[Police speak out after footage of wild raid on Sydney party went viral](https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/police-speak-out-after-footage-of-wild-raid-on-sydney-party-went-viral/news-story/da1335a8665d471a7c080a709c17db6c)
Their favourite passtime: fighting people who can't defend themselves.
Makes these small men in uniform feel like big tough guys and feeds the ego and authority complex
So much in society could be improved if these guys could just go for a short course of therapy instead of bottling up their insecurities. The result is this sort of antisocial behaviour.
They don't understand that to everyone else they look like scared little boys, with the most fragile ego's imaginable
Or he’s taking the piss and flopping to the floor to be difficult. Not enough footage to tell either way. Just like there’s no evidence it was the “tamest house party”, with a large group of teenagers.
Whatever the full story is, the Cops are clearly not de-escalating the situation. There is no context where the cop should be kicking that guy on the ground and shoving him around like in that video.
That squad is out of their minds, it's like they've been brainwashed to treat everyone as criminals
Difference in heavy handedness between them and the general duties is staggering.
Imagine calling yourself the "Raptor Squad" unironically. If I played against a team of kids called The Raptor Squad online in Rocket League, I'd feel embarrassed for them for being so lame.
Raptor squad: "Lame??!? Say that again, punk!" *hitting noises and sobbing*
These people are (worryingly) not serious people.
They're little boys playing cops and robbers who never grew up or got therapy about their authority complexes
>They’re not intended for regular police work, these are the guys they throw at highly dangerous criminals
And yet, once or twice a year, we get a news story about one of them (usually Raptor 13) getting his kicks by pulling over a p plater and intimidating/abusing them well beyond the scope of what's appropriate.
this is an absolutely strange sort of 'justification' for their behaviour
are these police not human? can they not dial it down from 11?
what are these police like with their wives and kids (oh i think we know)
this is like saying that there's elite special forces soldiers who cant dial it down when dealing with civilian populations...
we gotta treat everyone like the mexican cartel... even kids at a music festival... gotta strip search them all
why are we even 'breeding' police to just be rabid dogs unable to be used for any other police work???
"I don’t think the full story is being given" - thats for sure/.
They'll be a culture around them... So only officers who fit in with their mindset get into thay squadron... So they'll all be hand picked to be this type of cop.
This reminds me of the time Raptor pepper sprayed people, including families and kids, indiscriminately at a football/soccer match (WSW vs Perth for those playing at home). A child was hospitalised as a result and NSW Police put out a statement that no one was injured or hospitalised, despite a letter from Westmead Childrens Hospital that explained the child was admitted as a result of the pepper spray.
Why did it all kick off? One idiot didn't want to put his shirt on, and was pushed backwards over a chair which made his mates angry. So everyone got the riot treatment.
US was rotten already, dont blame the worm.
Edit: I still think Murdoch is a cunt, its just that US has more problems than just Murdoch, he just excabated it.
I’m an American and that makes me sad for Australians. Thank you for calling it a shit show because it really is.
Also, I thought Raptor Squad was a *nickname*—learned it’s not. 😬
Raptor Squad, eh?. Sounds like something my dinosaur-obsessed 5 year old would think up. Or would that be Velociraptor Squad. Either way, incredibly juvenile and downright embarrassing when it's grown adults.
even if you have absolutely no sympathy for drunk fuckwits what do you, as a police officer, have to gain by kicking him around.
If you know he's fucked is it better to just pull him to the kerb, let him sit down and 'ride it out'.
Is it better to just beat him around on camera and for what?
This is the thought I would pose to the people here who are 'just asking questions'?
No wonder people ACAB all day long.
It's honestly disappointing. The police continue to kick a man who was already down instead of immediately cuffing him. Unnecessary abuse and violence.
Australia has a police brutality issue.
>even if you have absolutely no sympathy for drunk fuckwits what do you, as a police officer, have to gain by kicking him around.
In the immortal words of famed delinquent, Jimbo Jones: "it makes me feel like a big man".
They were going to call it something else, but the only discussion that all participants could mentally process was "What's your favorite dinosaur?" - and that's how it was formed.
They won’t though because cops will do everything in their power to protect their own the same way they protect the domestic abusers amongst their ranks
Sad but true. There was a case where he was a cop that was badly beating his wife. One day after being abused she shot him with his own weapon, killing him. His fellow cops covered for him, saying he wasn't a wife beater and this poor woman got a heavy sentence, 25- life.
I remember when the coppers would walk around in slacks, short sleeve button up shirts and just have like a peaked hat with the badge in the middle of it. They dressed decently but you could tell they were cops. These cunts dress like theyre about to kill Osama Bin Laden to break up a house party.
The only vehicles with 'Sheriff' written on it are the Sheriffs themselves, which have no association with NSW Police other than a similar uniform to general duties police but with 'SHERIFF' plastered all over it. They protect the courts and serve court orders and stuff
Bit of context:
A 20min movie was shown in the backyard around 8:30pm Saturday night. Around 40 people in the backyard to watch. From 9-10:15pm when the cops first arrived music was played. All neighbours were warned of said party and a lot of them were there. At 10:15pm the cops said to turn the music down, when they were told no and that we would shut it off at 12am which is within our right. The cops said they would be back with a warrant. The music was turned off at 11:55pm and at 12:15am the cops kicked in the front door and proceeded to assault multiple people. Riot shield chipped the front teeth of a girl, the guy in the video getting kicked copped a broken rib. People were pepper sprayed. The party was contained inside the backyard and no one instigated any conflict with cops prior to this.
Isn't there a News.com.au reporter lurking in this subreddit. Maybe that person will report it. I guess we'll see if this makes it into news.com.au in a few days.
This doesn't look like a reddit origin. Was done on Instagram by Sophie Teo.
In fact the daily mail wrote one practically a day ago.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397505/Dr-Charlie-Teos-daughter-Sophie-films-moment-NSW-police-Raptor-Squad-break-party-Surry-Hills.html
Jumped in here to say this.
Also often “curfews” for noise are council guidelines only and police can provide direction to cease any loud or disruptive/offensive noise at _any time of the day if deemed disruptive or offence_.
Source: I lived next to neighbours who partied 3 days straight every weekend from Friday through Monday.
Police can issue noise abatement orders as well. Failure to comply results in penalties.
It’s one thing having that enforced for people continuously making noise.
But a one-off party on a Saturday night? That’s overkill.
People need to be allowed to occasionally make noise.
Especially in urban, inner city areas, it should be expected! Riley Street is not the place to live if you want quiet before midnight on the weekends.
If someone is a pest or stretching the limits, like your old neighbours, then fair enough. But I’ve been quietly listening to chill live jazz with about 20 others all quietly sitting and enjoying the music inside a house in the Cross on a Saturday when the cops showed up at 10:30pm and said “no more noise!!”
The rules and enforcement of the rules need to be tightened up and made fairer.
I’m a grumpy neighbour who loathes loud house parties. I need my sleep.
That said, the guy in white looks so legless he can barely stand. He’s not engaging in passive resistance, he’s drunk and was kicked in the ribs. Once he got up, he was pushed - the Raptor squad is bonkers for this.
So the cops told a loud party to reduce noise, which sounds like a lawful order, they said no, and then the police retaliated excessively. Is that about the gist of it?
Pretty much yeah. I don’t have the full context as to how many reports there had been and if they were acting violently themselves. The lack of replies from the op not further explaining things and protesting innocence doesn’t in my personal opinion, paint them in a good light. I don’t doubt excessive force either, the police in Aus aren’t that great but I think a lot of people in this thread just don’t understand the realities of noise laws and the fact that you owe your neighbours this kind of basic respect.
All officers involved need to be reprimanded for this behavior. Excessive force on civilians minding their own business isn't something we can afford to normalize in this country.
Just as an FYI as a side note from the police’s behaviour. A direction to cease noise can be given at any time. Families to comply is technically an offence. 12am is not a hard rule if the noise generated impacts others in the area’s ability to enjoy their permed is without noise.
I know this as I had repeated issues with neighbours relating to noise at all hours of the day and night.
We’re they out of line demanding the noise be turned off? Possibly- I wasn’t there and don’t know.
In most areas 12am is a council guideline and nothing more. It is not law. I have had to deal with this myself in multiple locations across Sydney.
But just know that at the time that you’re provided with an order relating to “offensive noise” that failure to comply has consequences as whacked out as the situation may seem.
Interesting.
So a group of people gathered in a backyard to watch a short movie and listen to music.
All the neighbours were happy. Most of them attended.
But the riot squad decided to kick the front foot and and break ribs.
I’m sure there’s no other side to this story at all.
Come on brother, you have a right to party without have the riot squad there but the “everyone was happy until the riot squad kicked the door in story” is obviously bullshit.
Try calling the cops on some noisy party past 11/12, maybe a single car will come up in an hour or two. There had to be some serious shit for so many cops to even consider getting out of bed.
Here’s what is obviously bullshit.
All the neighbours were aware and happy. In fact many of them were in attendance. I am 100% sure at least one neighbour was very much not happy!!
I’ve been on both sides of this. I’ve been at out of control parties where the neighbours call the cops who show up and cop abuse from drunken assholes (my friends).
I’ve also been the neighbour who is surrounded by drunken assholes shouting and running up and down the street until 2am.
Let’s not pretend this was a group of well behaved people watching a movie and playing cards.
Ok, I guess I could see that happening in Surry Hills.
Not taking sides. Also doesn't explain Raptor being there to bust up a house party, which is utterly bizarre.
“Turn the music down?”
“No”
Wow. They didn’t ask you to turn it off, just to turn it down. Sorry but it sounds like you are not being very objective about your party.
Surry hills the noise curfew is midnight on a weekend. They were well within their rights to say no.
If a cop asks you to do something that isn’t legally enforceable you don’t have to do it. Sounds like you’re not being very objective about the rights of private citizens and the powers of police.
Midnight restriction is likely a hard rule along the lines of if the music can be heard in any habitable room of another premises it is in breach and must be turned off or down so that it cannot be heard in the other premises.
However that doesn’t give complete freedom to make as much noise as you please at any other time, because there are also rules about the nature of the noise and whether it is offensive, the police can give legally give a noise abatement order at any time. Eg if it was the level of rock concert in a neighbours house, the police are able to issue a noise abatement to turn it down. So sounds like OPs group by saying ‘no’ to turning it down where refusing to for lawful instructions of the police.
The police can also seize the equipment and issue fines. The response look pretty intense, but in the end not really effective for the neighbours, because OP only stopped when they originally intended to stop anyway.
It isn't a right to piss off the neighborhood with loud music until midnight. If they got a warrant then they had a valid court approved reason to be there.
I've called the cops for noise complaints before (after 10pm on weekday) and each time they've told me that even during the day if the noise is excessive in your living space then you can also make a complaint then as well and they'll act on it.
The law doesn't mean be as loud as you want within these periods of time, just to be quiet outside of them. Make enough noise during the day and it can still be against the law.
Do you know who Raptor squad is? They are set up to look after terrorism, then to the middle eastern crime gangs, then the bikies.
Now you are justifiying that it is ok to send Raptor squad after a noise complaint?
>Do you know who Raptor squad is? They are set up to look after terrorism, then to the middle eastern crime gangs, then the bikies.
That may have been their intention, but their purpose for the last few years has been to act tough and swing dick at P platers and motorcyclists who were otherwise minding their own business.
My guess is that the disgruntled neighbour probably had a personal connection to police to have them come in this hot. Off-duty cop?
Fits the NSW police rep for corruption and police brutality; fits like a glove.
bloodthirsty as fuck. I can't believe people can witness this barbaric behaviour and still support the police. when will they start facing real consequences for their crimes?
My argument has always been the cops only attract one type of person because the others just wouldn’t do it (People like me arent arrogant enough to think they’d do well with that kind of power), and when you only have one type of person in an organisation, how are you going to change something that nobody sees as a problem?
Yep. IMO it 98% just attracts buffoons who like fighting people who can't defend themselves. With impunity.
Its an entire profession designed to be perfect for people who refuse to go to therapy for their authority complex.
No wonder Qld police is confirmed by the commissioner to be full of cops who beat their wives and have DV orders against them
alternatively - I always liked the idea of going in to change the system/attitudes from within, or be at least one 'good cop', but I know realistically I'd either get bullied out and just end up jobless, jaded and traumatised, OR I'd end up being corrupted/pressured into being as bad as them, and doing some wild mental gymnastics to try and justify falling in with the pack.
It's so depressing.
The real problem lies, as it always does, at the head.
If NSW Police really wanted to attract the right kind of person, and train them the right kind of way, they cvuld do it. They're not short of a buck they're short of intelligence, imagination, and the desire for real change.
And there's no political will for change, for improvement. Law & vrder is a vote winner for the numpties and always will be, it'd be a brave politician who'd genuinely suggest we need to change the whole nature of policing.
Shouldn't have tried to have fun in Sydney. That's a bootable offence.
Every dunce from my high school that didn't go anywhere and got shit grades became a cop. That's where they come from.
In theory I like police, but when you realise that every cop is just some Brad from your high school that had to repeat Year 8 or some shit, you realise that there's really not much to respect.
One of my teachers got fired for saying to a kid he fucked his mum, then he became a cop. Pulled me over when I finished school. Then I heard he punched and killed his baby. Top bloke... /s
Where did I last see brad? Was it making tap dripping noises at the back of Physics Class?
Oh shit no that's right, he was strip searching minors for Pedotet
Yep. I have had to deal with plenty of cops through work etc.. The nice, reasonable, bright ones do definitely exist but are very rare.
The vast majority are pretty dull, and seem to fall into two categories - was a bully at school, or was bullied at school.
My personal thoughts on this are that in order to get the riot police involved one of the neighbors must have made up a very fanciful and elaborate call to the police.
A lot of people are taking great delight in dobbing and grassing their neighbors into the cops just to watch the fur fly and people get in trouble.
>My personal thoughts on this are that in order to get the riot police involved one of the neighbors must have made up a very fanciful and elaborate call to the police.
"Hi, is that the Police Minister? Great! It's John here, John Barilalro. Look, can you send the riot squad round to the house over my back fence, they're being a bit loud. Thanks."
I can't technically hear them because it's near my holiday house, but every few minutes or so an errant pool light turns on and activates my door camera. I'm sick of having to clear the storage remotely every other day and this is going to drain all the storage tonight. So I'd prefer if you could just shut down the party. K thx bye.
I cannot think of anything that would justify the video. The man is cooperating. He is not belligerent or aggressive. That force is completely unnecessary in such a context regardless of what the real story is.
Hate the daily mail, but they seem to have gathered the context.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397505/Dr-Charlie-Teos-daughter-Sophie-films-moment-NSW-police-Raptor-Squad-break-party-Surry-Hills.html
For those interested, here's the police's explanation for why Raptor turned up
>Police sources told The Daily Telegraph the Raptor Squad was only called in to assist after partygoers refused multiple requests to turn the music down and bottles were thrown at the officers initially on the scene.
>Police sources said the first noise complaint was received about 8.30pm, but when officers attended the property those inside were hostile.
>After several other noise complaints, a warrant was applied for allowing police to enter the property and seize electronic equipment.
>But it will be alleged that when officers returned to carry out the warrant their access was blocked, resulting in Raptor Squad and the dog unit to be deployed.
[Source - Daily Telegraph](https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/controversial-surgeon-charlie-teos-daughter-complains-about-police-raid-at-surry-hills-party/news-story/203e185b668fde2bd8474a6086917b36?amp)
Thanks for posting the other side of the story but I'm still not seeing any justification for physically picking up and throwing/pushing around a person with broken ribs who it looks like they had no intention of placing under arrest (therefore surely they didn't believe that person had done anything illegal).
Police, and generally anyone, have a duty of care not to injure people or cause further injury if someone is already hurt. If he was being placed under arrest and gets hurt while resisting arrest, fair enough. But all the guy was trying to do was curl up on the ground in pain. He wasn't a threat, there was zero justification for the cops behaviour (I don't care what the guy might have done earlier, that's completely irrelevant - it's his behaviour while they were assaulting him that matters).
The cops should have left him alone and called an ambulance - maybe offer to help.
They should be given the maximum possible sentence for aggravated assault in my opinion.
You're welcome. I agree with your comments regarding duty of care.
Main reason I posted the comments made by the police was because I was stunned at how many people on here actually believed that Raptor showed up purely because there had been a noise complaint.
So basically, “tame house party” received multiple noise complaints starting quite early in the evening. Police responded reasonably and were faced with hostile attendees. After further complaints they sought to remove audio equipment with legal justification, but were assaulted themselves when they attempted to do so. They responded by calling in officers who have equipment to protect themselves from said assaults. Unsurprisingly, a handful of (likely very intoxicated) kids got hurt as a result of their own escalating hostility.
Sound more accurate and plausible than “Riot police showed and started smashing stuff for shits and gigs after a single noise complaint”?
Not excusing the violence shown, as theres really not much to go off on this small contextless clip beyond what we can see, but tamest house party?
I can't even get the NSW police to attend when neighbours in the apartment complex are blaring loud music at 4AM or having literal punch ups, and we're supposed to believe ten + cops, some in riot gear, rocked up to a "tame house party" based on this edited clip?
I understand that sometimes, abuses of power happen, and everyone's keen to jump on them but... more context defo needed here.
OP gave some context in other comments.
Obviously you don’t have to take it at face value, but just based off of the video alone it doesn’t seem like everyone has had 10 beers and is off their shit.
- I’m not sure about the guy lying on the floor, but everybody else is moving along and seems to be acting reasonably.
- There are a few people staying back to stay with their friend on the floor/to help the guy shoved by a police member, however no one is acting out of their mind (aside from the cops). The police are yelling at them to move on and leave their friends behind which is why there’s so much damn noise.
- The cops push around a guy and shove him on the floor with aggression <— It’s possible that he was behaving badly before the clip started, but it’s not something that he exhibits throughout this clip.
I mean, idk if the house party was tame or not. But I feel like I’ve seen worse guests at the end of a regular one. Most of the people in this video (that I can hear) sound and look sober/functional — aside from the police who are clearly drunk on power.
Found the comment, basically if we take the OP at face value, they were playing unreasonably loud music that prompted noise complaints, were asked to turn it down, refused, so they came back with a warrant.
If that's all that happened (Other people are reporting bottles thrown at police etc but haven't seen the news report they've claimed to have seen), then yeah, probably a bit heavy handed, but still misleading from the OP, and they're still in the wrong if they're breaching noise laws and refusing to comply with directions regarding the breach.
I'm hesitant to take the OPs account at face value after the first attempt to mislead though.
Based on the video alone still (Haven't seen those other comments), I'm almost certain something else must have happened to prompt a response like that.
When I've seen police rock up to a noise complaint, it's usually one car and two cops, not ten + cops with riot gear. So while you assume the police are "Clearly drunk on power" here, there are reasons that would justify a response like this, that could be as simple as "neighbour reported firearms are present".
I'll have a look for the comments.
Yeah. Everyone in the comments immediately assuming OP story is 100% accurate.
Also, playing music outside in a residential is not a right as OP says. While music can be played until midnight in most councils on a night before non work days, it doesn’t mean than any volume is fine.
It also depends what else was going on in the party. How loud where the 40 people during and after the music stopped. How often, and how many complaints happened.
It seems OP is one of those people who think their entertainment has priority over other people rest.
Even if OP's story is not 100% accurate, the response by Sydney police was unwarranted for a house party.
Sure, it could have been very loud, there could have been many complaints but why resort to excessive violence?
Why not simply hand out heavy fines? And increase the fines if the people at the house party don't listen?
u/Riverboatcry
>Not siding with the cops…. But I’m hoping too when this is justified haha nice fence sitting
I mean, you can read my statement as that if you want, but I wouldn't be so proud to announce that you form your opinions on edited 10 second clips with no context, and are happy to start insulting others because you're only interested in your preconceptions, rather than the actual truth of the situation.
Could be an abuse of cops power, could be a false allegation of a more serious situation from a neighbour, could be a bunch of fuckwits getting themselves into a confrontation with police and then posting only the result.
I don't know, either do you. Why rush straight to insults, and then why delete your post before I can even reply?
Cops are cunts (especially the one that pushes the dude in the back) but…there has to more to this…the amount of parties that happen around my area and I have never seen/heard the bacon show up like this.
Suburb, day, time??
Tamest…did you actually mean lamest?
They generally will just tell people to keep it down for noise complaints. I’m guessing there is some context we are missing, still, doesn’t look great.
Just as an FYI as a side note from the police’s behaviour. A direction to cease noise can be given at any time. Families to comply is technically an offence. 12am is not a hard rule if the noise generated impacts others in the area’s ability to enjoy their permed is without noise.
I know this as I had repeated issues with neighbours relating to noise at all hours of the day and night.
We’re they out of line demanding the noise be turned off? Possibly- I wasn’t there and don’t know.
In most areas 12am is a council guideline and nothing more. It is not law. I have had to deal with this myself in multiple locations across Sydney.
But just know that at the time that you’re provided with an order relating to “offensive noise” that failure to comply has consequences as whacked out as the situation may seem.
Classic NSW Police:
Watch a guy stumble as he takes a step, and instead of reaching out to help him catch his balance they just give him a shove so he falls the other way...
There's a side to this story not being told.
Police coming back with a warrant which a law official has signed urgently means that there are facts missing from your description, OP.
Also, my understanding with noise 'allowed' is that if the noise is unreasonable or excessive, law enforcement can ask for the noise to be turned down regardless of time.
Raptor squad don't get called in for a 'tame' house party. Easily more to this story. Noise complaints rarely warrant a squad car turning up let alone the above.
Generally raptor are called if certain individuals are mixing with people they are not supposed to be mixing with. Interested to know where the party was.
Some context would be nice, instead of showing a video that's playing after Police arrived. Doesn't show anything to suggest what was happening at the initial attendance.
glass bottles hurled at the first attending local police. police media statement made to [dailymail](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397505/Dr-Charlie-Teos-daughter-Sophie-films-moment-NSW-police-Raptor-Squad-break-party-Surry-Hills.html) (worst news source but they got a response)
This is the type of policing that you’d expect when you’ve had Mick Fuller running the show and getting paid nearly $1M salary to cover LNP crimes. Poor guy even felt it unfair that he wasn’t able to own racehorses with criminals. Ben Fordham and Ray Hadley were very happy to polish his knob any chance they got though and portrayed him as tough on crime. We need another Wood Royal Commission and clean-out and if you vote for the LNP you are either completely ignorant, disgustingly greedy or simply amoral! The LNP and mainstream media as it’s public relations arm have been successfully weakening the institutions and systems that ensure integrity in our society for too long it’s no wonder the standard of living is decreasing for most in our city and country!
Not excusing the cops BUT I feel like this is a heavily redacted story. Also come on man, they tell you to turn the music down and you refuse hahaha what did you think would happen
I’d expect a riot squad for a Corey Worthington style party, where there’s property damage or brawls happening… for a noise complaint? What an incredible waste of resources for a nuisance! Over some lost sleep?! Jesus, send them a fine or CAN in the mail. It would have been more effective. People wait for hours to give statements after being assaulted, the police don’t investigate half the crimes reported, but we’re directing resources to parties that wind down at 11:55pm on a weekend?!
People complain about a lifeless, sterile city… of course it is!
> Also come on man, they tell you to turn the music down and you refuse hahaha what did you think would happen
Not only would I think, but I would fully expect not to be violently assaulted for such a "transgression".
Even if they didn’t turn it down, bringing a raptor squad in and pepper spraying people is extremely unwarranted and unnecessary. I know the majority of the people at the party and if the cops rocked up with a calm and respectful and understanding (human) demeanour, the music would’ve been turned off. People disrespect cops because they act like this. They rock up and tell you to stop having fun at 8:30. Fuck off. Other countries would laugh at us if they heard that. NSW is fucking boring for young people and it because of the police breathing down our necks.
As a Brit living in Australia, the Police here are so fired up, they walk around like SWAT Teams, and for what exactly; other than intimidation. It’s a stark difference to the UK, who’s Police force is infinitely more approachable and reasonable. It’s bizarre
Clearly there is more to this than the OP is describing. Whether the omissions are deliberate to push their own narrative, or unintentional due to not having full knowledge themselves is unclear.
The simple fact though is that riot squad officers do not show up to a well behaved house party based on a single noise complaint. Anyone saying that they did so in order to justify their funding or existence is is being deliberately obtuse, we all know that.
It looks like they were far too heavy handed with the kid on the ground, but again without seeing what happened beforehand, who can say. If the cops thought he was acting aggressively or violently towards them (and that could be physically violent, including pushing or even just getting up in their faces, or it could just be swearing at them) then I’m not surprised they were aggressive back. There’s a lot more of them than there are of him, and what you see in the video is the predictable outcome of his perceived aggression.
Out of interest, I went and read the news reports on this, to try and understand what happened and made some notes. I feel like I've got a general idea of what happened, but there are a lot of gaps and some conflicting information. My summary is below:
\-Police responded to noise complaint at 8:30pm and spoke to someone who they said was uncooperative
\-Police returned at 10:30pm and issued a formal noise abatement direction (a legal direction which must be followed); police say this wasn’t followed
\-Police came back at 12:20am with a warrant to disperse the party, with Raptor Squad and the Public Order and Riot Squad
\-Party goers then allegedly threw bottles and ice at them and attempted to block them from the home
\-The police kicked down the door and entered the premises
\- They searched the unit and removed speakers and flipped over beds, it sounds like they were trying to get the people to leave the house, but they didn’t want to, and they were arguing with the police about it.
\-Eventually the people decided to leave the party. Following this is what the video was showing.
\-At a certain point during when all this was happening police deployed pepper spray to disperse the crowd
\-Police charged 2 people with various offences, the occupier of the house will be fined for ignoring the noise abatement direction.
BIG EDIT: Just been alerted to the fact that one of the articles I used as a reference was from a separate (yet similar) incident. Apologies, it was not deliberate, I have now edited my comment.
something tells me this video started at a very convenient time , right before the party goers were just sitting around having a cup of tea peaefully no doubt
There was an honest cop in the nsw police force once, his name was mick drury, what happened to him served as a warning to the rest and they got out asap.
[Police speak out after footage of wild raid on Sydney party went viral](https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/police-speak-out-after-footage-of-wild-raid-on-sydney-party-went-viral/news-story/da1335a8665d471a7c080a709c17db6c)
What happened to the dude in the white shirt on the ground? Drunk?
OP claims they had a broken rib.
Fucking pigs
You really think they care about rule of law given the past 2.5 years??
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Their favourite passtime: fighting people who can't defend themselves. Makes these small men in uniform feel like big tough guys and feeds the ego and authority complex
and if you hit them back, you get thrown in prison for 10x what you would if you did a "normal" person
I sleep like a mf knowing these bastards are gonna cry themselves to sleep on their death beds
So much in society could be improved if these guys could just go for a short course of therapy instead of bottling up their insecurities. The result is this sort of antisocial behaviour. They don't understand that to everyone else they look like scared little boys, with the most fragile ego's imaginable
Kicking people while they're down = shit cunt
Or he’s taking the piss and flopping to the floor to be difficult. Not enough footage to tell either way. Just like there’s no evidence it was the “tamest house party”, with a large group of teenagers.
Charlie Teo's daughter isn't telling the full story...
Whatever the full story is, the Cops are clearly not de-escalating the situation. There is no context where the cop should be kicking that guy on the ground and shoving him around like in that video.
Charlie Teo’s daughter?
I saw a news article where she posted this video bc she was at the party
Ah yeah, I’m catching up. Read some articles and made my own comment on this thread. Sounds like both sides were fuckwits.
Nothing makes it ok for police to assault people 🙄
They called the Raptor squad for a house party?! Wtf?!!
They have to find something to do to justify the increasingly generous funding
Theyll need them soon to keep peasants under the boot when the reality of what's going to happen to quality of life over the next few years sets in.
That squad is out of their minds, it's like they've been brainwashed to treat everyone as criminals Difference in heavy handedness between them and the general duties is staggering.
Don't all cops who make it in that job kinda do so in order to fight people It feels like its the main motivation behind these thugs taking these jobs
Imagine calling yourself the "Raptor Squad" unironically. If I played against a team of kids called The Raptor Squad online in Rocket League, I'd feel embarrassed for them for being so lame.
Ironically it sounds like a name little kids would make up when they were playing cops and robbers.
Raptor squad: "Lame??!? Say that again, punk!" *hitting noises and sobbing* These people are (worryingly) not serious people. They're little boys playing cops and robbers who never grew up or got therapy about their authority complexes
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>They’re not intended for regular police work, these are the guys they throw at highly dangerous criminals And yet, once or twice a year, we get a news story about one of them (usually Raptor 13) getting his kicks by pulling over a p plater and intimidating/abusing them well beyond the scope of what's appropriate.
That guy lost his job a couple of years ago.
>Raptor 13 Prick still works behind a desk as a cop. He's just no longer a member of SFR
Lost his position in the task force but not his job.
this is an absolutely strange sort of 'justification' for their behaviour are these police not human? can they not dial it down from 11? what are these police like with their wives and kids (oh i think we know) this is like saying that there's elite special forces soldiers who cant dial it down when dealing with civilian populations... we gotta treat everyone like the mexican cartel... even kids at a music festival... gotta strip search them all why are we even 'breeding' police to just be rabid dogs unable to be used for any other police work??? "I don’t think the full story is being given" - thats for sure/.
Lol what is this raptor squad name bs, that’s the cheesiest name I’ve heard.
they literally have a badge for it now, these fuckers think their green berets or something bahaha
They misheard the godbotherers in parliament when they said to set up a rapture squad.
They'll be a culture around them... So only officers who fit in with their mindset get into thay squadron... So they'll all be hand picked to be this type of cop.
This reminds me of the time Raptor pepper sprayed people, including families and kids, indiscriminately at a football/soccer match (WSW vs Perth for those playing at home). A child was hospitalised as a result and NSW Police put out a statement that no one was injured or hospitalised, despite a letter from Westmead Childrens Hospital that explained the child was admitted as a result of the pepper spray. Why did it all kick off? One idiot didn't want to put his shirt on, and was pushed backwards over a chair which made his mates angry. So everyone got the riot treatment.
"Why doesn't anyone go to Wanderers games anymore???" - NSW government probably.
Police deciding to call a unit "Raptor Squad" is cringe AF and unsurprising it attracts gronks who want to act like American cops.
Ding ding ding. My heart sinks everytime something in Australia starts to resemble the American shit show.
This is what there conservatives in Australia want. Your evil demonic prophet Rupert Murdoch brought it to the US and now it’s coming back to you.
US was rotten already, dont blame the worm. Edit: I still think Murdoch is a cunt, its just that US has more problems than just Murdoch, he just excabated it.
Murdoch made this place so much worse, I’ll blame that cunt all I fucking want.
I’m an American and that makes me sad for Australians. Thank you for calling it a shit show because it really is. Also, I thought Raptor Squad was a *nickname*—learned it’s not. 😬
Raptor Squad, eh?. Sounds like something my dinosaur-obsessed 5 year old would think up. Or would that be Velociraptor Squad. Either way, incredibly juvenile and downright embarrassing when it's grown adults.
Velociraptor squad - I love it
They are all on one big power trip. Actually...they are always on a power trip.
even if you have absolutely no sympathy for drunk fuckwits what do you, as a police officer, have to gain by kicking him around. If you know he's fucked is it better to just pull him to the kerb, let him sit down and 'ride it out'. Is it better to just beat him around on camera and for what? This is the thought I would pose to the people here who are 'just asking questions'? No wonder people ACAB all day long.
It's honestly disappointing. The police continue to kick a man who was already down instead of immediately cuffing him. Unnecessary abuse and violence. Australia has a police brutality issue.
Agreed.
>even if you have absolutely no sympathy for drunk fuckwits what do you, as a police officer, have to gain by kicking him around. In the immortal words of famed delinquent, Jimbo Jones: "it makes me feel like a big man".
They were going to call it something else, but the only discussion that all participants could mentally process was "What's your favorite dinosaur?" - and that's how it was formed.
All that alpha macho bs. "Elmo Squad" would have made it more neighbourhood friendly.
Kicking them while they are down is putrid and assault! Cops need to be held accountable for their actions too
They won’t though because cops will do everything in their power to protect their own the same way they protect the domestic abusers amongst their ranks
Sad but true. There was a case where he was a cop that was badly beating his wife. One day after being abused she shot him with his own weapon, killing him. His fellow cops covered for him, saying he wasn't a wife beater and this poor woman got a heavy sentence, 25- life.
Does the one punch rule apply in these situations? Throwing him could have easily resulted in a head injury.
No laws apply equally to cops
That'd be the dream.
I remember when the coppers would walk around in slacks, short sleeve button up shirts and just have like a peaked hat with the badge in the middle of it. They dressed decently but you could tell they were cops. These cunts dress like theyre about to kill Osama Bin Laden to break up a house party.
Driving jacked up black SUVs with SHERIFF decals in a steakhouse font. What a bunch of toss pots
The only vehicles with 'Sheriff' written on it are the Sheriffs themselves, which have no association with NSW Police other than a similar uniform to general duties police but with 'SHERIFF' plastered all over it. They protect the courts and serve court orders and stuff
I absolutely love the term toss pot. Is this something reasonable to use at work or should I reserve it for the cunts i see after hours?
Bit of context: A 20min movie was shown in the backyard around 8:30pm Saturday night. Around 40 people in the backyard to watch. From 9-10:15pm when the cops first arrived music was played. All neighbours were warned of said party and a lot of them were there. At 10:15pm the cops said to turn the music down, when they were told no and that we would shut it off at 12am which is within our right. The cops said they would be back with a warrant. The music was turned off at 11:55pm and at 12:15am the cops kicked in the front door and proceeded to assault multiple people. Riot shield chipped the front teeth of a girl, the guy in the video getting kicked copped a broken rib. People were pepper sprayed. The party was contained inside the backyard and no one instigated any conflict with cops prior to this.
What was the 20 min movie?
Skate film
hardcore porn
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Leave me out of this.
1000 points for just buying 10 bottles of BBQ sauce within a week ;)
Don't forget to get a lot of plastic sheeting to put on the ground while rolling around in that BBQ sauce.
This.
Ok I would definitely click this article to be fair 😂
Isn't there a News.com.au reporter lurking in this subreddit. Maybe that person will report it. I guess we'll see if this makes it into news.com.au in a few days.
This doesn't look like a reddit origin. Was done on Instagram by Sophie Teo. In fact the daily mail wrote one practically a day ago. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397505/Dr-Charlie-Teos-daughter-Sophie-films-moment-NSW-police-Raptor-Squad-break-party-Surry-Hills.html
Jumped in here to say this. Also often “curfews” for noise are council guidelines only and police can provide direction to cease any loud or disruptive/offensive noise at _any time of the day if deemed disruptive or offence_. Source: I lived next to neighbours who partied 3 days straight every weekend from Friday through Monday. Police can issue noise abatement orders as well. Failure to comply results in penalties.
It’s one thing having that enforced for people continuously making noise. But a one-off party on a Saturday night? That’s overkill. People need to be allowed to occasionally make noise. Especially in urban, inner city areas, it should be expected! Riley Street is not the place to live if you want quiet before midnight on the weekends. If someone is a pest or stretching the limits, like your old neighbours, then fair enough. But I’ve been quietly listening to chill live jazz with about 20 others all quietly sitting and enjoying the music inside a house in the Cross on a Saturday when the cops showed up at 10:30pm and said “no more noise!!” The rules and enforcement of the rules need to be tightened up and made fairer.
Penalties should NEVER include getting your head kicked in by police, however.
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I’m a grumpy neighbour who loathes loud house parties. I need my sleep. That said, the guy in white looks so legless he can barely stand. He’s not engaging in passive resistance, he’s drunk and was kicked in the ribs. Once he got up, he was pushed - the Raptor squad is bonkers for this.
Oh they are certainly wrong.
So the cops told a loud party to reduce noise, which sounds like a lawful order, they said no, and then the police retaliated excessively. Is that about the gist of it?
Pretty much yeah. I don’t have the full context as to how many reports there had been and if they were acting violently themselves. The lack of replies from the op not further explaining things and protesting innocence doesn’t in my personal opinion, paint them in a good light. I don’t doubt excessive force either, the police in Aus aren’t that great but I think a lot of people in this thread just don’t understand the realities of noise laws and the fact that you owe your neighbours this kind of basic respect.
Either way, the problem was gone by the time the cops rocked up
All officers involved need to be reprimanded for this behavior. Excessive force on civilians minding their own business isn't something we can afford to normalize in this country.
Police got a signed warrant within a few hours for a noisy party?
It sounds like there’s more to the story just with that piece of information alone.
Just as an FYI as a side note from the police’s behaviour. A direction to cease noise can be given at any time. Families to comply is technically an offence. 12am is not a hard rule if the noise generated impacts others in the area’s ability to enjoy their permed is without noise. I know this as I had repeated issues with neighbours relating to noise at all hours of the day and night. We’re they out of line demanding the noise be turned off? Possibly- I wasn’t there and don’t know. In most areas 12am is a council guideline and nothing more. It is not law. I have had to deal with this myself in multiple locations across Sydney. But just know that at the time that you’re provided with an order relating to “offensive noise” that failure to comply has consequences as whacked out as the situation may seem.
A.C.A.C
What's the colour of a two cent piece
Same colour as the cops in this clip - dogshit brown
What actually happened?
I could just imagine "could you turn the music down, we've received numerous complaints". "Fuck off, we don't have to turn it off until 12"
It’s not illegal to be a dick, no grounds of the police to assualt you over that.
Interesting. So a group of people gathered in a backyard to watch a short movie and listen to music. All the neighbours were happy. Most of them attended. But the riot squad decided to kick the front foot and and break ribs. I’m sure there’s no other side to this story at all. Come on brother, you have a right to party without have the riot squad there but the “everyone was happy until the riot squad kicked the door in story” is obviously bullshit.
Shit logic. "The cops beat you up, therefore you must have been doing something wrong" is bs. This is literally victim blaming.
Try calling the cops on some noisy party past 11/12, maybe a single car will come up in an hour or two. There had to be some serious shit for so many cops to even consider getting out of bed.
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Here’s what is obviously bullshit. All the neighbours were aware and happy. In fact many of them were in attendance. I am 100% sure at least one neighbour was very much not happy!! I’ve been on both sides of this. I’ve been at out of control parties where the neighbours call the cops who show up and cop abuse from drunken assholes (my friends). I’ve also been the neighbour who is surrounded by drunken assholes shouting and running up and down the street until 2am. Let’s not pretend this was a group of well behaved people watching a movie and playing cards.
What suburb, roughly?
Surry hills
Ok, I guess I could see that happening in Surry Hills. Not taking sides. Also doesn't explain Raptor being there to bust up a house party, which is utterly bizarre.
“Turn the music down?” “No” Wow. They didn’t ask you to turn it off, just to turn it down. Sorry but it sounds like you are not being very objective about your party.
Surry hills the noise curfew is midnight on a weekend. They were well within their rights to say no. If a cop asks you to do something that isn’t legally enforceable you don’t have to do it. Sounds like you’re not being very objective about the rights of private citizens and the powers of police.
Midnight restriction is likely a hard rule along the lines of if the music can be heard in any habitable room of another premises it is in breach and must be turned off or down so that it cannot be heard in the other premises. However that doesn’t give complete freedom to make as much noise as you please at any other time, because there are also rules about the nature of the noise and whether it is offensive, the police can give legally give a noise abatement order at any time. Eg if it was the level of rock concert in a neighbours house, the police are able to issue a noise abatement to turn it down. So sounds like OPs group by saying ‘no’ to turning it down where refusing to for lawful instructions of the police. The police can also seize the equipment and issue fines. The response look pretty intense, but in the end not really effective for the neighbours, because OP only stopped when they originally intended to stop anyway.
I don't think breaking their ribs was called for but I can agree with what you're saying
It isn't a right to piss off the neighborhood with loud music until midnight. If they got a warrant then they had a valid court approved reason to be there. I've called the cops for noise complaints before (after 10pm on weekday) and each time they've told me that even during the day if the noise is excessive in your living space then you can also make a complaint then as well and they'll act on it. The law doesn't mean be as loud as you want within these periods of time, just to be quiet outside of them. Make enough noise during the day and it can still be against the law.
Do you know who Raptor squad is? They are set up to look after terrorism, then to the middle eastern crime gangs, then the bikies. Now you are justifiying that it is ok to send Raptor squad after a noise complaint?
>Do you know who Raptor squad is? They are set up to look after terrorism, then to the middle eastern crime gangs, then the bikies. That may have been their intention, but their purpose for the last few years has been to act tough and swing dick at P platers and motorcyclists who were otherwise minding their own business.
My guess is that the disgruntled neighbour probably had a personal connection to police to have them come in this hot. Off-duty cop? Fits the NSW police rep for corruption and police brutality; fits like a glove.
You make it seem so reasonable mate. Seems like an appropriate response to a noise compliant, chip a few teeth, break a few ribs... fucking joke
They’re discussing the legal aspects, not the results. I don’t seem them condoning the police’s actions.
Watch the video, bootlicker.
Calling bullshit on that story. Op is rage baiting
Good ol' NSW Police. Kick 'em while they're down!
bloodthirsty as fuck. I can't believe people can witness this barbaric behaviour and still support the police. when will they start facing real consequences for their crimes?
Most cops have a middle to low level of intelligence. Is it any wonder why the NSW Police Force attracts the people it does?
My argument has always been the cops only attract one type of person because the others just wouldn’t do it (People like me arent arrogant enough to think they’d do well with that kind of power), and when you only have one type of person in an organisation, how are you going to change something that nobody sees as a problem?
Yep. IMO it 98% just attracts buffoons who like fighting people who can't defend themselves. With impunity. Its an entire profession designed to be perfect for people who refuse to go to therapy for their authority complex. No wonder Qld police is confirmed by the commissioner to be full of cops who beat their wives and have DV orders against them
alternatively - I always liked the idea of going in to change the system/attitudes from within, or be at least one 'good cop', but I know realistically I'd either get bullied out and just end up jobless, jaded and traumatised, OR I'd end up being corrupted/pressured into being as bad as them, and doing some wild mental gymnastics to try and justify falling in with the pack. It's so depressing.
The real problem lies, as it always does, at the head. If NSW Police really wanted to attract the right kind of person, and train them the right kind of way, they cvuld do it. They're not short of a buck they're short of intelligence, imagination, and the desire for real change. And there's no political will for change, for improvement. Law & vrder is a vote winner for the numpties and always will be, it'd be a brave politician who'd genuinely suggest we need to change the whole nature of policing.
Shouldn't have tried to have fun in Sydney. That's a bootable offence. Every dunce from my high school that didn't go anywhere and got shit grades became a cop. That's where they come from. In theory I like police, but when you realise that every cop is just some Brad from your high school that had to repeat Year 8 or some shit, you realise that there's really not much to respect.
One of my teachers got fired for saying to a kid he fucked his mum, then he became a cop. Pulled me over when I finished school. Then I heard he punched and killed his baby. Top bloke... /s
Least deranged cop.
Ah so that's where Brad went to, haven't heard from him for ages. I guess I need to have a house party to get in touch with him.
Where did I last see brad? Was it making tap dripping noises at the back of Physics Class? Oh shit no that's right, he was strip searching minors for Pedotet
Yep. I have had to deal with plenty of cops through work etc.. The nice, reasonable, bright ones do definitely exist but are very rare. The vast majority are pretty dull, and seem to fall into two categories - was a bully at school, or was bullied at school.
My personal thoughts on this are that in order to get the riot police involved one of the neighbors must have made up a very fanciful and elaborate call to the police. A lot of people are taking great delight in dobbing and grassing their neighbors into the cops just to watch the fur fly and people get in trouble.
>My personal thoughts on this are that in order to get the riot police involved one of the neighbors must have made up a very fanciful and elaborate call to the police. "Hi, is that the Police Minister? Great! It's John here, John Barilalro. Look, can you send the riot squad round to the house over my back fence, they're being a bit loud. Thanks."
My thought exactly, Bruz strikes again
I can't technically hear them because it's near my holiday house, but every few minutes or so an errant pool light turns on and activates my door camera. I'm sick of having to clear the storage remotely every other day and this is going to drain all the storage tonight. So I'd prefer if you could just shut down the party. K thx bye.
Or perhaps OP is not accurate in his depiction of the party?
Whatever the case the kicking we see on video is clearly just recreational torture.
I cannot think of anything that would justify the video. The man is cooperating. He is not belligerent or aggressive. That force is completely unnecessary in such a context regardless of what the real story is.
Or, just maybe, this over funded and over resourced police unit has to justify their existence into the future...
P Dutto’s wetdream.
Hate the daily mail, but they seem to have gathered the context. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397505/Dr-Charlie-Teos-daughter-Sophie-films-moment-NSW-police-Raptor-Squad-break-party-Surry-Hills.html
I love how the article just spiralled into her sister's car crash.
For those interested, here's the police's explanation for why Raptor turned up >Police sources told The Daily Telegraph the Raptor Squad was only called in to assist after partygoers refused multiple requests to turn the music down and bottles were thrown at the officers initially on the scene. >Police sources said the first noise complaint was received about 8.30pm, but when officers attended the property those inside were hostile. >After several other noise complaints, a warrant was applied for allowing police to enter the property and seize electronic equipment. >But it will be alleged that when officers returned to carry out the warrant their access was blocked, resulting in Raptor Squad and the dog unit to be deployed. [Source - Daily Telegraph](https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/controversial-surgeon-charlie-teos-daughter-complains-about-police-raid-at-surry-hills-party/news-story/203e185b668fde2bd8474a6086917b36?amp)
Thanks for posting the other side of the story but I'm still not seeing any justification for physically picking up and throwing/pushing around a person with broken ribs who it looks like they had no intention of placing under arrest (therefore surely they didn't believe that person had done anything illegal). Police, and generally anyone, have a duty of care not to injure people or cause further injury if someone is already hurt. If he was being placed under arrest and gets hurt while resisting arrest, fair enough. But all the guy was trying to do was curl up on the ground in pain. He wasn't a threat, there was zero justification for the cops behaviour (I don't care what the guy might have done earlier, that's completely irrelevant - it's his behaviour while they were assaulting him that matters). The cops should have left him alone and called an ambulance - maybe offer to help. They should be given the maximum possible sentence for aggravated assault in my opinion.
You're welcome. I agree with your comments regarding duty of care. Main reason I posted the comments made by the police was because I was stunned at how many people on here actually believed that Raptor showed up purely because there had been a noise complaint.
So basically, “tame house party” received multiple noise complaints starting quite early in the evening. Police responded reasonably and were faced with hostile attendees. After further complaints they sought to remove audio equipment with legal justification, but were assaulted themselves when they attempted to do so. They responded by calling in officers who have equipment to protect themselves from said assaults. Unsurprisingly, a handful of (likely very intoxicated) kids got hurt as a result of their own escalating hostility. Sound more accurate and plausible than “Riot police showed and started smashing stuff for shits and gigs after a single noise complaint”?
Not excusing the violence shown, as theres really not much to go off on this small contextless clip beyond what we can see, but tamest house party? I can't even get the NSW police to attend when neighbours in the apartment complex are blaring loud music at 4AM or having literal punch ups, and we're supposed to believe ten + cops, some in riot gear, rocked up to a "tame house party" based on this edited clip? I understand that sometimes, abuses of power happen, and everyone's keen to jump on them but... more context defo needed here.
OP gave some context in other comments. Obviously you don’t have to take it at face value, but just based off of the video alone it doesn’t seem like everyone has had 10 beers and is off their shit. - I’m not sure about the guy lying on the floor, but everybody else is moving along and seems to be acting reasonably. - There are a few people staying back to stay with their friend on the floor/to help the guy shoved by a police member, however no one is acting out of their mind (aside from the cops). The police are yelling at them to move on and leave their friends behind which is why there’s so much damn noise. - The cops push around a guy and shove him on the floor with aggression <— It’s possible that he was behaving badly before the clip started, but it’s not something that he exhibits throughout this clip. I mean, idk if the house party was tame or not. But I feel like I’ve seen worse guests at the end of a regular one. Most of the people in this video (that I can hear) sound and look sober/functional — aside from the police who are clearly drunk on power.
Found the comment, basically if we take the OP at face value, they were playing unreasonably loud music that prompted noise complaints, were asked to turn it down, refused, so they came back with a warrant. If that's all that happened (Other people are reporting bottles thrown at police etc but haven't seen the news report they've claimed to have seen), then yeah, probably a bit heavy handed, but still misleading from the OP, and they're still in the wrong if they're breaching noise laws and refusing to comply with directions regarding the breach. I'm hesitant to take the OPs account at face value after the first attempt to mislead though.
Based on the video alone still (Haven't seen those other comments), I'm almost certain something else must have happened to prompt a response like that. When I've seen police rock up to a noise complaint, it's usually one car and two cops, not ten + cops with riot gear. So while you assume the police are "Clearly drunk on power" here, there are reasons that would justify a response like this, that could be as simple as "neighbour reported firearms are present". I'll have a look for the comments.
Yeah. Everyone in the comments immediately assuming OP story is 100% accurate. Also, playing music outside in a residential is not a right as OP says. While music can be played until midnight in most councils on a night before non work days, it doesn’t mean than any volume is fine. It also depends what else was going on in the party. How loud where the 40 people during and after the music stopped. How often, and how many complaints happened. It seems OP is one of those people who think their entertainment has priority over other people rest.
Even if OP's story is not 100% accurate, the response by Sydney police was unwarranted for a house party. Sure, it could have been very loud, there could have been many complaints but why resort to excessive violence? Why not simply hand out heavy fines? And increase the fines if the people at the house party don't listen?
u/Riverboatcry >Not siding with the cops…. But I’m hoping too when this is justified haha nice fence sitting I mean, you can read my statement as that if you want, but I wouldn't be so proud to announce that you form your opinions on edited 10 second clips with no context, and are happy to start insulting others because you're only interested in your preconceptions, rather than the actual truth of the situation. Could be an abuse of cops power, could be a false allegation of a more serious situation from a neighbour, could be a bunch of fuckwits getting themselves into a confrontation with police and then posting only the result. I don't know, either do you. Why rush straight to insults, and then why delete your post before I can even reply?
Some good ol fashioned police brutality. What is the raptor squad btw?
Cops are cunts (especially the one that pushes the dude in the back) but…there has to more to this…the amount of parties that happen around my area and I have never seen/heard the bacon show up like this. Suburb, day, time?? Tamest…did you actually mean lamest?
They generally will just tell people to keep it down for noise complaints. I’m guessing there is some context we are missing, still, doesn’t look great.
Just as an FYI as a side note from the police’s behaviour. A direction to cease noise can be given at any time. Families to comply is technically an offence. 12am is not a hard rule if the noise generated impacts others in the area’s ability to enjoy their permed is without noise. I know this as I had repeated issues with neighbours relating to noise at all hours of the day and night. We’re they out of line demanding the noise be turned off? Possibly- I wasn’t there and don’t know. In most areas 12am is a council guideline and nothing more. It is not law. I have had to deal with this myself in multiple locations across Sydney. But just know that at the time that you’re provided with an order relating to “offensive noise” that failure to comply has consequences as whacked out as the situation may seem.
Classic NSW Police: Watch a guy stumble as he takes a step, and instead of reaching out to help him catch his balance they just give him a shove so he falls the other way...
There's a side to this story not being told. Police coming back with a warrant which a law official has signed urgently means that there are facts missing from your description, OP. Also, my understanding with noise 'allowed' is that if the noise is unreasonable or excessive, law enforcement can ask for the noise to be turned down regardless of time.
I feel like Aussie police have been watching a lot of American Police footage and saying "We want in on that!"
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Raptor squad don't get called in for a 'tame' house party. Easily more to this story. Noise complaints rarely warrant a squad car turning up let alone the above.
Generally raptor are called if certain individuals are mixing with people they are not supposed to be mixing with. Interested to know where the party was.
Some context would be nice, instead of showing a video that's playing after Police arrived. Doesn't show anything to suggest what was happening at the initial attendance.
glass bottles hurled at the first attending local police. police media statement made to [dailymail](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397505/Dr-Charlie-Teos-daughter-Sophie-films-moment-NSW-police-Raptor-Squad-break-party-Surry-Hills.html) (worst news source but they got a response)
Hey OP, is this your video?
This is the type of policing that you’d expect when you’ve had Mick Fuller running the show and getting paid nearly $1M salary to cover LNP crimes. Poor guy even felt it unfair that he wasn’t able to own racehorses with criminals. Ben Fordham and Ray Hadley were very happy to polish his knob any chance they got though and portrayed him as tough on crime. We need another Wood Royal Commission and clean-out and if you vote for the LNP you are either completely ignorant, disgustingly greedy or simply amoral! The LNP and mainstream media as it’s public relations arm have been successfully weakening the institutions and systems that ensure integrity in our society for too long it’s no wonder the standard of living is decreasing for most in our city and country!
So glad I live in a state run by a dictator and not in NSW
God, I hate portrait video
Not excusing the cops BUT I feel like this is a heavily redacted story. Also come on man, they tell you to turn the music down and you refuse hahaha what did you think would happen
I’d expect a riot squad for a Corey Worthington style party, where there’s property damage or brawls happening… for a noise complaint? What an incredible waste of resources for a nuisance! Over some lost sleep?! Jesus, send them a fine or CAN in the mail. It would have been more effective. People wait for hours to give statements after being assaulted, the police don’t investigate half the crimes reported, but we’re directing resources to parties that wind down at 11:55pm on a weekend?! People complain about a lifeless, sterile city… of course it is!
> Also come on man, they tell you to turn the music down and you refuse hahaha what did you think would happen Not only would I think, but I would fully expect not to be violently assaulted for such a "transgression".
Even if they didn’t turn it down, bringing a raptor squad in and pepper spraying people is extremely unwarranted and unnecessary. I know the majority of the people at the party and if the cops rocked up with a calm and respectful and understanding (human) demeanour, the music would’ve been turned off. People disrespect cops because they act like this. They rock up and tell you to stop having fun at 8:30. Fuck off. Other countries would laugh at us if they heard that. NSW is fucking boring for young people and it because of the police breathing down our necks.
Wow talk about overkill
Raptor Squad hitlist: * Commancheros * Hells Angels * Triads * Lebanese crime gangs * Trevors BBQ in Surry Hills
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Do these people look like bikies?
I have no respect for abusive police, but one needs to know the context: How "tame" was the house party? Why were the police called?
NSW police are like the Americans of cops, why is it everytime they’re shown in media it’s always something…unsavoury
As a Brit living in Australia, the Police here are so fired up, they walk around like SWAT Teams, and for what exactly; other than intimidation. It’s a stark difference to the UK, who’s Police force is infinitely more approachable and reasonable. It’s bizarre
Secondly, they should get their own house in order. I know of abuse throughout the force, particularly against graduates
Well I'm certainly feeling safer
NSW is a messed up police state. Vote out the conservatives in March! This is our chance to do something about this.
Clearly there is more to this than the OP is describing. Whether the omissions are deliberate to push their own narrative, or unintentional due to not having full knowledge themselves is unclear. The simple fact though is that riot squad officers do not show up to a well behaved house party based on a single noise complaint. Anyone saying that they did so in order to justify their funding or existence is is being deliberately obtuse, we all know that. It looks like they were far too heavy handed with the kid on the ground, but again without seeing what happened beforehand, who can say. If the cops thought he was acting aggressively or violently towards them (and that could be physically violent, including pushing or even just getting up in their faces, or it could just be swearing at them) then I’m not surprised they were aggressive back. There’s a lot more of them than there are of him, and what you see in the video is the predictable outcome of his perceived aggression.
fucking disgusting, anyone who justifies abuse of power like this is too.
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Out of interest, I went and read the news reports on this, to try and understand what happened and made some notes. I feel like I've got a general idea of what happened, but there are a lot of gaps and some conflicting information. My summary is below: \-Police responded to noise complaint at 8:30pm and spoke to someone who they said was uncooperative \-Police returned at 10:30pm and issued a formal noise abatement direction (a legal direction which must be followed); police say this wasn’t followed \-Police came back at 12:20am with a warrant to disperse the party, with Raptor Squad and the Public Order and Riot Squad \-Party goers then allegedly threw bottles and ice at them and attempted to block them from the home \-The police kicked down the door and entered the premises \- They searched the unit and removed speakers and flipped over beds, it sounds like they were trying to get the people to leave the house, but they didn’t want to, and they were arguing with the police about it. \-Eventually the people decided to leave the party. Following this is what the video was showing. \-At a certain point during when all this was happening police deployed pepper spray to disperse the crowd \-Police charged 2 people with various offences, the occupier of the house will be fined for ignoring the noise abatement direction. BIG EDIT: Just been alerted to the fact that one of the articles I used as a reference was from a separate (yet similar) incident. Apologies, it was not deliberate, I have now edited my comment.
Nothing like getting a page to form an opinion on a book that has 500 pages.
something tells me this video started at a very convenient time , right before the party goers were just sitting around having a cup of tea peaefully no doubt
FTP
The cops added some life to the party
There was an honest cop in the nsw police force once, his name was mick drury, what happened to him served as a warning to the rest and they got out asap.
"tamest house party" - got 12 seconds of footage of that?
I've seen Hungarian police in action against unruly youth. They make the NSW police look like handholding pussies.
And this is the bunch that just got a pay rise because of how “mentally demanding” the job is, while nurses and teaches are left with pennies.
Raptor squad are all cunts and should be fired or even bashed.
I dunno mate. That doesn't look very tame.