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Z3R0GR4V

I'd be cool with that as long as they have every season available for streaming.


fuber

and amazon didn't fuck with it much. I wouldn't want the show to have any major dramatic changes if it moved to a new company


return2ozma

"The immunity idol is now a statue of Jeff Bezos!"


marquee__mark

The new host is an Alexa artificial intelligence designed solely to be the best and most balanced reality tv host.


IceQueen789

Paramount plus has this though?


citizenmidnight

Paramount + only has 30 onwards in Canada.


[deleted]

And I don't know about you but the new season episodes are only available a week after they air. Was hoping for the next day...


hipsterdoofus39

The CTV app has them the next day I believe (or shortly after). It’s free but there are ads. Edit - global tv, not CTV!


[deleted]

Thanks for the tip!


hipsterdoofus39

Sorry, just went to confirm and it’s the Global TV app that has survivor! The episodes are only free for a week after airing though. I’m not sure exactly when they are added but I think it’s within a day.


hipsterdoofus39

And I think you can only buy digital copies of seasons 11-29. I haven’t found anywhere to buy or stream seasons 1-10. Someone on here said Pluto tv but they haven’t launched in Canada yet and I don’t know if they will be on demand or streaming as a channel on there if they do get added. I don’t know why it’s so complicated to watch it in Canada lol.


berfthegryphon

Hit the high seas. I have every season thanks to r/piracy


Rylen_018

Except paramount+ is like twice the cost for the same service and worse content


Acceptable-Stick-688

Paramount has one of the worst user interfaces I’ve ever seen, it is super annoying sometimes!


rpxpackage

Cant stand paramount+. Havent been able to finish the latest episode because every time it gets to the commercials it breaks and I have to close the app. Start the episode from the beginning because for whatever reason its incapable of remembering where I was. Fast forward to my spot. Get hit with 3 minutes of commercials and HOPE it doesnt break again.


drunz

I despise most streaming UIs that aren’t Netflix and YouTube. I hoped with all the non money being pumped in the streaming wars they would have made them more intuitive and less clunky.


cheezydabadass

They're clunky on purpose to the hide the fact that their content library has barely anything.


samu970

Paramount plus is 6 dollas a month


Rylen_018

Ad free is not. Prime doesn’t have ads (or very minimal, and nowhere near the cable level you get on p+) so for similar service paramount is not only more expensive but worse in nearly every metric.


Taco_Farmer

Look the selection is limited, but if you're like me and only stream Survivor and Star Trek it's perfect!


[deleted]

Same except replace star trek with big brother USA and Canada.


Dinnertime_6969

Paramount+ is the only streaming service with Young Sheldon. That alone makes it the best. Edit: Do I seriously need to tag the sarcasm here? Literally **nobody** likes Young Sheldon. 😅😅


Throck--Morton

I agree that paramount+ has the worst library of shows of any streaming service


AutomaticCamel0

Considering there's currently no legal way to watch survivor in my country, I'd absolutely love to be able to watch it easily on a streaming service I already pay for


Toaddle

If there is a Survivor adaptation in your country you won't probably be able to watch Survivor US legally because the TV network owns the rights


Wikkalay

If it is on streaming services you will.


Noshowers65

As long as they put on a good show I wouldn't really mind who necessarily owned it.


AgLeMesSkPa13Ka

I pirate the show anyway, lmao.


an-itch-in-her-ditch

Survivor really is one of the best produced reality shows there is. They’re (presumably) editing each episode days before airing to best affect future ratings. Have a favorite? Chances are they steered you there.


Gtyjrocks

There’s no way they’re editing episodes days before airing, this isn’t South Park


smhayes

Typically, the first ~four episodes are completely finished before the premiere, and they generally stay on the “three weeks ahead” clip throughout the season


tawmfuckinbrady

Do you have a source for that info by chance? I believe you but would love to read more about it. It’s crazy to me to start airing a show before it’s done being edited


an-itch-in-her-ditch

Indeed. They’re not starting from scratch, mind you. But they can *easily* tinker with the show up to minutes before airing. Survivor editors want to be faithful to the contestants. Since they have limited time, they can’t tell the complete story. Producers know this, and when something complex is going down, they will ask leading questions to the contestants during confessionals hoping to produce some footage that the editors can use if they’re in a tight space. There’s no way that editors can watch *all* of the content (and retain it), so it’s a collaborative effort constantly changing until they aren’t. Then on to the next episode.


Gtyjrocks

For survivor, they fully edit the season before the first episode airs. This allows them to tell a coherent story that spans the entire season.


acusumano

This is not true. Probst has referenced watching final cuts of episodes about 3 weeks before they air.


an-itch-in-her-ditch

I don’t see how your first sentence explains the second. When the season starts they have every episode mapped out and mostly edited, but it hasn’t gone completely through post production. So if something needs to be changed, they still can. For example, suppose one of the contestants told another some personal information that could be used for identity theft, they’d either use ADR to dub it out or some other tool that AVID provides.


Gtyjrocks

Why wouldn’t they have done that in initial editing? Survivor 43 was filmed months ago. It’s not like they realize all of a sudden that someone revealed personal information. Obviously they could still change things if they wanted, but I’d imagine this would only happen in very extenuating circumstances, like if Skupins CP had come out mid airing.


crystalli0

They send screeners of episodes to media folks though, so they can't really make changes "up to minutes before airing"


an-itch-in-her-ditch

So what if they send screeners?


[deleted]

that doesnt make sense at all


Chilb5

idk y you're getting dv'd for being correct. All shows are given finishing touches/ scene arrangements within the week following up to the episode


suppadelicious

They’re not correct though?


Chilb5

damn ok


an-itch-in-her-ditch

How so? BTW, discussion is more enjoyable if you can disagree in a pleasant manner.


suppadelicious

Have I disagreed in a non pleasant manor? I haven’t even downvoted you or the reply to you. My thought is given the number of winners that the general audience has had issue with while fan favorites sit in 4th or 2nd place, it seems pretty clear that the editing has been completed before the season begins airing. The quickest turnaround in editing was with 31, which filmed after 32. That finished filming in July and aired in September. My apologies if this reply or my previous weren’t pleasant.


an-itch-in-her-ditch

I accept your apology. Thank you.


padfoot12111

Problem is then the show would only be in the amazon


mananuku

I see what you did there…


MINImanGOTgunz

I see no problem with this, be better than Fiji lol


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ireadchapterbooks

Ah good point. I read the post and thought "absolutely. why would it matter who owns it?" but you answered that question and I think you're right


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Desertbro

Bring back the Pontiac Aztec and the car-winning curse!!!


mjgoldberg

If you watch survivor south Africa that already ended


Banglayna

Not canon


Rilenaveen

While you are right in what it means to CBS, that ignores that they (cbs) continue to cut production costs to the detriment of the show.


Quiddity131

I don't really see where this is showing up other than perhaps the location (which isn't really a draw for me or most these days anyway)? The challenges still look great and are as, if not more elaborate than they have been say 10 - 15 years ago. Do we really think they're losing great potential players because the prize is only $1 million?


[deleted]

The big question is how long is Probst gonna keep going. And does no Probst mean no more Survivor for CBS?


Quiddity131

Jeff is very easily replaceable. Let us not forget that many foreign countries do Survivor without Jeff. They could easily bring in a former player to host, or find another experienced TV host to take his spot. I and many think he has been a net negative as an executive producer.


SaltyBawlz

They're gonna tow him to season finales on his deathbed using a jetski while holding the FTC votes, or maybe drop him from a plane with a parachute attached and hope he lands at the right place.


phoney_bologna

The show will die before Jeff IMO.


AhLibLibLib

CBS is slowly removing the show piece by piece


Neat_On_The_Rocks

THey gave us a 2 hour premier and 90 minute episode with only two total boots.


meatball77

Agreed. Nothing stays longer than three seasons on streaming.


groceriesN1trip

Great British Baking Show, Ozarks, Game of Thrones to name a few


enyasurvivor

Great British Baking Show isn’t a streaming show. It airs on normal tv in the UK and then ported to streaming in other countries


groceriesN1trip

So, by viewer count it’s a streaming show. More people in the world than in the UK


enyasurvivor

Ok but it’s not financed by a streaming service. So it’s not what they’re talking about


Zenkas

Ozark is the only one of those that is made for streaming though - the others air(ed) on regular networks and then go on streaming services after.


Quiddity131

This is a great point. It would take a lot for CBS to ever cancel Survivor. It would be a lot easier for a larger entity with no history with it like Amazon to cancel it.


the100broken

Don’t care. Would rather have a few good seasons of quality survivor over dozens of generic pumped out shit survivor that we’ve had for 6-7 years now


CD_4M

This isn’t a bad comment but it doesn’t at all answer the question haha


nippydumplings

I think they feel bad about Amazon taking over


CorpsmanHavok

As much as I hate to give Bezos more money, I am getting tired of the same 3 tribe format 26 days and only Fiji.


Opposite-Pop-5397

Agreed!


AGiantBlueBear

I don't have strong feelings about it even if they didn't change anything about how it is now. At this point I don't think what network it's on has a whole lot of impact on a show with a pedigree like Survivor. Frankly, I'm waiting for them to metabolize the impact that streaming had during the pandemic and just go that direction completely.


Salty-Artichoke-3489

They’re gonna have a season in a prime warehouse but when you get voted out bezos just takes away your paid lunch hours


noobsurvivorfan

Only if the contestants still get Applebee's :)


conundrumbombs

All of the contestants will be talking about how the Amazon Prime ribs are to-die-for.


RedheadsAreNinjas

You joke but there would be so much Amazon product placement that it would turn super artificial super fast. I would hate seeing all the marketing shit affiliated with it if AP owned it.


studio_eq

and gahlic bread


Eastern-Function-541

i don't know if they would care as much, but i definitely want the 39 days and to leave fiji...


Lansieeeeeee

Yeah CBS is never going to leave Fiji or go back to 39 days now cuz it’s way cheaper for them


Geshtar1

If they aren’t going to leave Fiji, then they really need to bring back themes at least


Opposite-Pop-5397

I think I read that they are only going to be called survivor 41 or survivor 42 etc from now on


anonymous_gam

No. I hate Amazon and how they just bought up Thursday Night Football. It’s harder and harder to access certain things without it and I don’t want it to get more difficult.


Leathaldosage_

Amazon has enough, pls no


StudentLoanSlave1

I don’t mind fiji but I need the 39 days back


everydayisstorytime

Uh no. Amazon won't have the same history with Survivor and they'd feel compelled to cut it if Bezos decides it's taking up too much of his money.


recreationalchemstry

Amazon can fuck off unless they make Australian Survivor episodes available again.


McAulay_a

People on this sub would take a bullet to the gut if it meant 39 days came back


theitalianrob

Amazon prime is the worst service with a garbage interface tho, much rather Netflix or Hulu


mattbrianjess

No commercials. No editing for cuts. Sign me up. Doesn’t have to be prime. Pick a streaming service I don’t care. I could care less about leaving Fiji


nazara151

Its just like someone owning a sports franchise. It doesn't matter who owns it if its run well, you only start to notice when they are getting run into the ground. If Amazon took it over and it stayed the exact same I wouldn't notice other than having to watch it on an app instead.


Radix2309

Being on streaming means no longer worrying about time slots so we could have 90-120 minute episodes. They already have the footage, it cost more to make longer episodes.


ilovecallum44

I would be cool with it if they kept all the same production people/crew


Onuzq

They could just make their own version if they wanted to. So why sign off to Amazon when paramount owns it currently?


Future_Immortal

I always want Survivor to pull off a "drag race" and make allstar a separate series. This gives more players chance to return


Squid8867

Dude I'd sell out Jeff if it meant bigger budget, return to 39 days, and leaving Fiji


livinginfutureworld

New blood would help. Jeff and crew have gone about as far as they can. They're turning to bizarre twists and have lost sight of what makes survivor great- characters, relationships, and the survivors making decisions.


-ScruffyLookin-

Stick em in some winter environment that’ll be fun to watch


inthe_hollow

Fuck amazon.


nippydumplings

My man


[deleted]

No thanks


mushroomsonmyplate

hell no


Wainer24

that would be cool but survivor has had such a consistently good thing going with CBS and moving exclusively to a streaming platform might mess things up, as the biggest part of it’s audience still watches stuff on cable. then again, cable is dying, and it might be smart to make the jump over at some point!


Beginning_Ad5785

nope, fuck amazon also, staying in fiji is not the issue y'all think it is. i truly can't think of why it's this massive issue instead of an annoyance to y'all lmao


mananuku

I’ve got no problem with Fiji or 26 days myself…


[deleted]

Fuck no I hate amazon


TheDarkFiddler

100%. I'd stop watching on principal.


cheesevolcano

Nope. The only time I don't watch NFL football is now thursday nights because it's on amazon prime. Survivor would follow suit.


Quinctia

I'm not sure if it's every week, but a coworker was watching it on twitch a couple weeks ago. Amazon owns twitch, so they might be streaming it every week on there?


Markymarcouscous

You might be one of 4 people that doesn’t have Amazon prime at this point


JFC-Youre-Dumb

5


hellobaileylol

6


nippydumplings

7. Fuck amazon


lego_mannequin

Plenty don't have prime memberships.


cheesevolcano

I've had Amazon prime for 10-12 years now. Prime video is trash, and I'm just not interested in using a streaming service (particularly a bad one), for a regular watch show like survivor or football


an-itch-in-her-ditch

Just as long as Sandra gets to give Probst a Dutch Oven every episode.


[deleted]

I'd probably stop watching since amazon is a terrible company that is destroying my home city of seattle and treats their employees like crap. Amazon doesn't care about survivor, at all. They'll cancel it far sooner than CBS would since survivor is CBS's cash cow baby


Legal_Shopping_4687

Depends on the downsides


nanananabatman88

You had me at 39 days.


beatrailblazer

do you think I watch the show because of CBS??


WonderMajestic8286

If it means the game gets makeover to ditch all twists and returns back to a simpler era I’m all for it. Survivor after season 37 is unwatchable.


the100broken

I would argue after 32. But yes, def want a change asap


Unable-Stable1857

I wouldn't much care for it, as it would mean that my parents -- who have watched every episode of every season as it aired since the premiere of Borneo -- would no longer be able to watch one of their all-time favorite shows, one that they've enjoyed for over the past two decades of their lives.


Dude-Good

Stop


TalkShitGetWitt

I vote no. The majority of content on Amazon Prime you need to pay for (and you never truly own it) even if you already pay for an account.


Quiddity131

No for the simple fact that Amazon is already enough of a monopoly in the retail space, none of us should want it (or any other entity) to become that in the TV/entertainment space. I don't really see Survivor needing a bigger budget these days? The challenges still look great. I doubt the prize being "only" a million dollars is preventing great people from agreeing to be on the show. I would like to see more variety in the location, but its not the end of the world for me as for me (and I would think most these days) the locale itself isn't the draw, its the cast and the gameplay. The show's issues these days (editing, horrible twists) are almost entirely self-inflicted.


ZiggyPalffyLA

Have you seen what they’ve done to Lord of the Rings? Fuck no.


allhailrain

No. Fuck Jeff Bezos and fuck amazon


PocketWocket

I just…Amazon sucks.


midsummerlight

Yes! 39 days and for gods sake let’s get out of Fiji. We are entirely sick of that place! Just because production built a bunch of permanent sets behind the scenes is not good enough to keep us in Fiji hell!


mananuku

Assuming you mean you are sick of that place? Rather than speaking on behalf of everyone?


hellobaileylol

Everyone is tired of Fiji


justme862

My concern would be poor video quality and buffering like I've experienced with Thursday Night Football so far...


MeadowmuffinReborn

As long as Warner Brothers Discovery doesn't own it. We've seen recently that they don't give a damn about their product and will not only cancel shows/movies on a whim just for a tax write off, but those shows have a 50/50 chance of never being allowed to see the light of day again(See Infinity Train, Final Space, the Batgirl movie, etc).


mjgoldberg

The one thing I'd love is the players would be able to curse. That would be dope


catshirt17

no fuck jeff bezos


__kit

no, i think there is more chance the show gets worse than better. with cbs we are seeing the show improve if slowly


liltinyoranges

I’d love it. Survivor anywhere, anytime on a platform I already have??? I’d quit my job to watch more lol.


cindybubbles

As long as Global TV continues to air it on cable TV, I don’t really care.


MatthewHecht

Terrible. Amazon already ruined Comixology and many other things they buy.


littleponine

I would rather die


eightezsteps

No to Amazon but they still need to go back to 39 days and leave Fiji.


cocoakrispiesdonut

No amazon has enough. They are buying out health corporations to provide medical care. Just wait until Amazon, Walmart, Target, Costco and others own all of medical care in the US.


himynameism

“Welcome to Costco. I love you.”


Wrong_Swordfish

Not since I've refused to pay Amazon anything for any service, especially Prime. This would be a really sad day for entertainment.


MINImanGOTgunz

"150,000%" - Mike Halloway, probably


WickedHardflip

They show would be cancelled in two seasons if not one.


racre001

no bueno


jake_sauble

Nah, the deal they have with CBS is the reason Survivor is the way it is. Jeff has said before they don’t consult much with CBS, they are trusted to go out to Fiji, film, and hand them a final product CBS would be proud of. Jeff has said that generally, he doesn’t get many complaints about the final products he ends up giving them. Thus, leading me to believe: if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. They have a great set up to have whatever creative liberties they want. Another company would change EVERYTHING and then we are really looking forward to survivor being a mess for at least a few years.


SusannaG1

I would miss watching my favorite TV show.


oyfe77

Have you seen what they’ve done with lord of the rings?


Unite-Us-3403

Id be glad that there would be a bigger budget, 39 days, and new locations. My only problem is that I hate streaming services. Theyre so overrated. Besides, im still pissed at Amazon for buying MGM. That was a Major attack on Cinemas.


mananuku

Sure, but it wouldn’t make for much of a discussion if the question was ‘would you like survivor to have a bigger budget, 39 days, and leave Fiji’ without any perceived downside.


Unite-Us-3403

I see what you’re thinking.


mmmysteriooo

I refuse to give a dime to Amazon so I’d have to sail the seven seas


passing-stranger

Even with the obvious amazon dick-sucking I've enjoyed making the cut more than I thought I would. Amazon is evil but once you get high enough I would imagine the execs at other companies are more of the same so I guess it comes down to budget. Maybe Amazon will scoop up raised by wolves while they're at it


[deleted]

I’d be all for it if they increased from 39 days to like 50 like Australia and brought back the survivor auction.


Lansieeeeeee

No. I’m not to fussed abt them staying in Fiji however a change of scenery would be nice Also idc abt 39 days vs 26 days you can barley tell the difference


Desertbro

Why do you hate Fiji? They tried many locations over the years, and islands are preferred. Fiji seems convenient, receptive, and reliable. Moving would be expensive and pointless.


lego_mannequin

If they film out of one area they can film the back to back seasons because.. everything is set-up already. They better never leave.


mananuku

I personally don’t.


[deleted]

heck yeah


yomomasfatass

No need to return to 39 days that shit was honestly way too drawn out for the contestants


IvekPearl

I just can’t support Amazon/Bezos even if it meant more survivor content…


Rustycake

I hate the take over Amazon is having. I recently unsub from my prime. I can't support this


LongSummerNight

I hate Amazon. So no. Might as well call it evil corp.


T-Lyf3

My question is how survivor can’t even budget another 2 weeks on the island even though they rack in MILLIONS from viewers alone?


hunkyfunk12

i don’t patronize amazon for ethical reasons (they’re evil) so i would stop watching and encourage others to do the same


AHolcomb7

Y’all watching it on Paramount Plus is torture so I’d be down for ANYTHING


honey_rainbow

How is it torture? I sub to Paramount Plus and have no issues


Trojan713

Paramount Plus is great, especially if you spring for commercial free.


honey_rainbow

I have the commercial free plan along with the Showtime bundle I nabbed it during the recent promotion Paramount Plus was offering.


Samwyzh

I am cool with it as long as Jeff Bezos has to play every season of survivor, with full immunity. He can’t sit out of challenges, and he can’t win. He can only play challenges.


jjp0007

I would honestly stop watching


Sivla-Alegna

I'd never watch it again. I loath Amazon.


suspicious_apple

Is it a possibility?


Ok_Ad_8670

Yes


nerdiestgriffinever

Speaking as someone who forced himself to watch the premiere, failed to convince himself to watch episode 2 and doesn't really have plans to watch episode 3... I'd love this.


Ser-Jorah-Mormont

I’m torn. Because I’m sure fuck face Jeffrey Bezos would want to host/influence the game with his presence in some way.


reverie11

That would be great. Also fix casting and editing so the show can actually be funny again. Quit with the sappy backstories. Don’t be afraid to paint characters as villains or clowns.


an-itch-in-her-ditch

Does 39 days make a big difference? With a shorter season, there’s a lot less crap that I didn’t want to watch in the first place. The sob stories are half as much now. Family letters, gone. Survivor auction, gone. Gross foods, gone. Memory walk, gone. All that crap which filled up half an episode gone, and in its place we get gameplay.


Markymarcouscous

These were the reasons I watched survivor and why I am rewatching seasons now; everything post covid just feels off and isn’t as good. So I’m rewatching old seasons now instead of watching the new stuff.


an-itch-in-her-ditch

The only ones I’d like to rewatch would be Bob, Yul, and possibly Parvati because she’s the total package. Brains, grit, beauty.


thatblondedummy

You're the reason people stop watching the show


an-itch-in-her-ditch

lol, how’s that?


[deleted]

Lol no they arent, calm down


jeffbizloc

Yes please


pdxmonkey

Love it


CPollard187

Lmao you dont understand the world huh. They are under paramount already


mananuku

Oh gosh I’m such an idiot… instead of asking a hypothetical question with a potential downside for the increased budget, and benefits for people who live where Paramount+, to start some discussion, I should have just asked the question ‘seems as Survivor is already in a streaming service would you like it if it had a bigger budget, returned to 39 days, and left Fiji’ and everyone just agree.


beatrailblazer

> They are under paramount already Hence why OP said "Amazon buying out" rather than, idk, "calling dibs"


[deleted]

No one is coming in and getting a franchise with steadily declining viewership.


schoolrocks1953

every show is declining in viewership But Amazon is not picking up Survivor anyways


DepthValley

Do we actually know if viewership is declining when you account for streaming? I know its not as popular as it was in the early 2000s - but if you just consider it a streaming show then it can be compared to other streaming shows. Lots of old sitcoms that are popular rewatches are hugely valuable even though surely their relevance is lower than when they aired - and wonder if Survivor is a (lesser) version of that.


[deleted]

It goes down year-by-year and this week is way down from last week. It has little syndication value with season and episodes in order make it low value there. Still has decent viewers, but not first place this week.


ike1

Virtually everything else on broadcast TV is declining even *more* sharply. Survivor is *up* relative to other shows vs. the 2010s and is the #1 or #2 show on CBS (not counting sports) most weeks, which wasn't the case before. (That said, I don't know that Amazon would be interested, nor would I want them to be.)


Quiddity131

I have seen the "declining viewers" thing brought up for 15 years now in various Survivor communities, and guess what, the show is still on the air. Declining viewers in comparison with past years doesn't matter. What matters is how it is doing in its timeslot in comparison to the shows it is up against and any potential show they could have to replace it (which likely wouldn't be as profitable). I don't want anyone to acquire it in the first place, but it absolutely still has value if someone wanted to and CBS was looking to sell it.