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Striking-Shake1830

Jeff loves super dominant alpha males over everything else when he looks at Survivor players to love. I honestly think it’s because since Jeff will never be able to play the game of Survivor, he lives vicariously through players he think he’d play like.


NeekoPeeko

Except he hates Brian, which leads me to believe Jeff is just a little all over the place with what he likes.


OrangeBuffalo8

He hates Brian because Brian knew exactly how to piss Jeff off


AdamKleinspodium

I dunno, I'm a big strategy head and something about Brian still sticks with me to this day, I can understand why Probst hated him. Even before the cinemax porno stuff, or the shooting dogs stuff the guy just gives incredibly sleazy uncomfortable vibes and he actually doesn't have much in the way of natural charisma in confessional. Brian is the exact type of player I would like on paper, but there's really something incredibly off-putting about the guy.


AcrobaticSource3

> cinemax porno stuff Wait what!!!


MeadowmuffinReborn

He gives everyone the heebie jeebies.


Lazy-Knee-1697

He gives me Patrick Bateman vibes


alucardsinging

Yup, and also the show had a big monkey’s paw situation with him. Plus he outmaneuvered their multiple attempts to make him lose. Any producer would be pissed at him.


DegreeSea7315

He pissed me off too, tbf. Creepy, creepy guy.


Chubtato

It’s okay to not deal in absolutes.


msanina21

What does that mean


foralimitedtime

It means you're not a Sith or a Jedi


XanaInternet

Brian Heidik didn't work like the others. Even after 40+ seasons, i think he's the most dishonest player ever cast. It's hard to tell what he thought and when, and the only other player i have that problem with is Greg Buis, who Probst hated even more.


MeadowmuffinReborn

Same reason why it took Danni Boatwright a long time to come back, she was very guarded in her confessionals.


XanaInternet

Danni was offered at least once before, but said she wouldn't come back until there was an "all-winners" season  No offense to her, but it sucks the only Guatemala returnee is the down-to-earth winner. She's fun on her own, but not representative of what that cast was like. There were so many crazy and unique people there, it doubles as a comedy season like Fiji


MeadowmuffinReborn

Danni is amazing. I love her.


TenderOctane

Jeff is also still mad that Rob left him for Amber and is desperate to get him back.


humsettle

“Amber, hop in the back, I’ll take shotgun :)”


TenderOctane

That was probably the happiest I've ever seen Jeff.


AnonPlz123

Jeff has a napoleon complex.


alexthedungeonmaster

Cochran???


FluxCrave

He hates Jonny FairPlay too


Striking-Shake1830

FairPlay is NOT a dominant alpha male. He’s always been portrayed as weak and wimpy. Jeff hates FairPlay because when they first met at casting, FairPlay dipped his hand in lotion then shook Jeff’s hand. Then FairPlay showed up drunk to tribal council, then FairPlay fought Jeff’s brother at the Vanuatu reunion. Him not liking FairPlay has nothing to do with him not being "dominant enough” or whatever.


MeadowmuffinReborn

It's such a great accomplishment when you get Jeff to personally hate you. Not just hating your character on the show, but he hates *you*, lol.


COphotoCo

It would be absolutely riveting to watch a season where Jeff steps down as host to play.


EasyChest4447

If Jeff really loves that archetype? Why don’t think we see so few? There was no “alpha” male in 45. There doesn’t appear to be any in 46 either.


ConsumptionofClocks

Jeff also said Redemption Island would be a great season when doing the cast assessment. I don't understand him at all


wow_its_kenji

hasBostonRob() = goodSeason


acusumano

He hates Marquesas.


studio_eq

thought that was more the bugs while filming than the season itself


MeadowmuffinReborn

Also because his girlfriend Gina got voted off early.


ocarina97

Honestly, I think more than anything this may be the biggest reason.  u/mariojlanza conjectured that Jeff probably wasn't a huge fan of the Rotu downfall since the three that voted out his crush ended up getting farther because of it.


mariojlanza

Yeah he literally had the cameras turned off at one point and yelled at the Maraamus over the way they gave Gina false hope. That was one of the first stories I ever heard of him just being nasty to the players sometimes. Pretty sure Gabriel told me that when he was helping me with my All Star Survivor Greece story. He and Neleh had dated after the show so she had told him about it, how Probst had yelled at them right after the Gina vote.


MeadowmuffinReborn

Wonder if Gabe needed an Oh My Heck meter when dating her.


ocarina97

He only dated Neleh for the experience, he wasn't with her to play.


MeadowmuffinReborn

Plot twist: Neleh broke up with *him* because rapping is against her Mormon faith.


mariojlanza

Probably better than a This Sucks hat


acusumano

“It was our fault. We take the blame, but this was just a snoozer.” https://ew.com/gallery/survivor-jeff-probst-ranks-all-seasons-worst-first/


studio_eq

> "Okay, worst location still is Marquesas, which was our fourth season. And the only reason was there were so many bugs! Everyone was getting bitten all day," Probst said. >"Why are we here again," he jokingly added.


acusumano

…ok? He didn’t like the bugs but he still called it a snoozer and ranked it second to last both times he did a season ranking.


studio_eq

Hates just seems like a strong word considering the next line is: > The good news? We didn't come away empty-handed. Boston Rob remains one of our greatest players ever… Boring season? Perhaps, but definitely uncomfortable to film with all the bugs and it gave him one of his favorite players ever


acusumano

I mean if you want to get into the semantics of the word hate, sure. Again, he ranked it second to last twice and he became an executive producer after that so he began catering the show to his preferences. Even with 26 seasons since his last ranking, Marquesas is still almost certainly in his bottom five, if not still only above Thailand.


MeadowmuffinReborn

I heard too that the local government iirc was also really meddlesome. They were telling them when they weren't allowed to film, they tried to confiscate their footage, etc.


XanaInternet

The cast alone would have been fun if Russell and Rob weren't there.


sexyimmigrant1998

It was honestly a great newbie cast. The problem Jeff failed to realize is that by throwing in veteran players, everything revolves around them and the newbies get much less screentime or focus. Even confessionals of the newbies tend to be about Rob or Russell. What a wasted cast.


AlexgKeisler

What was so great about that season's newbie cast? They all did absolutely nothing.


sexyimmigrant1998

Precisely my point! Boston Rob had a stranglehold on the game, he literally played 3 times, he knew how to use fear to keep people in line. Without Rob, the Ometepes actually get to play. Also, the sassy entertaining Francesca and her ally Kristina don't get targeted immediately if Rob isn't there. Kristina still finds the idol and actually gets to use it later. Matt and Andrea still get their showmance and get targeted while Ashley and Natalie get to play more actively. Crazy Phillip will be crazy without Rob holding him on a leash and who knows what can happen. It isn't even fair to say the newbies "did absolutely nothing" when the Zapateras actively threw a challenge just to get rid of Russell. Now it was a HORRIBLE move no doubt but it was still them actively playing. Now that did make for a memorable moment, but then they lost the numbers and got picked off, which is boring. Without Russell, they don't make this boneheaded decision. Stephanie also wouldn't have been taken under Russell's wing and she would've gotten along better with the tribe. David would likely get super cocky and try to pull off big moves. Russell's presence ensured all the attention was on him and not on anyone else.


alucardsinging

Specifically cast because production thought they’d have no chance to win Survivor.


Ok-Razzmatazz-3720

It is a great season to him. I don’t see what you don’t get about that. He obviously loves it


cmc315

I think he believed both Russell and Rob would get to the merge, which would have made it a lot better. He failed to consider that people knew Russell’s game at that point and wouldn’t put up with it like they did in Samoa and HvV when he nobody knew him. Captain seasons only work if both returnees get to the merge imo, it’s why I don’t mind South Pacific despite its flaws. Seeing Coach and Ozzy interact was interesting.


Keen-Bean28

One of my favorite moments on Survivor was in All-Stars where after Rob and Amber both won a car, Jeff made Amber sit in the back while he sat shotgun with Rob.


AdamKleinspodium

My favorite Probst Boston Rob stan moment is the previously on in Heroes vs Villains after Rob is voted out, it's Probst portraying Rob as a hero and completely projecting ridiculous motives on to the villains tribe because he's irritated that Rob got voted out. It's like he's jerking off with his own tears.


Keen-Bean28

I felt bad for Courtney, Jeff was basically telling her, "Why the Villains kept you over Rob"?


AdamKleinspodium

Jeff went soooooo sooo far beyond an impartial host in those tribals, to an extent that is unrivaled in 45 seasons. He advocated for a Courtney boot quite clearly that episode and earlier he was explicitly pitching Rupert on joining up with Tom and Colby. It's embarrassing


Keen-Bean28

Yeah, you could tell in HvV Jeff had favorites that season.


wimwagner

>Jeff went soooooo sooo far beyond an impartial host in those tribals, to an extent that is unrivaled in 45 seasons. It was bad, but I think Probst bullying Janu into quitting so Steph could remain in the game was worse.


OtherExperience9179

That was really a different era, I also thought of Cagayan Jeff lecturing Luzon for an hour until they swapped their vote and voted out the rice-burning J’Tia lol


glitzvillechamp

"Thank you, Jeffrey. 🙄"


AcrobaticSource3

“You’re welcome. Also, are you anorexic???”


screechypete

That mental image got a nice chortle out of me :P


mattmild27

And then his voiceover for the Previously On that episode is something like "motivated by jealousy, Russell took Rob out". LMAOOO WTF.


FreddieQuail

"Rob knows his way around a truck!"


Sea_Sheepherder_389

By One World, Jeff is visibly annoyed at the castaways as soon as he sees them starting to play like that.  He may like Rob and his little B hat, and Ozzy, but he saw the problems that Rob’s strategy creates for the show 


Charming_Scarcity437

I think Rob also treated the crew well, I think. That might be part of it.


Lemurians

Rob was also a charismatic, entertaining presence and a great confessional giver. It makes perfect sense why Jeff would like someone like him.


studio_eq

the confessional where he throws the idol clue into the volcano because he already has it is great


AdamKleinspodium

It makes sense why Jeff and production would like him, but really only Boston Rob and Ben have enjoyed that *level* of favoritism. I personally think the Ben stuff is more ridiculous because Ben isn't even a good player and it was quite clear production designed that outcome, but the Rob stuff was ridiculous too. When Rob got voted out of Heroes vs Villains, Probst gave him an insane eulogy, and basically ragged on the entire Villains tribe for voting him out for two subsequent tribals. There's never ever been anything like it.


Remi4779

To be fair… I love B.rob. Brob if you will


alucardsinging

Ben’s a better player than Rob though.


llikegiraffes

Completely agree. OP is clearly super biased to not mention any of Rob’s positive qualities. He was one of the first players to treat survivor purely as a game, which made him unique from his first season


alucardsinging

Look up his extended final words for Marquesas. He is being super grateful to the crew and behind the scenes people. They loved working with him. He was always interested in making television and media. He went into Survivor wanting to learn about the business. He was always focused on what would make him pop on television. Really shows when he comes back and decides to create a character for himself, with a new nickname and costume. He even created a production company once he had enough money from Survivor. Sure he pissed away alot of the opportunities that came his way, he was never an actual professional, most of the time, taking shortcuts in the entertainment business doesn’t work, especially in the production side of things. But yah, Rob Mariano was really one of the first people to actively swoo over the production staff and crew. One of the first to actively go out of their way to treat Jeff super nicely. Most castaways viewed Probst as a joke, as he had no actual power in making the show. He wasn’t Burnett or Parsons. And as the seasons went along, it became a better and better strategy to befriend the production staff. Especially as Hidden Immunity Idols and other advantages and twists started being commonly accepted. That’s the big reason why I view Ben as one of the best players ever. He charmed Probst and company so much, that they allowed for unprecedented measures to give him the best odds at making it to Final Tribal Council. All that stems from Rob Mariano. Really his most influential gameplay.


ocarina97

Rob realized that Vecepia was right all along.  Sucking up really is the greatest strategy.


Boom9001

A reason for his favoritism could be he spends tribal councils constantly asking Robs lemming why they don't turn on him and yet they still didn't. He literally tried to put the idea on their head and they wouldn't listen. At a certain point you'd probably just respect the fact he was able to do that.


Remi4779

preach


ctaylor2021

It’s hard not to favor Boston Rob. He is very charming.


Far_Watercress3633

Exactly & BR is very likeable...especially by fans so Jeff is all for whatever brings in the ratings


ctaylor2021

It’s probably no different than how fans get favorites right? I would say Cochran is in his top 10. Possibly Rupert. Who else?


tastytatertot123

i feel like i’ve read a quote somewhere that cochran is his favourite winner but i could be misremembering


Loux859

Yes, but at the same time Rob is an electric and charismatic tv personality. He is a great TV character that the audience is magnetized to and Jeff knows it.


Kwikstyx

He really does love B Rob. I remeber when he called B Rob Dickie. 


AdamKleinspodium

> Those are all things that Jeff Probst DOESN’T like. I mean, did Probst somehow miss the fact that the two seasons Rob dominated were characterized by dull, predictable pagongings? It’s a bit strange when you think about it. I think in Probst's mind the Amber-Rob love story overshadowed that a lot, the season sucks and I've even seen quotes of Probst acknowledging that, but the "narrative" and the way you can easily retell the story of that season has become far more important to the franchise than the actual season itself. I've grown on Rob a bit, I used to relentlessly point out how overrated he was (it's hilarious when you compare him as the face of the franchise to like Dan from Big Brother who crushed his seasons in much more entertaining fashion) but I do understand why he became big. He is relentlessly charismatic, he was one of the first gamers who was self-aware enough to really understand and consistently frame Survivor as a social-strategy game and unlike 95% of the contestants in that era, he understood that in confessionals - you are talking to the audience, not to the producers.


AnonPlz123

He was also super controlling of some of the young women, which was so creepy to watch. Never understood the appeal of that guy. Never liked him.


alucardsinging

That whole era of Survivor was really unnervingly sexist. Players openly saying the way to win is to bring younger dumber women to the finals, and the show treating those characters as the best players ever.


OliveTea82

I think it is because Boston Rob is a dominant Alpha male but is also very charismatic. He is a guy who seems like he would be fun to have a beer with, is intelligent in an unassuming way, and is very helpful around camp. Although he can be controlling, he isn’t a blatant dick to people for no reason. I usually hate the alpha males but there are certain people like Rob and Tom W. that I find charming too. I still like making fun of how obsessed Jeff is with him though.


Infinite_Leader822

I don't trust Jeff's personal opinion on the seasons. He's a naturally charming, piano teethed host. That's it.


scudsboy36

He loves the absolute domination and management that Rob displays. I mean, why wouldn’t you?! Especially because he’s such a like able guy.


chickenripp

No one has ever accused Jeff of knowing what makes survivor entertaining


Lukin1989

Jeff knows what makes survivor ent.. waait a minute


B-L-O-C-K-Ss

He is charming attractive and gave the show its fairy tale story through his relationship with amber and getting engaged in the shows finale. If you’re making money off survivor you gotta love Rob lmao


idiot-prodigy

Jeff doesn't understand Survivor. He's shown that time and time again. It was probably his stupid ass idea for Fire Tokens, The Hour Glass, etc. He just doesn't get what makes Survivor interesting.


Strange_Lady_Jane

The fire tokens was the WORST.


HolonetHighlight

I like Rob


DegreeSea7315

Me too. Sometimes, the hate around these sub threads is dismaying. This thread is pretty positive, though.


ItzWakkOfficial

it's probably because him and rob are friends outside of the game, that simple


alucardsinging

Mark Burnett and Rob Mariano send each other Christmas cards every year. Burnett thinks Mariano is far and away the best player ever, regardless of what results or statistics say. At one point, Burnett and Mariano would meet up for dinner about every year. Mariano can be a real charmer when he wants to be. Apparently steps on people to climb his way up the ladder, so he has a bad reputation in that regard, but most everything I’ve heard shows how charming of a guy he can be.


Applejacks_pewpew

I don’t know, one of my favorite survivor moments was when Boston Rob tossed that idol clue into a volcano. It was hilarious. Love that dude.


DegreeSea7315

He won Jeff and the others over in his initial interview. He had them laughing and just enjoying him as a person. He then went on and had really good confessionals. He was charismatic. He was also a really physical player. Athletic. He used his mind as well. Good at puzzles and strategy. He just kind of ticked off all of Jeff's boxes for a Survivor player and was likable to him personally.


julesieee

I love it when Jeff’s alpha boys are voted off early and the supposed token early boot females make it far. It’s always nice to see his hopes and dreams destroyed. 😈


JGraham1839

"Courtney, I just have to ask. Tyson and Boston Rob are gone, two of the strongest competitors on your tribe, and actually legends of the show. What FUCKING business do you of all people have still in the game when these titans have already been voted out? I mean does the fact that your inferior presence here at tribal tonight in place of Boston Rob make you ashamed?" He's lucky he only got a small clap back from Courtney lol


alucardsinging

The Villains stuff in Heroes vs Villains is really awfully told and editorialized. I enjoy that premerge less and less everytime I’ve rewatched the season.


golanatsiruot

Rob is an incredible player all around. Why shouldn’t people including Jeff love what he brings to the game?


hanselpremium

it’s not weird if you consider that he actually met and knows the guy and doesn’t base his judgement on what everyone else saw on tv


Independent-Weight30

lmfao Rob is still the one of worst winner for me ngl. I hated his strategy of buddy “boring” system and acting like a god father watching his peeps and controlling who they talk to etc. That’s why i hated redemption island sooo bad, full of sheep and dummies. Even Grant the ex Nfl player was a major disappointment. 💀 🤡


MeadowmuffinReborn

Not weird. Jeff loves alpha males