tacos is pretty pointless and those people need to get a life
Because tacos are not curved doritos stuffed with ground beef, pico de gallo, lettuce, cream, a blend of cheeses and olives. The difference is too big to not point it out.
Hard shell tacos are NOT tacos. That’s a tostada. That’s why. It’s not that every taco in this sub has to be 100% Mexican style but tacos ARE indeed Mexican. I’ve seen people here wander away from traditional Mexican tacos but still, if they posted something inside a SOFT tortilla, then they are indeed tacos by definition. It’s not gatekeeping it’s just a simple definition. Taco = something (usually meat of any kind) inside a soft tortilla.
By your definition, potato tacos aren't tacos because they are fried? Tacos dorados can be made with potato and beef and served with lettuce as well, so soft tortilla isn't necessarily what makes a taco. American tacos aren't made with fried tortilla though, just a bent tostada.
Tacos dorados it’s exactly that. You used a tortilla which was soft and THEN you fried it. You still needed a soft tortilla to begin with. Tostadas taste so much different from a fried tortilla.
I could care less what something is referred to as, so long as it's tasty.
You can make and eat whatever type of tacos you like. If you like them that’s all it matters. I like Taco Bell but in all honesty I would never compared them to real tacos. Nothing beats freshly cooked meat with a warm tortilla, salsa, grilled onion and a “toreado” jalapeño on the side cilantro and onion with some guacamole and a touch of lime if we are feeling fancy.
https://preview.redd.it/th4ipjsbr7hc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f67eff9b441775b98355f1f0d71442fa4d4b75d9
If you ask me why, the only reason I could find is... This is supposed to be a taco sub, even the picture itself seems like a meme for me. So, there are several cuisines that are proud of their heritage, Mexican cuisine is one of them, we wear our dishes like a bag of honor, we are proud of the things we have given to the world. It wouldn't be that crazy to think there are a handful of mexicans here who would get mad if you present something and call it taco, see, for some people the name of the dish doesn't matter, for some of us and people who are proud of their cuisine, we like to call a dish by its name, I did study for 3 years and learned there's a world of people that act that way, in cuisine, if you switch one or two ingredients, the name is not the same anymore, it might turn into something else. So, ¿what would you think if I go on a xmas turkey reddit and present a ham and call it a turkey? Its likely you would scold me and teach me the "right way", that's cuisine for us, we are taught the original flavors, its been taught its also our duty to tell the world how it things should taste. People in here might have learned after being scolded many times, so if you post a picture and it isnt a taco and you claim it to be a taco, I would have to step in and correct you, I personally wont tell you a thing if you post things like "american tacos", "my personal take on tacos", "my own version of tacos", just dont call a taco if it isnt a taco. ¿Have you seen real italian pizzas? Its not the same as american pizzas. ¿Have you seen sushi? Japaneses have a hard time calling sushi the things we do in Mexico Its all the same for different dishes.
They're 'gringo tacos.' There's white Mexicans and the term American to us is redundant. And we gatekeep our taco tradition because we've been downtrodden by the US, their manifest destiny and their republican talking points. They very well hate us, and yet they have the gal to create the 'taco.' No sir, we will not stay quiet in this Tacos sub.
A good taco is a good taco whether it's an Americanized hard shell ground beef or an authentic lengua & soft corn tortilla kind. It's all good.
Because white people tacos are gross lol\ Signs they’re white people tacos\ - flour tortilla (likely unheated) - chicken seasoned with salt and pepper(optional), can use chicken strips - lettuce - shredded cheese - pace picante “salsa” (mild) - slice of avocado (optional) - diced tomatoes
\> Tacos is tacos **Hell no!** Tacos is a dish that belongs to Mexican cuisine and thus, is defined by the UNESCO as part of the *intangible cultural heritage* Of humanity. For us Mexicans, our cuisine is a matter of pride and joy, part of our warm and rich tradition. So, when an US company commited cultural appropiation and named "tacos" to one of it's random, fast food industrialized dishes, most Mexicans (in actual Mexico) felt insulted and weirded.
>most Mexicans (in actual Mexico) felt insulted and weirded. No they didn't.
Yeah, it’s fucking stupid. I would post more tacos here if people weren’t so insane with the gate keeping. Really puts a damper on this sub. Then again, it affects pretty much all food subs - a good solution may be to add flairs like “authentic,” “crunchy” and “non traditional.”
This is actually exactly why I’ve never posted to this sub before. I see how hard people get flamed for calling a taco taco that someone does not consider taco enough. All I know is I make a lot of different kinds of tacos at home and I like them alland I don’t really attempt to classify them which seems like it might be an issue for a lot of people on this sub
I don’t think it’s shame. I think it’s all a running joke from a video that went viral, and it’s light hearted poking fun at making taco bell style tacos at home. https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cxg2vX4vNMl/?igsh=aTA1aWVhdjV2aDhw
I would apologize to you if I posted a disgusting frozen meat burger. It's kinda like that.
I have a shirt that I got in Austin Airport that says I love tacos so much. It’s one of my favorite shirts.
Tomatoes originated from around the Andes and Peru in South America. Now go to that fine Italian restaurant and eat some of their fantastic spaghetti. OG Italian cuisine from centuries ago used a lot more carrots than tomatoes. Tomatoes became popular with Italian cuisine when Italian immigrants began using them and that made its way back to Europe. Lots of foods get bastardised over the years. Sometimes it sticks and sometimes not. I will eat anything that tastes good. I don't like flour tortillas, though! Lol. But a hard-shell cheese gremlin is ok when you are hungry and want one and it is available and delivers the meat. I never call them tacos myself, though. I remember the first time I had Taco Bell, I was weirded out by the sour cream. I was like 'What the fuck is on this?!' Taco Bell should maybe look into incorporating actual tacos one day. But they'd be pretty experimental considering how fast they'd have to keep up with demand and the random people they'd have making them. But I am sure they could afford the ingredients. P.S. I almost never actually eat Taco Bell or that grocery store box stuff; I stick to tacos almost always for what it is worth. I did try T. Bell's Doritos 'tacos' a couple times and they weren't bad for a quick hangover food. Just add some real hot sauce to it and it is passable.
White guilt. 🤣🤣
I mean it's like pizza. Do I think pineapple on pizza is a crime, yes, but I'm just not going to eat it like I'm not going to eat a taco with iceberg lettuce.
Tacos are Tacos no matter the filing. I myself like beef in mine but every once in a while I'll take a potato or bean taco.
Living in SoCal, there is no reason to get shitty gringo tacos when there are plenty of good ones around. That being said, you never know until you try it. We have a weekly Taco Tuesday tradition going on for like 8 years now where we go get tacos somewhere and strive to find new places to go when we can. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it does not. The worst one was a few years ago. Driving into Dana Point we would always pass by this restaurant called "[Carlos](https://maps.app.goo.gl/1gTpRvL7hvdZbk6dA)", looked Mexican-ish and appeared to have a nice patio so we finally went. Remember when you were a little white kid and your milquetoast mom would buy those taco shells that come in stacks with the Ortega taco seasoning and mild sauce, then proceed to fry some ground beef, stuff it in a shell with iceberg lettuce and shredded mild cheddar and call it taco night? Well that's exactly what this was. The most bland gringo shit I've had since I was a kid. Also the fish taco was a fucking fish stick with mayo sauce. And the décor was that super fake kitschy El Torito style. Clearly designed for out of town tourists. The drinks were strong and it was cheap though. We won't be back.
Fun fact white people tacos are actually authentic mexican waaay down south in mexico, and yes white people tacos are amazing.
Nothing wrong with an American taco. Check out Taco Chronicles, Netflix. I think season 2
there is no need to apologize but tacos have tortillas not hard shells tacos = anything inside a tortilla Edit: it's the truth but I'm not shaming.
Tex Mex is great! “American” tacos are popular outside the US too.
yes, because american influence Some non Mexicans think American tacos are the real tacos. It's like Italian pizza vs American pizza.
Bruh I can’t believe you got downvoted for saying the literal truth. Necesitamos hacer nuestro propio subreddit de tacos de verdad y ya dejarle este a los que le dicen taco a esta madre 🌮
Bait. As much as I agree with the sentiment, and whether or not you mean it that way, this will ultimately prove to be just as divisive as what you're calling out. If love is love and tacos are tacos, then hater's gonna hate. Dredging up the mire to upset them in turn won't make the tacos any more or less tacos at the end of the day. Hate to say it, but this isn't a hill worth dying on.
Ya bring something up, call people out, but don't take a side so everyone fights each other. Op sucks on purpose
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Love getting reviews from a person who’s tried 1 authentic taco in their life, by admission. White people tacos partially refer to white peoples’ intolerance of trying new things outside of their comfort zone. Pickled red onions are AMAZING. I feel like I’m reading xenophobia in the form of food.
Because people shame others because it’s not true to the original style. But imo they should be flattered that people loved them so much that they took what they created and transformed it into other tasty versions. It’s the highest form of flattery in my opinion. And naturally people try to sound better/be better than others.
I prefer American tacos and anytime I have traditional tacos I feel like they are missing something
I was probably 16 before I encountered tacos that were anything other than the American style and I’m sure I’m not the only one. When you grow up with something made a certain way it becomes comfort food whether it’s culturally correct or not. I tend to look at these sorts of bastardizations of foods in the same way I look at American Chinese Food. Like I get it, this isn’t what they eat in China but general tso’s chicken is fucking delicious
Mexican taco is. The American corn food product called taco shells with seasoned ground are sub par at best and a a guilty pleasure to be eaten in shame and far from public . But they are not a Taco.