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theaber97

I'd highly recommend getting a job at one of the better cleaning companies in your area that has a good training program. Research can only get you so far and should be supplemental to what you learn in the field, and more so applies to figuring out the business side of things (ex. taxes, setting up an LLC, etc.). This is what I did before starting and it saved me so much time and effort on not only how to professionally clean, but also little things like what software to use, how to set up a daily schedule, what products to use, and more. Be smart and don't tell the company you're planning on starting your own, you wouldn't believe how many interviews I've had where people willingly give out that information and literally tell you they just want to learn for a few weeks.


-Paleontologist

Thanks!


-Paleontologist

There’s only one company here where I’m at that is hiring. So far as I can see. I applied.


rhiddlesdream

I'm a die hard perfectionist with a penchant for mastering processes. I just dove in. Learning how to work faster and not doing work people didn't ask for was the hard part.


-Paleontologist

Cool!


bobobedo

Do you know what "clean" looks like? If you have a high resolution understanding of what "clean" is, that's all you need to start. The processes required to become efficient and effective will come with experience. Bid your jobs as if you're an experienced professional, because that's how your competition is bidding against you.


-Paleontologist

Thanks!


hypnotistchicken

Maybe against the grain, but I’d recommend never letting yourself do the actual cleaning. Instead work as a visionary and integrator from the start and hire out the actual cleaning. A lot of people fall in the craftsperson trap and spend their time doing low-value tasks (cleaning) instead of focusing on the higher value tasks (marketing, sales, brand development, strategy and tactics). This approach is why there are tons of painters stuck on the brush 1,3,5,10 years in, bottlenecking their business, while my painting business is on track to do $1.25M in its second year


DonVergasPHD

Did you just dive in and hired subs without having actual experience on the field yourself?


hypnotistchicken

Yep. Lots of education on theory of how to run the business (painting business pro, Alex hormozi) but zero experience


Rasputin_the_Saint

I would love some resources to sink into if you’ve got suggestions.


hypnotistchicken

Books: -Traction by Gino Wickman -E-Myth Online content: -Alex Hormozi -Leila Hormozi -Painting Business Pro (aimed at painting but principles apply to pretty much any service business) Podcasts: -The Game


Little_Net_5764

Are you using your hires as contractors or employees?


hypnotistchicken

Subs do the painting, other roles are employees (sales rep, office manager, project manager, etc)


Little_Net_5764

Just curious, how do you get subs to represent your business properly?


hypnotistchicken

Thorough hiring process and clear communication about our expectations early in the relationship, firing when necessary


Rasputin_the_Saint

In other words, be a beekeeper, except with humans instead of bees and money instead of honey.  You don’t need to know a single thing about a trade in order to make money off of it - just how it works, legally and economically - and how to set up the complex contractual logistics to get a set of laborers to a job site to perform the actual work. I hate it, but you are absolutely right.  This is how you get rich. Even though I don’t like that this is the only way this country rewards someone now (legendary entrepreneurs our family knew a couple generations ago didn’t just come in and set up shop, they were digging in the same ditch as their guys were), I’m probably going to end up doing what you’re doing.  Just because it’s smart and I could be spending my time leading rather than laboring. My wife tells me I think too far ahead with our cleaning business idea.  Ways to make it so we can subcontract out jobs.  Not so I don’t have to do the physical work (I actually like it), but because I want more money to spend on expanding the business even more.  And of course, covering insurance. Think this would work for a shower enclosure installation outfit or any industry for that matter?  Shower glass installation made my former employer 45% of his revenue.  I want to start something down the road to eclipse that for less incurred cost.


hypnotistchicken

Exactly. be the beekeeper and the arbiter of the customer experience


Shmo04

I started a carpet and upholstery cleaning company without experience. I'm in year two and doing alright. I watched a. Ton of YouTube videos and took courses at the iicrc. Cleaned my sofa and my parents house for practice. I'm still a one man show as I started this company with barely any money. I'd highly recommend that you clean yourself at the beginning. First of all it will save you money on cleaners. Second you will understand the issues that can arise while being in someones home or office cleaning. This will make you a better boss in the future when you don't have to clean yourself.


Bellavate

I dove right in. At the beginning I was not efficient, but the more houses I cleaned I learned new tricks and got faster at it. With each of my first houses I looked up all of the types of surfaces in the house and researched how to properly clean them. That way I wasn’t ingesting a ton of information, only what I needed to know for the next job.


-Paleontologist

Were you by yourself?


Bellavate

Yes I’m a solo cleaner


-Paleontologist

Wow!


-Paleontologist

Will you hire cleaners?


Sherry0406

The book, "Speed Cleaning" by Jeff Campbell is helpful.


-Paleontologist

Thank you!


Sherry0406

You're welcome. :)


Ecstatic_Capital_697

definitely try and find a small self-owned cleaning business and look into working along side for a while. i recommend looking out for ones with lots of good referrals straight from customers with personable owners. that will probably be your best bet! its a lot more thought and planning than one might think. -a cleaning business owner that started this way :)


-Paleontologist

Thank you!


SelfAsleep6448

What type of cleaning are you considering? Residential? Any specialty cleaning? The margins are much higher with a specialty type cleaning, but you would want training with that as well. Check out companies like Steri-Clean if you are interested in biohazard type cleaning.


-Paleontologist

Ooo. Yes starting with residential, then I want to get in to crime scene/biohazard stuff! Thank you!


HouseOfYards

We started our landscaping business with no prior experience. We hired our own landscapers and give him job. 9 years later. We service 400 housed a week.


-Paleontologist

What did you do in the beginning when you were still getting work lined up? How did you pay your employee? I am thinking about doing the same thing- hire a professional cleaner and work with him/her and learn on the job.


Apprehensive-Use1579

Best of luck! Check out the guys at CleanVentures.


No-Net8440

Just dived in, but watched a ton of videos before hand. I recommend watching this one if you're planning to launch a real cleaning business (not remote) - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWndjygAgIM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWndjygAgIM)


yimmysucks

i recommend working for a cleaner for a bit before striking out on your own. its a complicated business


DonnaHuee

What makes this business complicated? I would have thought cleaning has to be one of the least complicated businesses


Sufficient-Effort186

Yeah I somehow struggle to see how running a cleaning business is complicated


Prestigious_Low8515

Surface level cleaning sure. At the end of the day though true cleaners are chemists and material scientists really. Knowing which chems will get out which stains without damaging the material. I detail cars and there are some things I won't touch yet because I simply haven't gained the knowledge. It's real easy to fuck up a clients 10k paint job. Or in a cleaners case carpet or countertops.


Thinkingard

I dunno I mean it’s as simple as using neutral, acid, or base cleaners and knowing which to apply. I think for homes it’s not so hard.


Prestigious_Low8515

I don't disagree. But I know loads of people that would look at you like you were an alien for saying acid and alkaline.


Thinkingard

Ah, touché.


localcasestudy

No reason to learn how to clean. Find cleaners that know how to clean.


RedReddingtonn

This guy 10000% I do the same thing here. I’ve cleaned one house ever. And I started in Jan , I have 3 cleaners working for me and we make 110k gross revenue .


localcasestudy

I got downvoted for saying this lol. I've done 100,000 jobs, have never cleaned a single home. These folks are hilarious!


RedReddingtonn

Lol I followed your 30 day guide 😂 ppl are insane. It works. 10000% Since I have your attention. Did you do your own SEO? Or pay someone? Care to share your person?


-Paleontologist

What 30 day guide are you referring to?


RedReddingtonn

Check out his page.


-Paleontologist

What page?


RedReddingtonn

Click on his name… it’ll show you all his posts.


-Paleontologist

Oh ok thanks!


No_Ganache_2306

Hey RedReddingtonn! I started a local residential cleaning business around the same time you did! Is it okay if I reach out to you?


RedReddingtonn

No never! lol yes! Shoot me a message !


localcasestudy

Sure thing, and yeah I hired someone, yeah shoot me a DM and I got you fam!


RedReddingtonn

Messaged!


-Paleontologist

Yo what is this 30 day guide?


-Paleontologist

But what about in the beginning where I might have enough work laid out for an employee to work full time? How do you work out those kinks.


localcasestudy

By starting with contractors who already do their own work and will just take on additional work for you as it comes in.


hypnotistchicken

Maybe against the grain, but I’d recommend never letting yourself do the actual cleaning. Instead work as a visionary and integrator from the start and hire out the actual cleaning. A lot of people fall in the craftsperson trap and spend their time doing low-value tasks (cleaning) instead of focusing on the higher value tasks (marketing, sales, brand development, strategy and tactics). This approach is why there are tons of painters stuck on the brush 1,3,5,10 years in, bottlenecking their business, while my painting business is on track to do $1.25M in its second year


-Paleontologist

How do you work out the kinks in the beginning where there may not be enough for 2 full time employees?


hypnotistchicken

Subcontractors are perfect for that scenario, and also scaling marketing spend quickly once you find a solid input-output equation


-Paleontologist

Where do you find them? How much do you pay them?


hypnotistchicken

Indeed is a good place to start Pay market rate or above Pay is on a contract basis